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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2010 : Issue 189
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  The War Of The Worlds Murders         [ <saeberbach58@[removed]; ]
  Fibber McGee & Molly                  [ "Bill Schell" <bschell@[removed]; ]
  10-28 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  [removed] Ward pulp art now available      [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Chet Huntley and radio                [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
  Post-FOTR musings                     [ Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed] ]
  10-29 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The Hall of Fantasy                   [ "Ryan O" <ryano218@[removed]; ]
  Thank you, Pepsi Cola fans!           [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Guess I started [removed]          [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Calling a Fibber a Fibber             [ Lance Grider <rangegrider@[removed] ]

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:58:56 -0400
From: <saeberbach58@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The War Of The Worlds Murders

Hi Gang!
Sad to say I could not make it to the FOTR convention this year. For those
who did get a chance to attend I hope everyone had a great time. Hopefully,
next  year I may get a chance to attend and have the opportunity to meet some
of the great people who contribute to this list.

About a year ago, in honor of Halloween, I downloaded a copy of Max Allen
Collins' book "The War Of The Worlds Murders" to my Kindle. For those who are
looking for something to read with an OTR connection this just might fit the
bill.

The story is about Walter B. Gibson being contacted by Orson Welles about
possibly doing a new version of The Shadow with Welles, of course, as The
Shadow. He is offered to come down to New York, all expenses paid, to confer
with Welles about a new and improved version of The Shadow radio show. The
time of the meeting coincides with the rehearsals for The War Of The Worlds
broadcast. Gibson goes to the studio to meet with Welles, however Welles' is
at The Mercury Theater rehearsing for the current play they are working on.
While at the studio he meets Paul Stewart, John Houseman, William Alland,
Frank Readick, and Howard Koch. They are all listening to a rehearsal disc of
The War Of The Worlds and commenting what a piece of crap it is.

As the story rolls on we get to the day of the broadcast, Oct 30th 1938. That
afternoon the body of a young woman is found in one of the studios brutally
stabbed to death. To make matters worse apparently the woman worked at CBS
and was having a bit of an affair with Welles. For fear of a scandal and the
broadcast being canceled they decide not to call the police and commission
Gibson to see what clues he can gather and see if he can find the killer.
Gibson knows that he is going to have to call in the police and after he does
so he discovers that the body of the murdered woman has vanished!

That is all I'm going to say about the story as I might get into spoiler
territory and don't want to do that for any who may want to read the book.
Collins at the end of the book lists a bibliography of works that he
consulted when he wrote the book. At least he took the time to do some
research before writing the book. Of course this not a great piece of
literature, but it is a fun read and can be read in day or in a few hours.

Yesterday while listening to few episodes of The Lone Ranger from 1938 I came
across something I thought kind of interesting. During the musical bridge
between the first act and the second act instead of hearing the usual piece
of classical music normally heard I heard Omphale's Spinning Wheel by
Saint-Saens--The theme music for The Shadow! I have to admit a found that a
bit disconcerting and almost half expected to hear Johnstone or Morrison
giving the "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men" opening.

I also have a ILAM question. Can anyone provide me with the cast list of the
following serials. The Thing That Cries In The Night who played Randolph
Martin, Faye Martin, Hope Martin, and Job Martin. Also the passenger on the
plan who asks Doc about his picture being in his paper. I suspect that it was
Russell Thorson but I'm not sure. In Bury Your Dead, Arizona who played The
Maestro, Jumpin' Dick, and Dry Gulch Mary? In The Million Dollar Mystery who
played Phil, Arthur, Fish Evans, Leslie Marks, Donald Robert Lincoln, and the
mobsters who are trying to kill off the three comrades? I know who plays what
in Temple Of Vampires, but who played Jack Dempsey Ross' boyfriend, her
father, I know Luis Van Rooten played Jasper who are the actors for some of
the other roles in the story?

That is it for now.

Scott

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:59:05 -0400
From: "Bill Schell" <bschell@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Fibber McGee & Molly

In Fibber McGee and Molly programs in the 40s the announcer at the end
always credits the actor portraying the Old Timer and Wallace Wimple but
never players of Mayor Latrivia and Mrs. Upington. Anyone know why?

Also, I disagree with answers to the Rochester question.  Don Wilson and
Phil Harris used their real names. We know Jack Benny never usd his real
name as did Mary Livingston so that still doesn't explain why Eddie Anderson
was always referred to as Rochester. Perhaps that is the way Anderson wanted
it so he wouldn't be type cast.

Bill

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:59:14 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-28 births/deaths

October 28th deaths

10-28-1886 - Ruth Gates - Denton, TX - d. 5-23-1966
actor: Mrs Lenord "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
10-28-1895 - Herb Butterfield - Rhode Island - d. 5-2-1957
actor: Clarence Wellman "Halls of Ivy"; Hunter Glenn "One Man's Family"
10-28-1895 - John Boles - Greenville, TX - d. 2-27-1969
actor, singer: "Texaco Star Theatre"
10-28-1896 - Howard Hanson - Wahoo, NE - d. 2-26-1981
conductor, composer: "New York Philharmonic"; "ASCAP World's Fair
Concert"
10-28-1897 - Edith Head - San Bernardino, CA - d. 10-24-1981
costume designer: Intermission Guest "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-28-1902 - Catherine Shepherd - Zimbabwe - d. 2-18-1976
writer: "The Golden Cockerel"
10-28-1902 - Elsa Lanchester - Lewisham, England - d. 12-26-1986
actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Columbia Presents Corwin"; "Everyman's
Theatre"
10-28-1906 - Lou Bring - d. 7-15-1951
orchestra leader: "The Al Jolson Show"; "The Gracie Fields Show"
10-28-1908 - David LeWinter - NYC - d. 1-22-1976
orchestra leader: Late night dance band remotes
10-28-1910 - Arthur Altman - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-18-1994
CBS staff violinist and librarian
10-28-1912 - Madaline Lee - Dallas, TX - d. 1-10-1974
actor: Genevive Blue "Amos 'n' Andy"; Wendy Burton "Second Mrs. Burton"
10-28-1913 - Ruth Peterson - Wauwatosa, WI - d. 2-2-1985
actor: Linda Carroll "Hawthorne House"
10-28-1915 - Alwyn Kurts - Perth, Western Australia - d. 5-4-2000
performer: "Raising a Husband"
10-28-1915 - Dody Goodman - Columbus, OH - d. 6-22-2008
actor: "Hopalong Cassidy"; "Arthur Godfrey Show"
10-28-1917 - Ron Rawson - Iowa - d. 7-18-1994
announcer: "Right to Happiness"; "Advs. of Topper"; "Advs. of the Thin
Man"
10-28-1934 - Cecil Blackwood - Ackereman, MS - d. 11-13-2000
singer: (Blackwood Brothers Quartet) "Songs of the Gospel"
10-28-1934 - Johnny Western - Two Harbors, MN

October 28th deaths

01-26-1914 - Jack de Manio - Hampstead, England - d. 10-28-1988
announcer: "Today"; "Jack de Manio Precisely"; "Woman's Hour"
02-22-1891 - George Jeske - Utah - d. 10-28-1951
writer: "Truth or Consequences"
02-27-1893 - Maurice Spitalny - Tetieff, Russia - d. 10-28-1986
conductor: Music director for KDKA Pittsburgh
03-04-1910 - Miriam Kressyn - Poland - d. 10-28-1996
Was the most popular Yiddish artist on radio of her day
03-24-1918 - Bill Aya - d. 10-28-1985
sportscaster: KEVE Seattle, Washington
04-01-1917 - Leon Janney - Ogden, UT - d. 10-28-1980
actor: Danny Stratford "Life of Mary Sothern"; Richard Parker "Parker
Family"
05-27-1924 - Eric Lauder - Rugby, England - d. 10-28-1999
actor: "Violent Shore"
07-27-1918 - Veola Vonn - NYC - d. 10-28-1995
actor: Dimples Wilson "Blondie"; Princess Nadji "Chandu the Magician"
08-12-1927 - Porter Wagoner - West Plains, MO - d. 10-28-2007
singer: "Grand Ole Opry"
08-18-1917 - Mary Rolfe - Brooklyn NY - d. 10-28-1996
actor: Mary Aldrich "The Aldrich Family"; Rose O'Brien "Rose of My
Dreams"
08-29-1913 - Sylvia Fine - NYC - d. 10-28-1991
writer: (Wife of Danny Kaye) "Danny Kaye Show"; "Forecast"; "Bud's
Bandwagon"
09-15-1915 - Phil Brito - Boomer, WV - d. 10-28-2005
narrator: "Moon River"
09-16-1919 - Larry Dobkin - NYC - d. 10-28-2002
actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; Ellery Queen "Advs. of
Ellery Queen"
09-17-1907 - Alice Yourman - South Dakota - d. 10-28-2000
actor: Mary Andrews "Archie Andrews"; [removed] Aldrich "Aldrich Family"
09-20-1917 - Red Auerbach - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-28-2006
legendary baskeball coach: "The Inside Track"
10-06-1899 - Mitchell Leisen - Menominee, MI - d. 10-28-1972
director: Lux Radio Theatre
singer, actor, songwriter: (Ballad of Paladin) Daily show on KFDI
Wichita, KS
11-02-1892 - Alice Brady - NYC - d. 10-28-1939
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"

Ron

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:59:41 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  [removed] Ward pulp art now available

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:59:50 -0400
From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Chet Huntley and radio

It was interesting to read about the life of the woman who was married to
William Conrad and Chet Huntley, Tippy Stringer.  I had never heard of her
before, until Jack French wrote about her death on Monday.  Of course, Chet
Huntley was best known for his work on television with David Brinkley on
NBC's Huntley-Brinkley Report from 1956 until 1970.  But, he was a radio
newscaster before his TV years.  Huntley was on the air in Seattle, Spokane
and Portland, OR before working at KFI in Los Angeles from 1937 to 1939.  He
then worked for KNX radio in Hollywood in 1939 and on various CBS news
programs.  By 1943, he was also doing a 10-minute news analysis program on
CBS Pacific Coast radio stations. He stayed with KNX and CBS West Coast
until 1951, when he next worked at KECA radio and television in Hollywood
(ABC network), which later became KABC radio and TV.  Mr. Huntley left ABC
radio and TV for NBC-TV in 1955 as a West Coast reporter for The Today Show.
NBC then brought him to New York, and the rest is TV journalism history.

Jim Hilliker
Monterey, CA

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:00:25 -0400
From: Steve Darnall <fvpress@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Post-FOTR musings

Charlie, I apologize in advance if I go slightly off-topic, but as long as
folks are recounting last week's FOTR convention, I thought I might throw in
my two cents.

First of all, Jay and his fellow moderators do some great work and should be
lauded. As a dealer (with my Nostalgia Digest), I didn't get to do too much,
but I enjoyed the chance to see some familiar faces (including Charlie,
Martin, Mark and Karen from Radio Spirits, Maggie and Valerie Thompson, Paul
Curtis, etc.) and pick up some quality merchandise. I got the chance to meet
Joe Franklin and Chuck McCann and I had the chance to see three solid
re-creations on Thursday night (including an original play written by Digest
contributor Amanda Osborne, which was terrific). Like everyone else, I would
love to see a bigger turnout but I was pleasantly surprised by the number of
brand-new faces there. Hopefully that's the start of a trend.

NOW [removed] those interested in attending future shows, I should strongly
recommend staying anywhere but the Ramada, which we thought was an absolute
pit. We were surprised that the hotel policy steadfastly refused to provide
tissues to the room, and equally surprised to learn that one had to ask the
front desk to have the room made up (this didn't appear to be part of some
"Green" initiative, either). We were shocked by the fact that our room had
only one washcloth and that the bathroom fixtures were so poorly attached
that they threatened to come off in our hands. (I suppose at this point it
won't shock anyone to learn that the restaurant service was terrible as well.)

Then there were the [removed]

Again, I apologize if this goes "off topic" but I think it's an important
distinction to make: if you attend a future FOTR convention (and you should),
you'll have a great time; Jay and the gang do a great job and work hard to
bring it all together. You will have an even better time if you choose your
lodgings carefully.

Steve

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:00:30 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-29 births/deaths

October 29th births

10-29-1873 - Walter C. Kelly - Mineville, NY - d. 1-6-1939
actor: (The Virginia Judge) "The Eveready Hour"
10-29-1880 - Gleason L. Archer - Great Pond, ME - d. 6-28-1966
lecturer: "Laws That Safeguard Society"
10-29-1883 - William K. Wells - NYC - d. 4-17-1956
writer: "Under Arrest"
10-29-1889 - Anna Case - Clinton, NJ - d. 1-7-1984
singer/actor: WJZ New York City
10-29-1891 - Fanny Brice - NYC - d. 5-29-1951
comedian: Baby Snooks Higgins, "Baby Snooks"
10-29-1894 - Jack Pearl - NYC - d. 12-25-1982
comedian: Baron Munchausen "Baron and the Bee, Jack and Cliff, Jack
Pearl Show"
10-29-1897 - Hope Emerson - Hawarden, IA - d. 4-24-1960
actor: Henrietta Topper "Advs. of Topper"; Elsie the Cow "Happy Island"
10-29-1901 - Akim Tamiroff - Baku, Russia - d. 9-17-1972
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-29-1902 - Lillian Lee - d. 5-18-1987
actor: (Wife of Jack Kirkwood) "Jack Kirkwood Show"; "Fibber McGee and
Molly"
10-29-1903 - Olive Pell - Kalgoorlie, Australia - d. 1-xx-2002
writer: "Then Came the Day They Came"
10-29-1905 - Herbert Lateau - d. 3-xx-1984
producer: "The National Farm and Home Hour"
10-29-1908 - Robert K. Adams - d. 2-13-1981
actor: "Dr. Susan"; Hilltop House"; Your Family and Mine"
10-29-1908 - Ruth Russell - Peoria, IL
actor: Nancy Donovan "Just Plain Bill"; Kathy "Our Gal Sunday"
10-29-1909 - Virginia Clark - Peoria, IL
actor: Helen Trent "Romance of Helen Trent"
10-29-1910 - Lew Parker - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-27-1972
actor: John Bickerson "The Bickersons" "Mennen Shave Time with Lew
Parker"
10-29-1916 - Hadda Brooks - Los Angeles, CA - d. 11-21-2002
pianist: "Jubilee"
10-29-1921 - Bill Mauldin - Mountain Park, NM - d. 1-22-2003
cartoonist: "Command Performance"; "Armed Forces V-J Program"
10-29-1921 - Ed Kemmer - Reading, PA - d. 11-9-2004
actor: Buzz Corey "Space Patrol"
10-29-1922 - Neal Hefti - Hastings, NE - d. 10-11-2008
composer, et al: "Woody Herman Show"; "Manhattan Melodies"
10-29-1925 - Geraldine Brooks - NYC - d. 6-19-1977
actor: "Hollywood Fights Back"; "Voice of the Army"
10-29-1925 - Paul Daneman - London, England - d. 4-28-2001
actor: "The Hobbit"
10-29-1925 - Robert Hardy - Cheltenham, England
actor, writer: "The Leopard and the Lillies"
10-29-1933 - Douglas Cameron - Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England
presenter: "Today"; "double act"

October 29th deaths

01-14-1923 - Shirley (Ione) Cowell - Tulsa, OK - d. 10-29-1997
singer: "The Shirley Cowell Show"
02-18-1890 - Adolphe Menjou - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 10-29-1963
host: "Texaco Star Theatre"; "Eternal Light"; "Hallmark Playhouse"
02-18-1917 - Jack Slattery - Missouri - d. 10-29-1979
announcer: "House Party"; "You Bet Your Life"
02-29-1888 - Tess Sheehan - Ann Arbor, MI - d. 10-29-1972
actor: Dorrie Warren "Wendy Warren and the News"
03-08-1909 - Anthony Donato - Prague, NE - d. 10-29-1990
composer: "Surprise Serenade"
03-12-1905 - Milton Merlin - California - d. 10-29-1996
writer: "The Halls of Ivy"; "The Man Called X"; "Presenting Charles
Boyer"
03-xx-1896 - Billy Artzt - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-29-1949
orchestra leader: "Blondie"; "Myrt and Marge"; "Shirley Temple Time"
04-08-1921 - Franco Corelli - Ancona, Italy - d. 10-29-2003
operatic tenor: "Gala Performance"
04-12-1907 - Hubert Fincher - Waldo, AR - d. 10-29-1979
country music: "Crazy Water Crystals Barn Dance"
04-23-1924 - Norman Painting - Leamington Spa, England - d. 10-29-2009
actor: Phil Archer "The Archers"
05-16-1913 - Woody Herman - Milwaukee, WI - d. 10-29-1987
bandleader: (The Thundering Herd) "Wildroot Show"
06-07-1897 - Mann Holiner - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-29-1958
producer, director: "Baby Snooks Show"; "Frank Sinatra Show"; "Jubilee"
06-14-1908 - John Scott Trotter - Charlotte, NC - d. 10-29-1975
conductor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Philco Radio Time"
07-03-1919 - Fred Maddox - Boaz, AL - d. 10-29-1992
bass: "The Maddox Brothers and Rose"
07-04-1885 - Louis B. Mayer - Minsk, Byelorussia, Russian Empire - d.
10-29-1957
film executive: "Good News of 1938/39"; "Songs By Sinatra"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
07-06-1894 - Myra Marsh - Maine - d. 10-29-1964
actor: Dora Foster "A Date with Judy"; Mother "My Friend Irma"
07-13-1946 - Robert Caswell - Rockhampton, Australia - d. 10-29-2006
writer: "Little Lunches"; "The Phone Friend"
07-29-1924 - Lloyd Bochner - Toronto, Canada - d. 10-29-2005
actor: "The Chase"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
08-20-1908 - Al Lopez - Tampa, FL - d. 10-29-2005
baseball hall of fame: "Greatest Sports Thrills"; "Tops In Sports"
10-23-1922 - Ewell Blackwell - Fresno, CA - d. 10-29-1996
baseball pitcher: "Babe Didrickson Zaharius Sports Show"
12-14-1912 - Morey Amsterdam - Chicago, IL - d. 10-29-1996
comedian: "Morey Amsterdan Show"

Ron

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:00:47 -0400
From: "Ryan O" <ryano218@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Hall of Fantasy

Hi all. Was wondering if anyone could advise me on where to find and
purchase good quality copies of The Hall of Fantasy. I have found them
through several different sources but none of them are of high quality.

I know good quality copies are available because I had a couple of them that
I purchased from Adventures in Cassettes years ago. The sound quality was
very crisp and clear (that is, by the standards of otr.) I also remember
very listenable copies being broadcast on the Golden Age of Radio Theater
back in the 1980's.

Any help that can be offered would be much appreciated.

RyanO

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:01:05 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Thank you, Pepsi Cola fans!

Thanks to all of you who completed my Pepsi jingle!
And the one who sent us the alternate [removed]

Ted Kneebone. Old Time Radio:
[removed]

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:01:20 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Guess I started [removed]

Thanks for the Pepsi Cola jingle lines.  I didn't realize that I would get
this thing going.  There are a lot of other topics that are worth our time.
[removed]
Was Captain Marvel on the radio? or
Who subbed for Superman when Bud Collyer was ill?
Did the Lone Ranger ever have a girlfriend?
Did you know that "Cheerios" used to be "Cheerioats"?
Did any kids really like Kellogg's Pep?
Whatever happened to Kellogg's Krinkles?
Did anyone save those Green Room interviews that were on the
    New York Philharmonic broadcasts?
Where can I get the lecture by Sir Thomas Beecham that preceeded his 1949
recording of     the Messiah?
I guess that's enough for now.

Ted Kneebone. Old Time Radio:
[removed]

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:01:26 -0400
From: Lance Grider <rangegrider@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Calling a Fibber a Fibber

It was some time ago--back in June, in fact -- that the List had a brief
flurry
of activity about whether or not Marion Jordan, in her role as Molly, ever
overtly called her husband "Fibber" instead of the usual "McGee."  Only one
instance was eventually cited, from June 1943, when she called out his
complete
name, "Fibber McGee." Plying my time with diligent and fun research in the
months since, I am happy to cite the further and more exact corroboration of
the
April 9, 1940 episode, "Returning from Hollywood," when, at 16:30 minutes into
the broadcast, Molly enters the kitchen and cries out
"[removed]"
when she learns she has left her iron on and burnt out all the  fuses in the
house. I suspect other uses of the ineffable first-name-calling exist,
inevitably,  but it will take time to find them. What luck!

Lance Grider

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