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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 281
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  RE DICK HAYMES BIRTHDATE              [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Paper use                             [ jackbenny@[removed] ]
  WWII ADVERTISING                      [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  THE COLONEL                           [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Mary Patton                           [ Richard Hall <rhall@[removed]; ]
  SCRIPT IN HAND                        [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  Re: Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show    [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  DOROTHY KILGALLEN                     [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  LSMFT/XM/ETC.                         [ "--" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show        [ "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed]; ]
  Green Hornet question                 [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed] ]
  Kraft Music Hall                      [ Jandpgardner@[removed] ]
  9-15 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Deaths in August                      [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Robert Wise                           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Kraft Music Hall with Sabu            [ "William D. Clark" <wclark4121@stic ]
  Unsolicited praise                    [ Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed] ]
  Jane Monheit's new album Oct 18th no  [ "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed]; ]
  Barry Hill collection                 [ "RICHARD RIEVE" <Rieve9@[removed]; ]
  There is nothing new under the sun.   [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  The Jungle Book                       [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:58:44 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE DICK HAYMES BIRTHDATE

Gordon Jenkins was assigned The Dick Haymes Show -- told me Dick was a
much better singer than Sinatra.  He and Tom Adair wrote special material
for the Haymes show--said it was a bear, coming up with clever 'soap
operas' day after day!

[removed]
          Sandy
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:11 -0400
From: jackbenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Paper use
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In the April 1943 issue, the editor announced that the
magazine would return to its former size because of war-caused shortages of
essential metals used in type and the government's request for magazine
publishers to
reduce their paper use.

At the risk of being off topic, this was also done to some degree during WWI.
Specifically, song publisher Leo Feist published some small versions (about 5
x 7, IIRC) of certain song sheets (the ones in my collection are all
war-related songs like "The Rose of No Man's Land") with a little notice on
the front indicating that they were publishing in small format to support the
war effort.

Interestingly enough, I don't recall any sheet music being published in
similarly small format during WWII.

Over here,
Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:37 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WWII ADVERTISING

Breakfast Club's, Don McNeal, came up with a brilliant idea.  He created
the 'NO CIGARETTES' brand, and did spoof commercials re the shortage of
ciggie's in the US.

[removed]
          Sandy
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:46 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  THE COLONEL

Just remembered the name of that show, I think!  Chicago Theater Of The
Air.

[removed]
          Sandy
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:02:49 -0400
From: Richard Hall <rhall@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mary Patton

I'm looking for information about Mary Patton for a friend (A distant
relative to Ms. Patton)and find very little. I've probably found most of
her credits, Please Don't Eat the Daisies being one. She was active in
the 40's and appeared on The Fat Man and in X Minus One's "The Veldt"
and "The Snowball Effect."

Here's all the info my friend could come up with. She'd be thrilled to
know more.

"She was married to Warren Parker(the credits of one of
the shows you sent lists both of them). Her legal name
was Mary Parker, stage name Mary Patton--I think her
maiden name. You'd think I would know."

Thanks,
Richard Hall

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:03:04 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  SCRIPT IN HAND

AFRA's contract called for 'so much time for rehearsal' without extra $$$
to the actors--one reason they didn't memorize, and a pretty good one!

[removed]
          Sandy
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:30:56 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show

One of the members here gave me some Dorothy Kilgallen tapes to transfer to
CD. These were roughly 15 or 20 minutes per show and she and her husband
would just sit and talk about a whole bunch of different stuff. That is the
best way I could describe them. When I have more time, later this week, I
will list the different subjects that they covered.

Fred
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:31:21 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  DOROTHY KILGALLEN

Sinatra had a long running total hate for Kilgallen.  When he was in the
studio recording September Of My Years [for which Jenkins won a Grammy
for best arranging--the album won for best--song, It Was A Very Good
Year, and best cover -- a true sweep.  Gordy told me, he and Sinatra were
'just the right age to do this album'] Sinatra  tried doing the verse to
It Gets Lonely, Doesn't It--screwed up royally, said, "I think Kilgallen
wrote this, just to screw me up."  After 8 attempts, he finally got it
right, but the verse was cut on the released product.

[removed]
          Sandy
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:40:30 -0400
From: "--" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  LSMFT/XM/ETC.

I have to agree with Bill H. ... seems Michael's assessment of Bill's
gullibility was a bit overdrawn. Bill was (is) one of the sharper tacks in
the Vintage Radio & Phonograph Society. But I agree with Michael ... at
least that's the story we were often told in advertising class, Lucky Strike
green didn't go to war, it went to wherever outdated ad campaigns go ...
that a survey revealed a white package was perceived as cleaner, fresher
(perhaps smoother, rounder, firmer, free and easy on the draw?).

-0-

XM Radio. I certainly have no intention of subscribing to it, but on long
drives across Texas, if you don't like country and western music or
aimless/idiotic conservative/liberal talk, talk, talk radio, you're out of
luck. That's why I take my OTR tapes along. But XM might be right for some
folks ... the casually interested-in-OTR or, now that I think about it,
maybe myself at a younger, not-yet-collecting stage of my life. Truth is, I
don't collect much anymore. As I've grown older, I question myself about the
need for acquiring stuff. It isn't like I have the original transcriptions
or tapes with added historic significance. I do appreciate the programs for
the art and science and journalism they represent. But since I can't take
them with me (aside from those road trips), I have to ask, does anyone even
want this stuff after I'm gone? I offered my collection to a university once
... not interested ... no money to properly preserve, no place to put them,
etc. So until the proper time comes, I will continue to enjoy them close at
hand.

-0-

Actors before the mike. I've heard good and bad, old and new audio
presentations. Those that did sound like they were reading and those who
were really into it. Sorry, but listening to the Lone Ranger, I do see them
(mostly) at the ol' RCA 44's. Jimmy Stewart in The Six Shooter (and the
other exceptional ones that come to mind), yep, I'm there with them making
their way along that rocky ledge. My biggest gripe with the new time radio
continues to be the music and sound effects ... most times they need only
suggest a mood, an action ... I'm not in a movie theater ... the theater of
my mind would appreciate a little more subtle rendering.

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:10:26 -0400
From: "mike ray" <mikeray42@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show

Hi Gang:
Yesteday our good friend Dennis Crow talked about Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio
Show. Dennis was right on the Money. She also had morning show in New York
with her husband Boston Blackie (Dick Kolmar). My understanding is that they
worked very well together "on air."
Best regards,
Mike Ray

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:28:25 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Green Hornet question
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I am trying to date a Green Hornet episode about a phony testing laboratory.
Radiogoldindex gives a probable date of 10-10-40, but is not sure. At the end
of the show, the announcer says:

This drama concludes our Green Hornet series for the Mutual Broadcasting
System. Next Tuesday, however, at this same time, Ned Jordan, Secret Agent
will be heard over most of these stations.

Any ideas?

Visit [removed] for OTR program title and date corrections

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:28:33 -0400
From: Jandpgardner@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Kraft Music Hall
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Ted asks the date of Bing's 'Kraft Music Hall' show with Mary Martin  and
Victor Borge and Sabu as a guest in 1942. A 'Google' search within a  few
seconds
gives the date of this show as 16 April 1942 and that is the date I  have on
my copy of it.
John.

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:28:43 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  9-15 births/deaths

September 15th births

09-15-1876 - Bruno Walter - Berlin, Germany - d. 2-17-1962
conductor: "Salzburg Music Festival"; "Word from the People"; "New York
Philharmonic"
09-15-1889 - Robert Benchley - Worcester, MA - d. 11-21-1945
comedian: "Buick Program"; "Melody and Madness"
09-15-1890 - Agatha Christie - Torquay, England - d. 1-12-1976
author: Creator of "Hercule Poirot"
09-15-1894 - Edwin Cooper - Illinois - d. 2-2-1984
actor: "The Eddie Bracken Show"
09-15-1899 - Dr. Milton Eisenhower - Abilene, KS - d. 5-2-1985
doctor: (Brother of Ike) "Second Seagram's Symposium"; "Meet the Press"
09-15-1903 - Roy Acuff - Maynardsville, TN - d. 11-23-1992
singer: (The King of Country Music) "Grand Ole Opry"
09-15-1904 - Sheilah Graham - London, England - d. 11-17-1988
gossip columnist: Intermission Guest :Lux Radio Theatre"
09-15-1904 - Tom Conway - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 4-22-1967
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"; Simon Templar "The Saint"
09-15-1906 - Kathryn Murray - Jersey City, NJ - d. 8-6-1999
hostess: "Advs. of Ellery Queen"
09-15-1907 - Jack Bailey - Hampton, IA - d. 2-1-1980
emcee: "Queen for a Day"; "Truth or Consequences"
09-15-1908 - Penny Singleton - Phildelphia, PA - d. 11-13-2003
actress: Blondie Bumstead "Blondie" Penny Williamson "Penny Singleton Show"
09-15-1909 - Frank Richards - New York City, NY - d. 4-15-1992
actor: "I Love A Mystery"
09-15-1915 - John Conte - Palmer, MA (R. Los Angeles, CA)
emcee: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Maxwell House Coffee Time"; "John Conte Show"
09-15-1915 - Phil Brito - Boomer, WV
narrator: "Moon River"
09-15-1916 - Margaret Lockwood - Karachi, British India - d. 7-15-1990
actress: "A Christmas Carol"
09-15-1919 - Nelson Giddings - New York City, NY - d. 5-1-2004
writer: "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon"
09-15-1921 - Jackie Cooper - Los Angeles, CA
actor: "Campbell Playhouse"; "George Jessel Show"; "Voice of the Army"
09-15-1923 - Arvell Shaw - St. Louis, MO - d. 12-5-2002
jazz bassist: "Floor Show"; "Damon Runyon Memorial Concert"; "Jubilee"
09-15-1924 - Bobby Short - Danville, IL - d. 3-21-2005
singer: Sang on Chicago radio at beginning of his career
09-15-1928 - Cannonball Adderley - Tampa, FL - d. 8-8-1975
jazz saxphonist: "Voices of Vista"

September 15th deaths

01-20-1896 - Rolfe Sedan - New York City, NY - d. 9-15-1982
actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"; "Mystery in the Air"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
02-09-1930 - Garner Ted Armstrong - Portland, OR - d. 9-15-2003
preacher: (Son of Herbert W. Armstrong) "Plain Truth"; "The World Tomorrow"
02-17-1914 - Larry Douglas - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-15-1996
actor, singer: "Here's to Romance"
03-06-1916 - Virginia Gregg - Harrisburg, IL - d. 9-15-1986
actress: Helen Asher "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"
04-24-1905 - Robert Penn Warren - Guthrie, KY - d. 9-15-1989
author: (All the King's Men) "NBC University Theatre"
08-14-1911 - Ken Nordine - d. 9-15-1993
announcer: "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"; "The Breakfast Club"
08-20-1908 - Andre Baruch - Paris, France - d. 9-15-1991
announcer, disc jockey: "Your Hit Parade"; "Kate Smith Program"; "Myrt and
Marge"
09-25-1895 - Jack Denny - Indiana - d. 9-15-1950
music: "The American Revue"; "The Harry Richman Show"
10-05-1904 - John Hoyt - Bronxville, NY - d. 9-15-1991
actor: "Escape"; "Suspense"
11-11-1906 - Harry Holcomb - Malta, OH - d. 9-15-1987
director, narrator: "Curtain Time; "Dr. [removed], The Mental Banker"; "Moon River"
11-26-1891 - Anne Nichols - Dales Mill, GA - d. 9-15-1966
writer: "Abie's Irish Rose"
12-13-1915 - Mark Stevens - Cleveland, OH (Raised: Montreal Canada) - d.
9-15-1994
actor: "This Is Hollywood"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Suspense"
xx-xx-1880 - Gertrude Bondhill - Cincinnati, OH - d. 9-15-1960
actress: Dal Tremaine's Mother "Arnold Grimm's Daughter"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:29:12 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Deaths in August

07-29-1938 - Peter Jennings - Toronto, Canada - d. 8-7-2005
news broadcaster: "When Conventions Were Conventions"
10-31-1922 - Barbara Bel Geddes - New York City, NY - d. 8-8-2005
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Ford Theatre"; "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Cavalcade
of America"
07-02-1927 - Brock Peters - New York City, NY - d. 8-23-2005
actor: Darth Vader "Star Wars"; "Earplay"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:29:53 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Robert Wise
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Altho' he wasn't necessarily OTR, legendary film director Robert Wise died
yesterday (14) in
Los Angeles four days after his 91st birthday. One could make the case that
Wise was remotely
connected to OTR in these degrees of separation:  his most famous film "The
Sound of Music"
was about the Von Trapp Family Singers, who sang on radio; he edited "Citizen
Kane" which
featured Orson Welles and Welles's Mercury Theater of the Air friends; "The
Day the Earth
Stood still" was probably done on "Lux"; Wise's largely forgotten 1976 film
"The Hindenburg"
definitely has a radio connection via Herb Morrison.

The Baltimore Sun had a nice write-up for Mr. Wise:
[removed],1,[removed]

Yours in the ether!

Derek Tague

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:51:06 -0400
From: "William D. Clark" <wclark4121@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Kraft Music Hall with Sabu

Ted pondered:

But the biggest clue involves Sabu.  They mentioned that his latest movie,
"Jungle Book," had just opened the same day as the broadcast!!

The Internet Movie Data Base ( [removed] ) lists the date of release for
The Jungle Book as April 3, 1942. The film was re-released Feb. 3, 1948.

Dale

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:38:38 -0400
From: Richard Carpenter <newsduck@[removed];
To: Old Radio <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Unsolicited praise

Forty-five dollars is a lot to spend for a book, but
in the case of "The Original Amos 'n' Andy" by
Elizabeth McLeod, it is money well spent. The book,
subtitled "Freeman Gosden, Charles Correll and the
1928-1943 Radio Serial," presents a different Amos 'n'
Andy than most of us are familiar with. Instead of the
buffoonery that characterized the half-hour sitcom,
the 15-minute radio serial was warmer, subtler, and in
many ways more compelling, as the many script excerpts
incluided in the book show. Along with an exploration
of this kinder, gentler program, the book tells the
story of the long and fruitful partnership of Gosden
and Correll and includes photos you've never seen
before, plus a trove of supplementary material. If
you're really into old time radio, this book is for you.

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:40:09 -0400
From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jane Monheit's new album Oct 18th notes

FYI:

Jane Monheit's
THE SEASON WILL BE RELEASED ON BOTH CD AND DualDisc
The CD Audio Side of the DualDisc features the entire album The Season
The DVD Side of the DualDisc includes:
* 20-minute stylized staged piece, set up as an old time radio broadcast of
a Christmas special, featuring Jane performing 4 songs on a holiday-designed
stage intercut with interview segments.
* Featured songs on the DVD side: The Man With The Bag, Merry Christmas
Darling, This Christmas and My Grown-Up Christmas List.

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:42:05 -0400
From: "RICHARD RIEVE" <Rieve9@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Barry Hill collection

It was good to read Dave Siegel's recent post about the Barry Hill OTR
collection.  It is good news that it is in the hands of someone who knows
the worth of the collection and will treat it with care.  The only thing
that would be better is if Barry, as fine a gentleman and as easy going a
friend as one could ask for, were still with us.  No OTR convention will be
the same without him.

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:38:31 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  There is nothing new under the sun.

From: doug doug@[removed]

Anyway,  OTR takes me places where NTR just can't.

Dear Doug-

With  the greatest of respect for the Classic Era (and it's Vets, who I will
be  honored to share the mic with again next month), AND with an appreciation
for  the wonderful medium that Audio Drama still is (or can be, when
approached with  respect & diligence), I strongly suggest that you change
your  -

"...just can'[removed]"

- to a -

"...doesn't often  [removed]"

That formulation, alas, I would agree with. And more's the  pity.

Best,
-Craig Wichman
Quicksilver Radio Theater

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:40:04 -0400
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Jungle Book
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IMDB (International Movie Data Base) should have the information you desire.
Just click onto [removed] have information such as Premier dates, release
dates, casts, etc;etc;I'm very sure they have "Sabu" and "The Jungle Book."
If not, Just go to "Google" and type in "The Jungle Book" movie, or
"Sabu."Someone has to have it, because it was very popular back in the early
1940's.  Good Luck!

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