Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #150
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 5/31/2006 9:50 AM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 150
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Superman's Identity                   [ "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  The name's the same                   [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Re: Aviation                          [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
  Re: Archie Andrews                    [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
  Farm news still on radio?             [ Joemartelle@[removed] ]
  farm news                             [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Longtime comic strip runs on OTR      [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  WCCO, WNAX and all the [removed]        [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  5/30 deaths                           [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
  farm radio                            [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Re: Farm Reports                      [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Farm news in the Windy City           [ "Cynthia Heimsoth" <chibibarako@hot ]
  5-31 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Farm news                             [ "Arthur Funk" <art-funk@[removed]; ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Inner Sanctum Mystery                 [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:01:56 -0400
From: "Karen Lerner" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Superman's Identity
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I must add a note to Jack French's entry about the Dynamic Duo's knowledge of
Superman's secret identity.  Mr. French wrote that all three knew eachother's
identity.  That may have been true at some point in the series, but it wasn't
so from the beginning.  In doing research for our new Superman release I
listened to The Mystery of the Stolen Costume serial (which began on
03-10-48).  Through the course of this serial Batman has to keep Robin in the
dark regarding some of their efforts on Superman's behalf because he does not
know that Superman is really Clark Kent.  When Robin presses Batman for
details he simply tells him, "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies."

I don't know how Superman and Batman become aware of eachother's identities,
nor do I know if and/or when Robin ever learns Superman's identity.  If anyone
does, I'd be interested to listen to those episodes.  It seems that any time I
work on a collection I become attached to the series!  I was particularly
impressed by the public service messages that promoted understanding and spoke
against prejudice.

Karen Lerner
Radio Spirits, Inc.

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:13:51 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The name's the same

A columnist in the current issue of Tampa Bay Magazine
speculates on the origin of a couple of fairly busy parallel
one-way streets flowing in opposite directions in Tampa's
western residential and business environs.  The writer
suggests that the avenues derived their monikers in 1953
when the city incorporated some portions of Hillsborough
County and unified variously titled segments of multiple
tagged unconnected roads.  Both north-south streets are
approximately 24 miles long with some interruptions.  The
more important is Lois Avenue while a block east is Clark
Avenue.  A city supervisor of rights of way purports that
the companion roadways were dubbed for Lois Lane and Clark
Kent, lead characters in Superman.  While the show was on
radio as early as 1938, its syndicated televersion arrived
in some places in 1951, and in Tampa in 1952.  With TV the
new rage in town then, its lead characters apparently became
the appellations of a couple of noteworthy thoroughfares on
the area's western fringe.  "Too bad," wrote the columnist,
"the Lois Avenue roadway was too extensive to be called Lois
Lane."  What a nice touch that could have been!

Any other towns you can think of with OTR-related street or
landmark ties beyond the Allen's Alley discussion we've had
many times?

Jim Cox

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:14:05 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Aviation
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Can anyone think of an OTR aviation series such as Captain Midnight, or Hop
Harragan just to name two, who made if from propeller aircraft, to jet powered
 aircraft?

Also, I find it interesting to listen to the old shows, and hear where they
put the emphasis on words. Like hot dogs. The emphasis today is on hot in most
 instances. In most cases back in the hey day of OTR, the emphasis was on
dog.  Can anyone think of other's?

Charlie

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:14:40 -0400
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Archie Andrews

Hal Stone finished one of Pop Tate's burgers, and said:

"Archie" might have morphed
eventually into a daily or weekly comic "Strip", but I don't know that for
a fact.

"Archie" is (or was) both a daily and Sunday comic strip. I don't know off the
top of my head when the strip started syndication, but I'm guessing the
1950s. The strips ran under the signature of Bob Montana until his death in
1975; Montana created the original look of the characters, a look they
retained officially until Dan DeCarlo redesigned them in the 1960s.

I always considered part of Archie's charm to be that right to this very day
you can open up one of the comic books and find stories that are drawn in the
DeCarlo style, the Montana style (complete with Betty and Veronica in snoods
and long skirts!) and everything in between - the gang has been around for
something like six decades, and the house style hasn't settled yet!

Michael Shoshani
Chicago

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:14:51 -0400
From: Joemartelle@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Farm news still on radio?
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The subject of FARM NEWS got me thinking back to my days on air at WLW in
Cincinnati.

In the early 70's, I was fortunate to host the ALL-NIGHT Show at WLW.
Reaching out to
37 States, Canada, Mexico and a variety of islands in the Carribbean was
lots of fun. My show was on from Midnight until 5AM. At 5AM, I put my
'ANNOUNCERS HAT on and had the priviledge of introducting Bob Miller to the
zillions of
Mid-Westerners who depended on his Farm and agriculture news to  start their
day. Bob Miller's Farm Report ran from 5-6AM.
Bob was a fun guy, who took his job very seriously. I also remember quite
distinctly,quite often, he would broadcast from various State and county
fairs--ex: Ohio State Fair, Indiana, etc. He virtually made personal
appearances
--representing the heartland's farmers--all over the Midwest, because of
WLW's
50,000 watt Clear Channel reach.
My question to other digest [removed] Bob Miller still broadcasting Farm
news and does WLW still broadcast early morning Farm reports?
Please feel free to reply via the digest or to me, off line.
Many thanks and all my best!

Joe Martelle
_joemartelle@[removed]_ (mailto:joemartelle@[removed])

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:15:03 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  farm news

Our local WRFD was an all-farm station until some religious broadcasting
consortium bought it a few years back.  They still have a noon farm
broadcast that originates from the Ohio Farm Bureau.  My guess is that
farmers these days get all the price, weather, and crop progress information
they need from sources on the Internet.

The big screens that hang down from the ceiling of the Chicago Mercantile
Exchange have continuous displays of rainfall, prices, and everything else
you hear on a farm broadcast.  I imagine that you can get these feeds via
Internet.

M Kinsler

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:30:44 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Longtime comic strip runs on OTR

On Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Hal Stone wrote:

As to the other comic strips that became radio shows, did any of the
above
mentions shows eclipse our (Archie Andrews) program's 10 year run?
(Grin)

Well, two of the four comic strips Stephen Kallis mentioned did exceed
Archie's ten years on radio.   Dick Tracy ran 13 years (2-35 to 7-48)
and Little Orphan Annie lasted 11 years (4-31 to 4-42)

However for those who revere quality over quantity, obviously "Archie
Andrews" was better (particularly in their cast) than Dick and Annie
were.

Jack French

Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:53:35 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WCCO, WNAX and all the [removed]

Sorry to read from Jim that WCCO has got out of the farm reporting business.
I think that is a move they will regret.  They serve farm states and not all
farmers have time to sit in front of their computers and surf the net!  If
WGN Chicago can still serve farmers, too bad that a famous Minneapolis-St.
Paul station cannot.

WNAX, Yankton, SD (570 khz) covers a 5-state farm area and is still in the
farm news business.  In fact the Neighbor Lady (Wynn Speece) who is in her
80s continues her 60+ year career talking to the ladies every weekday
morning at 9:30 am.

Some good things just keep on being good, and reliable, and durable, and
wonderful!

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
[removed]~stmarkch/
Democrats: [removed]
Kids o/t New Century: [removed]

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:02:51 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  5/30 deaths

 > 04-03-1894 - Dooley Wilson - Tyler, TX - d. 5-30-1953
 > actor: "Theatre of Romance"; "New World A-Coming"; "Jubilee"

 > 11-10-1889 - Claude Rains - London, England - d. 5-30-1967
 > actor: "Shakesperian Circle"; "This Is War!"; "Presenting Claude
 > Rains"

A touch of irony -- two of the stars of one of the best movies ever
made, "Casablanca", dying on the same date.  (Please, let's not start a
chain on "best movies" -- this is a radio digest!)

--Alan

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:04:23 -0400
From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  farm radio

A belated comment on Ted Kneebone's thread about farm
broadcasting. As one who has been there, done that, I echo the
observation of others that it ain't what it used to be. The
National Association of Farm Broadcasters used to have scores of
members. Now it's down to maybe 40 dues-paying members who are
actually involved in full-time agricultural reporting. Many, of
course, double - as they always have - as time salesmen.

A couple of content mainstays of the business began to fade in
the '90s. Farmers could get their market prices quickly via
satellite news and data services ... and the same for weather.
And access to those proliferated as the Internet took off.

Two big voices in Southwest agriculture, WBAP in Fort Worth and
WOAI in San Antonio, faded with deaths and retirements of farm
broadcasters. Most stations these days sort of weave the
agricultural stories in among their early-morning drive-time news
blocks, but it's nothing in depth, lest the urban audience become
bored. KGNC in Amarillo, a 10,000-watt station used to do farm
programing Monday-Saturday, with two hours M-F morning, an hour
at noon, and a block in the evening to report market closes, etc.
These days they have one hour in the morning.

I once produced the Texas Farm Bureau Roundup, a weekly 15-minute
agricultural news show carried on 120 or so stations statewide.
The last time I saw a count, TFB listed maybe 60 stations, and
they weren't carrying the whole program - instead, taking out the
individual two-minute stories and working them in.

The smaller stations that want to have some agricultural news
presence generally don't bother with a local broadcaster. It's
more affordable to be an affiliate of an ag network, trading time
for network spots in order to get programming that includes
agricultural weather forecasts, the markets, and other news from
Washington or of regional interest.

Some networks have been created from time to time that tried to
do ag news on a national scope, but it just doesn't work that way
- not well, anyway. Farmers want local/regional weather,
local/regional markets (as well as the national futures markets),
and they certainly want news that pertains to their crops. You'll
be hard-put to find a Texas farmer all that interested in almonds
and iceberg lettuce.

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:37:34 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Farm Reports

 I'm sorta glad to hear that the farm reports are still around. Being a city
kid, I rarely listened carefully, but I sure do remember Orion Samuelson on
WGN, and I'm happily surprised to see that he's still around. When I was
growing up in Chicago, all the major radio stations had the farm report early
in the ayem, but I left there in 1970, and for the past 15 years I've lived
in El Lay. The stations I generally listen to don't have such reports, but I
don't know if some of the all news stations or some of the others still do. I
know that there are still farms around the county, but I'm not sure about
whether they're large factory farms of if some of them are still smaller and
family owned. Of course with the growth abound here, any weekend that I might
drive out into the country, I'm likely to see another former farm being
replaced by new home construction. Even in the 15 years that I've been here,
I can remember many areas where orchards have been replaced by subdivisions.
In fact, in the San Fernando Valley, which is officially part of El Lay,
there's a corner of Cal. State U., Northridge that has been set aside to show
that the land used to be occupied by orange groves.

Thanx,

 B. Ray

   W9KEE

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:48:25 -0400
From: "Cynthia Heimsoth" <chibibarako@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Farm news in the Windy City
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WGN-AM Chicago runs THE MORNING SHOW (a wrap-up of ag/bus news) Saturdays at 5:
00 am, and THE NOON SHOW (a longer show including discussion, interviews and a
Paul Harvey segment) Saturdays at 12:00 noon (well, of course!) THE NOON SHOW d
oes remote broadcasts from various area county fairs and the Illinois and Wisco
nsin State Fairs.
They used to run a version of The Morning Show every morning before the morning
 commute show (now Spike O'Dell, was Bob Collins/Wally Phillips) but it's been
years since I've listened to WGN that early in the morning.
Back when WGN-TV was an independent, they ran US Farm Report (in fact, IIRC the
y originated it for this area of the country), but when WGN went WB that appare
ntly went belly-up. :-P
Cynthia "ChibiBarako"
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 23:03:07 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  5-31 births/deaths

May 31st births

05-31-1819 - Walt Whitman - Long Island, NY - d. 3-26-1892
writer: "Against the Storm"
05-31-1893 - Albert Mitchell - Elsberry, MO - d. 10-4-1954
host: "Answer Man"
05-31-1894 - Fred Allen - Cambridge, MA - d. 3-17-1956
comedian: "Linit Bath Club"; "Town Hall Tonight"; "Fred Allen Show"
05-31-1898 - Norman Vincent Peale - Bowersville, OH - d. 12-24-1993
preacher: "Art of Living"
05-31-1900 - Hugh Studebaker - Ridgeville, IN - d. 5-6-1978
actor: Ichabod 'Ichy' Mudd "Captain Midnight"; Silly Watson "Fibber
McGee and Molly"
05-31-1901 - Alfredo Antonini - Alessandra, Italy - d. 11-3-1983
conductor: "La Rosa Concerts"; "Treasure Hour of Song"
05-31-1901 - Joe Kelly - Crawfordsville, IN - d. 5-26-1959
emcee, quizmaster: "National Barn Dance"; "Quiz Kids"
05-31-1903 - Abo Hosiosky - Latvia - d. 2-xx-1976
NBC news in partnership with Alex Dreier
05-31-1903 - Blanche Stewart - Pennsylvania - d. 7-25-1952
actor: Brenda "Bob Hope Show"
05-31-1904 - Clifton Utley - Chicago, IL - d. 1-19-1978
newsman: (Father of Garrick) "University of Chicago Round Table";
"Comments by Clifton Utley"
05-31-1908 - Don Ameche - Kenosha, WI - d. 12-6-1993
actor, singer: John Bickerson "Bickersons"; Captain Hughes "Jack
Armstrong"
05-31-1908 - Jack Costello - Sauk Centre, MN - d. 9-xx-1983
announcer: "Stella Dallas"; "Words at War"
05-31-1918 - Bill Harrington- Indianapolis, IN
singer, songwriter: "Your Hit Parade"
05-31-1921 - Alida Valli - Pola, Istria, Italy - d. 4-22-2006
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Hedda Hopper's Hollywood"
05-31-1931 - Barbara Whiting - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-9-2004
actor: Judy Graves "Junior Miss"; Mildred "Meet Corliss Archer"
05-31-1938 - Johnny Paycheck - Greenfield, OH - d. 2-18-2003
country singer: "Country Sessions"

May 31st deaths

01-29-1917 - Lloyd Perryman - Ruth, AR - d. 5-31-1977
singer: (Sons of the Pioneers) "The Roy Rogers Show"
02-04-1908 - Manny Klein - NYC - d. 5-31-1994
trumpet: "The Ipana Troubadors"
04-01-1920 - Art Lund - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 5-31-1990
singer, actor: "Benny Goodman and His Orchestra"; "Land's Best
Bands"; "Jubilee"
04-13-1912  - Roy Winsor - Chicago, IL - d. 5-31-1987
director, writer: "Vic and Sade"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
04-20-1923 - Tito Puente - NYC - d. 5-31-2000
percussionist, bandleader: "Manhattan Melodies"
05-03-1898 - John Roy - d. 5-31-1985
actor: Roy Calvert "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
06-02-1908 - Ben Grauer - Staten Island, NY - d. 5-31-1977
announcer, emcee: "Walter Winchell"; "Information, Please"; "Boston
Symphony"
06-24-1895 - Jack Dempsey - Manassa, CO - d. 5-31-1983
boxing champion: "Ben Bernie Show"; "Kemtone Hour"; "Saturday Night
Bandwagon"
07-29-1900 - Owen Lattimore - Washington, DC - d. 5-31-1989
consultant: "Pacific Story"
08-05-1905 - Wilbur Evans - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-31-1987
singer:"Vicks Open House"; "Stars from the Blue"
10-10-1926 - Oscar Brown, Jr. - Chicago, IL - d. 5-31-2005
singer: "Destination Freedom"
10-20-1907 - Arlene Francis - Boston, MA - d. 5-31-2001
panelist, actor: "What's My Line"; Ann Scotland,"The Affairs of Ann
Scotland"
12-30-1899 - Michael Raffetto - Placerville, CA - d. 5-31-1990
actor: Paul Barbour "One Man's Family"; Jack Packard "I Love A
Mystery/Adventure"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Home state of Bernardine Flynn
Madison, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 23:03:16 -0400
From: "Arthur Funk" <art-funk@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Farm news

Hey, don't leave Florida off the list of agricultural states.  Ag is a
substantial part of our economy though I haven't heard a farm report in
years.  When I lived in Houston 20 some years ago they were still being
broadcast there on KTRH if memory serves.

Regards to all,
Art Funk

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 02:12:00 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:51:45 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Inner Sanctum Mystery

Mike Murphy commented:

I have to disagree with Chris Holm's praise for INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES as a
great OTR horror show. I've heard a lot of SANCTUM episodes. For my liking,
far too many of the episodes end with a logical explanation for the spooky
goings on: for instance, it was all the result of a police investigation of a
murder -- none of the ghosts was real. Personally, endings like that always
seem rushed to me and leave me feeling cheated.

Actually, INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY was a mystery program, not a horror program. 
  The series was supposed to be murder mysteries with supernatural elements 
mixed in to make them spooky, but if a vampire could be explained by a 
surgeon's needle and a bicycle pump, it was.  The program was not supposed 
to feature monsters, real vampires, or other such hobgoblins as the writers 
would have run dry of ideas after a short while (you can only do so many 
vampire stories before the vampire notion was used up).  Though it's 
supernatural elements can classify the series as a horror to many people.

Small note, the name of the program was INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY, NOT INNER 
SANCTUM MYSTERIES.  Anyone who listens to the opening of each program can 
tell the difference.  The series was advertised as INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY as 
well as the novels and promotional gimmicks.  It was never advertised as 
INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES that I have found.  Not that this is important, but 
no one has yet found a vintage advertisement calling the title of the show 
MYSTERIES and sent it to me to state otherwise.

Martin Grams Jr.
author of the INNER SANCTUM book

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