Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #335
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 10/31/2005 4:05 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 335
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  War Of The Worlds/Dr. Who             [ Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed] ]
  Re:The Eternal Light                  [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  Nightbeat vs. Night Beat              [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
  The Influence of Mr. Hoover           [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  FBI file on Clark Kent                [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
  KKK?                                  [ "Jed Dolnick" <jdolnick@[removed] ]
  tape woes -tangled tape               [ Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@yahoo ]
  FOTR                                  [ Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@y ]
  Re: KKK -- today?                     [ Paul Gough <paulgough@[removed] ]
  Third Revised Ultimate History        [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  How Could I Have Forgotten?           [ Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@y ]
  KKK -- today?                         [ "Andrew Schneider" <madjack71@earth ]
  Radio Guides                          [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  religious OTR                         [ Clif Martin <martbart@[removed]; ]
  Orson Welles and Doctor Who           [ "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; ]
  10-31 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The Shadow [removed] Hat          [ William Mize <willmize@[removed]; ]
  Jim Harmon books                      [ "D. FISHER" <dfisher052@[removed] ]
  "Golden Age of Radio" programs with   [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
  Cigarettes WWII                       [ [removed]@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:35:48 -0500
From: Steve Kostelecky <doyasteve@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  War Of The Worlds/Dr. Who

Noticed on BBC-7 in the Listen Again section they are
playing Part One of a Dr. Who story about "Invaders
>From Mars" with our man Welles featured. We'll see
what they do with it.
Steve

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:37:55 -0500
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:The Eternal Light

Kurt Yount asked:

I am wondering how many episodes of the eternal light there were and if
and how many exist, hopefully on MP3.

Eli Segal's book lists all of the programs both on radio and television
with additional info on each program. However, I do not see a "numeric"
figure, so I would have to count them to see how many there were. It ran
over radio from 1944 through 1984.

As to how many on mp3, I'll have to leave that for someone else.

Jim Widner

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:38:06 -0500
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Nightbeat vs. Night Beat
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Does anyone know if the Frank Lovejoy show should be spelled as one word or
two?

Visit [removed] for OTR program title and date corrections

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:37:23 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Influence of Mr. Hoover

"Thomas," speaking of Superman's activities after dealing with KKK types,
notes,

I note that after taking on the KKK-inspired Clan of the Fiery Cross,
Superman addressed a world peace organization (actually it was Batman,
disguised as Superman).  Sounds like a Communist front group to me. In
view of J. Edgar Hoover's interest in civil rights activists such as
Martin Luther King as Communist sympathizers, I wonder if the FBI
compiled a file on Clark Kent.

Given that Superman was a Secret Identity of Clark Kent, that would have
made Mr. Hoover particularly prescient.  The only people who knew
Superman's alter identity as belonging to the Man of Steel were Batman
and Robin.  I had no idea that J. Edgar Hoover was *that* effective!

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:38:24 -0500
From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  FBI file on Clark Kent

I read Tom Van der Voort's query about the FBI vis-a-vis Clark Kent. As a
matter of fact during research I was doing in the late 1990s, I obtained a
copy of the [removed] have long since completed my use of it and am offering it
to anyone currently in need of it.  Please contact me off line and indicate
your interest. If you wish, I can have it shipped air express.

Howard Blue

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:47:17 -0500
From: "Jed Dolnick" <jdolnick@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  KKK?

To avoid being admonished for dealing too much in the off-topic realm, I'll
keep this brief. Yes, the KKK is still around. No, it's not the national
force it was in the early part of the 20th Century when it controlled entire
states (most infamously Indiana) or could march down Pennsylvania Avenue
without a contrary word being said. The various KKK organizations have been
splintered due to in-fighting and devastating lawsuits by its victims. The
bad news is that there are many equally scary loons in other groups
(neo-Nazis, Christian Identity, "Militia").

Jed

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:46:50 -0500
From: Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  tape woes -tangled tape

Hi,

Does anyone have any secrets of untangling reels when
they get tangled up?  Somehow, the tail end of a very
nice Dragnet reel got tangled up while I left it
running last nite.  I hand wound all I could until I
hit a tangled spot I couldn't untangle.  Luckily 2
tracks had already been dubbed, but I had to sacrifice
2 out of the 12 shows on the reel. (The tape lost was
about 22 minutes of two shows) I think the 641 takeup
reel had something to do with it (that solid plastic
reel with only one little hole for threading it.
Tapes almost always get flipped on that type of reel -
I hate it.  I try to use a Scotch 176 empty for a
takeup reel.  So much easier and problem-free!  If
only all OTR could have been digital, sigh.

Trav

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:46:43 -0500
From: Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  FOTR

   Hi all,
      This post is very late, but I've been trying to
play catch up after being away for a few days, and
also dealing with some very serious family illnesses.
      Can it be a week already since FOTR Number 30
ended? I wait all year for those 4 days, and they fly
by so quickly.
      As always, a huge Thank You to Jay Hickerson,
without whom there would be no FOTR. I'd like to
bottle his [removed] make a fortune. Thanks also
to everyone on the committee for their tireless
efforts the year round in making FOTR come to life.
     For me, FOTR is more than a convention, it's a
family reunion. It was so good to see my friends Derek
"The Mayor of Etherville" Tague, Will "Sugarfoot"
Hutchins, Barbara "Gun Moll" Watkins, Bobb "Oogie"
Lynnes, Fred Shay, Edgar Russell, Arthur and Alice
Anderson, Ed Clute,Martin Grams and his lovely bride
Michelle, and many, many more.
    Also, it was great putting faces to so many of my
fellow OTR Digest posters like the lovely Melanie
Aultman ( thanks for the DVD! ), Ken Piletic, Jim
Widner, Michael Gwynne, the enormously talented Craig
Wichman, and Jack French.
   And finally, I had a blast meeting our esteemed
webmaster Charlie Summers. Charlie and I not only
talked for quite a while on Wednesday night, but I had
the pleasure of sitting next to him at dinner Thursday
night. Charlie, thanks for all the laughs! We were
cracking up like two mischievious schoolboys all
during dinner. For those of you who haven't had the
pleasure of meeting him, Charlie is an even nicer guy
in person than he is on the Digest, if that's
possible.
   So, now it's on to number [removed] 51 weeks to go!

                Ken "Bambino" Stockinger

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:46:38 -0500
From: Paul Gough <paulgough@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: KKK -- today?

"Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
asked:

Are there KKK groups still active in the USA?

Not sure of other places, but they have occasionaly
surfaced in Connecticut. Notably the Towns of
Wallingford and I think Voluntown. They came to
Wallingford because of a dispute over the Martin
Luther King holiday for town workers (now resolved by
state law). Can't remember what draws them to
Voluntown. Their message is ignored in the state.

Paul Gough

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:07:45 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Third Revised Ultimate History

The Third Revised Ultimate History of Network Radio Programming is off the
press.  Let me know if you didn't get one at the convention and want one.  Jay

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:08:49 -0500
From: Ken Stockinger <bambino032004-otr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  How Could I Have Forgotten?

        In my post on FOTR, how could I have left out
the one and only Jughead, Hal Stone? I now call him
The Silver Fox. That smooth son of a gun completely
charmed my wife Jennifer. She still talks about how
she got not  one, but two, kisses in the same evening
from Hal. One as a hello, and the other one when he
realized Jen's 35th birthday was that very day. Hal,
I'm glad Jen only sees you once a year. Otherwise, I'm
afraid I would finish a distant second to Harlan The
Great. :)
       And let me add my kudos to all of the casts,
directors, sound effects, music, etc on this year's
recreations. I was especially moved by the touching
episode of "Dr. Christian". Was I the only one tearing
up at the end? It was so great to hear the melodious
voice of Earl Hamner Jr., who was a welcome guest for
many years in my family's living room every week on
"The Waltons".
      My admiration also to the cast of Norman
Corwin's "The Plot To Overthrow Christmas". Sheer
genius is all I can say about the script, and the
amazingly talented cast who recreated it. What a
listening delight that was!
     And Stuart [removed] you made it home safely.
You are a true fan to make the trek from California to
Newark by car! We were so glad you could attend, and
hope to see you many more times. You were a wonderful
addition to our late night "libation" round table!

     Add in the wonderful Joe Franklin, Jerry Stiller,
and Anne Meara, and it was truly four incredibly
wonderful, memorable days!

                       Ken

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:09:03 -0500
From: "Andrew Schneider" <madjack71@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  KKK -- today?

To answer Ted Kneebone's question, the KKK is unfortunately still very much
with us.  The Southern Poverty Law Center provides details on the Klan and
its currently active known chapters on its web site.  The URL for their
Klan page is [removed];m=3

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:09:12 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Guides

I have 3 radio Mirrors and 6 radio Guides left.  if anyone is interested,
please contact me for details.  I also have many scripts, original and copied
if
you are interested.  Jay Hickerson

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:09:25 -0500
From: Clif Martin <martbart@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  religious OTR

Early religious radio, whether it's The Eternal Light,  Message of Israel,
Catholic Hour with Fulton Sheen, Charles Fuller's Old Fashioned Revival Hour,
Greatest Story Ever Told, FatherCoughlin or Aimee Semple McPherson's stranger
that fiction adventures,is quite fascinating to many of us."Reedeming the
dial" by Tona Hagen is a great book that chronicles radio's use by
evangelists  "from an on-air novelty in the 1920s into a profitable and
wide-reaching industry by the 1950s."  I oppose any use of a group to promote
a particular faith unless that is its stated purpose but I suspect there
might be others here who  have an objective interest in religious
broadcasting as an important part of radio's history and  in finding early
religious shows and contemporary broadcasters who program religious
nostalgia.

Clif Martin

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:47:51 -0500
From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Orson Welles and Doctor Who

Very timely!   The BBC7 website has started running a Doctor Who serial in
which the time-travelling hero goes back to 1938 and becomes involved with a
certain broadcasting event.

"Doctor Who  --
Invaders from Mars: New York, 1938. Orson Welles prepares to make an
historic broadcast from the studios of CBS and there's a new gumshoe in
town. Episode 1 of 4."

The show is only on once a week, so you can hear it during the whole of the
following week.

It features what I thought was one of the best imitations of Welles' voice
I've heard (but then I'm not an American).

[removed]

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:47:59 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-31 births/deaths

October 31st births

10-31-1886 - Courtney Ryley Cooper - Kansas City, MO - d. 9-29-1940
writer: "The Gibson Family"
10-31-1887 - Chiange Kai-Shek - Hsikow, Chekiang, China - d. 4-5-1975
world leader: "Free World Theatre"
10-31-1896 - Ethel Waters - Chester, PA - d. 9-1-1977
blues singer: "American Revue"; "Command Performance"; "Jubilee"
10-31-1901 - Eric Hatch - d. 7-4-1973
commentator: "Cresta Blanca Carnival of Music"
10-31-1909 - Thelma Boardman - d. 4-xx-1978
actress: Minnie Mouse "Mickey Mouse Theatre of the Air"
10-31-1912 - Dale Evans - Uvalde, TX - d. 2-7-2001
actress, singer: (Queen of the Cowgirls) "Charlie McCarthy Show"; "Roy Rogers
Show"
10-31-1922 - Barbara Bel Geddes - New York, NY - d. 8-8-2005
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Ford Theatre"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Cavalcade
of America"
10-31-1922 - Illinois Jacquet - Broussard, LA - d. 7-23-2004
jazz saxophonist: "One Night Stand"; "Command Performance"; "Jubilee"
10-31-1926 - Shirley Dinsdale - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-9-1999
ventriloquist: Judy Splinters "Judy in Wonderland, The Eddie Cantor Show"
10-31-1928 - Cleo Moore - Baton Rouge, LA - d. 10-25-1973
actress: "Bud's Bandwagon"
10-31-1931 - Dan Rather - Wharton, TX
newscaster: Houston Radio

October 31st deaths

02-02-1895 - George Halas - Chicago, IL - d. 10-31-1983
football coach: "Tops in Sports"
03-05-1894 - Henry Daniell - London, England - d. 10-31-1963
actor: "Theatre Guild of the Air"
03-06-1918 - Roger Price - Charleston, WV - d. 10-31-1990
writer, actor: "The Comedy Writers Show"
05-11-1914 - Bob Atcher - nr. West Point, KY - d. 10-31-1993
singer: "Faultless Starch Time"; "WLS Barn Dance"
05-25-1908 - Linda Watkins - Boston, MA - d. 10-31-1976
actress: Dot "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"; "Big Guy"; "Fat Man"
06-21-1907 - Charles 'Bud' Dant - d. 10-31-1999
music: "A Day in the Life of Dennis Day"; "Glamour Manor"
06-21-1921 - Joan Tetzel - New York, NY - d. 10-31-1977
actress: Sylvia Field "When a Girl Marries"; Jane Brown "The Goldbergs"
07-16-1882 - Charles Egelston - Covington, KY - d. 10-31-1958
actor: Shuffle Shober "Ma Perkins"; Humphrey Fuller "Just Plain Bill"
08-02-1915 - Johnny Long - (Raised: North Carolina) - d. 10-31-1972
bandleader: "The Teen-Timers Show"; "Judy, Joe, and Johnny"
08-13-1913 - Rita Johnson - Worcester, MA - d. 10-31-1965
actress: Martha Curtis "John's Other Wife"; Joyce Jordan "Joyce Jordan, [removed]"
08-14-1889 - Robert Woolsey - Oakland, CA - d. 10-31-1938
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
08-19-1915 - Ring Lardner, Jr. - Chicago, IL - d. 10-31-2000
screenwriter: (Member of the Hollywood Ten) "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-22-1902 - John Houseman - Bucharest, Romania - d. 10-31-1988
writer, producer: "Mercury Theatre on the Air"; "Campbell Playhouse"
09-24-1916 - Johnny Catron - Boston, MA - d. 10-31-1998
bandleader: "The Union Oil Company Show"
10-23-1943 - Roger Scott - London, England - d. 10-31-1989
disc jockey: "Three O'Clock Thrill"; "Hitline"
10-26-1907 - Tony Pastor - Middletown, CT - d. 10-31-1969
bandleader: "Tony Pastor and His Orchestra"
11-18-1912 - Arthur Peterson - Mandan, ND - d. 10-31-1996
actor: Reverend John Rutledge "The Guiding Light"; "World's Great Novels"
12-09-1906 - Ken Niles - Livingston, MT - d. 10-31-1988
announcer: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Rudy Vallee Show"; "A Date with Judy"
12-28-1915 - Dick Joy - Putnam, CT - d. 10-31-1991
announcer: "My Secret Ambition"; "The Saint"; "Advs of Sam Spade"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:17:26 -0500
From: William Mize <willmize@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Shadow [removed] Hat
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Hello!
Long time lurker who counts OTR as one of his hobbies here in St Petersburg,
Florida.
Just got back from my favorite local sci-fi/fantasy/horror convention here in
Tampa, (Necronomicon) and loved the costumes.  Star Trek, japanese animation,
zombies, comic book heroes, you name it, it was probably represented - except
for OTR and the pulps.
I've decided to change that next year and [removed] The Shadow.
It's a relatively simple costume to pull off, and will look brilliant.
My problem, and subsequent question is this:

What kind of hat does he wear?

Is there an official name for it?
A google for "shadow" "pulp" and "hat" gets me a bunch of cheap, poorly made
halloween costume hats, and that's just not going to cut it.

I thought it might be a fedora, but it seems to have a wider brim and the
back doesn't snap up, it seems to snap down.  It's almost an Indiana Jones
type hat, except in black.
I'd love to hear from anyone/everyone on this.
Doubleplusgood bonus points if you can provide links where I can purchase
one, either locally or on the web.
If you don't want to clutter up the list, please feel free to contact me off
line - my email address is 'willmize@[removed]'

Thanks so much!
Help me be The Shadow!

- Bill

[removed]

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:56:41 -0500
From: "D. FISHER" <dfisher052@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jim Harmon books

I'm kinda surprised that there have been quite a few mentions about Jim's
"The Great Radio Heroes" book, including Jim's own comments, but no one has
mentioned another of his fine books, "The Great Radio Comedians". I've had
both of these books since they were first published. The "Heroes" book since
1967 & the "Comedians" book since 1970. The interesting thing about the
"Comedians" book is it had a small vinyl disk included right inside the
front cover with a bit from [removed] Fields & Burns & Allen put out by Columbia
Special Products division. Do you remember that, Jim? I think they are the
first books I ever bought on Oldtime Radio. I still find them very
interesting reading.

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:02:34 -0500
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick
 Bertel and Ed Corcoran

The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with Dick Bertel
and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at [removed]

This week we present three complete shows in MP3 format
for your listening pleasure or for downloading. We present
new shows every week or so. These three shows will be
available on line at least until the morning of November 7th.

Program 80 - November, 1976 - Evie Juster

Evie Juster appeared in many radio programs, including "Amanda
of Honeymoon Hill", "X Minus One," "Suspense," "Yours Truly,
Johnny Dollar," "Cavalcade of America", and well over 60
installments of "The CBS Mystery Theater."

Program 81 - December, 1976 - Robert Campbell

Robert Campbell was the author of the book, "The Golden
Years of Broadcasting", the first 50 years of NBC. He was
the author of 27 novels, 19 of which were mysteries; 14
screenplays; 4 stage plays; and wrote the scripts for 10
television series, including "Born Free," "Maverick" and
"Marcus Welby, MD."

Program 82 - January, 1977 - Staats Cottsworth

Staats Cottsworth was labeled "radio's busiest actor" in 1946.
He was perhaps best recognized as the nighttime supersleuth
Casey, Crime  Photographer. And in his spare moments
Cotsworth turned up on The Man from G-2, Mark Trail,
The Cavalcade of America, The March of Time Quiz, Rogue's
Gallery, and various other series.

In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program for WTIC in
Hartford, CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio
collector-historian Ed  Corcoran a few times on his radio and
TV shows. "The Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in
April, 1970;  Ed was Dick's co-host.

For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's
early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection.

"WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights
on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.

Bob Scherago
Webmaster

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:05:53 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cigarettes WWII
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The value of cigarettes ashore was remarkable.
I remember buying my mother an aligator purse in Cuba for a carton of Camels.
The carton cost me $.50 aboard ship if I remember correctly.

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