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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2010 : Issue 116
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Teeny                                 [ <radioaz@[removed]; ]
  6-30 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Propaganda during the war         [ Matthew Reed <mkr@matthewsworkbench ]
  Radio Traitors in WW II               [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Propaganda During the War             [ <georgewagner@[removed]; ]
  radio propaganda during World War II  [ "khovard@[removed]" <khovard@[removed] ]
  radio propaganda WW2                  [ Michael Berger <[removed]@yaho ]
  Re: Propaganda during the war         [ alo <alo@[removed]; ]
  Rudy Blesh This Is Jazz               [ <sojaq2@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:12:01 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

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Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:03:08 -0400
From: <radioaz@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Teeny

And there was the episode (I think around Christmas) where we learned that
Teeny's name was Elizabeth.

Ted

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:04:38 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-30 births/deaths

June 30th births

06-30-1879 - Walter Hampden - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-11-1955
actor: Leonidas Witherall "Leonidas Witherall"
06-30-1891 - Man Mountain Dean - NYC - d. 5-29-1953
professional wrestler: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
06-30-1893 - Virginia Beberus - Mercer, ME - d. 10-3-1964
composer/author: conducted a radio program
06-30-1894 - Frank Davis - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-9-1970
singer: "Fred Waring Show"
06-30-1894 - Phillips Carlin - NYC - d. 8-27-1971
announcer: "Palmolive Hour"; "Atwater Kent Hour"
06-30-1896 - Wilfred Pelletier - Montreal, Canada - d. 4-9-1982
conductor: "Roses and Drums"; "Metropolitan Opera Auditions of the Air"
06-30-1898 - Carl Pierce - Quincy, MA - d. 8-16-1962
announcer: "Breakfast at Sardi's"; "The Right Thing to Do"
06-30-1898 - George Chandler - Waukegan, IL - d. 6-10-1985
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
06-30-1899 - Santos Ortega - NYC - d. 4-10-1976
actor: Nero Wolfe "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; Richard Queen "Advs. of
Ellery Queen"
06-30-1900 - Frank Gallop - Boston, MA - d. 5-17-1988
announcer: "Milton Berle Show"; "Gangbusters"; "Stella Dallas"
06-30-1904 - Glenda Farrell - Enid,  Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-1-1971
opposing pitcher: "Quizzer's Baseball"
06-30-1905 - Nestor Paiva - Fresno, CA - d. 9-9-1966
actor: "NBC Presents: Short Story"; "Escape"
06-30-1910 - Sundra Love - Chicago, IL - d. 12-6-1996
actor: Kay Fairchild "Stepmother"; Ethel Foster "Guiding Light"
06-30-1913 - Harry Wismer - Port Huron, MI - d. 12-3-1967
sportscaster: "Harry Wismer Sports Show"; "Champion Roll Call"
06-30-1917 - Buddy Rich - NYC - d. 4-2-1987
drummer: "Artie Shaw and His Orchestra"; "Tommy Dorsey and His
Orchestra"
06-30-1917 - Lena Horne - Brooklyn, NY - d. 5-9-2010
singer: "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"
06-30-1917 - Susan Hayward - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-14-1975
actor: "Radio Almanac"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
06-30-1918 - Stewart Foster - Binghamton, NY - d. 2-7-1968
singer: "Stewart Foster Show"; "Galen Drake"; "On a Sunday Afternoon"
06-30-1920 - Dean Harens - South Bend, IN - d. 5-20-1996
actor: Arthur Anderson "We, the Abbotts"
06-30-1925 - Alice Wallace - Los Angeles, CA - d. 2-23-2002
actor: "Music for America"; "Let Freedom Sing"
06-30-1928 - Frank Marcus - Breslau, Germany - d. 8-5-1996
playwright: "The Hospital Visitor"
06-30-1957 - Carol Boettcher - Milwaukee, WI
actor: Billie "Billie the Brownie"

June 30th deaths

02-20-1906 - Gale Gordon - NYC - d. 6-30-1995
actor: Mayor LaTrivia "Fibber McGee and Molly"; Osgood Conklin "Our
Miss Brooks"
03-30-1926 - Bill Farrell - Cleveland, OH - d. 6-30-2007
singer: "Bob Hope Show"
05-04-1903 - Elmer Leyden - Davenport, IA - d. 6-30-1973
football player: "One of the Four Horseman" "Information Please"
05-18-1904 - Fred Shields - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-30-1974
actor: Bill Fraser "Tarzan"
05-29-1909 - Oliver Wakefield - Mahlabitini, South Africa - d. 6-30-1956
comedian: "The Chesterfield Program"; "Fox Fur Trappers"
06-20-1905 - Lillian Hellman - New Orleans, LA - d. 6-30-1984
author: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
06-20-1924 - Chet Atkins - Luttrell, TN - d. 6-30-2001
guitarist: "Boone County Neighbors"; "Grand Ole Opry"
06-23-1905 - Mary Livingstone (Sadye Marks) - Seattle, WA - d. 6-30-1983
comedian: (wife of Jack Benny) "Jack Benny Program"
07-26-1906 - Galen Drake - Kokomo, IN - d. 6-30-1989
commentator: "Galen Drake"
08-26-1873 - Lee De Forest - Council Bluffs, IA - d. 6-30-1961
inventor: Audion tube
09-23-1901 - Frederick Hazlitt Brennan - d. 6-30-1962
writer: "Shorty Bell" based on Brennan's stories
09-26-1921 - Russ Atwood - d. 6-30-1992
disk jockey: WMAS Springfield, Massachusetts
10-02-1928 - George 'Spanky' McFarland - Dallas, TX - d. 6-30-1993
actor: "Thirty Minutes In Hollywood"
10-10-1920 - Bernard Grant - The Bronx - d. 6-30-2004
actor: "Rober Kilgore"; "Big Story"

Ron

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:05:06 -0400
From: Matthew Reed <mkr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Propaganda during the war

Kenneth Clarke wrote:

        I know that, especially during WW I&  II, there were people spouting
their individual factions propaganda over the airwaves.  As far as I know
(and have been told) there were only only two people doing this: one of them
was Tokyo Rose (for the Japanese) and the other was Axis Sally. Somehow,
I think there were more propagandists than just these two.  If so, who were
they?
Did we (the Allies) have our own version of a propagandist who stood for the
US during the war?

There were indeed far more than those two propaganda broadcasts.
Jonathan Marks did some excellent programs about radio history on the
Media Network show on Radio Netherlands back in the 1990's. Many of
those shows are available for listening on his web site:
Wartime Deception Part 1:
<[removed];
Wartime Deception Part 2:
<[removed];
Search for Tokyo Rose:
<[removed];

These shows cover World War II propaganda broadcasting in quite a bit of
detail.

--
Matthew Reed
[removed]
mkr@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:05:11 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Traitors in WW II

Kenneth Clarke mentions "Tokyo Rose" and "Axis Sally" as two of the
radio renegades who spouted Axis propaganda during the second world
war and asks if there were any more doing this at the microphone.

Actually, there were [removed]

In July 1943, federal indictments were issued against ten Americans
who had broadcast for the Germans or the Japanese, including Douglas
Chandler, Robert Henry Best, Fred Kaltenbach, Edward DeLaney, Jean
Anderson, Ezra Pound, Constance Drexel, Max Koischwitz, in addition
to Mildred Gillars, who was "Axis Sally" and Iva d'Aquino.  Although
at least five English speaking women broadcast in behalf of the
Japanese, d'Aquino was the only one charged as "Tokyo Rose"....and
although she was innocent, she was convicted of treason. Also found
guilty in American courts were Gillars, Chandler and Best, who went
to federal prison.  All were eventually released, except Best who
died in prison in 1952.

The others had different endings. Kaltenbach died in a Russian prison
camp and Koischwitz died in Germany. Indictments were eventually
dismissed against Delaney, Drexel, and Anderson. The latter
presumably died in Europe.

Pound broadcast for the Axis powers from Italy, as did Rita Zucca.
She later renounced her [removed], citizenship and remained in Italy. Pound
was captured in Italy, but in the [removed] got himself declared unfit for
trial and went to a federal hospital until released in 1958. He
returned to Italy and died there in 1972.

But many more were engaged in this practice who were never fully
identified or prosecuted. The April 1943 issue of Cosmopolitan,
entitled "Short Wave Trailors," set forth several Americans who
broadcast for the Axis in the radio studios of Hong Kong and/or
Shanghai. They were a collection of former missionaries, ex-service
men, publicity seekers, and malcontents, including: Herbert Moy,
Robert Chisholm, George Curtis Bruce, Carl Flick-Steger, Dr. Francis
Roscoe, Gerhard Spengling, Frances Hopkins, and Thomas Butler.

For a summary of the injustice of the case against d'Aquino, read my
article on "Tokyo Rose: American Patriot." See:
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Jack French
Editor, RADIO RECALL

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:05:27 -0400
From: <georgewagner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Propaganda During the War

Kenneth, there were dozens of such broadcasters.

       The ones which come first to mind were "Lord Ha-Ha" (William Joyce),
Paul Revere (!) (Douglas Chandler) and Robert Best.

       Joyce was executed for treason against the British Crown immediately
after the War. While I have no truck at  all with Joyce's political views
(I'd prefer to call them CRIMINAL views), I've always found his execution at
best extralegal, since he wasn't a British subject. He was, in fact, a United
States citizen, having been born in Boston, Mass. (Still, it wasn't much of a
loss.)

        Best had ironically enough been dean of American journalists in
Europe before throwing his lot in with Hitler. He was a severe alcoholic,
which may explain a little of it, and he seems to have been in a sexual
thrall to a female Nazi.

        And the great American poet (there seems to be no denying that one)
Ezra Pound broadcast for Mussolini.

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:06:02 -0400
From: "khovard@[removed]" <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  radio propaganda during World War II

Kenneth Clarke wrote,

Somehow,I think there were more propagandists than just these two.  If so,
who were they? Did we (the Allies) have our own version of a propagandist
who stood for the US during the war?

As discussed in my book, WORDS AT WAR, The US had an Office of War
Information which put out tons of radio and other propaganda. And the BBC put
out plenty of their own. But we didn't have anyone who played an equivalent
role to that of Tokyo Rose [removed]

Howard Blue

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:06:11 -0400
From: Michael Berger <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  radio propaganda WW2

One correction: Tokyo Rose wasn't a solitary voice; there were several
broadcasting on Radio Tokyo. Iva Toguri was unlucky to be identified as THE
voice. Most of the existing recorded content was what might be called 'soft'
propaganda, playing tunes that might make the GIs nostalgic for home, etc.

By comparison, the broadcasts of Axis Sally and the infamous Lord Haw Haw
[William Joyce, an Irishman] were filled with vicious commentaries.

Michael Berger

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:07:49 -0400
From: alo <alo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Propaganda during the war

On 6/29/2010 6:18 PM, "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed]; wrote:

        I know that, especially during WW I&  II, there were people spouting
their individual factions propaganda over the airwaves.  As far as I know
(and have been told) there were only only two people doing this: one of them
was Tokyo Rose (for the Japanese) and the other was Axis Sally. Somehow,
I think there were more propagandists than just these two.  If so, who were
they?

You might have a search for "Lord Haw Haw."

Did we (the Allies) have our own version of a propagandist who stood for the
US during the war?

Propaganda comes in all shapes & sizes. It's all about twisting things
to evoke a certain response. The posters created during wartime
featuring the most lurid caricatures of Japanese, for instance, is a
form of propaganda. It's something that's been used to varying degrees
of advantage down through the ages & will probably not cease any time soon.

Amanda

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:08:07 -0400
From: <sojaq2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rudy Blesh This Is Jazz

In answer to the question a few days ago about how to obtain an mp-3
broadcast of Rudy Blesh This Is Jazz.  After a 30 second search in Amazon I
found vol 1 and vol 2. Roger Smith in COOL Michigan.

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