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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2003 : Issue 435
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Radio Spirits boxed sets discounted [ howard blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
12-6 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
The Lone Ranger's Kin [ Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed]; ]
Velocipede [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
FINDING TRANSCRIPTIONS [ PURKASZ@[removed] ]
RE: Velocipede [ [removed]@[removed] ]
Velocipede [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Hi-Yo Silver -- Take It Away [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Certain 16" discs [ "Frank Absher" <fabsher@[removed] ]
Old Time Radio Standards of Decenecy [ "mike kerezman" <philipmarlowe@cfai ]
Radio "transcriptions": another sour [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Velocipede [ "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@ezlin ]
Re: the differences in mp3 discs [ RickEditor@[removed] ]
Paul Temple prepares for a trip [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
RE: Velocipede [ "rheba" <rheba@[removed]; ]
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:06 -0500
From: howard blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Spirits boxed sets discounted
I have the following boxed sets --all-new in original wrappers--(CDs
and/or tapes) from Radio Spirits which I can offer at discounted prices.
Please contact me off-line if you're interested for prices etc.:
a. The Shadow
b. Radio's Greatest Sitcoms
c. Bob Hope
d. Suspense
e. Hollywood Stars
f. Gunsmoke
g. Kings of Comedy
h. Too Hot for Radio
Howard Blue
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:14 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 12-6 births/deaths
December 6th births
12-06-1887 - Lynn Fontanne - Waterford, Essex, England
(Lived in Genesse Depot, WI; where my father met my mother) d. 7-30-1983
actress: "Theatre Guild on the Air"; "Biography In Sound"
12-06-1896 - Ira Gershwin - NYC - d. 8-17-1983
songwriter: "Lady in the Dark"; "Jolson Story"; "Barkleys of Broadway"
12-06-1904 - Elissa Landi - Venice, Italy - d. 10-21-1948
actress: "I"m An American"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-06-1906 - Agnes Moorehead - Clinton, MA - d. 4-30-1974
actress: Margo Lane "The Shadow"; Marilly "Mayor of the Town"
12-06-1909 - Lyn Murray - London, England - d. 5-20-1989
conductor: "Chesterfield Presents"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Ford Theatre"
12-06-1924 - Wally Cox - Detroit, MI - d. 2-15-1973
comedian: "[removed] Steel Hour"; "Wally Cox Show"
December 6th deaths
02-02-1893 - Len Doyle - Toledo, OH - d. 12-6-1959
actor: Len Harrington "Mr, Distric Attorney"
05-23-1912 - John Payne - Roanoke, VA - d. 12-6-1989
actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-31-1908 - Don Ameche - Kenosha, WI - d. 12-6-1993
actor, singer: John Bickerson "Bickersons"; Captain Hughes "Jack Armstrong"
11-20-1920 - Gene Tierney - Brooklyn, NY - d. 12-6-1991
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Great Scenes from Great Plays"; "[removed] Steel
Hour"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:14:19 -0500
From: Allen Wilcox <aawjca@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Lone Ranger's Kin
In A former news letter it was stated
Dan Reid, I'm
told, was the father of Britt Reid
(aka The Green Hornet) which would make John Reid
(aka The Lone Ranger) his uncle.
Well, actually Captain Dan Reid died while chasing the
Butch Cavendish gang, into Bryan's Gap, along with
seven others. All perished except for Dan's younger
brother ( who was not giving a name ). Before the
ambush Captain Reid made a covenant with his younger
brother that he should survive he would take care of
the mine and his young son Dan Reid JR. It is he who
is the father of The Green Hornet (Brit Reid)
Allen
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:13:55 -0500
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Velocipede
According to Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary,
a velocipede is 'a lightweight wheeled vehicle propelled
by the rider'. As I recall it was built similar to a tricycle,
except that it had only two wheels: one large one in front
and a much smaller one in back. The rider would climb
onto the seat and peddle it like a tricycle. I saw one
once and it looked like it required a lot of concentration
and a good sense of balance to ride one.
You're right about one thing though, it is an antiquated
term. You'd probably be hard pressed to find one these
days except in a museum somewhere.
As always,
Kenneth Clarke
Kenneth Clarke
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:15:22 -0500
From: PURKASZ@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: FINDING TRANSCRIPTIONS
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Enjoyed that letter about searching and maybe even finding what ever
might be left of the world of transcriptions.
Last summer I was at an estate sale in Bedford, New York and came across
a small plastic bag containing two eight inch acetates recorded at
Audio-Scriptions. 1619 Broadway, New York, New York. There was even a phone
number,
CIrcle 7-7690.
The label was typed and under name it has, "Harry W. Fowler."
Under title it says, "American Eagle Club"
Recorded at WOR, 6/20/42.
I would appreciate anything anyone can tell me about these discs.
They both say "Part 1" so it must be they are copies. I have no
turntable on which to play them sadly so I know nothing of the content.
What can it be?
Michael C. Gwynne
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:59:20 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Velocipede
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The three-wheeled vehicle that most of us knew, as kids, as a "tricycle,"
was actually a velocipede. A real tricycle has a chain that drives the rear
wheels from the pedals. A velocipede is has the pedals mounted directly to
the front wheel, and that is what was used by most kids.
[removed] Druian
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:00:03 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Velocipede
Corganoid asks,
[removed]'ll swallow my pride and ask it. What the heck is a
velocipede?
An older word for tricycle. There was a Sky King Velocipede back in the
1930s, which recently has been replicated. It had nothing to do with the
OTR/OTV shows, but when doing auction searches for Sky King, it does pop
up.
"Veloci" = speedy, "pede" = foot/feet.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:01:41 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hi-Yo Silver -- Take It Away
Kenneth Clarke, speaking of The Lone Ranger, notes,
the way I heard it was that Dan Reid and his brother John were both
Texas Rangers. While they and two more Rangers were travelling one day,
they were ambushed and everyone was killed except for John who was just
wounded.
A party of rangers, headed by Captain Dan Reid and his brother (whose
first name was not mentioned), was ambushed inn Bryant's Gap by Butch
Cavendish and his "Hole in the Wall" gang. All rangers were apparently
slain, but the brother was just severely wounded.
An Indian named Tonto found John Reid and nursed him back to health,
subsequently becoming his partner. John vowed to protect the down
trodden and continue to seek justice wherever he went.
Tonto, who was a boyhood friend of [name not specified] Reid came across
the massacre and recognized his old friend and nursed him back to health,
leaving graves for all the slain, plus another to mark Reid's grave, as a
dummy so that the killers would believe there were no survivors.
I'm not sure, but have been told that John Reid got the silver for his
trademark bullets from a silver mine he and his brother owned. (Someone
also said he melted the silver badges from his fellow Rangers and made
bullets from them.) Which is the accepted
The first tale. The badges of the Texas Rangers were made of tin; had
they been pure silver, he'd have run out of bullets pretty quickly.
However, he fashioned his mask out of his brother's black vest.
Dan Reid, I'm told, was the father of Britt Reid (aka The Green Hornet)
which would make John Reid (aka The Lone Ranger) his uncle.
Captain Dan Reid was the father of Dan Reid, Jr., who was the Lone
Ranger's nephew. Captain Reid's wife and baby were traveling out West to
join the Captain, but they were caught in an Indian raid, and the
youngster was the only one to survive. He was found and brought up. The
Lone Ranger found out who he was, and helped bring him up. Dan was sent
East to attend good private schools (funded by the silver mine), and in
the summer, he would ride with the Lone Ranger and Tonto on Silver's son,
Victor.
Why did Britt Reid choose "The Green Hornet" as his secret identity?
Because he wanted to "sting" criminals, and the green hornets were the
meanest.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:01:56 -0500
From: "Frank Absher" <fabsher@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Certain 16" discs
After reading Harlan's posting, I decided to get into the fray here. My
interest is not so much in the discs themselves. I'm trying to find and
preserve anything from St. Louis radio, so if anyone has discs with St.
Louis radio broadcasts, I'd like to "talk" (via email) about getting a dub
for the St. Louis Media Archives (non-profit). Thanks in advance.
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:02:54 -0500
From: "mike kerezman" <philipmarlowe@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Old Time Radio Standards of Decenecy
Sometime back Michael B. (Sp) referred to the FCC recent ruling allowing
broadcasters to in the future to encrypt signals to defeat recording off the
[removed] also mentioned having to alter DVD players to player other region
coded DVD discs. I know there are plentiful freeware programs available on
the internet that can readily remove region coding and allow you to make
backups of the original that will play on your home player without altering
your machine. Hollywood groups have tried pressure websites from providing
links to these programs. Any encyption technology is followed neck and neck
with counter encryption technology.
What concerns me more however is a story I read in a local newspaper THE ADA
EVENING NEWS [removed].
[removed]
It relates how the FCC recently ruled on obscenity on public airwaves.
According to the story the.
"The FCC has approved the use of the 'F' word for use on any TV show or
radio program, any time, day or night. The FCC said the word can be used
whenever desired except in sexual situations."
This is one reason why I listen to Old Time Radio. Its is realatively clean
entertainment. This is a far cry from the those days when Arch Obler's
infamous Adam and Eve Skit where the FCC threatened staion's licenses
(According to John Dunning's ON THE AIR, P. 229-230, 609). I'm really more
concerned about the ramifications of this ruling on radio. Will I in the
future we have to listen obscenity laced newscasts on my local AM radio at
the top of the hour? I hope I am not being an alarmist.
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Oklahoma
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:53:21 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Radio "transcriptions": another [removed]
Harlan has given an excellent account of the traditional media used in
recording "old time radio" programs. If you or your family are at rummage
sales (etc.) looking for OTR originals, another medium that has been used
since at least the late 40s-early 50s is tape.
One kind of broadcasting that commonly used tape reels was "educational
radio." Teachers were invited by many educational radio stations to "Tune
in on Thursday for a repeat of this program." If this time was not good for
the teacher, and she wanted her class to listen to "Old tales and new"
(etc.), she could send in blank reels. The station would dub copies of
whatever programs she/he wanted and mail them back. Some of these Minnesota
School of the Air broadcasts carried the introductory note: "By tape
[removed]"
I have many of these "schools of the air" broadcasts in my collection.
Ted Kneebone/1528 S. Grant [removed], SD 57401/605-226-3344
OTR: [removed]
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:53:34 -0500
From: "Donald & Kathleen Dean" <dxk@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Velocipede
I was listening to part one of The Cinnamon Bear the other day came upon a
word that is entirely new to me. Jimmy tells Judy that she's "too old for
a
velocipede(sp?)" [removed]'ll swallow my pride and ask it. What the heck
is
a velocipede?
>From Webster's New dictionary. Velocipede is a vehicle propelled by the feet
of the rider. (Thus a bicycle, tricycle, etc.)
Don Dean N8IOJ
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:04:42 -0500
From: RickEditor@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: the differences in mp3 discs
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Hello,
My love for old time radio has been made possible by the advent of mp3. But
the more I purchase, the confuseder I get!
Mainly, I'm confused about the coding differences among copies. Could some
helpme answer these questions.
1) In coding that comes up on my mp3 player -- such as 33kps/32khz -- what
does each number mean? I know that the higher the numbers, the better the CD
usually sounds, and that it probably has something to do with "sample rate,"
but
I don't know the details.
2) Why do sellers use the lower numbers when the larger numbers always sound
better? Even if the answer is that they can squeeze more onto a disc that way,
it seems they opt for lower even when there are only a few hours of
programming on a CD.
3) Would it COST a seller more to increase the quality? I'd much rather pay a
few more dollars for an extra disc at double the quality, Sometimes that
fisrt number goes BELOW 18, and the sound is terrible! Is another possible
reason
that it takes more time to make a disc with the highwe numbers? Again, I'd
rather pay more for better quality. Sellers RARELY tell you the "numbers" on a
disc. On "sampler" discs from sellers, the numbers can range from very low to
very high on the sampler disc. I just don't understand why sellers choose the
lower rate and end up with non-repeat customers.
UNRELATED QUESTION: How do I find out who the great organist is in "Diary of
Fate"?
Thanks so much for helping!
rick in philadelphia
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:56:34 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Paul Temple prepares for a trip
"Regular poster David Rogers" here again. Just a side note about Paul
temple. I found an interesting log at:
[removed]
and was broken hearted to see that so many of the shows are "presumed lost."
You would expect more from the BBC woudn't you. I remember Galton and
Simpson saying that the BBC destroyed several early copies of "Steptoe and
Son" and yet they have kept every episode of the Australian soap opera
"Neighbours." Dear me, if I still lived in England and paid my licence fee
I would write and complain.
Thanks to the folks who replied. I have put the database on my favorites,
so hopefully I can find more stuff myself.
This is just a side point for lovers of British murders. I bought the DVD
box set of Strong Poison, Have His Carcass and Gaudy Night and have been
watching them all while doing my end of term student marking. I know that
does not sound good, but you have to relieve the boredom somehow. I have
really enjoyed watching them again and I was wondering which OTR detectives
(not just British ones) people would consider as the sedate detectives? I
really don't like the bloody, serial killer, cold, hard stuff. I like
mysteries that you could enjoy with your family. I wonder if murder really
is a family affair. Anyway, I wonder who folks would put in this category?
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:58:07 -0500
From: "rheba" <rheba@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: Velocipede
From: corganoid@[removed]
I was listening to part one of The Cinnamon Bear the other day came upon a
word that is entirely new to me. Jimmy tells
Judy that she's "too old for a velocipede(sp?)" [removed]'ll swallow my
pride and ask it. What the heck is a velocipede?
According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English language a
velocipede is: NOUN: 1. A tricycle. 2a. Any of several early bicycles
having pedals attached to the front wheel. b. An early bicycle propelled by
pushing the feet along the ground while straddling the vehicle.
The funny thing about that is, a couple of day's after I heard the word (and
was stumped by it) they showed a velocipede on the Martha Stewart Living
program. Very cool. :)
Rheba
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