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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 322
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  laraine day [removed]              [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
  News about several frights            [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Re: Gildersleeve movies               [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
  Re: Armistice Day Broadcast           [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  Re: Empire Builders Armistice Day     [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  11-14 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  public reaction to War of the Worlds  [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
  Re: Empire Builders                   [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Jim Hawthorne website                 [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:48:17 -0500
From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  laraine day [removed]
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Actress Laraine Day, who along with former husband Leo Durocher hosted the
radio program "Double Play with Durocher and Day" in the 1950's, passed away
in
 Ivins, Utah Saturday at age [removed] believe she was in some "Lux Radio
Theatre"  episodes [removed] kienzler II springfield  [removed]

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:10:26 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  News about several frights
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Dear Folks-

I assisted our Berlin lister, radio journalist Christian Blees, in
interviewing WOTW survivor Bill Herz yesterday. He had some interesting
things  to say
- some of which disagreed with some facts recently mulled over here. If
Christian permits, I'll elaborate a bit [removed]

Also - with thanks for the kind words from many of you about my work at
FOTR, and in Quicksilver Radio Theater shows, here's proof that I'm not just
a
disembodied voice!

_[removed]_ ([removed])

 A screening of a new short film, THE DEVIL YOU KNOW, in a venue  I know some
of you cross-genre, NY-area, folks attend.

Best,
-Craig "Your Little Devil" Wichman

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:56:53 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Gildersleeve movies

Just a reminder. Turner Classic Movies will be  airing three Gildersleeve
movies, back to back, on Nov. 20th, 2007, beginning at  3 PM EST.

Charlie

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:51:54 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Armistice Day Broadcast

The broadcast to which [removed] King refers and Charlie ponders:

Is it possible the Armistice Day episode to which the articles refer is
_not_ the surviving "Armistice Day Reunion" program?

Not that I want to add to confusion and admittedly have not done as much
research as needs to be done on this program, but two things:

I have never been able to find where the Empire Builders was broadcast
on November 30th, 1930 (Elizabeth's date - she'll have to provide her own
source for that)  unless it was some kind of pre-broadcast. Empire Builders
was broadcasts on Mondays, not Sundays, which is that Nov 30th date.

All research I have done indicate for December 1st was a different story
involving a senorita and a Westerner. All I have found for the Armistice day
broadcast are the same as [removed] King's. Though the caveat is that newspapers
can be wrong as we all know.

But unless there is strong indication on those who suggested the other dates,
I would vote for Mr King's research on this one.

Jim Widner

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:28:40 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Empire Builders Armistice Day

On 11/13/07 4:13 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

  Is it possible the Armistice Day episode to which the articles refer is
_not_ the surviving "Armistice Day Reunion" program?

November 10 is indeed the correct date -- I've actually had that
information for quite a while, but updating my website is at the bottom
of my priority list these days due to personal circumstances, so it may
be a while, if ever, before that's adjusted.

Elizabeth

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:30:04 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-14 births/deaths

November 14th births

11-14-1881 - Clayton Hamilton - NYC - d. 9-17-1946
writer: "Radio Guild"; "Great Playe"; "Brownstone Theatre"
11-14-1894 - James Van Dyk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-17-1951
actor: Clyde Houston "Lora Lawton"; Dick Phillips "Rosemary"
11-14-1900 - Aaron Copland - NYC - d. 12-2-1990
composer: "Document A/777"
11-14-1901 - Morton Downey - Wallingford, CT  - d. 10-25-1985
singer: (The Irish Thrush), "Morton Downey Show"; "Songs by Morton
Downey"
11-14-1904 - Art Hodes - Nikoliev, Russia - d. 3-4-1993
jazz pianist: "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"; "This Is Jazz"; "WNYC
Jazz Festival"
11-14-1904 - Dick Powell - Mountain. View, AR - d. 1-2-1963
actor: Richard Diamond "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"; Richard
Rogue "Rogue's Gallery"
11-14-1905 - Wilbur "Budd" Hulick - Asbury Park, NJ - d. 3-xx-1961
comedian: "Stoopnagle and Budd"; Mortimer Meek "Meet Mr. Meek"
11-14-1906 - Mercer McCloud - d. 1-20-1993
actor: Fran Cummings "Second Husband"
11-14-1908 - Joseph McCarthy - Appleton, WI - d. 5-2-1957
despotic senator: "Meet the Press"
11-14-1910 - Rosemary De Camp - Prescott, Arizona Territory - d.
2-20-2001
actor: Nurse Judy Price, "Dr. Christian"
11-14-1913 - George Smathers - Atlantic City, NJ - d. 1-20-2007
[removed] senator from florida: "Meet the Press"
11-14-1914 - Haila Stoddard - Great Falls, MT
actor: Sue Evans Miller "Big Sister"
11-14-1914 - Ken Carson - Colgate, OK - d. 4-7-1994
singer: (Lustre Cream Shampoo commercial) "Day in the Life of Dennis
Day"
11-14-1915 - Billy Bauer - The Bronx, NY - d. 6-17-2005
jazz guitarist: "Band for Bonds"
11-14-1915 - Martha Tilton - Corpus Christi, TX - d. 12-8-2006
singer: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Curt Massey-Martha Tilton Program"
11-14-1916 - Sherwood Schwartz - Passaic, NJ
writer: "The Bob Hope Show"; "The Great Gildersleeve"
11-14-1919 - Veronica Lake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-7-1973
actor: "Exploring the Unknown"; "Request Performance"
11-14-1920 - Irving Ravetch - Newark, NJ
writer, adapter: "Escape"
11-14-1920 - Johnny Desmond - Detroit, MI - d. 9-6-1985
singer: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Songs for Sale"
11-14-1924 - Phyllis Avery - NYC
actor: Peggy McNutley "Meet Mr. McNutley"
11-14-1951 - Sandahl Bergman - Kansas City, MO

November 14th deaths

01-01-1915 - Earl Sheldon - NYC - d. 11-14-1977
orchestra leader: "The Bickersons"; "Jack Smith Show"
01-22-1935 - Dave Holland - Raleigh, NC - d. 11-14-2005
author: "From Out of the Past: A Pictorial History of the Lone Ranger"
01-26-1907 - Eddie Ballentine - Chicago, IL - d. 11-14-1995
orchestra leader: "Don McNeill's Breakfast Club"
01-26-1907 - Edward D. Ballantine - Chicago, IL - d. 11-14-1995
conductor: "Breakfast Club"
02-04-1889 - Walter Catlett - San Francisco, Ca - d. 11-14-1960
actor: "This Is Your [removed]"; "Escape"; "Campbell Playhouse"
02-07-1915 - Eddie Bracken - Astoria, NY - d. 11-14-2002
comedian: "Eddie Bracken Show"; Dizzy Stevens "Aldrich Family"
02-14-1916 - Eddie Arcaro - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-14-1997
jockey: "Pabst Blue Ribbon Sport of Kings"; "Tops In Sports"
02-27-1894 - Upton Close - Kelso, WA - d. 11-14-1960
commentator: "Events and Trends of the Week"; "Close-Ups of the :News"
04-04-1896 - Robert Sherwood - New Rochelle, NY - d. 11-14-1955
playwright: "Free Company"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Screen Guild
Theatre"
04-08-1916 - Carl Cotner - Indiana - d. 11-14-1986
steel guitar: "Gene Aurty's Melody Ranch"
05-19-1870 - Wright Kramer - Somerville, MA - d. 11-14-1941
actor: Walter Jamison "Showboat"
05-24-1915 - Harvey Bacal - Quebec, Canada - d. 11-14-1993
musical director and arranger
05-28-1912 - Violet Dunn - d. 11-14-1982
actor: Peggy O'Neill "The O'Neill's"
09-01-1904 - Johnny Mack Brown - Dothan, AL - d. 11-14-1974
actor: "Straight Arrow Pow Wow"
10-02-1911 - Jack Finney - Milwaukee, WI - d. 11-14-1995
writer: "Cloud Nine"
10-15-1908 - Robert Trout - Wake Country, NC - d. 11-14-2000
commentator: "Headlines & Bylines"; "Robert Trout with the News Til Now"
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
xx-xx-1868 - Mrs. Belloc Lowndes - London, England - d. 11-14-1947
author: "An Unrecorded Instance"
xx-xx-1874 - Floyd Buckley - d. 11-14-1956
actor: Popeye: "Popeye the Sailor"
xx-xx-xxxx - Billy Beard - d. 11-14-1954
singer: (Raybestos Twins) "Eddie Cantor Show"; Al Jolson Show"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:30:30 -0500
From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  public reaction to War of the Worlds

I enjoyed reading Bob Jennings' account of what was going on the night of
October 30, 1938 at the University of Tennessee dorms regarding what the
radio was tuned to in the men's and women's dorms and the reaction to the
WOTW broadcast on CBS.

I also asked my mother about this quite a few years ago.  She was 16 at the
time, living in Madison, Wisconsin.  I asked if she had heard the famous
Orson Welles broadcast of War of the Worlds.  She said no. Because  it was a
Sunday night, she always listened to Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy on
NBC.  She too did not learn about all the commotion caused by the CBS
broadcast, which was on at the same time, until she read about it in the
paper the next day.

Jim Hilliker
Monterey, CA

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:43:17 -0500
From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Empire Builders

Charlie asks about conflicting dates for EB's Armistice Day episode.

Elizabeth McLeod lists an episode for 30 November 1930, a Sunday, but
the series aired on Monday nights at that time so there would have
been no show on that date. Jerry Haendiges says 1 December 1930 but a
love story set in California was scheduled for that date, according to
newspapers I've looked at. And it just doesn't seem likely anyone
would broadcast an Armistice Day story almost three weeks after the
holiday.

The newspapers (my only source, I'm afraid, so take it with a grain of
salt) all say the episode was scheduled for 10 November 1930, the
night before Armistice Day. For example, the 8 November Lincoln Star
gives the title of the next Empire Builders as "The First Armistice
Day"; the 10 November Edwardsville Intelligencer says that "... A
story of the first Armistice Day in France by one who was there when
it happened will be dramatized in the Empire Builders episode at 9:30
P. M. over KWK. ..."; the 8 November Christian Science Monitor says
the next episode will be "... What happened in France the day the
Armistice was signed. ..." And so on. Those descriptions match the
surviving episode. Obviously, it's entirely possible that the papers
are wrong (which happened pretty often; see below) and the show aired
on another date -- but 10 November seems like the logical one.

Most of Jerry's and Elizabeth's other dates for the surviving shows
jibe with the newspapers. Here's what little info I have on the other
episodes (plus some guesswork):

1. The title of the 22 December 1930 Christmas episode was given as
"Attar of Roses" and the story (described as a "holiday story on the
Scrooge theme") was by one of the winners of a Great
Northern-sponsored radio writing contest.

2. I have no info on the 29 December 1930 New Year's Eve episode.

3. The 5 January 1931 episode was scheduled to be another contest
winner, "The Romance of Old Fort Union," but, presumably, this was
pre-empted by the propaganda play about Bert the businessman and the
abandoned baby. (Later that year, when EB was rebroadcasting some old
scripts, an episode with the title "The Billion Dollar Baby" was
scheduled. I wonder if that might have been a rebroadcast of the same
play. The title seems to match the plot of the surviving episode. Just
a wild guess on my part.)

4. The 12 January 1931 episode was scheduled to be about the "Second
anniversary of [the] opening of Cascade Tunnel" but was pre-empted (as
explained in the episode) by the story about the railroad telegrapher
who falls into a coma.

5. The 19 January 1931 episode was scheduled to include 'Thrills and
surprises encountered by a movie company on "location"' which sort of
matches the content of the surviving episode, although not exactly.
Maybe they meant to write "movie cowboy."

6. The 26 January 1931 episode was scheduled to be "La Mariposa" --
"an incident in the life of Joaquin Murrieta" (which certainly matches
the content of the surviving episode) and was another contest entry,
"the prize-winning story of Emilia Clapham of Berkeley" ...

7. I have no info on the 2 February 1931 episode that features a play
about James J. Hill used on the series' premiere. But I want to
mention that Jerry's log is in error. It says that EB debuted on 30
September 1929 but this was actually the second season premiere, not
the series premiere. The 30 September 1929 episode was scheduled to be
"the story of a young Easterner whose faith in the West determined the
location of a branch factory of a large, Eastern company" -- which
doesn't match the surviving show.

If you don't count the Great Northern's Cascade Tunnel inaugural
ceremony broadcast on 12 January 1929, EB actually began two nights
later on 14 January 1929 (and was off the air during the summers of
1929 and '30, contrary to Jerry's log). According to a radio
columnist, the 14 January 1929 premiere featured "the story of James
Hill, the Ontario boy who through the influence of a kindly English
Quaker was inspired with a vision of the future of the Northwest which
resulted in his building of this railroad." So I'm guessing that the
play in the surviving 2 February 1931 episode was first broadcast on
the 14 January 1929 series premiere.

8. The 26 February 1931 episode was scheduled to be "Ghost Towns" and
concerns "the tragic romance of a dance hall girl and an outlaw" in
Montana -- another match.

Sources for all of the above are buried on a big ol' page of EB
clippings here:

[removed]

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:12:01 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:39:38 -0500
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jim Hawthorne website

As a native New Yawker, I had never had the Californian pleasure of
listening to Jim Hawthorne.  So when Larry Gassman posted his obit last week
and there were several interesting reply postings I was interested but still
didn't understand his place in radio.  It just got answered.  Over on the
78-L we had a posting yesterday from a Andrea Walsh, who as a collector of
comedy records had become a friend of Hawthornes.  She has posted a nicely
illustrated page that includes sound and pictures of all of his 78 records
and some early airchecks from the late 40s.
[removed]  Interesting stuff.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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