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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 201
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  pizza roll commercial                 [ David Howell <daveeaston@[removed]; ]
  Re: Pizza rolls                       [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
  Stan Freberg LONE RANGER commercial   [ SanctumOTR@[removed] ]
  This week in radio history 6/13-20    [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Barbara Whiting                       [ Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  Regarding the Lone Rangerr commercia  [ "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed] ]
  3 new shows                           [ edcarr@[removed] ]
  Great Old Aircheck                    [ <nancys_upriver_newscompany@netzero ]
  6-13 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: "Hi-Yo, Schmidler!"               [ Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed]; ]
  Irene Manning                         [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Presidential funerals on radio        [ Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed] ]
  Pizza Rolls and the Lone Ranger       [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Ronald Reagan's interesting life pro  [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
  My First Radio Premium                [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:13:23 -0400
From: David Howell <daveeaston@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  pizza roll commercial

That was the Geno's Pizza Rolls commercial by Stan Freberg.

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:14:20 -0400
From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Pizza rolls

Fred sez:

Several years ago, some pizza roll manufacturer [Jeno's] put the grabbus
on the
"William Tell" overture to hawk his product.  However, some time
previous to that, Lark cigarettes had also used the same theme (the 4th
section of the overture, as used for The Lone Ranger).

That was one of the classic ads produced by the great Stan Freberg. (It's
available, along with a number of his other TV spots, in the Freberg box set
from Rhino.)

The Jeno's ad was a takeoff on the Lark cigarette "Show us your Lark pack"
ads; I don't recall the Lark ads using the Wm. Tell music (it's been over
forty years, after all) so Fred may be correct about that detail.

Joe Cline ([removed])

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:14:53 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Stan Freberg LONE RANGER commercial

In a message dated 6/12/04 11:13:00 AM, [removed]@[removed]
writes:

Several years ago, some pizza roll manufacturer put the grabbus on the
"William Tell" overture to hawk his product.

***The commercial you mention was conceived by the brilliant Stan Freberg,
star of radio's THAT'S RICH and THE STAN FREBERG SHOW, and host of Radio
Spirits' WHEN RADIO WAS. --Anthony Tollin

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:15:04 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 6/13-20

 From Those Were The Days --

6/13

1944 - The wire recorder was patented by Marvin Camras.

6/14

1922 - A [removed] President was heard on the radio for the first time.
President Warren G. Harding dedicated the Francis Scott Key Memorial and
was heard on WEAR in Baltimore.

1950 - Harold Peary played the leading role of The Great Gildersleeve
one final time. Willard Waterman took Peary's place in the role.

6/15

1936 - Al Jolson and Ruby Keeler starred in Burlesque on the Lux Radio
Theatre.

6/17

1942 - Suspense, known as radio's outstanding theatre of thrills,
debuted on CBS. The program kept millions of loyal listeners in suspense
for the next 20 years (and three months, for the purists <g> -ed)

6/18

1939 - CBS aired The Adventures of Ellery Queen for the first time. An
interesting twist came near the end of the program when the show was
stopped to allow a panel of experts to guess the solution of the night's
mystery.

1961 - Gunsmoke was broadcast for the last time on CBS. The show had
been on for nine years. It was called the first adult Western. The star
of Gunsmoke was William Conrad.

6/19

1934 - The [removed] Congress established the Federal Communications
Commission (FCC). The task of the commission was to regulate radio
broadcasting.

Joe

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:15:19 -0400
From: Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Barbara Whiting

Radio, film and TV actress Barbara Whiting has died in Pontiac, Michigan at
age 73 from cancer. She is best remembered to OTR fans for her regular roles
on "Junior Miss" and "Meet Corliss Archer." She also appeared on "Hollywood
Star Time." She acted in several films in the 1940's and 50s. She was the
sister of singer Margaret Whiting who was a vocalist on many radio programs
of the era. Their father was composer Richard Whiting who wrote hundreds of
songs including "Hooray For Hollywood." Barbara starred with her sister in
"Those Whiting Girls," a TV show that ran from 1955 to 1957. Her sister
Margaret survives.

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:15:30 -0400
From: "John Abbott" <mraastro@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Regarding the Lone Rangerr commercial

In his post about the Jenos Pizzaroll commercial, Fred Hillman forgot, I am
sure, to note that a great fan of OTR - Stan Freberg - made that commercial.

John C. Abbott

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:52:19 -0400
From: edcarr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  3 new shows
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Hi quick note
very shortly i will let out 3 new shows not avalible before
if interested in obtaining these please email me at
edcarr@[removed]
the shows most of you would probably like are
sam spade
Sep 25, 1949  Sun  170  Chargo Gagog Mancho Gagog Chabuna
                            Munga Mog Caper
or as sam says the indian caper
col humprey flack, a congenial con artist, i may have the only complete 16in
discs
of this show
and one of the jeanette mcdonald type, called voices down the wind, from wgy
4/22/46
i will put any 2 shows when ready on a cd
these still need a touch up so it will be a short time yet
but if truly interested send name etc, i will need at least 20 people so i
can recoup my
investment
ed

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:53:56 -0400
From: <nancys_upriver_newscompany@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Great Old Aircheck

We came across this aircheck from the reel radio website.

It was on WEAF's 30 year anniversary (1952).

iT FEATURES Bob and Ray and FRED ALLEN helping them
celebrate WEAF/WNBC's anniversary.

Try not to fall off your chairs at the Bob and Ray
Get-away-car offer or Fred's explanation of the first
listener who mmade it all possible.

The particular web address follows.
[removed]#wnbc082852

The web-site itself is [removed]

Hope you enjoy it as much as we.

Have to run to the post office to get a post card to send in for the
get-aaway-car special.

Regards,
Larry (and Nancy) Hall

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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:54:08 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  6-13 births/deaths

June 13th births

06-13-1890 - Elmer Davis - Aurora, IN - d. 5-18-1958
newscaster: "Elmer Davis and the News"
06-13-1892 - Basil Rathbone - Johannesburg, South Africa - d. 7-21-1967
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"; Inspector Burke "Scotland Yard's
Inspector Burke"
06-13-1900 - Ian Hunter - Kenilworth, South Africa - d. 9-24-1975
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "[removed] Steel Hour"
06-13-1903 - Jack Fulton - Philipsburg, PA - d. 10-17-1993
singer: "Paul Whiteman's Painters Show"; "Moon River"
06-13-1913 - Bob Bailey - Toeldo, OH - d. 8-13-1983
actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; George Valentine "Let
George Do It"
06-13-1913 - Ralph Edwards - Merino, CO
host, announcer: "Truth or Consequences"; "This Is Your Life"; "Original
Amateur Hour"
06-13-1916 - Mary Wickes - St. Louis, MO - d. 10-22-1995
actress: Louise "Meet Corliss Archer"; Irma Barker "Lorenzo Jones"
06-13-1920 - Ben Johnson - Pawnee, OK - d. 4-8-1996
actor: "Francis Burke for Attorney General"

June 13th deaths

05-30-1909 - Benny Goodman - Chicago, IL - d. 6-13-1986
bandleader: (King of Swing) "Camel Caravan"; "Victor Borge Show"
06-14-1874 - Major Edward Bowes - San Francisco, CA - d. 6-13-1946
emcee: "Capitol Family"; "Original Amateur Hour"
07-20-1919 - [removed] Stevens - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-13-1994
actress: Lois Graves "Junior Miss"
07-26-1896 - Charles Butterworth - South Bend, IN - d. 6-13-1946
comedian: "Fred Astaire Show"
07-28-1912 - George Cisar - IL - d. 6-13-1979
actor: Tim "Tena and Tim"
10-10-1913 - Johnny Downs - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-13-1994
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-20-1907 - Fran Allison - La Porte City, IA - d. 6-13-1989
actress, singer: Aunt Fanny, "Breakfast Club"; "National Barn Dance"; "Uncle
Ezra"
11-22-1924 - Geraldine Page - Kirksville, MO - d. 6-13-1987
actress: "Arch Oboler's Plays"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:01:33 -0400
From: Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  "Hi-Yo, Schmidler!"
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At 12:18 PM 6/12/04, you wrote:

Dear Folks-
And there is, as they say on PBS, "an excellent companion to this book", in
the form of Lister Max Schmid's long interview with Jones, from his stalwart
GOLDEN AGE OF RADIO show. Mayhaps it's still available from that
many-tentacled conglomerate "Schmidco"?
Best,
-Craig "OTR, NTR - if it's good, it's Good" Wichman

I have that interview somewhere. If there's any interest, I could dig it out.

And while I have the floor, let me invite everyone to tune in this Sunday to
hear Jack French talk about his new book "Private Eyelashes" Radio's Lady
Detectives. The show is scheduled for today (assuming this Digest launches
on Sunday) June 13 at 7 pm.

We'll hear an episode of Phil Coe Mysteries and as many clips as I can find
before show time, ending the show with a complete half-hour of one of the
featured distaff dicks.

It will be a great way to spend your Sunday evening, so tune in to [removed] FM
in NYC,
or listen in on the web [removed]

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:41:55 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Irene Manning

Irene Manning, who had a supporting role in "Yankee
Doodle Dandy" and other musicals from the 1940s, died
on May 28. I haven't seen any mention of her passing
here. The NY Times obit is at
[removed]

Goldin's index lists seven OTR appearances for her, at
[removed],+Irene&ArtistNumber=14839

Kermyt

	
		

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:42:41 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Presidential funerals on radio

I think it fair to say that the most famous radio coverage of a Presidential
funeral -- or at least cortege -- was that done for CBS from Washington by
Arthur Godfrey.  He was one of several announcers describing the procession
carrying the body of Franklin Delano Roosevelt through Washington along a
route to the [removed] Capitol similar to that traveled last week by Ronald
Reagan.

I think that the coverage of the Reagan observation will probably go down in
history as the most famous television coverage, or perhaps a tie with the
remarkable events which unfolded around the death of John F. Kennedy.  All
three epitomized the state of the broadcasting art as it stood in the time of
each.  For my part, both the Kennedy and Reagan coverage renewed and
confirmed my oft-expressed feeling that while television falls vastly short
of its enormous, usually untapped potential 99% of the time, it is just this
sort of event in which the medium proved its ability and worth, with its
finest hours of covering an important historical event.

In this most recent instance, I think that many if not most of the television
newsmen quite sagely realized that the best thing for them to do was to just
shut up and let the visual medium show what was happening, as it took place.
It and they conveyed solemnity when it was called for, humor when that eased
the sorrow as that was needed, and good taste, outstanding timing, excellent
reporting, and a strong sense of history.

Speaking of history and how it unfolds, the Arthur Godfrey FDR item had
something unique going for it.  Some years after it occurred via live
transmission, Edward R. Murrow and Fred W. Friendly included just a tiny
piece of it in their album of "Hear It Now" which covered the year 1945.  It
impressed a whole new generation and revived the memories of older folk who
perhaps had forgotten having heard it live, and gave an opportunity to hear
it for those who either listened not at all, or heard the FDR coverage on
NBC, Mutual, or shortwave.

In my researches on Mr. Godfrey, I've been told that the recordings from
which the "Hear It Now" team took their revealing but all-too-brief excerpt
actually contained much more of the CBS material from the nation's capital.
I've heard estimates ranging from 45 minutes to over an hour, and that might
include observations by other announcers from other remote locations along
the line of march.  It did, I am told, contain more than one feed from Mr.
Godfrey.  I have no idea what kind of coverage there may have been from
either end of the actual procession through the streets, before and after the
point when it passed the theater marquee on which he stood, nor whether Mr.
Godfrey provided any of that.  I doubt it.  But he did describe more of the
procession and events surrounding it, than just that time when the caisson
passed in front of him, and when he could look behind it and speak about the
following car bearing the new President,  Harry S Truman.

Interestingly, Mr. Godfrey throughout his subsequent career sometimes
mentioned how embarrassed he was that he had broken up and lost control
during that broadcast.  Many of us with broadcasting credits have perhaps had
the same thing happen.  The most famous other example was Herb Morrison on
the scene of the Hindenburg explosion, but of course that was not a live
broadcast.  It was an unusual but sort of routine thing being recorded for
future use, almost like a newspaper society column denoting which of
Morrison's Chicago hometown folk were coming in on the dirigible.   The idea
was to interview them as they landed, when suddenly literally all hell broke
lose.

After his FDR broadcast, a mortified Arthur Godfrey asked his superiors at
CBS to never ask him to provide coverage for such an emotional event.  He
said he was not a newsman, and just could not handle it.  Yet it was his very
emotional and enthusiastic nature which made Mr. Godfrey such a broadcasting
success, and his reputation as the world's greatest salesman.  He got
enthusiastic not only about his sponsors' products, but about ideas and
concerns which he felt were important to America.

Despite his career-long embarrassment about the incident, when it came time
for Mr. Godfrey's final broadcast when his daily show went off the air in
1972, the the very last thing he did on the very last program, was to play
that excerpt from "Hear It Now".  I think he did it because he knew that he
would undoubtedly break up in the last minutes of his last broadcast.  He
sort of set the stage for his exit by playing that famous excerpt from his
single most famous broadcast, and then making his good-bye, when indeed he
did begin to lose control in the last few seconds.  What he did not mention
was that it was in part the response to his emotional FDR broadcast which
convinced the CBS powers that be (especially Frank Stanton) at the network
headquarters in New York, that jumped his career from being a staff announcer
and personality/deejay in Washington to being the biggest thing that CBS and
indeed broadcasting itself ever had.

Mr. Godfrey also did not mention that his emotion was in part due to the fact
that he knew both President and Mrs. Franklin Roosevelt personally.  It was
Commander-in-Chief Roosevelt that over-ruled the [removed] Navy in the late 1930s
when Mr. Godfrey asked for a Naval officer's commission, so that he could
contribute to the coming war effort.   Navy medicos, citing Mr. Godfrey's
severe injuries from a horrendous auto crash years before, said he was in no
shape to serve, and denied his application.  When this was brought to the
President's attention, FDR called in his Naval aide and asked if he ever
tried to follow Godfrey around through his busy daily schedule.  Then he
looked up at the officer standing next to him and said something along the
lines of  "I can't get out of this &%$#)*()+_+(*+ wheelchair, and I'm the
Commander-in-Chief!  Give him his commission!"  This was taken as a direct
order, and the broadcaster became Lt. Cmdr. Arthur M. Godfrey, [removed] Navy
Reserve.  Eventually he became a full Commander, and years later at the
personal request of [removed] Air Force General Curtis Lemay (before he was
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), the broadcaster transferred to the
Air Force, and ultimately retired as full "bird" Colonel Arthur M. Godfrey,
[removed] Res. Ret.

I'd say he well merited the faith put in him by his departed friend Franklin
Roosevelt, and another ex-military type, Dwight D. Eisenhower, who had urged
Mr. Godfrey to consider a senior post within his Presidency.  But Ike decided
along with his political advisers that it was more important for his
administration and the country to have Mr. Godfrey stay right where he was,
broadcasting every day where he could raise and discuss issues of importance
for the nation, and in today's jargon, "float trial balloons" on behalf of
that administration.

If anyone reading this has any idea where I can get the expanded recordings
of the Godfrey FDR broadcasts, I will certainly appreciate knowing about it.
Please contact me off-list if you prefer.  And thanks so much for your help.

Lee Munsick

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:43:13 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Pizza Rolls and the Lone Ranger

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:46:11 -0400
From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];

Quick cut to Clayton Moore dressed as the Ranger, who said, "And I'd
like to talk to YOU about the same thing."  I think that Jay
Silverheels (dressed as Tonto) interjected, "Have a pizza roll, Kemo
Sabe."  

And at the end of the commercial, someone said, "Who was that masked man, anyway?"  
And someone else said, "I don't know, and I wanted to thank him!"  Then from off-camera 
came the sound of the Lone Ranger shouting, "Hi Yo Pizza Rolls, Away!"

-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:46 -0400 From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Ronald Reagan's interesting life progression Let me begin by saying that I wholeheartedly agree with Charlie's request to keep politics out of the Digest unless it pertains to OTR or at least the OTR era. And yet I feel compelled to remark about Reagan's amazing list of accomplishments in his lifetime. Let's face it, the progression from radio sportscaster to Leader of the free world is one of those "rags to riches-only in America" type stories that would be hard to swallow if it wasn't true. My question for Digest readers is this: What other radio performers come to mind as examples of someone who's career as an entertainer faded out, but they moved on to far greater accomplishments in their personal life? For example, Jerry Lewis (Martin and Lewis Show 1949-'53) went on to head the Muscular Dystrophy Assn. And didn't Bud Abbott become mayor of a town in California? And, of course, Hal Stone became one of my favorite authors in his later years. Any other examples come to mind? -FIBBERMAC- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:11:24 -0400 From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: My First Radio Premium Many of us who grew up in the 1940s sent for many radio premiums, and some of us are considered experts on them because we had them when they were offered. Some of us have extended our knowledge of premiums by collecting others we'd never had but have heard of. But what was our very first radio premium? Mine was the Chick Carter Inner Circle Seal. My mother had been listening to Nick Carter, Master Detective, and I started to tune in to Chick Carter, Boy Detective. In time, there was an offer for the Inner Circle Seal, which I asked my mother to send for. It came, and consisted of a series of stamps like the postage variety. The logo was a solid red circle surrounded by a concentric red circle with breaks at the top and bottom on a field of white. Once I got them, I wasn't sure exactly what to do with them. I was a little young (in the Second Grade), and didn't have any other Inner Circle friends to share "official" notes with. The interesting thing about that premium is that in Tomart's Guide doesn't even list Chick Carter premiums! Stephen A. Kallis, Jr. -------------------------------- End of [removed] Digest V2004 Issue #201 ********************************************* Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved, including republication in any form. If you enjoy this list, please consider financially supporting it: [removed] For Help: [removed]@[removed] To Unsubscribe: [removed]@[removed] To Subscribe: [removed]@[removed] or see [removed] For Help with the Archive Server, send the command ARCHIVE HELP in the SUBJECT of a message to [removed]@[removed] To contact the listmaster, mail to listmaster@[removed] To Send Mail to the list, simply send to [removed]@[removed]