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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 110
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
no more tape [ edcarr@[removed] ]
4-7 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Castile Soap [ "Tim Lones" <tlones@[removed]; ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Re: Jack Benny/Whistler [ "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed]; ]
Public Service Announcements + oleom [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
Fiddler/Whistler [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
Sci Fi Theater [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
Jack Benny/Whistler [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
See The Butter Fly! [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
I swan [ "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@ezlinknet ]
National Recording Registry [ Art Chimes <achimes@[removed]; ]
OTR tributes? [ "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed] ]
84 charing cross road [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
Fels-Naptha soap [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
I [removed] [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Challenge of the Yukon [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
Jack Benny Imitator Eddie Carrol in [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
Thanks for the help [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:57:14 -0400
From: edcarr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: no more tape
hi
this is for those who still use reel to reel, as you may or
may not know no new tape is being made according to
a newspaper article,
if you need tape i can put you in touch with a person
selling blank ampex 641-1800 or blank shrink wrapped
631-1200ft at $3 ea, mix or match, min 50 reels
please serious inquiry only
ed
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:59:28 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 4-7 births/deaths
April 7th births
04-07-1893 - Irene Castle - New Rochelle, NY - d. 1-25-1969
actress: Best Dressed Woman "Life of Irene Castle"; "Twenty Questions"
04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
04-07-1897 - Walter Winchell - NYC - d. 2-20-1972
news-gossip caster: "Lucky Strike Dance Hour"; "Jergens Journal"
04-07-1899 - Robert Casasesus - Paris, France - d. 9-19-1972
pianist: "Telephone Hour"; "Oklahoma City Symphony Orchestra"
04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
04-07-1905 - Murray Bolen - MN - d. 10-22-1995
producer, director: "Father Knows Best"; "Mayor of the Town";
"Railroad Hour"
04-07-1908 - Percy Faith - Toronto, Canada - d. 2-9-1976
conductor: "Carnation Contented Hour"; "Pause That Refreshes on the
Air"
04-07-1915 - Billie Holliday - Baltimore, MD - d. 7-17-1959
singer: "Artie Shaw Band"
04-07-1915 - Stanley Adams - NYC - d. 4-27-1977
writer: "My Friend Irma"
04-07-1916 - Anthony Caruso - Frankfort, IN - d. 4-4-2003
actor: "This Is Your FBI"
04-07-1918 - Peanuts Hucko - Syracuse, NY - d. 6-19-2003
jazz clarinetist: "Swing Shift"; "I Sustain These Wings"; "Doctor
Jazz"
April 7th deaths
01-31-1921 - John Agar - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-2002
actor: "Big Show"
02-23-1899 - Norman Taurog - Chicago, IL - d. 4-7-1981
film director: "Biography in Sound"; "Bud's Bandwagon"
04-01-1912 - Lou Merrill - Canada - d. 4-7-1963
actor: Thomas Hyland "Crime Classics"; Aaron Saul "Point Sublime"
04-06-1884 - Walter Huston - Toronto, Canada - d. 4-7-1950
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Cavalcade of America"
04-07-1901 - Gavin Gordon - Chicora, MS - d. 4-7-1983
actor: Doctor Norfolk "Brenthouse"
04-16-1898 - Marian Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-7-1961
commedienne: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Kaltenmeyer's Kindergarten"
04-26-1918 - Helen Burgess - Portland, OR - d. 4-7-1937
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-13-1911 - Maxine Sullivan - Homestead, PA - d. 4-7-1987
vocalist: "Night Life"
06-22-1902 - Phil Duey - Macy, IN - d. 4-7-1982
singer: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Leo Reisman Orchestra";
"Happy Bakers"
09-01-1893 - Betty Blythe - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-7-1972
actress: "The Whistler"; "This Is Your FBI"; "Let George Do It"
11-14-1914 - Ken Carson - Colgate, OK - d. 4-7-1994
singer: (Lustre Cream Shampoo commercial) "Day in the Life of Dennis
Day"
11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"; "Martha Deane"
11-29-1905 - Chester Erskine - Hudson, NY - d. 4-7-1986
film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-30-1873 - Frederic William Wile - La Porte, IN - d. 4-7-1941
commentator: "Political Situation in Washington"
xx-xx-xxxx - Grace Coppin - d. 4-7-1993
actress: Maude "The Life of Riley"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 01:29:18 -0400
From: "Tim Lones" <tlones@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Castile Soap
As a Night grocery stocker at a local grocery store in Canton, [removed] can
say there is definetly such a thing as Castile Soap. My store carries
Kirk's CoCo Hardwater Castile-similar to Lava [removed]'s has been around
since 1839
Tim Lones
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:28:55 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:29:11 -0400
From: "Brian L Bedsworth" <az2pa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Jack Benny/Whistler
Speaking of Benny, I was listening to an episode of The Whistler, and
they mentioned a parody of that show by benny called The Fiddler. Can
someone give me the broadcast date for that show?
There was at least one show this parody was performed, 20 Oct 1946, on the
radio (I believe it was later redone during the Bob Crosby era, but I can't
find a cite for that offhand), and then again for TV on 27 Jan 1957.
Whoops; just got a cite for another radio airing: 24 Feb 1952. Not a Crosby
ep, though.
Found another: 26 Feb 1950. I still think there's a Crosby version around,
but can't prove it [removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:05 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Public Service Announcements + oleomargarine
I've been listening to a lot of YTJohnnyDollar. During times when it was
sustaining they broadcast little informative lectures on democracy, history,
the Constitution, prejudice, etc. I've heard such announcements on other
programs as well. The quality of many of them was quite good. I wonder
if anyone has compiled those announcements. It reminds us of a service we
don't get anymore with relaxation of broadcast requirements on both TV and
Radio.
= ===========================
Ted Kneebone wrote:
<Now, if you go to a restaurant and order "oleomargarine", the waitresses
don't know what you are talking about!>
In the SF Bay Area, a gourmet ghetto, you have to ask for butter, since they
give you olive oil to dunk your bread in. <grin>
I have memories of being jealous that my best friend got to pinch the berry
in the margarine bag. My father had a luncheonette/restaurant and refused
to have margarine in our house despite my pleadings. We were a sweet butter
house.
After years of switching to margarine from butter it really burned me up to
learn that research has concluded that butter is healthier after all. Now I
have a sweet butter house again.
--Irene
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:13 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fiddler/Whistler
Mike writes:
Speaking of Benny, I was listening to an episode of The Whistler, and
they mentioned a parody of that show by benny called The Fiddler. Can
someone give me the broadcast date for that show?
10/20/46 (radio)
2/26/50 (radio)
1/27/57 (television)
4/21/64 (television)
Jack was environmentally-friendly and recycled liberally.
--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:30:54 -0400
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sci Fi Theater
I was recently reading about a show called "Sci Fi Theater". I was
interested by this quote:
"As with many new series, information on this series is not easy to find."
Why is that? My question is not just about this one show in particular, but
more recent shows in general. Why should there be less known about a show
that ran from 1989-90 than about a show that ran twenty or thirty years
before that?
Love as always, David Rogers
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:31:14 -0400
From: wilditralian@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny/Whistler
04-06-05
In issue #109, Mike Illoman asked for the date of the Benny episode
called, "The Fiddler". It was 10-26-46. Rochester was absent for that
one.
Regards,
Jim Arva
- ------------------
James H. Arva
HOME: 201 Short St.; Harrisburg, PA 17109; (717) 545-5709
E-MAIL: wilditralian@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:24:16 -0400
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: See The Butter Fly!
Ted Kneebone, speaking of oleomargerine with artificial color, observed,
Eventually, the legislature rescinded the law about colored oleo. I
think the purpose of the prohibition was to help the dairy farmers keep
up their sales of butter -- which was also artificially colored! I think
real butter is not yellow, sort of an off-white.
In 1948, we were living in Seattle. Among what we listened to was Fred
Waring, and probably not as a result, my father picked up a Waring
Blender. We had many interesting with that gadget, and one of them was
when we tried to use it to make whipped cream. We poured cold cream into
it and turned it on. It whirred away, until suddenly it went "ka-chunk!"
We immediately turned it off, and there was a chunk of butter floating
in buttermilk. It was yellowish, though not as bright as that stuff we
bought at the market.
naturally, we used it right away, kids being kids.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:19:18 -0400
From: "Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: I swan
In reference to Chet Norris comment"
> RE I SWAN didnt't LUM or ABNER used to say that all the time?
> chet norris
I have (I think) all the episodes of Lum and Abner in circulation and
yes I do recall them using that expression. Which reminds me, I recall
my mother using an expression, " I swan to goodness, if that don't
beat all". This was in the hills of southern Ohio back in the early '40's.
See you at the Cincy Con.
Don Dean - N8IOJ
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:24:52 -0400
From: Art Chimes <achimes@[removed];
To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: National Recording Registry
The Library of Congress has announced 50 items that will be added to its
National Recording Registry of key audio recordings of enduring value.
The complete list is at [removed].
Several items are of particular interest to OTR devotees, including --
9. NBC radio broadcast coverage of Charles A. Lindbergh's arrival and
reception in Washington, [removed] (1927)
NBC radio's June 11, 1927, coverage of the arrival of Charles A.
Lindbergh in Washington, [removed], was a landmark technical and journalistic
achievement for the fledgling network. Radio reporters were stationed at
the three locations in the city to provide successive, live descriptions
of the pilot's arrival: the Washington Navy Yard; the procession along
Pennsylvania Avenue; and his reception at the foot of the Washington
Monument by President Calvin Coolidge. The young radio network captured
the voices of President Coolidge and Colonel Lindbergh as they spoke to
the nation.
21. Edward R. Murrow broadcast from London (1940)
Edward R. Murrow's eyewitness news broadcasts of the Battle of Britain
presented the emotions and sounds of a city under siege to audiences
throughout the United States. One of the most remembered of that series
of 1940 broadcasts was on September 21 when Murrow dispassionately
described the bombing of London from a rooftop during the blitzkrieg.
22. "We Hold These Truths," radio broadcast (1941)
Commissioned to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Bill of Rights,
writer/producer Norman Corwin's "We Hold These Truths, a drama exploring
American values, aired one week after the invasion on Pearl Harbor. The
broadcast was carried on all four radio networks simultaneously to an
audience of more than 60 million listeners, roughly half of the [removed]
population at the time. It was the largest audience in history to listen
to a dramatic presentation.
28. Jack Benny radio program, March 28, 1948
Jack Benny's career started in vaudeville, but he soon mastered other
show business formats, including radio, television and motion pictures.
Benny is best remembered as the parsimonious straight man to his regular
casts on radio and television. In the 1948 skit broadcast, Benny was held
up by a thief. When asked by the robber, "Your money or your life," Benny
paused and replied, "I'm thinking it over."
-Art-
(Me personally, I'm glad to see that Tom Lehrer was recognized.)
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:35:39 -0400
From: "Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR tributes?
Does anyone know of any OTR-related statues/monuments/places? To be more
specific, I'm talking about things like: Benny's statue in Waukegan,
Costello's statue in Paterson, NJ, A War of the Worlds plaque in Grover's
Mill, and I believe a Lum & Abner store in Pine Ridge, AK. Those are the
ones that I know of, I was just wondering if there any more tributes to OTR
around the country.
I'm new to the listserv, so if this is too obscure for general discussion,
please feel free to respond to me individually. Thanks [removed]
Mark Wuellner
mwuellne@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:04 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: 84 charing cross road
"Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; writes:
I was more than happy some years ago to attend the theatrical version of
84 CHARING CROSS ROAD, in which the two leads sit on opposite sides of the
stage reading the letters that make up the narrative.
I hadn't known that's what 84 Charing Cross Road was about! Now I
understand better the version done on BBC radio's "I'm Sorry I Haven't
a Clue," called "84 Chicken Cross Road," in which the teams improvise
"lost" correspondences between famous people.
Kermyt
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:31 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fels-Naptha soap
The notes about castile soap reminded me of the soap my mother used for
laundry. It was Fels-Naptha. She had a Maytag wringer washer, washboard,
and two big rinsing tubs.
To get ready for the Monday wash, she used a cheese grater to shred the
Fel-Naptha into the washer. The soap had a very pungent smell. Even if we
hadn't heard the sound of the washing machine, the smell of the soap told us
it was wash day!
And that jogs my memory about "bath night." Dad turned on the water heater
Saturdays and Mondays. Saturday night was the time for our weekly bath. I
guess that must have been a common practice. I don't recall anyone
complaining!
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:45 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: I [removed]
After Lum 'n Abner came Bill Goodwin. He was the announcer for Burns and
Allen show. At one time Swan soap was their sponsor. Goodwin worked his
commercials into every episode of the program. So "I swan" became a common
expression in conversation of the day, the 1940s.
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:53:59 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Challenge of the Yukon
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I recall listening to "Challenge of the Yukon" along with two of my cousins.
The younger cousin was 6 years younger than I. He misunderstood the
sponsor's products as "Paper Cup Wheat and Paper Cup Rice".
See you in Cincinnati -- Please Wear Your Name Badges.
Happy Taping -
Ken Piletic - Streamwood, Illinois
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:54:12 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny Imitator Eddie Carrol in Whittier,
CA
The latest Eddie Carrol siting. This guy gets good PR.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
[removed],1413,207~12026~2800102,[removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:56:09 -0400
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Thanks for the help
Thanks to all who responded to my question about identifying the voices of
secondary characters. Many of the tips I have yet to explore, but I had a
breakthrough this evening when I looked through my video collection and
found I had "The Big Baby Jesus" episode of Dragnet. I watched it and sure
enough there was the Harry Bartell I knew from photographs and there he
was again in the voice I knew from so many radio shows. Thanks, Bob Slate,
for the information on the Dragnet show. Now I know the voice of Harry
Bartell.
Michael Leannah
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