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Date: 10/18/2004 1:56 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 335
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  WXYT (AKA WXYZ) & WJR                 [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  clear channel                         [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
  Webb, Troup and London                [ "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@sbcglob ]
  Charles Osgood CBS Radio Programs     [ "stanleybadams" <stanleybadams@yaho ]
  Libby, Libby, Libby on your table, t  [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  "Clear Channel" Stations              [ "Andy" <oomspine@[removed]; ]
  Black Actors                          [ <adf3@[removed]; ]
  Re: Black Actors on OTR               [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Terry - Libby's version - Dunning     [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
  [removed]                                [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  Caroline Munro                        [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  black OTR stars                       [ "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed]; ]
  Re: Network affiliation identificati  [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  Re: Black OTR Stars                   [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Romance and Haunted Houses            [ "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed]; ]
  Duffy's First Reader                  [ "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed]; ]
  Clear Channel Stations                [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Elaine Hyman on "Law and Order: Crim  [ seandd@[removed] ]
  Black Radio Actors                    [ Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@earthlin ]
  Re: Black OTR Stars                   [ Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:23:37 -0400
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WXYT (AKA WXYZ) & WJR

More significant than Detroit Tiger broadcasts, both
Detroit stations WXYT and WJR have OTR connections.

WXYT Radio (1270 AM) was originally WXYZ (the T is for
talk; it's mostly talk radio now), home station of
"The Lone Ranger", "The Green Hornet" and "Challenge
of the Yukon."

Owner George W. Trendle gave the station the call
letters WXYZ because he said it was the last word in
radio.

The popularity of "The Lone Ranger" led to WXYZ, WLS
in Chicago (for World's Largest Store- Sears) and WOR
in New York forming the nucleus of the Mutual
Broadcating System.

WJR (760 AM) was, if memory serves, home station of
"The Hermit's Cave."

Rick

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:23:59 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  clear channel

I know about a few stations that aired oldtime radio
when it was [removed]

Before WFAN was WNBC and before that it was WRCA (660
am);

WABC 770 was previously called WJZ (transferred to a
station in Baltimore) and even before that was located
on 760.  WABC was a CBS owned and operated station and
I think ABC Network did not yet exist.
Not sure what the station later known as WCBS (880
was) but WOR 710 existed in name and location pretty
much most of the time, as did
1050 (but that was WMGM and then WHN Broadcasting from
the Hotel New Yorker) and then WEVD and now WEPN
(ESPN).

I may be a bit fuzzy on some of the specific details.
There are others
in the NY area such as WINS 1010 which was there much
of the time as well.
Andy Blatt

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:24:10 -0400
From: "Paul Thompson" <beachcrows@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Webb, Troup and London

Ron Sayles asked:
I find it interesting the Bobby Troup was born on this day and
Julie London
died on this day, weren't they married to each other? <<

 Yes, they were married after Julie and Jack Webb divorced and it's
been said that all three remained good friends both socially and
professionally.

Paul Thompson

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:24:42 -0400
From: "stanleybadams" <stanleybadams@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Charles Osgood CBS Radio Programs

Does anyone have a source for the Charlie Osgood radio dailies that he did
for so many years?  I am hoping that there is a site out there somewhere
that has some of his old radio features.

Regards

Stanley Adams
Memphis

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:59:14 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Libby, Libby, Libby on your table, table, table

Chuck writes:

I have a paperback copy of Dunnings book, and also the newer hardback
version, and in checking Terry and The Pirates in both, I see no mention of
Libbys as a sponsor. Is this merely an oversight on Mr. Dunnings part? The
shows I have are mostly in the early 40's, and are all sponsored by libbys
Tomato and Pineapple juices.

Could someone please explain this?

Not everybody missed this, Chuck.  My "Radio Crime Fighters:  Over 300
Programs from the Golden Age" (2002, [removed]) reports on p. 251
that Libby, McNeill & Libby Packing Co. sponsored Terry and the Pirates for
a wide line of Libby's canned foodstuffs between Oct. 6, 1941-May 29, 1942.
And that fact is reconfirmed in my "Frank and Anne Hummert's Radio Factory:
The Programs and Personalities of Broadcasting's Most Prolific Producers"
(2003, also McFarland & Co.), on p. 91.  So your ears are not deceiving you,
Chuck.

Jim Cox

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:07:14 -0400
From: "Andy" <oomspine@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Clear Channel" Stations

Response to today's question from Ms. Watkins:
WSM, 650, was NBC for a long time.
WFAN, 660, was NBC for a long time, until call letters changed from WNBC.
Naturally was NBC flagship station.
WSCR, 670, was WMAQ, NBC for a long time.  Call letters changed about 2000.
WLW, 700, was one of the first Mutual stations until the thirties.  Then was
NBC for a long time.
WGN, 720, another of the first Mutual stations, but has long been
non-network.
WJR, 760, was CBS for a long time, probably still is.
WABC, 770, long time ABC flagship.
WBBM, 780, long a CBS station, likely still is.
WGY, 810, long time NBC.
WBAP, 820, long time NBC.
WCCO, 830, CBS.
WWL, 870, CBS.
WCBS, 880, another coincidence, it is CBS, flagship station.
WLS, 890, long time ABC.  During the golden age of radio, WLS and WENR
shared 890 in Chicago (fortunately at different times of the day).  As I
believe Elizabeth M. reported once they both carried some NBC Red and some
NBC Blue programs.  When NBC Blue became ABC, WLS became an ABC affiliate
and it quite possibly still is.  I don't think that WENR has broadcast since
the fifties.
    Above is at least mostly accurate.
Regards all,
Andy Ooms
Pine, AZ

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:07:23 -0400
From: <adf3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Black Actors
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A pioneering black radio drama was on CBS in 1932.  "John Henry" starred Juano
Hernandez and an all black cast.  I have several old Radio Stars Magazines
that have photos and articles on this program.

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:08:36 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Black Actors on OTR

On 10/17/04 2:31 PM, "[removed]@[removed]"
<[removed]@[removed]; wrote:

And there were indeed others, especially on "Amos 'n' Andy".
While Gosden and Correll were white men playing black voices, there were
various Hollywood black actors of the day who did play the voices of
other black parts. Ernestine Wade played Sapphire Stevens and Amanda
Randolph played Sapphire's Mamma, both on TV *AND* on Radio.

Correll and Gosden were, by far, the leading employers of African-American
actors on network radio during the 1940s and 1950s.  Ernestine Wade joined
them in 1939, and would remain with them for the next twenty-one years, and
she was quickly followed, in 1940, by Lillian Randolph. Both Wade and
Randolph played a variety of female roles during the final years of the
nightly serial.

With the change to a weekly, live-audience sitcom format in 1943, Correll
and Gosden began to actively recruit black performers. The list of
African-American actors who were most often featured on the series during
the sitcom years includes Wade, the Randolph sisters, Ernest Whitman, James
Baskett, Jester Hairston, Ruby Dandridge, Vivian Dandridge, Dorothy
Dandridge, Roy Glenn, "Wonderful" Smith, Eddie Green, Johnny Lee, Amos
Reece, Vincent Townsend, Horace "Nick" Stewart, Alvin Childress, Corny
Anderson (Eddie Anderson's brother), and Millie Bruce (the wife of boxer
Sugar Ray Robinson). Many of these performers also had roles in the
short-lived A&A television series.

Elizabeth

"The Original Amos 'n' Andy" -- Coming in Spring 2005 from McFarland & Co.
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:09:02 -0400
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: ToPostOn OTRdigest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Terry - Libby's  version - Dunning

    Chuck North has posted that he's seen no mention
of the Libby's juices '41-2 radio run of Terry and the
Pirates in John Dunning.  But in the first edition of
Dunning's "On the [removed]" (1998), under Terry and the
Pirates (under Broadcast History), he wrote: "[removed],
[removed] Midwest ... weekdays. Libby."   (By the way,
the correct starting date for that Libby's run wasn't
Oct. 16th but Oct. 6th (sixth).)

  -- Phil C.

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:36:31 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  [removed]

Heck:

I was ALSO a member of the Episcopalian Actors Guild, for two years!

(Actually, 2003 would have been my third, but Mart Hulswit forgot that
he cashed my [removed])

I've actually been meaning to renew my membership!

(The EAG can be forgetful, but they really do mean well!)

As mentioned, they do wonderful things with helping folks in the
theatrical community--on a totally non-denominational basis.

Anyone within easy travelling distance from Manhattan should think of
joining.

They do a wonderful series of programs throughout the year--

But the main motivation should be that it's a group that really does do
a lot of nice things.

If you call them, they'll send you a membership form--

But I believe that you might still need someone to refer [removed]

Jim Burns  (James H. Burns)

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:37:15 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Caroline Munro

Actually, Caroline Munro was one of those great "cult" actresses from
the '70s, appearing in Hammer films, starring in Ray Harryhausen's THE
GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINDBAD, and her Bond film was not FOR YOUR EYES ONLY,
but--

THE SPY WHO LOVED ME.

She's been on the convention circuit for years now, is famous for
treating her fans nicely, and most interesting of all, has recently
teamed up with two other Hammer lovelies--

Ingrid Pitt and Veronica Carlson, if memory serves--

To produce a series of new, direct-to-video, horror [removed]

Jim

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:37:30 -0400
From: "HOWARD BLUE" <khovard@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  black OTR stars

The following passage is excerpted from, my book, WORDS AT WAR (Scarecrow
Press, 2002)

Howard Blue

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Probably the most candid series to discuss blacks, New World A-Coming, was
done on WMCA, a local New York radio station. The series was presented in
1944 "to portray by radio the contributions of the Negro race to American
life, 'his country and ours," according to the station's new president,
Nathan Straus. Its cast was primarily black: Canada Lee was its narrator.
But some white performers also appeared, including Alexander Scourby, Will
Geer, and Joseph Julian.

. . . .Each week New World A-Coming presented vignettes demonstrating the
advancement of civil rights, and discussing the many obstacles yet to be
overcome. In form, the series owed a debt to the March of Time series. The
sketches were short, punchy, and well-acted, and were tied each week into a
selected theme: "The Negro," "Fascism and Democracy," "The Negro In Early
America," "The Story Behind The Headlines In The Negro Press," "White Folks
Do Some Funny Things," and many others.

New World A-Coming was an extraordinary program for its time. While it was
not a "militant" show, neither was it complacent. At its heart was the
message that blacks had the power to change an oppressive system--and in
fact that it was their responsibility to challenge that system. This
contrasted sharply with the message in "Negroes in the War" and similar
government productions. Furthermore, no network could have dared to
broadcast such a series, a sad commentary on the times.

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:37:57 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Network affiliation identification

So, I was wanting to know if anyone out there knew
the original network affiliations of the following clear channel stations.
And in a lot of cases, their call letters during the Golden Age of OTR.

650  WSM    Nashville, TN     (NBC)
660  WFAN  New York, NY    ( 660 am was the home of WEAF the NY flagship
station
                                              of the NBC red radio network
.The call letters  were
                                              changed to WNBC in 1946. For
further infotion on this
                                              stations history you may may
want to check out the
                                              web site as
[removed]

670  WSCR  Chicago, IL         (During the OTR era WMAQ an owned and operated
                                             NBC station was heard at 670 on
the dial .
                                             check out Rich Samuels web site
for a great history of
                                             broadcasting in Chicago at NBC.
                                             [removed]

700  WLW    Cincinnati, OH    (NBC . Also one of the early stations
affiliated with Mutual.)
710  WOR    New York, NY  (Mutual )
720  WGN    Chicago, IL      (Mutual )
760  WJR     Detroit, MI    (CBS)
770  WABC  New York, NY    (the call letters were WJZ when it was the
flagship station
                                             of the NBC Blue network . Later
NBC blue became ABC
                                             and some time after the call
letters were changed. )
780  WBBM  Chicago, IL      (CBS)
810  WGY    Schenectady, NY  (NBC)
820  WBAP  Ft. Worth-Dallas, TX   (NBC)
830  WCCO  Minneapolis, MN  (CBS)
870  WWL    New Orleans, LA  (CBS)
880  WCBS  New York, NY   (This was the flagship station of CBS radio .Until
1946 went
                                           by the call letters WABC. )
890  WLS     Chicago, IL  (NBC Blue /ABC . If I recall correctly I believe
this station
                                      was a shared frequency during the OTR
days with WENR.
                                      One station opearted until sunset and
the other operated until
                                      sunrise. )

For a detailed list of Netwrok affiliated in 1949 check out the web site
[removed].

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:38:36 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Black OTR Stars

In addition to the other roles people have already mentioned (Birdy,
post-Marlin Beulah, etc), here are two more: Hattie McDaniel was a
supporting player on the Eddie Cantor show in the early 40s. Butterfly
McQueen played Rochester's niece (and Mary's maid) on Jack Benny in the
early 40s, and she was also on the Danny Kaye show in the mid-40s.

Numerous black celebrities made appearances on Jack Benny's show at
various times, including Louis Armstrong, Joe Louis, and the Ink Spots.
(Which reminds me that Bing Crosby's show featured a black quartet
every week at one point in the early mid-40s.)

There was a three-part documentary called "Radio Fights Jim Crow" put
out by Minnesota Public Radio a few years back. It examines shows
written by and starring black actors, focusing on the black experience
in post-war America. In particular, the following series are
highlighted:
Americans All, Immigrants All (1938ñ39)
Freedom's People (1941-42)
New World A'Coming (1944-57)
Destination Freedom (1948-50)

You can listen to the documentary (and hear a recreation of a 1947 Twin
Cities show about discrimination) here:
[removed]

Kermyt

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:38:56 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Romance and Haunted Houses

Someone asked recently about OTR shows involving romance and haunted houses,
and someone replied with a reference to Life of Riley. The Life of Riley
episode is dated 44-10-29, but it doesn't involve any romance, just Riley
and his son spending the night in a creepy abandoned house. There's a
Gildersleeve episode (43-05-16) about creepy house in town, but also not
what you'd call romantic. With Halloween approaching I have been going back
through my collection looking for stories of the classic
young-couple-meets-haunted-house type. They seemed so common in old movies,
but surprisingly not as much on radio, at least not in my collection. The
only ones I have found so far:

* Weird Circle #76 (45-05-13) "The Haunted Hotel" is a good story with
romance and haunting.
* The Clock #11 (47-01-12) "The Lively Ghost" involves a ghost and an
extramarital affair.
* A few of the BBC Ghost Stories series from the late 40s might fit the
bill. I only skimmed through them.

I would love to know about other specific shows that involve a young couple
running into ghosts.

Doug Leary

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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:48:46 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <doug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Duffy's First Reader

The 10/19/43 program of Duffy's Tavern advertises a free book called Duffy's
First Reader, supposedly written by Archie the bartender. The 48-page book,
available for 10c postage and handling, included chapters on mathematics,
etiquette, history and grammer, as well as Archie's autobiography. Profusely
illustrated with pictures of the tavern crew and visiting celebrities.

Do copies of this booklet still exist?

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:19:54 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Clear Channel Stations

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:09:57 -0400
From: "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed];

I was wanting to know if anyone out there knew the original network
affiliations of the following clear channel stations. 

Regarding original call letters, any three-letter call is most likely the station's original call 
letters.

660  WFAN  New York, NY

This was originally WEAF.  It was the flagship station of the NBC Red Network and became 
WNBC in 1946.

710  WOR    New York, NY

This has always been WOR.  It was affiliated with Mutual for many years.

770  WABC  New York, NY

This was originally WJZ and was the flagship station of the NBC Blue Network.  It continued 
to be the flagship of ABC.  The call letters were changed in 1953.

810  WGY    Schenectady, NY

This was originally owned by General Electric and was an NBC affiliate for many years.

20  WBAP  Ft. Worth-Dallas, TX

880  WCBS  New York, NY

The original call letters were WABC, which stood for "Atlantic Broadcasting Company."  It 
was, from the beginning, the flagship station of CBS and became WCBS in 1946.

-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:14:54 -0400 From: seandd@[removed] To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Elaine Hyman on "Law and Order: Criminal Intent" 2003 Friends of Old Time Radio guest and WXYZ Radio alumna Elaine Hyman had a guest shot on last night's episode of "Law & Order, Criminal Intent" (the one with the guy from "Men in Black"). She was in one scene playing a desk clerk named Flora. It's great to see old radio stars working in the new century. I did have a chance to speak with her at last year's convention and she was quite a nice lady who was full of energy and happy to see the old gang again. I was seated at Fred Foy's table for dinner and a lot of the WXYZ people were either also seated there or stopped by to chat. Just a reminder to everyone to get out to the convention this week - you never know who'll you'll get to [removed] Sean Dougherty SeanDD@[removed] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:56:24 -0400 From: Anthony Tollin <sanctumotr@[removed]; To: <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Black Radio Actors "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed]; wrote:
Having only recently discovered Eddie Green, I'm wondering whether
there were any other black OTR sitcom regulars besides Eddie Green and
Rochester?

Well, he wasn't a sitcom star, but Jauno Hernandez had a pretty major radio
career.  He appeared on a lot of series including CAVALCADE OF AMERICA, THE
MARCH OF TIME and THE SHADOW, and played the continuing roles of Lothar on
MANDRAKE THE MAGICIAN and Kolu on JUNGLE JIM. --Anthony Tollin***

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:55:59 -0400
From: Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Black OTR Stars

Jester Hairston was among the black actors who appeared on the radio
(and TV) versions of "Amos 'n' Andy." He played Leroy and Henry Van
Porter, the latter perhaps only on TV. Jester was also heard on
Bogart's "Bold Venture" and other programs.

I don't believe Nick Stewart (aka Nicodemus or Nick O'Demus, latter
spelling courtesy of Louis Armstrong) played Lightnin' on radio as he
did on TV but he did do radio, and was an occasional guest at
SPERDVAC conventions. In fact, replaced Eddie Green on "Duffy's
Tavern."

Jordan R. Young

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