Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #281
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Date: 7/21/2003 3:40 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 281
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Flee samples                          [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Non-ethnic actors                     [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
  Re: "Hey bud ..." - Benny rubin as t  [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
  re Question re iPod                   [ "lance" <lancepawl@[removed]; ]
  Partially Transcribed                 [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Re- Defence of Radio Spirits!         [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
  Jack Benny                            [ William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed]; ]
  HAPPY BIRTHDAY HIMAN BROWN            [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
  William Conrad and John Dehner        [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  two orsen welles programs             [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
  free stuff                            [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Walking Man                           [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:19:05 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Flee samples
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Will Nicoll wrote:

That doesn't include the Jack Benny Show and one of President
Franklin D. Roosevelt's Fireside Chats heard by the family who found the
radio in their
attic - and fled the house until engineers arrived to take it away.

Well, that was the kicker that made this story REALLY suspect to me.  I can't
imagine why anyone would flee their house when a Jack Benny Program is
playing on their radio.  :)

--LL

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:21:04 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Non-ethnic actors
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Herb Harrison wrote:

I've read that many of the complaints about the 'Charlie Chan' movies come
from people who say the films are derogatory toward Asians because the
actors who played Chan were white Westerners, as if Asian actors were not
qualified to play the part.

I wonder what that says about [removed] Griffith's "Broken Blossoms" with Richard
Barthelmess playing Cheng Huan.  That's a heartbreaking movie in my book,
regardless of the ethnicity of the actors.

--LL

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:18:45 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for week
 Starting: July20th

Here's the lineup of shows on streaming audio available 24/7 at:
[removed]
for the week beginning Sunday, July 20th.

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
A Look In Depth at "Sorry, Wrong Number"
1. LUX RADIO THEATER    CBS   1/9/50    "Sorry, Wrong Number"
starring  Barbara Stanwcyk and Burt Lancaster.
2. THE JACK BENNY SHOW    CBS    10/17/48       Jack's guest is Barbara
Stanwyck.   "Sorry, Wrong Number"
3. SUSPENSE    CBS    2/24/44    "Sorry, Wrong Number"  starring:
Agnes Moorehead,  Hans Conreid, Cathy Lewis, and John McIntyre.

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
1. THE BICKERSONS    CBS    8/25/51   Stars  Lew Parker and
Frances Langford in  "The Honeymoon Is Over"
2. COMMAND PERFORMANCE-USA    AFRS   10/44  Shortwave
aircheck of show hosted by Linda Darnell, with: Martha Tilton,
Woody Herman, Amos & Andy, and Frank Morgan.
3. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL    NBC   #558   7/14/50
Bill Stern is still on vacation.  Basil Rathbone sits in, and tell a
remarkable tale of an English actor.

Enjoy!!      Tom & Jerry

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:05:12 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: "Hey bud ..." - Benny rubin as the Tout

In a message dated 7/20/03 12:38:29 AM, Laura Leff writes:

Just catching up on a backlog of Digests and saw this tidbit in Ron's
births/deaths column.  A small [removed] Rubin played many parts on the
Jack Benny Program, but the tout ("Hey [removed]") was played by Sheldon
Leonard.

***Yes, Sheldon Leonard often portrayed the racetrack tout on THE JACK BENNY
PROGRAM, but the role was indeed portrayed by Benny Rubin when the tout was
first introduced in the January 7, 1945 episode of THE JACK BENNY PROGRAM.
That's the incredible episode which introduced three of Jack's most famous
comedy
devices.  Jack made his first trip down to his underground vault during the
broadcast, encountered the racetrack tout (played by Rubin in the broadcast)
...
and we also heard Mel Blanc utter "Anaheim ... Azusa and Cuc-amonga for the
very first time.  (And Jack got rebuffed by Frank Nelson at the railroad
ticket
counter too.)  Of course, the vault, the tout (later regularly portrayed by
Sheldon Leonard) and Blanc's "Anaheim ... Azusa and Cuc-amonga all became
hugely popular running gags on Benny's show.  I selected the episode for Radio
Spirit's new OLD TIME RADIO'S GREATEST SITCOMS collection for that very
reason.
--Anthony Tollin

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:05:23 -0400
From: "lance" <lancepawl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  re Question re iPod

Not sure if you could load OTR shows directly from CD to the iPod nor if
you'd want to. You probably would want to copy them from the CD to your hard
drive and then add them to the iTunes (Mac) or MusicMatch (PC) library. Once
they are in the library you will be able to create playlists, for example
'Favorites', 'Mystery OTR', 'Duffy's Tavern', etc. This gives you much more
flexibility in organizing and categorizing everything. You can create, edit,
or delete playlists whenever and as often as you want. They simply reference
the library. I use the iPod with a Mac (iTunes program) Once the iPod
connected to the Mac, it's simply a drag and drop operation to load the
playlists to the iPod from the iTunes library. I imagine it's the same with
MusicMatch on the PC. One nice feature of the new iPod is you can create 'on
the go' playlists. You can cycle through all the loaded playlists on the
iPod and select individual titles, which then get sent to the 'on the go'
playlist. This way you can build a specific list of titles that will play
for hours if you wanted without having to bother with the iPod controls
again.

Regards,

Lance

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:07:58 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Partially Transcribed

In answer to the question about "Partially Transcribed," that's an easy one.
Although this applies the majority of the time to the 1950s, whenever you
hear an announcer say "portions of this broadcast were transcribed" that
usually means the drama.
It was sometimes inconvenient . . . . let's say I LOVE A MYSTERY during the
1949 - 1952 years to have the actors to come to the studio five days a week
when they have busy schedules.  Once a week the actors like Tony Randall and
Mercedes McCambridge and Russell Thorson would show up at the studio, spend
an afternoon recording a whole week's worth of broadcasts, four, five,
sometimes six at a time.

For each episode, the dialogue and action was recorded from the first line
of dialogue to the last line, usually in groups of about four or five a day,
although sometimes the cast and crew would go up to six shows in one day.
The actual broadcast was "put together" on the air to save money on union
regulations.  The organ theme was recorded, but if the recording was put on
the disc and then played on the air, the organist would have to be paid
twice.

The sound engineer would play the sound effects of the train whistle, the
announcer would open the program, the recording of the organ theme would be
played on the air, the sound effects would be played, and the opening
synopsis would be read over the air.  The recorded episode would be played
and afterwards, the same method would be used to close the broadcast.  Rank
McCarthy was often the announcer for the New York run.

This production method was convenient for both the producer (Carlton E.
Morse) and the actors.  The cast would only have to assemble once a week
instead of five times a week.  By having the announcer read the material
live on the air, money was saved by union regulations.  It is possible that
the announcer received nothing more than his salary for being the staff
announcer at WOR and reading the station breaks and commercials for that
station.  This is why for most of the existing serials like "Bury Your Dead,
Arizona" the announcer's part is "missing."

This same practice was done for many of the Auto-Lite SUSPENSE episodes.
Made it convenient for everyone to appear at the studio once a week when
they could do the drama at their liesure, rather than some weekday evening
when they'd have to do it twice a night for the West Coast and East Coast
"live" broadcasts.  Kept the budget down and cast and crew didn't complain.
Martin Grams, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:08:48 -0400
From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re- Defence of Radio Spirits!
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I am writing in response to John comments about Radio Spirits.  You can 
defend them all you like.  They are not the company they use to be.  I am going by 
my personal experience dealing with them as a customer and as a listener.  In 
the past me and a family member had defects in purchases as well as late 
inquires about questions about billing errors.  I admit no, I didn't send a reply 
to them to ask questions like you did about why they no longer carry their 
three syndicated shows I commented about this pass week in the digest.  I felt why 
should I if, I had late responses by this company about billing errors 
disputes.  I rely on people who read this digest including those who read with 
affiliations with Radio Spirits to answering my questions, if they can.  From what 
I read from your comments, you didn't have problems with them in the past.  
That's great! but Radio Spirits could have left a notice on their website of 
such an abrupt change.  If it's money problems they are having as you stated in 
the digest I understand that.  I know this much about them, they have changed.  
I hate to talk so bad about a company I loved so much.

Trina,

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:09:16 -0400
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny

The posting about Palm Springs. Jack  did have a home there. During the
Spring of 1946 I was layed off at CBS. I was immediately hired to go to
Palm Springs and build a new station (KCMJ) for announcer Dick Joy and
his partner, Don McBain, a former Don Lee engineer turned United Airlines
captain. To celebrate the opening of the new CBS affilliate, the network
originated their Frank Sinatra show from there, using the local movie
theater, to be followed by a local dedication program, with a welcoming
bit by the Palm Springs mayor. During the afternoon Benny passed by and
seeing a KNX studio manager sunning himself outside the theater, inquired
as why he was there. After George explaine what was going on, Jack said
he would stop by that evening and give us a hand. Due to the fact that
the Frank Sinatra was no novelty   to them (they were used to sharing the
soda fountain at the local drug store with him) the audience response was
poor. Fifteen minutes later we went back on the air locally, and Jack ,
as he promised showed up and took over the mike,ad libing and had the
audience "rolling in the aisles". The only one not laughing was the irate
Sinatra director who swore he would never take his show out of town
again. Our local announcer finally had to take over in order to get the
mayor on. This proved that Jack was a natural comedian and could do a
great performance without the help of script writers!

Possibly I mentioned before that, after spending the winter in Palm
Springs, I went back on staff at CBS-Hollywood and the next day went to
Catalina Island for three and a half months originating name dance bands
from the Casino at Avalon. I guess you all will realize what a tough life
we engineers had to put up with.

BILL MURTOUGH

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:09:22 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  HAPPY BIRTHDAY HIMAN BROWN
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        You don't get to be 93 in this world by doing things wrong and I for
one would like to thank Himan Brown for his unflagging energy and boundless
imagination. The two absolutely necessary attributes it would take to leave
such
a mark on the wondrous 20th century's greatest magic [removed]
     Inner Sanctum is still one of the highlights in my listening day, even
now as it was when I first heard it in my crib back in 1946.
     It only saddens my heart that there are not more of those shows in
circulation but I suppose I should be happy with what I [removed] I am.
     This glorious state of mind and the heartfelt wishes I offer Mr. Brown
do not preclude the wish I have for the discovery of yet another show or two
to
add to my collection.
     It may also gladden his heart to know that I have passed these shows on
to my son and now my grandsons who respond just as I did way back in the balmy
creative ferment that was the mid-century's creation of one of the great
radio shows.
     Happy Birthday sir and thank you.
                     Michael C. Gwynne

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:09:31 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  William Conrad and John Dehner

I've received a question from a reader of my "Information Please" column
(SPERDVAC Radiogram). He asks if anyone has written a biography about
William Conrad or John Dehner. I'm not aware of any. Is there one?

Barbara

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:09:39 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  two orsen welles programs

Does anybody by chance have MP3 versions of Wild Oranges or The
Interloper, Song of Solomon, I'm a Fool from the Welles Mercury summer
Theater?  The version of Interloper etc that I have is not good at all
and I don't have wild oranges at all.  Please contact me off list.  Thank
you.

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:09:57 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  free stuff

FREE:  We have boxes of previously recorded carts (the kind radio stations
used). You pay the postage or arrange to pick them up in the Los Angeles
area and they are yours.

If I don't find a home for them this summer, they will be dumped.

Barbara

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:30:50 -0400
From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Walking Man

Remember the "Truth or Consequences" radio quiz show with Ralph Edwards?
And the "Miss Hush" mystery contest, an actress who whispered weekly clues
(who was that actress anyway?) and later, "The Walking Man" contest (who
turned out to be Jack [removed] Waukegan, IL)
I'd appreciate a reply off list to identify "Miss Hush" and any other
similar, weekly clue T&C audience contest. Thanks.

Now there is an "Incredible Walking Man" email animation that is on the
Hoaxbusters list at this web address:
[removed]#walkingman

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