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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 118
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
bob and ray: a source [leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass]
alistair cooke is on pri, yes [leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass]
David, Steve and the Barbershop! ["Merill Barber" <mgbarber@[removed]]
Cincinnati Convention & the Cincinna [GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@]
"Boy groups" and "Girl groups" ["Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed]; ]
NPR shows [Bill Harris <billhar@[removed]; ]
"The [Radio] Spirits are about to sp ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Hark! ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Re: Fibber and Molly [Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Kids records the Bear that Wasn't ["Henry Brugsch" <henry@[removed]]
Cincinnati weather ["Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed]]
Re: Radio Spirits customer service [Ga6string@[removed] ]
King's Men ["Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@worldnet.]
Error [William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];]
OTR on ham radio [danhughes@[removed] ]
Horatio Hornblower ["J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed]]
JOHN WAYNE ON RADIO; A RARITY ["Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:36 -0400
From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: bob and ray: a source
thumb through some late fall new yorkers in the back of the book and you
will find an ad, it not in the issue in your hand try another.
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:40 -0400
From: leonardfass@[removed] (Leonard Fass)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: alistair cooke is on pri, yes
but probably not on most pri/npr [removed] can hear him on short
save at 2:45 [removed] monday morning, set your tape [removed] there is
also a bbc site where you can hear him and also read an archive of
programs, by him and about him. .... and it is true originally he did
not want his letters heard in america.
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:43 -0400
From: "Merill Barber" <mgbarber@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: David, Steve and the Barbershop!
Like Stephen A. Kallas Jr I am not apologizing for misspelling poor David
Phaneuf's name either. he was nice enough to send a private note to make
sure I was not offended by his teasing. I explained why I was not. As I told
him, my last name is Barber and because of the way we often have our last
names listed first, a person who glances at it will often call me Barbara.
Even our family physician of many, many years has glanced at it and without
applying his brain, said Barbara. But even with a simple and common name
like Barber, people ask me how it's spelled and I have often said just
[removed] [removed] guessed it. One twit of a receptionist named me
Gloria Barbershop. And if I don't shut up about this it will probably begin
to sound like the Jack benny show or maybe George and Gracie.
Luv ya all - Gloria
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:45 -0400
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cincinnati Convention & the Cincinnati "Riots"
Please be aware that the national media blew up
the Cincinnati civil unrest into something a lot more
that it actually was. There was absolutely no "race
war" in Cincinnati.
I live merely six blocks from the heart of the
"riot zone" but the ONLY rioting I saw was on the TV
news. In my own neighborhood Afro-Americans and Whites
moved as amicably together as usual, and sort of
wondered aloud what all the fuss was about.
Yes, there WAS protest and civil unrest in some
sections of Cincinnati. (And a good deal of that was
fully justified.) But what the media conveniently
"forgot" to tell you is at least ONE-THIRD of the
protesters were WHITE! Anybody who can get "race war"
out of THAT circumstance must really WANT one!
I'm not trying to get on a political soapbox here
- just suggesting that anybody who's decided to cancel
out on this year's Cincinnati OTR Convention may well
want to rethink his or her decision. This is a
genuinely good city full of genuinely decent people
and we've spent fully two centuries successfully
working out our problems.
You will notice that in all the "rioting" that
nobody was killed. To the best of my knowledge, there
was nobody even critically injured. Just imagine if
this [removed], one of those OTHER cities rather
than Cincinnati.
George Wagner
GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:48 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "Boy groups" and "Girl groups"
Some of the boy groups and girl groups of today do resemble the vocal groups
of the past, being composed generally of 4 or 5 good looking kids who sing
and dance, accompanied by unseen (and usually un-credited) musicians. A
number of the newer groups are products of the Disney company -- packaged,
marketed and managed from day one. Skipping the typical evolutionary steps
of struggling rock bands, they are pre-assembled from auditions and heavily
promoted as the next hot thing, pretty much the way movies are.
This level of corporate sponsorship is a fairly new thing in the rock music
world, but is it really new or a return to an earlier model? What was the
normal pattern in the OTR days? Did most groups like the Andrews Sisters
struggle along on their own until they made it big, or was it fairly normal
for them to step suddenly into the spotlight under the wing of a big
sponsor?
Doug Leary
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:52 -0400
From: Bill Harris <billhar@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NPR shows
Owens Pomeroy commented:
I also agree with the post about the NPR shows being the closest (so
far) to OTR Programming. I have also been informed that there are a
number
or "Pirate" stations on the Ham radio band b/casting OTR programs from
their
own private collections. I don't know weather this falls under the FCC
jurisdiction or not, or the guys have just been lucky so far with their
project".>>
I doubt you will find much if any broadcasting of OTR programs on the
ham bands. Broadcasting on the ham bands is strictly against FCC
regulations for [removed] course a pirate would care little about
regulations. Some ham bands, the 40 meter ([removed] MHz) band in
particular, are shared with commercial short wave broadcast (mostly
foreign). There have been some pirate stations that broadcast just above
the 40 meter ham band but I have never heard any OTR, mostly just rock
junk or anti-government stuff. The hams are usually quick to bring to
the attention of the FCC any pirate stations that try to move into their
frequencies. Most pirate stations operate either on the standard AM or
FM broadcast bands. This can be done legally by using very low power
transmitters that comply with part 15 of FCC regulations and operate on
a non-interfering basis to commercial stations. The power is so low that
a station is lucky to cover a city block. Those that operate at higher
power levels are in violation of FCC rules and often do get shut down
and fined by the FCC.
Bill Harris
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:53:59 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "The [Radio] Spirits are about to speak."
Bob Watson, commenting on a report of defective tapes from Radio Spirits
(RSI), observes,
I had bought the 20 tape Superman set from them last year and after six
months of on and off listening, found a defective tape in the bunch. I,
too, emailed for assistance and heard nothing from the company. However,
when I called the customer service number a few weeks later, they
promptly attempted to replace [removed];<
I had similar experience with RSI. E-mailing them is a sometimes thing;
calling them is something else. I spotted something in a "closeout"
section of their catalog, and called for details. They were unclear, but
I was told that if I bought the tapes, and they turned out to be
duplicates of stuff I already owned, they'd trade them for other tapes.
I sent for them, and when they arrived, they did turn out to be
duplicates, and RSI honored their word.
Dealing with RSI is best done by telephone.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:54:03 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hark!
Jimidene Murphey, speaking of varying quality in some OTR recordings,
notes,
In fact, for several years I listened to the "Golden Age of Radio" on
the radio (when I could get it) and it reminded me of my old 1965
transistor radio I cherished as a sixth grader. In some ways, lack of
static equates lack of "realness" for me. I do like a clear, crisp
sound, but if an oldie has static, that's just part of the thrill for
me!<<
I don't want to beat this into the ground, but I think it's worth making
a point that what I hope to get is optimum sound -- the clearer the
better. One of the pitifully few Ovaltine-sponsored Captain Midnight
shows I have in my collection is full of noise. Big time. It has record
surface noise, both hisses and crackles. It's got repeats, where the
needle stuck. But it's in my collection because it's the only copy of
the program I was able to find.
Would I like a better copy of the show? "You betchum." Another couple
of the Captain Midnight shows in my collection were struck from the
George Garabedian LP (which I own, but I play the tapes), and they're
crystal clear. But I'll accept poor quality when I have no choice.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:54:05 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fibber and Molly
1935 - 1st radio broadcast of "Fibber McGee & Molly"
Have a great day on this note, and open a few closets.
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:54:07 -0400
From: "Henry Brugsch" <henry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Kids records the Bear that Wasn't
I do this every so often, in the hopes of some one new having this
recording.
But, when I was growing up, in our nersery school (Holden's Nursery School
in Newton Ma if anyone on the list is a former inmate) they used to play
this record.
It showed up on kids radio for a few years, then I'd guess after the anti
comunism nurosis of the early '50s, the record mysteriously disappeared.
My parents tried to find it forme after my interminable nagging to have this
record, but nothing could be found.
I'd really like to find this again, but so far all trails have grown cold.
regards from Blighty, Btw, foot and mouth isn't the crisis that most folks
back home think it is.
--
MAILTO:HENRY@[removed]
[removed]
g0gku/k1hbj
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:36:14 -0400
From: "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cincinnati weather
If we would have had this week's weather last
week there would not have been the any rioting.
It would have been too cold.
Bob B.
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:36:16 -0400
From: Ga6string@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Radio Spirits customer service
Hi all,
On the discussion of Radio Spirits, and their responsiveness to problems with
defective [removed] I've purchased their products for a long time and have
found their customer service to be outstanding. Two examples: My 18-month-old
daughter *destroyed* on of the tapes of my 20-tape Gunsmoke set. I wrote
Radio Spirits and asked them if they would sell me a replacement copy, and
they *called me* on the phone to say that they were sending out a replacement
at no charge. Also, I bought a 6-tape video collection from them a couple of
years ago, and only recently discovered that one of the tapes was defective.
I called them, and they replaced the tape. No hassles of any kind in either
case.
So, while Radio Spirits may have done some things that really annoy
collectors regarding rights/licensing issues, my personal "customer service"
experience with them has been excellent.
Sincerely,
Bryan Powell
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:36:19 -0400
From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: King's Men
Stephen Kallis transcribed: "Bing Crosby had a 'boy group' called The King's
Men. I never heard them anywhere else than the Bing Crosby show. Where
there other groups that only appeared on a single OTR show?"
The King's Men were the featured quartet on Fibber McGee and Molly. Led by
Ken Darby, the did some film work with Jim and Marion Jordan and also sang
in many Disney animated short subjects.
Crosby groups included "The Charioteers," "The Music Maids and Hal" and "Jud
Conlon's Rhythmaires."
Brj
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:04 -0400
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Error
I made an error recently when I identified Vern Smith(?) as the guy who
liked to operate the elevator at 485 Madison (CBS). It was someone else,
I think Bern Bennet.
Bill Murtough
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:08 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR on ham radio
Owens sez:
there are a number of "Pirate" stations on the Ham radio band b/casting
OTR programs from their
own private collections. I don't know whether this falls under the FCC
jurisdiction or [removed]
You bet it does! Such actions are absolutely illegal. Amateur radio is
for point-to-point, one-to-one communication, not broadcasting.
---Dan (N9XDK)
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:42:17 -0400
From: "J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Horatio Hornblower
Some months ago I purchased the first 26 episodes of the Horatio Hornblower
series from AVPRO. I thought they were faithful to the stories in the
original books. They began with an adaptation of much of the material in C.
S. Forester's _Captain Horatio Hornblower_ (the original trilogy) and
continued with stories from Hornblower's later career. I haven't made an
effort to correlate which novels were done, but this series would have been
broadcast shortly after the 1951 film with Gregory Peck. It's a pity there
are so few credits on their Harry Alan Tower radio series -- though I
recognize some [removed]
The A&E/BBC television films began with adaptations from the short stories
in _Mr. Midshipman Hornblower_ and the current two films apparently draw on
_Lieutenant [removed] There's enough material remaining in the Forester
canon to keep them busy for years.
Randy Cox
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:19:26 -0400
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: JOHN WAYNE ON RADIO; A RARITY
Did U know that there was only one show that John Wayne was on during
Radio's Heyday. In all the books that have been published over the past 25
years, the only one listed is a series called: "Three Sheets To The Wind".
I do not know how many programmes were in the series, but Jon Swartz book,
Handbook of OTR (Scarecrow Press, 1993), lists it as an adventure series
that takes place aboard a Luxury Liner during WW II Wayne (naturally),
plays a special agent assigned to the ship, to weed out saboteurs, and enemy
agents. It was on NBC from 1942-'42 and only the first-half of one episode
(I guess the pilot), is in circulation.
I often wonder why a man of Wayne's popularity, would not do more radio
work than this one series. anyone have any ideas on this topic?
Owens Pomeroy
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