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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 18
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Novelty songs [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]
Listening to OTR at work [ Chip Melsh <chip20877@[removed]; ]
Listening Habits [ "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@jalc. ]
Re: Listening habits [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Re: Listening to OTR at work [ "Rodney W Bowcock" <[removed]@ ]
characters never heard - Gloria Goos [ David Loftus <dloft59@[removed] ]
Re: Listening to OTR in Work?? [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Fulton Lewis' [removed] [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
"The Thing" [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
Orson Welles--the radio years? [ "Michael Ogden" <michaelo67@hotmail ]
Fulton Lewis and CBSRMT [ Paul Evans <evans_paul1963@[removed] ]
Linda Kaye Henning [ Bagleyfan <bagleyfan@[removed]; ]
1-18 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Hotel check-out at six [removed] [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
What is the conclusion to Suspense's [ Craig Melville <craigmelville@yahoo ]
I am lucky, I can listen to OTR at w [ Craig Melville <craigmelville@yahoo ]
Sherlock Holmes on the BBC [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
Imagination [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:11:05 -0500
From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Novelty songs
I might as well throw in my nomination for silly lyrics.
How many of you recall that unforgettable [removed]
"If I had a nose full of [removed]'d blow them all atchew!
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:30 -0500
From: Chip Melsh <chip20877@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Listening to OTR at work
Hi,
I'm able to listen at my desk with my computer, there
are lots of Internet sites to choose from. As long as
I keep the volume within reason my co-workers don't
seem to mind.
Chip
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:34 -0500
From: "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Listening Habits
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After reading many delightful ways that everyone enjoys listening to
their OTR shows I thought I'd share what I have done (am still doing).
Having been born in 1937, I remember very well the actual listening of
the shows in the early '40's through the early '50's. So I thought I'd
recreate that atmosphere as accurately as I could. I traveled back to
Pottstown, Pennsylvania (where I grew up listening to the Philadelphia
stations) and went to the public library. I searched the newspapers from
1942 to 1949 for the radio sections. I then made copies of the radio
schedules from various days to get a sampling of what was on and what
days it played. What a great time I had. Now, armed with a bunch of old
radio schedules I sit down in the evenings and instead of watching the
idiot box I play the specific show, at the specific time it aired many
years ago. Oh I know it sounds a little eccentric but its been
enjoyable. By the way, since I have most of my collection stored in MP3
format, it's easy to pull off the computer exact ally what I want to
listen to and transfer it to cds to play through my replica old radio.
I'm thinking about an ipod but I don't think I'm smart enough to use
one! Happy listenin'..............
Jerry Bechtel
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:03:25 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Listening habits
Getting in late, waaayyy behind in my e-mail --
The way I like to listen to shows is whenever possible play them on
the day they originally aired, ([removed], Jack Benny on Sunday) and whenever
possible at the same time the show aired (again, [removed], 7 [removed])
Of course this isn't always possible with the time the show aired,
having to spend a lot of time finding out the date and the day the week
it aired, etc. Currently I'm listening to FM&M Tuesdays, from 1944,
when, for example, Jan 18th was also a Tuesday.
At one time I got most of my shows from the SPERDVAC and ORCA
libraries and would get many tapes of the same show and would listen to
about four or five in a row, but after about four of the same series, no
matter how much I loved that particular show, I grew bored listening to
even three straight hours of Jack Benny, Suspense, whatever.
I also always try to listen to the shows in order, rather than
jumping around from year to year.
Joe
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Visit my homepage: [removed]~[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:03:39 -0500
From: "Rodney W Bowcock" <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Listening to OTR at work
I work in the office of a major paper distribution company and listen to
OTR for most of the day. My job involves little time on the phone, and I'm
in front of a computer most of the day so nobody is bothered by it.
Rodney Bowcock
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:00:59 -0500
From: David Loftus <dloft59@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: characters never heard - Gloria Gooseby?
In the recent thread about radio characters discussed but never actually
heard, I did not notice whether anyone mentioned Gloria Gooseby, the
ubiquitous woman that Blanche is always accusing husband John of having an
interest in. Was she another character who was never actually heard on the
air?
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:01:39 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Listening to OTR in Work??
Marty wondered aloud --
> What kinds of jobs do you have that allow you to listen to OTR
at work?
This dovetails with my last post. :)
I work in security and am on various posts here and there.
(Posts=job sites). There are some that are merely chair warmers, where
I just have to be there, in case anything happens. At such places I
load up my laptop with a mix of comedy/drama and am able to listen to
otr, and get paid for it. (Before the laptop I took CD's and a .mp3
player that I could plug into an outlet. But that was rather cumbersome.)
Joe (though I do enjoy listening as well without being paid.)
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Visit my homepage: [removed]~[removed]
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:02:04 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fulton Lewis' [removed]
Eric commented on my remarks about newscasts before and after some programs.
I just pulled my cassette of CBSRMT "Very private miracle" of 12/24/74.
After listening to the "post program", I find that my label is incorrect.
What I heard was Fulton Lewis III and his children. The organ alluded to
and heard was built by his father, Fulton Lewis (II), Jr. and installed in
their home. Apparently, it took about 20 years to complete the organ
building. At one point Fulton III plays a piece on that organ. Also
included is the junior choir of St. David's Episcopal Church in Washington,
DC, and it includes the voices of some of Fulton III's children.
My copy of the program was taped off WOR, New York, then a Mutual station.
The CBSRMT program was fed by CBS to WOR, and that network is given credit.
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:02:24 -0500
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "The Thing"
In a recent "Mr. Music" column by syndicated columnist Jerry Osborne, Phil
Harris's "The Thing" was mentioned. I don't remember all the details, but
"The Thing" was featured in the column because it is one of only two or
three songs to have the following distinctions: a) it made it to number one
on the charts, and b) its title is not in the lyrics of the song. If I could
remember the other one or two, I'd have an interesting trivia question to
offer at all the elaborate parties I attend.
Michael Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:06:49 -0500
From: "Michael Ogden" <michaelo67@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Orson Welles--the radio years?
Thanks to Howard Blue for passing on the information about the new Orson
Welles book. I've pre-ordered a copy, and am awaiting it with a mixture of
anticipation and trepidation. The trepidation comes from the fact that, for
literally decades now, I've been working on my own book-length
history-chronology of Welles' radio work. Sure, I've always realized that
somebody could scoop me on this--after all, it's an obvious subject to
tackle. But now that the moment of truth has [removed]
Well, I guess I'll just be the glass-is-half-full optimist until I actually
have the book in hand and can examine its contents. Since it appears to be
part of a "critical studies" series, the author's emphasis may be on
analyzing the shows and Welles' style and technique. All well and good, but
the purpose of my book lies elsewhere--to create the most historically and
chronologically accurate account possible of Welles' radio appearances,
particularly the difficult-to-track early years when he was performing
mostly without on-air credit.
So the question will be: how much genuine historical research did Heyer do
in writing the book? Not to be "catty" (although I do have my Manx fluffball
Gracie lying on my desk right now, next to the keyboard) but he's already
got a strike against him with the subtitle ORSON WELLES--THE RADIO YEARS
1934-1952. I know there's several sources that cite Welles' radio career as
beginning in 1934, but my own research has shown that March 1935 was his
first network appearance. So, it will be interesting to see if Heyer, in
denoting 1934, has uncovered some new definitive information or has simply
repeated older unsubstantiated claims.
Still on the subject of Orson, Jim Widner forwarded a question about the
possibly-apochryphal story of an accidental toilet flushing in the middle of
the sewer scene of LES MISERABLES. (Talk about "bathroom humor"!) I would
say that the story is probably true, but we may never know for certain. The
fact that this is alleged to have happened during a broadcast from
Liederkrantz Hall indicates that it was the 1939 CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE version
of "Les Miserables" rather than the seven-part serial done for WOR in 1937.
And, unfortunately, that's one of the few Welles Campbell shows which
doesn't appear to have survived.
We do know that Orson had already used the CBS bathrooms for sound effects.
In "The Count of Monte Cristo" he actually did have a person assigned to
keep the toilets in constant flush for the scene where Dantes escapes from
the ocean-bound confines of the Chateau D'If.
Also, it does well to remember that, despite the fact that Welles could
never resist embroidering a remembrance, just the fact that he was involved
leads us to expect any kind of craziness on his part. Remember, the "War of
the Worlds" broadcast wasn't the ONLY time that the NYPD charged into CBS
headquarters. Just a few months later they were called in because of reports
of people shooting at each other on the roof, only to find that it was the
Mercury actors firing off blanks as they were rehearsing "Beau Geste" in a
giant sandbox.
Mike Ogden
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:08:36 -0500
From: Paul Evans <evans_paul1963@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fulton Lewis and CBSRMT
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One year at the Old-Time Radio and Nostalgia Convention in Sharonville, OH, I
bought a tape of the 3/25/74 broadcast of The CBS Radio Mystery Theatre. As
is the case with some of the editions I buy there, the news before and after
the program was included on the tape. Preceding this particular episode,
"The Diary of a Madman," was a Watergate-related commentary by Fulton Lewis.
If this is any help at all, E-mail me privately and I can dub you a copy.
--
PAUL T. EVANS, Columbus, OH, USA
Husband, Father, Poet, Autodidact, Bureaucrat
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:47:14 -0500
From: Bagleyfan <bagleyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Linda Kaye Henning
Stuart Lubin wrote:
Not being a television fan, I have no television reference books in the
house, but I believe that Linda also had a famous father: Paul Henning,
who created (?) "The Beverly Hillbillies". This was the same Paul
Henning who was one of the writers in radio for Rudy Vallee.
The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network TV Shows 1946-Present (5th ed
1992) states that Paul Henning produced Petticoat Junction and Green
Acres. It also says that he was Linda's father, but I used to wonder about
that. Why was she credited in the show's early years as "Linda Kaye", with
the "Henning" added later in the run? I assumed she'd married a Henning
along the way. Perhaps they initially tried to hide the classic nepotism
of her being the young starlet hired by Daddy, but later decided to credit
her properly after the show hit and she'd proven herself.
- Dan Roy
[ADMINISTRIVIA: This thread might be more appropriate on The Kinescope - see
[removed] for more info. --cfs3]
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:47:27 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-18 births/deaths
January 18th births
01-18-1882 - A. A. Milne - London, England - d. 1-31-1956
author: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
01-18-1892 - Oliver Hardy - Harlem, GA - d. 8-7-1957
comedian: "Laurel and Hardy Show" Pilot, never broadcast
01-18-1899 - Lucille Wall - Chicago, IL - d. 7-11-1986
actress: Portia Blake "Portia Faces Life"; Belle Jones "Lorenzo Jones"
01-18-1902 - Helen Lynd - NJ - d. 4-1-1992
actress: Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
01-18-1904 - Cary Grant - Bristol, England - d. 11-29-1986
actor: Jim Blandings "Mr. and Mrs. Blandings"
01-18-1913 - Danny Kaye - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-3-1987
comedian: "Danny Kaye Show"
01-18-1915 - Bob Mosher - d. 12-1972
writer: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Henry Morgan Show"; "Harry Von Zell Show"
01-18-1915 - Lesley Midgley - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 6-19-2002
producer cbs news: "The Twentieth Century"
01-18-1920 - Constance Moore - Sioux City, IA
singer, actress: Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery Time"
January 18th deaths
03-13-1911 - James T. Quirk - d. 1-18-1969
announcer, station program director Philadelphia, PA
03-31-1918 - Charles Russell - NYC - d. 1-18-1985
actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
04-04-1894 - Ed East - NYC - d. 1-18-1952
comedian: Gwendolyn "Quality Twins"; "Sisters of the Skillet"
04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
06-12-1890 - Junius Matthews - Chicago, IL - d. 1-18-1978
actor: Grandpa Eph "David Harum"; Ling Wee "Gasoline Alley"
06-25-1893 - Charlotte Greenwood - South Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-18-1978
comedienne: "Life with Charlotte Greenwood"; "Charlotte Greenwood Show"
07-09-1901 - Jester Hairston - Belews, NC - d. 1-18-2000
calypso singer: King Moses "Bold Venture"
10-30-1918 - Joan Banks - NYC - d. 1-18-1998
actress: Arline Harrison Manning, "Portia Faces Life"; Carlotta Lagorro
Armour, "Today's Children"
11-30-1926 - Dick Crenna - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-18-2003
actor: Oogie Pringle, "A Date with Judy"; "Walter Denton, "Our Miss Brooks"
12-27-1879 - Sidney Greenstreet - Sandwich, England - d. 1-18-1954
actor: Nero Wolfe "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; "Hollywood Star Preview"
12-30-1912 - Nancy Coleman - Everett, WA - d. 1-18-2000
actress: Alice Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:21:06 -0500
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hotel check-out at six [removed]
Hello, I was listening to The Singing Walls from Suspense, and they said
that they'd have to check the register before six [removed] in order to get to
the proper room where they thought the murder had happened. I don't stay in
hotels, as I don't travel, but I do work for the Best Western call center
here in Phoenix, and I know that the check-out time is usually 11 or 12, and
the check-in time is usually 3. Could someone explain how hotel check-ins
and check-outs were done back when this program was on?
Thanks a lot.
Matthew
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:39:45 -0500
From: Craig Melville <craigmelville@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: What is the conclusion to Suspense's 'August
Heat'
I'm sure some one will know the answer to this
question, but I recently revisited some of my suspense
radio plays (its just like visiting an old friend) and
I came across an episode titled 'August Heat' number
143. It was first aired on the 31 of May, 1945 and
starred Ronald Colman. I'm not sure if it is just my
copy or the original recording is incomplete but I'm
missing the last 4 or so minutes. If anyone has heard
the ending I could love to find out how the episode ends.
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:39:32 -0500
From: Craig Melville <craigmelville@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: I am lucky, I can listen to OTR at work.
I am lucky enough to be able to listen to OTR at work.
I am a Graphic Designer who works in the advertising
and publishing industry. After we, (another designer
at work I have hooked on Johnny Dollar) develop an
advertising campaign we then design it on the
computer. OTR really makes the hours fly when you
need to work the odd 16 to 18 hour day.
Craig
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:47:34 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sherlock Holmes on the BBC
For those who are interested the BBC has posted some new Sherlock Holmes
stories that you can read and listen to at:
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Enjoy.
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:44:49 -0500
From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Imagination
In the 1/16/05 OTR newsletter, Candy Jens asked this question:
Have any readers been surprised when you actually saw a radio personality,
compared with your impression? Or did they "measure up" to your imagination?
My imagination was sort of shatterd when I saw my first Fibber McGee and
Molly movie during World War II. As we know, the golden age of radio has
been called the "theater of the mind". When I saw them on screen I could
accept them as they looked because I had seen their pictures in magazines.
However, the house they lived in (in the movie) was not their "radio" house
which I had pictured in my mind for a number of years. Everything in their
"movie" house was all screwed up in accordance with my mental floor plan of
their "radio" house. Talk about a need for Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.
There was another aspect of the movie, if I remember correctly, that also
bothered me. Fibber was almost meek and mild mannered. Molly was more
outspoken. On their radio program Fibber was a wisecracking, feisty and at
times a hyper find of guy.
Regards,
Ken Dahl
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