Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #311
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Date: 8/11/2002 9:03 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 311
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Yankee Broadcasts/Ben Chapman         [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  Re: Robert Hall Clothing Jingle       [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  Re: Bob Hope                          [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  CBSRMT and Himan Brown                [ Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed]; ]
  French-Canadian OTR                   [ "Roger Robineau" <Robineau2@cogeco. ]
  FOTR convention                       [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  show biz scoundels                    [ ClifSr@[removed] ]
  Les Paul the man and the guitar       [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
  Seeking videos Arthur Godfrey on TV   [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
  Dick Powell                           [ "[removed] George" <yourstruly@[removed]; ]
  Re: Arthur Godfrey an ***.?           [ gad4@[removed] ]
  The personal side of celebrity        [ "Nik Kierniesky" <kierniesky@superp ]
  FOTR Housing                          [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
  "Mr. President"                       [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
  Re:Lee Munsick and Arthur Godfrey     [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
  The Adventures of Marcelle            [ Osborneam@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:44:32 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Yankee Broadcasts/Ben Chapman

Elizabeth writes:
Powell commented that he was looking forward to his off-season job as a
police
officer, because it gave him a chance to keep in shape by "cracking
[extreme racial slur] in the head and throwing them in jail." After the
broadcast generated national outrage in the African-American press, the
Commissioner's office suspended Powell without pay for ten days, and
required him to spend the period of his suspension walking the streets of
Harlem, introducing himself to passersby, and apologizing for his remark.)

Curious:
What did Powell's suspension cost him, in today's dollars?
What would be the financial effect of the loss of ten days' pay on today's
players?
Would the Commissioner dare to humiliate a modern baseball champion by
subjecting him to something like the second part of Powell's punishment?

Herb Harrison

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:44:50 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Robert Hall Clothing Jingle

I don't remember the jingle, but I remember the [removed]
My older brother (since deceased) sent us the money to buy my high school
graduation suit. We went to the Robert Hall store in McKeesport, PA, where
I selected a nice black suit, with a white shirt. I wore that suit for years.
Whatever happened to the 'Robert Hall' company?
Did they go bust; just quit; or were they bought out?

Herb Harrison

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:51:08 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Bob Hope

Hi Jer:

I appreciate your sentiments.

You know old bob is in no position to defend himself from public attacks and
opinions and somehow there is something wrong, imo, to cut the man up with a
negative opinion of him. He is an american institution whether you like him
or not and has served this country well in times of great need.

But I believe I prefaced my posting with that fact.

Snip< I do think such opinions should not be made public as they are just
that,
opinions.

Well, Jer, it looks as if I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. It
seems like I have a decision to make. I can either post to the Digest as
another OTR fan, which I was. (I received many hours of pleasure from the
medium as a kid growing up during radio's Golden Age). And I did think Hope
was funny. (He had good writers and style of delivery). I suppose I could
just limit "my opinions" to my likes and dislikes about certain shows, and
performers, and not relate personal experiences connected with them.

But on the other hand, there are many members on the digest who seem to want
to hear what it was like from someone who was on the inside back then.

I can be just as quick to extol the virtues of many of the people I knew and
worked with. For example, someone asked about just [removed] Wanting to know
"who the good guys were". Someone mentioned Edward G. Robinson. (I also
worked with him), and he was one of the nicest people you would ever want to
meet. As were James Garner, Pat O'Brian, Lanny Ross, Betty White, Bud
Collier, Vinton Hayworth, Ed Begley, Art Carney, Ross martin, and a host  of
other "celebrities". The list is endless.

I don't deal in dishing out "Dirt". I simply relate experiences and try to
help people "flesh out" some of these OTR celebrities, and give a personal
glimpse into their character, professionalism, as well as their off stage
demeanor.

Fortunately, the vast majority were highly professional, and a distinct
honor and pleasure for me to have worked with them.

But then, I hear the words of my mother ringing in my ears. "If you can't
say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all". In the future,
maybe I'll just limit my posting to the saccharin stuff.

Sorry my posting aroused your ire. Does that mean you won't be buying my
book when it comes out? :)  Can we declare a truce?

Regards, (sincerely)

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:42:32 -0400
From: Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CBSRMT and Himan Brown

While strictly speaking, many would dispute that the Radio Mystery Theater
is OTR, but I know it is popular listening among many oldtime radio
enthusiasts, and as such, I'm hopeful someone will be able to supply
information on the series.

I'm trying to determine (1) how many episodes and which ones were hosted by
Himan Brown and (2) reaired by NPR beginning in 1998. I've seen logs which
are limited to 1998 and others that reach beyond that time frame.  I have a
"log" that rested on Bob Cook's website a couple of years ago, but don't
know if was a work in progress at the time his site closed or if I'm to view
it as complete.  An accurate log of the reaired episodes would be most
helpful.

Thanks to all who respond.

Ron Vanover
vanoverr@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:51:27 -0400
From: "Roger Robineau" <Robineau2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  French-Canadian OTR

I have a small collection of Canadian Old time radio (CBC).  This may
not be the correct forum, however, I must ask.

I am French-Canadian.  I know for a fact that there was French-Canadian
OTR on the radio in the early 40's.  Whether anyone was taping these is
another matter!

My question is simply does anyone have any tid-bits of French Canadian
OTR available for trading.

The one show that I know was on the radio was based on a book called "Un
home et son Peche" ( a man and his sin).  It was called "Les Belles
Histoires des Pays D'en Haut", and was on radio into the 50's and on
television into the early 70's.

I would appreciate any insight anyone would have on this topic.

Thank You and Merci

Roger Robineau

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:22:22 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR convention

Registration has started for the 27th Friends of Old-time Radio Convention.
All details are at our web site, taken care of by Charlie Summers.

FOTR Web site:  [removed]  (all lower case)

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:10:12 -0400
From: ClifSr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  show biz scoundels

May I offer a more specifically radio-related slant on the current thread 
about performers who are God's gift to show biz on stage or air while being 
accused of acting like the devil incarnate when the show is over.  . As a 
sheltered kid visiting my favorite morning radio stars in Detroit many moons 
ago,  I was shocked to hear them swear a blue streak as soon as the mic was 
off.  Now, having made a living in small town radio for almost 50 years (hey, 
in one very good year I made a whopping twenty-one grand)  I must say that 
radio was the perfect medium for us very human types  who want to be adored 
by the audience  even if we are  jerks in person. It doesn't matter how funny 
looking you are or how much different you look from  they way you sound.  You 
can schmooze those listeners 'til they drool,  turn that mic off and while 
the records are playing you can drink coffee (or something stronger) or smoke 
cigarettes  (or something stronger.) You can chase the secretary around the 
desk, talk to lonely women on the phone, watch your wife barge into  the 
control room, take off her ring and throw it at you, you can spit in the 
program director's eye and get fired on the spot. And  all the while, your 
fans out there in radioland are loving you. What a life! You say you want to 
know which of those things I did and which ones I  observed somebody else 
doing?   Never mind.  All I have to say is that it was a   fun ride and I'd 
do it again.  Where else can you make a living,  be loved  and still be a 
pain in the butt. (Or something stronger)

Clif Martin 

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:39:56 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Les Paul the man and the guitar

This is somewhat off topic, but please bear with me.  I have referred to
the TV commercial with Les Paul talking with a young guitarist who doesn't
know with whom he's speaking.  He loans Les his guitar, and Les takes off
with a mad riff.  The kid is awed and says, "Hey, what's your name?"  Les
smiles and points at the kid's instrument, and as he gets up, he says,
"It's on your guitar".

Now, my question is, does any Les Paul collector have a copy of that
commercial?  I'd love to get and pay for a copy on VHS or DVD.

Many thanks.  Lee Munsick

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:48:12 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Seeking videos Arthur Godfrey on TV

Through a helpful Internet friend, I've just been sent a listing of Arthur
Godfrey appearances on the following game shows.  I'm hoping someone out
there may have videos of these dates.  I'll gladly reimburse the cost of
copying to DVD or VHS, and shipping.  The shows are:

"What's My Line" -- 9/20/64 plus one prior I think, to 1952
"I've Got a Secret" -- 6 shows from 1958 through 1966 I have the dates.
	Also one from 1955-56 with Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt USAF,
	head of USF "Project Bluebook" investigating flying saucers.
	I think I am seen on that program.
"Password" -- Shows #69 and #83 from 1963, #155 (year?)
"Hollywood Squares" - Syndicated -- 1 from 1975, 5 from 1976

Also seeking Mr. Godfrey's appearance(s) on "The Love Boat"

Many, many thanks!

Gratefully, Lee Munsick	That Godfrey Guy

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:51:39 -0400
From: "[removed] George" <yourstruly@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Dick Powell

In the credits at the end of the Harold Peary Show the announcer
lists Dick Powell as one of the show's writers. Is this the same
Dick Powell the actor? There's no reference to Mr. Powell for Honest Harold
in Dunning's book "On the Air."

[removed]

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:03:22 -0400
From: gad4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Arthur Godfrey an ***.?

Without knowing too much of Arthur as a person, many years ago as a child, I
heard a candid mike type recording of him on the radio. I think it was on
Max Schmid's program but Im not sure. At any rate, on the show I heard the
unacted Arthur, and it was the the most disgusting and filthy thing I ever
heard in my life.  I didnt listen to that very long.

While I guess I can appreciate the entertainment of Arthur, that incident
has painted him to me as someone I could never respect as a person and it
soured my opinion of him.

Sincerely,

George

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:16:19 -0400
From: "Nik Kierniesky" <kierniesky@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The personal side of celebrity

    I've been a member of this discussion group since near its inception,
although
not a frequent contributor.  The personal lives of celebrities came up very
early,
specifically Bing Crosby's behavior with his first crop of children.  I
remember some
list members getting upset with the discussion.
     IMO, the discussion of the behavior of celebrities off mike and camera
is important,
as long as it is based on good evidence (as is Hal Stone's). The reason is
that sometimes
we have to be reminded that these people are just human beings. We should
not reify
a performer into a godly or saintly image (Bing Crosby,Elvis Presley, maybe
Bob Hope) NOR should we hate
a celebrity's talent because of a personal life (Woody Allen comes to mind).
By virtue of their celebrity, public
knowledge of off mike/camera behavior is held to a different standard, than
those without celebrity.
We are interested in these people because they are celebrities.
     I never liked Bob Hope's humor compared to many other classic funny
men.  But that had nothing
to do with his personal behavior.  However, his personal behavior off
mike/camera as revealed by Hal
Stone, Authur Marx, and others, give me a sense of the man and how he got on
in life.

Nik Kierniesky
Gettysburg

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:16:49 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR Housing

I'm considering attending the Friends of Old-Time Radio convention in Newark
in October and would like to find another woman who is willing to share a
hotel room (& split the cost of course!)(Airfare alone is pretty pricey.
This is probably the only time I'm envious of anyone who lives close to
Newark!).

It's hard to find other women who attend alone!!!

If you are interested (and are a woman), contact me offlist.  Inquiries from
gentlemen will be kindly ignored. :P

Thanks,
Arlene Osborne

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:18:01 -0400
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Mr. President"

Just a quick note to let everyone know that the First Generation Radio
Archives has just released a new 10-CD set of "Mr. President" shows
starring Edward Arnold. All of the programs have been taken directly from
16" ABC network lacquer transcriptions, originally owned by writer Jean
Holloway. Twenty of the twenty-one broadcasts in this collection are
uncirculated and have not been heard since their original broadcast over
fifty years ago.

For more details on this and other programs available through the Archives,
I invite you to visit our website and request a free subscription to our
newsletter. Your continuing support makes our preservation and restoration
efforts possible.

Thanks!

Harlan

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:18:08 -0400
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:Lee Munsick and Arthur Godfrey

I was wondering if Lee Munsick ever met or worked with Mr. Godfrey?

Eric Cooper

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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:16:41 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Adventures of Marcelle

I'm listening to a show called "The Adventures of Marcelle" starring
Charles Boyer.  I decided to look it up in Jay Hickerson's wonderful
book of circulating shows and can't find it!!

Can anyone tell me more about this show?  Was it a series?

Arlene Osborne

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