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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 452
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  determining dates of OTR              [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
  Old [removed]                [ EdHowell@[removed] ]
  Goodbye Chester                       [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
  Chickenman                            [ "James Faulkner" <tsunami100@[removed] ]
  Re: Parley Baer                       [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
  Parley Baer                           [ ericandsusie@[removed] ]
  OTR Database                          [ "Ron Hopkins" <idahocanuck@cableone ]
  Additional 20 For 1 Trades            [ Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed]; ]
  Parley Baer                           [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Parley Baer's Passing                 [ "Audio Classics (tm) Archives" <c ]
  audio of JFK assassination reports    [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Parley Baer                           [ Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed] ]
  Rio Volt CD-MP3 Player                [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
  Radio ventriloquist                   [ BH <radioguy@[removed]; ]
  Re: JFK Coverage                      [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Radio Stars With Nick Adams           [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 20:06:40 -0500
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  determining dates of OTR

Is there a program or web site that will tell you the year if you in put the
day/date?

Example - August 18 was a Monday in what years?

Joe Salerno
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:18:54 -0500
From: EdHowell@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Old [removed]

George Aust's story about his 41 Chevvy brught back some memories and a
thought that a tank of gas today costs far more than my first car cost. When
I was in high school I had a 31 Chevvy I traded a Mills juke box for. It had
a segmented wooden steering wheel that often came apart in my hands. Besides,
every mud hole I drove through caused water to come up through the large hole
that was the battery compartment, That's why my sweetie wouldn't ride with me
(she's now my wife).
I recall the old speedometer-type "chains" used to adjust volume and tune in
stations on our old car radios and I wonder if anyone remembers that the
antenna was under the running board. Anyone know where one can get one of
those old antenna assemblies? Everyone I tell about the antenna's location
won't believe me. Most also won't believe that the Three Musketeers candy bar
used to be three separate candy bars in one wrapper. (Or that we didn't lock
our doors at night!)  Gee, I'm teling my age!

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:19:12 -0500
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Goodbye Chester

I am sorry to hear that Parley Baer had passed away this past weekend. I
guess that the final chapter of the radio Gunsmoke is closed. It was a great
show with an out standing cast. I just saw an episode today of the video
version of the show that featured Doc Adams called "The Pest Hole." One of
the guest stars was Howard McNear, who we all know as the radio Doc Adams. I
would love to hear the radio version of this episode.
Allen

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:27:49 -0500
From: "James Faulkner" <tsunami100@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Chickenman
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Would the gentleman who made a post about obtaining some Chickenman cassettes
please contact me offline?  I'd like to discuss this series with him, and
more.  Thanks, JIM F

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:10:03 -0500
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Parley Baer

One can't help but feel extremely sad that another incredibly talented
man has left us.  I never had the chance to meet Mr. Baer, but I know
people who have.  They all say the same things:  that he was very kind
and pleasant.

It really, really makes me sad to see so many great, talented people from
our past departing us so quickly.  Like so many of you, I grew up
listening to these voices, and knowing that they don't exist anymore is
really troubling.

My sincerest condolences to any friends and family of Mr. Baer on this
list.

Rodney Bowcock

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:45:59 -0500
From: ericandsusie@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Parley Baer

Hi all,
I would like to express my sadness at learning of the passing of Parley
Baer. I have been a fan of Gunsmoke for many years and I feel that
Chester was the glue that held the show together. Parley gave the
character a realism that Dennis Weaver was never able to [removed] was
also an excellent character actor. He will be truly missed. I am sorry I
was never able to meet him, although I feel that I know him from all his
work in radio.
God bless you all,
Eric Hardy

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:46:26 -0500
From: "Ron Hopkins" <idahocanuck@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR Database
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I am new at collecting OTR programs. I just found a program called Otter on
the internet at this URL.

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Otter is an OTR (old time radio) utility for Windows that can help you
organize, maintain, and enjoy your collection of MP3 radio programs.  With a
database of over 400 series and 60,000 programs.

I just thought it may of use to OTR collectors.

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:46:41 -0500
From: Ron Vanover <vanoverr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Additional 20 For 1 Trades

I've decided to continue offering 20 for 1; 10 for 1; and 2 for 1 trades
for selected OTR programs.  I'm currently featuring 'enhanced trades' for
Screen Director's Playhouse; Molle Mystery Theater; My Favorite Husband;
Best Plays; The Life of Riley; Father Knows Best; The Adventures of Ozzie
and Harriet; Adventures in Research; The Whister; Suspense; Lux Radio
Theater; Radio Reader Digest; Nick Carter, Master Detective; and Bill
Stern's Sports Newsreel.

My website, [removed], has links to lists of
the episodes I have and the episodes I need for the programs above, as
well as links to more than 41,000 additional episodes.

Please stop in and browse through my collection anytime.

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 23:24:03 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Parley Baer

I was very saddened to read Charlie's post about the passing of Parley Baer.

I remember the first time I ever met him. It was August 14, 1982 at a
SPERDVAC meeting. He was to be a part of a panel of legendary radio actors:
Virginia Gregg, Peggy Webber, Harry Bartell, Vic Perrin and John Dehner! I
arrived early and so had Parley. He was sitting in a chair, off by himself,
probably not wanting to be bothered, I thought.

I wanted to meet him. Not knowing what to expect, I finally gathered up my
courage. After all, this was THE CHESTER PROUDFOOT I grew up listening to
all those years!  I shyly approached him and meekly mumbled, "Mr. Baer,
would you mind if I asked you for your autograph?" He immediately responded,
"I'd mind if you DIDN'T!" Within less than 30 seconds I felt as if I had
known him all my life and we were the best of friends.

I'm sure this scenario was played out wherever he went. To meet Parley was
an instant love affair. I've never met anyone who had an unkind word to say
about him.

Over the years we met many times, at conventions, luncheons, plays,
weddings, funerals, etc. Always there was the big Baer hug waiting for me.
And for his many other fans. He was as kind as he was talented. And boy,
could he tell stories!

Those of us who attended the Friday evening dinner at the SPERDVAC
convention just three weeks ago were honored by his presence. He could no
longer talk but he had ways of expressing his love for his friends and fans.
And when he was introduced, he received a long, standing ovation.

Bravo, Parley!

Barbara

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:56:07 -0500
From: "Audio Classics (tm) Archives"  
 <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Parley Baer's Passing
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Hi Folks,

     This is one of those very rare posting that I'm making to the digest, and
this one is sad indeed.  I spoke this evening with Parley's daughter, Kim, and
she confirmed that Parley died last night at 10:45 [removed] of congestive heart
failure following a stroke on the 11th.  I knew Parley for many years both at
conventions and on a personal level.  He was a true first class gentleman in
every sense and definition of the word.  Totally unpretentious and willing to
help in any way he could.
     Many years ago at The Friends Of Old Time Radio at Newark, NJ, one of the
guest was to be Frank Nelson who had to cancel at the last minute.  Parley,
who had never been to these conventions, came in Frank's place not knowing
what to expect.  He arrived at the hotel on Friday evening and when he walked
into the main room where the Friday nights activities were in progress, Jay
Hickerson interrupted quickly by playing the theme music from Gunsmoke.
Everyone in the room stood and applauded him.  He was stunned and overwhelmed
with the love and respect of the convention attendees.
     In 1990, Parley attended for the first time, the fourth Old Time Radio &
Nostalgia Convention in Cincinnati, OH.  He returned many times after that and
was one of the princple reasons for the success and growth of that annual
convention.  He was a delight to watch and listen to when he played Albert to
Peg Lynch's Ethel & Albert.  I talked with Peg Lynch this evening, and she
confirmed as she had in the past, that Parley was one of the most comfortable
actors she ever worked with.
     In 1996 I asked Parley if he would mind if I presented an annual award,
in his name, to those individuals who "In recognition of (his/her) continuing
exemplary efforts in supporting the preservation and enjoyment of radio
history."  His comment to me was that he could think of many other names that
should be considered with an award like that before his name should come to
mind.
     Parley personally presented the first award in 1997 to Bob Burchett at
the 11th Cincinnati convention.  Health issues prevented Parley from attending
additional conventions after that.  But, Parley and I conferred each year as
to who would be the precipitant for that year.  The award will continue, but
sadly without Parley's yearly inputs.  I am troubled with his passing, it is a
great loss to us all.
     I will end with one happy memory of Parley, one of many that I cherish.
A few years ago in Cincinnati, Parley asked what time it was to Bob Burchett
since he had a rehearsal to attend.  Bob said that he didn't know since he
wasn't wearing a watch.  Later that day Bob asked Parley to autograph a photo
of himself.  He signed it "To Bob, who won't give you the time of day.
Parley."

Terry Salomonson
Audio Classics Archive
Broadcast Audio Restoration, Preservation and Archives
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[removed]@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:59:35 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  audio of JFK assassination reports

You can hear some interesting audio at:

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:06 -0500
From: Larry Gassman <lgsinger@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Parley Baer

Hello,
I was saddened but not surprised to hear early this afternoon that Parley
had left us.  Later in the evening I spoke with Herb Ellis and shortly
after the stroke and heart attack, Herb had planned to go and see
him.  Both John and i had talked to Herb about planning a dinner with both
Larry Dobkin and Parley, and now  those plans are at an end.
John and I first met Parley during a phone call in early 1982 when we were
working on a SPERDVAC meeting which would feature the CBS stars of the
50's.  We had invited Parley Baer, Harry Bartell, Virginia Gregg, Vic
Perrin, John Dehner, and Peggy Webber.  We had also invited Barney Phillips
but he was in the hospital at the time and could not be with us.  He died 2
days after the meeting which was held in August of 1982.
It was a very lively afternoon and one which we will not forget.
Over the years, we received cards and calls from Parley and Ernie, in fact
they would often call just to say hello.  Later we would bump in to both of
them at local events around town as well as at other OTR conventions around
the country.
He would often stop whatever he was doing to speak about an item we were
researching for the radio show.  He never turned us down and seemed to
enjoy our phone visits.
Parley was a lovable, caring man who never had a bad word to say about
anyone.  He was beloved in radio and Television circles.  He was one of the
brightest and most well read man I've ever met.  If you've ever been in a
room with him for any length of time, you will remember what a genuinely
nice  man he was.  He was one of the best story tellers I've ever met. He
will be greatly missed.
Perhaps his death was a blessing.  Over the last few years, he suffered
from several strokes and heart attacks.  His initial stroke left him for
the most part with out speech.  During this final period, he lost his wife
Ernie of many hears.
I will always remember Parley as a consummate professional, and as a good
friend.

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:15 -0500
From: Shenbarger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rio Volt CD-MP3 Player

A few weeks ago someone asked about changing the timeout interval in pause to
prevent the Rio Volt shutting off to quickly for his purposes. I have just
learned how to change mine. All models may not have the same features. If
that person still wants to know how to change it, he can write to me
privately.

Don Shenbarger

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:35 -0500
From: BH <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio ventriloquist

Marklambert@[removed] commented:

I e-mailed them today and asked if they'd ever heard of Edgar Bergen
and Charlie McCarthy.

I would seriously doubt that the 30 something ad agency writer
has.

Bill H.

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:25:04 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: otr message <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: JFK Coverage

This posting has bounced twice in the past three days because of some
problems with my ISP.  Let's see if the third time is the charm.

With all of the recent postings about the TV coverage of the JFK
assassination, it is almost like reading the Kine-D!  But it is on-topic
when you realize that so much of what has been mentioned here concerns
TV covering what on that first afternoon was basically a radio event.
Once the cameras warmed up and the networks could show more than just
the BULLETIN slide, what we ended up seeing were radio correspondents at
work--only they are trying to hide the chaos that was going on in the
rest of the studio.  Perhaps radio was able to do the job better during
those early hours because they didn't have that additional worry about
how they looked on camera.

I do recall that while surfing thru the three networks that afternoon it
was ABC which had video of reporters and events in Dallas much earlier
than the other two because they had access to WFAA-TV which had their
main studios in Dallas, while the other two nets' affiliates were more
based in Ft. Worth.  But it still was mostly radio with one film clip.
But once the President's plane arrived in DC the story became a
television event with plenty to show in DC and only occasional cutaways
to Dallas.

I also turned immediately to TV when I heard about it when returning to
school from a drivers ed trip.  But that was because I was located in
the Audio-Visual room in the school with the only two TVs in the
building.  For some reason nobody thought to turn on the radio that was
part of the school's [removed] system.  I remember feeling out of touch for
the half hour while walking home from school because (naturally) I had
not brought a portable radio to school.  But then it was back to TV as
soon as I got home.

But I do have two recollections of radio that weekend.  I was a devoted
fan of Eddie Startz's long running "Happy Station Programme" on Radio
Nederland, and never missed at least the North American repeat unless
reception conditions were impossible.   I probably was able to hear
several feeds of the program, and this was the first time I remembered
him being subdued.  Although he always did the first feeds of the three
versions live early in the morning, he rarely made reference to news
events except in passing.  But this had to be different, and I recall he
played relatively slow and bland music and talked a little about the
Dutch and European reactions.  I wish I had recorded it, because Radio
Nederland doesn't have it.  I've checked.

Earlier that day I went to Sunday school and listened to radio while
driving.  When driving home the radio coverage seemed chaotic.
Something had happened but I couldn't quite get a handle on what they
were talking about.  WHO had been shot??  Somebody else???  It took a
while, but finally I figured out that Lee Harvey Oswald had been shot
about ten minutes before I got into the car.  You see, there's a problem
of how much can a broadcaster repeat the obvious.  Yes there are new
people tuning in all the time, but it annoys people to hear the same
headline being repeated over and over for those who were just tuning in.

Same thing happened to me a few years ago.  I had been out eating lunch
when the [removed] Simpson verdict had come in, and when I got in my car ten
minutes after the verdict I couldn't figure out from the news reports
and the interviews whether he had been found guilty or not.  At least TV
can leave a superimposed headline at the bottom of the screen and
continue with the ongoing story.

I channel surfed most of the weekend, but probably watched NBC more than
the other two because I saw both times they aired "That Was The Week
That Was" from the BBC.  I agree with the comments that had been made
about the reporters, especially the negative comments about Frank McGee
being testy and unprepared.  In later years I came to realize how
shallow NBC coverage of almost anything was in comparison with CBS.  I
especially noted it during the Apollo 11 coverage.  When a question came
up, Walter Cronkite would give the answer on CBS, while meanwhile over
on NBC Frank McGee said he would look thru the fact-book for the info
while Huntley talked to Brinkley about nothing and Brinkley talked to
Huntley about nothing.  They kept talking so you thought they were
saying something--but they weren't.  And McGee never would come up with
the answer.

But remember, he was ill.  He was fighting cancer for a long time.  As
was Frank Reynolds in later years.  And that was probably part of the
reason for the meltdown that Elizabeth mentioned during the Regan
shooting.  I remember a similar outburst from him during the coverage of
the Sedat assassination.  It is the frustration of having to sit there
and read stuff that is handed you without you being able to find out for
yourself from multiple sources what is happening.  He probably realized
that the VIEWERS were probably better informed than him because they
could watch ALL the networks and he had to just sit there.

A very good example of how isolated the anchor is happened during the
earthquake that happened at the start of the Oakland World Series game
about ten years ago.  Ted Koppel was seemingly confused when reports
kept coming in about cars being crushed on a freeway that was being
shown.  He had been doing the coverage for over three hours when it
finally dawned on him.  "Do you mean that this road was a DOUBLE-DECKER
freeway?" he asked a correspondent.  It just looked like a regular
elevated roadway, but all of the viewers who were watching reports on
all of the stations already had found this out--but Ted was stuck in
that chair.

Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:27:10 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Stars With Nick Adams

Doing some OTR research recently, I stumbled on an internet site that
lists nearly all of the  cast credits for Nick Adams' TV show, "The
Rebel", in which he played Johnny Yuma, a former Confederate soldier,
wandering the West. The series ran two seasons (1959 to 1961) on ABC and
then for the summer of 1962 on NBC.

I was delighted to find many OTR actors listed in the episode credits,
including Tyler McVey, Agnes Morehead, Olan Soule, Ben Wright, Natalie
Masters, Vic Perrin, Tex Ritter, Jeanette Nolan, John Dehner, and Arthur
Peterson.

This episode guide is archived at [removed]

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:00:31 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

>From Those Were The Days --

Birthday:

1913 - Howard Duff (Sam Spade), died July 8, 1990

  Joe

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