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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2007 : Issue 348
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: Fibber & Mollie's Christmas Albu [ "JEFFREY DAVIS" <JDavis3153@[removed] ]
bayerische rundfunk [ "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed]; ]
bayerische rundfunk [ "Louie Johnson" <louiejohnson1@veri ]
Bayerisch Rundfunk [ <vzeo0hfk@[removed]; ]
An interesting discovery [ Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed]; ]
Re: Bayerische Rundfunk [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Bayerische Rundfunk [ "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@sbcglob ]
12-12 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
THE AFTERNOON SHOW [ DurangoKid@[removed] ]
Re: bayerische rundfunk [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
Re: Der Bayerische Rundfunk [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Fibber McGee & Molly [ "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@m ]
Matching Buttons [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed] ]
The Bigger Broadcast [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
RE: Bayerische Rundfunk [ Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed] ]
RE: Eerie Stories, transcriptions [ Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed] ]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:35:23 -0500
From: "JEFFREY DAVIS" <JDavis3153@[removed];
To: "OTR Roundtable" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Fibber & Mollie's Christmas Album
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In answer to Bob Curti's question as to where he could find the Fibber McGee
Christmas Album (digital or otherwise), you can usually find a hard copy on
eBay. I got mine there several years ago and then converted it to mp3 by
recording the album from my turntable at 33 1/3 rpm and then, using software,
converted the speed prior to mp3 encoding. I would be happy to email a copy
of the mp3.
Happy Holidays!
Jeff
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:48:43 -0500
From: "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: bayerische rundfunk
In OTR Digest V2007 #347 Martin Grams asks about bayerische rundfunk.
So far as I know this is not a character or a production staff member in a
OTR program but is the public broadcasting organization in the German state
of Bavaria. It was founded in the forties following WWII.
Best regards,
Art Funk
Art's Militaria
(813) 840-9606
website: [removed]
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:49:06 -0500
From: "Louie Johnson" <louiejohnson1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: bayerische rundfunk
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Martin Grams wrote:
came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk, who was apparently
Bayerische Rundfunk = Bavarian Broadcasting
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:49:15 -0500
From: <vzeo0hfk@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bayerisch Rundfunk
Martin,
Bayerisch Rundfunk is not a person, it's the Bavarian Broadcasting authority
in Germany
Howard Blue
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:00 -0500
From: Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: An interesting discovery
I'm always appreciative of Michael Biel's detailed posts to the digest. I'm
more "slip-shod" in my approach and often don't bother to go into deep
detail, but I still impart information as best I can. Michael Biel's detailed
email about how to track down the dates by using the matrix numbers and other
info reminded me of an interesting bit of information:
Before electrical recording, all recording was done acoustically (sp?). Thus,
if a performer or an orchestra wished to be recorded, they would have to sing
or play in front of a large horn that would send the signal through the
apparatus to the recording head. In order to make as many recordings
available as possible, there were often 5 or 10 recording devices placed
before the performers and the discs were all cut with the performer "yelling"
at all the horns.
When the recording was released (usually a 78 or 80 rpm recording), the label
would indicate which recording machine was used. Such as A, B, C or 10B, 10C,
etc. About 10 years ago a recording engineer posed the question: Is it
possible to get stereo out of an early accoustic recording? He had a number
of Erico Caruso recordings of the same song. Each label had a different
matrix alphabet number. A, C, D, and E. The engineer figured that at least 4
recording horns with machines were set up to catch Caruso's song. This
engineer decided to hook up two modern turntables with variable control. He
then placed two of the Caruso discs on the turntables. He chose A and D,
assuming that the two horns would be located far enough from each other as to
"hear" Caruso from a different angle. With some experimentation the engineer
was able to get the two discs in sync. VIOLA! STEREO SOUND! I heard that
final experiment and, for the first time, I heard Caruso singing in stereo.
All this because some engineer was bright enough to figure out the matrix
numbers on the discs and give it a try.
Will wonders never cease!
Ken Greenwald
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:43:09 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Bayerische Rundfunk
On 12/11/07 6:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk, who was apparently
involved with a radio program in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
Bayerische Rundfunk is not a person -- it's the Bavarian Radio Authority
in Germany.
Elizabeth
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:43:47 -0500
From: "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Bayerische Rundfunk
Martin Grams asked:
I came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk, who was
apparently involved with a radio program in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
Bayerische Rundfunk (aka BR) is the Bavarian Broadcasting Corporation
that originated in Munich Germany with their premier radio broadcast
on March 30, 1924.
Paul Thompson
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:43:54 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 12-12 births/deaths
December 12th births
12-12-1886 - Violet Kemble Cooper - London, England - d. 8-16-1961
actor: "School for Scandal"
12-12-1893 - Edward G. Robinson - Bucharest, Romania - d. 1-26-1973
actor: Steve Wilson "Big Town"
12-12-1898 - Noreen Gammill - Missouri - d. 12-21-1988
actor: Sister Dinwiddie "Bill Goodwin Show"; Cathy "Opie Cates Show"
12-12-1902 - Helen Menken - NYC - d. 3-27-1966
actor: Brenda Cummings "Second Husband"
12-12-1904 - Pete Pumiglio - d. 10-20-1996
musician: "The Ipana Troubadors"
12-12-1907 - Allen Massey - Midland, TX - d. 3-3-1983
singer: (Louise Massey and the Westerners) "National Barn Dance";
"Show Boat"
12-12-1908 - Hank Ladd - Chicago, IL - d. 6-9-1982
actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"
12-12-1908 - Victor Babin - Moscow, Russia - d. 3-1-1972
concert pianist with a career in radio
12-12-1909 - Karen Morley - Ottumwa, IA - d. 3-8-2003
blacklisted actor: "War Town"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-12-1909 - Louis G. Cowan - Chicago, IL - d. 11-18-1976
producer: "The Quiz Kids"; "Murder at Midnight"
12-12-1910 - Mary Lou Clark - NYC
singer: (The Merry Macs) "Bing Crosby Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
12-12-1910 - Morris Mamorsky - d. 3-12-2003
composer, musical director: "The Eternal Light"; "Wanted"; "Words at
War"
12-12-1913 - Winston Burdette - Buffalo, NY - d. 5-19-1993
newscaster: (protege of Edward R. Murrow) "CBS World News Round Up"
12-12-1915 - Bea Fontane - New Milford, NJ - d. 3-25-2002
singer: (The Fontane Sisters) "Chesterfield Supper Club"
12-12-1915 - Frank Sinatra - Hoboken, NJ - d. 5-14-1998
singer, actor: (The Voice), "Your Hit Parade"; "Frank Sinatra Show";
Rocky Fortune "Rocky Fortune"
12-12-1916 - Acrivy Fukkuzawa - Constantinople, Turkey
opera singer: "Radio Paris"; "Radio Strassbourg"
12-12-1918 - Joe Williams - Codele, GA - d. 3-29-1999
blues singer: "Count Basie and His Orchestra"; "Stars for Defense"
12-12-1919 - Seymour Korman - d. 8-2-1993
newsman for Mutual
12-12-1923 - Bob Barker - Darrington, WA
disc jockey: "Bob Barker Show"
12-12-1938 - Connie Francis - Newark, NJ
singer: "Horn and Hardart Children's Hour"
12-12-1950 - Louis Nowra - Melbourne, Australia
writer: "Albert Names Edward"
December 12th deaths
01-31-1902 - Tullulah Bankhead - Huntsville, AL - d. 12-12-1968
actor, hostess: "Johnny Presents"; "Big Show"
02-27-1891 - David Sarnoff - Minsk, Russia - d. 12-12-1971
executive: National Broadcasting Company"
02-27-1907 - Mildred Bailey - Tekoa, WA - d. 12-12-1951
singer: (Rockin' Chair Lady) "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Camel Caravan"
03-05-1927 - Jack Cassidy - NYC - d. 12-12-1976
singer, actor: "Stars for Defense"; "Cue Magazine Salutes ASCAP"
03-10-1915 - Ranald MacDougall - Schenectady, NY - d. 12-12-1973
writer: "The Man Behind the Gun"; "Passport for Adams"; "There Was a
Woman"
04-18-1902 - Harry Owens - O'Neil, NE - d. 12-12-1986
bandleader: "Hawaii Calls"; "Sweet Leilani Time"; Harry Owens and His
Orchestra"
05-07-1923 - Anne Baxter - Michigan City, IN - d. 12-12-1985
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-11-1913 - John Weigel - Springfield, MO - d. 12-12-2002
announcer: "The Chicago Theatre of the Air"; "Meet the Meeks"
05-23-1883 - Douglas Fairbanks - Denver, CO - d. 12-12-1939
commentator: "KHJ Los Angeles 1921"
07-04-1898 - Johnny Lee - Los Angeles, CA - d. 12-12-1965
actor: Algonquin J. Calhoune "Amos 'n' Andy"
07-25-1922 - Earl Gillespie - d. 12-12-2003
sportscaster: voice of the Milwaukee Braves
08-02-1903 - Victor McLeod - d. 12-12-1972
writer: "The Bing Crosby Show"; "Stop or Go"
08-26-1912 - Chuck Foster - Jeanette, PA - d. 12-12-2001
bandleader: "Treasury Bandstand"; "One Night Stand"
08-29-1916 - George Montgomery - Brady, MT - d. 12-12-2000
actor: "Hollywood Star Time"; "NBC University Theatre of the Air"
09-05-1893 - George Sokolsky - Utica, NY - d. 12-12-1962
news commentator: 15-minute weekly series on ABC
09-24-1915 - Larry Gates - St. Paul, MN - d. 12-12-1996
actor: "Radio City Playhouse"
11-07-1911 - Dick Stark - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 12-12-1986
announcer: "It Pays to be Ignorant"; "Perry Mason"; "Walter
Winchell's Jergens Journal"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:46:15 -0500
From: DurangoKid@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: THE AFTERNOON SHOW
"In one of the Bob Hope shows I've been listening to, he tells the
audience that the Bell Sisters will be back later, in the aftershow.
That's a new one on me: the aftershow."
I collect radio show tickets ! ! I have the following tickets:
THE BOB HOPE SHOW TUES MAR/17 (no year)
Doors close 12:20PM STUDIO A
THE BOB HOPE SHOW TUES MAR/17 (no Year)
Doors close 1:35PM STUDIO B
Both NBC Hollywood Studios Sunset & Vine
The sponsor is Jell-O Puddings & Pie Fillings
The year is 1953 as MAR/17th fell on a Tuesday that year . .
The years MAR/17th was on a Tuesday were:
1942 1953 1959 1970
I have another ticket, same sponsor & evrything else but
it's date is FRI MAR/20th Studio B with doors closing at
7:30pm . . .
Glenn E. Mueller
Rowland Heights, CA
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:12:02 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: bayerische rundfunk
I came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk, who was
apparently
involved with a radio program in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
Martin,
Bayerische Rundfunk is not a person. That is the German name of the
Bavarian Broadcasting - part of Germany. Rundfunk means broadcasting
and Bayerische refers to the Bavarian area of Germany.
Like many countries, there were areas that were part of a larger
broadcasting network. In Germany, at least during the war, etc. it was
all under the central German control, but had their regional outlets.
This would have been one.
Jim Widner
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:40:38 -0500
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Der Bayerische Rundfunk
My pal Martin Grams, Jr. made my day with this hilarious question.
I came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk,
who was apparently involved with a radio program in the
late 1940s or early 1950s. For the life of me, I cannot
find the radio show he was involved with, regardless
of the reference guides I consulted. Does anyone know
what the name of the radio show was? Martin
Martin, you're serious about this? This is not a gag you're pulling on us?
Well if that is true, I will tell you that Der Bayerische Rundfunk is the
name of the statewide radio network of the German state of Bayern which is
where the city of Munchen, or Munich, is located. That is where the station
is located, on Rundfunkplatz 1. [removed] The reference
guide you should have consulted is The World Radio-TV Handbook.
Nice city. Nice station. Crazy question.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:12:01 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:32:17 -0500
From: "thomas heathwood" <HeritageRadio@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fibber McGee & Molly
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Bob Curti remembered the Fibber & Molly Christmas record album. We are going
to be playing that very album
on next week's HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE on the Olde Tyme Radio Network. Watch
this coming week's schedule
from Jerry Haendiges. This album was produced in 1946 by CAPITOL RECORDS on
three 78 rpm. records. It will be played just as it was originally heard on
the album, including brief pauses between "sides." Hope you like it.
Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Theatre
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:28:52 -0500
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Matching Buttons
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In the episode 500624 (12) Destination Moon of Dimension X, the astronauts
have to decide which one of them will get to go back to earth. They then
decide to match buttons to decide who gets to go. This has something to do
with pulling a button off of their clothes and matching them. Can anyone give
more details on how people used to match buttons to decide things.
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:29:53 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Bigger Broadcast
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My pal Mike Biel wrote:
Just like OTR research has improved (in most aspects) since the early years.
Here, here, Professor! Case in point: while the groundbreaking work "The Big
Broadcast," by Frank Buxton and regular FOTR attendee Bill Owen, was great for
its day when first published in 1972, its stature, laden with limitations and
shortcomings, has been far surpassed by other OTR books and websites. My main
problem with BB were those vague entries on the order of "This serial aired
for about two years on the Mutual network in the mid-1940s." Fast forward to
the late 1990s "update" via Scarecrow Press and there still exist entries on
this order.
Professor Biel also suggests:
(Here's a warning folks, Never sit between Derek and Ed Clute. When the
puns start flying and you get caught in the crossfire, it can be fatal.)
Oh, pshaw! Incidentally, I saw FOTR perennials Peter Fernandez and Corinne Orr
at the big anime fest here in NYC this past weekend. I'm not into post-1960s
import anime but Corinne got me in on the guest list (I guess you could call
it an "Ether/Orr situation"). I don't dislike latter-day [removed] just never
got into it, but then again, with trends like these, who needs anime!
That's about the size of it.
Derek Tague
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:19:59 -0500
From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: Bayerische Rundfunk
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Martin wrote:
I came across a letter with the name bayerische rundfunk, who was
apparently involved with a radio program in the late 1940s or early 1950s.
In regard to Martin's question, Bayerische Rundfunk is not a person. It's the
Bavarian broadcasting company based in Munich that oversees a number of public
radio and television stations. Rundfunk is the German word for broadcasting.
Mike Ogden
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:24:28 -0500
From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RE: Eerie Stories, transcriptions
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In response to Frank's question, Michael Biel wrote:
If you want to know the date of the Eerie Stories program in question,
get the recording company and syndicator's names, and the matrix number of
the disc. Then we'll start from there. If you don't have this info,
lotsa luck.
Even the numbers may not help. The disc label information for the Mercer
McLeod series THE MAN WITH THE STORY would seem to indicate a 1946-47-48
release, but my research has shown that this series was in syndication at
least a couple of years before that.
The origin of EERIE STORIES is a mystery that I've researched myself without
much success. Likewise, its narrator Sidney Mason. The best evidence I have is
that it was a mid- to late-Forties series. I've sometimes seen it identified
as a Canadian series; I don't think it was (at least, I know that Mason was
not Canadian), but I have found broadcast dates for it on a Canadian station.
So at least we know that it was an actual series and not just an audition
disc.
But, as Michael indicated, we would need to find someone who had seen the
actual disc and who had preserved the label information from it.
Oh, since we're on the topic, I have several wants for info along this same
line for my own research. Does anybody have disc label information for
surviving episodes of the following series?:
THE BLACK CHAPEL: The Crawling Terror
DETECTIVE DALT AND ZUMBA
GUESTS OF DOOM
SWAMP CAESAR
Years ago Michael Biel did his dissertation on the early history of radio
transcriptions. I suggest that there's a real need for a book on this subject,
particularly for drama transcriptions. There's so much misinformation floating
around about these, and it would be swell to have a definitive reference
source that identified the correct syndicator and date and place of origin for
each of these series. It would be great to dispel the persistently repeated
errors in logs and catalogs which we have now, such as identifying the Transco
(Los Angeles) series MOON OVER AFRICA as being South African, or in tagging
Australian transcriptions of THE WITCH'S TALE with WOR broadcast dates.
(Whoever is doing that, STOP [removed])
And, finally, back to EERIE STORIES. "The Case of the Disappearing Professors"
is a nutty little tale indeed. Mason does all of the voices (not particularly
well, as I remember). Michael expressed the hope that they caught the mad
doctor who killed the professors; well, they did, but it doesn't end there.
The four living heads are finally unplugged and allowed to die, but only after
they've had a reception in which the academic community comes to pay their
final respects to the professors. Which conjures up an image in my mind of
some hapless undergraduate stuck with the job of feeding tea and little
sandwiches to the heads. And what exactly DOES one say in a social situation
like that?:)
Mike Ogden
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