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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 320
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Live vs. recorded music [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
11-17 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
Live OTR Recreation in Metuchen, NJ, [ "Michael Ratcliffe" <firerat22@veri ]
Artie Shaw [ Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed]; ]
shows for sleep land [ "Scott Livingston" <sdl@gosfgiants. ]
OTR on MP3's [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
Shows For Seapland [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
Nightbeat [ "Charles Salt" <charles_salt@hotmai ]
Metropolitan [removed] [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Recreations of OTR [ "Frank McGurn Jr." <[removed]@sbcg ]
Hermit's Cave scripts [ William Shishko <wshishko@[removed]; ]
Regis Radio Corporation [ William Harker <wharker@[removed] ]
Ths passing of OTR scriptwriters [ absarka_prime@[removed] ]
The Big Broadcast of 44 [ dm4yeshua@[removed] ]
An answer to Stuart Lubin [ Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed]; ]
unlikely trademarks [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:19:33 -0500
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Live vs. recorded music
I have heard (most likely on this digest) that in the heyday of radio,
recorded music was not permitted. The musician's union, for one, insisted
that all music be live.
Yet, in listening to that full day broadcast recording from the station in
Washington, DC, Arthur Godfrey is there on the morning show spinning
records.
Does anyone know just what the situation was regarding music? Was it only
under certain situations that music had to be live?
Ted
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:19:43 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 11-17 births/deaths
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November 17th births
11-17-1878 - Grace Abbott - d. 7-19-1939
talks for mothers: "Your Child"
11-17-1897 - Frank Fay - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-25-1961
actor: "Jack Oakie's College"; "Rudy Vallee Show"
11-17-1898 - "Quin" Ryan - d. 10-xx-1978
announcer, actor: "Quin Ryan Reports"; "Uncle Quin"; "Uncle Quin's
Scalawags"
11-17-1901 - Ted Husing - The Bronx, NY - d. 8-10-1962
announcer, sportscaster: "Sportslants"; "March of Time"; "Radio
Reader's Digest"
11-17-1905 - Josef Marais - Sir Lowey's Pass, South Africa - d.
4-26-1978
singer: "African Trek/Sundown on the Veld"; "Meredith Willson Show"
11-17-1905 - Mischa Auer - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 3-5-1967
actor: "Mischa the Magnificent"
11-17-1907 - L. Sprague de Camp - NYC - d. 11-6-2000
science fiction writer: "X-Minus One"; "Future Tense"
11-17-1911 - Jack Lescoulie - Sacramento, CA - d. 7-22-1987
announcer, emcee: "Grouch Club"; "Meet the Champions"
11-17-1916 - Frank Maxwell - The Bronx, NY - d. 8-5-2004
actor: Uthas P. Garvey "Colonel Humphrey Slack"
11-17-1917 - Byron Keith - Illinois - d. 1-19-1996
Started his career in radio in Boise, Idaho in the 1930s
11-17-1918 - Paul Crabtree - Pulaski, VA - d. 3-9-1979
actor: David Naughton "Claudia and David"
11-17-1925 - Rock Hudson - Winnetka, IL - d. 10-2-1985
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-17-1937 - Peter Cook - Devonshire, England - d. 1-9-1995
satirist, writer, comedian: "Why Bother"
November 17th deaths
02-01-1894 - James P. Johnson - New Brunswick, NJ - d. 11-17-1955
pianist: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"; "This is Jazz"
04-14-1916 - Emerson Buckley - NYC - d. 11-17-1989
conductor: "Two Thousand Plus"; "Murder By Experts"
06-01-1887 - Clive Brook - London, England - d. 11-17-1974
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"
06-15-1861 - Ernestine Schumann-Heink - Prague, Czechoslovkia - d.
11-17-1936
singer: "Enna Jettick Melodies"; "Hoover Sentinels Serenade"
06-19-1909 - Maurice Zimm - Waterloo, IA - d. 11-17-2005
writer: "The Man Who Sang"
06-19-1912 - Jerry Jerome - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-17-2001
musician: "Eileen Barton Show"; "Mirth and Madness"
07-24-1916 - Bob Eberly - Mechanicsville, NY - d. 11-17-1981
singer: (Jimmy Dorsey Band)
08-19-1903 - Claude Dauphin - Corbeil, France - d. 11-17-1978
actor: "As Easy as [removed]"
09-15-1904 - Sheilah Graham - London, England - d. 11-17-1988
gossip columnist: Intermission Guest :Lux Radio Theatre"
10-05-1903 - Jimmy Ritz - Newark, NJ - d. 11-17-1985
comedian: (The Ritz Brothers) "Hollywood Hotel"
11-22-1895 - Alexander Laszlo - Budapest, Hungary - d. 11-17-1970
orchestra leader: "This Is Your Life"
11-24-1900 - Ireene Wicker - Quincy, IL - d. 11-17-1987
actor: (The Singing Lady) Sylvia Bertram "Road of Life"; Eileen Moran
"Today's Children"
11-26-1913 - Bill Baldwin - Pueblo, CO - d. 11-17-1982
announcer: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"; "Mario Lanza Show"
12-18-1888 - Gladys Cooper - Lewisham, England - d. 11-17-1971
actor: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
Ron Sayles
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:25:20 -0500
From: "Michael Ratcliffe" <firerat22@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Live OTR Recreation in Metuchen, NJ, on 11/20
If this has already been mentioned on the list, I apologize. But I didn't
see it, so I thought I'd pass it along. The following is from Tuesday's
edition of the Home News Tribune in New Jersey.
Old-time radio presentation
Home News Tribune Online 11/14/06
METUCHEN - THE PUBLIC LIBRARY will present a lecture by Henry Morse,
the Old Time Radio Man, titled "The Art of Radio Drama" on Nov. 20 at 2 [removed]
The lecture will be presented in the library's Community Room.
Admission is free.
The program will highlight the conception, creation and performance
of drama on radio. Morse will feature some of the many techniques used to
create a thrilling experience for the listener highlighting writing and
sound effects with some clips to demonstrate the effects.
The lecture will conclude with a complete recreation of "Sorry,
Wrong Number," as originally performed by Agnes Moorhead.
For more information, contact John McBride, (732) 632-8526,
adult-services librarian at the Metuchen Public Library.
Staff report
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:47:20 -0500
From: Pete <pappleyard_ca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Artie Shaw
Some years ago CBC Radio ran a series of shows on the
life and times of Artie Shaw. I listened to it and if
I remember right it was called The Mystery Of Artie
Shaw. Now if that is not right remember this old guy
is pushing 75 and sometimes its hard to remember where
that room is down the hall :-))
Does anyone have a copy of the shows that they might
be willing to sell?? or does anyone have any idea of
where a guy might start looking for a copy of it. I
remember enjoying it at the time it was broadcast, why
I did not record it I cant remember.
Please get in touch with me at pappleyard_ca@[removed]
Thanks so much
Pete
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:19:53 -0500
From: "Scott Livingston" <sdl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: shows for sleep land
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John Evans asked about shows to go to sleep by. I personally fall asleep
every night to Fibber McGee and Molly. I have them loaded on my Rio 500 and
drift of to them with earbuds in my ears at night. Some nights I will wake up
and catch a show or part of one halfway through the night but if not it plays
through to the end and shuts off. I have listened to these great shows for a
dozen or more years and know them all so never worry about missing something
by falling asleep while they play. Once I have run through all on my Rio, I
dump them and load up an new 9 or 10 and start again. My wife knows that once
she hears the click of my Rio in bed at night, the conversation is over and
she rolls over and lets me enjoy my favorite hobby - OTR and Fibber McGee and
Molly!
Scott
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:40:58 -0500
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR on MP3's
MP3's have changed the way we hear OTR shows for a lot of us. They have
made it easier to build up collections with some of these MP3 CD's having
100 shows on 1 CD for prices as low as $4 total including shipping if buying
from some dealers.
I have a world of respect for dealers who still sell cassettes only
knowing they probably have a large inventory of cassettes to sell so
understand their situation of having spent money on the blank tapes to
transfer shows to them and it isn't economically feasible for them to switch
to MP3's.
My question is how many readers of the Digest have expanded their
collections due to MP3's being available for lower prices.
In my situation I had only a handful of shows on cassettes but after
buying MP3's have bought over 16,000 shows in about 3 years. Without MP3's I
would probably have about 80 shows.
MP3's have made it easier for younger OTR fans to buy the shows and to buy
a greater variety of shows instead of just buying the better known shows.
Andrew Godfrey
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:41:13 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Shows For Seapland
John Evans asked which shows would be best for listening in bed, "shows
which allow you to drift
easily into dreamland."
When I was in grade school, I listened to Inner Sanctum Mysteries
surreptitiously after my bedtime. Worked for me, and I loved the
creaking door, as well as Raymond, the host.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:41:23 -0500
From: "Charles Salt" <charles_salt@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Nightbeat
Nightbeat:
Thanks very much Chris for clearing up the Nightbeat issue and thanks to all
the others who have helped me try to locate this show. It will be good to be
able to inform my friends that it was a Radio City Playhouse Christmas show
and not Nightbeat.
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:41:35 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Metropolitan [removed]
As a kid and young man and later, I sometimes tuned in on the Metropolitan
Opera broadcasts. I freely admit that I really didn't like opera, and I
still don't like opera. But I listened anyway. My favorite part of those
broadcasts was hearing Milton Cross describe the events that would be coming
in the next act! He even made some of those ridiculous opera plots seem
believable. The intermission features were good, too: Opera Quiz,
interviews of the stars in the Green Room, etc. Milton Cross and Ben Grauer
had a way of turning the Met and the NBC symphony broadcasts into events of
great moment! "The Maestro steps to the podium, raises his baton, and in a
moment we will hear the opening chords of Beethoven's 'Eroica' [removed]"
Maybe the Met is still good, minus Milton Cross. Unfortunately, South
Dakota listeners are denied that program. Our public radio network has
chosen not to bring it to us. They seem to think that all we need are
Garrison Keillor, some taped concerts, and djs playing classical music --
and lots of talk shows.
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
[removed]~stmarkch/
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:05:28 -0500
From: "Frank McGurn Jr." <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Recreations of OTR
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I guess I stared something and maybe I am being miss understood on my view
point of otr recreations.
1. The recreations around the Chicago Area are non-profession radio actors,
maybe the are in theatrical groups, I don't know.
2. The recreations I've seen and heard are very good, but "I'" don't
really enjoy them as much as listening to the real thing.
3. The actors do a really good job of recreating, but, as example, I know
Jack Benny's voice and his famous "WELL", The person doing Jack just doesn't
sound the like Jack.
4. Maybe the west coast has many of the real radio actor around doing
recreations, who are radio pros. But they may be good I still would prefer
the real.
[removed] feel that recreations are for those who never saw a radio show and are
not into OTR as we, who are collectors.
I am not saying the recreations are bad, I'm saying I just can't really
enjoy [removed] recreation are good entertainment and also historical
entertainment.
Frank McGurn
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:03:35 -0500
From: William Shishko <wshishko@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hermit's Cave scripts
We would like to do a re-creation of one of the Hermit's Cave programs
for our church family camp next summer. Could someone provide me with
information regarding where I can get some scripts of these programs?
Repond to me either personally or via the digest.
Many thanks!
Bill Shishko
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:35:00 -0500
From: William Harker <wharker@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Regis Radio Corporation
Yes, I'm back on this topic again. However, I now have a sliver of
information. Regis Radio Corporation was incorporated in New York
State on January 18, 1946. This was about six months before it
secured the copyright transfer from Dashiell Hammett necessary to
produce "The Adventures of Sam Spade." It was officially dissolved
December 15, 1960.
The man who represented Regis Radio Corporation (I am guessing he did
not own it, but it's possible) was a well-known New York (City)
attorney (he was good enough that he argued cases before the [removed]
Supreme Court) named Sol. A. Rosenblatt. His is the only name and
only address provided to the Secretary of State of New York in the
incorporation papers.
Thus far, I have found nothing to indicate Rosenblatt was involved
with OTR in any way except being the legal "face" of Regis Radio
Corporation. However, if anyone knows anything about Rosenblatt I'd
be happy to hear about it.
Bill Harker
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:54:29 -0500
From: absarka_prime@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ths passing of OTR scriptwriters
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Jim Harmon wrote:
"Yesterday I heard news that was really sad to me. The great,
historic science fiction writer, Jack Williamson, died at 98. His stories
were dramatized on radio, on X MINUS 1, and I believe elsewhere as well."
And only a few days earlier, Nelson Bond - the fine fantasy writer who
appeared regularly in the pulp magazines of the 30's 40's and 50's passed
away at the age of 97. Nelson wrote a great number of OTR scripts for such
shows as Suspense, Molle Mystery Theater, Dr. Christian, X-1, and others. He
wrote a couple of series of his own; Hot Copy and Mr. Mergenthwirker's
Lobblies. Bond also wrote TV scripts for a few years but his first love was
writing for the magazines and his primary market was Blue Book magazine.
And Jim, I presume you already know this but Bob Tucker (who wrote as
Wilson Tucker) died about three weeks ago. It's been a hard month for the
world of Science Fiction.
Curt Phillips
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:54:57 -0500
From: dm4yeshua@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Big Broadcast of 44
Dear Friends of the digest and of OTR:
I recently was listening to an interview with Dennis Day done I believe.,
some time in the late 70s or very early 80s in which he mentioned a play
that he did entitled, " The Big Broadcast of 44".
This was done as if it were a live OTR program, or in the style of how the
old shows were done with mikes, sound effects, and live audiences. It
sounded like something I might want to view or hear.
Can anyone tell me anything about this play ?
Dave B.
dm4yeshua@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:45:53 -0500
From: Ken Greenwald <radio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: An answer to Stuart Lubin
I have answered a personal email from Stuart Lubin that goes beyond
what he has written to the OTR Digest.
I do not want to start a battle here on the digest, but I do want to
say a few things.
Stuart knows little of my background. He assumes too much by saying I
haven't seen recreations and that I dislike them.
I never said that. I said I enjoyed the recreations but they simply
do not come up to what professionals can do - radio actors
who were there during the Golden Age.
I have informed Stuart that I am a PROFESSIONAL in the entertainment
world. I produced/directed/edited a short film ("GOOD MORNING") that was
nominated for an Academy Award. I have received an AFI grant for
another film I did, and a National Endowment for the Arts grant.
I have just finished writing/directing/editing another film.
On top of all that, I produced 3 Sherlock Holmes radio series with
special introductions wherein I wrote and directed such radio greats
as ELLIOTT REID, PARLEY BAER, PEGGY WEBBER, ELLIOTT REID, HARRY
BARTELL and used the sound effects work of CLIFF THORSNESS.
I also have a published book called "THE LOST ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK
HOLMES," based on 12 of the Rathbone/Bruce radio shows from 1945.
I have appeared on The Merv Griffin Show, The Steve Allen Show, and
many other shows as a comedian back in the 1970's and 1980's.
I also produced two cassettes called "SPIKE JONES AND THE CITY
SLICKERS: The Radio Years."
Since 1975 I have been involved with helping the Pacific Pioneer
Broadcasters Radio Archives, and also help the SPERDVAC radio archives.
And I am a member in good standing in SAG (the Screen Actors Guild)
and AFTRA (American Federation of Television and Radio Artists) ---
and have been since 1962.
And much more I will not mention here.
I bring this up not to glorify myself (I hate doing that) but to
challenge Stuart Lubin's entire outlook on me. He knows nothing about
my background and has assumed way too much - way to much of things
that simply do not exist about me.
All I did was give my opinion about those fans that are doing radio
recreations as compared to the ability of actors/actresses who worked
in the Golden Age of radio. I find it offensive that Stuart should
bother to vilify me before such a wonderful group as those who read
the OTR Digest. He could just as easily have emailed me offline and I
would have been happy not only to answer him by email, but to meet
with him over lunch and talk about all this.
I figure that, as a professional in show business since 1962, I at
least have a right to express myself without being castigated in
front of all you people.
I shall not bring this matter up again. I am not here on the digest
to create problems, but to bring information to all of you and to
occasionally reveal some very wonderful and interesting stories I
know about the great people involved in Golden Age Radio.
I have had the ultimate joy of working at the PPB radio archives and
meeting most of the great radio actors/announcers/producers/directors/
writers before they passed on. I have shared such moments with
friends when I brought them to PPB because they love old radio as
much as I. The pleasure they have received by meeting some of the
radio greats always showed in their eyes and it brought a warmth to
my heart.
I believe Stuart is "stirring up the pot" just to get attention. I
may be wrong, but let's keep this off the digest.
Stuart, if you want to continue this, do as you wish, but I, for one,
will no longer answer you as I have better things to do than to argue
with you.
I'd much rather bring interesting information to this forum than to
pound away on my keyboard answering your diatribes.
Please forgive me for letting loose on the digest. But I truly
believe this should have been more of a discussion or opinion voiced
by Stuart than a venting of his anger at me.
Enough said.
Ken Greenwald
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:34:49 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: unlikely trademarks
There are indeed trademarked sounds--I wonder if Fibber McGee's closet could
have been one of them. But here's one that seems awfully easy to violate:
(c) Copyright 2006 United Parcel Service of America, Inc. UPS, the UPS
brandmark, and the color brown are trademarks of United Parcel Service of
America, Inc. All rights reserved.
It came in an e-mail notice about their new rates.
Mark Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
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