Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #15
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 1/15/2005 8:47 AM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 15
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: 'Dumb' songs                      [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
  Orson Welles & Canada Lee: 2 new boo  [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
  Zeke Benny & Frankie Remley           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Re: Bea Benadaret's girls             [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
  OTR Listening Habits                  [ "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@hotma ]
  Re: Bea Benaderet                     [ vigor16@[removed] ]
  Glenn Miller on AEFP,AFN,and BBC-GFP  [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  OTR listening habits                  [ Chargous@[removed] ]
  OTR listening habits                  [ "From Mike" <zines50@[removed]; ]
  Necrology 2004                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:29:24 -0500
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  'Dumb' songs

     Gary D. recently posted ("Dumb songs"):

I know several of us have gotten a chuckle or two
out of the "Mairzy Doats"
thread and [...] "The Hut Sut Song!"
Personally I think both
tunes are more dumb than funny!  ....
 [An old Spike Jones album Gary mentions] might
bring  a smile to one or two of you who feels thatMD
or the HSS songs were "cute?"

     I don't know Gary's age but as a child I heard
"Three Little Fishies", "The Hut Sut Song", and
"Mairzy Doats" (and other novelty songs) on the radio
when they first came out and I and reacted to them as
a kid -- or at least as the kind of kid I was.  My
personal reaction then was that I liked them, but not
necessarily for their lyrics.  (And whether their
lyrics are now, sixty years later, judged to be "dumb"
or "cute" is not particulary meaningful to me).

     As a kid I liked their melodies and rhythm.  And
now they have nostalgia quality for me. That's what
counts for me.

  -- Phil C.

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:05:18 -0500
From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Orson Welles & Canada Lee: 2 new books

In August, Faber and Faber published "Becoming Something," a biography of
the late mulitcareered Canada Lee who did some very interesting radio work
before his untimely death at age 45 in 1952. Among other things, the book
discusses in great detail the effects of the blacklist on Lee, a matter
which was the subject of a lengthy thread on this Digest several years ago.

Also, in just a few weeks a new book by Paul Heyer, a Canadian academic,
will be coming out:  "Medium And The Magician: Orson Welles, The Radio
Years, 1934-1952 (Critical Media Studies)", Rowman & Littlefield Publishers.
I expect to be getting a preview copy and will do a brief review for the
Digest if I get a chance. I anticipate that Paul's will be a serious and
important addendum to the growing list of books that have been giving radio
studies its proper attention.

Howard Blue

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:06:51 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Zeke Benny & Frankie Remley
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There's a famous early TV episode of "The Jack Benny Program" in which Jack
plays "Zeke Benny,"
leader of  a hillbilly band  which includes a prepubescent girl, played by
FOTR crowd-pleaser Beverly
Washburn, whom Zeke introduces as his "wife" (ah! hillbilly humour!), and
Frankie Remley. When
Jack/Zeke introduces him  & asks to say something for the audience, "Remley"
simply shouts the word
"Razzmatazz!"

So, my question is: was this the "real" Frankie Remley, or was it Elliott
Lewis in character as the "Frankie
Remley" from "The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"?

Students?

Derek Tague

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:32:57 -0500
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Bea Benadaret's girls

Jim Cox wrote in #14:
Yep, the same Hooterville of Green Acres. Only this
series was called Petticoat Junction  She was the
mom of Betty Jo, Bobbie Jo and Billie Jo, you
recall.

Ahh, Jim, you bring back such fond memories. I was
just entering adolescence in the mid to late 60's. I
had the biggest crush on Bobby Jo! But now I'd have to
vote for Betty Jo -- I love red hair!  I wonder how
they look now, almost 40 years later? Are any of them
still acting? I can't remember ever seeing any of them
after Petticoat Junction. Man! hard to believe its
almost 40 years! I guess now I'm feeling what those of
you in the OTR generation must have felt as time
marched on.

Oh well, I digress on the [removed] Charlie forgive
me!

DWPhaneuf

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:33:15 -0500
From: "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Listening Habits

Wow!  What a question.  How do I listen to OTR?  well, considering I live in
Canada and summers are very precious to us (if you ever suffered through 4
1/2 months of winter, you would understand), I love to listen to OTR on the
deck on a beautiful spring, summer, fall afternoon.  Four of five hours of
one series in a sitting - in consecutive order (if possible).  It is a real
pleasure to be listening to the sounds and heat of Cairo as Rocky Jordan
solves another mystery while  I am relaxing in the summer heat (and humidty
and mosquitoes <ugh>) of an Ontario summer.  Listening in order gives a real
sense to the series - the continuing character and plot devlopment come
alive when one listens in order and in large chunks at a time.

I try to listen to something daily-  Today, it was three hours of "Let
George Do It'.

A couple of years ago, I listened to the entire Gildersleeve series (in
order) in a period of about two months.  It was absolutely wonderful! I
almost became a member of Gildy's family - I felt that I knew them so well.

As for the second point about fast forwarding - never!  I always listen to
the show as presented. I love the old commercials, station IDs and PA
announcements. I only wish that I had felt the same way when I recorded the
contemporary radio onto tape back when I was a teenager.  I will regret not
recording all of what I was listening to - and editing out comercials,
stations breaks, newscast etc.

Archie

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:34:39 -0500
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Bea Benaderet
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Bea Benaderet
Ah!  One of my favs actresses since I first caught her on George and
Gracy's TV program in syndication, since I am not old enough to remember
OTR first time around.  Great role as Kate Bradley, but who can forget
that super comic role as Pearl Bodine Mother of Jethro and Jethrine from
the Beverly Hillbillies.  FM&M she was the hair dresser, I believe, can't
remember her name right now.  Still makes me laugh when on FM&M when
Molly goes down to retrieve her compac that she left at the store and Bea
says she has to check to see if someone is done in a steam room.  McGee
says, "stick a fork in her and see if she's done".  Next breath a door
opens and a curdling scream comes out your speakers.  What ep is that,
Hmm!  One of my top three saddest days in my life when Bea Benaderet
America's finest comedian left this world for Heaven.  Thanks for
reminding me of a decent part of Hollywood that played such a big part in
my life.  Bea Benaderet and Eve Arden were two good reasons to stay home
from school when early TV ran George and Gracy with Our Miss Brooks in
one hour morning session.      What medium gave us all that talent, ?
Radio.  All those years of microphone crooning paid off for early
television being so popular.  Do we have seasoned veterans of that
caliber these days?  Thanks for the time.  Deric

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:35:13 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Glenn Miller on AEFP,AFN,and BBC-GFP
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Chris Holm asked:

Wow, I knew that Miller sometimes broke out smaller combos from the orchestra,
but I had no idea to what extent he did that.  He really was able to cover a
lot of different styles.

How involved with the management/arrangement/etc of these "sub-bands" was
Miller?  Did he just let them do their thing?  Was he personally involved?
Did other people manage and coordinate all that?

Glenn Miller was very involved in every aspect of the various bands under his
command. He knew how to delegate, but to people who knew what he wanted and
what he expected of them.

In addition to the tremendous schedule of broadcasting, there were all the
personal appearances the band made all over England and Scotland. When he
finally received permission to move the band to France where he could get
close to the front lines, the band(s) undertook an unbelievable schedule of
pre recording their various regularly scheduled programs, so that they would
be able to play for the servicemen in France for six weeks(there were no
broadcasting facilities available to him in just liberated Paris).

It was also during this time that the Major was doing his famed propaganda
broadcasts on "The Wehrmact Hour". These programs done mostly in German were
aimed at German soldiers in an attempt to get them to ultimately give up the
fight. These broadcasts were recorded at the later to become famous EMI
studios on Abbey Road in London. There were seven of these 30 minute programs
broadcast.

During this period of approx. one month in [removed] 1944 the bands recorded
28 3/4 hours of programing to cover the six week period, all the while
continuing to broadcast live all of their regular shows. These shows which I
outlined in my last post included Miller's Moonlight Serenade Broadcasts from
the Queensbury All-Services Club in London and also from Co-Partners Hall in
Bedford England, as well as "The Visiting Hour" broadcasts for all military
hospitals.
Nor did the personal appearances of the band stop during this time of
grueling activity. There were at least one dance and several concerts given
that were not broadcast. Even during the rehearsals servicemen were admitted
as well as warmups for their broadcasts. So it was almost constant
performances.
New Arrangements were made constantly and Glenn personally went through these
and made edits and changes. He made one quick trip to Paris in preparation
and of course we all know about the final trip he made to Paris in advance of
the band in order to make final preparations.
He was a hands-on kind of guy.

George Aust

Radio:  "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull
his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you
understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals
here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat"
Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:35:49 -0500
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR listening habits

Hi,

When I first started, it was on cassette (yuk!), then I upgraded to
reel.  Then when digital came around (thank goodness!), I ditched both and
went to CD.  I started an early age (c. 13) and have been an OTR fan for
about 15 years.  I've listened to thousands of shows and I listen to as
much as I can within reason.  When I started getting older (I'm 27 now), I
increased my listening load.  I make a portable mp3 CD mix each week from
my collection, that I listen to at work, and when I go to bed.  I also
signed up for the Imagination Theater subscription and listen to it that
way.  Lately at bedtime I listen to IT's Sherlock Holmes and Harry Nile.  I
prefer detectives, and I'll listen to anything, old or new, as long as the
story is good.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:25 -0500
From: "From Mike" <zines50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR listening habits

That's an interesting question.

I usually listen to one episode at a time, though I did break that rule once
for the BBC serial JOURNEY INTO SPACE, which was just too engrossing not to.

And I usually let all the credits run, something that I used to do with
movies too.

I remember at the 1975 World Science Fiction Convention in Melbourne we took
over a nearby cinema to show some films that were nominated for the Hugo
Award that year.   The cinema manager said later "That's the first time I've
seen an entire cinema of people sit through the end credits!"

It's also great to see Jim Harmon contributing.  I still have the paperback
of THE GREAT RADIO HEROES that I bought in 1968 at Melbourne's Space Age
Books.

At the time I believed I would never get the chance to hear any of the shows
that were featured in it.   Modern technology proved me wrong, thank
goodness.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:40 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Necrology 2004

10-22-1916 - Sidney Miller - Shenandoah, PA - d. 1-10-2004
actor-director-songwriter: "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Jeff Regan, Private
Investigator"
06-12-1919 - Uta Hagen - Gottingen, Germany - d. 1-14-2004
actress: "Big Show"
07-13-1934 - Philip Crosby - CA - d. 1-17-2004
actor: "Bing Crosby Show"
07-11-1922 - Bernard Punsly - NYC - d. 1-20-2004
actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"
04-12-1919 - Ann Miller - Chireno, TX - d. 1-22-2004
dancer, actress: "Forecast"; "Hollywood Hotel"
11-10-1916 - Billy May - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 1-23-2004
orchestra leader: "Music Depreciation"; "Stan Freberg Show"
05-01-1918 - Jack Paar - Canton, OH - d. 1-27-2004
comedian: "Jack Paar Show"; "Take It or Leave It"
06-17-1923 - Elroy "Crazylegs" Hirsch - Wausau, WI - d. 1-28-2004
pro football hall of fame, host: "Elroy Hirsch Sports Show"; "Touchdown Tips"
10-15-1917 - Jan Miner - Boston, MA - d. 2-15-2004
actress: Ann Williams "Casey, Crime Photographer"; "Lora Lawton "Lora Lawton"
04-21-1919 - Don Cornell - NYC - d. 2-23-2004
singer: "Sammy Kaye's Sunday Serenade"; "Fountain of Fun"
07-01-1908 - Alvino Rey - Oakland, CA - d. 2-24-2004
bandleader: "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"
11-29-1913 - Harry Bartell - New Orleans, LA - d. 2-26-2004
actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; "Adv of Sherlock Holmes";
"Gunsmoke"
06-01-1915 - John Randolph - NYC - d. 2-27-2004
actor: "New World A' Coming"; "A Date with Judy"
07-14-1915 - Jerome Lawrence - Cleveland, OH - d. 2-29-2004
cbs staff writer: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "Doris Day Show"; "Kate Smith Show"
03-16-1916 - Mercedes McCambridge - Joliet, IL - d. 3-2-2004
actress: Sunny Richards "I Love A Mystery"; Martha Ellis Bryant "Defense
Attorney"
11-26-1907 - Francis Dee - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-6-2004
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-17-1922 - Jack Sperling - Trenton, NJ - d. 3-8-2004
drummer: Bands of Bunny Berrigan, Les Brown and others
04-03-1921 - Jan Sterling - NYC - d. 3-26-2004
actress: "Screen Director's Playhouse"; "[removed] Steel Hour"
04-16-1921 - Sir Peter Ustinov - London, England - d. 3-28-2004
actor: "Freedom Forum"; "Mitch Miller Show"
04-19-1913 - Sylvia Froos - NY - d. 3-30-2004
singer: "Sylvia Froos Show"; "Fred Allen Show"
11-20-1908 - Alistair Cooke - Manchester, England - d. 3-30-2004
host: "Transatlantic Quiz"; "Letter to America"; "Stage and Screen"
05-04-1924 - Gene Klaven - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-8-2004
new york morning personalty: "Klaven and Finch"; "Klaven in the Morning"
11-03-1913 - Harry Babbitt - St. Louis, MO - d. 4-9-2004
singer: "Kay Kyser's Surprise Party"; "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical
Knowledge"
04-17-1918 - John Hess - Chicago, IL - d. 4-15-2004
writer: "The Human Adventure"
09-15-1919 - Nelson Giddings - NYC - d. 5-1-2004
writer: "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon"
10-17-1923 - Barney Kessel - Muskogee, OK - d. 5-6-2004
jazz guitarist: "Jubilee"; "One Night Stand"; "Just Jazz"
12-23-1924 - Floyd Kalber - Omaha, NB - d. 5-13-2004
news correspondent: NBC; News Anchor for WMAQ and WLS in Chicago
01-02-1913 - Anna Lee - Ightham, Kent, England - d. 5-14-2004
actress: "Soldiers in Greaspaint"; "Lifebouy Show"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
02-26-1920 - Tony Randall - Tulsa, OK - d. 5-17-2004
actor: Reggie York "I Love A Mystery"
09-09-1927 - Elvin Ray Jones - Pontiac, MI - d. 5-18-2004
jazz drummer: "Newport Jazz Festival"
07-17-1916 - Irene Manning - Cincinnati, OH - d. 5-28-2004
singer: Night Club Singer "Mr. Broadway"; "Wehmacht Hour"; "Railroad Hour"
04-01-1922 - William Manchester - Attleboro, MA - d. 6-1-2004
author, historian: "Meet the Press"; "Biography in Sound"
02-06-1911 - Ronald "Dutch" Reagan - Tampico, IL - d. 6-5-2004
panelist, actor: Hollywood Byline"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-31-1931 - Barbara Whiting - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-9-2004
actress: Judy Graves "Junior Miss"; Mildred "Meet Corliss Archer"
05-15-1923 - Doris Dowling - Detroit, MI - d. 6-18-2004
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-03-1924 - Marlon Brando - Omaha, NE - d. 7-1-2004
actor: "Streetcar Named Desire"; "As Easy as [removed]"
12-24-1920 - John Barron - London, England - d. 7-3-2004
actor: "Dad's Army"; "Brothers In Law"
02-10-1929 - Jerry Goldsmith - Los Angeles, CA - d. 7-21-2004
composer, conductor: "Frontier Gentleman"; "Romance"
10-31-1922 - Illinois Jacquet - Broussard, LA - d. 7-23-2004
jazz saxophonist: "One Night Stand"; "Command Performance"; "Jubilee"
07-24-1911 - Jane Hoffman - Seattle, WA - d. 7-26-2004
actress: "The Author's Studio"
05-26-1915 - Sam Edwards - Macon, GA - d. 7-28-2004
actor: Tracy Baker "One Man's Family"; Franklin Dexter "Meet Corliss Archer"
07-23-1912 - Jackson Beck - NYC - d. 7-28-2004
actor: Philo Vance "Philo Vance"; Gregory Hood "Casebook of Gregory Hood"
03-22-1917 - Virginia Grey - Los Angeles, CA - d. 7-31-2004
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
xx-xx-1920 - Fred Pinkard - d. 8-3-2004
actor: "Destination Freedom"; "Hello. Sucker"
11-17-1916 - Frank Maxwell - The Bronx, NY - d. 8-5-2004
actor: Uthas P. Garvey "Colonel Humphrey Slack"
09-10-1907 - Fay Wray - Alberta, Canada - d. 8-8-2004
actress: Rosemary "Keeping Up with Rosemary"
04-18-1918 - Toy Mottola - Kearney, NJ - d. 8-9-2004
jazz guitarist: "Gordon MacRae Gulf Spray Show"; "Burl Ives Sings"
04-04-1922 - Elmer Bernstein - NYC - d 8-18-2004
composer: "Coming Home"; "Memos to a New Millenium"
03-21-1912 - Suzanne Kaaren - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-27-2004
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-10-1917 - Jean Ruth Hay - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-18-2004
disc jockey: "Reveille with Beverly"
12-30-1931 - Skeeter Davis - Dry Ridge, KY - d. 9-19-2004
country/western singer: "Grand Old Opry
10-27-1918 - Bill Ballance - Peoria, IL - d. 9-23-2004
talk show host: "Feminine Forum"; "Bill Ballance Show"
06-22-1930 - Roy Drusky - Atlanta, GA - d. 9-24-2004
singer: "Grand Old Opry"
xx-xx-1930 - Scott Muni - d. 9-28-2004
disk jockey: "Scott Muni's World of Rock"; "Ticket to Ride"
07-06-1927 - Janet Leigh - Merced, CA - d. 10-3-2004
actress: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players" - Radio Debut
11-22-1921 - Rodney Dangerfield - Babylon, Long Island, NY - d. 10-5-2004
comedian: "Voices of Vista"
06-04-1919 - Robert Merrill - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-23-2004
singer: "An Evening with Romberg"; "Robert Merrill Show"
08-30-1939 - John Peel - Heswall, England - d. 10-25-2004
disc jockey: "The Perfumed Garden"; "Top Gear"
08-26-1907 - Lester Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-27-2004
bandleader: "Lester Lanin and His Orchestra"; "Here's to Veterans"
08-28-1924 - Peggy Ryan - Long Beach, CA - d. 10-30-2004
dancer, actress: "Mail Call"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Proudly We Hail"
11-07-1916 - Joe Bushkin - NYC - d. 11-3-2004
jazz pianist: "Saturday Night Swing Club"; "Eddie Condon's Jazz Concert"
04-13-1919 - Howard Keel - Gillespie, IL - d. 11-7-2004
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-29-1921 - Ed Kemmer - Reading, PA - d. 11-9-2004
actor: Buzz Corey "Space Patrol"
09-24-1919 - Dayton Allen - NYC - d. 11-11-2004
actor: Phineas T. Bluster/Flubadub "Howdy Doody"; "Words at War"
06-23-1917 - Norman Rose - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-12-2004
narrator: "Dimension X"
06-14-1929 - Cy Coleman - NYC - d. 11-18-2004
jazz pianist, composer: "Cy Coleman at the Piano"; "Voices of Vista"
07-23-1915 - Frances Chaney - Odessa, Ukraine - d. 11-23-2004
actress: (One of Hollywood Ten) Marion Kirby "Advs. of Topper"; Burma "Terry
and the Pirates"
08-03-1925 - Billy James Hargis - Texarkana, TX - d. 11-27-2004
preacher: Broadcast his ministry on more than 500 radio stations.
03-04-1934 - John Dunn - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 11-28-2004
announcer, newsreader: "Roundabout"; "Housewive's Choice"; "Breadfast Special"
03-17-1910 - Molly Weir - Glasgow, Scotland - d. 12-1-2004
actress: Tattie McIntosh "It's That Man Again"; Aggie "Life with the Lyons"
12-01-1910 - Dame Alicia Markova - London, England - d. 12-2-2004
ballerina: BBC Interview
12-05-1918 - Ralph Blizard - Kingsport, TN - d. 12-3-2004
fiddler: At age 12 formed "The Southern Ramblers"; Appeared on many Tri-cities
radio stations
xx-xx-1911 - Jerry Scoggins - d. 12-7-2004
singer: (Member of the Cass County Boys) "Gene Autry's Melody Ranch"
03-21-1911 - Henny Backus - Philadelphia, PA - d. 12-9-2004
actress: "Romance"
xx-xx-1922 - Haleloke Kahuaolapua - Hilo, Hawaii - d. 12-16-2004
singer: "Hawaii Calls"; "Arthur Godfrey Time"
02-01-1922 - Renata Tebaldi - Pesaro, Italy - d. 12-19-2004
lyric soprano: "Bell Telephone Hour"
11-11-1930 - Hank Garland - Cowpens, SC - d. 12-27-2004
guitarist: "Jim Reeves Show"; "Country Music Time"; "Country Style [removed]"
10-20-1935 - Jerry Orbach - NYC - d. 12-28-2004
actor: "CBS Mystery Theatre"
xx-xx-1927 - William Boyett - d. 12-29-2004
actor: Freelance in younger years
05-23-1910 - Artie Shaw - NYC - d. 12-30-2004
bandleader: "Melody and Madness"; "Burns and Allen"

--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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