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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 139
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Batman Mystery [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Batman (almost) Begins [ Wich2@[removed] ]
fred allen /portland hoffa [ <cooldown3@[removed]; ]
Re: Batman on Radio [ "Michael J. Laurino" <mlaurino@[removed] ]
Orson Welles' Self-Prophecy [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
Re: Copyright Information [ LBohall@[removed] ]
WTIC's Golden Age of Radio [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
brick mush? [ "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed]; ]
Re: LOC et Copyright [ Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@rocketmai ]
re: Batman on radio [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
Re: Donor Restrictions [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Re: Holy Bat-Radio! [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
Belated [removed] [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
Arch Oboler show [ Illoman <illoman@[removed]; ]
Re: Bellingham, Wa and the AMRE [ "[removed]" <donsplace@[removed]; ]
5-5 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:55:45 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Batman Mystery
John Mayer commented:
But I have on this very computer an episode of _The Batman Mystery Club_.
Bruce Wayne, who divulges his Secret Identity to his trusted club members,
tells us that this is their 103rd meeting; I assume that translates into at
least that many episodes. The tag on this particular show says it was
broadcast on Septemeber 5, 1950, just a little over a week short of my fifth
birthday. Batman and Robin both appear in action in the story.
What you have John is an audition recording for a proposed series. There
were a few attepts to give BATMAN his own regular radio series (other than
co-starring alongside Superman on the SUPERMAN radio program). The Batman
Mystery Club was recorded in September 1950, but to date, no one has found
any proof that it was ever broadcast on radio. It's the only episode of the
series ever made. As for the comment that it was their 103rd meeting . . .
many audition shows avoided the trap of saying that it was the first episode
of the series. The idea of an audition is to give potential networks and
sponsors the opportunity to get an idea of what a regular episode was like
so producers often worked it into the script to give it the appearance that
it was just a usual regular episode. There was not 103 recordings, only one
ever made.
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:57:42 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Batman (almost) Begins
Dear Lloyd, John, & Batfans-
As Anthony cracks his knuckles & begins to type, I [removed]
' "Batman Mystery Club 50-09-05 Monster Of Dumphreys [removed]" seems to
have
been a pilot which was never aired. '
It is, indeed. And while [removed], it is pretty lacking in real Bat-Action.
'My problem is with two other episodes listed by a hobbyist.
"Disk 422 Batman - 014 The Lost Christmas [removed]
Disk 422 Batman - The Lazarus [removed]"
Ring any bells?'
Alas, yes. ALMOST sure (especially considering that The Lazarus Pit is the
main tool of a VERY latter-day villain, Ras Al Ghul, who is about to make a
big splash in the new film) that these two titles are from the 70's
children's
records. Decently produced, and fun to hear, if you're a fan; but in no way
OTR.
Bats Wishes,
-Craig
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:41:25 -0400
From: <cooldown3@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: fred allen /portland hoffa
Hi All,
I am a collector who wonders what the position of the Boston Public Library
on it's Fred Allen collection in light of the bequest conditions of
Fred/Portland.
Is the library actively recruiting for a second tea party?
Cheers,
PAtrick
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:29:57 -0400
From: "Michael J. Laurino" <mlaurino@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Batman on Radio
Lloyd Harradan <lharradan@[removed]; notes:
My problem is with two other episodes listed by a hobbyist.
"Disk 422 Batman - 014 The Lost Christmas [removed]
Disk 422 Batman - The Lazarus [removed]"
Over the past fifteen or twenty years BBC radio has occasionally produced
dramas based on DC comics (Superman, Batman, Dredd). "The Lazarus
Syndrome" is one of these. I haven't seen the title before, but odds are
"The Lost Christmas Episode" is as well.
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:31:19 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Orson Welles' Self-Prophecy
Just listening to the streaming OTR at [removed] on
iTunes that "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed]; called to
our attention. An episode of Suspense dated '44/05/04, in which Orson
Welles portrays an actor, is playing. Just heard Orson say (as best I
can remember the line), "What? Give up drink?! Would you have me
subsist entirely on food and attain the gargantuan proportions of an
Orson Welles?" Both amusing and prescient. As i recall, Orson Welles
was of normal proportions in 1944.
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:53:20 -0400
From: LBohall@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Copyright Information
[ADMINISTRIVIA: "Public Domain" is clearly defined, and the LOC cannot
make
decisions on what is and is not properly covered by copyright, trademark,
or other protection. Let's not beat up on the LOC when the real fault is
Congress and it's never-ending copyright protection. --cfs3]
As an author, I have to say I appreciate what the Congress has done. Under
the old laws, my works would be in the public domain very [removed] I've
made precious little royalties on a novel that took me years to create as it
is. People like JRR Tolkein had to spend a fortune trying to protect their
works from people who issued unapproved editions with no royalties attached
to them. With the new Copyright laws that is much harder to do [removed]
Larry
My new novel, Martyr's Cry: a mystery for hopeless romantics, is available
now! Go to [removed] for more [removed]
[ADMINISTRIVIA: For a more balanced view (from someone owning more valid
copyrights than most of his detractors) of why constantly-lengthening
copyright terms are a disaster to our society at large, please see Lawrence
Lessig's blog at [removed] - and while you're there,
download and read the book, "Free Culture" which is available legally for ALL
under a Creative Commons licence. Professor Lessig makes a very convincing
case that Congress is protecting the profits of a tiny few who will
inevitably control our entire culture, precisely the opposite of the intent
of the Constitution's authors. --cfs3]
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:30:11 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: WTIC's Golden Age of Radio
I received an e-mail from OTR collector Dave Siegel
a couple of weeks ago. Dave had been examining the
list of Golden Age programs on our website
[removed]
and discovered that he had two shows in his collection
that weren't on our list.
Dick Bertel, originator and host of the series, immediately
contacted him and learned that he had copies of a "Hans
Conreid" interview and a "Tony Marvin" interview. We
knew that we were missing several shows, but because
there was never a master list we couldn't remember
which ones.
Dave very kindly sent both shows to us, but when he
listened to them while dubbing them he realized they were
of rather poor quality.
We worked on them, first by EQing the original tapes and
then by using computer software to improve them still more.
Hans Conreid is now of broadcast quality and will be heard
in rotation on our website.
Tony Marvin, unfortunately, was in worse shape but it is now
fully understandable and may be used for reference purposes
at the very least.
If anyone else has copies of the Golden Age of Radio please
let Dick or me know. We are looking, first of all, for a better
quality copy of Tony Marvin. We would also like to find a copy
of "Vincent Price" and "Joan Fontaine" which we remember
doing. Anything else not listed on the website would also be
greatly appreciated.
--
Bob Scherago
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:19:29 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: brick mush?
Several Vic and Sade episodes contain references to a brick-mush man who
delivers brick-mush. What the heck is brick-mush? Is it a real substance, or
something out of Dismal Seepage, Ohio?
Doug Leary
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:09:01 -0400
From: Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: LOC et Copyright
Anyone know how the LOC feels about copy machines and
copying pages froma book?
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:09:41 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: Batman on radio
"Lloyd Harradan" <lharradan@[removed]; wrote:
My problem is with two other episodes listed by a hobbyist.
"Disk 422 Batman - 014 The Lost Christmas [removed]
Disk 422 Batman - The Lazarus [removed]"
Ring any bells?
I suspect "The Lost Christmas Episode" is the 1970s Power Records story
"Batman: The Christmas Carol Caper." Have you listened to your copy? Is
it so campy your teeth hurt? Then it's definitely the Power Records LP
version. They turned out dozens of albums in the 70s based on DC and
Marvel comics characters, as well as tv shows such as Star Trek. I had
several of these as a kid. The few I've heard since then are in the "so
bad they're good" category--outrageously campy fun.
I believe there was also a BBC broadcast in the 90s based on the
Knightfall story (the story in which Batman had his back broken and was
briefly replaced by another guy--remember that? This was right after
Superman was killed. Needless to say, both Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent
subsequently resumed their rightful places.)
Kermyt
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:10:14 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Donor Restrictions
On 5/4/05 12:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I agree with Ellsworth Johnson that shows that are past the copyright
deadlines should be released to the public by the Library of Congress. I
also think that these shows should be more readily available to the public
without so much red tape and such huge fees.
Unfortunately, it's not simply a matter of copyright. The restrictions on
the availablity of materials held by the Library are not based on
copyright so much as they are on the wishes of the donors of the
materials.
In most cases, the donors have chosen to deposit materials at the LOC
specifically because they *do not want them distributed,* and they
especially don't want them going onto the commercial market. In some
cases this may be because of copyright issues, but more often other
concerns are also involved, such as contractural requirements with
producers, writers, musicians, unions, sponsors, agencies, and other such
parties. One can argue all they want that sixty or seventy year old
contracts ought to be meaningless today, but the corporate world doesn't
work that way. As long as there are lawyers involved, such restrictions
will exist, and will continute to exist no matter how the copyright
situation evolves.
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:41:27 -0400
From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Holy Bat-Radio!
"Lloyd Harradan" <lharradan@[removed]; recently noted that:
My problem is with two other episodes listed by a hobbyist.
"Disk 422 Batman - 014 The Lost Christmas [removed]"
A track from one of Los Angeles alternative-rock radio station KROQ's annual
"Kevin & Bean" Christmas albums -- in this case, the 2000 release ("The Real
Slim Santa"). Features Adam West.
"Disk 422 Batman - The Lazarus [removed]"
A BBC production celebrating the character's 50th anniversary (a sequel of
sorts to the 50th anniversary "Superman On Trial" -- only, one hopes, with
actual American actors in the American parts, rather than the awful
Brits-not-really-trying-very-hard-to-emulate-American-accents of the Supes
programme).
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:19:22 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Belated [removed]
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I'm several issues behind w/ these Digests and would like to take this
opportunity for all
the folks who've answered the recent batch of questiones I've posted:
a) OTR [removed] to everybody who weighed in on helping me devise
OTR-themed
names for all the tricks & suits employed in the game of poker--with
shout-outs going out
to Kenneth Clarke & esp'ly the recent Agatha Award winning author Jack French.
"Private
Eyelahes" is available from Ben Ohmart's Bear Manor Media which can be
accessed
at [removed] . Since certain other OTR authors who post here feel
"full
disclosure" is the order of the day, my name appears in Jack's
acknowledgments.
b) Officer Joe [removed] to everybody partic'ly Joe Webb, Jim Burns and
that "dam
yankee in VA" Lee Munsick who expanded upon this subject both off- & on-list
in helping me
connect one of my childhood TV idols with his OTR announcing credits. It's a
shame Jim Burns
& I keep missing each other at the "Billy Rose."
c) radio call letters & whether WOTW is a viable station [removed] I'd esp'ly
like to thankagain Lee
Munsick, & (our man at at VOA) Art Chimes who provided a link which lists US
radio call letters, which
is at [removed]. Gracias!
d) Clarence [removed]' "Vic 'n' Sade" is one of my favourites, I did
not start
or add to the recent thread about Mr. Hartzell. I was pleased to learn that he
was born on 10-26-1910.
October 26th happens to be my birthday, & learning that I share it w/ Uncle
Fletcher more than makes
up for the disappointment I felt when I learned that VnS creator/writer Paul
Rhymer DIED on
my second birthday.
e) Disco & [removed] author & historian Ron Lackmann confirmed for me off-list
that he, indeed,
was the author Ronald W. Lackmann who wrote the young adult book "Disco!
Disco! Disco!,"
one of many of-the-era books about the disco phenomenon currently on display
at the NYPL/
Perf. Arts at Lincoln Center's "Disco!" exhibit. Again, I thank my new pal Jim
Burns for F/W-ing
to the Digest the disco/OTR punny song titles I sent him off-list. How they
ever got posted is
beyond me as I warned him that Charlie was going to think such was way too
off-topic.
f) Cincinnati OTR [removed] a personal note, it was great seeing all my
friends at the Cincy OTR
convention last month! I'd esp'ly would like to acknowledge all the kindness
and empathy many OTR fans
extended me after I sustained an injury in the hotel's lobby thanks to some
ripped-up marble floor
titling, an unevenness in the flooring, and the hotel's lack of yellow
warning barricade tape to
point out this treacherous condition. My right knee and shin got pretty
banged up w/
abrasions and contusions, but fortunately it's been healing up OK in the
intervening weeks,
there was no permanent damage, and I didn't require a trip to the emergency
room. There's
way too many people to thank in person on this front as I count myself blessed
that I have many
friends in this wonderful OTR hobby, but I would like to thank the show's
organisers Bob Burchett
and Robert Newman, and my roommate Ken Piletic, who immediately took
time-stamped
digital photos of a hotel worker putting up the barricade tape ex post facto
as well as photos of
some nasty bruises in the event litigation needed to be pursued.
Thanks from the ether! Happy Birthday, Will "Sugarfoot" Hutchins! (05-05)
Derek Tague
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:19:45 -0400
From: Illoman <illoman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Arch Oboler show
I have been having difficulty finding an episode of Arch Oboler's Plays
entitled "Lust for Life". The broadcast date was 8/16/45. Does anyone
know where I can get a copy of this?
Thanks,
Mike
--
[removed]~illoman
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:58:51 -0400
From: "[removed]" <donsplace@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Bellingham, Wa and the AMRE
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I'm not sure whether the curators are on the Digest, but I know that
a few of the volunteers are.
And on an OTR note, the museum as a corner set up as a living room/
library complete with a floor model radio playing OTR. The museum
also operates a low-power radio station with big band and OTR
programming and hosts an audio drama group.
Sadly, my schedule doesn't permit me to participate, but it is by far
the best museum of any kind that I've visited. The staff and
volunteers are very knowedgable and helpful, and the exhibits are
fascinating.
[removed]
"You only need two things for repairs - WD-40 and duct tape. If it
should move and doesn't, WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, duct
tape."
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Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:09:56 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 5-5 births/deaths
May 5th births
05-05-1890 - Christopher Morley - Haverford, PA - d. 3-28-1957
author: "Information Please"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Studio One"
05-05-1899 - Freeman F. Gosden - Richmond, VA - d. 12-10-1982
comedian: "Sam 'n' Henry"; Amos Jones "Amos 'n' Andy"
05-05-1912 - Alice Faye - NYC - d. 5-9-1998
singer, actress: "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
05-05-1912 - Bret Morrison - Chicago, IL - d. 9-25-1978
actor: Lamont Cranston/Shadow "The Shadow"; Bruce Wayne/Batman "Advs. of
Superman"
05-05-1914 - Tyrone Power - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-15-1958
actor: Dean Edwards "Freedom [removed]"
05-05-1915 - Ben Wright - London, England - d. 7-2-1989
actor: Hey Boy "Have Gun, Will Travel"; Nicholas Lacey "One Man's Family"
05-05-1919 - George London - Montreal, Canada - d. 3-23-1985
singer: "The Voice of Firestone"
05-05-1927 - Jim Lowe - Springfield, MO
disc jockey, host: (King of Trivia) WNEW New York
05-05-1927 - Pat Carroll - Shrevport, LA
actress: "We Hold These Truths"; "Fifty Years After Fourteen August"
05-05-19xx - Ted Brown - d. 3-20-2005
announcer: "Magic Carpet"; "Hobby Lobby"; "Scout About Town"
May 5th deaths
03-31-1896 - Eddie Dunn - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-5-1951
quizmaster: "True or False"
07-16-1925 - Cal Tjader - St. Louis, MO - d. 5-5-1982
jazz vibrophonist: "Music for Moderns"; ""Ass-Star Parade of Bands"
09-04-1891 - Sam Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-5-1977
bandleader: "Ipana Troubadors"; "Benrus Ticksters"
09-29-1898 - Doris Hursley - WI - d. 5-5-1984
writer: "American Women"; "Cousin Willie"; "Those Websters"; "The Truitts"
10-04-1916 - George Sidney - Long Island City, NY - d. 5-5-2002
film musical director: "Shell Chateau"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-04-1916 - Lenore Kingston - Los Angeles, CA - d. 5-5-1993
actress: Mercedes Colby "Don Winslow of the Navy"; Jane Daley "Affairs of
Anthony"
12-20-1905 - Albert Dekker - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-5-1968
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
xx-xx-1913 - Jim McClain - d. 5-5-2004
host: Dr. [removed] "Dr. [removed]"; Dr. [removed] "Dr. [removed] Jr."
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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