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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 18
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Dragnet, Richard Diamond & DVDs [ Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed]; ]
ATKINS 10 CENTS FOR DECODER [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
1-14 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
THE ORIGIN OF DOOZY [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
POT ROAST [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
this is [removed] [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
Martha Wentworth LP [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
RE: Jerry Haendiges [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
This and That [ "Albert" <alkb2ng@[removed]; ]
Mysterian [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Fw: Lone Ranger spot [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
Benny singers and smokin' [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
OTR references [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
Re: organ music [ "Clifton Martin" <martbart@peoplepc ]
Longest Running Actors in Prime Time [ Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed]; ]
Greatest Enetertainer of All Time [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
Re: OTR pet names, Glenn Miller [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
"The Littlest Angel" [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
pet names [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
the littlest angel [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:55:02 -0500
From: Steve Lewis <lewis@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dragnet, Richard Diamond & DVDs
On an earlier digest posting, MICHAEL BIEL said:
I've gotten several multi-DVD boxes with early 50s B&W Dragnets.
Both sets also contained other detective shows, such as Peter
Gunn. Average condition 16mm prints, not
>from original masters, but the Dragnets had very good sound quality.
Michael
I just got a DVD player and the what I bought next was a bargain two-DVD
set of old TV detective dramas, maybe the one you mention above with
Dragnets [OTR connection] and Peter Gunn, one of my all-time favorite shows.
The first show was Richard Diamond, however. [OTR connection] I was all
set to sit back and watch -- and there's this color logo in the lower
right-hand corner of the screen. A black and white show, and this stupid
yellow and orange and white logo. I turned it off. Except for sports and
the news, I have to force myself to watch TV with logos in the corner. Am
I the only one?
And if the standard format for DVDs is that they come with stupid,
obnoxious logos in the corner of the screen, that's the end of them for me
too. I certainly am not going to pay for them.
Best
Steve
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:23:39 -0500
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ATKINS 10 CENTS FOR DECODER
"...just send in the label and one THIN [removed]"
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:47:32 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-14 births/deaths
January 14th births
01-14-1892 - Hal Roach - Elmira, NY - d. 11-2-1992
film producer, actor: Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-14-1901 - Bebe Daniels - Dallas, TX - d. 3-16-1971
actress: "Louella Parsons"
01-14-1906 - William Bendix - NYC - d. 12-14-1964
actor: Chester A. Riley "Life of Riley"
01-14-1908 - Russ Columbo - Camden, NJ - d. 9-2-1934
singer, bandleader: "Russ Columbo Show"
01-14-1909 - Joseph Losey - La Crosse, WI - d. 6-22-1984
director: "Words at War"
01-14-1911 - David Gothard - Beardstown, IL - d. 8-2-1977
actor: Gil Whitney "Romance of Helen Trent"; Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin
Man"
01-14-1915 - George Ansbro - Brooklyn, NY
announcer: "Young Widder Brown"; "Waltz Time"
01-14-1915 - Mark Goodson - Sacramento, CA - d. 12-18-1992
producer, director: "Portia Faces Life"; "Stop the Music"
01-14-1919 - Andy Rooney - Albany, NY
writer: "Red Skelton Show"; "Arthur Godfrey"
January 14th deaths
01-27-1921 - Donna Reed - Dennison, IA - d. 1-14-1986
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Star and the Story"; "Silver Theatre"
08-19-1889 - Don "Uncle Don" Carney - St. Joseph, MO - d. 1-14-1954
host: "Uncle Don"; "Friendship Village"; "Dog Chats"
09-28-1916 - Peter Finch - London, England - d. 1-14-1977
actor: Australian Radio
12-25-1899 - Humphrey Bogart - NYC - d. 1-14-1957
actor: Slate Shannon "Bold Venture"; "Stars in the Air"; "Streamlined
Shakespeare"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:47:37 -0500
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: THE ORIGIN OF DOOZY
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I too used to think that word originated from the Duesenberg,
especially after I sat in one, a 1929 that used to belong to Tom Mix and one
we were
using for a scene in "Sunset" with Bruce Willis playing Tom.
I was playing a kidnapper on the other side of the law that day but the
chance to sit in the 'Doozy' made me slightly crazed, especially since I
collected old cars and had a '41 Packard, '36 Buick and '35 Ford back at my
home in
Hollywood.
The owner had a velvet rope around the thing so that no one even got
close.
He was a friendly guy and new me from the movies and allowed as how my
drooling ought to be rewarded. He opened the door and I stepped up and in and
was immediately impressed with how HUGE the thing was.
Even a big man would look like a child sitting in this thing.
The leather, the wood, beyond description.
The steering wheel was like grabbing hold of a polished wagon wheel.
Anyway, he told me the story of the origin of the word and it all seemed
so right at the time.
That was 1988.
However, as I am now very close to a woman who speaks Polish, I have
been lately impressed with several words in that language that seem to have
been
origins of some of our popular and even dated expressions.
Especially after the Polish have been coming to America since Kosciusko
fought with Washington during the American Revolution.
One of those words is the word for 'big.'
Not sure of the spelling but the pronunciation in Polish is "Doozha."
The word for your butt is also interesting.
Pronounced "Dupa" it could be the beginning of Super-Duper.
Love the living English language.
Maddening but oh so alive and always changing.
Michael C. Gwynne
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:19:14 -0500
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: POT ROAST
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I like Hal Stone's explanation of the laughter around the use of the
word 'Pot' during a broadcast. I too can see Phil Harris mugging and miming a
'hit' on a cigarette.
I would quibble with his usage of the phrase "Flower-Child" and
"Beatnik" in the same breath though. They were in fact sequential generations
rather
than simultaneous.
Flower Children were a product if the '60s of course and Beats from the
'50s.
The coded references to Marijuana go way back to the beginning of the
Twentieth Century at the very least and in fact the jazz clarinetist Mez
Mezzro,
not to be confused with Miff Mole, coined the term 'Muggles' in a book he
wrote many years ago. A word which we now recognize as either an 'in' joke
from
Ms. Rawling or the possibility that she's being channeled by long dead New
Orleans Jazz musicians and having the same heady effect on the youth of today
as
it always has.
Just a whimsy.
Michael C. Gwynne
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:55:26 -0500
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: this is [removed]
Thanks to everyone for the great info on hotels and gasoline, especially Alan
Chapman, Herb Harrison, Mark Kinsler, Bill H, and especially Stephen Kallis.
Though I am disappointed to find out that the Captain Midnight airline map
wasn't nearly as cool as it sounds on the show.
-chris holm
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:55:49 -0500
From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Martha Wentworth LP
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For Dennis [removed] brought up actress, Martha Wentworth (from THE CINNAMON
BEAR and THE WHISTLER).
I'm probably one of the few people who has an old 33 1/3 Stereo LP of TERROR
TALES by the Old Sea Hag. Martha Wentworth not only played the title
[removed] voiced all the other characters (male and female) on the
album. The 2-channel stereo would make the technical people chuckle, but Ms
Wentworth's performances are very good.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:56:27 -0500
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Jerry Haendiges
I've noticed some surprisingly negative posts in recent digests, and with
malice toward none, I wish to offer my own experience. I'm by no means a
steady customer, but have ordered cassettes and CDs from Jerry off and on
for about three years. Response time has always been prompt, and he's
usually thrown in a few extras for free depending on how much room is left
on the tapes. And, of course, his "pay upon receipt" policy is unique.
Last year, I sent him updates for a certain log and he graciously sent me
two programs from the series in question. About the only downside I've
noticed is that my updates haven't yet made it online - but then, life does
get tend to get in the way of our hobbies now and then.
Michael
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:56:56 -0500
From: "Albert" <alkb2ng@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: This and That
Minerva, of course, was the cat that belonged to Mrs. Davis, Miss Brooks'
landlady on Our Miss Brooks.
The story I once heard is that William Conrad was offered the role of Matt
Dillon on the TV version of Gunsmoke, but he declined because he felt that
the series would never last on television.
Finally, I recently caught just a part of an episode of Sgt. Preston of
the Yukon, and one of the supporting characters sounded to me exactly like
Brace Beemer. Is that possible? I know that both series did originate at
WXYZ in Detroit, but would the mighty Lone Ranger play bit part on that
"northern western?"
Regards,
Albert J. Kopec
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:57:24 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mysterian
Joe Politis noted,
I have a cat named Minerva. I'll leave it to you to guess what was my
favorite OTR show as a kid.
Suspense? ;-)
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:23:01 -0500
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fw: Lone Ranger spot
Last night as I was flipping channels, I came across a promotional spot for
the National Mentoring program, or something like that, in which an old
comic artist is speaking about the benefits of mentoring. They show close
ups of a Lone Ranger comic strip and for audio bed have some of the
statements from the opening of either the radio or TV program, not sure
which. Kind of exciting to hear that in such a context.
Joe Salerno
Video Works! Is it working for you?
PO Box 273405 - Houston TX 77277-3405 [removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:04:53 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Benny singers and smokin'
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Robert and Emily Burdick wrote:
I think that fellow who was talking about JACK BENNY AN HIS HIGH PITCHED
SINGER I BELIEVE WAS DENNIS DAY IF
I REMEMBER RIGHT.
I think I missed the question that prompted this, but Jack had multiple
tenors on his program. Kenny Baker was also a well-known one, and Larry
Stevens
filled in for Dennis Day during his Navy stint. If you need more information
on
the early ones, let me know.
And thanks to Hal Stone for the comment on "my pot roast". While familiar
with the term, I tend to turn off a lot of my more "modern" preconceptions
when
I'm listening to Benny shows, lest I join the ranks of people who interpret
Jack and Rochester as a homosexual couple. It's a good point, and not
something
that I would have figured out on my own. We didn't get to recording the
introductory notes for that show for Walden's Yesterday USA Benny segment, so
will
have to include that next time (with appropriate credit to Hal, of course).
Thanks!
Oh by the way, I found an even longer laugh than the Snow White and the Seven
Gangsters bit. See [removed] for more information.
--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:02:48 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR references
Last night I was listening to an episode of 'The Aldrich Family' in which
Henry and Homer each ordered 'skyscrapers' at the soda fountain. Since
this was a program I listened to as a youngster and since I grew up in the
NY area where the show originated I was surprised that I was hearing that
term for the first time. Means nothing to me -- who was an excellent soda
jerk at my Dad's place. Maybe it's a sandwich??
-Irene
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:29:36 -0500
From: "Clifton Martin" <martbart@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: organ music
Larry Albert answered his own question about OTR organ
music very well: Cheap (as opposed to an orchestra)
and it makes lots of sounds. No doubt my fellow
theater pipe organ freaks will come out of the woodwork
to expound on that magnifricent instrument at length.
almost all large stations and some not so large owned a
theater style pipe organ and had a staff organist to
standby waiting to fill in when the net line died. the
fellow who invented the theater organ didn't even call
it an organ, but a "unit orchestra," a whole orchestra
in one unit, playable by one person. The particualr
voicing of the theatrical instruments was designed not
to edify, as with a great church organ, but to
entertain, whether accompanying silent films or later
to make wonderful mood music for radio shows. So far as
I know, there is only playable radio station pipe organ
still in its original studio, at WMBI in Chicago. Now
isn't that more than you wanted to know, Larry?
Clif Martin
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:30:05 -0500
From: Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Longest Running Actors in Prime Time
It wasn't prime time, but we have to recognize Virginia Payne, the
actress who played Ma Perkins for an astonishing 7,065 consecutive
broadcasts, beginning Dec. 4, 1933, and ending Nov. 25, 1960 - almost
27 years of daily shows, according to John Dunning's Tune In Yesterday
(pp. 383-85).
Art Chimes
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:43:21 -0500
From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Greatest Enetertainer of All Time
I was astounded when on the People's Choice Awards, "the people" voted
Tom Hanks as the greatest entertainer of all time. He's a great movie actor,
no question, but to my mind he shouldn't have even been considered as a
candidate, let alone a finalist and ultimate winner. The other two finalists
were
Clint Eastwood and Bill Cosby.
That leads to my question. Who do you think really was the greatest
enetertainer
of all time? I can think of several possible candidates:
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Bob Hope
Al Jolson
Judy Garland
Jackie Gleason
Steve Allen
Lucille Ball
Carol Burnett
Tim Conway
Of course there are others worthy of consideration, but lets have some fun and
choose
our own Greatest Entertainer of All Time - the real one.
Al Girard
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:45:13 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR pet names, Glenn Miller
I have two cats, one named Molly McGee, who while unassuming, is
really the boss of the house and keeps me in line. The other is Blanche
Bickerson DuBois. When Blanche first moved in she would wake me in the
middle of the night. At the time I was only keeping her until the
person she owned claimed her (she was a stray, but well taken care of,
that a neighbour found) and didn't want to give her a name. You know
what happens when you name a animal. Anyway, one night after she woke
me I said absently mindedly "Oh Blanche, let me sleep" and that became
her name! (The DuBois part comes from Streetcar Named Desire and
Blanche DuBois who "depended in the kindness of strangers".)
A. Joseph Ross posed --
most likely it was "bombed" out of the sky by a returning flight of
Lancaster bombers which had to abort their mission
I thought the speculation was that it had crashed due to freezing on
the wings. The weather was icey, and the plane lacked de-icing gear.
There was a program on, I think, The History Channel (or maybe
Discovery) a couple of years ago about this. It was reported at the
time the plane had crashed due to icing, however, RAF pilots returning
from a bombing run had left over bombs on board their craft (forget why,
something malfunctioned I think) and with the plane in bad shape it was
decided to dump the bombs over the channel. When the bombs were dropped
Miller's plane happened to be in the wrong place and was hit. This was
supposedly covered up for many decades.
Of course should his plane ever be found the mystery should be
solved, one way or the other.
Joe
--
Visit my slightly updated (1/1/04) homepage:
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:45:44 -0500
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: "The Littlest Angel"
Ian Grieve asks about "The Littlest Angel."
Decca Records released a boxed set of three 45RPM records (Album Number
9-68) featuring Loretta Young reading Charles Tazewell's script, "The
Littlest Angel." His original story was written in 1946 and published by
the Children's Press.
I have the boxed set, picked up at an antiques fair for $5. Charles Paul
wrote the score, with Victor Young directing the orchestra. The Ken Darby
Choir is prominently featured. It's a wonderful listening experience for
child and parent alike
I would be glad to share, Ian.
Dennis Crow
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:38:42 -0500
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: pet names
My friend Derek called for pet names taken from Old Time Radio. Being a huge
fan of Lum and Abner, I wanted to name our new puppy after one of the
residents of Pine Ridge. I settled on "Grandpap". Thought it would be funny
to see guests reactions when they heard: "Oh, no. Grandpap made another mess
on the floor." "We'll have to tie him to a tree in the backyard." etc.
Needless to say, I was overruled by the wife and kids.
Mike Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:15:07 -0500
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: the littlest angel
The Littlest Angel was on family theater, if not other places. I don't
have the date here but I listened to it before Christmas. Taswell may
also have written The Tongueless Ones with Gregory Peck, and I wish there
were better copies around. Kurt
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