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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 82
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Another CD storage solution           [ Henry Howard <hbhoward@[removed] ]
  Re: CD Envelopes                      [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
  Re: old TV shows                      [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  re: Lights Out Question               [ Gerald Wright <gdwright@[removed] ]
  Cincinnati OTR con hotel data         [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  Holmes & Obler Questions              [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Audience bridging the gap             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  Shows not quite available             [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  RE: how many early 30s Holmes really  [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Line-up for Golden Age of Radio Sund  [ Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed]; ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
  Re: Early Holmes                      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: OTR in Maine                      [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 01:09:33 -0500
From: Henry Howard <hbhoward@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Another CD storage solution

Paper sleeves with windows, in multiple bright colors,
are available from Super Walmarts.  (may be regular
Wallmarts too.

          Henry Howard
radiodrama digest moderator
     [removed]
   audio drama skills training

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 01:10:04 -0500
From: Shenbarger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: CD Envelopes
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In a message dated 3/5/2004 Matthew Bullis wrote:

Hello, someone posted about the slim jewel cases. What I also recommend are
those CD envelopes with the clear window in the front. It has a flap to
close it, and that is on the bottom, and they're also thinner than the
plastic slim cases. They are also good for mailing cd's, being of less
weight. You probably won't be able to find them in stores, so you may have
to order online, but I don't know what they're called. It took me forever to
find mine from CompUSA, and I believe that I had to call them.

They are available from Office Max. A box of 100 5" x 5" envelopes cost $8 I
believe--Columbian # CO850. I suspect you could get them from other office
supply stores. I have used these for mailing exclusively the last year and
store
many of my OTR discs in them. I never liked the thin boxes.

Don Shenbarger

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 01:30:11 -0500
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: old TV shows

Penne Yingling started a message with a quote from one I posted. Then went
on to talk about find old TV shows to buy. Back in 1969 I bought a video
tape recorder and started recording shows back then. They are all in black
and white and the quality is a little fuzzy, but many of the shows are not
available anywhere else.

I have been selling them under the heading of Time Travel Videos. I think
there is a heading for them on my web site, if not, email me and I'll send
you a list.

About two years ago, I met a TV collector that had tons of shows on 16mm
films. We worked out an arrangement and I've been transferring those shows
and they ARE on my web site. This past year, I've work out arrangements
with two more collectors, so the variety of shows have been growing.

Some are rare, like the second broadcast of Peter Pan with Mary Martin.

On the radio side, two other collectors and myself purchased hundreds of
transcription discs. It takes time, but I've been working on getting those
to CD. They are not on my web site yet, but I'll have some of the CDs with
me at Cincinnati.

My original post talked about going back in time and just listening to the
old shows. Now I'd like to use that time machine to just stop time and use
that time to get all these discs and films transferred. In addition to OTR,
my wife and I run a video production and duplicating business and every
time I think our business is slowing down and I might get a chance to
transfer some more discs, some client sends me a big order. I'm not
complaining. The video business is what pays the rent, but I would like a
little more time to spend on my hobby.

Fred
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 01:32:02 -0500
From: Gerald Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Lights Out Question

George Aust asked:

I have a "Lights Out" episode entitled "Nobody Died". The tape is from
Metacom and is dated only 1939. The only log that I can find ( Jerry
Haendiges) shows "Nobody Died" as being from 12-9-36 and also that it is
not available. I can't find that it was repeated later as some other
scripts were. Anybody know something about this?

A few points the episode you have. First it may have a Lights Out 
opening and closing, but it is actually from the Arch Oboler's Plays 
series and was broadcast 16 Dec 1939 as the 39th episode. Many of the 
Oboler's Plays episodes have had "Lights Out" openings and closings 
attached. Second the "na" preceding an episode in Jerry's logs only 
indicates that he does not have it in his collection. The same episode 
may be available from other collectors.

Gerry Wright
ZoneZebra Productions
San Francisco

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:39:40 -0500
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cincinnati OTR con hotel data

I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet (I'm a
bit behind in reading the Digest) but as of March 6
there are no more rooms left at the Best Western hotel
where the Cincinnati OTR convention is being held next
month. I was able to get a room at the nearby Baymont
Inn and Suites North, which is on the very next
street, according to the map, but have no idea how
many rooms they have left.

If anyone else planning to go to Cincinnati still
hasn't booked a room, I'd suggest checking on rooms at
the Baymont. If there are no more left, and people
plan to look for other hotels online, I'd suggest
putting in W. Cresentville Road (zip code 45246) as a
nearby street (and/or Dixie Hwy, which intersects
same). That will at least bring up a list of hotels
relatively near the Best Western.

Rick

[removed] I've never stayed at the Baymont, so can't speak
for the quality of the hotel, but the room rates are
comparable to those at the best Western (at least
through [removed]).

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:40:05 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Holmes & Obler Questions

"Tim Hughes" <rekokut@[removed]; asked:
how many early 1930s Sherlock Holmes really exist?  A handful are
listed, but they seem to be mislabels of the same two episodes.  Do
more than these two episodes exist?

Can't give a definitive answer, but I recall seeing a number - way
more than two - of those being traded, though I didn't pay much
attention, being a fan of the Rathbone version. I'll try to keep my
eyes open.

George Aust <austhaus1@[removed]; wondered:
I have a "Lights Out" episode entitled "Nobody Died". The tape is
>from Metacom and is dated only 1939. The only log that I can find (
Jerry Haendiges) shows "Nobody Died" as being from 12-9-36 and also
that it is not available. Anybody know something about this?

The copy I have is labeled 39/12/16, for what that's worth.
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:40:38 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Audience bridging the gap

Mark Kinsler writes:

As I muse on into the night, it occurs to me that a studio audience at a
live radio show--or at one of the recreations of old radio shows held at OTR
conventions--can probably divorce their ears and their eyes, with the eyes
watching the people at the microphones as the ears and the mind follow the
script and build the mental image.

On my recent trip to Los Angeles, the one person I was able to visit was Ray
Erlenborn, sound man extraordinaire, and his delightful wife, Meridy.  As we
talked, I commented that in watching radio recreations, I tend to watch the
sound effects person the most.  Having a technical bent, I am always curious
how
the various sounds are created.  However, Ray and Meridy said that *most*
people watch the sound effects person.  The people at the mike are just
standing
there reading scripts, but the sound effects person is often in motion,
creating effects or setting up for the next one.

I came home from one SPERDVAC convention and said to Dan, "Hey, do you know
how they make the sound of a match strike?"  He said that he didn't, and I
demonstrated by tearing a little piece of paper in half.  Don't know how
impressed
he was, but I thought it was pretty cool.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:40:53 -0500
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Shows not quite available

Someone wrote:

I'd go back for a day or two even without a
tape recorder just to get a chance to hear and see some programs that
aren't available any more.

One of the nice things about the Benny show is that even if you don't have a
recording, the characters are so well-defined that you can imagine a lot by
just reading the scripts.  My recent research felt a lot like listening to the
lost shows in double-speed.  I don't know if this works as well with other
shows, but it certainly does with the Benny characters.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 04:06:23 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE:  how many early 30s Holmes really exist?

Tim Hughes wrote:

I have a question- maybe Elizabeth can answer this question- how many early
1930s Sherlock Holmes really exist?  A handful are listed, but they seem to
be mislabels of the same two episodes.  Do more than these two episodes
exist?

I  don't know how many episodes of the series actually exist but I have the
following episodes.

32-05-19 The Final Problem - Richard Gordon-Leigh Lovel
33-01-18  The Final Problem aka Murder by Proxy - Richard Gordon-Leigh Lovel
34-11-11   The Hebraic Breastplate - Luis Hector-Leigh Lovel
36-05-30 The Devil's Foot  aka The Cornish Horror- Luis Hector-Harry West
36-06-06 The Armchair Solution - Luis Hector-Harry West

Announcer:  Joseph Bell
Sponsor:  G Washington Coffee
Network:  NBC

As Tim mentioned the first two are identical.   The 1/18/33 date is
verified.  Although that episode is often identified as 'Murder by Proxy' it
is announced at the beginning as 'The Final Problem.'

There was a program on 5/19/32 but it is usually noted as 'Title Unknown'.
It is possible that the 1933 program was a repeat but that seems unlikely
since there is a teaser for the next program which is identical on both of
the episodes I have.

-Irene

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 04:34:52 -0500
From: Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Line-up for Golden Age of Radio Sunday March
 07

Tune in to the Golden Age of Radio - WBAI-NY [removed] FM, Sunday night from 7-9
pm for a tribute to Harry Bartell.  The line-up:

Escape - 2/10/47  Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge
Adventures of Nero Wolfe -  #23  3/30/51 The Tell-Tale Ribbon
Fort Laramie #22 - 6/24/56  Loving Cup
Suspense - 12/09/54  On a Country Road

Streaming on the web at [removed] or link
from WBAI's home page [removed].

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:41:04 -0500
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi friends,

Before I get into this week's broadcasts, as promised last week, this weeks
broadcast will feature a tribute to our friend, Harry Bartell.  Many of you
saw Stewart Wright's wonderful tribute to Harry on this Digest last week.
Stewart has revised and expanded that terrific tribute.  To see it, you may
go to [removed]  This is
a definite "Must See!"  Also, in case you weren't aware, in addition to
Harry being a great actor, he was also a professional photographer.  We did
a tribute to Gunsmoke last year and Harry gave me several publicity
photographs of the Gunsmoke cast in full costume.  There is also commentary
by Harry concerning the events surrounding the pictures.  To see these neat
pictures, you may go to [removed]   There are links to
both on the Olde Tyme Network section.

Here is this week's line-up for the week of 3-7-04 on my Olde Tyme Radio
[removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
streaming RealAudio at [removed]

Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

We look forward to having you join us!

	Jerry

Here's this week's lineup:

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

Memorial Tribute to Harry Bartell

ESCAPE
Episode 18  12-10-47  "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge"
Stars: Harry Bartell and Louie Van Rooten
Narrators: William Conrad and Jay Johnstone

VIOLENCE
Audition Show  5-8-52  "The Case of Arthur Bowman"
Stars Harry Bartell as Dr. Richard Morley

ESCAPE
Episode 85  11-15-49  "Three Skeleton Key"
Stars: Elliott Reid, William Conrad and Harry Bartell as Auguste

DRAGNET
Episode 151  5-1-52  "Big Safe"
Stars: Jack Webb with Harry Bartell as Joe's Partner
=======================================

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

LONG JOHN NEBEL
1966    "The Flying Saucer Story"
John on WOR (NYC) in the 50's and 60's with guests discussing UFO's.
Maybe the 1st radio "reality" show

THE SIX SHOOTER
NBC    5-6-54    "Anna Nordquist"
Stars James Stewart and featuring a small part by Harry Bartell who passed
away 2-56-04.

BOB AND RAY PRESENT NBC
NBC    2-1-51
Bob Elliott and Ray Goulding feature "Jack Headstrong- All American,
American"
========================================

THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

Escape
CBS    6/30/50    “Blood Bath”

Gangbusters
“Case Of The Red Hot Readers”

Mr. President
ABC    1/23/49    “Woodrow Wilson”

The Fat Man
ABC    10/3/47    “A Window For Murder”

Vic And Sade
1/24/44    “Vic Is Sleeping On The Couch”

Little Orphan Annie
?/?/1936    # 1164
====================================

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
shows.

            Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

  [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
  Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Those photographs taken by Harry Bartell at Knotts Berry Farm
were _originally_ posted on The Nostalgia Pages at:

[removed]

...where we applied to Harry's original scans the copyright information along
with Harry's personal rememberances which was written for us, and later used
elsewhere. It was surprisingly difficult for me to convince Harry to make the
photos [removed] told me he didn't think anyone would be interested in
seeing them.  --cfs3]

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:36:44 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Early Holmes

On 3/7/04 12:18 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

I have a question- maybe Elizabeth can answer this question- how many early
1930s Sherlock Holmes really exist?  A handful are listed, but they seem to
be mislabels of the same two episodes.  Do more than these two episodes
exist?

I believe that the most commonly-encountered of these early Holmes
programs, the 1933 Gordon-Lovell episode, came from a 12" 33 1/3 test
pressing recorded for the American Federation for the Blind as an
experiment conducted as part of an early talking-books project. There's
no information available on whether additional programs were recorded as
part of this project.

However, it *is* known that the entire 1932-33 season of the G.
Washington Coffee series was recorded off the NBC line by RCA Victor and
was distributed on 14" and 16" Victrolac transcriptions to markets not
served by the live broadcasts. About two years ago I confirmed that an
original wooden shipping crate containing discs from this series,
including several complete programs from October thru December 1932,  did
exist in private hands outside the OTR community but I was unable to
negotiate access. I have no idea what became of these recordings, and am
no longer in contact with the owner.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:38:02 -0500
From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: OTR in Maine
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Hi!

I just wanted to thank Louie Johnson for his very nice comments concerning THE
CLASSIC RADIO SHOWS that air on NEWSTALK WLOB (AM 1310[removed]) on Sunday
evenings.  Our 4-hour program airs from 6-10pm following the syndicated
TWILIGHT ZONE at 5pm.

My name is Gary Dixon and I'm the host and co-producer of the CLASSIC RADIO
SHOWS. What began as a way to "counterprogram" talk-show reruns and Sunday
night sporting events took off beyond our wildest dreams!

JJ Jeffrey, WLOB'S owner and operations manager, also has a fondness for this
type of programming.  Much to our [removed] of all ages like it
too!  Since we began the show in March of 2003, the station has received
dozens of emails and phone calls.  Every listener has a [removed]
enjoy the dramas, others like westerns or the horror shows, and we always get
terrific feedback about JACK BENNY!

Whenever possible, we try to air the original commercials that are included in
the shows.

While I'd love to host and produce this type of programming 5 nights a
[removed] 5 to 6 or 6 to [removed] realize that most radio stations aren't
interested in interrupting their syndicated programming for an episode of
GUNSMOKE, DRAGNET or SUSPENSE (even if they could pitch the show to a local
advertiser or two).  But when you consider how many people are heading home
from work or would love a pleasant diversion from the "doom and gloom" news
[removed] know this type of format would be an excellent alternative.

Thanks again for writing, Louie.

Sincerely,

Gary Dixon
Host/Co-Producer
THE CLASSIC RADIO SHOWS
NEWSTALK---WLOB (AM 1310[removed])
Portland, ME 04103
newstalkwlob@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:38:22 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

3/7

1933 - CBS debuted Marie the Little French Princess which had a run of
two years.

1944 - Norman Corwin hosted a program titled, Columbia Presents Corwin
on the CBS network this day.

3/8

1925 - Bernard McFadden was a physical culturist who had a radio show in
New York City. But not for long. McFadden failed to show up for his
daily morning program, causing a young, studio engineer, John Gambling,
to ad-lib on the air for a solid hour. As a result, the station (WOR)
decided to give Gambling the morning announcer's job. John Gambling
stayed at WOR for many years, then turned the mike over to his son, who,
finally, turned the program over to his son ... all named John. Mr.
Gambling's Rambling with Gambling program attracted tri-state (New York,
New Jersey, Connecticut) audiences in record numbers for over 70 years
on the 50,000 watt talk-radio powerhouse at 710 AM on your radio dial
from New York each morning.

3/9

1945 - Those Websters debuted on CBS. Willard Waterman starred as George
Webster.

3/10

1922 - Variety magazine greeted readers with the front-page headline
that read, "Radio Sweeping Country - 1,000,000 Sets in Use."

1955 - The last broadcast of The Silver Eagle was heard.

3/12

1933 - Eight days after he was inaugurated, [removed] President Franklin
Delano Roosevelt presented his first presidential address to the nation.
It was the first of what were called Roosevelt's famous Fireside Chats.
The name, incidentally, was coined by newsman, Robert Trout. He thought
that the President sounded as if he was sitting with us in living rooms
all over the nation next to a roaring fire, just telling it like it was.

3/13

1923 - A great improvement in radio receivers was advertised. The new
models had a concealed speaker and eliminated the need for headphones,
which were considered a nuisance because they were so heavy to wear and
messed up hairdos. The new radios were also said to have a 'foolproof'
design.

Joe

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