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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 127
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Today in radio history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Radio Related TV Shows [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
RE: Roosevelt vs. the Penguin [ Pat Albright <albright11@earthlink. ]
New and Uncirculated Shows [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
Re: A&A Radio-to-TV Adaptations [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Walden the book worm :) [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
Other shows. [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
The babe from Berkeley [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
new Snooks cds are here! [ "Ben Ohmart" <bloodbleeds@[removed] ]
Did Orson Welles do Basil Zaharoff? [ passage@[removed] ]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:35:29 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history
From Those Were The Days --
1941 - The first contract for advertising on a commercial FM radio
station began on W71NY in New York City.
1949 - The first all-black-cast variety show was presented on WENR-TV in
Chicago, IL. The show was called Happy Pappy.
From Remembering When --
1947 - Don "Uncle Don" Carney, at the end of his daily children's program,
thinking his mic was closed said, "There, that oughta hold the little
bastards!" WOR was immediately flooded with thousands of telegrams from
outraged listeners, and the humiliated host was fired before the day was out.
Joe
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:35:36 -0500
From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Radio Related TV Shows
Re: Kevin Michaels' recent posting about the Odd Couple producing a
latter-day take on OTR. That episode was scripted by Mr. "Big Broadcast"
himself--Frank Buxton.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:12:59 -0500
From: Pat Albright <albright11@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: Roosevelt vs. the Penguin
John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; wrote:
and possibly even his waddling walk (though I know Roosevelt tried to keep his
advancing paralysis secret)
Actually, FDR could not walk at all. His paralysis wasn't advancing; it was
complete. He trained all his sons, and later the secret service agents who
protected him, to walk next to him and make it look as though he were
walking. In actual fact, he had developed his upper body to where he had
the strength lean on the person walking with him with one arm and use a cane
in the opposite hand and thus support his weight. Thrusting his upper body
forward, right side then left side, gave the illusion that his legs were
moving. He practiced years during his recovery to pull off this illusion.
What changed late in his Presidency was the strength he needed to support
himself; he became too weak. Refer to the two-part FDR presentation on the
PBS-TV show, "The American Experience."
If the Penguin had been created with FDR in mind, I sure he would have been
delighted by the thought. I'm not sure how the American people would have
felt, however. It's a very intriguing theory.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:15:28 -0500
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: New and Uncirculated Shows
At the First Generation Radio Archives, we're always excited when we find
new and uncirculated radio programs, but this is a discovery I thought
you'd really want to know about.
Thanks to the research efforts of Elizabeth McLeod and the technical skill
of long-time collector and transfer technician Karl Pearson, the First
Generation Radio Archives is pleased to announce the recent acquisition of
the entire catalog of "Bulova Watch Time" hourly time signal announcements.
The announcements, which were not previously thought to have been recorded
for posterity, have come to us on thousands of 12" and 16" electrical
transcriptions. Only a small number of these rare and historic
announcements have been heard since their original broadcast - some are
well over 60 years old - and we are pleased to report that most of them are
in excellent condition. Over time, we will be transferring them to audio
compact discs and making each of them individually available through our
libraries - one per CD.
Bulova Watch Time hourly time signal announcements were one of the
best-loved features of old-time radio and their precise spelling of the
word B-U-L-O-V-A was perfectly suited to the medium. During World War II,
Bulova Watch Time announcements kept Rosie The Riveter on time for her job
at Lockheed, made certain that people made it to weddings, funerals, or
simply just to lunch on time, and millions of ordinary Americans in all
walks of life confidently set their clocks by these announcements. Even
today, many older Americans speak fondly of these familiar time checks and
can often remember where they were and what they were doing when they first
heard some of them.
Also included in the collection are a unique series of never-before-heard
celebrity time signals, demonstrating the radio talents of some legendary
historic figures not normally associated with the medium. Well known stars
like Sonny Tufts, Asher and Little Jimmy, Harpo Marx, Tito Guizar, and Eb
'n' Zeb are featured, along with politicians like Judge Crater, Boss Tweed,
Mayor James J. "Jimmy" Walker, and Fiorello LaGuardia. Also heard are such
diverse personalities as Helen Keller, Gertrude Ederle, and Mahatma Gandhi.
Of greatest interest are the outtakes or "bloopers" discovered on the
disks, which the Bulova Company has lovingly archived all these years, as
well as both the eastern and western broadcasts of many familiar hours of
the day - some with significant changes between the two versions. All are
exactly as they were heard on some of the most significant days in the
history of the 20th century.
We hope you'll consider joining the First Generation Radio Archives to hear
these classic moments in radio history, as well as the many other
entertaining shows in our CD library collections.
Harlan
Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:14:05 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: A&A Radio-to-TV Adaptations
On 4/1/02 9:40 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:
The thread about recycled radio scripts causes me to
wonder: How many of the Amos 'n' Andy TV shows were
based on plots from the radio show: All? Many? Or just
some? I know at least some were because I recall a TV
plot about A & A's parking-lot business that was
familiar to me from the radio show.
I've been able to confirm that the following half-hour A&A sitcom
episodes were adapted for TV:
I-9: 12/3/1943 The Counterfeiters
I-12 12/24/1943 Christmas Show.
I-31 5/5/1944 The Broken Clock
VI-2 10/17/1948 The House Without A Lot ("House Moving Show")
VI-13 1/2/1949 The Superfine Brush Company
VI-15 1/16/1949 The Rare Nickel ("Rare Coin Show") (This was selected
as the pilot episode for the TV series.)
VII-2 10/9/1949 The Kingfish's Secretary
VII-10 12/4/1949 A Letter By Mistake
VII-19 2/5/1950 Is Sapphire Expecting?
VII-26 3/26/1950 The Happy Stevenses
VIII-1 10/1/1950 Kingfish Is Drafted ("The Draft Board")
VIII-2 10/8/1950 Kingfish In The Service ("Kingfish Enlistment")
VIII-11 12/10/1950 Sapphire's Fur Coat
VIII-14 12/31/1950 Sapphire in Miami
VIII-17 1/21/1951 Mama and Hubert Smithers I
VIII-18 1/28/1951 Mama and Hubert Smithers II
VIII-19 2/4/1951 The New Parking Lot
VIII-22 2/25/1951 Andy Meets Girl's Mother
VIII-35 5/27/1951 The Jewelry Store Robbery
None of these scripts were done verbatim on television -- various
adjustments and changes had to be made to adapt them for visual use,
especially the addition of Abbott-and-Costello-style sight gags: people
running around the room and bumping into each other, getting stuck in
doorways, etc. (At least one TV sight gag, the
Kingfish-and-Andy-change-a-tire bit in Part II of the "Hubert Smithers"
episode, was lifted almost shot-for-shot from "Check and Double Check.")
The few pre-1948 episodes that were adapted for TV had even more
significant changes, to bring them into line with the louder, broader
tone the program took on after CBS took over creative control.
Elizabeth
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:38:23 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Walden the book worm :)
Walden Hughes posted:
Hal mention in the last digest that he was in the Nichol Family. I know of
at least one copy of that show exist because I sent a copy of the 12-7-41 to
Hal,
Yes, you did do just that, old friend. (Or should I say "Young Friend). But
I thought I e-mailed you with my thanks a long time ago. If I
[removed] accept my sincere apologies.
Walden then goes on to [removed]
and I,m still waiting to hear if Hal has any remembrance of that day,
or do I need to wait and buy Hal book when its comes out.
First things first. As far as my having any remembrances of that day, I must
confess I don't. However, I do recall a few things about working on the
series, but only one specific script. (And yes, I'm saving that for "the
book"). You have to remember, [removed] I was a pint sized kid at the time.
And I also found something strange about listening to the tape you sent me.
I didn't recognize my voice!!!!
Now, I don't know this for a fact, but here is what might have happened.
When I was cast by NBC as the youngest son on that show, it was titled "The
Nichols family of five". It eventually was sponsored by Vicks, and became
the "Vicks Family of Five". (Which was an episode of that sponsored show you
sent me). It's quite possible that during the run of the original series, I
was cast in a Stage Play, (for more money) and left NY to go out on tour,
and they hired someone to replace me. I was age 9 back in 12-7-41.
[removed] was Pearl Harbor day. Hmmmm. Was the show broadcast on a
Sunday?
Now getting back to your comment about "Needing to buy the book to get the
answers". Walden, I'd just as soon "give away" copies to my friends, but I'd
go broke in a heartbeat. [removed] if you don't mind my bringing this up.
You are visually impaired. What good will the book do you. I know you don't
let your being sightlessness interfere with your life, (Much like my other
buddies, the Gassman Brothers), but inquiring minds need to know.
In this mindblowing world of Computers, is there some kind of software
program that permits you to scan a page, then convert into your "Talking
computer"?
Love to your Mom and Dad. (and save a little for yourself).
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:39:20 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Other shows.
Ron Sales posted;
I was browsing through the book "Same Time, Same Station" by Ron Lackman and
he mentions Hal Stone as doing four shows. We all know about Archie, but he
is
also mentioned under The Aldrich Family, Big Town and Death Valley Days. He
is
not listed with character names so I would assume he was part of a group who
regularly appeared on these shows when needed.
Right on target, Ron. Actually part of a LARGE GROUP of child actors who
were available to perform in [removed] Radio Broadcasting at the time. Remember,
I was still a young kid (8-12) but I probably worked on 40 different shows
during that period. And many of them for no "Credits".
The way Radio worked back then, whenever the story line (for any program)
needed a young kid for a line or two, , (somebody's Son, younger brother,
Orphan, Nephew, or "mixed-up child" on a Soap Opera), there were probably 20
child actors who could have handled the role. Provided their voice fit the
approximate age range that was required. Then too, even older boys, who
could manipulate their voices to "play younger", increased the competition.
Sometimes, auditions would be held if it was going to be a running part
(brief or long term). But quite often, Directors had their favorites, (based
on experience having worked with them in the past) and simply booked them
for minor "one time" bit parts if they felt that they were right for the
role. Hey, I don't wish to give the impression that I was any better than
most of the other "Kid" actors back then. I probably lost more auditions
than I won. But that was the nature of the business back then (and now), and
an indication of the depth of the competition. Many of my friends among the
Child Acting fraternity went on to substantial careers in TV and films. Me,
I wanted a career "behind" the TV camera. It was a far more interesting and
fulfilling activity as far as I was concerned. (not to [removed]
greater "Financial" security). For every Kid actor who continued their
career in Show Biz, at least 3 or 4 had to find employment in other fields.
Such was, and is, the nature of the Acting profession.
When you stop and think of all the kids that earned their Radio Acting spurs
on "Let's pretend", and "Coast to Coast on a Bus", the field was quite
crowded. (And not that many parts for kids on the Drama's of the day). Then
too, many kids came out of Stage Plays during that period. I had a lot of
Theatrical experience before appearing on radio, which prepared me for Lets
Pretend, and other Radio shows. I just was too young to pay attention to the
shows I was hired to do, and the parts I played.
Of course, that all changed when I got the part of "Jughead" at the tender
age of 13. That sure was steady work for 10 years.
Hope this clears things up about a "life" other than "Jughead". :)
Hal(Harlan)Stone
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:39:40 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The babe from Berkeley
Irene Heinstein, (the poor misguided [removed] Giants & Polo Ground retread)
[removed] >
I found 10 more Archie programs that are out there.
Looking at the lists you posted, Irene, I have the feeling that there may be
some duplication.
It appears that some of the titles have been been changed between the two
lists. For example, is it possible that "Flat Tire" and "Tire Jack" could be
one and the same? And what about "Shop Lifting" and "Christmas Shopping".
If my supposition is correct, let me know when you get the chance. Thanks!
By the [removed] I mention that I am now a heavy duty Arizona
"Diamondbacks" [removed] He! he!
I guess we showed the Giants. And did it a lot quicker than my old Dodger
team was able to do. :)
Oh well, you can borrow the expression that we poor old Brooklyn Dodger fans
had to use all too [removed] "Wait till next year".
Forgive my crowing about it. That comes from many years of frustration
rooting for "Dem Bums".
Peace!
Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:04:14 -0500
From: "Ben Ohmart" <bloodbleeds@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: new Snooks cds are here!
Just got a bunch of unopened Baby Snooks cds from [removed]! I'm
offering them officially because [removed] isn't set up to take paypal
yet. So if you'd like to order online, please go to
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If you want to pay by check or phone, you can visit
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2 cds for $[removed] and no US postage!
Thanks.
The Great Gildersleeve book
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:28:13 -0500
From: passage@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Did Orson Welles do Basil Zaharoff?
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Hi All,
I received this query from cyclope@[removed]:
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I'm trying to find out whether Orson Welles impersonated the armaments
king
Basil Zaharoff (in THE MARCH OF TIMES) and if yes where could I find it.
If you know anything about it please give me the needed infos.
(It was his job to impersonate the voices of Abyssinian Emperor Haile
Selassie,
German President Hindenburg, Armaments King Basil Zahaoff, and Japans
Imperial
Ruler Hirohito on THE MARCH OF TIMES).
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Any takers?
Frank
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