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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2010 : Issue 200
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  X MINUS ONE MYSTERIES                 [ "AVPRO" <avprotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: X Minus One Mysteries             [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  11-19 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Yours truly & Lost Horizon            [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  11-20 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history 21-27 Nov  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  OTR query for anyone                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:53:51 -0500
From: "AVPRO" <avprotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  X MINUS ONE MYSTERIES
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In answer to Andrew Steinberg's querry as to the X MINUS ONE Audition Show of
04-22-55 "And the Moon Be Still as Bright" iof it was actually broadcast or
not.  Just because the show was not listed in any newspaper specifically is
understandable.  Auditions were aired many time unannounced.  The date and
title are correct.  I have an NBCmaster tape of the show.  Program 19 09-22-55
is a repeat.  You may go to my website and check my log [removed]

Don Aston
avprotr@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:56:20 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: X Minus One Mysteries

[removed]@[removed] wrote:

On the always well researched Digital Deli site, they posit that the X Minus
One show circulating as the 55-04-22 Audition (And the Moon Be Still as
Bright) is a mislabeled episode #19 55-09-22.

Andrew Steinberg asks several questions that were posed on the Digital
Deli's web site.

Some of what the writer on that web site indicated is what I have been
arguing for a long time and have seen it repeated time after time as an
error. When I researched Science Fiction on Radio back in 1996 with my
co-author Meade Frierson, I focused quite a bit on those two series -
Dimension X and X Minus One. We also had letter exchanges from several
people involved in the productions as well as some interviewing I have
done since including with George Lefferts, one of the writers.

I have not been able to find anywhere, any documentation that there was
ever an audition show for X Minus One nor for Dimension X.  Some of the
ideas that the Digital Deli touched upon agree with what I have
contended for a long time. First of all, the Library of Congress has no
indication of there ever having been any audition show. Secondly, X
Minus One was the effort of those production personnel who, after the
demise of Dimension X, felt there was still a viable market on radio for
a new Science Fiction series. Since the concept of the show was
essentially the same as Dimension X, it would make no sense to put out
the cost of an audition for the new series.

Van Woodward, the producer of Dimension X indicated to us that in 1950
when the series was on the air his budget was under $1000 per week. He
was then paying authors of the original stories upwards to $250-$300 per
use of their story. By the time X Minus One came along, he could only
afford to pay $50 per original story. What allowed the series to exist
was the heavy use of the NBC production staff who were payed out of NBC
as employees and not directly by the series itself. Van Woodward said,
if he had to actually pay them directly, he would have needed a weekly
budget of closer to $2000.

I disagree with the author on the Digital Deli web site that the onus
was on the SF magazines to make the shows profitable.  The agreement
with those two magazines was strictly a scratch-my-back approach - an ad
in the magazine for the radio series with a mention for publications on
the radio show. That was it. They did provide stories from the
publications for the staff at NBC to find potential stories to adapt as
part of that exchange.

There are some other comments the web site makes that are apparently
made without real contact with the surviving staff people, but the gist
of their information is correct from all the research I have done.  It
would have been nice for them to try to cull all the documentation for
their provenance, but apparently they either didn't have access to it ,
or they ignored it. The book Meade and I published back in 1996 stated
for example that the Zero Hour episode broadcast on 11/23/55 is a full
version of Zero Hour and not this "14 minute version" they mention.
Granted they are also stating this claim as alleged, but they also don't
state it is a full version which it was. If they had consulted our book
(again I stress this goes back to 1996, though it appears information on
these shows have gone askew since it was published), they would have
found it listed as a full version.

The work I did on those two series including getting a copy of every
single episode and carefully ensuring that there weren't edits within it
to try to make it into something it was not. I also backed up my
information with what I found from the Library of Congress plus,
conversations with George Lefferts and the letters we had originally
from various production people.

I have found it very frustrating to see how the Internet has helped
perpetuate so many errors on these series by being able to pass
information around not fully checked. The Digital Deli says this is what
they  are trying to resolve, but have found that even they have created
problems mostly through their going essentially to the same sources -
Dave Goldin's Index (which has errors) and newspapers.

Those two series are pretty much locked down in my opinion and it seems
often that people create chimeras where none actually exist.

Jim Widner

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:56:30 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-19 births/deaths

November 19th births

11-19-1863 - Billy Sunday - Ames, IA - d. 11-6-1935
preacher: "Back Home Hour"
11-19-1864 - Geroge Barbier - Philadelphia, PA - d. 7-19-1945
actor: "Song of the Islands"
11-19-1883 - Ned Sparks - Guelph, Canada - d. 4-3-1957
actor: "The Grouch Club"; "The Texaco Star Theatre"
11-19-1885 - Erskine Sanford - Trinidad, CO - d. 7-7-1969
actor: "The Free Company"; "Mercury Theatre on the Air"; "Orson Welles
Theatre"
11-19-1889 - Clifton Webb - Indianapolis, IN - d. 10-13-1966
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-19-1890 - Charme Allen - Dayton, OH - d. 10-4-1980
actor: Aunt Polly "David Harum"; Ma Owen "Into the Light"
11-19-1897 - Bud Green - Austria - d. 1-2-1981
lyricist: "Great Moments to Music"
11-19-1900 - Algernon Black - d. 5-9-1993
newscaster: WQXR New York, New York
11-19-1901 - Charles Webster - England - d. 2-xx-1965
actor: Dr. Kimball "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Tom Bryson "Backstage Wife"
11-19-1905 - Eleanor Audley - NYC - d. 11-25-1991
actor: Elizabeth Smith "Father Knows Best"
11-19-1905 - Tommy Dorsey - Shenandoah, PA - d. 11-26-1956
bandleader: "Jack Pearl Program"; "Fame and Fortune"; "Tommy Dorsey
Show"
11-19-1913 - Blue Barron - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-16-2005
bandleader: "Blue Barron and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"
11-19-1918 - Spiro Agnew - Towson, MD - d. 9-17-1996
[removed] vice president: "Meet the Press"
11-19-1919 - Alan Young - North Shields, England
comedian: "Alan Young Show"; "Tony Martin Show"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
11-19-1921 - Roy Campenella - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-26-1993
sports news: "Campy's Corner"
11-19-1922 - Dick Wesson - Maine - d. 4-25-1996
announcer: "Space Patrol"; "Hollywood Open House"
11-19-1923 - Eugenie Baird - d. 6-12-1988
vocalist: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Forever Top"; "Sing It Again"
11-19-1923 - Frank Reynolds - East Chicago, IN - d. 7-20-1983
newscaster: Chicago radio
11-19-1924 - J. D. Sumner - Lakeland, FL - d. 11-15-1998
singer: (Blackwood Brothers Quartet) "Songs of the Gospel"
11-19-1933 - Larry King - Brooklyn, NY
talk show host: "WOR Diamond Julilee"; "Rambling with Gambling"
11-19-1936 - Dick Cavett - Gibbon, NE
talk show host: "Jean Shepherd Show"
11-19-1939 - Garrick Utley - Chicago, IL
news correspondent: "Second Sunday"
11-19-1940 - Roger Hume - London, England - d. 8-24-1996
actor: Bert Fry "The Archers"
11-19-1941 - Tommy Thompson - Elroy, WI
wisconsin governor: Response to Bill Clinton
11-19-1954 - Kathleen Quinlan - Pasadena, CA
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
11-19-1956 - Glynnis O'Connor - NYC
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

November 19th deaths

01-06-1903 - Francis L. Sullivan - London, England - d. 11-19-1956
actor: "[removed] Steel Hour"
03-01-1896 - George Frame Brown - d. 11-19-1979
actor: Gus "Tony and Gus"
05-01-1888 - Anna Appel - Bucharest, Romania - d. 11-19-1963
actor: Mrs. Cohen "Abie's Irish Rose"
05-11-1895 - Maurice Joachim - d. 11-19-1980
actor: Omar "Omar, the Mystic"; "Unseen Friend "Your Unseen Friend"
05-11-1919 - John Michael Hayes - Worcester, MA - d. 11-19-2008
writer: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Twelve Players"; "Sam Spade"
05-20-1926 - John Lucarotti - England - d. 11-19-1994
writer: "Doctor Who"
05-30-1902 - Stepin Fetchit - Key West, FL - d. 11-19-1985
comedian: "Hollywood Hotel"
05-30-1912 - Julian Symons - London, England - d. 11-19-1994
crime writer: "Night Driver to Dover"; "Affection Unlimited"
07-01-1907 - Bill Stern - Rochester, NY - d. 11-19-1971
sportscaster: "Carnival of Champions"; "Colgate Sports Newsreel"
07-02-1928 - John Timpson - Harrow, England - d. 11-19-2005
presenter: "Today"
07-30-1916 - Dick Wilson - Preston, Lancashire, England - d. 11-19-2007
actor: "Family Theatre" Mr. Whipple in Charmin commercials
09-05-1887 - Vera Barstow - d. 11-19-1962
violinists: KHJ Los Angeles, California
09-10-1900 - Francis Craig - Dickson, IN - d. 11-19-1966
bandleader: "Spotlight Revue"
11-02-1906 - Joseph Ruscoll - d. 11-19-1956
writer: "The Molle Mystery Theatre"; "Murder at Midnight"
12-29-1930 - Doris Chillcott - Vancouver, Canada - d. 11-19-2006
performer on radio in her native Canada

Ron

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:56:47 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Yours truly & Lost Horizon

Question:  I have many of the "Yours truly, Johnny Dollar" 5-part shows.
None of them close with a CBS identification.  Only one week has commercials
(rubber Christmas toys).
Anyone know why the CBS ID was not included?

Question:  Does anyone have a good quality dub of "Lost Horizon" from Lux
Radio Theater (9/15/41)?  My copy is only fair, lots of AM hum or buzz, no
intro, no extro.  Not even comments by DeMille.  I have 3 versions of LH:
Lux, NBC University Theater, and Favorite Story. Have I missed any?

Ted Kneebone. Old Time Radio:
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:56:55 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-20 births/deaths

November 20th births

11-20-1883 - Edwin August - d. 3-4-1964
drama critic on KFI Los Angeles, California
11-20-1887 - Eck Robinson - Delaney, AR - d. 2-17-1975
fiddler: "Three Fidders"
11-20-1890 - Otto Tolischus - d. 2-25-1967
correspondent: "Information Please"
11-20-1890 - Robert Armstrong - Saginaw, MI - d. 4-20-1973
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-20-1891 - Reginald Denny - Richmond, Surrey, England - d. 6-16-1967
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Texaco Star
Theatre"
11-20-1900 - Chester Gould - Pawnee,  Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-11-1985
comic strip artist: "Dick Tracy"
11-20-1907 - Fran Allison - La Porte City, IA - d. 6-13-1989
actor, singer: Aunt Fanny, "Breakfast Club"; "National Barn Dance";
"Uncle Ezra"
11-20-1908 - Alistair Cooke - Manchester, England - d. 3-30-2004
host: "Transatlantic Quiz"; "Letter to America"; "Stage and Screen"
11-20-1910 - Frank Goss - Washington, [removed] - d. 5-7-1962
announcer: "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Escape"; "Stars Over Hollywood"
11-20-1910 - Ralph Muzzillo - d. 12-16-1985
trombone: (Benny Goodman's Orchestra) "Let's Dance"
11-20-1912 - Harold Ensley - Arkansas - d. 8-24-2005
produced over 5,000 radio shows
11-20-1916 - Judy Canova - Stark, FL - d. 8-5-1983
comedian: "Paul Whiteman's Musical; Varieties"; "Charlie McCarthy
Show"; "Judy Canova Show"
11-20-1916 - Margaret Draper - Spanish Fork, UT
actor: "Under Arrest"; Cavalcade of America"; "Suspense"
11-20-1916 - Virginia Verrill - Santa Monica, CA - d. 1-18-1999
blues singer: "The Jack Haley Show"; "Show Boat"; "Uncle Walter's
Doghouse"
11-20-1917 - Jim Hawthorne - Victor, CO - d. 11-6-2007
disk jockey: "The Hawthorne Thing"; "Hawthorne's Adventures"
11-20-1918 - Kathie Kay - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 3-8-2005
singer: "Billy Cotton Band Show"
11-20-1919 - Evelyn Keyes - Port Arthur, TX - d. 7-4-2008
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-20-1920 - Gene Tierney - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-6-1991
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Great Scenes from Great Plays"; "[removed]
Steel Hour"
11-20-1921 - Phyllis Thaxter - Portland, ME
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-20-1925 - Bobby Kennedy - Brookline, MA - d. 6-6-1968
[removed] senator: "Meet the Press"
11-20-1926 - Kay Ballard - Cleveland, OH
actor: "Stagestruck"; "Stars for Defense"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
11-20-1929 - Kenneth Schermerhorn - Schenactady, NY - d. 4-18-2005
conductor: "Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra"
11-20-1937 - Jack Linkletter - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-18-2007
commercial spokesman: ABC News
11-20-1945 - Michale Hyde - Cessnock, Australia
writer: "Nobody's Ever Complained Before"
11-20-1947 - Richard Shulberg - The Bronx, NY - d. 3-14-2009
presenter, musician: (Citizen Kafka) "The Secret Museum of the Air"
11-20-1948 - Richard Masur - New York, NY
actor: "We Hold These Truths"

November 20th deaths

02-03-1884 - Maude Davis - San Francisco, CA - d. 11-20-1946
vaudevillian: (Clark Sisters) "Eddie Cantor"; "Kate Smith"
02-04-1935 - Delaney "Ben" Casey - Asheville, NC - d. 11-20-2007
talk show host: "Community Focus"
02-20-1925 - Robert Altman - Kansas City, MO - d. 11-20-2006
writer: "A Man Called X"
03-01-1906 - Lester Grffith - Illinois - d. 11-20-1991
announcer: "Dan Harding's Wife"; "Candid Microphone"
03-01-1923 - Peggy Chantier Dick - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-20-2001
writer: "Edgar Bergen Comedy Hour"
03-22-1946 - Jonathan James-Moore - d. 11-20-2005
produced comedy series for BBC radio
04-22-1907 - Elmer H. Wavering - Quincy, IL - d. 11-20-1998
inventor: With Bill Lear, invented first commerial car radio (Motorola)
05-22-1925 - James King - d. 11-20-2005
operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
06-12-1893 - Mal Hallett - Boston, MA - d. 11-20-1952
bandleader: "Spotlight Bands"
07-09-1894 - Alan Lipscott - d. 11-20-1961
writer: "The Life of Riley"
08-03-1905 - Gaylord Carter - Wiesbaden, Germany - d. 11-20-2000
organist: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Breakfast in Hollywood"
08-28-1870 - James R. Waters - Hungary - d. 11-20-1945
actor/comedian: Jake Goldberg "The Goldbergs"; "The House of Glass"
09-09-1828 - Leo Tolstoy - Yasnaya, Polyana, Russia - d. 11-20-1910
author: Some works adapted for radio
10-16-1925 - Lee Jordan - d. 11-20-2005
announcer, film critic: WCBS New York
12-18-1913 - Lynn Bari - Roanoke,  VA - d. 11-20-1989
actor: "Dan Carson"
12-27-1916 - Cathy Lewis - Spokane, WA - d. 11-20-1968
actor: Jane Stacy "My Friend Irma"; Kathryn Milford "Great Gildersleeve"

Ron

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:57:03 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 21-27 November

 From Those Were The Days

11/21

1938   WBOE in Cleveland, OH became the first school operated radio
station (owned by a municipality) to receive a license from the FCC.
WBOE went on the air as a 500 watt AM station and later became an FM
station.

1938   The first broadcast of Central City was heard. It was an
adventure mystery show set at the newspaper in, you guessed it, Central
City. Elspeth Eric played the part of crime reporter Emily Olson; and
Van Heflin was crime reporter Bob Shellenberger (later, the part was
played by Myron McCormick). Central City aired until 1941.

1944   "Happy trails to you, until we meet [removed]" The Roy Rogers
Show was first heard on the Mutual Broadcasting System. Singing along
with Roy (The King of the Cowboys'), were the Whippoorwills and The Sons
of the Pioneers.

11/22

1906   Delegates attending the Berlin Radiotelegraphic Conference in
Germany voted to use SOS (...   ...) as the letters for the new
international signal. The international use of "SOS" was ratified in
1908. Its meaning? No, not "Save Our Ship" or "Save Our Souls" as many
believe. Its only meaning was as a distress signal, quick to transmit by
Morse code and not easily misread. It is not an acronym. Incidentally,
how did SOS pads come to use the same initials? They're named after a
patented process, Soap on Steel.

11/23

1929   Shirley Booth and Ed Gardner were married on this day. Miss Booth
was famous for her television acting role ("Hazel"); but we remember
when she and her husband played Miss Duffy and Archie on Duffy's Tavern.

1958   One of the last drama programs on radio debuted. It was unusual
in that it followed the TV show of the same name. Have Gun Will Travel
was broadcast on CBS and starred John Dehner as Paladin.

11/24

1937   Music from the Raymor Ballroom in Boston, Massachusetts was
beamed coast to coast on NBC. The special guests during this broadcast
were Glenn Miller and his orchestra.

11/25

1920   The first play by play coverage of a football game was broadcast
by WTAW in College Station, TX. Texas University beat the Aggies of
Texas A&M, 7 3.

1944   CBS presented The FBI in Peace and War for the first time. It
became one of the longest running crime shows on radio    lasting 14 years.

1945   A spoof of the Gilbert and Sullivan classic, [removed] Pinafore, was
broadcast on The Fred Allen Show. The spoof was titled, The Brooklyn
Pinafore. Joining actress Shirley Booth in the skit was baseball great
Leo 'The Lip' Durocher.

1960   Radio actors were put out of work when CBS axed five serials
(soap operas) from the airwaves. We said so long to The Second Mrs.
Burton (after 14 years), Young Doctor Malone, Whispering Streets (after
8 years), Right to Happiness (after 21 years) and Ma Perkins (after 27
wonderful years.) In 1940, the high point for these radio programs,
there were as many as 45 on the air each day!

11/26

1945   The program, Bride and Groom, debuted on the NBC Blue network. It
is estimated that 1,000 newly wed couples were interviewed on the
program before it left the airwaves in 1950.

11/27

1930   Broadcasting from "...the little theatre off Times Square,"
according to the show's introduction, The First Nighter was first heard.
The program, which actually originated from Chicago, then from
Hollywood, aired for 23 years and featured dramas and comedies.

Joe

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:57:11 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR query for anyone

I went through a written log of sponsors at various radio stations in 1947
for a syndicated radio program and my handicap at reading sloppy handwriting
is starting to show. Does anyone know the correct name of the sponsors listed
below? The names I am listing are spelled to the best of my ability but I
suspect I have them mis-spelled.

Salerec-Kecowan, Co.  (Chicago, Illinois)
Krajure Buick Co.   (Detroit, Michigan)
Race's Dept. Store   (Kansas City, Missouri)
Crite Chevrolet Co.   (Little Rock, Arkansas)
Olo Scar Co.   (Madison, Wisconsin)

Martin
mmargrajr@[removed]

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