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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 93
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Brace Beemer as the Lone Ranger [ Rob Chatlin <rchatlin@[removed] ]
Re: Shipping Glass Discs [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
There They Go Again [ nikurashi@[removed] ]
Astounded at the Lone Ranger [ nikurashi@[removed] ]
Time Machine. [ Gary McDole <gmcdole@[removed]; ]
Lone Ranger Episodes [ Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed] ]
Shatner & Link to CBC radio archives [ "Irene Heinstein" <[removed] ]
Time Machine [ Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@ ]
Re: Time Machine & new Lone Ranger [ "Arthur Lortie" <alortie@[removed]; ]
Shipping Glass Disks [ "Harlan Zinck" <preservation@radioa ]
The Time Machine and X Minus One [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
Be careful about those great deals o [ [removed]@[removed] ]
THE LONE RANGER: SECRET AGENT [ Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@doityours ]
Orson Welles [ Mark Reesor <mrees@[removed]; ]
Re: Who was it? [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Lone Ranger book [ "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed] ]
Hal Stone [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
link to NBC chimes article [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:45:04 -0500
From: Rob Chatlin <rchatlin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Brace Beemer as the Lone Ranger
The more I listen to different OTR shows,
the more impressed I become with the skills and talents
of Brace Beemer as the Lone Ranger.
He could go from a harsh, commanding tone talking to a villian,
and then become as compassionate and caring as any great actor
when talking to children. Each new episode I hear further defines his
incredible range. He speaks as if the weight of the situation really
did rest on his shoulders, and he cared greatly about each situation he
found himself in.
So much of the success of The Lone Ranger is due to his performance,
aided by a great supporting cast and sound effects team.
He's certainly one voice that deserves to be in the Broadcasting hall of
fame.
rob
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:45:55 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Shipping Glass Discs
Ed Carr wrote:
this is open to anyone who has handled glass discs, i need an idea
to pkg and ship glass based discs and to see that they arrive
safely across country, any input would be welcome, i have never
shipped glass before and even though i think i know a way, i would
prefer someone with experience
I've had good luck sandwiching glass between "scrap" aluminum-based discs
-- whenever I have an aluminum disc that's too decomposed to use for
anything else, I toss it aside for packing purposes. Put the glass disc
between two aluminum discs, and then sandwich these between two stiff
pieces of cardboard. Tape the resulting sandwich into a rigid bundle, and
wrap it in a layer of newspaper. Bubble-wrap this, and fit it into a box.
Fit this box into a larger box, padded with appropriate filler, and mark
FRAGILE -- GLASS -- DO NOT DROP on every available surface of the outer
box. Make sure there is no way the inner bundle can move around. If you
want to be really conservative, use four aluminum discs for every glass
disc -- two on one side, two on the other.
This principle works with quantities of glass discs as well as single
ones -- the idea is to ensure that the discs are kept as rigid as
possible. If you don't have any scrap aluminum discs lying around, you
can use vinyl pressings -- this is a good use for all those Harry Horlick
Thesaurus and Al Sack Standard Program Library discs that tend to
accumulate everywhere. If using scrap vinyl, you might want to use
thicker layers -- the point, again, being to ensure maximum rigidity of
the bundle.
Elizabeth
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:46:20 -0500
From: nikurashi@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: There They Go Again
All that is needed to disprove the remark that there were never any decoder
rings offered on OTR is for someone who has such a ring to step forward. (It
only takes one.) Surely, there is someone here who can debunk the debunker.
However, If no one does, I'll still continue to believe that such things
really existed. Unfortunately, I never sent away for many things, so I only
have my memories to rely on. Please, someone, speak up.
Warren Jones
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:35:53 -0500
From: nikurashi@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Astounded at the Lone Ranger
The gentleman who was astounded that anyone could have liked the Lone Ranger
so much, was not as astounded as I was to see such a remark. What
competition did the Masked Man have? Red Ryder? The Cisco Kid? Bobbie Benson
and his B-Bar B Riders? Straight Arrow? Gene Autrey? Roy Rogers (he was
there, wasn't he?) Tom Mix? Gun Smoke? Well, yes, but I thought we were
talking about kid's programs. In any event, the Lone Ranger stood alone. It
had the introduction, the music, the voice, and stories that satisfied me.
Enough, to make it a classic, enough to make it an immortal series, one that
will be remembered for a long, long time.
Warren Jones
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:36:22 -0500
From: Gary McDole <gmcdole@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Time Machine.
Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed]; wrote:
Arthur Lortie" asks:
Can anyone direct me to [or send me] an mp3 of the 1940's radio episode
that
adapted Wells' Time Machine?
If there is a 1940s version of The Time machine, I'd be interested in
knowing about it too. I'm only aware of a perfectly execrable X Minus
One version from the 1950s that just about made me hurl my cookies.
There's an "Escape" episode, broadcast 10/27/50 (which, if you remember the
"when does the millennium start" debates at the end of the last century,
could be argued to be the last year of the 1940's decade). Listening to it
didn't induce nausea in me, so you may want to check it out and
compare. Arthur now has the mp3.
Gary in Berkeley
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:36:31 -0500
From: Glenn Alexander <glenn31313@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lone Ranger Episodes
Hi, does anyone know just how many episodes were
produced for radio, and of that, how many have been
preserved? Thanks, Glenn. It was a great show.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:37:11 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Shatner & Link to CBC radio archives
Subject: Re: William Shatner on radio
Glenn Alexander asked
>Does anyone out there know which radio shows he [Shatner] did appear
on?
William Shatner appeared on at least two of the thirteen syndicated
revival shows of "Arch Oboler's Plays" in 1964.
Spence replied:
I don't want to be seen as an apologist for Shatner, because I sure am not
a
fan of his on TV or on the Priceline commercials. But I just want to inject
this comment. Back in the Fifties or Sixties I saw Shatner in Baltimore
live
on stage in "The World of Susie Wong.". He handled the part very well, I
thought, and that was back when I didn't even know who he was.
Spence>
It's easy to poke fun at Shatner but actually I like him. He also handles
all the jokes about his changing weight on Star Trek, his poor decision to
make records, etc. very well. I am now and have always been a Trekker so
my bias is pretty clear. I actually first saw him in the film 'The
Brothers Karamazov' in which he performed to good reviews. He actually
started as a Shakespearian actor in Canada and was a best actor award winner
one year.
He also appeared in Norman Corwin radio scripts recreated in the 90's with
lots of big-name talent.
He did, as someone once speculated, perform on radio in Canada on CBC,
starting at age 10 and continuing into adult years.
Some of you might be interested in a website which describes and sells CBC
radio dramas which includes The Stage Series, original radio dramas (Shatner
appeared as well as other future prominent Canadian actors), Mystery
Theatre, Brick Mallery, Private Investigator and more.
The link is:
[removed]
~Irene
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:58:46 -0500
From: Christopher Lowell White <cncwhite@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Time Machine
Someone recently possted an article wanting to know about an otr broadcast
of the "time machine". The only on I know of is an "escape" dramatization
of this story which I think was aired around 1948.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:13:27 -0500
From: "Arthur Lortie" <alortie@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Time Machine & new Lone Ranger
>From Alan/Linda Bell:
If there is a 1940s version of The Time machine, I'd be interested in
knowing about it too. I'm only aware of a perfectly execrable X Minus
One version from the 1950s that just about made me hurl my cookies.
I was just sent an mp3 of the adaptation that ran on Escape 10/27/1950 with
John Dehner as the Time Traveler [named Dudley]. Is there another one on
X-Minus_one?
It seems I may have made an era in decades / medium. The 1940's adaptation
was for a UK TELEVISION anthology series. [check [removed] for the date]
Arthur Lortie
ALortie@[removed]
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:15:14 -0500
From: "Harlan Zinck" <preservation@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Shipping Glass Disks
Ed Carr writes:
i need an idea to pkg and ship glass based discs and to see that they
arrive
safely across country, any input would be welcome, i have never
shipped glass before and even though i think i know a way, i would
prefer someone with experience
Glass - yes, plain window glass - was used as a base for blank recording
disks thoughout World War II, due to the necessity to allocate all aluminum
to war production. It may seem ludicrious now to have used such fragile
material for this purpose, but it worked quite well, was inexpensive to
produce, and the disks were far less fragile when new than they are today.
(Anyone who has bounced a baseball off someone's window and been glad to see
that the glass *didn't* break knows that new glass is far stronger than one
might suspect.) Besides, most recordings made by radio stations were only
needed for a few days or in most cases a few hours, after which they were
routinely discarded anyway. Sad now, considering the loss, but true then.
Shipping glass disks is always hazardous and best avoided, but there is a
safe way to make sure they arrive at their destination unbroken:
First off, when handling glass, at all times made sure that the entire
surface is supported. To do this, place the disk on top of another disk of
the same size - an aluminum-based disk works quite well. I know many dubbers
who have taken a damaged and peeling disk, removed the lacquer so that only
the aluminum base remains, and use this round aluminum plate over and over
for full support when playing a glass-based recording.
Take your glass disk and place it on top of a lacquer of the same size. Then
place another lacquer on top of the glass disk, sandwiching the glass
between the two lacquers. (You can put a couple of sheets of paper between
the surfaces, but don't use anything that is flexible - like foam - as this
will defeat the purpose.)
Place the sandwich on top of a piece of 1/4 plywood (or at least two
thicknesses of very rigid cardboard) to the bottom of which you've already
attached four pieces of thick mailing or duct tape, one on each side. The
plywood or cardboard needs to be the exact same size as the disk - [removed]" x
[removed]" is normal for 16" disks. Place an equal thickness of plywood or
cardboard on top, creating another sandwich:
plywood-lacquer-glass-lacquer-plywood. Making sure it is entirely flat on a
table or counter, pull up the tape and secure it on the top of the plywood,
sealing the sandwiches and making them a solid block.
If you're mailing a number of glass disks, you can use the top of one
sandwich as the bottom of the next one, building until you have a solid
block consisting of 4 glass disks, 8 lacquers, and numerous sheets of
plywood or cardboard. Once you get through with this, you'll have a heavy
but solid and immobile block.
At this point, take the block and place it into a box of it's own, as close
as possible to the dimensions of the block. If you come close and have, say,
1/4" to spare around the edges, fill this in with pieces of cardboard. The
main thing is to make sure that the block cannot move within the box, as
shifting can equal breakage. Seal this box, then wrap it in bubble wrap and
place it into a shipping box, surrounding it with additional bubble wrap or
newspaper so the box-within-the-box cannot shift or move. Then seal the box,
label it all over the place with "Fragile - Glass" stickers, and ship it
First Class Insured to wherever it's going.
There are variations on this, of course. Some people make a special box out
of wood just to house the block of disks, then put the wood box in the
shipping box. This works well, but it means you needed to pay attention in
shop class to build it right - or have a friendly neighbor with power tools.
Hope this helps, Ed - and, say, what's *on* those disks anyway?
Harlan
Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:37:01 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Time Machine and X Minus One
Alan Bell said:
If there is a 1940s version of The Time machine, I'd be interested in
knowing about it too. I'm only aware of a perfectly execrable X Minus
One version from the 1950s that just about made me hurl my cookies.
Before you start blaming X Minus One, I should point out that X Minus One
never did a version of the Time Machine. That particular storyline was done
on Escape from 5/9/48 and 10/27/50 and NBC's Favorite Story (I don't have a
date on that one). The BBC did two versions from 1968 and 1974.
It was not unusual for all science fiction on radio in the fifties to be
somehow attached to either Dimension X or X Minus One. But both series were
fairly reputable though some adaptations were a bit short on depth given
the time frame the scriptwriters had to work with.
Either your information is wrong, or you have a copy that someone has
edited to appear to come from X Minus One.
Jim Widner
jwidner@[removed]
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:36:41 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Be careful about those great deals on cd's
The great buy you mentioned does have some drawbacks---but it is still a
great buy!!
1/ These cd's in particular are 650mb, not the 700mb that you see in other
stores for a comparable price
2/The speeds on these cd's may be less than the speed of your burner. For
example, if you have a 24x speed burner, you probably bought it because
it's so fast. These cd's are maybe 16x, or even 12x, so your Porsche is
destined to drive only as fast as a Kia--meaning it can't burn them any
faster than the cd is rated.
3/ The reverse is also true. Office Max had a 200 pack of 32x speed cd's
last week for a great $10 or $15 price (after rebates, of course). But
guess what! My burner is 16x only and they would not have burned any faster
than my 16x burner---and I already have too many free 16x speed cd's.
But it's still a great deal--but understand what you're buying.
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:34:36 -0500
From: Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@[removed];
To: "Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: THE LONE RANGER: SECRET AGENT
Shortly after the outbreak of WW II, when most of our OTR Programs were
geared to the War effort and used as propaganda mechanism, There was an
episode of the Lone Ranger, where he gets a summons - through the Padre' that
always relayed any messages for help - to Washington DC to confer with
President Lincoln. He comes in disguise and presents a silver bullet to the
President's secretary as a means of identification. The President asks the
Lone Ranger, if he would serve his country in the capacity of undercover
agent to thwart the trouble in the West that has leanings towards the
Confederacy. This episode was called - I think - 'The Civil War Story,' and
he serves as an agent through many of the episodes during WW II. This is one
example of the LR and the early History of our country being told on this
program, as was mentioned by another poster about the Lone Ranger.
Kevin Michaels
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:34:53 -0500
From: Mark Reesor <mrees@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Orson Welles
Kevin Michaels wrote:
Manachevitts and Mogen David Wine were popular brands, and I think one of
them (Mogen David)
sponsored Sherlock Holmes at one time. The third one, although not a program
sponsor, did have a running commercial by Orson Welles that ended with:. . .
"Paul Monet will sell NO [removed] its time!"
Which brings to mind the SCTV (or was it Wayne and Shuster) satire of the
commercial, which showed Welles delivering the line, "... will sell no wine
before it's time" and then turns offscreen and asks "what time is it?"
Someone says "3 o:clock" and Welles says "it's time!"
Mark Reesor
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:36:25 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Who was it?
I was watching an "I Love Lucy" rerun last night and Lucy was trying to
teach a tall, lanky, bashful, high school boy how to dance.
That was Richard Crenna. The girl was played by Janet Waldo.
Joe
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:36:42 -0500
From: "erosenstein" <erosenstein@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lone Ranger book
Thanxxx to Rob Chatlin (chatlin@[removed])
I was able to locate the book he mentioned in OTR#91, which contains the
first radio script---It was at our
library, believe it or not; and I reserved it---
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Record # 4
Author : Rothel, David, 1936-
Title : Who was that masked man? : The story of the Lone Ranger / David
Rothel.
Call Number : [removed] L847r
Publisher : South Brunswick, [[removed]] : A. S. Barnes, c1976
=======================
David Rothel also wrote the following:
**Rothel, David, 1936- The great show business animals / by David Rothel.
[removed] R742g
Click below for location:
FLP Catalog [[removed] R742g]
**Rothel, David, 1936- The singing cowboys / David Rothel.
[removed] R742s
Click below for location:
FLP Catalog [[removed] R742s]
**Rothel, David, 1936- Those great cowboy sidekicks / by David Rothel.
[removed] R742t
Click below for location:
FLP Catalog [[removed] R742t]
Thanxxxxx, Rob--
Edward in Philadelphia (erosenstein@[removed])
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:37:03 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Hal Stone
I just received a flyer through the mail for this years Old Time Radio and
Nostalgia Convention being held in Cincinnati. Lo and behold, whose picture do
I find in there? None other than the intrepid Hal Stone. I have always thought
that life is not fair, now I know it isn't. It just is not fair that one man
should have so much talent and be a handsome devil besides. Oh well, mother
always said, "life ain't fair". I guess she was right.
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:37:23 -0500
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: link to NBC chimes article
This link is long, but Broadcating&Cable magazine offers an interesting
article on the chimes, as part of the "official" NBC 75th anniversary
celebration.
[removed];articleid=CA200100&display=Supplement&title=The+legend+of+the+NBC+chimes&pubdate=03/11/2002
Eric Cooper
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