Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #383
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 12/13/2005 4:18 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 383
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Future of Radio                       [ "david rogers" <david_rogers@hotmai ]
  Re: Check and Double Check -- at the  [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Mae West's Infamous Broadcast         [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
  Love Is In the Air                    [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  New website: [removed]                  [ "Xorlof" <xorlof@[removed]; ]
  a couple of things                    [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Did you know? ...                     [ "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@veri ]
  The Mad Masters                       [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]
  Mae West                              [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  12-13 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: Mae West                          [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  Jack Benny Stamp Gets Classy Sendoff  [ seandd@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:44:56 -0500
From: "david rogers" <david_rogers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Future of Radio

With regards to the posting on the "Future of Radio" I think that one of the
biggest changes for listeners like us, is the way that we record radio
shows.  As a young kid I remember trying to position my microphone in
relation to the radio speakers.  Then I remember my first cassette player
with a built in radio etc.  Now, with listening to so much radio through my
computer I record a lot either through "listen again" functions or I record
live using software.  I can't predict how this will develop, but I already
have software that can rip live audio streams and then edit those files
later.  Surely greater access to and editing of radio shows will be a
greater feature of future radio.

Love as always, David Rogers

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:53:26 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Check and Double Check -- at the Box
 Office

On 12/12/05 7:49 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

I'm reminded that RKO-Radio PIctures biggest money-maker of all
time prior to the 1933 release of the original "King Kong" was a little
picture starring Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll called "Check and Double
Check."

It was indeed the top grossing RKO film of the 1930-31 release season --
grossing $1,751,000 in its initial release, against a negative cost of
$967,000, for a net profit to RKO of $260,000. As can be seen from the
high negative cost, the film was far more expensive to produce than the
chintzy-looking final product might lead one to think -- Correll and
Gosden earned $250,000 plus a percentage of the gross, and RKO also had
to swallow the heavy network line costs for the 65 "Amos 'n' Andy"
episodes aired from Hollywood during the making of the film. That cut
deeply into the profit marginand may be responsible for the latter-day
myth that the film was a financial flop. But as these figures show,
whatever its artistic shortcomings, the film did make money.

However, it wasn't RKO's top pre-Kong grosser. That title belongs to the
1929 musical "Rio Rita," featuring Bebe Daniels and Wheeler and Woolsey
in a part-Technicolor film adaptation of the 1927 Ziegfeld stage show.
"Rita" was one of the blockbuster hits of the early talkie era, and edged
out "Check and Double Check" with a gross of $1,775,000 in its initial
release. "Rita's" negative cost was much much lower, though -- it only
cost RKO $678,000 to make the film, and that meant a whopping profit of
$935,000, far exceeding the final numbers for C&DC.

Elizabeth

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:53:40 -0500
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mae West's Infamous Broadcast

I have one question that I haven't noticed being addressed concerning
Mae West on Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy's Chase and Sanborn
program: Was this program only aired once?  I thought most programs of
that era had an East Coast and West Coast [removed] a second West
Coast broadcast was done it would be interesting to know whether the
"scandalous" reading was kept, or if it was toned-down for that
audience.

Michael Shoshani
Chicago

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:44:55 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Love Is In the Air

Paul Adomites asked,

Our local theater group is again discussing having an OTR night <snip>
I'm asking the folks who know for ideas. This one is scheduled for
February (around Valentine's Day) so naturally a love story would be
great.

I'm posting my suggestion to the Digest, because I can't provide the
precise date.  In the episode, Julius Abbruzzio is in love, and asks Phil
and Remley to hide in the bushes and serenade him and his girlfriend as
they walk by.  However, unknown to Phil and Frankie, the girlfriend has
other [removed]   The first part is slow, but the last part is extremely
hilarious.

The problem is, I can't remember when it aired, or what it was called.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:45:08 -0500
From: "Xorlof" <xorlof@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  New website: [removed]

Hi everyone. I just though I would email all of you to announce my new Old
Time Radio website, [removed]. The only thing you'll find there right now
are about 10,000 OTR shows that you can listen to. PLEASE let me know of any
problems you find--big or small--including typos; there are probably a bunch
of them in the titles of the shows.

This list is the only place I'm announcing [removed] today, but if you like it
feel free to tell others. Go ahead and stress-test it for me. :-)

Feedback whether positive or negative is appreciated. You can take it
off-list if appropriate.

Thank you,
-xorlof

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:10:25 -0500
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  a couple of things

Hi everybody,

a couple of things in the last digest I would like to mention.  Frank Bresee
will feature his interview and Christmas segment with Mae west on the Friday
night show of 12-23-05 at 7-30 PM West Coast time on YUSA
[removed]  The Mae  spot will probably be played around 9 PM.
The POW show was a 1952 Cavalcade of America broadcast.  Thanks to those who
help me figure out that piece of info.

Merry Christmas to all,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:19:02 -0500
From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Did you know? ...

Hi People,

I have some information about Myron ("Mike")) Wallace floating around in my
little pea brain that I'm not too sure about how many folks may know about.
Sorry if everyone knows this, but I'd thought I'd share it with someone who
might not.

Did you know that Mike Wallace sold Peter Pan Peanut Butter for several
years on the "Sky King" show?  He also sold Raleigh Cigarettes on "A Life In
Your Hands" in the late 1940's.  I must not have been listening when he sold
cigarettes on "Suspense," because that one sailed right by me.

He also did some radio acting, appearing as Flamonde in the early days of
"The Crime Files of Flamonde," when it was broadcast locally on WGN Chicago,
on Tuesday evenings in the early '40's.  Also, he also played various roles
on "The Adventurers' Club," when it was broadcast in a juvenile timeslot on
CBS on Saturday mornings in--I believe--the late '40's.

kBuck Saunders

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:24:08 -0500
From: DanHaefele@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Mad Masters
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Andrew Steinberg wants  to know the correct date of the one episode of The
Mad Masters which is in  circulation.  That program originated through
SPERDVAC.
 I checked the  transcription discs and the broadcast date is March 19, 1946.

Dan  Haefele

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:38 -0500
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mae West

Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:39:49 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];

Thank you, Elizabeth, for yet another really fascinating and detailed account of an event in 
radio history.  

Frankly, if anyone should have been called on the carpet for this
incident, it's Janet MacRorie -- the head of NBC Continuity Acceptance
at the time, with whom the buck was supposed to stop on all matters of
script clearance, and who clearly must have been fast asleep when this
particular script was moving thru the system.
 
Yes, given some of the stories we've all heard about the censorship practiced by the 
networks, it's hard to see how that skit, and the other sexual innuendo on the show, could 
have gotten by the networks. Obviously, the script clearance people were a more appropriate 
scapegoat, but probably not the one who would have fulfilled the public's taste for blood at 
the time.

Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:35:33 -0500
From: "Jim Widner" <widnerj@[removed];

According to an interview I heard with either Edgar Bergen or Don
Ameche (can't recall which) the whole issue was not in the writing,
but HOW Mae West actually delivered the lines.  

Well, I suppose, but she didn't deliver lines any differently than she did in any of her movies.  
If you hire Mae West, you shouldn't be surprised if you get Mae West.

Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:46:19 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];

Some people today may wonder what the big deal is when they listen to
the broadcast, but remember that Janet Jackson only wore the costume,
and it was she who got embarrassed on National Television 
 
Somewhere on the Internet, I'm sure you can still find uncensored pictures, and they clearly 
show that Janet had a metallic ornament on her nipple.  It's hard to see why she would have 
put an ornament like that on her breast if she didn't intend it to be displayed.  I think the 
whole thing was blown way out of proportion, but it was  no accident, and I don't think she 
was embarrassed at all.

-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax [removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:48 -0500 From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: 12-13 births/deaths December 13th births 12-13-1887 - Alvin York - Pall Mall, TN - d. 12-2-1964 world war I hero: "We the People"; "What Are We Fighting For?" 12-13-1890 - Marc Connelly - McKeesport, PA - d. 12-21-1980 writer: "Free Company"; "Security Workshop"; "Lux Radio Theatre" 12-13-1897 - Drew Pearson - Evanston, IL - d. 9-1-1969 investigative reporter: "Listen America"; "Drew Pearson Comments" 12-13-1905 - Jay Jostyn - Milwaukee, WI - d. 7-24-1977 actor: Max Tilley "Life of Mary Sothern"; Mr, District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney" 12-13-1910 - Lillian Roth - Boston, MA - d. 5-12-1980 singer, speaker: "Pleasant Sunday Afternoon" 12-13-1910 - Van Heflin - Walter, OK - d. 7-23-1971 actor: Bob Drake "Betty and Bob"; "Philip Marlowe "Advs. of Philip Marlowe" 12-13-1913 - Jimmy Carroll - New York, NY - d. 3-19-1972 singer: "Pot O' Gold" 12-13-1914 - Larry Parks - Olathe, KS - d. 4-13-1975 actor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Faith for Tomorrow"; "Guest Star" 12-13-1915 - Mark Stevens - Cleveland, OH (Raised: Montreal Canada) - d. 9-15-1994 actor: "This Is Hollywood"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Suspense" 12-13-1917 - David Street - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-3-1971 actor, singer: "Music Depreciation" 12-13-1920 - Don Taylor - Freeport, PA - d. 12-29-1998 actor: "Indiana School of the Sky"; "Family Theatre"; "Hollywood Star Preview" 12-13-1926 - Carl Erskine - Anderson, IN baseball pitcher: "Baseball: An Action History"; "Dr. Norman Vincent Peale" 12-13-1939 - Moe Keale - Niihau, HI - d. 4-15-2002 local disc jockey December 13th deaths 02-15-1908 - Hugh Wedlock, Jr. - d. 12-13-1993 writer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Lum and Abner"; "That's My Pop" 02-23-1913 - Jon Hall - Fresno, CA - d. 12-13-1979 actor: "Texaco Star Theatre"; "Silver Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre" 02-27-1873 - Enrico Caruso - Naples, Italy - d. 8-2-1921 tenor: On 12-13-1910 made experimental broadcast with Lee DeForest 04-18-1904 - Pigmeat Markham - Durhan, N - d. 12-13-1981 comedian: (Originated phrase "order in the court ' cuz here come da judge) "Jubilee" 07-18-1908 - Martha Mears - d. 12-13-1986 singer: "G. I. Laffs" 07-19-1906 - "Tiny" Hill - Sullivan, IL - d. 12-13-1971 orchestra leader: "Tiny" Hill and His Orchestra" 08-08-1904 - Ray Buffum - d. 12-13-1980 writer, director: "A Man Named Jordan"; "Rogue's Gallery" 09-06-1891 - John Charles Thomas - Meyersdale, PA - d. 12-13-1960 singer: "John Charles Thomas Program"; "Westinghouse Program" 11-24-1905 - Harry Barris - New York, NY (R: Denver, CO) - d. 12-13-1962 singer (member of The Rhythm Boys) "Paul Whiteman Presents" -- Ron Sayles Milwaukee, Wisconsin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:23:23 -0500 From: Dixonhayes@[removed] To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Re: Mae West X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain In a message dated 12/12/05 6:50:22 PM Central Standard Time, [removed]@[removed] writes:
According to an interview I heard with either Edgar Bergen or Don Ameche
(can't recall which) the whole issue was not in the writing, but HOW Mae
West actually delivered the lines.

In my recording of the show, the joke in the "Adam and Eve" sketch that seems
to get the biggest response has to do with "Eve" (West) saying she might want
to do the "Big Apple" later.  That gets a nervous but heavy laugh and might
be what freaked everyone out, though it hardly seems that bad.

Dixon

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:40:40 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny Stamp Gets Classy Sendoff

The Chicago Tribune, one of America's oldest and most influential daily
newspapers, devoted an editorial this Sunday to the Jack Benny stamp campaign
- a huge PR triumph for Laura Leff, her PR man and her organization.

It is unfortunate that the editorial was lambasting the post office for not
issuing a Jack Benny 39-cent stamp and not celebrating victory - but as a
professional publicist myself I can say that it is a really big deal to
provoke an editorial in a paper of that stature with an unfunded campaign.

You can read the editorial online here:
[removed]

Hats off -

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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