Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #275
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 10/10/2006 6:00 AM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 275
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Gaps in the Rails                     [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Re: Ann Sothern                       [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
  RE: Johnny Dollar                     [ Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed]; ]
  Radio Horrors                         [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Re: Johnny Dollar                     [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
  YTJD 5-parts                          [ wayne_johnson@[removed] ]
  OTR Pod                               [ david vonbogart <dvonbogart@[removed] ]
  Boris Karloff interviews?             [ Bruce Rosenberger <bmr3d@[removed]; ]
  Ann Southern                          [ DR <swl2010@[removed]; ]
  Groucho Marx                          [ DR <swl2010@[removed]; ]
  10-10 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Reels for sale                        [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:07:06 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Gaps in the Rails

From: "Martin Grams, Jr."  mmargrajr@[removed]

The Lonesome Train  -  Who wrote the  song?

[removed]

-Craig

("Young  Mr. Lincoln" yesterday; Just Plain Craig today.)

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:07:23 -0400
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Ann Sothern

Ann Sothern was in Private Secretary which ran on CBS from 1953 to 1957. She
appeared in 62 OTR shows according to [removed] but this is not
complete list since she was in more than that many Adventures of Maisie
shows. The [removed] list includes several shows she was in beside
the Maisie series so she she probably has been in over a 100 OTR episodes of
different shows.
Andrew Godfrey

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:40:38 -0400
From: Joseph Webb <drjoewebb@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE: Johnny Dollar

For sure the post-5-part YTJD series is well done, but don't shortchange the
5-parters.

Yes, there is a need to recap, usually through dialogue, but it's relatively
minor. I listened to the whole 5-part run in a set that's circulating where
the openings and closings between shows are removed and you just go
show-to-show as if it was one. It wasn't that annoying, thought it was
obvious.

There are some clunkers, but it's usually the whole story line ("Laird
Douglas Douglas of Heatherscote" comes to mind), and sometimes the 3rd
episode kind of floats in mid-air like styrofoam packing to keep parts 1&2
away from 4&5.

But the thing Johnstone could do in the 5-parters was more character
development. In fact, if you listen to the 5-parters first, you pick up
things about JD that are only hinted at in future episodes.

The most surprising to me is when it moved to NY that the Johnstone writing
was still very much the essence of the show, despite the canned music and the
change in ensamble, and most important, the fact that those shows actually
got shorter by a couple of minutes or so.

Speaking of Johnstone, does anyone have interviews or recordings of him? What
other series did he work on? Are there any episodes prior to the 5-part run
that he did? I don't remember hearing him get credited before that run.

Regards to all
Joe Webb

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:29:55 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Horrors

Chris Holm asked about radio horrors.  The answer would depend on your
definition of horror.  Sorry to be technical but this might make the same
topic that was discussed last year a bit more interesting.

Anything that is scary could be considered horror.  My sister-in-law will
not allow my nieces (under the age of 6) to watch Disney's SNOW WHITE AND
THE SEVEN DWARFS because of the mean old witch and little Brea actually is
scared of the witch.  Cinderella is okay, big mean witch - no.

Back in the 1930s and 1940s, "horror" was actually defined as blood and
thunder style murder mysteries.  Inner Sanctum, The Thin Man, even Mr. and
Mrs. North was considered a "horror" program.  Horror has a bigger meaning
today as we refer to those mystery programs of the past as "mysteries" but
back then they were "horror."

QUIET, PLEASE would be classified as "Fantasy," not horror, because the
stories ranged from romance to science-fiction.  Very few had horror
elements and that's all it had - elements.  Not the mood of creepy and
scary.

CAPE COD MYSTERY THEATRE entitled "The Caller on Line One" is wonderfully
performed and suspenseful, but I don't think it qualifies as a horror drama.
  Neither would "The Judas Clock" on INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY or "Never Steal a
Butcher's Wife" on SUSPENSE.  Thrillers, slightly suspenseful yes.  Horror,
no.

I know Chris included a few comedies in his list because they are
Halloween-themed but if one wants to be technical, here are some truly scary
episodes that qualify as horror for what they are worth.

ESCAPE  "Three Skeleton Key"  November 15, 1949 production is the best.

HALL OF FANTASY  "The Crawling Thing"

MURDER AT MIDNIGHT  "Terror Out of Space"  Syndicated, February 24, 1947 NYC
airdate.
This episode has been overlooked many times but has to be one of the
scariest dramas done on that series and very effective.

THE HALL OF FANTASY  "The Crawling Thing"

THE MYSTERIOUS TRAVELER  "Behind the Locked Door"  May 24, 1949
This series had a number of great horrors (and a number of stinkers) but
this is the only one that is known to exist in circulation of the great
horrors that they did.

SUSPENSE had a number of them.

"Ghost Hunt" with Ralph Edwards  June 23, 1949

"The Trap"  with Agnes Moorehead  June 16, 1949  (often overlooked)

"The House in Cypress Canyon"  December 5, 1946

and "The Hitch-Hiker"  September 2, 1942
I list this on the bottom of the list to state that when Orson Welles did
this drama for SUSPENSE, he did a magnificent job.  However, if you've never
heard this one before or haven't heard it in a while, I suggest the entry
listed below.

THE MERCURY SUMMER THEATER ON THE AIR  "The Hitch-Hiker"  June 21, 1946
version
This production was the fourth and final time Welles did the drama and this
production actually out-does the SUSPENSE production.  Listen to this with
perfect clarity and not a fuzzy multi-generation sound quality to enjoy it's
flavor.  One of the best horror productions done on radio.

Chris listed "The Dunwich Horror" with Ronald Coleman from November 1, 1945.
  The story it was based on, by [removed] Lovecraft, is a great story but the
SUSPENSE production is hampered by the awful sound quality - the scratching
of the transcription disc when it was transferred.  I have never heard a
great sounding copy of this episode and no one seems to have one.  Even if
the sound quality was remastered and cleaned, the adaptation isn't spooky
like it should be.

Chris also listed "The Wailing Wall" from SUSPENSE.  That was never done on
SUSPENSE.  That's one of those INNER SANCTUM episodes where someone edited
the opening and closing theme from INNER SANCTUM and replaced it with
SUSPENSE.  Often found on MP3 format, that is really an INNER SANCTUM
episode, not a SUSPENSE.

THE SHADOW
"Dead Men Walk"   Popularly circulating in collector hands, the ending is so
horrifying I am shocked censors did not censor the demise of the villain.

THE CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER  "The Ghost-Grey Bat"  March 25, 1981
The last 15 minutes of this episode is true horror.

ESCAPE  "The Earth Abides"  November 5 and 12, 1950.  While some might
debate it's science-fiction, this is a great horror story and a superb
production.

ESCAPE  "Casting the Runes"  November 19, 1947  While the production isn't
superb, the story is exceptional horror.

FAVORITE STORY  "The Lottery"  1947-1949 syndication

MYSTERY IN THE AIR  "Mask of Medusa"  stars Peter Lorre.   summer of 1947

THE FIFTH HORSEMAN  "Dawn"  with William Bendix  July 11, 1946
Should have had somebody other than Bendix for this role but the script is
creepy.

I LOVE A MYSTERY  "The Temple of the Vampires"  January 22 to February 16,
1940 version

I LOVE A MYSTERY  "The Monster in the Mansion"  October 6 to November 27,
1941 version is a close second

INNER SANCTUM MYSTERY  "The Button"  Stars Raymond Edward Johnson in a
one-man performance as a man jailed for a crime he did not commit, locked in
darkness and solitude, who finds a way of keeping himself occupied and from
going insane by flipping his shirt button into the air and finding it by
listening to where it lands and rolls.  Towards the end, the button
accidentally lands on a spider's web and he goes insane.  Was performed
twice, February 28, 1943 production is memorable.  Doesn't exist in recorded
form, but the script does and Johnson's voice would have made this one of
the most memorable of the series.

TEXACO STAR THEATER  "Alter Ego"  October 5, 1938 with Bette Davis

If you want to scare yourself this Halloween, these come recommended.

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:20:24 -0400
From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Johnny Dollar

    Many of the multi-part Johnny Dollar "Matters" during the 1955-56
portion of the series run used scripts that were originally written for a
half-hour format.

    The following text is from an article, "Produce It Again, Sam: The Reuse
of Scripts During the Golden Age of Radio" which appeared in the April, 2006
issue of The Old Radio Times.  The entire issue along with the complete
article, can be downloaded at:
[removed]

. . . At least sixteen multi-part episodes that aired during the 1955-56
portion of JOHNNY DOLLAR's run reused earlier 30-minutes DOLLAR scripts and
scripts from other series that were written or co-written by E. Jack Neuman.
Neuman used a pen name, John Dawson, for those 1955-56 efforts. It was
necessary to approximately double the length of the original, half-hour
scripts for the five nights a week, 15-minute format.  Episode titles,
locales, and character names were altered, and scenes and dialog were added.

     A few examples of half-hour JOHNNY DOLLAR scripts by Neuman which
became multi-part episodes by Dawson are:  The Story Of The Big Red
Schoolhouse, (co-written by John Michael Hayes) and The Underwood Matter
which became The Clinton Matter and The Henderson Matter respectively.  The
Story Of The Big Red Schoolhouse also became THE ADVENTURES OF SAM SPADE
episode The Civic Pride Caper by Hayes.

     Scripts from an NBC NIGHTBEAT episode, Big John McMasters, by Neuman
and Hayes and the JOHNNY DOLLAR episode, The San Antonio Matter, by Neuman
were merged to produce the multi-part script for The Valentine Matter with
Dawson credited as the writer.

     At least four JEFF REGAN, INVESTIGATOR scripts by Neuman were reused
for the 1955-56 multi-part run of JOHNNY DOLLAR with extensive script
alterations and additions made by Neuman's alter ego, Dawson.
An example is the script, The Prodigal Daughter, which was reused as The
Pearling Matter.
One REGAN script, The Man Who Came Back, was reused twice on JOHNNY DOLLAR,
first as the half-hour The Elliott Champion Matter with Neuman credited as
the writer and the multiple-part The Bennett Matter with Dawson receiving
the writing credits. . . .

. . . At least one JOHNNY DOLLAR script was used on SUSPENSE.  The
multiple-part JOHNNY DOLLAR episode, The Curse Of Kamashek Matter, by Jack
Johnstone was condensed and reused during the last SUSPENSE season as The
Curse Of Kamoshek; for which Johnstone used a pen name, Jonathan Bundy. . .
 .
Here is a listing of the JOHNNY DOLLAR multi-part episodes by John Dawson
and the script(s) on which they were based:

October 17 - 21, 1955 Chesapeake Fraud Matter  based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - December 26, 1952  The Walter Patterson Matter

October 31, - November 04, 1955  Valentine Matter based on
NIGHTBEAT - March 04, 1951  Big John McMasters
and
JOHNNY DOLLAR - April 28, 1953  The San Antonio Matter

November 14  - 18, 1955  Broderick Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - January 09, 1953  The Thelma Ibsen Matter

November 28, 1955 -  December 02, 1955  Henderson Matter  based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - February 27, 1953  The Underwood Matter

December 12 - 16, 1955  Lancing Fraud Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - February 06, 1953  The Chicago Fraud Matter

December 26 - 30, 1955  Forbes Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - March 31, 1953  The Lester James Matter

January 09  - 13, 1956  Todd Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - January 02, 1953  The Baltimore Matter
and
JOHNNY DOLLAR - May 12, 1953  The Rochester Theft Matter

January 23 - 27, 1956  Duke Red Matter  based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - June 09, 1953  The Oklahoma Red Matter

February 06 - 10, 1956  McClain Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - April 14, 1953  The Madison Matter

February 20 - 24, 1956  Bennett Matter based on
JEFF REGAN  August 21, 1948  The Man Who Came Back
and
ADVENTURES OF SAM SPADE -  August 07, 1949  The Champion Caper
and
JOHNNY DOLLAR - December 12, 1952  The Elliott Champion Matter

March 12 - 16, 1956  Clinton Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - April 04, 1950  The Story of the Big Red Schoolhouse

April 02 - 06, 1956  Salt City Matter based on
JEFF REAGAN - August 07, 1948  The Man Who Liked Mountains

April 16 - 20, 1956  Shepherd Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - December 05, 1952  The James Clayton Matter

April 30 - May 04, 1956  Calicles Matter based on
JOHNNY DOLLAR - May 26, 1953  The Brisbane Fraud Matter

May 21 - 25, 1956  Tears of Night Matter based on
JEFF REAGAN - August 14/1948  The Diamond Quartette
and
ADVENTURES OF SAM SPADE  July 24, 1949  The Tears Of Night Caper

June 18 - 22, 1956  Pearling Matter  based on
JEFF REAGAN - July 17, 1948  The Prodigal Daughter

Signing off for now,

Stewart Wright

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:56:58 -0400
From: wayne_johnson@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  YTJD 5-parts

Several interesting comments concerning the single-part episodes of YTJD
versus the 5-part episodes.  Thanks for sharing them with me.

I totally agree that trying to keep track of the program over a 5-day period
is difficult and that is why a good portion of the show is devoted to recap.
But to what extent?  The episode that I originally brought up, The Silver
Queen Matter, shall be used as an example.

The intro ... just after the phone rings ... I will concede is recap even
though the first episode has nothing to do with recap.  Total intro time over
5 episodes: 4:33.  After the music, Johnny goes into another recap as he
updates his expense repot.  Total Recap over 5 episodes: 3:55.  Grand total:
8:27.

Then there is the story line.  While I will admit that there are times within
the story where conversation turns to past event, I really don't want to call
it recap.  Total storyline over 5 episodes: 49:41.

As to the comment about there being too much "chatter", that is a matter of
opinion I guess.  Even if the entire 26 minutes of the single-part episodes
were devoted to the story line, it really doesn't compare to the 49:41
example above.  To the other extreme, doing away with all that is
unnecessary, one might hear an episode that goes something like:

" .... Johnny Dollar.  I was called by Joe to go to NYC.  A diamond was
missing and it turned out that, even though everyone thought that the husband
did it, the wife's dog ate it.  Yours Truly ..."

Thanks for the opinions and ideas.  That is what the digest is all about.

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:00:10 -0400
From: david vonbogart <dvonbogart@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Pod
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Maybe it's just me but when I go to [removed] I jsut get a add for
ITunes7 download. How can I get to the free podcast? Thanks

  Dave B

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:00:39 -0400
From: Bruce Rosenberger <bmr3d@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Boris Karloff interviews?

Hey folks,

A friend is looking for Karloff interviews. I mentioned that I think I
have one from the Abbot And Costello show but I think he's looking for
something a bit more serious. Did Karloff do any radio interviews that
still exist?

Any help is appreciated!

Bruce

check out my latest podcasts at:
[removed] and
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:27:50 -0400
From: DR <swl2010@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ann Southern

The title was indeed "Private Secretary."   When it went into
syndication as reruns in the mid-fifties the syndicated version was
titled "Susie."  If memory serves me correct both versions used the same
animated opening.

The program appeard on Nick at Nite in the late 80's and the animated
opening was not used, instead they redid the opening using a montage of
scenes and the program was titled "Susie."

I don't know why I know this.

Trans-O

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:28:05 -0400
From: DR <swl2010@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Groucho Marx

I apologize if I am off-topic but for those who are not aware this
Thursday night at 8:00 eastern time Turner Classic Movies will run a one
hour "Dick Cavett Show," from 1969 with the sole guest Groucho Marx.

Trans-O

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:35:28 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-10 births/deaths

October 10th births

10-10-1900 - Helen Hayes - Washington, [removed] - d. 3-17-1993
actor: "New Penny"; "Electric Theatre"; "O'Neill Cycle"
10-10-1903 - Ronald Dawson - Johannesburg, South Africa - d. 1-24-1984
actor, writer: "Martin Kane, Private Eye"; "The Clock"
10-10-1903 - Vernon Duke - Pskov, Russia - d. 1-17-1969
broadway composer: "Mildred Baily Show"; "Good News of 1940"; "March
of Time"
10-10-1908 - Johnny Green - NYC - d. 5-15-1989
conductor: "In the Modern Manner"; "Jack Benny Program"; "Man Called X"
10-10-1908 - Margaret Barker - Baltimore,, MD - d. 4-3-1992
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
10-10-1909 - Florida Friebus - Auburndale, MA - d. 5-27-1988
actor: "Great Plays"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"
10-10-1910 - Don Hancock - Anderson, IN - d. 5-6-1980
announcer: "The Goldbergs"; "Ellery Queen"; "Vox Pop"
10-10-1911 - George Mathews m- NYC - d. 11-7-1984
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
10-10-1911 - Marion Shockley - Kansas City, MO - d. 12-14-1981
actor: Rosemary Levy "Abie's Irish Rose"; Nikki Porter "Advs. of
Ellery Queen"
10-10-1911 - Zeke Manners - San Francisco, CA - d. 10-14-2000
singer, disc jockey: "Zeke Manners and His Gang"; "Zeke Manners"
10-10-1913 - Johnny Downs - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-13-1994
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-10-1915 - Harry 'Sweets' Edison - Columbus, OH - d. 7-27-1999
jazz trumpeter: "Jubilee"; "One Night Stand"
10-10-1918 - Bobby Byrne - Columbus, OH
trombonist, bandleader: big band remote from Glen Island
10-10-1918 - Paul Dubov - Illinois - d. 9-20-1979
actor: Frank Race "Advs. of Frank Race"
10-10-1920 - Bernard Grant - The Bronx - d. 6-30-2004
actor: "Rober Kilgore"; "Big Story"
10-10-1926 - Oscar Brown, Jr. - Chicago, IL - d. 5-29-2005
singer: "Destination Freedom"
10-10-1926 - Richard Jaeckel - Long Beach, NY - d. 6-14-1997
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-10-1930 - Harold Pinter - London, England
writer, actor: "Focus on Football Pools"
10-10-1946 - Ben Vereen - Miami, FL
actor: "We Hold These Truths"
10-10-1946 - Chris Tarrant - Reading, England
writer, presenter: "Tiswas"; "OTT"

October 10th deaths

01-20-1903 - Leon Ames - Portland, IN - d. 10-10-1993
actor: "Earplay"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
01-31-1892 - Eddie Cantor - NYC - d. 10-10-1964
singer, comedian: (Banjo Eyes) "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Chase & Sanborn
Hour"
03-19-1912 - Russ Case - Hamburg, IA - d. 10-10-1964
orchestra leader: "On a Sunday Afternoon"; "Peggy Lee Show"; "Your
Hit Parade"
05-06-1915 - Orson Welles - Kenosha, WI - d. 10-10-1985
actor: Lamont Cranston/Shadow "The Shadow"; "Mercury Theatre on the Air"
05-24-1886 - Paul Paray - Treport, Normandy, France - d. 10-10-1979
conductor: "New York Philharmonic"
07-07-1915 - Yul Brynner - Vladivostock, Czarist Russia - d. 10-10-1985
actor: "As Easy as [removed]"
07-08-1910 - Jack Rubin - New York - d. 10-10-1952
writer: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "The Hardy Family"; "Hilltop House";
"The O'Neills"
07-10-1918 - Ernest Ricca - d. 10-10-1987
director: "Lorenzo Jones"; "Valiant Lady"; "Stella Dallas"; "Romance
of Helen Trent"
07-12-1890 - Joseph Latham - Bolivar, NY - d. 10-10-1970
actor: Uncle Will "Home Sweet Home"; Elmer Eeps "Just Plain Bill"
10-05-1912 - Tony Marvin - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-10-1998
announcer: "Arthur Godfrey Time"
10-23-1884 - Cesar Saerchinger - Aix-la-Chapelle, France - d. 10-10-1971
news correspondent: "Story Behind the Headlines"; "America's Town
Meeting of the Air"
11-30-1885 - Charles West - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 10-10-1943
actor: "Dramas of Youth"
12-19-1902 - Ralph Richardson - Cheltenham, England - d. 10-10-1983
actor: Doctor John H. Watson, "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"
12-24-1914 - Ralph Marterie - Naples, Italy - d. 10-10-1978
bandleader: "Marlboro Cigarettes Show"
xx-xx-1888 - Frederick Barron - Melbourne, Australia - d. 10-10-1955
actor: "Archie Andrews"; "Stepmother"; "Ma Perkins"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:59:24 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Reels for sale

I have several boxes of reels.  A few are missing
reel-listing sheets but it is clearly marked what the
reels contain.  Many are without boxes because that is
how they were stored.  There are 354 and I was asking
$300 + shipping (media mail).  I will include a reel
deck as well a guarantee that if any reel turns up
with no description, that I will try to locate it for
you.  If interested, please e-mail me off the list.
These reels go back to the late 1970's with a majority
of them accumulated furing the 1980's.  All are
recorded in 1/4-track format, 3 3/4 ips and most are
1800-feet on either Ampex or equivalent.  I stopped
using DAK and Shamrock early on, so those brands are
not well-represented.

Andy Blatt

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