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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2001 : Issue 339
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Lux Rehearsal Recordings [ Alan Bell <bella@[removed]; ]
TELL-O-TEST [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
BILL CULLEN [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
Re: Henry Morgan [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Not 'LSMFT' [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
CD's [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
WWII Russian radio drama [ khovard@[removed] ]
RE:Henry Morgan [ "Dick Lochte" <dlochte@[removed]; ]
Hi There Boys and Girls [ JayHick@[removed] ]
Jay Livingston [ JayHick@[removed] ]
I'm Back!! ... and already have a re [ "Jeff G" <jeffg@[removed]; ]
Tello Test [ Peter Kinder <pdkinder@[removed]; ]
Tello Test/Bill Hahn/WNAC [ "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed] ]
New book [ nicoll <nicoll@[removed]; ]
Wanted: Arthur Godfrey on "Suspense" [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Sister's atic [ Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed] ]
Can you help! [ Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed] ]
Life of CDRs [ ktrek@[removed] ]
Looking for Amos & Andy [ Davidinmemphis@[removed] (David) ]
TELLO-TEST QUIZ [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:27:21 -0400
From: Alan Bell <bella@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Lux Rehearsal Recordings
Robert Fells <rfells@[removed]; sez:
What's interesting about
this incident is that Cecil B. DeMille is standing there saying
nothing. The director asks CB to introduce the scene again and the
great producer-director meekly does what he is told to do. Guess Mr.
DeMille really didn't "produce" the show.
While it's certainly true that DeMille was definitely not the
producer, still, the duties you describe are those of the director.
Even if CB were the producer, [removed], assembling the talent, the
financing, generally overseeing the production, he might very well
have deferred to his DIRECTOR when it came to actually performing in
the show.
--
Alan Bell
Grandville, MI
bella@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:27:33 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: TELL-O-TEST
Marvin Miller did a similar show in Chicago on WGN. It was sponsored by
Evans Furs, heard in the early '40s.
Sandy Singer
A DATE WITH SINATRA
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:27:39 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET
This work was written by George Seaton, who also directed the film, who
also was radio's very first Lone Ranger.
Sandy Singer
A DATE WITH SINATRA
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:27:52 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: BILL CULLEN
I stand corrected--at least I started an interesting thread. I believe
Cullen was a pilot, which requires a physical every few years--his
affliction certainly wasn't a negative in his life.
Sandy Singer
A DATE WITH SINATRA
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:28:37 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Henry Morgan
On 10/21/01 11:06 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:
He had his own radio show at some point, and I have a recording of one of
them from 4/23/50. I
know this only from checking my list. I can't remember a thing about it.
He also was a guest
(with Jack Benny) on Fred Allen's last show, in June 1949. From some of
the things said in that
show, I think he may have been a regular on Allen's show for awhile.
Morgan and Allen were quite close off-stage -- Allen greatly admired
Morgan's take-no-prisoners comedy style, and made a point of supporting
his career by giving him guest exposure wherever possible.
Morgan's best work by far was his local show over WOR in the early
forties -- "Here's Morgan," in which he went on the air totally ad-lib
for fifteen minutes five nights a week, and ragged mercilessly on any
subject that came to mind, breaking up his monologues by playing odd and
unusual phonograph records. It was the very antithesis of overprocessed,
overslick, overcommercialized live-audience-and-orchestra Big Time Radio,
and Morgan became a genuine cult figure for New York radio and
advertising-industry insiders who shared his contempt for the conventions
of the broadcasting business.
Morgan moved to WJZ after the war, and eventually ended up with a
half-hour weekly show on ABC that in many ways turned into everything he
had so mercilessly ridiculed during his WOR years. It did have its
moments, though -- one that has stuck in my mind for a long time as a
moment of genuine surrealist genius was one of Morgan's stooges singing
"I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Major General" in flawless Russian.
Morgan's comedy career was derailed in June 1950 when his name was listed
in "Red Channels" and his NBC show was immediately cancelled. The "Red
Channels" listing cites him as a member of the Actor's Committee of the
Progressive Citizens of America, and accuses him of delivering speeches
on behalf of the Veterans Against Discrimination committee of the Civil
Rights Congress and for the Stop Censorship Committee. Morgan was no
Communist -- but the paranoia of that era was such that any
left-of-center activity was enough to put you under suspicion. It didn't
help that Morgan personally relished his image as a troublemaker --
making a point of insulting sponsors and network officials to their faces
and daring them to do something about it -- and it may well be that the
"Red Channels" listing was simply siezed upon as an excuse to "put him in
his place."
Morgan was able to resurrect his career as a toned-down game show
panelist later in the fifties, made occasional appearances on NBC's
"Monitor," and in later years tried to revive the "Here's Morgan" format
on local New York radio, but he never again approached the anarchic
brilliance of his early-forties work.
Elizabeth
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:29:16 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Not 'LSMFT'
RonC notes,
During one of the series of the Lone Ranger, the letters "LRFT" were
repeatedly announced until finally they were revealed by the announcer.
Hint: It was for a "send-away" item offered for Cheerios boxtops.
Presumably, this was for the Lone Ranger Frontier Town. Some of the
Frontier Town buildings could be found on the back of Cheerios, though.
That would place the broadcasts with "LRFT" in the 1948 season.
The Frontier Town was an interesting addition to the legend. A listener
with an assembled Frontier Town could "follow the action" as a story set
in the town was being broadcast. Kinda like those "crime scene diagrams"
on the back of those old Dell detective novel paperback books.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:29:32 -0400
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: CD's
I agree that there are many factors involved when determining the life of a
CD. In reality, I think it is about as many that has always existed with and
type of recording media. I will say that I have wanted a thermal printer for
about 2 years, but the price tag is just out of my reach right now. I have
no idea if it makes a difference in regards to the life of a disc, but they
sure do present a better looking result.
About CD-R's in general. There are various companies that produce this
media, some better than other, a lot like tape. There is one that I really
like though, and that's the scratch resistant black bottom cd's. These are
very nice and perhaps they are among the top quality, along with the Diamond
CD. Both claim to have a shelf life of over 100 years, but who will be
around that long enough to hold them to their word?
What seperates CD from tape is the most obvious. Everytime you play a
tape you will start to lose audio/video quality. That problem does not exist
with digital media, you get the same quality each time. Recording tape in
general is being phased out, I doubt anyone can argue with that. DVD's and
CD's will not only take over the market, and will be about the only
recording media available within the next 5-10 years. I could be worng
though, and maybe wire will return as a recording media along with
transcriptions.
Shawn
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:29:56 -0400
From: khovard@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WWII Russian radio drama
I am in contact with a woman in Moscow who has copies of scripts of
several Russian language wartime radio dramas. I will have to pay her for
copies of them. I will also have to pay someone to translate them If
enough people are interested in this project, we could share costs,
perhaps as low as $10 per person. Please let me know if you are
interested.
Howard Blue
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:32:36 -0400
From: "Dick Lochte" <dlochte@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE:Henry Morgan
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:06:41 -0400
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
I've been watching and very much enjoying Henry Morgan on the TV
series "I've Got A Secret." I know he was involved with OTR in some
way, but very little beyond that; can anyone give me more information?
Are there shows of his available?
As has been mentioned, Morgan had a very popular radio show in the
Forties. According to his autobiography, "Here's Morgan!," he started in
radio in 1931 or 32. Fred Allen was sort of a mentor to the network show
that made his reputation. It was a show with format similar to Allen's
-- one segment had Morgan bumping into people on the street, notably
Arnold Stang playing a character named Gerard, another involved skits
and spoofs. The difference was that Morgan's spoofs were considerably
more brutal than Allen's. If he satirized another radio show or a film,
he didn't just poke fun at it, he took it apart. The main reason people
tuned in, however, was to hear him insult his sponsors, which he did
with regularity. One candy bar -- O Henry, I think, but possibly Baby
Ruth -- was billed as "a meal in itself." Morgan's take: "The O Henry
candy bar is a meal in itself, but eat three of these 'meals' and your
teeth fall out." There was also a particularly gristly number he did on
the Shick Safety Razor. (Push pull, click-click, change blades that
quick.) He had a doctor standing by to patch up the announcer.
I think some of the shows are available.
Dick Lochte
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:00 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hi There Boys and Girls
Hi There Boys and Girls by Tim Hollis (Lum and Abner Society); Tim writes
about local children's TV programs. Much of the information has not been
available before. Published by Univ. Press of Mississippi, 2001, $[removed]
paperback, 380 pages (601) 432-6459. It is a capsule history from the
earliest days of radio to the early 1970's.
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:32 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jay Livingston
Jay Livingston, who died Oct 17, appeared at one of our FOTR Conventions with
Shirley Mitchell, his lady friend (later wife) at the time. He performed for
us and my wife, Karen, who sang a lot at the earlier conventions, sang "Que
Sera, Sera" to Jay Livingston. This was one of the highlights of our
conventions.
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:50 -0400
From: "Jeff G" <jeffg@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: I'm Back!! ... and already have a request.
Hi all!
After unsubscribing for the summer, I finally got around to [removed]
I'm more ready then ever to have these OTR digests pile up higher and higher
in my inbox ;)
Anyway, right now I am particularly looking for some good Christmas shows in
preparation for the holidays. What I am looking for at the moment is an
episodes of a "THE ALDRCIH FAMILY" christams show. Any year will [removed] I am
looking for a good quality show on Cassette, NOT mp3 (and don't trick me by
just recording an Mp3 onto cassette ;)
It's particularly for a friend of mine who loved the Aldrich [removed] that's
why i need an episode that's in good listening shape.
If you can help me out, I'd love to make a trade of it.
ttyl!
jeff
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:34:07 -0400
From: Peter Kinder <pdkinder@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tello Test
Bill Knowlton wrote:
Bruce Elliot and Dan McCullough did a local version of Tello Test on WOR,
New
York as I recall. It appears that Tello Test was syndicated in the manner
of,
say, TV's Romper Room, with each city have its own host or [removed];<
I don't know about the syndication of the concept, but I won $25 on Tello
Test on WWVA (Wheeling, West Virginia) as an 8 year-old in 1954. It's the
only time my mother forgave me for interrupting her on the phone -- with the
right answer. The answer, I remember -- John Paul Jones; the question, who
knows?
Peter Kinder
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:34:17 -0400
From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tello Test/Bill Hahn/WNAC
Yes, Bill Hahn is definitely still with us. I've spoken to him many times
and he graciously gave me about two hours one summer afternoon for an
interview about his career and some history on the station and Yankee
Network.
Until recently, Bill hosted a public service program on the subject of
religion for WRKO, nee WNAC.
He has a wealth of information about radio as it was. Talking with him gives
one a great inside look at radio in the days when it was a source of
entertainment and not merely electronic pablum.
Macandrew
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:34:34 -0400
From: nicoll <nicoll@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: New book
At the library last Saturday I ran across a new book:
"Don McNeill and His Breakfast Club" by John Doolittle, Published: U. of
Notre Dame Press 2001.
It has lots of photos and even a CD. The author has excellent credentials.
Will Nicoll
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:34:55 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wanted: Arthur Godfrey on "Suspense"?
OTR's good friend Martin Grams has kindly informed me that in early April
of 1950, an announcement was made on the BS show "Suspense", that Arthur
Godfrey would appear in a subsequent airing of "Suspense".
Apparently this never came about, for Martin has been unable to find any
such broadcast.
I'd like to obtain a copy of any such program if it actually did
occur. I'm also interested in a copy of the early April program where the
appearance of Mr. Godfrey is promoted. If anyone can help me with either
of these, I'll certainly appreciate it. I'm always looking for Godfrey
appearances, especially on "non-Godfrey" programs, whether commercial or
for such entities as the [removed], American Rd Cross, [removed] Air Force,
Treasury Department, Civil Defense, AFRS, etc. Many thanks.
Lee Munsick That Godfrey Guy
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:35:11 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sister's atic
Hi,
Can anyone help this lady?
You might also reply to the list so we can all digest your knowledge on the
subject.
Larry Gassman
Subject: Sister's Attic
SisterStLeo@[removed]
Dear Larry & John
I was referrred to you by a number of folks who thought you might
steer me in the right direction in my journey to find (documentary/prose)
by Maggie [removed] she do any radio shows?
I believe I heard her one night on the radio but I am at a loss as to where
to even begin my search.
Can you help?
Thanks & God Bless
Sister Shirl
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:35:32 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Can you help!
Hi,
I received this post late Sunday evening.
Larry Gassman
Pam wrote:
I live in Bakersfield CA and would like to know if there is a radio
station and time I can hear broadcasts of the OTR programs? I use to hear
them when I lived in San Diego a few years back. Really miss
them. Please help.
plindaman@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:36:56 -0400
From: ktrek@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Life of CDRs
On a related issue, I understand that while
commercially stamped CDs (I'm sure there's technical
term for them) should last for 100 years or more
assuming proper storage, the life of a CD-R is projected
at 10 years, or 15 years at the most. Yet another
reason to copy off any particularly valuable CD-Rs.
This is not necessarily true. There are three factors
for long life on CDRs. First and most important is the
dye. Thaiwanese disks use inferior dyes and should be
avoided. Never buy generic brands that don't label where
they were made. It's most likely Taiwanese. I have
switched to Japanese disks. Althought slightly more
expensive less problematic in the long run. They also
have a lower failure rate. Office Max often has HP and
Fuji disks on sale for about $[removed] for 50 pack. Second
is how they are stored. They should be stored in a cool
dark place. I store mine in a drawer in slim cases.
Never leave CDRs in your car as the extreme temperature
changes will affect the dyes. Third is how they are
handled. This should seem obvious but I am suprised at
how people treat media. Whether it be CDRs or DVDs
people do not treat them with care. CDRs are especially
vulnerable to scratches which in turn damages the
information. I am always shocked when I rent a brand new
DVD less than a week on the shelf how many scratches
have been placed on the disc from mishandling in such a
short period of time. I'm suprised that rental stores
don't have to replace more of them. If the above factors
are taken into consideration it is likely your CDRs will
last longer than your lifetime. Hope this helps!
Kevin Pearson
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:23:47 -0400
From: Davidinmemphis@[removed] (David)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Looking for Amos & Andy
I am seeking the date and/or title of an A & A episode which had
Kingfish or Andy (I forget which) taking a job as a department store
Santa and calling "Oh, Mr. Floorwalker" whenever he encounters a problem
child or parents. Can anyone help?
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:08:57 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: TELLO-TEST QUIZ
TELLO-TEST Quiz was on the air in Boston on WNAC in the 40's with
host, Fred Lang. It sometimes had a sponsor. It was broadcast from the
Kenmore Square studios 15 mins. Monday through Friday at about 7:15PM. Fred
dialed Boston area home phone numbers "scientifically selected" from the
phone book, and called several numbers each show. The station's owners son
told me that the
"scientific selection" was purely random. Prizes, as I recall, were in the
form of silver dollars and sponsor giveaways.
Tom Heathwood [removed]
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