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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2008 : Issue 185
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  The Fat Man                           [ "William Ronald Harker" <wrharker@d ]
  Australian version of The Fat Man     [ Art Brown <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  Empire State Building Crash           [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  Re: OTR actors on the tube and scree  [ "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed]; ]
  Van Doren                             [ Bhob Stewart <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  7-29 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  pabstette & frizz                     [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@sbcglob ]
  [removed] "the rest of the story"  [ herbop@[removed] ]
  OTR actors on TV ...                  [ "Bill Wilson" <[removed]@jacobsme ]
  The Fat Man                           [ "William Ronald Harker" <wrharker@d ]
  Hall of Fantasy - Organ and Kettle D  [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
  Himan Brown                           [ <vzeo0hfk@[removed]; ]
  OTR Digest                            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Oh those in-jokes                     [ Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:38:27 -0400
From: "William Ronald Harker" <wrharker@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Fat Man
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>From "Dashiell Hammett's Lost Stories," "Hammett allowed the producers to
feature his name in the show's credits and publicity.  For that he received
a healthy weekly payment.  Many people assumed he wrote ar at least edited
the scripts, but the only writing Hammett did for the show was signing his
name on the paychecks."  (331)

Bill Harker

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:39:15 -0400
From: Art Brown <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Australian version of The Fat Man
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The Fat Man was a 52 episode series that was broadcast on 2GB, a radio station
out of Sydney, New South Wales in 1955.

The National Film and Sound Archive of Australia states that the series was

a compilation of episodes from radio serial 'The Fatman', produced in
Australia,

with the story set in US.

No star is listed as playing Brad Runyon, however the cast list is a s
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    Alan Herbert

    Carolyn Taylor

    Moira Redmond

    Marie Clarke

    Rick Hutton

    John Gaudry

    John Crane

    Sheila Sewell

    Joan Landor

    Gwen Friend

    Ken Fraser

    Margo Lee

    Ken Wayne

    Harp McGuire

    Owen Ainley

    Max Osbiston

    Joan Lord

    Brian Anderson

    Janette Craig

    Georgie Sterling

    Nigel Tasman Lovell

    Fifi Banvard

    Richard Meikle

    Kenneth Warren

    Madge Ryan

    Bob McDarra

    Stewart Ginn

    John Ewart

    Gordon Glenwright

    Ruth Winifred Cracknell

    Kevin Brennan

    Margaret Christensen

    Neva Carr Glyn

    Edward Howell

    Hans Farkash

    Ron Whelan

    Joe McCormick

Sorry, but that's all that I can find out about the Australian version of The
Fat Man.

Best regards

Art

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:39:28 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Empire State Building Crash

The NPR story on the Empire State Building Crash in July 1945 that I
mentioned some time back was aired today on All Things Considered. If
you didn't hear it, you can listen by clicking on the link below.

[removed]

Jim Widner

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:39:39 -0400
From: "Jan Bach" <janbach@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: OTR actors on the tube and screen

Hello again -

I couldn't agree with Joe Mackey more, about the looks of radio actors vs.
their voices which so often are at odds with their appearance.
Take, for example, Marvin Miller, who had one of the most beautiful
announcing voices I ever heard, and versatile enough to narrate "Horton
Hears a Who," do a children's album of tongue twisters, and read most of
Edgar Allan Poe's well-known stories during the short lived "talking books"
(on 16 rpm records) craze of the early fifties. But he often played the
heavy in his few films, and even on TV's "The Millionaire," he looked more
like he would be stealing the million dollars than giving it to a worthy
recipient.
Or the case of Richard LeGrande, who played mild-mannered Mr. Peavey on The
Great Gildersleeve, but was much taller than Hal Peary, a fact no one even
bothered to disguise in the three or four Gildy movies where he appeared.
Then there was Jan Minor. She often played young, tall sophisticated women
in radio plays, but became best known as Madge the manicurist: "you're
soaking in it," and while attractive, was quite short.
Lurene Tuttle had a great voice but a very rough complexion -- still, she
did have her moment on the small screen in TV's "Life with Father" with
another radio actor, Leon Ames, where she could flash her bright smile and
regal bearing.
How nice that radio existed for these actors, who could play virtually any
role with their voices, but would have been hopelessly typecasted on the
stage or in movies.

Jan Bach

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:40:14 -0400
From: Bhob Stewart <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Van Doren

this piece is available only in the hard copy magazine.

Actually, the 7/28 NEW YORKER Charles Van Doren article is online:

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Bhob @ [removed]

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:40:03 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  7-29 births/deaths

July 29th births

07-29-1869 - Booth Tarkington - Indianapolis, IN - d. 5-19-1946
writer: "Maude and Cousin Bill"
07-29-1876 - Maria Ouspenskaya - Tula, Russia - d. 12-3-1949
actor: "Towards the Century of the Common Man"; "Treasury Star Parade"
07-29-1877 - William Beebe - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-4-1962
author: "Information Please"
07-29-1887 - Sigmund Romberg - Nagykanizsa, Austria-Hungary - d.
11-9-1951
composer, conductor: "An Evening with Romberg"; "Swift Hour"
07-29-1888 - Niles Welch - Hartford, CT - d. 11-21-1976
announcer: "The Campbell Playhouse"
07-29-1892 - Horace Braham - London, England - d. 9-7-1955
actor: Charles Lang "Wendy Warren and the News"; Ernest Benning "Big
Sister"
07-29-1892 - Lewis James - Dexter, MI - d. 2-19-1959
vocalist: "The Mobiloil Concert"; "The Revelers Quartet"
07-29-1892 - William Powell - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 3-5-1984
actor: Father "My Mother's Husband"
07-29-1894 - Kenneth Daigneau - d. 6-11-1948
actor: Captain Silver "Sea Hound"
07-29-1895 - Bill Corum - Speed, MO - d. 12-16-1958
boxing color man: "Gillettes's Cavalcade of Sports"
07-29-1896 - William Ford Manley - d. 7-10-1954
writer: "Snow Village Sketches"
07-29-1900 - Don Redman - Piedmont, WV - d. 11-30-1964
bandleader: "Don Redman and His Orchestra"; "Chipso Radio Program"
07-29-1900 - Owen Lattimore - Washington, DC - d. 5-31-1989
consultant: "Pacific Story"
07-29-1905 - Clara Bow - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-27-1965
actor: (The It Girl) "Kay Parker in Hollywood"
07-29-1906 - Thelma Todd - Lawrence, MA - d. 12-16-1935
comedienne: Series with Zasu Pitts
07-29-1909 - Bernard Mackey - d. 3-5-1980
singer, guitarist: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots";
"Let's Go Nightclubbing"
07-29-1910 - Joseph Curtin - Cambridge, MA - d. 4-5-1979
actor: Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin Man"; John Perry "John's Other
Wife"
07-29-1910 - Sydney Roslow - d. 11-12-2002
psychologist: "What Makes You Tick?"
07-29-1911 - Florence Freeman - NYC - d. 4-25-2000
actor: Ellen Brown "Young Widder Brown"; Wendy Warren "Wendy Warren
and the News"
07-29-1913 - Geraldine Kay - d. 9-25-2001
actor: Barbara Palmer "Masquerade"; Kyle Ling "Lone Journey"
07-29-1913 - Stephen McNally - NYC - d. 6-4-1994
actor: "Ford Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
07-29-1914 - Robert Haag - Illinois
actor: Sheriff Mark Chase "Death Valley Days"
07-29-1914 - "Professor" Irwin Corey - Brooklyn, NY
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
07-29-1916 - Albert Lewin - NYC - d. 4-23-1996
writer: "Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy"; "Eddie Cantor Show"
07-29-1922 - Johnny Barricks - d. 12-3-2005
disk jockey: WKAY Glasgow, Kentucky
07-29-1924 - Lloyd Bochner - Toronto, Canada - d. 10-29-2005
actor: "The Chase"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
07-29-1924 - Robert Horton - Los Angeles, CA
actor: "Suspense"
07-29-1927 - Luther Sies - Westminster, MD
author: "The Encyclopedia of American Radio 1920-1960"
07-29-1938 - Peter Jennings - Toronto, Canada - d. 8-7-2005
news broadcaster: "When Conventions Were Conventions"
07-29-1949 - Tim James Archer - Lancaster, CA
singer of radio commercials
07-29-1950 - Bill Estes - Racine, WI - d. 4-13-2008
regional manager of Wisconsin Public Radio's WHAD-FM

July 29th deaths

02-01-1906 - Hildegarde - Adell, WI - d. 7-29-2005
singer, pianist: (The Dear that Made Milwaukee Famous) "Hildegard
Program"
03-01-1910 - David Niven - Kirriemuir, Scotland - d. 7-29-1983
actor, panelist: "NBC Radio Theatre"; "Transatlantic Quiz"
03-14-1919 - Luther Henderson - Kansas City, MO - d. 7-29-2003
arranger: "Cue Magazine Salutes ASCAP"
03-31-1933 - Anita Carter - Maces Springs, VA - d. 7-29-1999
singer: (Carter Sisters) "Country Music Time"; "Grand Ole Opry"
05-12-1936 - Tom Snyder - Milwaukee, WI - d. 7-29-2007
talk show host: ABC Network
06-09-1900 - Fred Waring - Tyrone, PA - d. 7-29-1984
conductor: "Fred Waring and His Pennsylvanians"; "Pleasure Time/
Victory Tunes"
06-27-1927 - Peter Bayliss - Kingston-upon-Thames, England - d.
7-29-2002
actor: "A Trick to Catch the Old One"
07-21-1910 - Carl Ravazza - Alameda, CA - d. 7-29-1968
bandleader: "Carl Ravazza and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"
07-31-1916 - Bill Todman - NYC - d. 7-29-1979
producer, director, writer: "Treasury Salute"; "Winner Take All";
"What's My Line"
08-03-1918 - Les Elgart - New Haven, CT - d. 7-29-1995
bandleader: "Let's Go to Town"; "Manhattan Melodies"
08-06-1895 - Phil Boutelje - Phildelphia, PA - d. 7-29-1979
arranger: Paul Whiteman Orchestra
08-10-1921 - Marvin Zindler - Houston, TX - d. 7-29-2007
disk jockey, spot news announcer: KATL-AM, Houston, Texas
08-30-1896 - Raymond Massey - Toronto,  - d. 7-29-1983
actor, host: "Doctor Fights"; "Harvest of Stars"
08-31-1897 - Sidney Ellstrom - Chicago, IL - d. 7-29-1968
actor: "Captain Midnight"; "Flying Patrol"; "Lights Out"
10-13-1910 - Tex McCrary - Calvert, TX - d. 7-29-2003
interviewer: "Hi Jinx"; "Tex & Jinx"
12-02-1899 - John Barbirolli - London, England - d. 7-29-1970
conductor: "New York Philharmonic"
12-22-1889 - Anthony Caruso - Italy - d. 7-29-1973
composer, clarinetist: WCAU and WIP Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:07:04 -0400
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  pabstette & frizz

Ted's post on Pabstette prompts this question: What the heck was Frizz? How
did it taste? It couldn't have been very good. If it had been any good at
all we'd have something similar on the market today. Both Pabstette and
Frizz were advertised on the Great Gildersleeve show. Frizz was something
made by Kraft to which you added milk and sugar and put in the freezer to
make your own ice cream. What was it made out of? Anybody remember sampling
it?

Mike Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:07:52 -0400
From: herbop@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  [removed] "the rest of the story"
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Bob Watson asked about an OTR product that "was discussed a few years
ago in the [removed]"
I think I found the posts he remembered at
[removed]
The last post was this one. Hope it helps.

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:25 am
Post subject: RE: PABST-ETT mystery cheese product
-- --------
Well here is the skinny on [removed] December 31st,1923 Pabst
Corporation acquired the business of the Sheboygan Beverage Company
to continue the soft drink and Pablo [removed] no hope of
Repeal,Gustav Pabst resigned as President on December 23,[removed]
Pabst returned to the brewery as President to try saving the family
[removed] December 1923,Fred sold his cheese division of Pabst Farms
with assets chiefly in the form of bulk cheese inventory,to the Pabst
[removed] cheese was produced at the Pabst Farms,but the
brewery used the cellars to age [removed] salesman,trained in
selling beer,found it difficult to readjust to sell the new
[removed] the help of advertising and strong campaigns,the cheese
business thrived during [removed] with 33 employees in
1925,the brewery employed 176 by [removed] was sold in three
forms,Pabst wonder process cheese,Pabst-ett and pasteurized package
[removed] was the most [removed] 1930 over 8 million
pounds of Pabs-ett had been [removed] Foods sued Pabst claiming
Pabst had infringed on a Kraft patent for process [removed] won
the case in [removed] two companies entered into a licensing agreement
in which Pabst-ett,a product similar to Velveeta,continued to be
produced in Wisconsin,but was sold through [removed] cheese operation
was disbanded with the end of Prohibition in [removed] bought out
the Pabst cheese operations,and Pabst started to get back in to the
beer [removed] you have the rest of the [removed]

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:08:25 -0400
From: "Bill Wilson" <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR actors on TV ...

My favorite has always been Harry Bartell.  I enjoy identifying Harry by
voice in OTR programs like "Gunsmoke" and "Nero Wolfe," and then spotting him
on television.  My favorites are his appearances on "Wild Wild West" (as
Professor Nielsen, the ill-fated first victim of supervillain Dr. Loveless)
and as the billiards expert that the Chief hires to teach Maxwell Smart how
to play pool.  One of "Get Smart"'s most classic lines is when the Chief
arrives to see how Max is progressing, and sees Harry bandaged in three
places.  Max then tells him that his instructor is a little accident prone!

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:08:32 -0400
From: "William Ronald Harker" <wrharker@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Fat Man
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>From "Dashiell Hammett:  Lost Stories."  Hammett allowed the producers to
feature his name in the show's credits and publicity.  For that, he received
a healthy weekly payment.  Many people assumed he wrote or at least edited
the scripts, but the only writing Hammett did for the show as signing his
name on paychecks."

Bill Harker

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:12:36 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hall of Fantasy - Organ and Kettle Drums

Hi Gang -

In issue 184, Travis  inquired about the Hall of Fantasy openings.  In the 
original programs,  which originated at WGN, Chicago, the opening music was 
played by Harold Turner  on the WGN Studio Pipe Organ.  Hal also provided the 
incidental music  throughout the program and the closing music.  I recorded some 
of these  programs off the air at the time of broadcast in the early 1950's.   

In or about 1965, I received a telephone call from Richard Thorne (a  
stage/professional name), the writer/producer/actor of the Hall of  Fantasy.  He 
asked me for copies of these programs so that he could  re-issue them for 
broadcast.   I presume he had other sources of  recordings as well, because the 
re-broadcasts were much better sound quality  than the ones I had recorded.  Also, 
my recordings had rather "sloppy"  beginnings due to my equipment, my youth,  
and my inexperience.  

Anyhow, he offered to pay me for the recordings, but I told him that  they 
belonged to him in the first place, and I sent him copies of what I  had.  A few 
years later the re-issued series came out with the Kettle Drums  opening.  
Except for the opening and closing, the programs sounded to me  the same as the 
original broadcasts.  

Of course, I cannot say with  authority that none of the programs were 
re-acted with the same or different  cast members on the "kettle drum" broadcasts, 
but it appears to me that  everything except the missing organ music was 
original.     

I don't know why the organ music was not used on some of the re-issued  
programs.  Perhaps it had to do with music broadcast rights at the  time.  I do 
know that the WGN Studio Pipe Organ still exists.  It was  physically moved and 
re-assembled at Bradley Place when WGN re-located  there.  It was not moved 
back to Tribune Tower when WGN radio moved  back.  It's still at Bradley Place 
(as far as I know).  I attended a  "concert" by Hal Turner some years ago.  The 
organ sounded great.  

By the way, the "Hangman's Rope" is my favorite Hall of  Fantasy episode.  I 
once played it for the neighborhood kids.  One of  the kids ran into the next 
room so that he could see the pictures on the  TV.  I told him there were no 
pictures.  He was not  disappointed.  He listened intently to the rest of the 
tape.  Later,  he asked me to play it again. 

Happy Taping --  Ken Piletic -  Streamwood, Illinois  and  Alma, Arkansas  

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:13:08 -0400
From: <vzeo0hfk@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Himan Brown

I did an interview of Hi Brown years ago when I was researching my book,
WORDS AT WAR. He was a real pip. Bob Cockrum was right that he did not want
to look back. I also remember that when I asked him a question about Norman
Corwin, Brown responded, "Who's Norman Corwin?" I was shocked by the question
until I realized that he was being sarcastic -- and revealing most likely a
dash of jealousy.

All that notwithstanding, Brown was one of the great creative and prolific
forces in radio. He brought at least one excellent radio writer, Millard
Lampell into radio, and he worked with a large number of excellent actors.

Howard Blue

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:13:14 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR Digest

Bob Burchett's Old Time Radio Digest, issue #122, Summer of 2008 just arrived
in the mail. Among the articles is part one of a reprint from a 1935 issue of
Radio Guide titled "Amos 'n' Andy: Here They Are."

OTR Digest
10280 Gunpowder Road
Florence, KY 41042

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:39:19 -0400
From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Oh those in-jokes

In the first episode of "The Line Up" from 7/20/1950, the first criminal is
named "John Meston"

Meston, of course, would become the head writer of Gunsmoke. Mort Fine and
David Friedkin, I bet, had lots of inside stuff in their scripts.

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