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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2009 : Issue 33
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Coca-Cola Spotlight Bands [ Dan Riedstra <[removed]@veriz ]
sound effects [ ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed]; ]
Museums [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Re: Superman Collyer [ Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed]; ]
Being poor -- Superman & Lone Ranger [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
2-11 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Quiet Please! [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@yahoo ]
molly bee [removed] [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
[removed] [ Wich2@[removed] ]
Chester A. Riley [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
2-12 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
The Whistler [ "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl ]
JACK BENNY RADIO TRIBUTE [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:43:33 -0500
From: Dan Riedstra <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Coca-Cola Spotlight Bands
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Barbara Watkins wrote.
A friend has asked me whether these two shows (or portions thereof) exist:
"1942 - The longest, sponsored program in the history of broadcasting
Barbara,
There is one complete 15-minute segment of this 12-hour broadcast in
circulation. It is a 15-minute segment featuring Benny Goodman & Orch
that was scheduled to appear on the 12/25/1942 Spotlight Band broadcast
regardless of the other 11:45 portion of the broadcast that
Coca-Cola titled "Uncle Sam's Christmas Tree". Other than that, I am aware
of fragments of at least three other bands from that broadcast including
Gene Krupa and Freddie Slack.
Dan
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:43:45 -0500
From: ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: sound effects
I have two things here. First is an observation and second a specific
question.
I have found that as the age of a show increases the more diverting the
sound effects tend to be. By that I mean both in quality and how they are
used they can tend to take one's attentionawayfrom
the situation and plot and draw attention to themselves. As the otr radio
era went on this seems to have improved and the diversion became less a
problem.
I have wondered how muchthis had to do with the ear being educated in sound
effects. In early times any effect no matter how rough, for lack of a
better word, was enough and did not divert. But as time went on the
listeners perception was sharpened to effects. I can't think this was all
due to advances in sound effect production.
Here I might mention that the 'powder river' effects are first rate in all
respects, as are in general those of all the other 'imagination theater'
productions. The only possible exception to the latter is that it seems to
my ear someone leans too hard on the reverb effect to suggest large spaces
and/or reflective walls. It draws too much attention to itself as above.
The ear/brain needs only a slight clue and does the rest.
Now the specific question. Auto sound effects were common. There seems to
b a standard recording that was used for acceleration and going through
gears. It was widely used and can be heard on many many shows almost to
the exclusion of other effects it seems to me.
For constant or slight variation inmotor speed and in coming to a stop I
have wondered if there was a machine that was used. When coming to a stop
there is a sudden lowering in frequency of the motor sound and sometimes a
squeak of brakes. The slowing down brings attention to itself because it
is far too short and what is used
as a normal stop would be as presented an emergency stop. Was there a
machine with a control that was used to decrease some constant motor
soundor was it too a recording or set of them
in the control of the effects folk?
XB
IC|XC
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:45:14 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Museums
Mike asked:
Martin, any chance of getting copies of these shows to put *in*
circulation? I know it takes an act of God in dealing with the Library of
Congress but is the Museums you mentioned as stringent?
Answer:
The Museum of TV and Radio is a joke. If you want to get a copy of a
non-circulating radio program from their archives, you would have to do it
illegally. (Please don't any idea of buying one of those three dollar suction
cup microphones to connect to a CD or cassette recorder to do that.)
The museum will not make a copy of anything if you ask them, even if you have
permission from the copyright holder. Their staff there works for the
paycheck, not the museum. They have yet to covert much of anything to digital
format. They have wrong titles and airdates so you have to beware. They have
yet to get their inventory on-line which shows how out of date they are.
True story: About ten years ago I called them and asked them if they could
look on their computer and let me know how many episodes of a TV show they
had in their archive. They told me they do not perform that service over the
phone and that I had to walk in and take a look myself. I hung up and called
twice the same day getting a different person and I got the same answer. With
the third person I pleaded for them to look on the computer and tell me if
they had any episodes at all and he said "yeah, we do have them." So I spent
$100 in travel-train expenses and more in hotel fees to travel up north to
the city, paid them their fee, went in and discovered they only had two
episodes out of the 250 plus that aired.
Three or four years ago I received a letter asking if I could provide a copy
of a radio recording they were seeking for their archives. I wrote back and
told them I did not want to be financially reimbursed for my time and trouble
as they offered, but would do so if they could make a copy of a radio
recording I did not have but wanted. Yes, it was one of the Quiet Please
episodes. I never received a reply.
The Library in College Park I had mentioned, however, has been very
accomodating. I visit there about once a week and they are always willing to
help at the second I request assistance.
Long story short, if you want to get copies of uncirculating shows into
circulation, don't bother with the Museum of TV & Radio.
Martin
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:45:47 -0500
From: Michael Hayde <mikeh0714@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Superman Collyer
from Joe Mackey's Week in Radio History:
1940 Mutual presented the first broadcast of Superman. The identity of
the man from planet Krypton was unknown to listeners for six years. The
secret eventually leaked out that Superman's voice was actually that of
Bud Collyer.
Bill Jaker, commenting on the above: "It's true that the actor who played the
Man of Steel was supposed to be anonymous, but Bud Collyer was on the radio
all the time and it didn't take x-ray vision or the ability to leap tall
buildings at a single bound to realize it was him."
Myths, myths and more [removed] where would OTR research be without them? In
fact, both the VARIETY and BILLBOARD reviews of "Superman" in February 1940
named Collyer as the star. So did a TIME magazine article called "H-O
Superman" in the February 26, 1940 issue.
Collyer's peers knew it was him from the start and so did the public. Maybe
children didn't care one way or another, but Collyer's "Superman" identity
was never a secret one.
Michael
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:46:00 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Being poor -- Superman & Lone Ranger
I was born in 1934 in Lake Andes, SD. My dad was an Episcopalian priest.
We were poor, but we didn't know we were poor. Mother distributed layettes
and clothing to the Indian mothers and their families. Dad visited the sick
at home and in the [removed] in jail.
When we listened to Superman, we did not know the names of the actors. We
didn't NEED to know. That voice WAS Superman. When we listened to the Lone
Ranger, we knew that that voice WAS the Lone Ranger. Nothing else was
important. If Superman or the Lone Ranger told us something, we knew it was
true.
They were our [removed] so was Joe Louis and President Roosevelt. I
wonder if children and young people have any heroes today? Maybe some of
the young people on this Digest can tell us who their heroes are?
Ted Kneebone. 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401. Phone: 605-226-3344.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:46:12 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 2-11 births/deaths
February 11th births
02-11-1882 - John H. Mills - Bellfonte, PA - d. 12-8-1967
singer: (Father of the Mills Brothers) "Mills Brothers Quartette"
02-11-1891 - Paul Ash - Saxony, Germany - d. 7-13-1958
orchestra leader: "The Merry Mad Gang Program"
02-11-1901 - Fritz Blocki - d. 5-14-1972
writer: "Chick Carter, Boy Detective"
02-11-1905 - Liebert Lombardo - London, Canada - d. 6-16-1993
musician: (Guy Lombardo's Orchestra) "Lady Esther Serenade"
02-11-1906 - James Jewell - d. 8-5-1975
writer, actor director: "The Lone Ranger"
02-11-1907 - Art Millet - Chicago, IL - d. 4-9-1943
announcer: "American Album of Familiar Music"; "Popeye"
02-11-1908 - Hiram Sherman - Boston, MA - d. 4-11-1989
actor: "Les Miserables"; "Mercury Theatre on the Aie"
02-11-1908 - Philip Dunne - NYC - d. 6-2-1992
screenwriter, director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-11-1909 - Joseph L. Mankiewicz - Wilkes-Barre, PA - d. 2-5-1993
screenwriter, film director: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
02-11-1909 - Max Baer - Omaha, NE - d. 11-21-1959
heavyweight boxing champion, actor: Lucky Smith "Lucky Smith"
02-11-1916 - Walter Brown Newman - NYC - d. 10-14-1993
writer: "Escape"; "Gunsmoke"; "On Stage"; "Robers of the Gazette"
02-11-1917 - Sidney Sheldon - Chicago, IL - d. 1-30-2007
writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-11-1919 - Eva Gabor - Budapest, Hungary - d. 7-4-1995
disc jockey: "Little Night Music"
02-11-1920 - Billy Halop - NYC - d. 11-9-76
actor: Bobby Benson "Bobby Benson Adventures"; Dick Kent "Home, Sweet
Home"
02-11-1926 - Leslie Nielsen - Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
actor: "Jive Patrol"
February 11th deaths
03-07-1906 - Louis Pelletier - NYC - d. 2-11-2000
writer: "The FBI in Peace and War"
03-13-1898 - Henry Hathaway - Sacramento, CA - d. 2-11-1985
film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
03-20-1908 - Kermit Murdock - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-11-1981
actor: Rod Buchanan "Whisper Men"
03-28-1925 - Jerry Walter - Illinois - d. 2-11-1979
actor: Gil Perry "Island Adventure"
03-29-1889 - Howard Lindsay - Waterford, NY - d. 2-11-1968
writer, host: "The Ford Theatre"
05-02-1904 - J. Anthony Hughes - NYC - d. 2-11-1970
actor: Bob Drake "Betty and Bob"
05-16-1904 - Ruth Coleman Bilchick - d. 2-11-1989
singer and pianist on radio
05-26-1903 - Austin Armer - d. 2-11-1984
flutist: KTAB Oakland, California
05-28-1906 - Phil Regan - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-11-1996
singer: (The Singing Cop) "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"
06-10-1891 - Al Dubin - Zurich, Switzerland - d. 2-11-1945
lyricist: "Mutual-Don Lee Dedicatory Program"
06-16-1903 - Ona Munson - Portland, OR - d. 2-11-1955
actor: Lorelei Kilbourne "Big Town"
07-20-1908 - Jerry Desmonde - Middlesbrough, England - d. 2-11-1967
actor: "Crime Classics"
08-13-1904 - Jonathan Hole - Eldora, IA - d. 2-11-1998
actor: Paul Henderson "Ma Perkins"; Dr. Clifford "Bachelor's Children"
08-21-1927 - Barry Foster - Beeston, England - d. 2-11-2002
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"
09-19-1931 - Ray Danton - NYC - d. 2-11-1992
actor: "Hollywood Radio Theatre"
09-22-1910 - Del Courtney - Oakland, CA - d. 2-11-2006
bandleader: "Kodak Camera Show"
09-27-1920 - William Conrad - Louisville, KY - d. 2-11-1994
actor: Matt Dillon "Gunsmoke"; Louis Dumont "Jason and His Golden
Fleece"
10-10-1899 - Emily Kimbrough - Muncie, IN - d. 2-11-1998
writer: "Information Please"
11-21-1912 - Eleanor Powell - Springfield, MA - d. 2-11-1982
singing tap dancer: "Flying Red Horse Tavern"
11-23-1903 - Victor Jory - Dawson City, AK - d. 2-11-1982
actor: "Matinee Theatre"; "Crisis in War Town"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
11-23-1912 - George O'Hanlon - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-11-1989
actor: Husband "George O'Hanlon Show; Me and Janie"
12-08-1911 - Lee J. Cobb - NYC - d. 2-11-1976
actor: the tailgunner "Roosty of the AAF"; "Citizen of the World";
"Hollywood Startime"
12-25-1888 - David Lawrence - Philadelphia, PA - d. 2-11-1973
journalist, commentator: "Our Government"
Ron
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:47:26 -0500
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Quiet Please!
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Martin, any chance of getting copies of these shows to put *in* circulation?
I know it takes an act of God in dealing with the Library of Congress but is
the Museums you mentioned as stringent?
There is NO chance of getting the Museum of Television and Radio to release
ANYTHING in their collections. That would jeopardize their entire existence
which is based on donations of material without fear it may be copied or
published elsewhere.
I just hope that someday they get around to digitizing their collections.
As I recall, their materials are still stored on some antiquated equivalent of
Betamax tape.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:47:38 -0500
From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: molly bee [removed]
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former teen country western singer molly bee. a singer on the rex allen
radio show, has died at [removed]
ed kienzler springfield illinois
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:48:45 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: [removed]
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
Subject: Quiet Please
What I would love to hear are the episodes in beautiful sound quality.
A consummation devoutly to be wished (eh, Mike [removed])
Hopefully one day someone will take the discs and cleane them up so
they sound much better.
Alas, the story I've heard for years is that the only discs were owned by a
(Chappell's? Cooper's?) widow, that they were transferred rather perfunctorily
to cassette, and then destroyed.
Anyone?
-Craig W.
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:48:51 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Chester A. Riley
What was Chester A. Riley's middle name?
Ron
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:49:00 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 2-12 births/deaths
February 12th births
02-12-1809 - Abraham Lincoln - Hardin County, KY - d. 4-15-1865
[removed] president: Many works on radio dedicated to his life
02-12-1867 - Joe E. Howard - NYC - d. 5-19-1961
singer, composer: "Gay Nineties Revue"
02-12-1880 - John L. Lewis - Lucas, IA - d. 6-11-1969
union leader: "Meet the Press"
02-12-1884 - Alice Roosevelt Longworth - NYC - d. 2-20-1980
daughter of Theodore Roosevelt: "Information, Please"
02-12-1884 - Bessie McCammon - Cincinnati, OH - d. 3-2-1964
actor: Jessie King "Lone Journey"; Olivia McEvoy "Young Widder Brown"
02-12-1888 - Victor Kolar - Budapest, Hungary - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"
02-12-1893 - Omar Bradley - Clark, MO - d. 4-8-1981
general of the army: "What Are We Fighting For?"; "[removed] Campaign"
02-12-1898 - Charles Brendler - d. 7-29-1965
music director: "The Navy Hour"
02-12-1898 - Curt Peterson - Albert Lea, MN - d. 4-23-1980
announcer: "Jones and Hare"; "The Pure Oil Band"
02-12-1898 - Roy Harris - Lincoln County, Oklahoma Territory - d.
10-1-1979
composer: "New York Philharmonic"; "Comtemporary Composers Concerts"
02-12-1898 - Wallace Ford - Batton, England - d. 6-11-1966
actor: "Hollywood on the Air"; "Royal Gelatin Hour"
02-12-1899 - Ray Knight - Salem, MA - d. 2-12-1953
actor: Ambrose J. Weems "Cuckoo Hour"; shopkeeper "House in the Country"
02-12-1902 - Tom Waring - Tyrone, PA - d. 12-29-1960
composer: (Brother of Fred) "The Fred Waring Show"
02-12-1903 - Todd Duncan - Danville, IL - d. 2-28-1998
baritone: "NY Philharmonic Symphony"; "First American Opera"
02-12-1904 - Joseph Kearns - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 2-17-1962
actor, host: Melvyn Foster "A Date with Judy"; Man in Black "Suspense"
02-12-1904 - Ted Mack - Greeley, CO - d. 7-12-1976
emcee: "Original Amateur Hour"
02-12-1905 - Harry Bellaver (Belaver) - Hillsboro, IL - d. 8-8-1993
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
02-12-1910 - Ken Roberts - The Bronx, NY
actor, announcer: Commissioner Weston "The Shadow"; "Easy Aces"
02-12-1912 - Kylie Tennant - Manly, Australia - d. 2-29-1988
writer: "Tether a Dragon"
02-12-1912 - Stan Kenton - Wichita, KS - d. 8-25-1979
bandleader: "Bob Hope Show"; "Stan Kenton Concerts"
02-12-1914 - Tex Beneke - Fort Worth, TX - d. 5-30-2000
tenor sax, singer, bandleader: "Glenn Miller and His Orchestra";
"Sunset Serenade"
02-12-1915 - Lorne Greene - Ottowa, Canada - d. 9-11-1987
host Western Night: "Sears Radio Theatre"
02-12-1916 - Max Geldray - Amsterdam, Netherlands - d. 12-5-2004
vocalist: "The Goon Show"
02-12-1919 - Forrest Tucker - Plainfield, IN - d. 10-25-1986
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-12-1920 - Shirley Yamaguchi - Manchuria, China
actor: "New Edgar Bergen Hour"; "Geroge Fisher Interviews the Stars"
02-12-1923 - Mel Powell - NYC - d. 4-24-1998
pianist, composer: "Jam"; "I Sustain These Wings"; "Grand Roundup"
02-12-1926 - Joe Garagiola - St. Louis, MO
sportscaster
02-12-1927 - Ann Gillis - Little Rock, AR
actor: Judy Foster "A Date with Judy"
02-12-1927 - Bobby Winkler - Chicago, IL - d. 12-28-1989
actor: Newsboy "Big Town"
02-12-1928 - William Edward Olvis - Hollywood, CA - d. 11-27-1998
opera singer: "Metropolitan Opera"
02-12-1929 - Diana Olsson - London, England - d. 10-11-2003
actor: "Phillip O'Dell Mysteries"; "Doomsday Book"
February 12th deaths
01-01-1904 - Lou Kosloff - Chicago, IL - d. 2-12-1986
orchestra leader: "Blondie"; "Sad Sack"; "Sherlock Holmes"
01-14-1896 - Seymour Simons - Detroit, MI - d. 2-12-1949
orchestra leader: "Romantic Rhythm"
01-16-1916 - Joe McMichael - Minneapolis, MN - d. 2-12-1944
singer: (The Merry Macs) "Bing Crosby Show"; "Fred Allen Show"
01-17-1905 - Peggy Gilbert - Sioux City, IA - d. 2-12-2007
saxophonist: "The Early Girls and the Three Chirps"
02-07-1883 - Eubie Blake - Baltimore, MD - d. 2-12-1983
jazz pianist: "Ragtime"; "White House Jazz Festival"
02-12-1899 - Ray Knight - Salem, MA - d. 2-12-1953
actor: Ambrose J. Weems "Cuckoo Hour"; shopkeeper "House in the Country"
02-14-1931 - Brian Kelly - Detroit, MI - d. 2-12-2005
actor: Started career doing radio commercials in Detroit
02-22-1922 - Newt Arnold - Palo Alto, CA - d. 2-12-2000
actor: "Railroad Hour"; "This Is Your FBI"
03-04-1896 - George Shelton - NYC - d. 2-12-1972
comedian: "Sunday Night Party"; "It Pays to Be Ignorant"
04-19-1888 - William Axt - d. 2-12-1959
musical director: "Major Bowes Capitol Family Program"
04-21-1905 - Ted Osborne - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 2-12-1987
actor: Dr. Carough "Dr. Kildare"; Professor Whiz the Owl "Cinnamon Bear"
04-23-1884 - Edwin C. Hill - Aurora, IN - d. 2-12-1957
news commentator: "Human Side of the News"; "Your News Parade"
04-28-1874 - Sidney Toler - Warrensburg, MO - d. 2-12-1947
actor: "Southern California WPA Symphony Orchestra"; "It's Time to
Smile"
05-07-1921 - Gale Robbins - Chicago, IL - d. 2-12-1980
singer: "Ben Bernie, the Old Maestro"; "The Hoagy Carmichael Show"
06-25-1898 - Jack Roth - d. 2-12-1980
drummer: (Memphis Five) "The Jimmy Durante Show"
06-28-1895 - George R. Holmes - Tippecanoe County, IN - d. 2-12-1939
news commentator: "Back of the News in Washington"
07-22-1903 - Betty Roland - Kaniva, Australia - d. 2-12-1996
writer: "New Day"
10-13-1917 - Lou Cook - d. 2-12-1993
host: "Religion on the Line"
11-09-1906 - Muggsy Spanier - Chicago, IL - d. 2-12-1967
cornet: "This Is Jazz"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concerts"
12-02-1913 - Morton Wishengrad - d. 2-12-1963
writer: "The Cavalcade of America"; "The Eternal Light"
xx-xx-1925 - Richard Thorne - Chicago, IL - d. 2-12-2007
announcer, producer, director: "Hall of Fantasy"
Ron
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:49:51 -0500
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Whistler
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When will we get a listing of all Whistler programs
or a book on this wonderful OTR show?
It is one of my three favorite radio shows.
Harry Machin, Jr.
harbev5@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:18:56 -0500
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: JACK BENNY RADIO TRIBUTE
This Saturday Night , February 14, 2009
6- Hour Jack Benny Tribute
10:30 pm Eastern
7:30 pm Pacific Time
Hear many of the best Jack Benny radio shows including Jack's appearances
on other radio shows interspersed with a mix of interviews - Laura Leff of
the
International Jack Benny Fan Club, Joan Benny, Beverly Washburn, Stewart
Canin and more.
Live on the internet at [removed].
Old Time Radio all the time!
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