Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #163
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Date: 5/25/2005 4:19 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 163
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Thurl Ravenscroft Dies                [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Re: WSB and NBC Chimes                [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
  Gail 'n' Drake                        [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Ah, Kubelsky! Ah, Humanity!           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Radio Scripts                         [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  5-25 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Jim Widner's question                 [ "Stevenson, Graeme (FVAH)" <Graeme. ]
  Howdy Doody transcribed               [ "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@charter. ]
  IJBFC Boston gathering                [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Late to the party, [removed]             [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Media Bay Sends Shows to Libraries    [ seandd@[removed] ]

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:55:05 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Thurl Ravenscroft Dies

The voice of 'Tony the Tiger' was part of the OTR community as well.

[removed]

-Irene 

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:05:50 -0400
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: WSB and NBC Chimes

Wayne Johnson wrote::

Speaking of WSB, take a look at [removed]

I have been to that site; it is very nice.

The following came from [removed]

The three note combination came from WSB
in Atlanta which used it for its own purposes until one day someone at NBC in
New York heard the WSB version of the notes during a networked broadcast of a
Georgia Tech football game and asked permission to use it on the national
network.

I am actually trying to research this, because I read somewhere that
Georgia Tech did not start broadcasting their football games until the
early 1930s.  Email sent to Georgia Tech has not received a response
as of yet.

WSB began using chimes probably within their first year of operation,
say 1922 or 23.  The earliest recorded use of chimes on NBC is 1927.
WSB joined NBC in 1927, but I doubt any of us will know which came
first - WSB joining NBC, or NBC using chimes. Certainly the idea of
using an aural indentification was nothing new by then; WGY in
Schenectady NY had been playing the notes G-E-C on a piano, and Texas
station WBAP believes their use of a cowbell predates WSB's chimes.

The rest of the article you quoted on the NBC chimes was actually
written by me for the Wikipedia entry on NBC. :)

Michael Shoshani
Chicago IL

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:06:10 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gail 'n' Drake
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My fellow Garden Stater Joan Leonard once told me when she was young and used
to hear
promos for "Galen Drake," she thought they were in reference to the
man-and-woman team of
"Gail  'n'  Drake."

Is this the shortest posting I've ever had here on the Digest?

Derek Tague

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:06:27 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ah, Kubelsky! Ah, Humanity!
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Our favourite Kermyt wrote about Joe Mackey's "This Day in OTR History
posting:

5/22

1955 - Jack Benny signed off his last live network radio broadcast
after a run of 23 years.

I'm a few Digests behind, but I read in the newswire "This Day in History" in
"The {Newark NJ]                                            Sunday
Star-Ledger" that this past Sunday (22) was also the anniversary of the last
original "The                                                Tonight Show
Starring Johnny Carson." I cannot remember the year (1992? 1993?), but find it
wonderfully ironic that Carson did HIS last show on the anniversary of his
idol Jack Benny's
last original radio show.

Maybe I'm a sentimentalist at heart.

Breathing in too much ether,

Derek Tague

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:06:35 -0400
From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Scripts
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Hello, all.
Does anyone know anything about Vincent Terrace's bookm RADIO SHOW OPENINGS &
CLOSINGS? Does the book contain radio commercial scripts for various products?
I am greatly confused by th [removed] description of this work.
Can someone on the digest fill me in, please?
Thanks,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:49:38 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:49:54 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  5-25 births/deaths

May 25th births

05-25-1892 - Bennett Cerf - NYC - d. 8-27-1971
narrator, panelist: "Biography in Sound"; "What's My Line?"
05-25-1898 - Gene Tunney - NYC - d. 11-7-1978
heavyweight boxing champion: "National Guard Show"; "The Nave is Fit to Fight"
05-25-1907 - Barbara Luddy - Helena, MT - d. 4-1-1979
actress: Carol Evans "Road of Life"; Janet Munson Adams "Woman in White"
05-25-1908 - Linda Watkins - Boston, MA - d. 10-31-1976
actress: Dot "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"; "Big Guy"; "Fat Man"
05-25-1913 - Richard Dimbleby - Richmond onThames, England - d. 12-22-1965
BBC's first-ever radio news reporter: "Down Your Way"; "Twenty Questions"
05-25-1916 - Ginny Simms - San Antonio, TX - d. 4-4-1994
singer: "Ginny Simms Show"; "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
05-25-1916 - Kenin O'Morrison - St. Louis, MO
actor: Charlie Wild "Charlie Wild, Private Detective"
05-25-1917 - Steve Cochran - Eureka, CA - d. 6-15-1965
actor: "Voice of the Army"; "Unexpected"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
05-25-1918 - Henry Calvin - Dallas, TX - d. 10-6-1975
actor: Joshua Sharpe "Big Guy"
05-25-1919 - Lindsey Nelson - Campbellsville, TN - d. 6-10-1995
sportscaster: "Monitor Preview"; "Biography In Sound"
05-25-1921 - Kitty Kallen - Philadelphia, PA
singer: "Kitty Kallen Calling"; "Harry James and His Music Makers"
05-25-1925 - Jeanne Crain - Barstow, CA - d. 12-14-2003
actress: "Screen Guild Players"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
05-25-1927 - William "Rosko" Mercer - NYC - d. 8-1-2000
disc jockey, announcer: CBS Network
05-25-1929 - Beverly Sills - Brooklyn, NY
singer: "Major Bowes Capitol Family"

May 25th deaths

01-22-1894 - Rosa Ponselle - Meriden, CT - d. 5-25-1981
opera soprano: "Atwater Kent Hour"; "Metropolitan Opera"
04-18-1880 - Donald Crisp - Aberfeldy, Scotland - d. 5-25-1974
actor: Jonathan Trimble "Jonathan Trimble, Esquire"
08-27-1926 - Pat Coombs - London, England - d. 5-25-2002
comedian: Nola "Hello Playmates"
09-08-1914 - Hillary Brooke - Astoria, NY - d. 5-25-1999
actress: "Suspense"
10-09-1907 - Henry Hunter - Rahway, NJ - d. 5-25-1985
actor: Anthony J. Marleybone "Affairs of Anthony"; Terry Regan "Attorney at
Law"
11-06-1899 - Francis Lederer - Prague, Czechoslovakia - d. 5-25-2000
actress: Guest Armchair detective: Ellery Queen
xx-xx-1918 - Tom Fouts (Captain Stubby) - d. 5-25-2004
humorist: "National Barn Dance"; "Is Anybody Home?"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:50:05 -0400
From: "Stevenson, Graeme (FVAH)" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jim Widner's question

Re. Jim Widner's question about the time of certain news releases during the
2nd World War, people may be interested to know that the BBC  monitored the
German radio 24 hours per day during this [removed] the files are still
held at the BBC Written Archives, Caversham Park, Reading, England, RG 4  8
TZ and they can be contacted by genuine researchers.

Graeme Stevenson, Scotland.

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:45:47 -0400
From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Howdy Doody transcribed
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Hi -- A. Joseph Ross mentions a line in the early days of TV about a portion
of "Howdy Doody" being transcribed.   What was recorded was Howdy's dialogue,
done earlier by Buffalo Bob Smith, so that he did not have to change his voice
live to do that of the puppet, since Bob was not a ventriloquist. I am
submitting this just to prove I do know something about something other than
old time radio.
    -- Jim Harmon

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:46:07 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  IJBFC Boston gathering

Hi folks,

FYI to any members in the Boston area:  the International Jack Benny  Fan
Club is having an informal dinner gathering on Thursday, June 2 at 7:00  PM.
Attendees will include Kay Linaker (costar with Jack in "Buck Benny  Rides
Again"
and "Man About Town") and Benny granddaughter Joanna  Meiseles.  For all the
details, go to _[removed]_ ([removed])  and look for
the Boston  link under Featured Items.  Please RSVP by May 28!

--Laura  Leff
President, IJBFC
[removed]

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:47:03 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Late to the party, [removed]

Elizabeth McLeod
Re: Radio  Minimalism

No story, no sound effects, just two people  talking.

Personally, this is my favorite format for radio --  probably the most
demanding approach of all from a writing and acting  standpoint.

Dear Folks-

Though it's taken me a while to post,  I followed this debate with interest
(and Elizabeth may recall that we  corresponded off-list about same, a few
years [removed])

I see the point  here, and MORE than grant it; in fact, I yield to no one, in
my admiration for  such a variation - when it's appropriate. The sublime
dialogue of someone like a  Paul Rhmer, and the fact that his dramas are
generally
small-cast "chamber  dramas," makes this style suitable.

BUT-

What a mistake would it  have been, to produce such pieces as THE WAR OF THE
WORLDS, or THREE SKELETON  KEY thus! (Though, amazingly, producers did it then
- and do it to this  day, at times.)

A piece that DEMANDS detail of space, place, & time,  to work, is effectively
killed by sparse production. To use a film analogy, it  would be like
producing GONE WITH THE WIND with actors dressed in  black coveralls, in
front of
gray flats.

Such audio drama is not only  aesthetically off, it is lazy - and profoundly
disrespectful of a richly capable  medium. By all means, chose the jewels of
beautiful writing & acting; but  don't just lay those gems on a plank - put
them in a flattering  setting.

"For everything, there is a [removed]"

Best,
-Craig  Wichman
Quicksilver Radio Theater

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:35:23 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Media Bay Sends Shows to Libraries

The latest press release from MediaBay covers distribution of OTR to libraries.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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