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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 206
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
NEEDED ASAP: Corwin recordings [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
7-8 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Re: Aldrich Family movies [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Dinner non-listening [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
What might have been [ Jmeals@[removed] ]
Hal verses Harold [ Zharold138@[removed] ]
Re : Henry Aldrich movies and other [ "Lloyd Harradan" <lharradan@hotmail ]
RE: Larry's Comments on REPS [ "[removed]" <donsplace@[removed]; ]
Our Miss Brooks [ "Bob Pedersen" <bobbyp@[removed]; ]
Audio Transfer Assistance? [ "Barnett, Tom L" <[removed]@acs ]
mixed reels [ "erest@[removed]" <erest@bel ]
Brief Notes On Several Subjects [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <BrianLBedswort ]
list of OTR clubs [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:05:09 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NEEDED ASAP: Corwin recordings
Folks;
I am in a time constraint, and need some help. I'm looking for
good-quality copies of certain Norman Corwin programs, preferably on CD - I
will cheerfully purchase good-quality copies from the legit dealers here, so
please contact me if you have any of these shows. I can wait the few days
shipping will require for these copies.
I also _desperately_ need listening copies of these same shows
sooner-than-immediately (if anyone has a time machine handy, yesterday would
work really well!). If anyone can email/ftp to me MP3 copies of any of the
shows, even if of an inferior sound quality, I'd _really_ appreciate it.
Please contact me before sending files, though, so we don't duplicate efforts
and so no files are accidentally bounced by the server.
Note these shows aren't the "usual suspects" (I have the "biggies" like
"We Hold These Truths," etc.) it's a somewhat more eclectic list, and I have
no idea if any/all are existant (and a conversation on what Corwin works
_are_ available would be interesting, I think):
Norman Corwin's Words Without Music
(Any)
Particularly 1938's "The Plot to Overthrow Christmas"
Particularly 1939's "Spoon River Anthology"
Columbia Workshop
1940's "My Client Curley"
26 By Corwin
(Any)
Particularly "Psalm for a Dark Year"
Columbia Presents Corwin
(Any)
One World Flight
(Any)
Particularly "Introduction"
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:26:48 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 7-8 births/deaths
July 8th births
07-08-1882 - Percy Grainger - Melbourne, Australia - d. 2-20-1961
composer: "Prudential Family Hour"; "The Pause that Refreshes."
07-08-1889 - Eugene Pallette - Winfield, KS - d. 9-3-1954
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
07-08-1898 - Melville Ruick - Boise, ID - d. xx-xx-1972
actor, announcer: "Cavalcade of America"; "Quiet Please"; "Suspense"
07-08-1908 - Nelson Rockefeller - Bar Harbor, ME - d. 1-26-1979
vice president: Helped fund "Hello Americans" with Orson Welles
07-08-1910 - Jack Rubin - New York - d. 10-10-1952
writer: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "The Hardy Family"; "Hilltop House"; "The
O'Neills"
07-08-1913 - Ann Thomas - Newport, RI - d. 4-28-1989
actress: Sharon O'Shaughnessy "Bob Burns Show"; Barbara Weeks "We Love and
Learn"
07-08-1913 - Bill Thompson - Terre Haute, IN - d. 7-15-1971
actor: Wallace Wimple, Horatio K Boomer and others "Fibber McGee and Molly"
07-08-1914 - Billy Eckstine - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-8-1993
jazz vocalist: "Yessiree . . .It's Mr. B!"; "ABCs of Music"; "Julilee"; "Big
Show"
07-08-1917 - Faye Emerson - Elizabeth, NJ - d. 3-9-1983
actress: "My Silent Partner"
07-08-1917 - Glenn Langan - Denver, CO - d. 1-19-1991
actor: "Chuck Morgan "Stand By For Crime"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
07-08-1917 - Pamela Brown - London, England - d. 9-18-1975
actress: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Theatre On the Air"
07-08-1918 - Craig Stevens - Liberty, MO - d. 5-10-2000
actor: "Hollywood Radio Theatre"
07-08-1931 - Jerry Vale - New York City, NY
singer: "Peter Lind Hayes Show"
07-08-1934 - Marty Feldman - East London, England - d. 12-3-1982
comedian, writer: "Round the Horne"; "We're In Business"
07-08-1935 - Steve Lawrence - Brooklyn, NY
singer: "Roadshow"
July 8th deaths
03-04-1914 - Ward Kimball - Minneapolis, MN - d. 7-8-2002
disney animator: "Here's to Veterans"
03-29-1914 - Phil Foster - New York City, NY - d. 7-8-1985
actor: "What's With Hubert"; "Baseball Round Table"; "Big Show"
08-03-1917 - Charlie Shavers - New York City, NY - d. 7-8-1971
jazz trumpeter: "Jump Time"; "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Tommy Dorsey Show"
08-04-1792 - Percy Shelly - Field Place, England - d. 7-8-1822
poet: "Moon River"
08-24-1913 - Howard Duff - Bremerton, WA - d. 7-8-1990
actor: Sam Spade "Advs. of Sam Spade"; Mike McCoy "McCoy"; Josh Chandler
"Dear John"
10-15-1918 - Robert Lee - Elyria, OH - d. 7-8-1994
writer: "Columbia Presents Corwin"
10-25-1914 - John Reed King - Atlantic City, NJ - d. 7-8-1979
announcer, actor:"Columbia Workshop"; Schuyler 'Sky' King " "Sky King"
12-25-1904 - Gladys Swarthout - Deepwater, MO - d. 7-8-1969
singer: "Palmolive Beauty Box Theatre"; "Prudential Family Hour"; "Voice of
Firestone"
xx-xx-1921 - Wayne Howell - d. 7-8-1993
announcer, disc jockey: "Chamber Music Chamber Society of Lower Basin Street"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:08:16 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Aldrich Family movies
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In a message dated 7/8/05 8:33:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
The Henry Aldrich films have rarely been shown on television over the years
(they have, but rarely) and it's hard to find them.
I became exposed to them in the 1970s when WTBS out of Atlanta ran them all
week long, and they surprised me at how funny they were. I didn't even
realize
until later that it had been a radio series first, having heard an episode
rerun on a Canadian shortwave network.
Dixon
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:08:45 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dinner non-listening
Speaking of listening to radio while "at table," Ted Kneebone notes,
At the Kneebone home, there was no radio while we ate our meals.
Dinner and supper were reserved for eating and talking
The same general rule was observed at the Kallis home. However,
supper/dinner often fell at 5:30, so my father took pity on me and got a
portable Zenith radio, into which he had installed an earphone jack. I
could listen to Captain Midnight while dining. (I did not ask for it; my
father was just a good guy.) The minute the program was over, I turned
off the portable, removed the earphones, and became a regular supper
participant.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:17:48 -0400
From: Jmeals@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: What might have been
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I have very much enjoyed the discussion concerning those two extraordinary
performers, Edgar Bergen and Paul Winchell. If I recall correctly, Paul
Winchell had a brief stint on Monitor in the late fifties.
Why was the stint brief? I believe that Monitor got the wrong ventriloquist.
Paul Winchell was terrific on TV but radio was Edgar Bergen's medium. I find
it sad that Edgar Bergen and Monitor never connected. I believe that Edgar
and his friends would have been a welcomed and long running fixture on that
program.
What might have [removed]
Jim Meals
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:59:42 -0400
From: Zharold138@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hal verses Harold
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This is a open letter to:
Hal (Harold) Stone.
I see now why you never liked me!!!
Yours,Harold Zeigler
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:00:16 -0400
From: "Lloyd Harradan" <lharradan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re : Henry Aldrich movies and other OTR video
These videos crop up from time to time on [removed]
vintage-films and [removed]
A good source - in Canada at least - is Walmart, which has a selection for
$[removed] (Canadian). The disc sometimes has 2 or 3 shows. Zellars, sometimes
has some too, at a slightly higher price.
There hasn't been much activity on this area - no list, no trading board -
and collectors come in on the coattails of the vintage film crowd.
h
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:00:38 -0400
From: "[removed]" <donsplace@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Larry's Comments on REPS
I totally agree with Mr. Albert's (I'm in formal mode after that last
post by Hal) assessment of the Archie recreation, and his work as
announcer was easily equal to the quality of the rest of the production.
What he failed to mention about Hal's amazing swashbuckling was that
immediately before that performance, he was giving dance
demonstrations in the back of the room for a goodly amount of time,
and after that sprinting across the room to hug sweet little old ladies!
And I thought my goats had energy!
--- [removed]
"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am
persecuted whenever I am contradicted." --- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:00:57 -0400
From: "Bob Pedersen" <bobbyp@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Our Miss Brooks
Does anyone remember which show featured a detective who, when knocked
out, ended up on a cloud with a peculiar little man?
Gerald Friedlansky
You're thinking of Richard Rogue in "Rogue's Gallery," played by Dick
Powell.
Any time Rogue got knocked out he imagined himself floating up to Cloud
Eight,
inhabited by Eugor, a cackling little fellow who would give Rogue some vague
idea
on how next to proceed with the case he was working on.
I believe Peter Leeds played Eugor which, incidentally, is "Rogue" spelled
backward.
Bob Pedersen
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:20:07 -0400
From: "Barnett, Tom L" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Audio Transfer Assistance?
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I have some special cassettes that I would like to get transferred to CDs
and MP3s. If capable, please contact off list with prices.
Tom Barnett, PMP
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:09:35 -0400
From: "erest@[removed]" <erest@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: mixed reels
Back when I purchased shows on reel to reel there were lots of mixed
reels from vendors. Many had shows that very few episodes were
available. Others had a connection. I remember one reel of Johnny
Dollar and Suspense intermixed from the early 60's.
Later on I'd buy reels of same shows say Suspense, Bing Crosby, Have Gun
Will Travel,Jack Benny and others and transfer then to cassette. On
each work day I'd take one or two with me . As many of the reels had
consective shows it seemed like I was listening to them just as they
were broadcast.
With mp3 I do about the same thing. I have 7 folders on my mp3 player
and I put 1 episode of different shows in each and listen 1 folder at a
time.
Rob
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:09:37 -0400
From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <BrianLBedsworth@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Brief Notes On Several Subjects
1. Our Miss Brooks
Whether or not the series is actually running anywhere at this time, it
=has= run in major cities as late as the mid-1990s (Phoenix ch. 27/55; also
on [removed] ch. 56 and [removed] ch. 44 [possibly 20?] through at least the early
1990s). And, yes, these were filmed episodes; if any kines were made, they
were not part of the package I saw on any of the above-mentioned stations
during my childhood and teen years.
It's also one of the very few excellent radio-to-TV transfers made (at least
on-par with, if not superior to, the original). A few isolated episodes are
available commercially as part of broader 1950s TV and sitcom-specific DVD
boxed sets, while the feature film (sadly, it seems, in VHS only) can be
obtained from certain post-retail online outlets.
2. Listening In Bulk
Generally, the better the series, the easier and more satisfying it is to
queue up several (or, better several =dozen=) of the same title in
chronological order and really listen for understanding, rather than just
enjoyment.
I'm in the midst of a long spell of Gunsmoke at the moment, for instance, a
show that quietly implemented a well-defined backdrop of landmarks and
townsfolk enhancing the show's verisimilitude -- so quietly that it scarcely
rates notice =except= in bulk-listening form. (On the other hand, when the
show made some mistakes in continuity, as with the ever-changing Yorky Kelly
backstory, such missteps become far more noticable, far more distracting,
just because there are so darned few of them. Excellence becomes expected
over time.)
A sampling of series which are more enlightening with regard to their
near-literary construction when heard together:
Jack Benny (the Josefsberg/Tackaberry/et al period);
Richard Diamond (marred only by the constant recasting of Walt Levinson --
really, Ed Begley =and= Arthut Q. Bryan???);
The Saint (once the producers established Templar firmly as a New Yorker,
anyway; the few episodes that suggest he and Louie reside in a mid-sized
midwestern town are grating in this light);
Sherlock Holmes (Boucher/Green);
Have Gun, Will Travel;
Henry Morgan (the variety show, not the monologues);
I Love A Mystery (how in the world did anyone manage to work attend school,
or function even minimally as a member of the community while waiting a day,
two days, or as long as a full week between episodes???)
Sadly, there are good shows that don't stand up in large doses. Long runs of
Burns and Allen, for example, leave me less and less amused, and more and
more wondering why George hasn't done something with Gracie that'd make a
good plot for the Whistler.
Most of the original anthologies not named Suspense, Escape, or something
beginning with the letters "CBS" are so obviously written by rote (introduce
sympathetic character -- induce stressful situation -- reveal character
actually unsympathetic -- give character comeuppance) that only the most
hysterical, sensational or horrifying impinge even slightly on the monotony,
and even the salacious elements quickly dissolve into so much background
noise.
One episode of Amos 'n' Andy gives the impression Gosden and Correll dearly
loved their creations. Multiple listenings to the calumnities they would
heap upon those same creations, though, make the show feel almost sadistic
and contemptuous of its three leads.
3. Complete Broadcast Days
One Digester ( -- 'scuze me -- ) suggested the assembling and marketing (or
at least the "listening-to") of this subject. In fact, such packages have
been commercially available. A couple exist for D-Day, another for the
beginning of WW2 (the day of the Poland invasion), and still another for V-J
day. These make for fascinating listening.
4. Animation and OTR
The passing of Norm Prescott and the topic of the many radio veterans who
worked for him (and, simultaneously as well as later, Bil Hanna and Joe
Barbara) brings to mind a story I heard many years ago pointing out what an
influence those voices had on the medium and those producing in it, yet also
how remote a time that seemed even to those producers, two decades past.
The producer of a prominent animated series of the mid-1980s (whose name
would be known to many on this list, while the subject of the series would
be =instantly= recognizable) had a script which called [removed] well, let's
just say a role really demanded that the lines be delivered in a manner that
would trigger instant recognition from =everyone= on this list, even if the
name of the performer who introduced that style or delivery might not.
So, the producer put out a "cattle call" voice audition specifically calling
for talent who could mimic that particular style. Not unusual; more-or-less
contemporary shows like "Animaniacs", for one, often did the same when the
need for long-ago characterizations arose, as they often did. And the talent
whose style was being mimicked here certainly classified as "long-ago",
having first come to serious prominence before the war.
The day of the audition found the studio offices filled with young hotshot
VAs -- and one prospect noticably senior to the rest of the crowd.
=Very= senior.
Senior enough to reportedly induce the producer to make some panicked mental
calculations with regard to how old this "long-ago" talent would have been
if still living. Nah. Couldn't be the same person. Would have to be at
[removed] nah, couldn't be.
But, of course, when this "senior" VA's turn to read came up, the delivery
was unmistakable. Same person. Still active. Still capable of giving that
great, distinctive reading. But thought long gone. Just like radio.
But neither had "gone". And, even now, radio isn't truly "gone". It gets
further away from us each day, true, but not so far that we can't talk to
many of those who created and promoted the medium. And certainly not so far
that those creators' work can't still be enjoyed in new ways, by new
audiences, on media that would have been a mere pipedream to even the most
farsighted creators for the SF series of the era. We are so truly blessed.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:10:09 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: list of OTR clubs
Hi Everybody,
Yesterday USA will be posting a section on the web site how can people
contact many of the OTR Clubs. If you would like to be on the list please
email me contact information like telephone number web site ect. I might
already have it on files but send it to me just to make sure. I will list
many below that I would like to help promote or if you know of one let me
know. We receive close to 600,000 hits a month on our web site and this
could be an easy way to get the word out about your club.
1. REPS
2. SPERDVAC
3. First Generation
4. NARA
5. RHAC
6. Milwaukee Old Time Radio Club
7. RLL
8. Western New York Old Time Radio Club
9. Radio Collector of America
10. there is a club base in TN Old Time Radio Club
11. there is a club base in Kentucky
12. Metro Area Washington Old Time Radio Club
13. Golden Radio Buff of Marilyn
14. Vic and Sade
15. Lum and Abbner
16. Jack Benny
17. One Man Family Family
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