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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 7
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Skippy in "Life" [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
RE: GUNSMOKE [ "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed]; ]
The Voice of The Man Of Steel [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
One Man's Family and Tom Mix CORRECT [ Mark Justice <markjustice@[removed] ]
Old Time Radio in Japan [ nikurashi@[removed] ]
Article on Old Time Radio [ nikurashi@[removed] ]
Re: A&A Sites [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Casting Decisions [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
Re: book review on copyright [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
Hindenburg crash on March of Time [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Scripts [ Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed] ]
Re: Real Audio [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
"A Job for Superman" [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
WSM AM 650 to go ESPN Sports Talk Ra [ JOE KUBASHA <kubasha@[removed]. ]
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:40:54 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Skippy in "Life"
A very interesting post from Jack French re: "Skippy". However as many
others will note I'm sure, there was no "Life Magazine" in the 20's, the
first issue being published in 1936.
On another [removed] can somebody tell me is 1998 the most recent
publication of John Dunning's "On the Air"?
Thanks
George Aust
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:02:21 -0500
From: "Owens Pomeroy" <opomeroy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: GUNSMOKE
In answer to Dale Slack's inquiry about his Gunsmoke collection being shy of
commercials. He probably has either the AFRS series of programs (though that
is unlikely),or a cleverly edited Edition from a distributor. I believe he
stated that there were public service announcements with the programs.
Sometimes when a show went into syndication, it was left up to the
individual station manager to either use local commercials or opt for PSA's.
This is what one of our local station did years ago, when they ran Lux
Radio Theatre.
Owens
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:25:41 -0500
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Voice of The Man Of Steel
One must also remember that while the radio show was airing that there
were two Movie serials starring Kirk Alan as Superman/Clark Kent. He too used
his voice as a tenor as Clark and a deep baritone as Superman.
Allen
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:26:15 -0500
From: Mark Justice <markjustice@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: One Man's Family and Tom Mix CORRECTION
Of course, I meant to say "thank", not "thanks". Getting OTR in the
mail discombobulates my typing [removed] of 'em.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:42:51 -0500
From: nikurashi@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Old Time Radio in Japan
This reminds me of something that happened in AFRS in 1952 at Camp
Sendai, Japan. Now
this _was_ AFRS, but I wonder how many equivalent mispronunciations of
that sort abounded in the good old days.
Boy, do you bring back the memories. I was stationed at Camp Drake,
Asakamachi, Japan from 1956 to 1959. While there, we soldiers were blessed
with FEN, which could have stood comparison with any stateside station. It
was so good that I tried for some time last year to get a copy of one of its
schedules in order to reminisce, and my efforts were just recently rewarded.
Unfortunately, in later years, its quality deteriorated drastically, to the
point that many Japanese were complaining about the poor English some of the
announcers used. Anyway, that's where I first heard OTR. I was working late
one night in the supply room when suddenly I heard, "The weed of [removed]"
Chills went through me. I didn't know what to think. Was I hallucinating?
was it some kind of delayed electronic echo bouncing back from another
galaxy? That was the first time I ever knew that the old programs were being
rebroadcast.
Sincerely,
Warren Jones
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:03:36 -0500
From: nikurashi@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Article on Old Time Radio
That article that Jim Widner called to our attention in Saturday's
Courier-Journal seemed to carry at least one small misnomer. Its writer
claimed that Amos 'n' Andy (1928-60) was the longest-running radio
program ever.
What about Mary Margaret McBride? It seems to me that I remember the same
claim being made for her book review show when I was growing up.
Warren Jones
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:04:51 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: A&A Sites
Owens Pomeroy asked,
Also does any one have the web site for the Amos &
Andy that was posted here a few months ago (Elizabeth, I believe it was
you).
I have *several* A&A-related sites --
"Amos 'n' Andy In Person" -- [removed]~[removed] -- a
book-length examination of the series' 1928-1943 serial era, drawn
largely from primary sources. Included are biographical information on
Correll and Gosden, an analysis of the linguistic characteristics of the
dialect used in the program, and an examination of public response to the
series during the 1930s. Script excerpts are copiously used, and most of
them are published here for the first time anywhere. There are also
extensive footnotes, a bibliography, a cast listing for both the serial
and sitcom versions of the program (including birth and death dates for
all principal performers) and the most complete A&A sitcom log ever
prepared.
"Amos 'n' Andy By The Numbers" --
[removed]~[removed] -- a brief paper documenting the
ratings popularity of the series over the years, and exploding the myth
of the "disastrous decline of 1932 that affected all broadcasting."
Illustrated with graphs.
"Breach of Promise: The Madam Queen Affair" --
[removed]~[removed] -- the complete scripts for the
entire "Madam Queen Breach of Promise Case" storyline from 1930-31,
covering sixty-four full episodes from 12/27/30 to 3/12/31, along with a
detailed introduction and afterword including production notes.
"Amos 'n' Andy -- The First Decade" --
[removed]~[removed] -- Eventually, this site will
host summaries of 2751 A&A serial episodes, from 3/19/28 thru the end of
the Pepsodent series on 12/31/37. Currently, summaries are available from
the beginning of the series thru 12/31/32. (I'm currently working thru
August 1933, and hope to have the entire 1933 series ready for posting
before spring.)
"Amos 'n' Andy Illustrated" --
[removed]~[removed] -- a gallery of A&A-related
photos, artwork, and memorabilia, from 1910 to 1948.
Hopefully one of these is the one you're looking for!
Elizabeth
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:55:18 -0500
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Casting Decisions
Hello All:
David Buswell gave a list of actors who were originally supposed to play
parts that others achieved acclaim for in various films. I've read that
CASABLANCA was originally supposed to star Ronald Reagan and Ann Sheridan in
the Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman roles.
George
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:05:32 -0500
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: book review on copyright
In #6 Alec asked something about my posting in #5 re the review of a new
book on copyright and intellectual property. My reply:
Go to [removed]; scroll down; click on Books; scroll down to More
Books News; click on All Headlines; click on "The Future of [removed]".
(The author of the book is Lawrence Lessig.)
-- Phil C.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:19:36 -0500
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hindenburg crash on March of Time
I often sit down and peruse the pages of the new edition of John Dunning's
"Encyclopedia", just to sop up some of that great information! I read in
the article on The March of Time that their program went on the air just
hours after the explosion of the Hindenburg.
With only bulletins to go on, the "March" players and SFX champ Ora Nichols
produced an excellent segment on the doings in Lakehurst, [removed]
Does anyone have a copy of this March of Time? I'd like to add it to my
collection of Hindenburg and Dirigible material. This archive was
instigated when Mike Biel and Bill Jaker put up with me (barely) as panel
emcee for an anniversary segment at FOTR. We honored Herb Morrison and his
recording engineer Charles Nehlsen ("Get this Charley, get this
[removed]"), and the outstanding historical work which Bill and Mike
accumulated on this incredible part of radio history. Wish we had the
March of Time segment for that!
If anyone knows how I may obtain that segment--or any other programs about
the Hindenburg (before or after the fire and crash) I'll appreciate hearing
about it.
Happy New Year! Lee Munsick
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:29:32 -0500
From: Harry Bartell <bartell@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Scripts
I was rather intrigued with Owens Pomeroy's invitation to attend a
Gunsmoke re-creation of "Chester's Inheritance" only because I happened
to write the script and I wondered where his copy came from.
Harry Bartell
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:30:05 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Real Audio
Real Audio sells a program now that will let you convert an RA file to
either a WAV file or MP3 file. However, here is the catch. The RA file had
to be made with the G2 encoder or later encoder.
I have a bunch of RA files that were made with a version 5 encoder. They
won't convert. I called Real Audio and was told that the older files won't.
I was also told that they knew of nothing that would convert them.
So, if your RA files are recent then you can do it. If they are a few years
old, probably not.
The file you want to buy is JukeBox Plus. It sells for $[removed] Go to
[removed] and you can check it out.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:31:15 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: "A Job for Superman"
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:12:31 -0500
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
FYI, for those who can find it, the book "Superman at Fifty" contains an
excellent essay by Phillip Skerry about the TV series and the reason why
Reeves played Kent and Superman so similarly.
And for those of us who can't find the book, please tell us the reason!
I remember reading in the late 50s, where someone in the letters column
of one of the Superman comic books asked why nobody noticed that Superman
and Clark Kent talked with the same voice. The editor replied that he
talked with a falsetto voice as Clark. It's strange that I accepted that
despite having heard George Reeves for all those years (and never heard
the Bud Collier version).
The comic books also showed Superman and Clark Kent with slightly
different hair styles, something George Reeves also didn't observe. But
I'm told by those who saw the 1960s Broadway show about Superman that Bob
Holliday did observe the hair-style change. I don't know whether he did
the voice change, but I know that Dean Cain didn't.
Another voice question in the letters column came about in the early
1960s, when they ran a story in the comic books where Superman needed to
appear together with Clark Kent on a TV show.
In those days, he tended to use robot doubles of his own making for such
things. Lois Lane, who spent a lot of her time in those days trying to
prove that Clark was Superman, set up metal detectors around the studio
to prevent that dodge. So Superman confided in President Kennedy about
his secret identity and got JFK to impersonate Clark Kent (really!).
A letter in the letters column asked how it happened that Lois didn't
recognize Kennedy's distinctive voice. The editor replied that Superman
talked for Clark, using "super ventriloquism."
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:09:31 -0500
From: JOE KUBASHA <kubasha@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: WSM AM 650 to go ESPN Sports Talk Radio
Hi,
I just read in the [removed] newsgroup that Gaylord
Entertainment is going to change WSM from country to ESPN Talk [removed]
sounds like the FM station will still broadcast country and the Opry.
WSM AM was one of the original clear channel AM stations from 1925.
Joe
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