Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #49
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Date: 2/8/2002 8:21 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 49
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: CORONATION OF KING GEORGE, VI BR  [ Allen Lingley <af417@[removed]; ]
  Syndicated Programs                   [ Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed]; ]
  The Joy Boys                          [ BryantnOTR@[removed] ]
  OTR for Bryant                        [ "Scott D. Livingston" <sdl@[removed] ]
  Re: J-E-L-L-O                         [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Printable MP3 playlists               [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]
  Elsie Beebee                          [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
  Re: UK shows on US Radio              [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
  Getting Rid of GOO                    [ "Robert J. McKee" <mckee137@mindspr ]
  Radio Drama and NPR                   [ Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed] ]
  One Great Group Of People             [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
  Cincy con web-site                    [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Papa David & ChiChi                   [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
  First Bing Crosby broadcast--questio  [ Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed]; ]
  Re: Parley Baer on Bravo.             [ sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
  Bill Morrow                           [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  James Drury                           [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  What really happened to Glenn Miller  [ garcher@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Round The Horne                       [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
  Re: NY Directors                      [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  soap opera names                      [ Jack Gale <jackgale@[removed]; ]
  Re: OTR Radio on the Net              [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:25:52 -0500
From: Allen Lingley <af417@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: CORONATION OF KING GEORGE, VI BROADCAST

The Coronation was also broadcast by the CBC.  I have several volumes of
Presto 12" lacquers of WGN's coverage.  WGN (and possibly Mutual?)
carried the live CBC coverage.  It appears that most of the CBC
broadcast, like NBC, is a rebroadcast of the BBC via shortwave.

- Al

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:56:40 -0500
From: Harlan Zinck <buster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Syndicated Programs

Randy Watts <Roo61@[removed]; asks:

When pre-recorded programming was syndicated to stations on
transcription discs, was a disc used by more than one station, or was a
disc played by a single station and then destroyed?

>From the information I've come across by looking at and handling many
different disks, most syndication disks were shuttled from station to
station - often for years at a time. For a good example of this, take a
look at this label scan from the syndicated "Hometowners" series of the
early 1950's:

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This particular disk was used by at least seven different stations between
1952 and 1955, all of which noted this in writing on the disk label.
(There's no way of knowing how many stations used this disk and *didn't*
write on the label, of course.) Given the well-used condition of the disk,
its safe to assume that some of the stations later down the line ended up
with a pretty scratchy broadcast.

It seems for the most part, however, that the disks would not have been
bicycled between stations - at least, not legitimately - but rather sent
back to the syndicator, who would then send it out again and again.
Syndicators like Charles Michaelson frequently re-released shows that were
as much as fifteen years old to smaller stations who couldn't afford higher
priced programming.

Some syndicated series, like "The Smith's of Hollywood" with Harry Von
Zell, Brenda Marshall, and Arthur Treacher, ran on local stations literally
for years. The show was recorded, I believe, in 1948 and was still running
in some markets ten years later.

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This was not usually true of public service programs like "Guest Star,"
however. Since they were being distributed by a deep-pocketed government
agency - the Treasury Department, in this case - the disks were sent out by
the hundreds and stations were instructed not to send them back but,
instead, "surplus" them after use. This usually meant either a) throw away
the disk and keep the valuable brown paper sleeve, or b) file the disk away
in the library to use as filler, then throw it away two decades later.

Harlan

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]

PS: The First Generation Radio Archives has just released the February
issue of our newsletter, detailing many new shows we're now offering in our
CD libraries. Among the listings of new shows, taken direct from
transcriptions, are episodes of "Chandu the Magician," newly discovered
shows from Meredith Willson's summer replacement series for Burns & Allen,
high fidelity recordings of "The Railroad Hour," and some rare news
broadcasts from 1943-44.

Subscriptions are free and may be obtained by sending your name and address
in an e-mail to mailto:newsletter@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:24:35 -0500
From: BryantnOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Joy Boys

In the late 50's and early 60's, I remember tuning in to WRC Radio in
Washington, DC and enjoying the short (3 to 5 minute) skits of The Joy Boys
of Radio, Ed Walker and Willard Scott, formerly of WAMU Radio on The American
University Campus. "We are the Joy Boys of [removed] chase electrons to and
[removed]" the intro goes; one of the dramas was 'Marshall Matt Dillard and his
side-kick Chester Draws'  With that said, does anyone in Radio Land, perhaps
the DC area, know if these gems of humor have been preserved and/or
available?  I'd like to hear from anyone on or off the Digest.
Thanks, Nelson Bryant

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:24:45 -0500
From: "Scott D. Livingston" <sdl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR for Bryant

If Bryant wants to listen via his computer, here is a great place to go

[removed]

Let me know how you like it.

Fibber

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:53:05 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: J-E-L-L-O

There's a little known bit of information regarding the famous
"J-E-L-L-O" musical signature. It was created by Don Bestor, the original
musical director for the Jell-O Program, in 1934 - and continued to be
used on the program even after Bestor left the series the following year.

Several years later, Bestor filed a lawsuit claiming that he held the
copyright on the musical progression -- and that it was being used
without his permission. His action named General Foods, Young and
Rubicam, NBC, and Jack Benny as defendants. I've never seen anything
published to indicate what happened with this case, but I presume it was
settled out of court. Since the progression is still used in Jell-O TV
commercials, perhaps the Bestor heirs are still getting a cut from it?

Elizabeth

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:53:30 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Printable MP3 playlists

  A reader asks:
Does anyone know of a program I can use to print out a list of mp3 programs
on a cd disc?

   Yes, you can do this with the good old Winamp player. Right-click on the
bottom button with a question-mark icon. Then click on "misc," and then
"gnerate html playlist." I find these lists handy.

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:53:59 -0500
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Elsie Beebee

Of course, the name of the serial Frank is trying to remember that
included Poppa David (Solomon) and (Carol) Chichi (Conrad) is Life Can Be
Beautiful.  The wonderful Eastern European native actor Ralph Locke
played Poppa David while the role of his ward Chichi was portrayed by two
marvelous actresses, Alice Reinheart (1938-46) and Teri Keane (1946-54).
The show was nicknamed by those in the trade "Elsie Beebee" for its
acronym title (LCBB).

Writers Carl Bixby and Don Becker saw their mission as providing "a beam
of hope in a dark world."  Their series was a warm-hearted attempt to
offer eternal optimism to those suffering setbacks.  Without Papa David,
an elderly, compassionate Jewish intellect who operated the Slightly Read
Book Shop, the drama might never have succeeded in conveying the moral
platitudes to which Becker and Bixby were so strongly committed.  But
through Papa David--called "radio's wisest man" by author Robert
LaGuardia and "the kindliest of all daytime sages" by author Raymond
William Stedman--day after day for almost 16 years the pair validated
that "life is indeed precious" and should be treated with respect.  A
picture of Teri Keane and Ralph Locke plus biographical information and
lots of anecdotes about this show appears in The Great Radio Soap Operas
(McFarland, 1999).

Jim Cox

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:03:45 -0500
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: UK shows on US Radio

The first instances that I can recall, of a "public radio" station (to
use the American term) airing British shows was in the mid 70s. There
were broadcasts of THE GOON SHOW, I'M SORRY I'LL READ THAT AGAIN, MY
WORD, MY MUSIC and JUST A MINUTE.

But this was purely on a local basis and I haven't heard of it being done
in quite a few years. National Public Radio , as a network, I don't think
ever actually included the BBC in its schedule, except perhaps
HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO THE GALAXY or something like that. The same thing
with American public television, any BBC material is broadcast by
individual local stations who pay Auntie Beeb a fee for rights in this
country. Our national non-commercial TV network, Public Broadcasting
Service, only picks up the odd documentary or drama serial, which is then
insterted into PBS programs like MYSTERY, MASTERPIECE THEATRE or NATURE.

Eric Cooper

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:39:36 -0500
From: "Robert  J.  McKee" <mckee137@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Getting Rid of GOO

<snip>
One of my OTR CDs has gotten some very stubborn, sticky
adhesive "goo" on it, and I don't know the best way to clean
it without damaging the disc. Suggestions?
Thanks,
Bryan

Bryan I have to tell you that the product named "Goo Gone" which
"removes Grease, Stickers, Tar, Gum, Crayon, Tape" is what you
are looking for.  I do not own the company or even any stock but
have found it a lifesaver for a number of years.  Used to be the only
place I could find it was at Home Depot, but it is now more widely
available.  Try the Marts like K and Wal and ask for it by name.
I believe it will solve your problem if you are careful to use a soft
lint-free cloth to avoid scratching your CD.
Bob McKee

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:40:03 -0500
From: Henry Howard <hhoward@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Drama and NPR

Gray Ghost ask:
 I know reading somewhere that
your Commercial-free radio system, National Public Radio did air for years
such shows as Around the Horn, ...

NPR will cease carrying any radio drama in October of this year.
The great Public Radio Guru David Giovannoni, who admitted that he
didn't like radio drama before his studies, convinced enough stations
to not carry radio drama in their best interest, that NPR Playhouse
expenses are no longer justified.

There will be scattered stations that will carry some form of radio
drama on their own, but I doubt that they will have the clout to negotiate
for BBC performance rights.

It's a shame that this country has abandoned the format.  Even
Afghanistan has a daily radio drama program.
( [removed] )

   Henry Howard - moderator of  radiodrama@[removed]
                    [removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:50:13 -0500
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: One Great Group Of People

    You know, sometimes I sit here, sipping on a good cup of coffee, reading
the posts in the digest, and I begin to wonder about the wealth of talent,
information, and fine folks who write in or are a part of our wonderful
group. We collectively span a wide array, from veteran actors, scholars,
collectors, a forever youthful crowd who shares their recollections of radio
as they heard it just a moment ago, all the way down to the next generation
who has just discovered it.
    When I was a boy, my grandfather used to tell me stories about programs
that were on the radio. He grew up on a farm in a small town in Kentucky. He
said that he had rigged up a small radio in his room and would listen in as
long as the batteries held out. Anyway, he is the one that got me into
collecting shows, and every night, I lsten in until I fall asleep.
Shawn

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:28:21 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Cincy con web-site

Bob Burchett, who runs the Cincinnati OTR convention, recently sent me some
updated fliers with details about guest stars, and even a form to fill out
for paying admission, etc.

My little sister reposted the previous Cincinnati Old Time Radio web-site
page she did with the new page. I haven't checked it out, but anyone
interested can link on and if planning to attend, simply print the page out
(or enlarge it with their computer and then print out) and can pre-register
admission.

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:28:46 -0500
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Papa David & ChiChi

Does anyone know the name of a radio soap opera that had 2
characters named Poppa David and Chichi in the cast

"Life Can Be Beautiful"

Bill Knowlton

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:29:20 -0500
From: Rob Spencer <rspencer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: First Bing Crosby broadcast--question

A friend of mine recently found a copy of the musical numbers from Bing
Crosby's first broadcast (9-2-31) recorded on a 12" lacquer disc with a
Studio & Artists Recorders label.  According to Elizabeth McLeod's
excellent article, "Documenting Early Radio: A Review of Existing
Pre-1932 Radio Recordings" (online at
[removed]~[removed]), this was recorded on
78 RPM matrices by RCA Victor, so I assume what my friend has is a
professional dub made at least a few years after the broadcast. In any
event, the dub sounds quite well-done.

My question is this: does anybody know who conducted the orchestra heard
on that broadcast?  No credit is given on those parts of the program
that still exist on disc.

Rob Spencer

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:45:30 -0500
From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Parley Baer on Bravo.

I'm watching Bravo and [removed] is Parley Baer in a production of
"Last of the Dog Men" starringTom Berenger, Barbara Hersey and Kurtwood
Smith. It's the way he looked and sounded in 1995 when the film was
made. He has a cameo roll and makes the most of [removed] panache!!! In
California, the film started at 7:30 pm and he appeared just about 8:15.

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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:49:41 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bill Morrow

Folks;

   Received this request for information from The Nostalgia Pages; although
I've invited Mr. Morrow to join us, you might want to copy him directly on
any response you make to the Digest.

         Charlie

From: MorrowHtgf@[removed]

Bill Morrow, the writer of the Jack Benny radio show, was my cousin. Do you
know where I can read more about his life?

                                                   Bob Morrow

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:00:13 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: James Drury

Does any one have any air check of James Drury hosting a radio talk show in
the Los Angeles market in the mid 1960s?  He talked about that on play back
interview that will be on YUSA this Sunday.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:00:40 -0500
From: garcher@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: What really happened to Glenn Miller?

Correct me if you have heard differently but the mystery of what
happened to Glenn Miller who disappeared on an cross-Channel flight
from England for a performance engagement on the Contintnet at the end
of WW II has been "solved."

This comes from a Spanish language version (Madrid newspapaper) of a
wire service item that I read in Dec 2001 while in Madrid and have
not seen elsewhere. I did not clip the item so am translating from
memory.

(Summary) Glenn Miller and all those on the plane he was flying with
while crossing the English Channel were killed when a bomber
returning to England with a full load of bombs they could not drop
over Germany due to bad weather, dumped the bombs at sea on the return
flight to England. The bombs fell on Miller's plane, and the plane and
all aboard were lost in the Channel. The information was revealed by
the British Government some 55 years after the event.

Comment: It was/is customary for safety reasons that aircraft
bomb ordnance be dumped before a plane lands.

George Archer

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:00:48 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1924 - General John Joseph Carty of the Bell Telephone System spoke in
Chicago, IL. His speech was carried
across the nation on the first coast-to-coast radio hookup. An estimated
50-million people heard the speech.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:01:47 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Round The Horne

Dear Gray Ghost, with regard to what you said in the OTR Digest:

I know reading somewhere that your Commercial-free radio system, National
Public Radio did air for years such shows as Around the Horn, with a very
young Peter Sellers, Red Dwarf, Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy.

I may be wrong (I have been wrong before) but are you sure that Peter
Sellers was in Round The Horne?

I felt sure that the cast was Kenneth Williams, Kenneth Horne, Bill Pertwee,
Hugh Paddick, Betty Marsden, and Douglas Smith as the announcer.

This was and is one of the finest Britcom radio shows of all time. Listening
to them now I am constantly suprised at just how "dirty" they were and I
marvel at how they got away with it. Even more amazing is that when I was a
kid in England I used to listen to it with my dad !!!!

Happy days.

Love as always, David Rogers

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:05:13 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: NY Directors

In Jim Cox's post, he quotes Mary Jane Higby as mentioning Earnest Ricca as
being a nice guy, and accommodating to performers when it came to Conflicts.

A little piece of trivia. Earnie was well liked by his Director brethren
also. So much so, he went on to become the head of the NY Chapter of the DGA
(Director's Guild of America) well into the '60s and '70s. He was most
helpful to me when I became a fledgling TV Director.

Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:05:26 -0500
From: Jack Gale <jackgale@[removed];
To: OLD TIME RADIO <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: soap opera names

This is in answer to Frank at passage@[removed].
You wanted to know the name of the soap opera that had characters named
"Papa David" and "ChiChi". That program was on CBS, and it was called "Life
Can Be Beautiful".
Jack Gale
jackgale@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:19:33 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR Radio on the Net

 "vegan" responded to young Bryan as follows.

This is for Bryant the 12 yr old OTR fan who can't get reception of shows in
his area. If he has a computer at home he can access "Theater of the Mind"
hosted by Bill Sabis from the University at Gainesville Florida on Sunday
nights from 8-10 PM Eastern on WUFT [removed]

And I can offer something similar Bryan.

Bill Carol (BillCarolE@[removed]) does a OTR program out of upstate NY. Here's
the info he sent me.   Another "address: [removed]

"You are wondering about how to listen to my show. First, you must have a
program such as Real Audio, which reads in streaming audio.  What you can do is
go to my home page and select Click Here to listen to WVKR now. It then should
bring up a program which will decode the audio data to listenable audio.  If it
doesn't work, you can select the Real Audio symbol on my home page.  When you
get there, select the free one, and follow the instructions to download it and
install it. And, of course, you have to listen when I am on, which is 6 to 9 PM
EST tonight (Sunday)".

I Hope between Vegan and I, you get to listen often. I really enjoy the fact
that young people find OTR enjoyable.

Regards

Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"

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