Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #300
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 10/1/2005 7:34 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 300
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Need help with "Shadow" ad            [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Dear Irene                            [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
  TED -- DID SOMEBODY TAPE YOUR BRISS?  [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  STUFF                                 [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
  re: OT: Kerouac/Dylan                 [ Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@yahoo. ]
  Jack Benny in Baghdad                 [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  More CBS Radio Affiliate News         [ "Don Spuhler" <donspuhler@earthlink ]
  AM audio frequency response           [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  "Operation: A Bit of Home"            [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  10-1 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Digital vs Anaolog tuning         [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
  CBS radio news                        [ chris chandler <chrischandler84@yah ]
  Re: Question                          [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
  Suspense--Backseat Driver             [ "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed]; ]
  OFF-TOPIC: Radio's future, not its p  [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  Dylan and Hibbing                     [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  Jazzbeaux                             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:08:26 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Need help with "Shadow" ad
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Last Night at Billy Rose:

I was doing research for a good buddy o' mine & needed to have a particular
article photocopied. Unfortunately, the clipping in question was "[removed],"
[removed], "not dated/not sourced." From my numerous dealings with [removed]
newspaper clippings, one way to "narrow it down" is to look on the clipping's
reverse to see  if some clues can be provided. [removed], if the reverse has an ad
for, say, the film "Times Square Lady" featuring Helen Twelvetrees and Pinky
Tomlin,  you can find out the  film's year, & hence the clipping's,  by
consulting Maltin, Halliwell, or IMdB.

Anyway, something I copied last night had on its reverse a really swell line
drawing picture ad for "The Shadow" radio show & I'd really would like to save
this serendipitously found treasure with my Shadow historian/archivist buddy
down there in Sanctum Antonio, Texas [shh! don't tell [removed]'s a surprise],
but before  I do that, I need some help in "narrowing it down."  Therefore,
I'll provide some clues & hopefully aome of you ether-ites can at least
provide a city/radio market for the clipping in question.

Said ad reads:
What you want to know about fuel. Helpful Heating Hints--a regular feature of
THE SHADOW. Every Suday [removed]  P. M.  STATION WAAB.
Brought to you by your 'blue coal' Dealer.

Abutting it is the tail end of a text story which refers to that day's 5:45
airing of  the radio series "Dear John" over station WTAG. Nearby are ads for
"Gauthier's 222 Main St., Dial 6-5145";  Philco and Zenith radio consoles on
sale at "Epstein's, 138 Main St."; and "SERVICE On All Makes of RADIOS and
[removed] Speedometer Service, 146 Main, 5-4491"

Worcester sounds like Massachusetts. So if stations WAAB and WTAG or any of
these businesses ring any bells, please let me know off-list.

Sleuthing it off in the ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:09:23 -0400
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dear Irene

Dear Irene, you wrote:

I had friends connected to the folk music community,  and spent a lot of
time in the Village when all that stuff was happening, listening to Dylan
and others.

Were you [removed]  Are they allowed here?

I was laughing over your post as just I thought about something that
happened yesterday.  I was walking across my campus with a couple of my
students.  One of them said that he had been my wife's student a couple of
years ago (my wife and I teach at the same university).  I asked him if he
enjoyed her class and he said that she was is good looking (she was secretly
thrilled to hear that).  He said that my wife had shown the class our
wedding photo and that I used to [removed](sorry it is just too hurtful to
finish that sentence.)

Regarding artists and musicians.  I think it always pays to focus on there
art and not them as a person - I get less disapointed that way.  There is an
episode of Inspectoir Morse where Lewis says, "my dad loved football but he
hated footballers."

Love as always, David Rogers

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:09:37 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  TED -- DID SOMEBODY TAPE YOUR BRISS?

All I remember, is, crying alot!

[removed]
           Sandy
[removed]
        [removed]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:09:49 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  STUFF

'Ba, ba, ba, boo. I will, ba ba ba boo'

Crosby said, "A singer like Sinatra comes along once in a lifetime -- why
did it have to be mine!"

'[removed], Tracer of Lost Persons'

Or, Boob & Roy's, Mr. Trace, keener than most persons.

'Julie London'

Julie, wife of Jack Webb, sang beautifully, but, everybody bought those
LP's for the 'revealing' cover pictures!

[removed]
           Sandy
[removed]
        [removed]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:10:09 -0400
From: Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: OT: Kerouac/Dylan
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This is about as off-topic as we can get, but since Jack Kerouac died in
1968, hasn't it been more than a "few" years ago since he visited Lowell?

The man was self destructive to say the least, but many people were who did
not seek proper treatment for their emotional problems.  Like many, Kerouac
self medicated himself with alcohol and drugs, and it eventually killed him.
Odd that it was that same use of drugs and alcohol that made him a pioneer
and an unwilling leader for a movement.

Put me in the list of those who find his work at times magical, but often
flawed.  I still maintain that On the Road should be required reading for
every high school student.

Rodney Bowcock

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:16:59 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny in Baghdad

Wonderful to hear that you are sending OTR to Baghdad!

PLEASE send some Jubilee's for the black troops!

And while you're at it send some Command Performances.

I just hope the troops don't get depressed when they hear how strongly our
country USED to support
the armed forces!

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:17:14 -0400
From: "Don Spuhler" <donspuhler@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  More CBS Radio Affiliate News
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Just found out that after 73 years, one of CBS radios oldest affiliates, KSL,
Salt Lake City has dropped CBS and now is affiliated with ABC. I happened to
be listening recently and heard ABC News on the hour.   More info. on their
website.
[removed]
Don Spuhler
Laptop Computer

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:18:47 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  AM audio frequency response

Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:30:49 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];

"Why a four-year-old child could understand this!  Run out and find me a
four-year-old child.
I can't make heads or tails of it!"
-- Groucho Marx as Rufus T. Firefly

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:19:21 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Operation: A Bit of Home"

I read  Ken Meyer's message about his wife
communications to him during her tenure in military
service in Iraq (for which I wish to acknowledge Mrs.
Meyers wholeheartedly and thank her for her dedicated
service to the United States in its efforts.)

Ken mentions that the military does not provide for
their soldiers in the field basic necessities, [removed]
tooth paste , dental floss, feminine products etc.

Now I thought back over my twenty years of military
service to the two plus [removed] years time prior
to my commissioning (officers have to provide for
themselves all of their living expenses food and the
like with an exception of a housing allowance for
married officers), when as an enlisted man  I could
not ever remember being issued other than
my uniforms any sort of kit of toiletries, or personal
hygiene items back then either.   Those personal items
were always one's own responsibility to provide for
themselves from a source such as the Base Exchange or
as then known,  PX.  There one could buy their
personal favorites re soap, (Lifebouy or Irish
Spring), tooth paste (Pepsodent or Colgate) and the
like.  A shame would be that over in the combat areas
there aren't any such items being stocked in whatever
serves as such stores desginated for the troops.  The
sources mentioned  by  Ken Meyer's web page
"Operation: A Bit of Home" providing such items for
sure can solve the problems of said hygiene as well as
providing entertainment to while away the troop's  R
and R hours.  For that Mr. Meyers is to be commended
as well.  Keep up the good work.

Conrad Binyon

---
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:19:28 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-1 births/deaths

October 1st births

10-01-1889 - Ralph W. Sockman - Mount Vernon, OH - d. 8-29-1970
preacher: "National Radio Pulpit"
10-01-1890 - Stanley Holloway - London, England - d. 1-30-1982
actor, singer: "Music As You Like It"
10-01-1893 - Faith Baldwin - d. 3-18-1978
novelist: Guest on "The Second Mrs. Burton"
10-01-1898 - Curtiss Arnall - Cheyenne, WY - d. 9-22-1964
actor: Buck Rogers, "Buck Rogers"
10-01-1899 - Rupert LaBelle - d. 8-xx-1972
actor: Rufus Kane "Story of Joan and Kermit"
10-01-1903 - George Coulouris - Manchester, England - d. 4-25-1989
actor: Hugh Drummond "Bulldog Drummond"; Frank Harrison "As the Twig Is Bent"
10-01-1904 - Vladimir Horowitz - Kiev, Ukraine, Russia - d. 11-5-1989
piano virtuoso: "GuestStar"; "Pictures At An Exhibition"
10-01-1905 - Wallace Magill - d. 8-xx-1973
producer, director: "The Telephone Hour"
10-01-1909 - Everett Sloane - New York City, NY - d. 8-6-1965
actor: Frank Kennelly, "21st Precinct"; Alfred Drake "This Is Nora Drake"
10-01-1910 - Bonnie Parker - Rowena, TX - d. 5-23-1934
outlaw, murderess: "Gang Busters"
10-01-1914 - Donald Wollheim - New York, NY - d. 11-2-1990
science fiction writer: "Dimension X"
10-01-1921 - James Whitmore - White Plains, NY
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-01-1926 - George Peppard - Detroit, MI - d. 5-8-1994
actor: "MGM Air View"
10-01-1927 - Tom Bosley - Chicago, IL
host: "Sears Adventure Theatre"
10-01-1935 - Julie Andrews - Walton-on-Thames, Surrey, England
singer: "Music As You Like It"; "Heartbeat of Broadway"

October 1st deaths

01-03-1897 - Dorothy Arzner - San Francisco, CA - d. 10-1-1979
film director: "You Were Meant to be a Star"
02-03-1890 - Larry MacPhail - Cass City, MI - d. 10-1-1975
baseball executive: "Information, Please"; "Bill Stern Colgate Sports Newsreel"
02-12-1898 - Roy Harris - Lincoln County, Oklahoma Territory - d. 10-1-1979
composer: "New York Philharmonic"; "Comtemporary Composers Concerts"
02-27-1894 - Frank Munn - The Bronx, NY - d. 10-1-1953
singer (The Golden Voice of Radio) Paul Oliver "Palmolive Hour"
04-01-1907 - Stanley Joseloff - d. 10-1-1989
writer: "The Eddie Cantor Show"
04-27-1898 - Ludwig Behelmans - Meran, Austria-Hungary - d. 10-1-1962
author, panelist: "Author, Author"
05-17-1878 - Conway Tearzle - New York NY - d. 10-1-1938
narrator: "Streamlined Shakespeare"
06-21-1900 - Jack Arthur - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-1-1980
singer, emcee: "Echoes of New York"; "Family Time"; "Jack Arthur Show"
06-26-1900 - Richard Crooks - Trenton, NJ - d. 10-1-1972
singer: "Voice of Firestone"
07-26-1911 - Buddy Clark - Dorchester, MA - d. 10-1-1949
singer: "Your Hit Parade"; "New Carnation Contented Hour"
09-16-1921 - Korla Pandit (Juan Rolando) - New Delhi, India - d. 10-1-1998
organ: "Chandu the Magician"
09-26-1901 - Donald Cook - Portland, OR - d. 10-1-1961
actor: John Morrison "Mother O' Mine"; "Robert Allison "My Son Jeep"
10-25-1918 - Chubby Jackson - New York City, NY - d. 10-1-2003
bassist: (Woody Herman Band) "The Woody Herman Show"
12-01-1911 - Walter Alston - Venice, OH - d. 10-1-1984
baseball manager: "Tops In Sports"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:19:43 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Digital vs Anaolog tuning

I realize I am probably in the minority, but, I still like to listen to AM
radio once in a while, particularly at night. I have kept an old Montgomery
Ward  Airline analog tuned clock radio, with cassette player, for just those
times. It has one of the most sensitive AM bands I have ever run across. My
sleek Sony AM/FM, CD player, clock radio, is of course digitally tuned, and
is a
minor league player compared to my old analog set. I have tried them both  at
the same time, and I can hear stations on my analog set, that my digital set
doesn't even know exists. By tuning either up frequency, or down frequency
with  the analog set, I can bring in stations that are totally non-existent
on
my digital set. I have often wondered why the rush to  digital? Newer isn't
necessarily better, IMHO.

Chuck

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:22:35 -0400
From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CBS radio news

Michael P. [removed]

The Columbia Network finally has re-established a
small presence in Louisville, KY. Harvey Naegler, VP
of CBS Radio, finally covinced a  longtime
former CBS Affil to come home. WHAS 50,000 watt has
rejoined Columbia

Coincidentally, this is the station where I work as a
reporter and news anchor, and I can tell you Michael's
warm and sweet tale of the prodigal affiliate finally
"coming home" bears no resemblance to anything that
actually happened. :)

It's very complicated, but short version--and this
happened all over the country:  after literally years
of haggling over Paul Harvey and the associated
commerial inventory, with ABC refusing to budge on its
requiremets, Clear Channel (the company) dumped ABC in
favor of Fox Radio.  This was by any account an
excellent business deal, but for news purposes it was
disastrous with a capitol 'D'.  Fox Radio was and is
probably the worst mess of nothing you'll ever hear
masquerading as a national news organiation.

((And understand it has *nothing* to do with
politics--the radio division has little or nothing to
do with Fox TV, either in theory or in practice--but
everything to do with a cut-rate, low-rent service,
and an often head-shakingly clueless bunch of folks up
in NY who have no idea what bigger-market local radio
stations want or need for their news.))

Into this void stepped nice Harvey of CBS, who
cleverly travelled around the country, signing up
disgruntled Clear Channel stations, many of whom are
now using CBS as a supplemental service.  This is the
case with WHAS.  The ironic thing, and the net effect
of Fox's poor performance, is that you end up hearing
ALOT more of CBS than of Fox!

Punch line:  faced with the very real prospect of
having Paul Harvey simply vanish into the ether
forever on August 1st, ABC finally agreed to allow
stations to keep his programs, without carrying the
confiscatory amount of commercial inventory previously
required.  Had they done this in 1994, or 2004, or six
months ago, *none* of the above would had happened.
Now, ABC is laying off people, including air staff,
and it's not hard to imagine that it's because of the
Fox deal.

Two quick things:  this is a FASCINATING broadcasting
and business story, all about politics, clueless
arrogance among New York executives, the changing face
of the radio biz, Roger Ailes trying to increase his
reach even into your car and walkman, etc etc.  But of
course our wunnerful national media press has no
clue--if it doesn't involve praising Anderson Cooper,
or originate with Howard Kurtz, and so on, they're not
interested.

Finally, Michael says he "hopes" WHAS will soon pick
up the CBS hourlies overnight.  This can't happen--it
would be Fox, contractually, were there to be some
change.  But *any* change like that would involve
several of my colleagues losing their jobs.  I'm sure
Michael doesn't "hope" for that.

chris

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:07:23 -0400
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Question

Al Henderson <al_henders0n@[removed]; writes:

My question is: what is being done now with the Little
Orphan Annie disks? Since a large amount of money is
spent on transcription disks, they must be a hot
commodity. As you suggested for a group, why not turn
around and sell them when you're through with them for
at least the same price? That would recoup 100% of
your initial financial investment saving you literally
thousands of dollars!!

The disks were re-sold to another collector shortly after I bought them, Al,
for the same price that I paid for them. The resulting funds were used to
buy more disks, which were once again sold [removed] so on and so on. Thus,
I've usually made back my investments -- unless you include the considerable
amount of time that it takes to list and sell individual disks to others via
eBay and in other similar ways. Breaking even - that is, getting back what I
actually spent on a disk - is usually the best I can hope for.

The thing is that unless a person pays very, VERY little for a
transcription, there is no guarantee that they will recoup their
investment -- especially after the show(s) it contains hit the MP3
collectors. (It's hard to describe a disk as "rare" after thousands of
people were able to get the show(s) it contains for free.) That's why I
suggest that a group, pooling their funds to buy a batch of disks, would
have very little risk per participant; even if they weren't able to resell
the disks for exactly what they paid for them, the small individual
financial loss vs. the tremendous gain of being able to hear and enjoy "new"
OTR shows would hardly be worth worrying about.

Harlan Zinck

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:07:44 -0400
From: "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Suspense--Backseat Driver
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One of my all time favorite Suspense episodes is Backseat Driver.  I'm not
familiar at all with the Los Angeles area.  I was wondering if the area, back
in the 40's and 50's was as sparcely populated as the episode seems to imply.
It has the feel of taking place in smalltown America instead of near a large
Metropolitan center like LA.  Do some of the landmarks mentioned in the
episode still exist?  And I guess another question I need to ask is, could the
episode possibly be updated using today's topography of the area and not loose
any of its effectiveness?

Bob

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 17:27:34 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OFF-TOPIC: Radio's future, not its past

Folks;

   Apologies for the off-topic post, but for those interested in a view into
radio's future, be sure to check out the blog at [removed] -
over the next few days I'll be detailing in words and pictures my visit to
the XM Studios in Washington, [removed] for the first-anniversary party for The
Bob Edwards Show.

   That place [removed]'s no other [removed]

          Charlie

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 20:06:00 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dylan and Hibbing

It's obvious that Dylan couldn't wait to shake the dust of Hibbing from his
shoes as soon as he got out.  On the PBS documentary there was a clip from a
radio interview with Dylan from very early in his career.  When asked where
he is from Dylan (truthfully) says he was born in Duluth but then says he
grew up in Gallup, New Mexico!

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:11:46 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jazzbeaux

Ron Sayles noted the 9/30/97 passing of:

Al "Jazzbo" Collins

Just a correction on the name [removed] was Al "Jazzbeaux"  Collins.  My
husband and I listened to him every week during the final  years of his life,
as he broadcast his regular Saturday evening show on KCSM  Jazz [removed] here in
the San Francisco Bay Area.  We also attended the  memorial concert that was
held at the College of San Mateo (CSM) that featured  all Count Basie music,
Jazzbeaux's favorite composer.

Additionally before his passing, the station offered a premium during a
pledge drive of Jazzbeaux-related recordings.  This included everything  from
his
theme song to his spoken work with Steve Allen, and a strange and
unforgettable ditty called "Jazzbeaux's Purple Power Squadron (On  Patrol)".

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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