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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 245
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
FYI OTR goodies [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
oysters [ Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed] ]
Code Talkers [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Re:Shadow Portrayals [ Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed] ]
Month with "R" and shellfish [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed]; ]
RE: Philip Marlowe in the priesthood [ "Dick Lochte" <dlock@[removed]; ]
Who Knows What Evil Lurks [ "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@eart ]
need Counterspy title [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
OTR Cartoon References [ Randy Collins <rlcollins@bigplanet. ]
Me and My Shadow [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Mrs. Calabash, Another Explanation? [ Duane Keilstrup <duanek9@[removed]; ]
1942 Radio Listings [ Kubelski@[removed] ]
Oyster question [ Alan Bell <bella@[removed]; ]
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid [ GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@ ]
Re: Johnny Modero [ "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed]; ]
The Ubiquitous Calabash [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Who named Mary Livingstone? [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
STAGS [ "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed] ]
Mary Livingstone [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
ACTOR'S VOICES [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
Re: Operation Luna [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
Charles McGraw? [ "igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed]; ]
Re: WKRP [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:48:57 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: FYI OTR goodies
For FYI:
The lastest issue of Cult Movies (issue #34) available at bookstores and
newsstands offers an interesting article entitled "Deep Inside Boris
Karloff." It concludes with a list of Boris Karloff's radio credits. For
anyone who wants to get an idea of how much work Karloff put into radio
broadcasts, it's worth taking a look. (The information isn't 100% accurate
- there are a few mistakes here and there - Stars on Parade was May 4, 1951,
not circa 1941). The most definitive and highly detailed listing of
Karloff's radio credits can be found in the book "Boris Karloff: A
Gentleman's Life" by Scott Allen Nollen. John Eccles, Jr., who attends the
FOTR and other conventions, compiled the information with pure accuracy and
worth a peak at your bookstore.
While fans are talking about Dragnet and Jack Webb, I'm going to make a
shameless plug about a log already floating about (I think someone asked for
a source for an inexpensive broadcast log - sans history and biography) by
Terry Salomonson. It's for $[removed] post paid and terry can be reached at
terryotr@[removed]
Lastly, Blackstone the Magic Detective was discussed for a brief time.
There were, to the best of my knowledge, 78 fifteen-minute episodes made
(common for a syndicated series), and 54 of them are in circulation.
Episodes #1 to 48, 50, 51, 55 and 78. I have a broadcast log somewhere with
airdates and titles, but would love to know if the entire series is in
circulation. My father is a magician (believe-it-or-not) and he's listened
to many of these episodes, and described in detail to me, the origin of some
of the tricks that Blackstone taught the listeners at the end of each drama
(though some tricks were simple stuff that everyone has been doing for
decades).
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:48:52 -0400
From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: oysters
The standard wisdom is that one only Eats oysters in
months that contain the letter R in their name.
It's an interesting twist of humor to apply the "R" rule
to city names rather than months.
Henry Howard - moderator of the Radiodrama e-mail group
770 923 7955 [removed]
hhoward@[removed] Movies in your Mind
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:58:41 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Code Talkers
Last week in a White House ceremony, the Congressional Gold Medal was
presented to veterans of World War II who had served in the [removed] Marine
Corps as Navajo Code Talkers, and posthumously to family members of Code
Talkers now deceased. Several articles pointed out that these honors
were delayed in part because the very existence of Navajo Code Talkers
was classified information until about 1968.
The first use of Native American languages for military code was in
World War I. The newly-developed radiotelephone was seen as an
effective way to pass along messages quickly, but the openness of
transmission (a shortcoming that would soon give rise to the
broadcasting industry) meant that enemy forces could easily intercept
and comprehend. The original code talkers were mostly Choctaw, but it
was determined in WW2 that Navajo was better adapted to verbal
encryption. You can read all about the Navajo Code Talkers at
[removed].
Does anyone know of any radio programs dealing with code talkers?
Despite the secrecy that surrounded their service it seems to me that it
was pretty well known (Navajo Code Talkers play a significant role in
the 1955 movie “Battle Cry”). And are there any recordings of the
Navajo Code Talkers – not that I’d understand any of it, and I’m not
even an enemy.
--Bill Jaker
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:58:40 -0400
From: Kenneth L Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:Shadow Portrayals
Bottom line: If anyone should have a listing of the actors
who portrayed Lamont Cranston in "The Shadow" and the
years they were in the role, I'd appreciate it.
The ones I already know are: Orson Welles, Bill Johnstone,
Frank Readick, Bret Morrison, and (I think) someone named
James La Curto. Were there any others?
While we're on the subject, who played Margo Lane?
The only ones I know are Agnes Moorehead, Marjorie Anderson,
and Margot Stevenson. Were there any others?
I have several tapes of "The Shadow" where he is assisted, not
only by Margo, but by a taxi driver named Shrevy (sp?). I believe
the characters given name was Moe Shrevnitz. I enjoyed these
versions.
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:30:01 -0400
From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Month with "R" and shellfish
To clarify the "R" month joke. Refrigeration has nothing to do with the
"R" month, it can even happen even today.
During the summer months an algae, which is toxic to animals and
humans, accumulates in shellfish. Known as the "Red Tide" because of
the color of the ocean water, it occurs during the summer months and
ocean grown shellfish are sometimes quarantined due to the toxic
levels. Shellfish are generally safe from September through April (all
months with an "R" in their name).
Gerry Wright
ZoneZebra Productions
San Francisco
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:55:49 -0400
From: "Dick Lochte" <dlock@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: Philip Marlowe in the priesthood?
GEORGE WAGNER wrote, re the Philip Marlowe series:
This was also a man who'd once studied for the
priesthood and who could still remember his Latin when
the need arose.
Who was it who studied for the priesthood? I don't recall any reference
to Marlowe's religion in the books. In fact, I don't think Chandler
gives us much of a background at all, except that he played football in
college. Nothing about parents, siblings, etc. I can't believe Chandler
ever set foot in a seminary. That, as Sherlock Holmes might have
observed, leaves us with Gerald Mohr. Is he the Latin student?
Dick Lochte
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:55:52 -0400
From: "Mike Kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: "OTR DIGEST" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Who Knows What Evil Lurks
1. Regarding the The Shadow in the Pulps, Radio, and the 1994 Movie. It my
opinion that the 1994 Movie really combines the two more than anything else.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but in the Pulps the Shadow wasn't
really "invisible" and he wasn't really Lamont Cranston. Cranston was I
believe a minor character whose identity the Shadow assumed via disquise,
but Cranston was really a separate person. The Shadow was really Kent
Allard.
I highly recommend listening closely to the Orson Welles show "THE TEMPLE
BELLS OF NEBAN" which briefly hints at the Shadow's origin.
2. Ryan O. commented on "Soceity of the Living Dead", the Welles Shadow
episode. This is one my favorite shadow shows. I've often wondered if might
have been possible inspiration for the scene in the 1994 movie where the
Shadow is trapped room at end filling up with water.
Mike Kerezman
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:55:56 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: need Counterspy title
The mention of the Counterspy series brings to mind one episode for
which I need a title. In it, Harding's assistant, Peters, is shot and
in need of a heart surgeon.
Can anyone tell me what the title of this show might be?
Thanks in advance,
Arlene Osborne
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:31:25 -0400
From: Randy Collins <rlcollins@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Cartoon References
Hi Everyone, I'm a longtime reader, infrequent contributor who just had to
post something I've noticed lately while viewing old cartoons my three sons
have been watching--yes, I enjoy them probably more than they do, especially
since due to my OTR fascination I've been privy to some "inside jokes" on
the cartoons themselves. My youngest son was watching Tex Avery's classic
MGM "Swing Shift Cinderella" the other day and I noticed the fairy godmother
was boozing it up at a joint called "Duffy's Cavern". (ha!) Also, while
viewing a Bugs Bunny 'toon with my middle son, Bugs enters an old house
where crooks are "holed" up and the door squeaks as he enters; to which he
states "hey-sounds like Inner Sanctum"--remember that line now? I've seen
that short 20 times in my life and never noticed it till now. Also, another
MGM 'toon called "Who Murdered Who" (I believe that's right) features a
skeleton coming out of the closet, followed by a skeleton colored red who
announces his name as "Red skeleton"--ha ha--in a voice I believe is Red
Skelton's. Just a couple of "inside" OTR pun's I've noticed in the last week
on some classic 'toons. I'm going to watch the backgrounds, listen to the
dialogue a little closer, etc. on the MGM, Warner Brothers, and so on
cartoons my children are viewing so as to get a little more humor perhaps
out of the classic 40's and 50's cartoons related to OTR. Maybe you can,
too.
Randy Collins
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:31:27 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Me and My Shadow
Owens Pomeroy, speaking of The Shadow, pointed out that there was a
dichotomy between the pulp magazine and OTR versions of the title
character.
I just watched my Video of The Shadow Movie, and while doing so, I
wondered why the radio version did not faithfully follow the Gibson/Grant
Pulps, which is what the movie did. <<
Actually, the movie was an attempt to develop a Hegelian synthesis of the
two versions. The Shadow, in the pulps, used his costume and the
darkness to remain unseen, without the power to cloud minds. In the
radio show, Lamont Cranston learned such a power "years ago, in the
Orient." In the radio show, the character _was_ Lamont Cranston; in the
pulps, The Shadow was Kent Allard, who assumed the identity of Lamont
Cranston as one of several.
In fact the scene on the bridge, where the shadow saves the Chinese man
was from the very first
Shadow Novel. <<
Except that the person saved from the bridge wasn't about to be executed
by gangsters, and was in fact Harry Vincent, destined to become one of
The Shadow's major aides.
In the radio version, we never learned bout Lamont's past, as it is
only mentioned in the opening introduction to the radio play. <<
But the movie's "origin story" is at sharp variance to the pulp fiction
stories of Kent Allard's past. Apparently, it was derived from a much
later The Shadow comic book series published by National (DC) comics.
. I am surprised that Grant/Gibson (whom I presumed was alive when the
Sghadow first made its debut on radio), did not insist that the radio
play be true to the [removed];<
Save that Gibson was a writer-for-hire, and doesn't seem to have had
creative control over what went into the radio show. And realistically,
the pulp version of The Shadow probably wouldn't have worked half as well
as the invisible version as presented.
I would like to say that The Shadow Movie really did not take "Dramatic
Liberty" with the story and gave us a "Novel For The Movies." <<
Well, a few things here. As noted, the origin story of The Shadow in the
film _did_ take license with the pulp version, though "years ago in the
Orient" is brief enough to be ... umm .. not at variance with what was
presented on the radio. But also, my mother, who now is 94, saw the film
twice -- once in the theater and once on videotape (she now owns a copy)
and she loves the atmosphere, which she tells me is absolutely authentic
(she was living in New York during the time the film was supposed to be
taking place). But certain things of the pulp were missing, including
The Shadow going to his dark little room where her sat in the darkness
with his lamp with the blue lightbulb where he moved little pieces of
paper with clues written on them to assist him in solving his crimes.
If there are any Shadow experts out there, I would like to know if you
share this opinion about the radio version of The [removed];<
I think that the movie was okay, but I felt and feel that the radio
version of The Shadow is closest to the stuff of legends. This is why I
prefer the radio version.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:31:29 -0400
From: Duane Keilstrup <duanek9@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Mrs. Calabash, Another Explanation?
There is a third possible explanation (in addition to Mr. Ross' citing of 2
explanations covered at some point in a previous Digest) for the derivation
of Jimmy Durante's Mrs. Calabash reference. Perhaps no one can substantiate
this explanation either, but according to a report from Ontario by one Ted
Tyson, Jimmy and his entertainment troupe were passing through Calabash,
[removed] and stopped for a bite to eat at a restaurant run by a Lucille Coleman.
Jimmy was taken with the friendliness of Lucille (who apparently did not
even recognize Jimmy) and told her he would make her famous, thinking she
indeed did recognize him. Lucy's daughter, Clarice declares that as Jimmy
was walking out of the restaurant, he turned to her Mom and said, "Good
night, Mrs. Calabash." Lucy evidently declined interviews about this
encounter later, but Jimmy began signing off his radio show with his famous
Mrs. Calabash reference soon after that encounter, apparently as an
intriguing mystery and evidently as a way of keeping his promise to make her
famous. Mr. Tyson reports that Lucy died in 1989, but being a very private
person, kept silent to the end. Mr. Tyson maintains that folks in Calabash,
[removed] still believe this story. See
[removed].
I, of course, simply pass this information along and hope that someone
somewhere has done research to discover the truth.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:46:27 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 1942 Radio Listings
I was reading through the radio listings of the March 31, 1942 issue of PM
Daily, a New York newspaper I picked up at REPS and reviewing the radio
listings. The amazing thing was how many familiar shows were on just in one
day.
One thing I noticed was the blocks of soaps - Against the Storm - Ma Perkins
- Pepper Young's Family - Vic 'N Sade - Backstage Wife - Stella Dallas -
Lorenzo Jones - Young Widder Brown. That was NBC Network WEAF 660 in New
York's afternoon schedule - 3:00 [removed] - 5:00 [removed]
However, the next afternoon, on WABC 880 - the CBS affiliate, has Vic and
Sade on at 1:30 [removed]
Does anyone know why Vic and Sade would be repeated day-after-day on
competing networks?
Furthermore, does anyone know why WABC was the CBS Affiliate in New York in
1942? 880 is currently CBS' all news station in that market - what's the
history behind the switch?
Thanks for any insight,
Sean Dougherty
kubelski@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:20:09 -0400
From: Alan Bell <bella@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Oyster question
Holy Cow! As Stan Freberg once said (in "The United States of
America" vol. 1) "Ask a simple question I get a pageant!: ;^)
I got no fewer than 13 answers to my question about the oyster joke
in the Jack Benny show. And once I read the first one, I slapped my
forehead, and said "D'oh!" (or words to that effect) "Of course!" I
had totally forgotten that "R" business with the months. Sailed right
over my head.
Well, thanks all. Until next time I need a joke [removed]
Alan
--
Alan Bell
Grandville, MI
bella@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:20:08 -0400
From: GEORGE WAGNER <gwagneroldtimeradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Stupid, Stupid, Stupid
I wrote that there is no "R" in April.
Let's face it - I have gone completely around the
bend bonkers mad.
Sorry to so disgrace the list!
George Wagner
GWAGNEROLDTIMERADIO@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:20:06 -0400
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Johnny Modero
Barbara wrote:
I just want to correct the misspelling of Jack Webb's
character name. Somehow the wrong spelling has been perpetuated throughout
the hobby for years. I've been told it even appears in the new book by
Michael J. Hayde. It is not Madero, it is M-O-D-E-R-O, with two o's.
Yikes! It's true, folks, but I have to say that it was spelled with an "a"
in John Dunning's 1976 edition of "Tune in Yesterday" which was the first
source I consulted for info on Webb's OTR work. (It also shows up that way
in Maltin's book, presumably for the same reason.) I just now perused my
various photocopies and naturally it's spelled with two "O's" everywhere
else! Mea culpa for not paying closer attention; I'd have gone straight to
some newspaper's radio guide if I'd noticed.
Thanks Barbara! Hopefully I can get it, and the mispelling of EdmOnd
O'Brien, corrected in the next printing.
Michael J. Hayde
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:21:47 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Ubiquitous Calabash
Speaking of Jimmy Durante, A. Joseph Ross notes,
It's been covered in this forum before, but in a nutshell, there are
two explanations for Mrs. Calabash. <snip> Jimmy Durante's first wife,
<snip> in a script conference, it was felt that Durante needed a
distinctive tag-line, and Mrs. Calabash was named after a calabash pipe
that someone was smoking.
On Paul Harvey's "The Rest of The Story," there was a third explanation.
According to that narrative, when Durante was just starting out, as an
aspiring performer, he spent a lot of time at a local diner in the town
he lived. The proprietress of the diner kept encouraging him to follow
his dream, and predicted that some day he'd be a big star. In the
account, Durante was supposed to have said, after he got his first break,
that he'd never forget the lady, and would always think of her while
performing. The upshot was that the diner's proprietress became "Mrs.
Calabash," though it wasn't clear in the Paul Haervey rendition whether
it was her real name or a nickname that Durante gave her.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:21:44 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who named Mary Livingstone?
I do know that a lot of people mis-spell Mrs. Benny's name as Livingston,
because that's the way it was said on the air. Since we are now informed
it wasn't her real name, but the name of the character for The Jack Benny
Program, why did they spell it with an E at the end in a radio script,
where the audience would not see it in print? Why not do it phonetically?
Reminds me of the media's strange spellings of Russian and Polish leaders
which after all should be phonetic, but which are not pronounced on radio
and TV as spelled. Howzcome?
Back to Mary Livingstone, what was her real name? I believe it was
Marx. Was she related to the Marx Brothers?
Lee Munsick "That Godfrey Guy"
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:21:42 -0400
From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: STAGS
Roby McHone wrote:
"Speaking of [removed] Stone and Ian Grieve crack me up, they should be
on
the stag together (maybe with Don Rickles)."
Here was I, thinking that people would hammer us for getting off the otr
topic. I arrived at work today and found some nice e-mails from people
saying they enjoyed the banter. Thank you.
This one I am not so sure of, being 'on the stag' together with Hal Stone,
is this some sort of American custom? I've been to Stag parties and I have
seen pictures of stags, but I am not sure how the two go together except
maybe at a rodeo. Now that would be a picture for "THE BOOK"
I have been reading the comments regarding the best Detective shows and who
is the best Marlowe etc and it has been fantastic. Being a child of
television and also of a different country, I listen to these shows without
a 'History'. Because I have never heard them before, I am not confused or
distracted by memories. I also have only listened to a couple of different
detective series at this stage which is why I didn't throw in my 'Pacific
Peso's' worth. But I certainly enjoy finding out more about what is
available. When you list actual episodes,that makes it very handy. Believe
me it is tough to look at the name of a series and know what genre it is :)
I enjoy the information that is supplied on the Digest and thank you all for
educating me.
Ian Grieve
'on the stag'
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:21:45 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mary Livingstone
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 10:37:59 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
My daughter tells me that Mary
was also named by Jack's writers. She says that the writers created a
character who was president of the Jack Benny Fan Club, and they named
her Mary Livingstone. Jack's wife played the part, and thereby took
Mary Livingstone as her stage name.
Close. According to Irving Fein's book, =Jack Benny: An Intimate
Biography=, the character the writers created was a young fan from
Plainfield, New Jersey, not the fan club president. She was to appear
and read a crazy poem in tribute to Labor Day. When they were
auditioning girls to play the part, Jack suggested that they try her out.
She read the script so well that she got the part. Then the bit went over
so well that another poem was written for her to read the following week.
Eventually, it seemed awkward to have this "fan" keep returning each
week, so Jack "hired" her as his secretary.
Sadie Marks (Mary Livingstone's real name) had never been to
Plainfield, New Jersey, but for years, she still received fan letters from
people who insisted they went to school with her in Plainfield.
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:37:10 -0400
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ACTOR'S VOICES
I can think of no more antithetical and diametrically opposite vocal
qualities that Frank Lovejoy and Charles McGraw!
It would be like comparing the reedy sound of an oboe to the growl
baritone saxophone!
Jer51473, you must be thinking of someone else.
One of the great joys of radio is recalling voices and spotting them in
various characters.
Wish I could help, but certainly one of the greatest gifts for a career
in radio is a distinctive voice.
I recall seeing a few movies where I heard a bit-part player say a few
words a realized that it was a radio actor I knew as well as the back of my
hand.
Lemme know if you solve the puzzle.
By the way, I once had my hair cut at my home in the Hollywood Hills back
in the late 70's in preparation for a part by a delightful young lady who
mentioned that her parents were both in show business.
When I asked if I might know them she said possibly and when I inquired
further for some names she said her Father was Frank Lovejoy and her Mother
Joan Banks and did I know them!
I was thrilled.
We were both delighted for the rest of the shoot.
Wish I could remember her name.
<A HREF="[removed],+Michael+C.">Michael
C. Gwynne</A>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:37:12 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Operation Luna
Well, I'll stick my neck out here. I believe they are Jet Morgan, Lemmy
Barnet, Doc Mathews and Stephen Mitchell.
Frank
Frank, I was looking for the names of the actors. Here they are
phonetically, but I could use some help with the actual spelling.
Andrew Folds - Jeff Morgan
Alphy Bass - Lemmy
Guy Kingsly Pointer - Doc
David Williams - Mitch (I think I got that one right)
It was written by Charles Chilton. Is that spelled correctly?
Fred
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New e-commerce page [removed]
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:08:22 -0400
From: "igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Charles McGraw?
Jer51473@[removed] wrote:
Frank Lovejoys voice is identical, imo, to another actor that i have
heard on the radio and seen in movies. I think the other guy is Charles
Mcgraw. I cannot tell one voice from the [removed];<
Are you sure it isn't Edward Binns you're thinking of? I can't see a
similarity between Lovejoy and McGraw's voices, to be honest. Eddie
Mueller in his book on film noir, DARK CITY, remarks that McGraw had a
voice that sounded like he was being [removed]
I am a huge McGraw fan, btw -- one of the all-time great character
actors in the [removed]
Ivan
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:24:07 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: WKRP
I was amazed that "WKRP In Cincinnati" was able to use those call letters
since there IS and had been for a long time in Cincinnati: WKRC.
Bill Knowlton, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE," WCNY-FM: Syracuse, Utica, Watertown NY
(since Jan. 1973). Sundays, 9 pm est: [removed]
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