Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #132
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 4/14/2004 10:18 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 132
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Jack's book                           [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Re: Cincinnati convention             [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  Cincinnati convention                 [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  BBC2 help needed                      [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Cincinnati Con                        [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  RE: David Rogers request for shows o  [ John <origami@[removed]; ]
  4-15 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Question on All Star Western ep       [ vigor16@[removed] ]
  1941 technology                       [ chris chandler <chrischandler84@yah ]

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:12:00 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:41:55 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jack's book

Put me down as one who found Jack French's "Private Eyelashes" a great read.
He's supplied us with some anecdotes along with factual data and put it
together in a fascinating style.  I've had lots of time to read lately and
this has been a pleasant reverie for me.  I'm improving steadily by the way.

Jim Cox

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:42:15 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Cincinnati convention

Ellen and I will also be there. We've just been very busy trying to get
ready that I have not had a lot of time to do much posting.

We arrive Thursday late afternoon. Maybe a number of us can get together
for dinner that night. I'll probably be in to dealers room setting up, so
stop by and say hello.

Fred
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:41:40 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cincinnati convention

I, chris holm (resident hot head and fierce defender of all things modern),
will be attending Cincinnati this year.  I'm looking forward to renewing old
acquaintances and spending too much money!

-chris holm

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:39:13 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  BBC2 help needed

Hi Everybody,

Peter Ford son of Glenn Ford is looking for some one to record a show on the
BBC2 at 1 [removed] west coast time, 9 [removed] England called Just Keep on Rocking.
He did an interview for it and he would love to hear a copy of it.  It is on
the net and there is a link from [removed]  Peter will be away
and will not be able to hear the show.  Is there someone in England or some
one that can make a good copy of it for him on the net.  Please contact me
off list and I will share Peter address with you.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:44:31 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cincinnati Con

Folks;

   A quick note while I'm rushing around getting ready for the convention
(and trying to get rid of this d*mned chest cold); keep an eye on the blog at:

[removed]

   ...I'll be making frequent posts throughout the convention about what's
going on, along with some pics so even if you can't make the convention, you
can join in the festivities!

   There's an RSS feed available for any agrigator, so you can have summaries
delivered directly to your desktop, or you can just visit the site throughout
the weekend to receive the updates. And feel free to post any comments you
have on the blog entries in the comment area!

         Charlie

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:32:31 -0400
From: John <origami@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: David Rogers request for shows on a
 particular date

David Rogers asked about shows on a particular date.

Not a web site as of yet, but a search through my files for April 15, if this
is what the writer had in mind.  No guarantees as to accuracy!

Abbot Costello42-10-15 Bank Robbery with Marlene Dietrich
The Great Gildersleeve 44-10-159) Gildy Looks For A Job
Sherlock Holmes 1945-10-15 #184(BR-NB)The Manor House Case
Fibber McGee and Molly46-10-15 (0486) Fibber Checks the Water Supply
The Amos 'n' Andy Show 46-10-15 Sapphire's A Wanted Criminal
Boston Blackie - 1946-10-15 - #079 - Murder at the Rodeo
Escape__47-10-15 010 Shipment of Mute Fate
Boston Blackie 47-10-15 -1 - Joe Crain, Hired Killer
Red Skelton 48-10-15 Junior's Secret
Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar 49-10-15 22 Dr. Otto Schmedlich
Richard Diamond49-10-15 The Counterfeit Case
Escape - 1949-10-15 - Ep 080 - The Sure Thing
Tales of the Texas Rangers 50-10-15_DEAD GIVE-A-WAY
Jack Benny 50-10-15_741_Jack_Dreams_He_Is_Married_To_Mary
Bright Star 10-15 (52) Susan's Cousin Emily Comes F~E56
Wild Bill Hickock 54-10-15 (0244) Satan at the Circus

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:37:02 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-15 births/deaths

April 15th births

04-15-1907 - Theodore Granick - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-21-1970
moderator: "American Forum of the Air"
04-15-1915 - Hans Conried - Baltimore, MD - d. 1-5-1982
actor: Professor Kropotkin "My Friend Irma"; Schultz "Life with Luigi"
04-15-1933 - Roy Clark - Meherrin, VA
country/western singer: "Town and Country Time"

April 15th deaths

02-22-1926 - Kenneth Williams - Islington, England - d. 4-15-1988
actor: "Hancock's Half Hour"
03-24-1910 - Richard Conte - Jersey City, NJ - d. 4-15-1975
actor: "Theatre Guild on the Air"; "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Hollywood Star
Playhouse"
04-01-1886 - Wallace Beery - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-15-1949
host: "Shell Chateau"
09-18-1905 - Greta Garbo - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 4-15-1990
actress: "Kate Smith Show"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:42:37 -0400
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Question on All Star Western ep

Hi all,

I would like some authoritative information.  Is there a way to varify my
query below?

I was listening to an episode of All star Western theater.  It featured a
singer named Colleen Summers.  Is this the same woman who was later Les
Paul's wife and fellow artist and a great singer in her own right?  Is
there a date for this program airing?  I see by, at least one listing,
she spells her name Collean.  Is this correct?  It shouldn't be hard to
varify with that spelling.  Thanks much

McCoy

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:20:18 -0400
From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  1941 technology

Ed Kindred [removed]

the difference in attitudes of performers on Dec
7, 1941 versus the extended coverage of 9/11.
I think one word covers it. TECHNOLOGY

Ed's [removed] were no satellites or other
high-tech gizmos in December 1941, but it would be a
mistake to believe the technological capabilities of
the day were so rudimentary that they prohibited quick
response to news events.

The networks were quite capable of mounting a fast
response to a breaking story--they'd done it
repeatedly in the three years since Munich, and the
elements were all in place the afternoon of Pearl
Harbor.  NBC had Honolulu up and on the air barely
90-minutes after the attack, for example.  But for
some reason, as we've discussed here before, the
nets--and particularly NBC--simply *didn't* go
wall-to-wall once the immediate crisis had passed.
NBC did put on a nearly two-hour, well thought-out,
wide-ranging crisis broadcast starting at 11:00 PM,
featuring news and analysis, a round-table discussion
with correspondents across the country, newspaper
editorials, remotes from several points in Central and
South America, and so on.  CBS was airing much the
same thing in the late-night period.  There's not a
single technical reason this stuff couldn't have been
on the air earlier, when people were still awake.

The two choices seem to be that some network bigshot
decreed the prime-time schedule must continue
[removed], alternately, that the very idea of
completely, indefinitely suspending normal operations
simply hadn't occurred to anybody, as yet.  It's
important to remember the early-war news extravaganzas

mostly occurred in the middle of the night, often on
weekends, and far from American shores.  It was easy
for the networks to get their kicks, have their cake,
and eat it, too--carry on in full-crisis mode,
without having to interrupt any popular or profitable
programs, and then revert to normal programming by
lunchtime, indeed often by sunrise!

Pearl Harbor was the first moment America itself was
the subject of massive Axis attack; it didn't happen
in the wee hours, and it wasn't immediately clear how
bad the damage had been.  It's quite possible network
brass simply didn't know quite *how* to react, and did
they best they could given the formulas and
conventions they'd used up to that time--no matter how
'wrong' it sounds to us today.

As late as the June, 1944 invasion of France, CBS was
*still* trying to use the old template of continuing
with regular programs, while inserting a little bit of
news here and there--only to find their butts kicked
by NBC, which basically on that day reinvented the
concept of a big-time broadcast news spectacular. CBS
didn't make the mistake again, and for the rest of the
war, straight into the television era, through a
Presidential assassination and a couple of wars, the
NBC 1944 model is that one that's "stuck" when big
news hits.

chris

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