Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #225
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Date: 8/19/2006 10:18 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 225
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Live - and In Color!                  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Re: Faulty Memories                   [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Orson Welles                          [ "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed]. ]
  Help for Gunsmoke episode             [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
  Ranger myth                           [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  Re: What Jack Benny Actually Said     [ "Bill Harris" <nbcblue@[removed]; ]
  8-19 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Your Money Or Your Life               [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  The Lone Ranger                       [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK - Podcast     [ "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@c ]

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:12:22 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Live - and In Color!

From: "Gareth Tilley" _tilleygareth@[removed]_
(mailto:tilleygareth@[removed])

...fans  of British OTR may like to know that the BBC has recreated an early
Paul  Temple series from 1947 (the Sullivan Mystery) from the original
scripts.  It's currently being broadcast on Mondays at 11:30 ...

Dear Gareth-

...And, that mystery scholar/seasoned director Bill Nadel will be  recreating
an episode live at this year's FOTR.

Co-starring, as the Temples, fan-fave Corinne Orr, and -

Yours truly,
-Craig Wichman

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:38:35 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Faulty Memories

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:12:27, Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; wrote:
I didn't think that Jack Webb starred in the tv version of Pete
Kelly's Blues. He DIRECTED  it and William
Reynolds starred as Kelly. Not sure how you saw him and thought
this was Joe  Friday. It was only one
season, so unless there was another tv version, it would have been
difficult to see him.

That's why I added the disclaimer about my memory being suspect.
After all, I was a kid and it's been over 40 years. I could have done
a websearch, of course, but I sometimes just post; I'm curious as to
the ways memory becomes distorted over time and the ways in which
false memories are implanted. Since I'd never heard of the radio show
or movie until this thread started (as best I can remember), and
thought this had ONLY been a television show, I wonder why I would
have associated Jack Webb with the show at all. I'm sure I wasn't
interested in directors at that age. If it was a Mark VII production,
perhaps the hammer and steel stamp at the end made me think of Webb.
Or perhaps I spontaneously overlaid the lead actor (whom I don't
remember at all) with Webb when I read of his connection here. That
would suggest that "false memories" can be created instantaneously,
in addition to being formed over time.

At any rate, I've no doubt that all my memories of OTR are distorted
through the filter of my memory. But that's okay with me; these are,
after all, MY memories, and who has a  better right to alter them. No
doubt I recall the heroes of the adventure shows as looking much more
like my imagined future self than the photos that sometimes appeared
on the radio log page in the newspaper. In that instance, I do
believe my memory is more accurate than photographs of the stars.
Even if I don't really look very much like that future me.

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:15:06 -0400
From: "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Orson Welles

Re the question about Orson Welles, I do have a BBC Transcription which I
think I have mentioned here before.

It is a Michael Parkinson interview of Orson Welles.  The series is just
named " The Parkinson Interview" and this is number 2 in the series.

The interview runs for 27 minutes and within it there are 4 self-contained
short sections which were intended to be used as Magazine items according to
the continuity sheets included with the Transcription.  The continuity
sheets also contain brief descriptions of what was discussed in the 4 sub
sections etc.

1. Great actors of stage and screen, and not-so-great directors [removed]
2. Hollywood at the end of the great romantic era - Parties and fights -
David Selznick on Olivier, and Welles on Selznick [removed]
3. Writers and Hollywood - Scott Fitzgerald and others [removed]
4. Moguls, Meglamaniacs and Monsters [removed]

There is no date on the disc but in true BBC style it does have the expiry
date in June 1976 so I am assuming June 1956.

Ian Grieve

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:15:30 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Help for Gunsmoke episode

An open letter to the readers of The OTR Digest.

The response to my plea for help was fantastic. Thank you to all. I have had
the "GUNSMOKE" episode for about 20 or 25 years. Every so often I would
listen to show and then go through the logs looking for clues for a title
and a date. If you read my opening lines the story is about a guy who lost 2
wives. How the heck did they come up with "Fingered"???  Don't answer me,
anything would be conjecture. I still would looking if it weren't for OTR
Digest readers. Every answer I got was the same "Fingered" #31 date
11/21/1952. I am a happy old man. Also learned of some new otr log web sites
I didn't know about.  Thanks to all.

Frank McGurn

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:15:52 -0400
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ranger myth
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Cynthia Heimsoth made some good observations about whether the character of
The Lone Ranger was culpable for hiding his identity rather than returning to
the Texas Rangers to hunt down the gang that ambushed his patrol.  But
Cynthia, the Ranger never had a first name.  Thanks to two gentlemen named
Buxton and Owens, who published a book called, "The Big Broadcast" in 1966,
many people now believe that Ranger Captain Dan Reid's brother was named John.
THIS IS NOT TRUE.  Fran Striker insisted all during his lifetime that his
character did not have a first name, and he never gave him one.
This just goes to show if you repeat a myth often enough, it becomes truth.

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:01:57 -0400
From: "Bill Harris" <nbcblue@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: What Jack Benny Actually Said

This is what is on my tape, were there different versions?

Robber - "Hay [removed]
Jack - "Huh?"
Robber - "You gotta match?"
Jack - "[removed] I have on right here."
Robber "Don't make a move, this is a stickup"
Jack - "Mr, put down that gun"
Robber - "Shutup, I said this is a stickup, now come on, your money or you
life"
Pause then audience laughter
Robber - "LOOK BUD, I SAID YOUR MONEY OR YOUR LIFE!"
Pause then audience laughter
Jack - "I'M THINKING IT OVER!"

Bill H.

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:02:03 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-19 births/deaths

August 19th births

08-19-1870 - Bernard Baruch - Camden, SC - d. 6-20-1965
guest: "Tex and Jinx"
08-19-1902 - Colleen Moore - Port Huron, MI - d. 1-25-1988
actor: "Whatever Became of . . . ."
08-19-1902 - Ogden Nash - Rye, NY - d. 5-19-1971
poet: "Three Ring Time"; "Kaleidoscope"
08-19-1903 - Claude Dauphin - Corbeil, France - d. 11-17-1978
actor: "As Easy as [removed]"
08-19-1903 - Fran Striker - Buffalo, NY - d. 9-4-1962
creator, writer: "The Lone Ranger"; "Sgt. Preston of the Yukon"; "The
Green Hornet"
08-19-1903 - Muriel Kirkland - Yonkers, NY - d. 9-26-1971
actor: Mary Marlin "Story of Mary Marlin"; Mary Todd "Honest Abe"
08-19-1913 - Harry F. Mills - Picqua, OH - d. 6-28-1982
singer: (The Mills Brothers) "Mills Brothers Quartette"
08-19-1915 - Ring Lardner, Jr. - Chicago, IL - d. 10-31-2000
screenwriter: (Member of the Hollywood Ten) "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-19-1916 - Marie Wilson - Anaheim, CA - d. 11-23-1972
actor: Irma Peterson "My Friend Irma"
08-19-1921 - Gene Roddenberry - El Paso, TX - d. 10-24-1991
writer: "Have Gun, Will Travel"
08-19-1922 - Lester Fletcher - Cardiff, Wales - d. 12-8-1989
actor: "Sherlock Holmes"; "FBI in Peace and War"
08-19-1933 - Debra Paget - Denver, CO
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
08-19-1946 - Bill Clinton - Hope, AR
[removed] president: Saturday morning presidential broadcast

August 19th deaths

02-17-1924 - Mel Welles - NYC - d. 8-19-2005
worked as a radio disc jockey before moving to Hollywood in the 1950s
03-11-1907 - Jessie Matthews - London, England - d. 8-19-1981
actor: Mrs. Mary Dale "The Dale's"
05-21-1915 - Kathleen Cordell - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-19-1997
actor: Marion Burton Sullivan "Second Mrs. Burton"; Monica Brewster
"Valiant Lady"
06-15-1894 - Robert Russell Bennett - Kansas City, MO - d. 8-19-1981
compser: "Symphony in D for the Dodgers"; "Project Twenty"
06-20-1890 - Effie Palmer - Albany, NY - d. 8-19-1942
actor: Jean Evans "Lonely Woman"; Dodie Black "Scattergood Baines"
06-29-1913 - Hilliard Marks - d. 8-19-1982
producer: (Brother of Mary Livingston) "The Jack Benny Show"
10-02-1890 - Groucho Marx - NYC - d. 8-19-1977
comedian: "Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel"; "You Bet Your Life"
11-04-1917 - Jean King - Dallas, TX - d. 8-19-1993
disk jockey: Lonesome Gal "Lonesome Gal"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:57:09 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Your Money Or Your Life

Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:16:43 -0400
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];

The question wasn't what Jack Benny said in the "your money or your
life?" routine. I _know_ the answer was "I'm thinking it over."
What I asked was whether the _incorrect_ response, "I'm thinking.
I'm thinking" was ever used in some _other_ routine and somehow got
married to the "your money or your life?" routine. I'm trying to
determine whether the many websites which give the incorrect answer
are all just basically quoting the same erroneous source (and/or
each other), or if Jack said those words in some context, somewhere.

I think that many more people have heard =of= the routine than have
=heard= the routine.  And somehow those all are convinced that he
said, "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."  Or perhaps they like the line
better that way.  I know there was someone in my office who was most
insistent that this was what he said, even though she had never heard
the routine herself, and even though I told her that I had.  She kept
to that until I played the tape for her.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:57:28 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Lone Ranger

Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:22:15 -0400
From: "Cynthia Heimsoth" <chibibarako@[removed];

I always thought that John Reid was believed killed in the same
attack that killed his fellow Rangers -- IIRC he even made up an
"extra" grave.  So to the world outside John Reid was dead.  Was
that the right thing to do?

Maybe or maybe not, but at the risk of starting up the discussion all
over again, it was never established in the radio or TV shows that
the Lone Ranger's first name was John.  The name "John" originates
from sometime in the 1960s, in a book that many people do not
consider canonical.

And on a related subject, I note from recent news reports on the
foiled terrorist plot that the British Home Secretary is named John
Reid.  Or maybe his name is just Reid and they just came up with the
name John later.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:58:13 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK - Podcast

Hi Friends,
SPECIAL NOTE: Because of the many requests we've received, we are now making
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going to our new website at: [removed]

Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you may
listen to high-quality broadcasts with Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio
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SAME TIME, SAME STATION

THE ADVENTURES OF CHARLIE LUNG
Episode 41 8-14-48  "The Final Curtain"
All voices portrayed by Charlie Lung, "The Man of 100 Voices"

THE ADVENTURES OF LEONIDAS WITHERALL
Episode 18  9-24-44  "The State Fair Murder Case"

ACTION THEATER
Audition Show  1-15-45  "High Explosive"
Stars: Jane Wyatt, Robert Lowery
HOST: William Gargan
ANNOUNCER: Art Baker

GUNSMOKE
Episode 274  7-7-57  "Word of Honor"
Stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon

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HERITAGE RADIO THEATER

DIMENSION X
NBC    5/6/50   "Knock". The last man on earth.

CLOAK AND DAGGER
NBC    7/9/50   "The Trap" WW II OSS story.

BOB & RAY CBS    9/1/59   Labor Day show.

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THE GLOWING DIAL

The Mickey Mouse Theater Of The Air - episode 11 "The Pied Piper"
originally aired March 13, 1938 on NBC
from The Disney Little Theater on the RKO lot
Starring: Walt Disney as Mickey Mouse, Thelma Boardman as Minnie Mouse,
Stuart Buchanan as Goofy, Clarence Nash as Donald Duck, Florence Gill as
Clarabell Cow, John Hiestan announcing.
Music by Felix Mills Orchestra
Sponsor: Pepsodent

Little Orphan Annie - episode # 1027 "Light In The Mysterious House"
originally aired in 1936 on The Blue Network / NBC
Starring: Shirley Bell as Annie.
Sponsor: Ovaltine

The Adventures Of Superman  - episode 45 "Avalanche Heads For Pioneer's
Monument"
originally aired May 24, 1940 via Transcribed Syndication
Starring: Clayton "Bud" Collyer as Clark Kent / Superman, Joan Alexander as
Lois Lane, Julian Noa as Perry White, Jackie Kelk as Jimmy Olsen.
Sponsor varied by market

Blackstone The Magic Detective - episode 51 "The Magic Writing"
originally aired September 18, 1949 on MUTUAL and in Syndication
Starring: Ed Jerome as Blackstone, Ted Osborne as John, Fran Carlton as
Rhoda, Alan Kent  announcing.  Bill Meeder on the organ.
Sponsor varied by market

The Cruise Of The Poll Parrot - "The Treasure Hunt" part 5
originally aired October 23, 1937 in Syndication
Starring: Marvin Miller as Captain Roy Dalton & Poll Parrot, Dave Ward
announcing.
Sponsor: Poll Parrot Shoes for Boys & Girls (International Shoe Company)
Syndicated by Poll Parrot Shows

Captain Midnight - "Signal From The Sky"
originally aired December 2, 1943 on The Blue Network
Starring: Ed Prentiss as Captain Midnight, Pierre Andre announcing.
Sponsor: Ovaltine

Dantro: The Planet Man - episode 5 "Marston Planning Attack On Earth"
originally aired in 1953 in Syndication
Starring: Joseph Boland as various Robot characters.  Phil Tonken
announcing.
Jon Gart on the organ.
Sponsor varied by market
Syndicated by Palladium Radio Productions

Jack Armstrong: The All American Boy - "The Luminous Dragon Eye Ring" part 6
originally aired October 7, 1940 on NBC
Starring: Charles Flynn as Jack Armstrong, John Gannon as Billy, Sarajane
Wells as Betty, Jim Goss as Uncle Jim, David Owen announcing.
Sponsor: Wheaties

The Adventures Of Flash Gordon & Jungle Jim
episode 25 "Flash, Dale & Zarkoff Crash In Rocket"
originally aired October 19, 1935 on MUTUAL
Starring: Gale Gordon as Flash Gordon, Maurice Franklin as Dr. Zarkoff.
Producer: Himan Brown.
Sustained

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If you have any questions or request, please feel free to contact me.

     Jerry Haendiges

     Jerry@[removed]  562-696-4387
     The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
     Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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