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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 235
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Memories of old time [removed]         [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Lone Ranger in the National Recordin  [ "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@earthli ]
  Gracie for President                  [ Rentingnow@[removed] ]
  Groucho's 30th                        [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Pat Hosley                            [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  Ed Walker recordings.                 [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  8-14 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Phil Rizzuto                          [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:01:38 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Memories of old time [removed]
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  From: [removed]
  To: tkneebone1@[removed]

  Why do just people in their 60's have a repository of information?

  I am not yet 50 (I think I will stay not yet 50) but anyone who worked in
radio or music in the 1980's still had contact with lp's and 45's.  My kids
know about records because I have a turntable in plain sight and they have
seen the lp's and 45's.  In fact, I don't go as far back as some but I
remember when the "singles" were on 45's and the 45's were four for a dollar.
Then came cassette singles and then (now) cd singles.

    It's good to know that people younger than 60 (I'm 73) remember or know
about other forms of media.  I don't really go back farther than 78s, but I
have seen and heard cylinders, and player pianos and their rolls.  I receive
the 78-L and sometimes wade thru their banter, serial numbers and all that.
    My kids (48 and 40) collected 45s and LPs -- which they left with me.
Todd started his own LP collection, and even bought some classical stuff to go
along with his LPs of the 1970s.  And so did Nancy, but she and her kids
didn't really get into music all that much.  Her kids play video and computer
games.  She is too busy with the kids and teaching to listen to much music.
    It bothers me that people get their music by downloading from the
computer.  My career was as a librarian and teacher.  The "Library Journal" in
the early 1960s predicted that the physical book would become obsolete, and
all printed material would be read from microfilm on a microfilm reader.  I
didn't believe that prediction.  Part of the joy of reading is holding a book.
Reading from a microfilm reader requires the body of a gymnast -- at least for
reading newspapers.  The photocopies from them were often nearly unreadable.
I feel the same way about getting my music from a cpu.  I want to touch the
tapes, the discs or whatever media the music or OTR comes from -- originally.
I want to buy it or trade it.  However, I don't mind downloading radio
programs.
    I have read of OTR traders who have collections running into 5 digits --
and they haven't even heard all the shows.  I prefer to trade until I get the
best quality possible of a favorite show.  My 7000 titles are OK with me.
There are probably only a few hundred shows that I listen to regularly.  The
rest are for trade, like having the right change.  Some traders are converting
all their cassettes to CDs -- for me, the cassettes still work.
    As far as modern music is concerned, I like some rock and jazz; can't
stand rap.  It isn't music.  Modern classical music stopped for me with
Stravinsky, Gould, Barber, Bartok, and a few others.
    And radio stopped with the demise of the CBS Radio Mystery Theater.  Thank
goodness Imagination Theater is still on the air.

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:02:10 -0400
From: "joe@[removed]" <jsalerno@[removed];
To: OTR List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lone Ranger in the National Recording Registry

I read recently that an episode of the Lone Ranger has
been added to the National Recordings Registry - the ep from Dec 17 1937.

The LR recordings began in Jan 1938, so naturally I'm interested. Where
did this come from?

One source told me that the date came from Terry Salomonson who said it
was a test recording before the regular recordings began in 1938. The
date is correct to his log.

Anyone have any additional info on this?

Joe Salerno

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:23:37 -0400
From: Rentingnow@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Gracie for President

When "Say Good Night Gracie" was in NY I saw and  enjoyed it.  Came across
the mug I bought and thought to Google the  title.  Seems that it is still
being
toured but sadly without Frank Gorshin  for obvious reasons.  The odd part is
the promo doesn't mention who is  doing Burns. There is a production in
Pittsfield Mass on September 23 but alas  we have another obligation.

This is their web site.  But  surprisingly it doesn't say who is playing
George.  Has anyone seen the  post Gorsin  tour?

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Larry Moore

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:47:28 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Groucho's 30th
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While some of the cable channels are making a big deal about the 30th
anniversary of Elvis Presley's death this Thursday (16th), it's easy to
overlook that Sunday (19th) will mark the 30th anniversary of the death of
Groucho Marx.  I remember that Groucho's death three days after Elvis's had a
more profound effect on me than that of "the King."

Speaking of Groucho, our Digest pal Michael Gwynne has posted hilarious
stories about his 1970s friendship with a certain Julius H. Marx. While that
thread was going on earlier this year, Michael mentioned that he had even
funnier stories that were better told in person. [removed]

As most FOTR conventioneers know, fellow subsciber Mary Lou Wallace and I
co-host "Funny Friday," an enormous comedy panel usually featuring 5-7 guests
who are comedians, comic actors, and funny storytellers. We don't follow a
format and there are hardly any rules except against anything falling outside
the parameters of courtesy and good taste. The result usually is 75-80 minutes
of hilarity and spontaneity. With that said, I'm happy to report that Michael
Gwynne has agreed to be one of this year's "Funny Friday" panelists (on
Friday, October 19th, 2007), and Mary Lou and I shall be sure to work  his
Groucho stories into the mix. Ge there, aloha!

But, in the meantime: (aside to Mr. Gwynne)...hey, Michael, how 'bout a
Groucho story for here on the Digest in memory of the 30th anniversary of his
passing, and to tide us over for the next two months?

BTW, our old FOTR pal Will "Sugarfoot" Hutchins played Presley's buddy in the
film "Clambake." I'm sure it'll be on this week
--check the cable listings. Aside from the song "Do the Clam," this movie
really isn't as bad as its reputation might suggest. And besides, a
can't-miss-him Harold "Gildersleeve" Peary has a small role in it.

Yours in the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:06:55 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Pat Hosley
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Can someone help Pat

Dear Jay,  I have some ardent admirers of old time radio, etc. who are
wanting to start a radio station on an island off the coast of New London
Connecticut.  How does one go about this?  Please advise.
Fondly, Pat  [removed](Kibbe)
The population is only about 200 in the winter, but thousands in the summer.
There is a [removed] that be used [removed];kibbep>

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:07:29 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ed Walker recordings.

jo asked about Ed Walker and MANC.

Yes, Ed is scheduled to attend the Mid-Atlantic Nostalgia Convention.  His
career in radio is extremely impressive.  I have always felt Ed's work on
radio is equalled his good pal Willard Scott's TV work.  And yes, we wrote
to Willard Scott to see if he'll attend one afternoon to help with a "Joy
Boys" reunion.

Robert Bybee is in charge of Ed Walker's Joy Boys recordings.  His e-mail
address, should anyone be interested, is rbybee@[removed].  (It's a
public address.)  Whether tapes or CDs are available commercially or
officially or not, I do not know, but it's a great start.

Ed Walker also has an official Joy Boys web-site, with a history of his work
on radio, and I believe you can listen to his radio program on Sunday
evenings from a link on that site.

Martin

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:10:08 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-14 births/deaths

August 14th births

08-14-1863 - Ernest Lawrence Thayer - Lawrence, MA - d. 8-21-1940
author: "Favorite Story"
08-14-1867 - John Galsworthy - Kingston Hill, Surrey, England - d.
1-31-1933
author: "Columbia Workshop"; "Great Plays"; "Theatre Guil On the Air"
08-14-1870 - Harry Lauder - Edinburgh, Scotland - d. 2-26-1950
singer: "Sir Harry Lauder"; "The Fourth Christmas"
08-14-1879 - Edna Fisher - NB - d. 4-23-1978
actor: "The Al Pearce Show"
08-14-1889 - Robert Woolsey - Oakland, CA - d. 10-31-1938
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
08-14-1893 - Carl Benton Reid - Lansing, MI - d. 3-16-1973
actor: Roger Allen "Big Sister"
08-14-1897 - Lal Chand Mehra - Amritsar, India - d. 10-21-1980
actor: "I Love A Mystery"; "I Love Adventure"
08-14-1903 - Millard Mitchell - Havana, Cuba - d. 10-13-1953
actor: Casey "Mighty Casey"
08-14-1909 - Ed Herlihy - Dorchester, MA - d. 1-30-1999
announcer: "Advs. of the Thin Man"; "Just Plain Bill"; "Vic and Sade"
08-14-1909 - Frank Papp - d. 5-27-1996
director: "The Bartons"; "Words at War"; "Right to Happiness";
"Eternal Light"
08-14-1911 - Ken Nordine - Chicago, IL - d. 9-15-1993
announcer: "Armstrong of the SBI"; "The Breakfast Club"
08-14-1914 - Alyce King - Payson, UT - d. 8-21-1996
singer: (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"; "Al
Pearce and His Gang"
08-14-1914 - Andrea Leeds - Butte, MT - d. 5-21-1984
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
08-14-1914 - Bill Downs - Kansas City, MO - d. 5-3-1978
newscaster: CBS Moscow 1942
08-14-1917 - Marty Glickman - NYC - d. 1-3-2001
sprorts broadcaster: "Saturday Night Bandwagon"; "Play Ball"; "Box
Score Review"
08-14-1919 - Nehemiah Persoff - Jerusalem, Palestine
actor: "Hollywood Radio Theatre
08-14-1921 - Cobina Wright, Jr. - NYC
actor: "Your Blind Date"
08-14-1926 - Alice Ghostly - Eve, MO
actor: "Theatre Five"

August 14th deaths

01-07-1930 - Douglas Kiker - Griffin, KS - d. 8-14-1991
nbc newsman: "Meet the Press"
01-11-1910 - Gene Baker - Portland, OR - d. 8-14-1981
announcer: "Lum and Abner"; "Queen for a Day"
02-15-1899 - Gale Sondergaard - Litchfield, MN - d. 8-14-1985
actor: "Columbia Presents Corwin"
03-04-1888 - David Frederick Smith - Clarksburg, IN - d. 8-14-1976
early radio broadcaster: Creator of "March of Time"
03-18-1911 - Deane Kincaide - Houston, TX - d. 8-14-1992
saxophonist: "The Bob Crosby Show"
06-22-1909 - Milton Kaye - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-14-2006
pianist/arranger: "Roger Kilgore, Public Defender"; "Under Arrest"
06-25-1895 - Donald Gallagher - Quincy, IL - d. 8-14-1961
actor: P. Wallace Carver "Houseboat Hannah"; Humble Dickinson "Joan
and Kermit"
07-07-1917 - Doris Dudley - NYC - d. 8-14-1985
actor: Peggy Meek "Meet Mr. Meek"
07-23-1918 - Pee Wee Reese - Ekron, KY - d. 8-14-1999
baseball great: "Play Ball"; "Box Score Review"; "Feature Project:
This Game of Baseball"
07-27-1914 - Ira Avery - Albany, NY - d. 8-14-1984
director: "We Came This Way"; "Eternal Light"
08-24-1900 - Ralph Kirbery - Patterson, NJ - d. 8-14-1993
singer: (The Dream Singer) "Mohawk Treasure Chest"; "Musical Moments
Revue"
09-13-1894 - J. B. Priestley - Bradford, Yorkshire, England - d.
8-14-1984
dramatist: "London After Dark"; "Studio One"; "NBC University Theatre"
09-16-1903 - Joe Venuti - Lecco, Italy - d. 8-14-1978
jazz violinist: "Friendly Five Footnotes";"Paul Whiteman Show";
"Jubilee"
09-26-1914 - Dora McCann - d. 8-14-1975
host: "McCann Pure Food Hour"
11-29-1915 - J. G. Weightman - Callerton, Englans - d. 8-14-2004
translator and announcer in French for the BBC
12-01-1920 - Mary Wells - Omaha, NE - d. 8-14-2000
actor: "John Steele, Adventurer"
12-21-1913 - Louise King - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 8-14-1997
singer (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"; "Al
Pearce and His Gang"
12-27-1906 - Oscar Levant - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 8-14-1972
panelist, pianist: "Information, Please"; "Kraft Music Hall"
xx-xx-1920 - Edwin Cooper - d. 8-14-1961
announcer, actor: "The Milt Herth Trio"; "RFD America"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:12:49 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Phil Rizzuto

Philip Francis Rizzuto, whose aphorism "Holy Cow!" was added to the American
vernacular during his durable reign as a sportscaster, died Tuesday.  He was
born September 25, 1917 at Brooklyn.  From 1952 into the 1960s his popular
"Phil Rizzuto's Sports Caravan" was a staple on the aural ether as radio
began to fade.

Phil "Scooter" Rizzuto overcame his diminutive size (5'6", 150 lbs.) to
anchor a New York Yankees dynasty, helping his team win 10 pennants and 8
World Series during his 13 seasons as a durable and deft shortstop (1941-42,
1946-56, with time out for duty with Uncle Sam).  Rizzuto was an All-Star 5
times, named the American League's Most Valuable Player in 1950 and elected
to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1994.

Retiring from playing, he became a Yankees play-by-play broadcaster for four
decades, principally on local New York television.  He debuted on the
airwaves, however, on radio where his "Sports Caravan," introduced in the
early 1950s by NBC and later carried by CBS, became a popular feature with
true believers.  Rizzuto revealed, "I like radio better than television
because if you make a mistake on radio, they don't know.  You can make up
anything on the radio."

Another sportscasting legend, Harry Carey, claimed it was he who instituted
"Holy Cow!" as an expression of glee long before it was put into play by
Rizzuto with his beloved Yankees.  If so, it never kept Rizzuto from
applying it.

The very first mystery guest for which the celebrity panel was blindfolded
on the premier of CBS-TV's "What's My Line?" was Rizzuto, then on the
Yankees' active roster (February 2, 1950).  In the 1954-55 TV season he was
a panelist on the Dumont primetime quiz "Down You Go" presided over by
Bergen Evans.

David Letterman once told his audience:  "I heard the doctors revived a man
after being dead for four-and-a-half minutes.  When they asked what it was
like being dead, he said it was like listening to Phil Rizzuto during a rain
delay."

-- Adapted from "Radio Speakers:  Narrators, News Junkies, Sports Jockeys,
Tattletales, Tipsters, Toastmasters and Coffee Klatch Couples Who Verbalized
the Jargon of the Aural Ether from the 1920s to the 1980s -- A Biographical
Dictionary" (2007) by Jim Cox ([removed], 800-253-2187)

Jim Cox

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