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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 280
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
Two versions of Perikoff Policy [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
Dating a show [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
Lucky Strike Green [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
Re: XM Radio "Radio Classics" [ "Will" <redsox45@[removed]; ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Wartime changes [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
9-14 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
The Golden Age of Radio with Dick Be [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed]; ]
Seeing and hearing OTR [ doug <doug@[removed]; ]
Date of show -- found! [ "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@bas ]
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:45:26 -0400
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Dorothy Kilgallen's Radio Show
A few digests ago, Brian Bedsworth wondered whether Dorothy Kilgallen had
her own radio show as many columnists did in the heady days of the forties.
Yes she did. I have a fifteen segment of "The Voice of Broadway" dated
January 18, 1945. Kilgallen features gossip reported on in her column for
the now defunct New York Journal American. The guest on this particular
show was Bob Hope, who was in New York to see a performance of Frank Fay.
The sponsor of the program was Bien Jolie Corsets. I believe it originated
at WOR.
Dennis Crow
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:46:14 -0400
From: wilditralian@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Two versions of Perikoff Policy
09-13-05
Matthew Bullis wrote on September 11th:
Hello, just wondering if anyone can tell the difference or why there are two
versions of the Perikoff Policy from Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar? They're the
first dated shows I have, and they're definitely different, due to the voice
inflections and some different wording. Can anyone clear up the confusion,
and possibly the date discrepancy? Thanks a lot.
I don't have a definite answer, but, if both of them are dated the same,
I would suspect that they are east-coast and west-coast broadcasts.
Matthew, you may not be aware of this, but very often the studio would do
one enactment and broadcast for the east coast and people in Central
Time, and then go out and have some dinner and come back and do it all
over again for the mountain and Pacific Time people with either one or
two hours from the end of one to the beginning of the other.
Regards,
Jim
--
James H. Arva
201 Short St.; Harrisburg, PA 17109; (717) 545-5709
E-MAIL: wilditralian@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:24:19 -0400
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Dating a show
OK, this is a stretch. I have a recording of a Kraft Music Hall show for
which I would like the exact date. I have some clues gleaned from listening
to the show.
The star, of course, was Bing Crosby. It also included Mary Martin, Victor
Borge and Sabu.
I know it was at or near springtime as they were talking about signs of
spring.
But the biggest clue involves Sabu. They mentioned that his latest movie,
"Jungle Book," had just opened the same day as the broadcast!!
That puts the show in 1942. I have tried many different searches to find
the premier date for that movie, but no luck. Does anyone know, or know
where to find out?
Ted
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:30:19 -0400
From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lucky Strike Green
MICHAEL BIEL wrote:
Pardon my use of sarcasm here, but Bill H has proved himself to be to be
very gullible to the lies told by cigarette manufacturers when he repeated
their propaganda
You have such a way of making a person feel really good.
The truth was that chromium was not in short supply
Chromium was used to harden steel. The US did not have a large resource
of chromium, in fact the supply today is, for all practical purposes,
exhusted. It was on the restricted materials list along with aluminum,
cadmium, nickel, tin, zinc, and copper during [removed] As far as how this
affected LS I really don't know, but like you say it was probably more
advertising hype than anything else.
Bill H.
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:32:26 -0400
From: "Will" <redsox45@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: XM Radio "Radio Classics"
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In #279 Ken Piletic's post about XM's "Radio Classics" peaked my interest,
as did Charlie's blog postings on 10/1/04 and 8/12 of this year. I'm one of
the biggest XM fans out there. I've had the service for two years and plan
on renewing my subscription. I'm very satisfied with the 10-15 regular
channels I listen to on XM and the 5-10 semi regulars.
But Radio Classics is not, nor will it ever be, one of those. Were it not
for the PGA Golf Channel being such a disaster, I would have to say it's the
worst English language channel on XM. The programming is weak, the play list
is shallow, to unpredictable, and sounds worse than most of my mp3
collection.
The programming decisions at Radio Classics just don't make sense. Why even
have a channel if you're only going to run a maximum of two days a week of
"original" programming. There's certainly enough OTR out there to do a 12
hour a day programming block and a 12 hour repeat. Moreover, you don't ask
your listeners to go online, download a new schedule each week, and hope
that they tune in. You put your major shows - your shows with established
followings like FM&M, Johnny Dollar, Whistler, Dragnet, Benny, Lone Ranger,
etc in recognizable, consistent programming slots that people will KNOW. You
shuffle that around once or twice a year, not every week. And you advertise
it. Network TV doesn't switch their programming schedule every week. Nor
does any standard, sensible radio station on XM, Sirius or terrestrial
radio. Nor do you run a two day set of Christmas shows the entire final week
of July. (MAYBE one day for Christmas in July, but not a whole week.)
On top of all of that, their shallow play list - not characteristic of any
of the dozen or so music channels I listen to - is extremely out of the norm
for XM. If you hear OTR for the first time on XM, and you decide that you
like it, even a little, you're going to poke around and find out there's a
LOT of OTR out there you could collect and listen to as you please. Several
times over what XM will play.
For both of the above reasons, I'm rather cynical whether XM is actually
introducing people to OTR. People want to hear "their shows" at set times,
and they don't want to hear repeats of a meager play list throughout the
week. I guess, if you don't know any better, for a couple of weeks, it's
fine, but it doesn't take long before reality sets in especially if you do
really like OTR and you want to start collecting it.
There used to be some decent Internet OTR radio stations on Live 365, if
amateurs can develop and program steady, constant, reasonable sounding
material, a company like XM and Radio Spirits should be able to as well.
Will Tuell
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:12:00 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:51:41 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wartime changes
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:58:08 -0400
From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
Things could have been worse: during the war, the Australian
government simply banned the importing of American comics and
popular magazines as a non-essential luxury. This was good news
for local comic-strip artists but caused a lot of heartburn amongst
science fiction fans who were cut off from their monthly fix of
"Astounding Stories" etc.
Which brings to mind another story, somewhat a propos of Lucky Strike Green going to war
and never coming back.
The magazine Astounding Science Fiction expanded in January 1942 from standard pulp
size to 7 x 10" "bedsheet" size. In the April 1943 issue, the editor announced that the
magazine would return to its former size because of war-caused shortages of essential
metals used in type and the government's request for magazine publishers to reduce their
paper use. Starting with the October issue, the magazine went to digest size, and again, the
reason given was the war.
But "Astounding" remained digest size after the war, until (having meanwhile changed its
name to "Analog" in 1960) March 1963, when it again experimented with a larger 8 1/2 x 11"
size. In April 1966, it returned to digest size, which it has been ever since.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:20:43 -0400
From: Ron Sayles
<bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 9-14 births/deaths
September 14th births
09-14-1899 - Hal B. Wallis - Chicago, IL - d. 10-5-1986
film producer: "Tex and Jinx Show"; "Academy Award Program"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
09-14-1907 - Cecil Brown - New Brighton, PA - d. 10-25-1987
newscaster: "CBS European News"; "Sizing Up the News"
09-14-1908 - Bernard Green - New York City, NY - d. 8-8-1975
orchestra leader: "The Clock"
09-14-1910 - Jack Hawkins - London, England - d. 7-18-1973
actor: "[removed] Steel Hour"
09-14-1916 - Jerry Doggett - d. 7-7-1997
baseball announcer: "The LIberty Broadcasting System"
09-14-1918 - Mike Stokey - Shreveport, LA - d. 9-7-2003
announcer: "One Night Stand"
09-14-1925 - Bill Christy - Seattle, WA - d. 2-25-1946
actor: Franklin Dexter "Meet Corliss Archer"
September 14th deaths
01-01-1911 - Hank Greenberg - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1994
baseball great: "Play Ball"; "We the People"; "Philco Radio Time"
01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
02-17-1914 - Wayne Morris - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-14-1959
actor: "Radio Reader's Digest"; "NBC university Theatre of the Air"; "Lux
Radio Theatre"
03-22-1893 - Tito Vuolo - Italy - d. 9-14-1962
actor: Uncle Carlo "The Goldbergs"
06-08-1921 - Gordon McLendon - Paris, TX - d. 9-14-1986
Founder of the Liberty Radio Network
06-24-1910 - Cootie Williams - Mobile, AL - d. 9-14-1985
jazz trumpet player: "Jubilee"
09-02-1904 - Vera Vague (Barbara Jo Allen) - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1974
comedienne: "Vera Vague Show"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
10-03-1899 - Gertrude Berg - New York City, NY - d. 9-14-1966
actress: Molly Goldberg, "Goldbergs"
10-06-1906 - Janet Gaynor - Philadelphia, PA, - d. 9-14-1984
hostess, actress: "Hollywood Showcase: Stars Over Hollywood"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
11-12-1929 - Grace Kelly - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-14-1982
actress: "Family Theatre"; "Bob Hope Show"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:55:05 -0400
From: "Bob Scherago"
<rscherago@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio"
<[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Golden Age of Radio with Dick Bertel and
Ed Corcoran
The latest "Golden Age of Radio" programs with
Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran, can be heard at
[removed]
This week we present three complete shows in MP3
format for your listening pleasure or for downloading.
We present new shows every week or so.
Program 65 - August, 1975 - Don MacLaughlin
Don MacLaughlin played the part of David Harding on
the famous radio drama "Counterspy." Counterspy was
an espionage drama radio series that aired on ABC and
Mutual from May 18, 1942 to November 29, 1957.
Don MacLaughlin originated the role of lawyer Chris
Hughes on As the World Turns in 1956, and played the
role until his death in 1986.
Program 66 - September, 1975 - Joseph Julian
Joseph Julian entered radio in the early 1930s and spent
three decades in the business, performing in over 20,000
shows. While not a star of the absolute first rank, he had
top roles in scores of radio shows and, along the way, also
served as a sound-effects man, announcer, newscaster,
disk jockey, writer, and foreign correspondent. His
descriptions and anecdotes about all of the positions can
be found in his book, "This Was Radio."
Program 67 - October, 1975 - Frances Chaney
Frances Chaney, the radio actress who played the part of
Burma on "Terry and the Pirates" is interviewed by Dick
and Ed. The show, based on the Milton Caniff comic strip
included the characters Terry Lee, Pat Ryan, Flip Corkin,
Hotshot Charlie, Connie the coolie, Burma, (Ms. Chaney)
Elita, and the Dragon Lady.
She had parlayed her radio work into a few screen parts
before the blacklist started costing her jobs, but she was
able to win parts in off-Broadway and Broadway plays,
including understudying for Maureen Stapleton, Kim
Stanley and Claudette Colbert. By the time the blacklist's
power faded, Ms. Chaney was entrenched as a stage
actress.
Frances Chaney was the wife of Ring Lardner who was also
blacklisted in the McCarthy era.
In the 1970's Dick Bertel created the program for WTIC in
Hartford, CT. The idea came to Dick after he interviewed radio
collector-historian Ed Corcoran a few times on his radio and
TV shows. "The Golden Age of Radio was first broadcast in
April, 1970; Ed was Dick's co-host.
For the next seven years the program featured interviews with
actors, writers, producers, engineers and musicians from radio's
early days. Each show featured excerpts from Ed's collection.
"WTIC's Golden Age of Radio" can also be heard Saturday nights
on Walden Hughes's program on Radio Yesteryear.
Bob Scherago
Webmaster
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:50:28 -0400
From: doug
<doug@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: Seeing and hearing OTR
Rick Keating pointed out:
... when I listen to just about any radio show, I hear the _characters_
talking to one another, and I "see" the events being described. I don't hear
someone obviously _reading_ a script, and I don't "see" actors standing
around microphones.
Same here, but for some reason OTR does this better for me than NTR. With
older shows I see and hear the characters in their setting, but when I listen
to a modern radio drama I see and hear actors in a studio. I don't know why
that is but it's true. Maybe it's the recording technology, the better
filtering out of breathing sounds and so forth, or just the different "room
tone" of a modern studio. But aside from all that I really think OTR actors
just gave better performances. One particular pet peeve of mine with modern
radio drama is inept portrayals of elderly characters by young actors -- the
standard quavery old-woman voice or country-style granddad voice, as if we
can't tell it's a 28-year-old. Anyway, OTR takes me places where NTR just
can't.
Doug Leary
Seattle
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:24:52 -0400
From: "RadioAZ@[removed]" <radioAZ@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Date of show -- found!
Never mind my previous post. Further hints in the recording enabled me to
pin down the date of that Kraft Music Hall show to Thursday, April 16, 1942.
Ted
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