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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 11
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Elvis Presley [ JayHick@[removed] ]
nonsense words [ Dave Reeder <dave@[removed]; ]
Re: classic radio bloopers [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Give That Ranger a Hand [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
AFRS Ain't What It Used To Be [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
Radio gunplay [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
Dick King, RIP [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
OTR weather reports? [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
Larry Albert [ Jmeals@[removed] ]
Lum & Abner roles [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
Congrats to Jim Cox! [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
1-12 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Radio show foulups [ Bill Miles <bmiles@[removed]. ]
Mormon Tabernacle Choir at 75 [ Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@earthlin ]
Mairzy Doats [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
great gildersleeve recording [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
Ginger and the charging rhinoceros [ "charles lowery" <larson1@adelphia. ]
OTR heard on the air [ Tbs50A@[removed] ]
Re: Hut-Sut song [ Eric Cooper <ercjncpr@[removed]; ]
Lum and Abner [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:31:10 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Elvis Presley
Can anyone help Fabris. His email is <plcpf@[removed];
My name is Fabris [removed],38 years [removed]'m studying,and loving Elvis Presley
since I was 11 years old.
I got your address through the kind help of Mrs Janet McKee,I visited last
week at the Library of Congress during my researches on Elvis unreleased
material.
I'm an Elvis researcher expecially on the early [removed] particularly like the
Louisiana Hayride,Opry,Saturday Night Country Style days and so I started
doing researches on this and trying to meet and interview as much people
as I could.
I'm also a private collector and I have some good pieces which I'm very
proud [removed] told I'm doing this research to obtain historic elements
and [removed]'m interested in acetates,recordings,posters,[removed]
to contact as many persons that were 'there' as possible to remember with
them!!
All these researches are in relation to a book/CD project for the Elvis fan
club network. It's a 3/4 CD 200 pages book about Elvis stay at SUN records
done by Ernst Jorgensen which I'm now helping detailing the period from July
of 1954 through the end of 1955. The book will consist of more than 400
early photos - half of them previously unpublished. It's not an attempt of
once again write the story of Elvis Presley, but more a collection of
information, photos, memorabilia and stories shared by fans who where there
at the time. The book will not deal in gossip or other unpleasant material
it's all about the innocence of the time and the impact of Elvis' music. We
are trying to document every single show Elvis did, and we have come fairly
close. So I'm looking for photos,recordings from Louisiana Hayride or
Opry,or any live radio gig or interview .... ANYTHING IS WELCOME FROM THE
50s!!
Have you ever come across people owning early Elvis gigs recordings or photos?
Do you own Elvis unreleased early material?
I'm also doing researches on 16" AFRTS discs produced on Saturday Night
Country Style and [removed] you info on these?
Hope to hear from you soon and this is not too much of an intrusion.
Sincerely yours
Fabris [removed]
Elvis Researcher
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:45:00 -0500
From: Dave Reeder <dave@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: nonsense words
an interesting extension to the nonsense songs came from pierre bastien who
1967 book 'mots d'heures: gousses, rames' performed the seemingly impossible
feat of reproducing english nursery rhymes with french words, that also made
sense in french!
the whole thing was presented as some kind of rediscovered medieval
manuscript.
so humpty dumpty becomes 'un petit d'un petit' and solomon grundy turns into
'seul a moine, grogne d'y'...
dave
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:55:54 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: classic radio bloopers
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I've heard actors and comedians crack up on "Amos 'n' Andy" (half hour
version), "The Jimmy Durante Show," "The Jack Benny Show" and "The Fred Allen
Show."
Once during the Allen's Alley segment, you heard Senator Claghorn, then a
poorly-timed door slam, then Claghorn in the same voice (not muffled as if
through a door) say "So long, that is!" The audience howls at the mistake,
then
howls even louder when Fred says "I heard you through the keyhole, Senator!"
Biggest I can remember is at the end of some Jack Webb adventure show ("Pat
Novak" perhaps?) in which the announcer flubs the reading of the cast, almost
cracks up, then says "this is ABC, the National Broadcasting Company!"
(Correct network was ABC.) You can actually hear someone in the background
laughing
at all of this as the network feed ends.
Dixon
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:17:49 -0500
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Give That Ranger a Hand
Rick Keating notes,
Mark Kinsler asked if one could really shoot a gun out of someone's
hand. I think the real question is would the shootee ever be able to use
that hand again? It hardly seems likely. Based on an understanding of
simple physics, I think we can be sure that hand will all but be done
for.
Physics, indeed. This depends upon what the shooter's bullet hit. If it
hit the person's hand, then that hand would be a mess. But if it hit the
pistol, then it wouldn't be that bad. Physics, particularly Newtonian
mechanics, would indicate that the impact would be analogous to the
recoil of a pistol.
Of course, this brings us back to the original question. A legendary
marksman such as the Lone Ranger could conceivably (perhaps
definitionally) have the skill to shoot a gun out of a person's hand, but
for us mortals, I wouldn't recommend it.
Besides the Lone Ranger, though, there are few OTR heroes with that level
of marksmanship.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:37:56 -0500
From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: AFRS Ain't What It Used To Be
...although the venerable Zenith Transoceanic is no
more (right?)
I'd guess that in 1966 you had the Royal 1000 or the
Royal 3000 series radios. The last of that line was
completed in 1971. They were fine radios and are still
sought by collectors. You can take a trip down memory
lane by going to [removed]
Your idea of a shortwave radio is a valid one. Who the
heck wants to listen to Rap and Pop junk? Shame on you
AFRS! The good news is that there are several
inexpensive, small and lightweight units out there
that might be a good match. I have had very good luck
with the Kaito WRX911 shortwave receiver while
backpacking and other travel. This unit weighs less
than 8 ounces with batteries, is very sensitive and
picks up many of the international stations with ease.
The radio can be found on e-bay for around $25. So if
it is lost, broken or stolen it won't be too tragic.
There are other models out there but you will pay more
as they have features like clocks and digital
readouts. The WRX911 draws very little power from 2 AA
batteries. Power availability should be considered in
a war zone.
You can read a review of the WRX911 here;
[removed]
-Tom
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:54:56 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio gunplay
Granted, that hand wouldn't be worth much
afterward. However, as I understand it, these
Western heroes aimed for (and usually hit) the
gun which was being aimed at them and not the
hand in which it was being held. Wouldn't this
be a preferable alternative? On TV, I've seen
Western gunfighters shoot their opponents in the
arm (bicep) or some other part of their body
rather than 'gun them down'.
Another OTR Fan,
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:38:46 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Dick King, RIP
Jan issue of "Return With Us Now" of the Radio Historical Society of
Colorado reports the sad news that Dick King passed away on December
1st, one month short of his 80th birthday. Dick was a linchpin in the
Colorado OTR group, serving as President, converting archives from
reel to cassette, serving as membership chairman and librarian, as well
as managing the Denver OTR conventions. He was known to many in the OTR
community through his attendance at other OTR conventions, including
FOTR in Newark. He will be missed. Dick was survived by wife, Maletha,
their daughter, two grandchildren, and two great grandchildren.
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:12:26 -0500
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR weather reports?
HI,
"Corganoid" asks if any weather reports were aired on OTR. As I recall,
usually only on local newscasts. But, of course, in emergencies (blizzards,
floods, etc) I'm sure many stations would pre-empt even network "feeds" to
keep locals aware of what was happening weather-wise.
KFI, Los Angeles (sounds like an ID, doesn't it) used to pre-empt the first
4 or 5 minutes at 8 pm for the ever-popular "fruit frost warnings" during
the winter season, thereby making us miss the beginning of many "Truth or
Consequences" shows, not to mention other 8 pm NBC shows all week long. Of
course, the local morning DJ shows and the newscasts gave periodic weather
reports ; listen to Arthur Godfrey on the WJSV air-check for an example.
Bobb
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:26:00 -0500
From: Jmeals@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Larry Albert
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I would like to express my appreciation for the work of Larry Albert, a
frequent contributor to this space.
Last weekend, Imagination Theater broadcast the first Harry Nile episode in
which Mr. Albert took over the role from Phil Harper who died a few months
ago. I suspect that this program posed a difficult challenge for Larry Albert
from both a professional and personal perspective.
Phil Harper's Harry Nile will long be remembered and cherished by the many
fans of Imagination Theater. But Harry's very unique career as a P. I.
should
continue and it is in good hands with Larry Albert.
As I listened to the show, I was a bit edgy at first, not sure as to how I
would accept Harry's new voice. But, less than half way into the broadcast,
I
was completely caught up in the story.
Phil Harper helped to create a wonderful character that can be enjoyed by
OTR buffs and new fans of radio drama. The talented folks at Imagination
Theater
are obviously determined that his fine work will be continued. If
Imagination Theater is not available on a station in your area, it can be
heard at
[removed]
Special thanks to Larry Albert for a special performance.
Jim Meals
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:49:11 -0500
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lum & Abner roles
Hi,
I recall (I wish I had noted the date) a show in which "Abner" is talking to
"Cedric" and Norris Goff calls "Cedric" "Lum", and they ad-lib a few seconds
as "Cedric" corrects "Abner" and they get back on track. I think it may
have been after the Postum years. And , of course, Norris Goff plays Dick
Huddleston (a real -life resident of Pine Ridge), "Mousey Grey" AND "Squire
Skimp", among others.
Tim Hollis, of the National Lum and Abner(r) Society, can answer all your L
& A questions at: Hollis1963@[removed]
Life-long fan and member of the NLAS,
Bobb Lynes
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:49:30 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Congrats to Jim Cox!
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Hi Gang:
At this juncture, I'd very much would like to extend to my good pal (& one of
my favourite OTR authors) Jum Cox a hearty congratulations on having his
latest volume, "Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons" being acquired by the New
York Public Library for the Performing Arts at Lincoln Center, Billy Rose
Theatre Collection, Third Floor. I saw a copy there the other day on the new
acquisitions shelf.
OTR fans might also be pleased to know that Mr. Cox's "Radio Crime Fighters"
is shelf-accessible at "Billy Rose" amid all those other seminal works by the
likes of Messrs. Dunning, Hickerson, Grams, Buxton & Owens, et. al.
Bravo, Jim! A truly nice guy!
Ether!
Derek Tague
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:43 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-12 births/deaths
January 12th births
01-12-1878 - Ferenc Molnar - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 4-1-1952
playwright: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-12-1892 - Ed McConnell - Atlanta, GA - d. 7-24-1954
host, actor: Smilin' Ed McConnell Show"
01-12-1894 - Tommy Handley - Liverpool, England - d. 1-9-1949
comedian: Minister of Aggravation "It's That Man Again"; "Radio Radiance"
01-12-1896 - Harry Reser - Piqua, OH - d. 9-27-1965
bandleader: "Cliquot Club Eskimos"
01-12-1902 - Joe E. Lewis - NYC - d. 6-4-1971
comedian: "Midnight to Dawn in New York and London"; "Command Performance"
01-12-1905 - Tex Ritter - Murvaul, TX - d. 1-2-1974
singer: "Lone Star Rangers"
01-12-1906 - Henny Youngman - Liverpool, England (Raised: Brooklyn, NY) - d.
2-24-1998
comedian: "Kate Smith Hour"
01-12-1910 - Luise Rainer - Vienna, Austria
actress: "Linclon Highway"; "Yesterday's Children"
01-12-1910 - Patsy Kelly - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-24-1981
comedienne: "MGM Musical Comedy Theatre"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Screen Guild
Theatre"
01-12-1911 - Lon Clark - Frost, MN - d. 10-4-1998
actor: Nick Carter "Nick Carter, Master Detective"; Keith Richards "Bright
Horizon"
01-12-1912 - Sara Berner - Albany, NY - d. 12-19-1969
actress: Mable Flapsaddle "Jack Benny Program"; Ingrid Mataratzo "Jimmy
Durante Show"
01-12-1923 - Ira Hayes - Gila River Indian Reservation, AZ - d. 1-24-1955
Iwo Jima flagraiser: "Interview programs"
01-12-1926 - Ray Price - Perryville, TX
singer: "Galaxy of Stars"
01-12-1930 - Glenn Yarborough - Milwaukee, WI
singer: "Guest Star"
January 12th deaths
01-17-1899 - Nevil Shute - d. 1-12-1960
novelist: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-23-1919 - Ernie Kovacs - Trenton, NJ - d. 1-12-1962
announcer: WTTM Trenton, NJ
03-16-1893 - Isobel Elson - Cambridge, England - d. 1-12-1981
actress: Jessie Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"
04-20-1914 - Betty Lou Gerson - Chattanooga, TN - d. 1-12-1999
actress: Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"; Charlotte Wilson "The Guiding
Light"
06-07-1911 - Stanley Unwin - Pretoria, South Africa - d. 1-12-2002
sound engineer, commentator: British Broadcasting Corporation
06-18-1904 - Keye Luke - Canton, China - d. 1-12-1991
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Image Minorities"
07-09-1917 - Kay Aldredge - Tallahassee, FL - d. 1-12-1995
actress: "Maxwell House Coffee Time"
08-03-1903 - John S. Young - Springfield, MA - d. 1-12-1976
announcer: Foreign news for NBC in Nyw York
09-15-1890 - Agatha Christie - Torquay, England - d. 1-12-1976
author: Creator of "Hercule Poirot"
10-18-1911 - Helen Claire - Union Springs, AL - d. 1-12-1974
actress: Virginia Lansing "Backstage Wife"; Joyce Jordan "Joyce Jordan,[removed]"
11-12-1884 - Griff Barnett - Blue Ridge, TX - d. 1-12-1958
actor: Rexall Family Druggist "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
12-21-1917 - Rolly Bester - NYC - d. 1-12-1984
actress: "Tales of Tomorrow"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:52:52 -0500
From: Bill Miles <bmiles@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio show foulups
I've got a Baby Snooks radio show where Fanny Brice really fouls up on
some lines. The audience breaks up completely over her frustration. She
finally gets back on track as Hanley Stafford patiently waits.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:03:30 -0500
From: Lee Munsick <damyankeeinva@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mormon Tabernacle Choir at 75
About two years back, I noted that I was having difficulty finding how and
where to listen to the long-lived Mormon Choir program "Music and the Spoken
Word". Then I found it carried on a local NPR station. Later, I stumbled
onto it on cable television, on the Hallmark Channel. In each case, it
ultimately disappeared from those media.
Last Sunday I found it again, carried on Cable channel BYU. That stands for
Brigham Young University, which I should have known. It is distributed by
Bonneville Communications (nee Broadcasting), also no surprise. I'm sure it
originates through KSL as it always has.
This program, undoubtedly the longest ongoing in radio history, celebrated
its 75th Anniversary last July. That magnificent television airing was
repeated last Sunday. It included fascinating historical black-and-white
film footage (actually shown in sepia) and stills from 1929 and since. The
musical offerings repeated items featured in the first program, and many
favorites since played many times on the radio and on the many [removed]
recordings, LPs and CDs.
The 75th Anniversary program will be repeated again on BYU cable this
Wednesday evening, January 12, showing at 9 [removed] EST, according to the
promotional information seen on Sunday. You may wish to join me in taping it.
I have no financial interest in the program or any of the corporate entities
mentioned here, nor am I a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints. I may
not know much about the Mormons, but I know what I like in music, and this
gutsy, huge choir, augmented orchestra and magnificent 5-rank organ generate
spectacular sound. The visuals were fascinating as well, and the "spoken
word" is inspiring, but not [removed] proselytizing in the sense of annoying the
listener/viewer. I recommend it highly.
Congratulations to the LDS, KSL, Bonneville, and of course the choir,
leaders, word-speakers, and all the musicians and technicians involved over
75 and a half years! Bravo!!!
Lee Munsick
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:03:40 -0500
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mairzy Doats
I have a dim recollection of something on TV in the 1960s or 70s where
someone recited the lyrics of Mairzy Doats as if it was a profoundly serious
poem and the result was really funny.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:03:53 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: great gildersleeve recording
Today whilst browsing through our local shoe-factory-turned-antique-mall I
came upon a Capitol record album in which the Great Gildersleeve reads
childrens' stories. There was a picture of Harold Peary, and the liner
notes said that all of the acting and orchestration was by the regular cast
and crew on the radio show.
M Kinsler
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:04:16 -0500
From: "charles lowery" <larson1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Ginger and the charging rhinoceros
There is a good OTR-related article in Newsweek, [removed], 2005, page
62,called "Tinseltown Dreams". David Jefferson tells of his mother, Edith
Jefferson, who played Ginger the secretary on "The Romance of Helen Trent"
in the 1940s. He wrote that his mother, 90 years old, decided to get back in
the business, and "Now, whenever I turn on the TV, there's Mom, yelling at a
neighbor to 'Shoot it' when a rhino charges through a Nikon commercial". She
is also in a McDonald's apple pie commercial. I have not seen that one, but
she is a great character in the Nikon commercial.
Chuck
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:04:32 -0500
From: Tbs50A@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR heard on the air
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While tuning around on my little Emerson midget radio I heard Jack Benny on
Suspence playing a bankrobber. The station was CHML 900kc on your dial out of
Canada. OTR shows seem to run weeknites starting at 10:00 pm est Signal is
good here near Phila Pa.
Enjoy
Terry
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:59:49 -0500
From: Eric Cooper <ercjncpr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Hut-Sut song
The liner notes for the mid-60s Readers Digest LP set called "The Great
Band Era" state:
"The Hut-Sut Song is a nonsense song with tongue-twisting lyrics by Leo
V. Killon, an attorney for the California Legislative Council"
Eric Cooper
Lake Forest, CA
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:00:03 -0500
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lum and Abner
I concur with Edward Hutchison's assessment of the voice roles on Lum
and Abner. Perhaps the confusion over the voice of Dick Huddleston stems
from the fact that Norris Goff, when providing that voice, is really using
his natural voice. Chet Lauck freely admitted that Goff was the better vocal
talent of the two, but Lauck was no slouch.
What a shame that no film exists of the two doing a show together. That
would be something to see, especially when a roomful of men are going at it,
such as during a meeting of the "Golden Era Discussion Club." In my dreams a
film of this type is found in some old trunk somewhere. Dream on.
Wonderful World!
Michael Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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