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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 274
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
DVDs for 99 cents! [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
Re: origin of robot [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
Dick Van Patten [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
Peter Lorre [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
Moe, Laryy, [removed] Lamont? [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
Gunsmoke: pronunciation of woman [ "Gary Johnson" <garyj@imagesjournal ]
Is you is or [removed] [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
Re: Dragnet movie on AMC [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
8-21 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Superman Radio Log [ "Michael Delisa" <mdelisa@bormarlaw ]
Elinor Hirschfield Nathan [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Bass and The Lottery [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:07:23 -0400
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: DVDs for 99 cents!
Hi,
Here in the "western United States" (as Fred Foy would say), the cheap store
chain is called "The 99 Cent Store and they've loaded their displays with
many different new DVDs. Mostly old (public domain?) movies, but also a lot
of our OTR friends' TV efforts as well. As mentioned before, The Lone
Ranger, Red Skelton, Jack Benny, Martin & Lewis, Abbott & Costello, Lucy,
The Rifleman, Bonanza, Dragnet and others including cartoons are all going
for a buck! Looks like someone is ordering from the Alpha Video folks and
knocking off DVD copies ASAP.
Not exactly OTR, but collector-related.
Bobb
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:02:04 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: origin of robot
At 09:06 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote:
Was this the way "robot" was generally pronounced? My dictionary says the
word is derived from Czech [removed] maybe they are just being more
formally accurate?
The word is of Czech origin as you say, but unlike many sources which gives
Karel Capek credit for coining the word, it was actually his brother Josef
who coined it. It was part of Karel Capek's 1920 play [removed] or Rossum's
Universal Robots about mechanical humans performing the drudgery of work.
The Czech word robota does mean slave or drudgery (depending upon your
source) and the Capek's popularized the word by the success of Karel's play.
The play was later made into a radio drama which still exists today and is
in circulation. The drama was broadcast on May 30, 1937 under the auspices
of the WPA.
As to the fifties pronunciations, I suspect it was just the one that was
typically used at the time just as many early radio plays and films always
pronounced Los Angeles as Los ANGLE-IS.
Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:02:34 -0400
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Dick Van Patten
Observing the various posts on the list recently about Dick Van Patten, he
is also apparently in the pet food business! His name is on the "Natural
Balance" label and it is an excellent dog food and nutritious with only
natural ingredients. My dog, Murphy, loves it! Thanks, Dick for producing
a product line with integrity, not fillers.
(Testimonial is unsolicited and I have no connection with the company, other
than there's a large bag of the dog food product in my garage.)
=Russ Butler oldradio@[removed]
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:09:54 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Peter Lorre
Jazmaan Wrote:
Any other good Lorre shows out there you can recommend?
Personally I always liked 1942 war time drama on SUSPENSE "Til Death Due us
Part" which I first heard as a youngster on a Radio Yestertear Record that
my Dad bought in the late 1970s.
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Ok
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:10:23 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Moe, Laryy, [removed] Lamont?
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Hiya Gang:
I was wondering if somebody out there can answer this "cross-topic" query for
me regarding
OTR and the Three Stooges.
I seem to remember some schtick in which the Boys are horsin' around in front
of a radio
microphone-- a set-up which inspires Moe to break into an impromptu knock-off
of the Shadow's
"who knows what evil" opening.
Does this ring a bell with anybody, and, if so, in which short subject did
this occur? It might've
been "Micro-Phonies," in which Curly is mistaken for an on-air operatic
[removed] I'm not
particularly sure Moe Howard doing "the Shadow" in a radio-themed film just
seems too
obvious.
Help!
Derek Tague
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:50:49 -0400
From: "Gary Johnson" <garyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gunsmoke: pronunciation of woman
Hi. I recent question posted to this list about the pronunciation of "robot"
in '50s sci-fi OTR made me wonder about Matt Dillon's pronunciation of
"woman" in GUNSMOKE. He says "woe-mun." I've never heard anyone else
pronounce woman like this. Does anyone know the source of his pronunciation?
Best,
Gary Johnson
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:53:47 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Is you is or [removed]
My dictionary says the
word [robot] is derived from Czech origins<<
The word "robot" was coined by the painter Josef Capek, the older
brother of the playwright Karel Capek (1890-1938):
[removed]
In 1920, Karel Capek wrote "[removed] - Rossum's Universal Robots" which
popularized the word. Text of play:
[removed]
The Capek brothers took the term from the Czech words "robota" (forced
labor) and "robotnik" (peasant). The origin has been traced back to the
feudal system in which peasants were forced to leave their own fields a
few days a week to work for noblemen.
A protoplasm substitute was used to create Capek's synthetic men.
Description from the play: "The Robots are dressed like people. Their
movements and speech are laconic. Their faces are expressionless and
their eyes fixed. In the play proper they are wearing linen shirts
tightened at their waists with a belt and have brass numbers on their
chests."
First performed in Prague in 1921, Capek's "fantastic melodrama" opened
on Broadway 9 October 1922, a Theatre Guild production that ran 368
performances. Spencer Tracy and Pat O'Brien were roommates at the time,
and both appeared as robots in the 1922 production. It was performed on
BBC radio in 1927:
[Cecil] Lewis then adapted and directed '[removed]' (Karel Capek) (27 May
1927 London [removed]) and the accompanying The Radio Times publicity,
again written by Lewis, explained that it would not use a Narrator: "The
Radio version will not be presented, like the broadcast production 'Lord
Jim', in a series of short scenes linked by a story-teller. That was a
study in psychology. The interest lay in the things which happened to
the central character. [removed] is a play to start with – a play of ideas
– and the development of these ideas demands a sustained scene. The
Radio version, however, will show a complete picture without the need of
any intermediate announcements." -- The Radio Times<<
[removed] was televised on the BBC in 1938 and 1948. In the [removed] it was
seen on the syndicated BROADWAY TELEVISION THEATRE in 1953.
Bhob @ VINTAGE NEWSPAPER COMIC STRIPS @
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:02:11 -0400
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Dragnet movie on AMC
jhcollins made mention of the "Dragnet" movie to be shown on American Movie
Channel this coming Monday at 8:15am.
Just to clarify: this is the made-for-TV movie, produced in 1966, that
brought about DRAGNET's first revival. In addition to Mr. Perrin and Ms.
Gregg, be on the lookout for Herb Ellis, Eddie Firestone, Ralph Manza, Olan
Soule, Frank Coghlan Jr., Sarah Selby and the two dear gentlemen we lost this
year: Harry Bartell and Sam Edwards.
If there are any baseball enthusiasts here, don't miss the scene where Sgt.
Friday lands into a child molester who dares to hurl an epithet at an
African-American detective. The fellow cop is played by then-Dodgers catcher
John Roseboro, best remembered for getting clubbed on the head twice by Juan
Marichal's bat seven months before this film was shot.
Michael
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:02:38 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-21 births/deaths
August 21st births
08-21-1882 - Helen Carew - KS - d. 3-7-1980
actress: Vera Johnson "Stella Dallas"; "Mrs. Mitchell "Barry Cameron"
08-21-1890 - Bill Henry - San Francisco, CA - d. 4-24-1970
commentator: Chief CBS Correspondent
08-21-1900 - Ken Carpenter - Avon, IL - d. 10-16-1984
announcer: "Kraft Music Hall"; "One Man's Family"; "Edgar Bergen/Charlie
McCarthy Show"
08-21-1904 - William Allen "Count" Basie - Red Bank, NJ - d. 4-26-1994
bandleader: "Command Performance"; "Jubilee"
08-21-1906 - Carlton Kadell - Danville, IL - d. 3-14-1975
announcer, actor: Tarzan "Tarzan"; Red Ryder "Red Ryder"
08-21-1908 - Bob Jellison - IA - d. 4-21-1980
actor: Oswald Ching "Story of Mary Marlin"; Buster Gunn "Great Gunns"
08-21-1908 - Tom Tully - Durango, CO - d. 4-27-1982
actor: Charles Martin "Stella Dallas"
08-21-1913 - John Faulk - Austin, TX - d. 4-9-1990
humorist, writer: "Forecast"; "Says Who?"; "Hootenanny"
08-21-1920 - Billy Idelson - Forest Park, IL
actor: Rush Gook "Vic and Sade"; Henry Herbert Murray "One Man's Family"
08-21-1923 - Chris Schenkel - Bippus, IN
sportscaster: "Campy's Corner"; "11:30 Clubhouse"
08-21-1924 - Jack Buck - Holyoke, MA - d. 6-18-2002
baseball broadcaster: St. Louis Cardinals
08-21-1938 - Kenny Rogers - Houston, TX
country/western singer: "Here's to Veterans"
August 21st deaths
04-30-1903 - Fulton Lewis, Jr. - Washington, [removed] - d. 8-21-1966
commentator: "News and Comments"
05-01-1894 - Sam McGee - d. 8-21-1975
guitarist: (Performed with the "Fruit Jar Drinkers") "Grand Ole Opry"
08-14-1914 - Alyce King - Payson, UT - d. 8-21-1996
singer: (The King Sisters) "Horace Heidt and His Brigadiers"; "Al Pearce and
His Gang"
12-09-1918 - George Heinemann - d. 8-21-1996
creator: "Faces in the Window"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:04:18 -0400
From: "Michael Delisa" <mdelisa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Superman Radio Log
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I found the following on [removed]
The webpage prints the entire revised log.
Best, Mike DeLisa
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Superman Radio Episode List --
This Superman Radio Episode List has been compiled by Frank
(frank840@[removed]).
This log is adapted & excerpted from the book "Radio Drama, American
Programs, 1932-1962" by Martin Grams, Jr. ISBN 0-7864-0051-X
I've made the following changes and corrections (I hope) to the original
material:
1) The chronicler miscounted the number of episodes of "The Radar Rocket",
this threw off all subsequent episode numbers by 2.
2) There were no episodes broadcast on 1/1/46, 1/1/47 and 1/1/48, I have
removed them from this log.
3) The log indicated that episodes 20 & 21 were the first 2 episodes of "The
Emerald of the Incas", however upon listening to them they clearly are the
final 2 episodes of the Yellow Mask/Dyerville adventure. I've labeled them
as such here.
4) The chronicler labelled all episodes from 11/11/40 through 12/11/40 as
"The Invisible Man". Other logs show 11/25 through 12/11 as "The $5 Million
Gold Heist". Upon listening, these are obviously two separate serials and
they are so labelled here.
5) In all the logs I've seen, the 22 episode serial from 7/02/46 to 7/31/46
is listed as "Horatio F. Horn: Detective". Upon listening, the final 8
episodes are obviously a completely different serial, I've labelled these
episodes as "The Super Sleuth".
6) "Pennies for Plunder" is listed as 18 episodes. However, since chapter 18
ends with "stay tuned tomorrow for chapter 19", it's fairly safe to say this
is incorrect. I've (rather arbitrarily) listed "Pennies" as having 19
episodes. This also calls into question the number of episodes in "Hunger,
Inc." since the first few episodes are missing. I've arbitrarily decided
this was 11 episodes instead of 12 since the first few (?) episodes are
missing.
Something I didn't know what to do about is that in 1 or 2 places, the log
dates indicate that the show was aired 6 days in a week, instead of 5. I've
left these dates alone.
Many people use Jerry Haendiges log, available on the Web at
[removed]. I've tried to reconcile these two
logs, but there's too many mis-matches and miscounts. I've settled for a
simple "linear" episode list. I re-started the episode numbers for the
1949-1095 30-minute episodes.
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:10:12 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Elinor Hirschfield Nathan
I have come across a source that says one Elinor Hirschfield Nathan played a
character named Ruby Taylor on the radio series "Amos 'n' Andy." I can find no
other evidence of this, is this true or is the source in error?
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:24:16 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bass and The Lottery
A few items that caught my attention:
First, there the Fletcher-Munson effect which
accentuates/raises the ability to listen at lower
levels by increasing the bass. It increases or
seems to increase the volume without actually raising
the volume.
It is sometimes called "Loudness" on stereos or
hi-fi's.
"The Lottery" I think was a French film or the version
I saw in high school and because there was no
dialogue, it didn't matter. Rod Serling included this
in an episode of The Twilight Zone with his usual
narration and commercials, so it was close to 28-29
minutes long.
After airing on network TV, this was one of the few
episodes removed from circulation in syndication.
I have a friend who has a need for a good, used reel
deck that is capable of recording and monitoring while
recording. Not sure what brands come to mind, but
Teac and Pioneer are good examples. Please e-mail me
privately to let me know what you have and how much
you want.
Andy Blatt
asajb2000@[removed]
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