Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #156
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Date: 5/25/2001 9:03 AM
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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 156
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Bob and Ray Project                  [Bhob Stewart <bhob2@[removed]; ]
 bbc world service                    [leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass]
 orgies at WHRB                       [leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass]
 Lum 'n'  Abner                       [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 Mr. and Mrs. North                   [DIANEK9331@[removed]                 ]
 Tales of the Texas Rangers           [ajhubin@[removed]                   ]
 Transcription                        ["Tom Hood" <tomhood@[removed]; ]
 HARRY BARTELL                        [PURKASZ@[removed]                    ]
 HARRY BARTELL/OTHER CREDITS          ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
 The one, the only                    [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 RE: Three Sheets to the Wind         ["Bob Wallace" <ewcbob@[removed]; ]
 Wendy Warren and the News            ["A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed].]
 Raiding Radio                        ["Welsa" <welsa@[removed];        ]

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:49:24 -0400
From: Bhob Stewart <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob and Ray Project

Elizabeth: Much thanks for refreshing my recollection that THE GOON SHOW
did air on NBC in the mid-1950s. After being told this was not true by a
major GOON collector and reading WHRB's claim that they had the Goons
first, I was beginning to doubt my own sanity.

Now that my synaptic connections have been aligned, I can move along to
Sheryl Smith's BOB & RAY PROJECT. Here are some resources and memories:

Try the Museum of Television & Radio in LA. The tape collection there
duplicates the one in New York. Unlike many museums, the MT&R makes its
uncatalogued archives accessible. And the MT&R has a very large
collection of uncatalogued Bob and Ray shows. I scrolled over this once
on their computer system and saw page after page of single line
listings, each line representing another tape.
The MT&R also has some of their TV shows.

reliable chronology of where they worked and when<<

I too have wanted to see such a chronology. I rarely see mention of
their late night show of the mid-1950s, one of their more spontaneous
efforts because they had to do an hour every weeknight, and much was
just casual conversation: "I'm filling in the Os on this newspaper page,
Ray." This was a memorable show with a musical group and a nice
late-night New York feel to it.

Around that same time, they were quizmasters on a show titled, PICK AND
PLAY WITH BOB AND RAY. I recall this as airing early Saturday evening.
It put the comedy team in an unworkable, unfunny format, because they
had to chat with the contestants before a live studio audience (rather
than do characters and sketches). The audience must have been pulled off
the street (as was often done back then), because these people did not
seem to relate to subtle humor. On one or two shows, Bob and Ray were
booed by a few members of the audience.

Bob and Ray newsletters: These were sent out to a mailing list. Does
anyone know the total print run and how many issues? I recall the
address for the newsletter was given at the end of shows for many
months.

See early issues of MAD magazine where a number of Bob and Ray routines
were adapted into a comic-book story format as a semi-regular MAD
feature.

Lastly, while they were still in Boston radio, they made a recording. I
don't know how much of a rarity this is, but I saw and heard it in
Boston about 25 years ago. It appeared to be a local limited-run
pressing.

Re my comment above about audiences being pulled off the street, can
anyone elaborate on this practice? I recall TV shows such as WHO DO YOU
TRUST? in the early 1960s would have someone standing on Broadway,
giving away tickets a few hours before the show.

Bhob @ PRE-FUSE @ [removed]

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:12:53 -0400
From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  bbc world service

has played otr (the goon show and other comedy programs for instance),
though there seems to be little comedy currently.
i hope those who like hearing radio on their radios will write the bbc.
(note:heard last night that grundig sales are currently great, so
somebody must be listening.)

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:12:51 -0400
From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  orgies at WHRB

let's hear it for someone forming a whrb network.

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:30:27 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Lum 'n'  Abner

Last weekend while attending my wife's family reunion in western Arkansas
I had occasion once again (after having not been there in many years) to
drop by the Jot-em-Down store at Pine Ridge in Montgomery County.  It's
the original emporium on which the radio series was based and the casual
visitor can tell in a moment that he has stepped back into time as he
reaches the front steps with its many hand-lettered signs that start with
familiar phrases like "I doggies . . . ."

Inside is a virtual plethora of memorabilia and merchandise of every
description surrounding this one radio show, all of it reasonably priced.
 Glass counters carry very little in the way of general store commodities
-- Lum 'n' Abner emanates from nearly every corner of the place.
Probably every cassette of every L 'n' A show available is on sale, along
with calendars, mugs, books, writing instruments, dolls, pictures and the
list is almost endless.  There's even a "museum," pushed by the helpful
proprietress, where for 50 cents you can indulge yourself in even more L
'n' A entertainment.

Here's one country "general store" that is indeed unique unto itself.
Anyone who is rabid about L 'n' A, and there appear to be plenty of those
folks on this list, owe it to themselves to place this little enterprise
on their traveling agendas if they're anywhere near it.  They will be
rewarded immeasurably with memories that surround a single show (none
other is included in the merchandise or mentioned by the store's help) as
if that was all that radio ever broadcast.

The store is open March 1 to Nov. 1 Tuesday through Saturday 9-5 [removed] and
Sunday 12-5 [removed]  Telephone number:  870-326-4442.  Email:
nstucker@[removed].  Webpage:  [removed]

The annual L 'n' A convention is held at nearby Mean, Ark. and this year
will be on June 15-16.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Jot-em-Down store
did half its annual business that weekend when the faithful return to
town.

Jim Cox

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:00:50 -0400
From: DIANEK9331@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mr. and Mrs. North

Thank you for all the responses about the Amos 'n' Andy logs. Now I am
looking for one for Mr. and Mrs. North. Any help is appreciated.
Diane

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:00:15 -0400
From: ajhubin@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tales of the Texas Rangers

I've listened my way through the available
episodes of Tales of the Texas Rangers,
noting writers and cast members, and have
compiled a log from this data.  It's posted on
Charlie Summers' web site (address at the
end of the digest), for anyone who's interested.

Special thanks are due to Don Aston, who kindly
supplied missing credits (for shows not in
circulation, or those broadcast without credits)
from his collection of Tales of the Texas Rangers
scripts.  And he also helped with some troublesome
name spellings from the same source.

Al Hubin

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:31:14 -0400
From: "Tom Hood" <tomhood@[removed];
To: "Old Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Transcription

Hi All
Today I found a 12" axetate that is rather [removed]
Recorded by Levy's Sound Studios
74 New Bond Street,London,UK
"Carry On No 5"
Ed Lee
"I hear A Rhapsody" & closing
The contents are banter between Ed Lee & an announcer (Presenter)
After Lee sings his song the announcer advises that the program is for the
"workers & forces of Great Britain" This would indicate the broadcast was
made during WW II
There is no date on the [removed]'s cut at 78 RPM & is marked Disc No 8. The
acetate is bonded to heavy steel [removed] aluminum like North American
Discs.
I would be grateful for any addition [removed]
Thank You
Tom Hood

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:31:11 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  HARRY BARTELL

    What a delight to find Mr. Bartell a part of this forum.
    There are not many shows that ring the airwaves around this house that do
not feature his talents and I for one, as a radio guy from 1961-1969, need to
take the time to thank him now for his many great performances!
    Salute to you sir!
    How about some tales, "well calculated" for our delight?
    You really must get to the keyboard and spin some yarns for us "kiddies"
but, as Bette Davis once said to me, "only if it amuses you."
    Be well.
                     <A HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">
Michael C. Gwynne</A>

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:19:12 -0400
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  HARRY BARTELL/OTHER CREDITS

  I too would like to welcome Mr. Bartell to the Digest.  There were more
than the Suspense and Escape shows this wonderful man was on.  I have some
Gunsmoke, and Dragnet shows you did during our hey-day.  Do you remember a
Gunsmoke show you did called "The Badge"? #209, 3/28/'59. In it you and
Larry Dopkin played two outlaws who wound and hold Matt Dillon captive.  You
were obssesd with his badge and wanted to wear it. Your character (Rack) was
a not too bright outlaw.

   Speaking of Larry Dopkin, is he still living? Do any of the Media posters
have any info on him?

Owens Pomeroy


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Mr. Dobkin is still around. He recently performed guest roles
on both "NYPD Blue" and "Judging Amy," as mentioned in the Digest. See what
happens when you ignore posts with the word "television" in them?  ;)  --cfs3]

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:06:06 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The one, the only

On a cross country journey earlier this month I was able to combine two
of my childhood passions, rail and radio, into a single excursion.  While
this forum isn't the place to discuss Amtrak, my second long distance
trip by rail in as many years was a delightful throwback to my youth when
I traveled that way frequently.  I encourage others to try it -- relive
your youth or discover what a fabulous alternative it can be to air and
highway travel.  I'll entertain questions and comments about the
logistics of rail travel if anyone wishes to get in touch with me.

In a brief stopover in L. A. we spent a day returning to Universal
Studios, a terrific experience that we had had limited time to see a few
years ago.  I'll not attempt to describe all the enchantments that await
the vacationer there but simply mention that radio/TV/film was well
represented.  Some live characters -- models, really -- who freely
interacted with patrons just inside the park entrance -- caught my eye
immediately.  Laurel and Hardy were there looking more like themselves
(in person!) than they ever did on screen.  Marilyn Monroe wore her
infamous white dress.  Charlie Chaplin showed up.  Several others passed
by us so quickly I can't recall them all.

But the one that stood out most in my mind was the one, the only Groucho
Marx, along with Harpo and Chico.  The bespectacled young man portraying
Groucho carried a cigar and not only looked the part but had the clever
lines and dialect down perfectly.  He spent a little time with me
lightheartedly making fun of my aloha shirt ("You came dressed so nobody
would know you were a tourist, right?") and, nudging me, he pointed to
Chico, gleefully telling me:  "Imagine having to spend your whole day
with that!"  I wish I knew that guy's real name -- I'd love to write him
and tell him how super in that part he really is.

If you get a chance to go there on your vacation, tell Groucho the guy in
the aloha shirt sent you!

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:40:42 -0400
From: "Bob Wallace" <ewcbob@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Net" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Three Sheets to the Wind

I have a poor copy of the pilot I got from AFRTS, it stars Brian Donlevy.
It seems to me I read somewhere that since the hero was always
three sheets to the wind (under the influence), no network would pick it up.

Bob

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:54:49 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Wendy Warren and the News

I remember hearing Wendy Warren a couple of times circa 1954.  It involved
the adventures of Wendy Warren, a female radio news reporter.  At the end
of the show, after a commercial, the announcer would say, "And now, Wendy
Warren and the News!" and "Wendy Warren" would come on and do a real
newscast.


 A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                        [removed]
 15 Court Square                     lawyer@[removed]
 Boston, MA 02108-2503      [removed]~lawyer/

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:51:14 -0400
From: "Welsa" <welsa@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Raiding Radio

Last night (Thursday) our local PBS station showed Alfred Hitchcock's
classic "North By Northwest".  Oneof my all time favorite films and I was
glued to the small screen throughout.

This film was put out in 1959, a period when there was no doubt radio was
waning very badly.  As I watched the film I found myself paying more
attention to small background details since I knew the story quite well and
did not need to follow it that closely.  I was amazed to see anumber of
radio stars appearing in this film.  It led me to do some research and I
came up with the following list of radio actors in that movie:

Stanley Adams
Sara Berner
Leo G. Carroll
Lawrence Dobkin
Jessie Royce Landis
Frank Lovejoy
Ken Lynch
Robert Shayne
Olan Soule
Les Tremayne
Tom Tully
Carleton Young

I'm sure lots of other films of that era had just as many if not more
ex-radio folks in them--after all, they still had to eat, too!  But it was
delighful to see so many last night.  Even in minor, and in some cases,
uncredited, roles.

Ted Meland
Madison, Wisconsin

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