Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #299
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 9/30/2005 9:18 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 299
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Jack Benny in Baghdad?                [ "Operation: A Bit of Home" <operati ]
  REPS special                          [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Question for Harlan Zinck             [ Al Henderson <al_henders0n@[removed] ]
  Frequency Limitations                 [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Art for Your Sake                     [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  Harpo speaks                          [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Harpo Marx on Radio               [ wboenig@[removed] ]
  Earliest Lone Ranger                  [ "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed] ]
  More Worthless Verbiage about Bob Dy  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  One Coin, Two Sides                   [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  CBS Radio Affiliate News              [ "Michael Paraniuk" <bourdase@webtv. ]
  OTR in Oregon                         [ seandd@[removed] ]
  cleaning out, but not everything      [ "ed carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
  TO THOSE WAITING FOR THEIR CD'S       [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:02:56 -0400
From: "Operation: A Bit of Home" <operationabitofhome@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny in Baghdad?

Jack Benny in Baghdad?

The Falcon In Fallujah?

Is Bob Hope still entertaining our troops?

I knew that would get your attention, and yes, Jack Benny has been heard in
Baghdad and George and Gracie in Taji, Reilly in Ramadi and yes, Bob Hope
still entertains our Boys and Girls!

How do I know? My wife was in Iraq last year, as a mechanic with the 1452nd
Trans. Company for a year. Everywhere she went, she took her iPod and FM
Broadcaster, and everywhere they set up camp someone had a stereo, and that
stereo played OTR for hours on end.

FLASH to any US Military base in Iraq. Most of you would never believe that
our government does not supply our troops with soap, shampoo, toothpaste,
toothbrushes, floss, or even basic feminine items. Our troops are forced to
buy these items with their own money. No entertainment items are provided,
that comes from the homefront.

My wife called me from Camp Cook in Iraq soon after arriving. "Honey" she
said, "You won't believe it, I have to put on 80 pounds of battle gear, pick
up my rifle, and walk 2 miles in 140* (yes 140!) heat to buy tampons and
toothpaste! We have nothing to do but work and try not to get killed, can you
do something, I sure miss my OTR? The army will give you all the bullets and
beans you can handle, but beyond that, you are on your own"

Not My wife I thought, and an idea was born. I packed an iPod full of OTR and
a transmitter and off they went amongst dozens of boxes of goodies, snacks,
sanitary supplies, jerky, and canned grape fruit. OTR was heard everywhere.
She was a hit wherever she went.

FLASH to 3 months later, the husband of this heroic young lady got a phone
call from Baghdad!

"We are a facility called Freedom Rest in Baghdad, the only R&R facility for
our troops. The government supplies basic items here, and we count on
donations from home to entertain and treat our guests. We pass through over
150 different soldiers through here each day, and we need to entertain them."
These are troops that have been in battle, on convoy, and "In the thick of
it". They are sent there for three days of R&R, and they need it.

Operation: A Bit of Home was born that day. I started raising money, sending
over sports equipment, OTR tapes, old movies on DVD, anything I could get my
hands on. A web page was developed; [removed] (<-- click
here to visit.). The Rotary, Kiwanis, Moose, Elk, VFW, FFA, Scouts, 4-H were
all contacted. Hundreds of boxes, 30-40 lbs each went over (Any idea what
that costs? and NO there is no way the military will ship it for us no matter
what)

FLASH to lonely outposts called FOB's (Foreword Observation Bases) all over
Iraq. Anyone out on the road in the late afternoon has to pull into these
small spots of safety for the night. They cannot be out in the open. They are
lucky if they get a bunk. Some sleep in trucks or on the ground. Soap?
Toothpaste? Deodorant? Not a chance, except Operation: A Bit of home has
started shipping to these bases so the travelers can at least get clean,
listen to some OTR, and relax.

FLASH to the OTR mailing list, I am now asking you, many of whom saw and
heard Lucky Strikes go to war to help these heroes. Because of the Indian
tidal wave and Hurricane Katrina, our shipments have slowed and donations
have all but dried up.

I need your help, how can you help?

FLASH to your computer, #1, you visit our website [removed]
and learn about what is happening (there's 60 pages of stuff there!) every
visit helps us get corporate support. < FREE

#2. As a grass roots effort we live by word of mouth. If you know a select
few friends that may be interested, please let then know about us. Please do
not send this out as unwelcome spam. < Free

(we heard a story of our site being forwarded through 4 or 5 people and
landing on the desk of a VP at a large sock manufacturer (no they don't get
socks either) he shipped us 150 dozen pairs of socks and a check to cover
shipping to Iraq . "One never knows (where these will end up), does one?"

#3. You can donate money for shipping and supplies on the page or mail it to
us if you like. (We list and thank individual contributors and companies too!)

#4. Email me and I will give you shipping addresses and tell you how to fill
out the customs forms so you can send CD's of OTR and other needed items to
our troops. Get Bob Hope back over there where he belongs instead of sitting
in a box of duplicate disks! I will even call you and discuss anything you
want to that will help our troops. You can call me, my # is on the bottom of
the page.

FLASH to here and now, I'm glad Charlie let this through; it is pertinent to
OTR, a great way to spread our hobby to possible new enthusiasts, and show
you how to help our troops. "Everyone wants to help the troops, we just show
you how".

Operation: A Bit Of Home is not making a statement on supporting the war, but
showing our support for our Troops. We are not political. We do not lobby or
endorse anyone. Our only goal is to provide needed items to the soldiers
serving overseas. No one here is paid, we are all volunteers.

Ken Meyer

Founder, operation: A Bit of Home

Lover of D-X, Box 13 and Randy Stone

9 1 9 - 5 62 - 7 3 18

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:03:07 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  REPS special

Hi Everybody,

REPS is producing a 6 hour special heard on Halloween night.  We are looking
for ideas of show that are normally heard on that night, does any one have
suggestion?  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:03:27 -0400
From: Al Henderson <al_henders0n@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Question for Harlan Zinck

Harlan Zinck, a group fund raiser is an interesting
idea.
My question is: what is being done now with the Little
Orphan Annie disks? Since a large amount of money is
spent on transcription disks, they must be a hot
commodity. As you suggested for a group, why not turn
around and sell them when you're through with them for
at least the same price? That would recoup 100% of
your initial financial investment saving you literally
thousands of dollars!!

Al

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:31:39 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Frequency Limitations

On 9/30/05 7:06 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

In the [removed] a 5 KHz audio frequency response limitation for AM radio is a
MYTH and always was totally untrue.  There might be some limitations
overseas where the channels are separated by 9 KHz, but that was never an
issue in this discussion.

There is a long technical discussion of this specific topic in the 4/1/34
issue of "Broadcasting" by Andrew D. Ring, Broadcast Engineer on the
staff of the Federal Radio Commission. He writes (on page 13 of that
issue):

"At the present time there are no rules and regulations of the Commission
limiting the width of the side band transmission, and any broadcast
station may be so operated that side bands even up to 10 kilocycles or
more are transmitted without violating the terms of the license. The
Commission has not promulgated any regulations on the width of the side
band for the mere reason that it has not been necessary and no case has
been pointed out where interference was due to side bands more than 5
kilocycles from the carrier frequency, though today several stations
operate with side bands well over 5 kilocycles."

Ring goes on to point out that the Commission has taken the question of
separation into account in assigning frequencies, and if these separation
requirements are maintained, there is no reason to limit the upper end of
audio response, regardless of the standard 10 kc channel spacing --
because interference simply won't be an issue.

"In regard to interference from stations on adjacent channels, two 1-kw
stations 10 kilocycles removed in frequency will be considered. The
separation recommended by the engineering division of the Commission
under these circumstances is 200 miles. The effective signal at night
from a 1,000-watt station 200 miles distant would be approximately
one-half millivolt per meter. Assume that the high-fidelity radio
receiving set to be designed has a selectivity such that at 10 kilocycles
the undesired intensity must be three times the desired to reproduce the
same signal. Then the signal from the undesired station 10 kilocycles
removed and 200 miles distant at the 20 millivolt per meter contour of
the desired station would be approximately 40 decibels less in intensity.
This is approximately the noise level, so that interference from stations
with the adjacent channel separation reccomended by the engineering
division and natural noise would fall at about the same place. This is a
very important conclusion and indicates that no wider frequency
separation is needed between channels for high fidelity transmission and
reception." (p. 40)

In other words, as long as adjacent channels are separated by enough
distance to keep the interfering station at or below the natural noise
level, **there is no audible interference, and thus no limit to practical
sideband width.** Ring's purpose in writing the article, in fact, was to
encourage broadcasters to widen their bandwidths and take advantage of
the higher audio quality of modern broadcasting equipment -- and to
encourage receiver manufacturers to build more sets capable of handling
this higher-quality sound.

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:40:33 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Art for Your Sake

Can anyone help?  Jay

- --

I am writing in the hopes that you may be able to offer some advice
regarding some research I am undertaking regarding an NBC radio
program called Art for Your Sake that aired in 1939-40.  The
broadcast originated at WEAF in New York, and was overseen by the
National Art Society. Airing over the course of 26 consecutive
Saturday evenings, the program dramatized lives of artists past and
present, and was complemented by a series of illustrations-by the
artist(s) under discussion on any given broadcast-available via mail
at a nominal cost.

In January 1940, the program was devoted to the American painter
Thomas Hart Benton.  As part of the research for a Benton exhibition
and publication I am organizing, I have obtained a copy of the script
for this broadcast.  I am trying to learn however if there might be a
recording of this broadcast.  Although I am most interested in
locating a recording of the Benton program on Art for Your Sake, I
would also be interested in obtaining additional broadcasts from the
program, featuring artists other than Benton.  The NBC corporate
archives at the Wisconsin Historical Society and the Library of
Congress do not have the Benton broadcast.

I would thus be grateful for any information or leads you may be able
to share regarding borrowing (or, if necessary, acquiring) a
recording of Benton's appearance on Art for Your Sake.

With all best wishes, and my thanks for your consideration,

Leo Mazow
--
Curator of American Art
Palmer Museum of Art
<lgm11@[removed];

[ADMINISTRIVIA: This email was sent multiple times to multiple websites.  
--cfs3]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:42:02 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Harpo speaks

11-23-1888 - Harpo Marx - Yorkville, NY - d. 9-28-1964
comedian: (First Marx Brother to speak on radio) Occasional guest spots

Would somebody please explain?

Check out this website,
[removed]#guest

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:42:47 -0400
From: wboenig@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Harpo Marx on Radio
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In issue #297, Tom Rose asked:

"> 11-23-1888 - Harpo Marx - Yorkville, NY - d. 9-28-1964
comedian: (First Marx Brother to speak on radio) Occasional guest spots

Would somebody please explain?"

According to a New York Times article of May 18, 1929, NBC carried a
short-wave radio broadcast to Admiral Richard Byrd at the South Pole -- a
broadcast that included several big-name stars of the era, including Harpo.

And no, no recording of this is known to exist.  However, legend has it that
Groucho and Chico took a poke at this event in the movie "Duck Soup" with the
following exchange:

Groucho (to Chico):  "Do you have a license?"  Chico:  "No, but my dog, he's
got a million of 'em.  You know, he once went with Admiral Byrd to the pole!"
Groucho:  "I'll bet the dog got there first!"

Wayne Boenig

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:43:03 -0400
From: "Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Earliest Lone Ranger

Andrew Steinberg asked about the earliest recorded Lone Ranger program.
According to Terry Salomonson's log, the episode from Dec. 17, 1937
(untitled) that contains the opening sentence "It'll be a cinch to get away
with the [removed]" is the earliest.  It is the same episode that is
circulating as No. 778/3, "Frame-Up for Profit".  Terry has told me that a
few "test" transcriptions of 1937 adventures exist, although the first
actual transcription, at which time the episodes bear dual numbers, was
January 17, 1938.  As to how this one slipped into the stream, I have no
idea.

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:45:59 -0400
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  More Worthless Verbiage about Bob Dylan

 > Having been a young lad of 17 in Hibbing in 1959 while he was there I
will tell you this. He is not the person most people would invite into the
home.

He is notliked by most of the people who knew him.

Having once been 17 myself, I can sorta connect with this. At that age, I
don't think anybody, including me, liked me or anyone else that age. It goes
with the territory.

What might be a tad different about Dylan is, he's a Minnesotan, although
I've never heard him speak the language. Minnesotans have a knack for
snubbing their favorite sons; Sauk Center wished that Sinclair Lewis didn't
exist, and Anoka probably doesn't like Garrison Keillor either, and for the
same reasons. A lot of folks from those small towns really take it personally
when someone lampoons their cherished way of life. I think there's an old
statement somewhere about a prophet being without honor in his own land. I
have to wonder how the folk in Brainerd feel about the Coen Brothers after
"Fargo." BTW, I remember, after "Fargo" coming out, Keillor badmouthing its
portrayal of Minnesotans. It seems that he felt he was the only one he would
allow to poke fun of them. Well, that's different, you bet.

Thanx,

 B. Ray

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:25:23 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  One Coin, Two Sides
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From: Bhob Stewart <bhob2@[removed];
Subject:  Dylan  and Kerouac

(Re: Dylan) ... He is notliked by most of  the people who knew him.

... (Jack Kerouac) ... a guy who was once
the town drunk.  Yet, curiouser and curiouser, we are talking about
two of the greatest  creative and innovative talents of the past
century.

IMHO, one does not negate the other.

A Performing Artist ([removed] Al Jolson) or an Artist ([removed] Picasso) can "Do
Great Things For Humanity," while at the same time being nothing but wretched
toward his/her fellow Humans.

The jury is still out, as too which characteristic is actually more
important [removed]

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:24:03 -0400
From: "Michael Paraniuk" <bourdase@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CBS Radio Affiliate News

The Columbia Network finally has re-established a small presence in
Louisville, KY. Harvey Naegler, VP of CBS Radio, finally covinced a longtime
former CBS Affil to come home. WHAS 50,000 watt has rejoined Columbia and
will broadcast actualities, one on one interviews with CBS News
personalities, and other CBS Radio material. They will not yet broadcast the
CBS Hourlies, but the hope is WHAS will eventually give network clearance for
the Hourlies during overnight. A small beginning, but at least it is
something to build on. On a similar note, back in 2002, I reminded Westwood
One about a small but long time CBS affil of 55 years which Westwood One took
for granted and that station dropped Columbia due to neglect in the late
90's. Westwood re-established contacts with this station but it was under
contract with AP Network News till 2005. On September 8, 2005 this historic
CBS affil rejoined the network - little 1,000 watt WMBS Uniontown, PA at 590
on the dial. I always wondered how this little station in southwest PA
acquired the call letters which would have been perfect  call letters for a
flagship station of the Mutual Broadcasting System. However, Mutual did not
own any radio station until the 70's (I think). I heard Mutual did not manage
WCFL Chicago or WHN New York very well either. I call my friends at Westwood
One about every 3 weeks to remind them of their duty to history to protect
America's second oldest radio network. (The case has been well made that  ABC
Radio is the oldest network with its roots going back to NBC Blue).
[removed] Mike who has listened to the Purple Network of CBS the
Columbia Broadcasting System for 47 years. I don't think CBS *chirped* until
the 60's, but the BONG goes back to the 40's. I heard it on cassette tapes of
Kate Smith Speaks and Arthur Godfrey Time.

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:12 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR in Oregon

This article from the Register Guard covers where to listen to OTR in Eugene, Oregon.

They had the clever idea to run a contemporary version of War of the Worlds on Halloween!  Who would have thought to do that!

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

[removed]

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:07:30 -0400
From: "ed carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  cleaning out, but not everything

hi once more,
as things change, i must change with the times
i have 90+ brand new c90s for sale $25 and post
also for anyone who is tech inclined, 2-teac reel to reel decks
$75ea. and post, don't email asking about whats wrong, techies will know, i
don't
some almost brand new 3 headed sony cassette decks
i stopped doing reels and cassettes not worth the effort, i emp with those
who complain about mp3, but it can be a good thing, it just depends on
who is buying or what the person wants to do with them, it boils down
to personell choice.
ed

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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:07:48 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  TO THOSE WAITING FOR THEIR CD'S

Two weeks ago, I bought stamps from the USPS WebSite -- still waiting.
The old PO motto was, 'through rain, hail, sleet & [removed]'  The NEW PO
motto is, NOTHING IS GUARANTEED.  I once asked a postmaster if he saw
that sign above the door of an airliner, would you get on?  Or, in your
doctors office!  Sorry 'bout the [removed]

[removed]
           Sandy
[removed]
        [removed]

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