Subject: [removed] Digest V2001 #335
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 10/17/2001 8:49 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2001 : Issue 335
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  A&A recordings                        [ "Joe Salerno" <sergei01@[removed] ]
  CD labels                             [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
  Re: Mary Small                        [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Attend the FOTR!                      [ "Kierniesky, Nicholas C." <kiernies ]
  Disabled people in [removed]   [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Audition questions                    [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
  Marion Harris Correction              [ GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@ ]
  Re: Incorrect dates on the 'net       [ Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed]; ]
  Play Ball!                            [ Ron & Jeanne Crowley <rccjmc@earthl ]
  Re: Jan Miner                         [ "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed] ]
  The Down Homers                       [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
  Jan Miner                             [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
  Sinatra did a detective show on radi  [ "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed]; ]

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:45:03 -0400
From: "Joe Salerno" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A&A recordings

This is a question that will probably require Elizabeth to answer.

The first A&A broadcasts, were they done live or via record? It is my
understanding that they were live.

If this is so, what was the first ep to be recorded on disk for
distribution?

In other words, what is the earliest ep that could possibly survive?

Joe Salerno

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:45:35 -0400
From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CD labels

A warning--CDs with paper labels often get stuck in my car CD player.  I
wouldn't put a CD with a homemade label in a player that has a thin
slide-in-the-CD slot.  (You shouldn't have any trouble with a Walkman,
with a lid that opens wide, or a home stereo unit that has a sliding
tray).

---Dan

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:19:13 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Mary Small

George Wagner wrote:

Everything I've ever read and/or heard orally
about "The Little Girl with the Great Big Voice" has
stated that this was Broadway, vaudeville, recording
and pioneer radio superstar  MARION HARRIS (Mary Anne
Harrison, 1896-1944). Miss Harris was a regular guest
of the Rudy Vallee Show (Fleischmann Hour) circa
1931-1932, before emigrating to England and beginning
her BBC career.

Marion Harris and Mary Small were two different people, and Small indeed
used the "Little Girl With the Great Big Voice" billing extensively in
the mid-1930s. Unlike the full-grown Harris, Small was in fact a little
girl -- a child performer with an extraordinarily grown-up singing voice.
She sang in a deep alto that sometimes dipped into the upper baritone
range, and specialized in both slow torch songs and hotcha rhythm numbers.

Mary Small's best-known radio slot was as "Little Miss Bab-O," for the B.
T. Babbitt Company during 1934-35, when she was twelve years old -- she
was supposedly the singing embodiment of the little girl pictured on the
Bab-O cleanser label, and was pictured as such in magazine and billboard
ads promoting the program. Small was heard well into the 1940s in various
fifteen-minute time slots, usually sustaining, and also made a few
musical film shorts, including an installment in the Fleischer brothers'
"Screen Songs" sing-along song cartoon series. Concurrent with her radio
career she was a popular live attraction in stage shows presented in New
York's RKO theatres.

In the early 1940s, Small married Vic Mizzy, a smalltime vaudeville
performer and songwriter who specialized in novelty songs, and they moved
to Hollywood in the 1950s, where Small retired from performing and Mizzy
went on to write two unforgettable TV theme songs ("The Addams Family"
and "Green Acres".) I believe they are still married, and still living in
California -- it might be possible to track them down thru ASCAP.

Elizabeth

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:59:02 -0400
From: "Kierniesky, Nicholas C." <kiernies@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Attend the FOTR!

Don't let the NY attack discourage you from attending this fine meeting.

Every year, to get to the FOTR, I nervously drive by Grovers Mills, [removed]
If I can make it, so can you!

-Nik Kierniesky
Gettysbug, PA

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:00:00 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Disabled people in [removed]

Thanks, Jim and Mike, for your notes about people in entertainment with
disabilities.  You may not be aware of this but Eddie Timanus, who won many
dollars on Jeopardy, was a sportscaster with his father on local radio
station, KKAA, Aberdeen, SD.  He did what he called "color" for the sports
events his father narrated.  I think he has also done this for some radio
station in the Washington, DC area.  Eddie was born totally blind and was a
student at the SD School for the Blind & Visually Impaired.

Ted Kneebone
1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401 / 605-226-3344
OTR:  [removed]

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:00:39 -0400
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Audition questions

Finally I have some questions for the pros here!

I was listening to the audition for THE MARTIN AND LEWIS SHOW from (I think)
December 1948; the one with Lucille Ball.  I don't know whether this aired
or not - my guess is "no" since Dean's song and many of the jokes were
repeated in Show #2 (w/William Bendix).  Anyways, some questions:

- Were stars, supporting actors and/or "name" guests like Lucille Ball paid
any less for auditions than for regular broadcasts?  Did AFRA have a sliding
scale for auditions that aired vs. those that did not?

- Did audition recordings ever air?  Is there an estimate as to how often
they did/didn't?  Is there a way to find out which ones did/didn't?

I guess that'll do for now ;-)!

Michael J. Hayde

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:01:22 -0400
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Marion Harris Correction

     Sorry, but yesterday I seem to have had my
stupidity level set on high.
     Marion Harris' real name was Mary ELLEN Harrison,
not Mary ANNE, as I wrote in my previous post.
     You'd think that after eight years' research I'd
at least get THAT one right, but [removed]

     George Wagner
     GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:05:02 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Incorrect dates on the 'net

Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:26:51 -0400
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
Subject:  Incorrect dates on the 'net

This reminds me that SEVERAL "On this [removed]" sites on the web list the
radio debut of "Dragnet" as July 7, 1949.  I'm probably preaching to the
choir here, but this is incorrect.  I'm partial to the date of July 7th
myself, as it was my wedding day, but "Dragnet" began on June 3, 1949.
I'm supposing that Mr. Mackey's source was equally misinformed, and I
wonder just how and why these things happen.

  I find the various "today in history" items here and there and I
always preface it by citing where it was from, not I say, on this date
but "so-and-so says".  Sort of a CYA.  :)
  I should check my Bible (Dunning) in future.  :)
  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:12:56 -0400
From: Ron & Jeanne Crowley <rccjmc@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Play Ball!

For you Boston Red Sox fans, back in the mid-fifties the two sportscasters
covering the game (Bosox vs. ?) on radio were Bob Delaney and Curt Gowdy
with their "Hi, neighbor, have a 'Gansett!" commercials.  As one inning came
to an end, Bob D. turned the mike over to Curt with the unintentional
Spooner-ism: "And now, the next inning will be covered by Gurt Cowdy!"  Not
to be outdone, Curt casually replied:  "Thank you, Dob Belaney!"  I still
get a chuckle just thinking about it!  Regards, RonC

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:03:43 -0400
From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Jan Miner

Thanks to Jim Cox for the post about Jan Miner. It brings up the question of
how to send birthday greetings to her.

Ms. Miner worked for WTIC, Hartford in 1944. She hosted "A Woman's Point of
View", a pre-cursor to the long-running Jean Colbert show, which began about
1946.

According to an interview, on Thursday, July 6, 1944 Ms. Miner went to the
Ringling Brothers-Barnum and Bailey circus with a group of children and
adults the station sent to the afternoon matinee. Her account said that the
temperature and humidity were so stifling that she told the group she had to
prepare her show. She crossed the street just as the big top was consumed
with flames - the terrible Hartford Circus Fire. According to her
recollection, she turned away and prayed.

Ms. Miner, according to the 1985 history of WTIC radio, was a member of the
Guy Hedlund repertory company. The WTIC Playhouse featured 'TIC alums Louis
Nye, Ed Begley Sr., Getrude Warner and Paul Lucas, who was chief announcer
for the station in the 30's.

Happy birthday, Ms. Miner.

  Macandrew

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:04:31 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Down Homers

Somebody on OTR or 78-L asked about "The Down Homers," of the 1940s, who
broadcast out of WTIC, Hartford CT. Here's a reply I received from a longtime
CT resident:

I got a message from Bill Knowlton asking me if I knew anything about the
Down Homers.  Quizzed my husband Dave and he said;
Guy Campbell was the lead singer and maybe the [removed]
Shorty Cook played steel (pre-pedal)
Slim Coxx played fiddle and sang lead, harmony.

There was another band member but the name escapes him.  Maybe Tex Pavel

They had a 15 min. radio show over WTIC (1080) [removed], 50Kw.,
Hartford, Ct.

Their theme song was called "Out Where The West Wind Blows"
Hope this info helps.

Hazel [removed], Riverton CT



Bill Knowlton, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE," WCNY-FM: Syracuse, Utica, Watertown NY
(since Jan. 1973). Sundays, 9 pm est: [removed]

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:05:21 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jan Miner

Jim Cox mentions about Jan Miner "But for those of us who recall her
contributions to radio, ..."

She also was in a number of the NBC Dimension X/X Minus One episodes as
well as a large number of Radio City Playhouse.

Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:52:00 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

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and widow of actor Howard Culver

(For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:35:07 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sinatra did a detective show on radio??

To Jim Stokes:
What was the name of Sinatra's detective show? Do you know if any episodes
are still around, and are they any good? I would love to listen to some of
those.

Doug Leary

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