Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #316
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/18/2003 6:39 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 316
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Two Smoke Dreams songs                [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
  SPIKE JONES                           [ oldpdb@[removed] (Paul Barringer) ]
  iRiver CD player                      [ zbob@[removed] ]
  home disk recorders, old radio/phono  [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Re: Syndication Shelf Life            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Going My Way                          [ John Francis MacEachern <johnfmac@c ]
  Eliott Lewis                          [ "Mike Mackey" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  1968 War Of The Worlds                [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Re: Walden Hughes on Yesterday USA    [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
  Harry Bartell                         [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  re: guess what                        [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  Dan Reid/Jim Beasly                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Hello all!                            [ "Stephen Bauer" <viajero97@hotmail. ]
  'Backstage Wife' and 'Direct From Tr  [ "Shawn A. Wells" <sawellsotr@earthl ]

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:27:08 -0400
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Two Smoke Dreams songs

    Kenneth C. asked about the song titled "Smoke Dreams" from an old Thin
Man movie.

    *Smoke Dreams - by Freed and Brown - 'After the Thin Man' movie

    *Smoke Dreams - by Klenner/Shaffer/Steele  - used by Chesterfield on OTR

    *(Smoke Rings -  by Gifford/Washington)

    Three different songs.   Lee Munsick wrote about the two "Smoke Dreams"
songs in issue #312.  Confirmation and more info, for example, on [removed]
web site: "After the Thin Man" -- click on 'soundtrack listing' on left
side.

-- Phil C.

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:13:47 -0400
From: oldpdb@[removed] (Paul Barringer)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  SPIKE JONES

Although this is not OTR related, it does follow the discussion posted
about Spike Jones.

I read that Chester Gould (The artist of Dick Tracy in the comic strips)
was a big fan of Spike Jones and sat in with Spike and his City Slickers
when they played in Chicago.

He had Spike Jones appear in his strip a couple of times as "Spike
Dyke", my question, does any of the members on this site remember the
appearance of Spike Dyke in the strip, and if so are there any strips
with Spike in them available?

Dick Tracy was one of my childhood favorites, but I do not remember the
character.

Thanks for any help.

Paul

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:14:07 -0400
From: zbob@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  iRiver CD player

Amazon delivery was almost instantaneous - Friday to Wednesday.
I have to get some kind of carrier as it has no handles, etc. of any kind so
has to fit in a pouch for carrying.
40-odd pages of instructions. Has 'resume' function as mentioned, mentioned
pages 17 - 19 (maybe more?)   Plays thru my hifi nicely.  Take me a while to
figure out all the bells & [removed]

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:17:32 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  home disk recorders, old radio/phono advice

Someone posted an inquiry about home disk recorders, which would cut an
audio signal onto a lacquer
disk.  I saw one of these for the first time today at an indoor flea market
in Columbus, OH.

It was a Wilcox-Gay machine, in a portable configuration like a suitcase.
It was perhaps the size of one of those big portable tape recorders that
came along in the late 1940's.  No model number was shown, and the machine
didn't seem to be in good condition.  There was a platter for the disk, and
on this platter, perhaps two inches from the center post, was a small
spring-loaded pin which engaged the lacquer disk and kept it in
registration.

There were two 'tone arms,' one for recording and one for playback.  The
recording arm was very stout and square and thick.  It moved freely back and
forth when I picked it up, but I could feel it trying to engage what was
probably a gear or a screw beneath the deck as I moved it above the platter.
  The cutting head wasn't visible, but it used a removable cutting 'needle'
that presumably had to be replaced with an arrangement similar to that of
the old Victrolas.  None of these cutting needles were present, so I don't
know what they looked like.  There were, however, a couple of covered
containers for their storage on the machine deck.

There was also a glass plate that covered what was possibly a radio tuning
dial (so you could record broadcasts) and an 'eye' tube that presumably
showed the audio level available to the cutting head and/or the strength of
the broadcast signal.  The whole thing had a cover that was hinged like a
suitcase.  In the cover was a spindle to hold a small collection of disks.

And, lest we forget what the world was like in the 1940's, the machine had a
built-in ashtray set into the deck.  At least it looked like an ashtray:
cigarette grooves, familiar detritus within, just like an old automobile
ashtray.  The price was $[removed], I think.  It would have taken a lot of work
to restore.

. .................................................

I would advise people who are interested in old radios and phonographs to
look at a particular usenet group in which I used to participate.  I think
it's [removed]+phono.

Be careful, though: the character of the newsgroup has changed several
times, and it has at times been co-opted by antique dealers who aren't of
the best reputation.  I haven't seen it for a year, but I'm told that it has
been once again been redeemed by hobbyists and restorers.

(And beware of buying one of those old wind-up phonographs with a polished
brass horn thinking it is an antique: they are reproductions made in India.
They look cool, though.)

Mark Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]~mkinsler1

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:17:32 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Syndication Shelf Life

On 8/17/03 9:00 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

How long did a syndicated program, especially 1930s/early 40s programs,
generally stay available for broadcast.  For example, the syndicated Witch's
Tales of the 1930s.  Were these 1930s programs withdrawn fairly quickly or
did they continue on into the 40s and 50s?

It depended on the series -- some programs were packaged and repackaged
endlessly, while others were basically burned out in a single release.
And others were contracturally limited to a single run in selected
markets only.

Among the programs which had a very long shelf life were "The Air
Adventures of Jimmie Allen," which was repackaged and reissued several
times between 1934 and the mid-1940s, "The Funniest Things with Cecil and
Sally," which was in first-run syndication from 1930 to 1933 and was
still being rerun as late as 1939,  and many programs produced during the
early and mid-1930s by the Radio Transcription Company of America,
Limited -- which were sold off in bulk to an independant distributor, and
were still airing occasionally on peanut-whistle stations nearly twenty
years after they were originally produced. Old or obsolete program
material appealed primarily to the lowest-budget stations in the most
backwater sorts of markets -- stations that would put *anything* on the
air, as long as it was cheap.

More often, though, syndicated programs had a short run and then
disappeared. The "Witch's Tale" syndications were still around in some
markets as late as 1938-39, but I've never seen them listed anywhere
during the 1940s. Given the amount of new material being introduced each
season, there seemed to be little point in keeping a backlog of older
programming in circulation.

Elizabeth

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:56:10 -0400
From: John Francis MacEachern <johnfmac@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Going My Way

Hi!

Could anyone tell me if the Bing Crosby movie "Going My Way"
was ever done on radio?  Are any copies available?

Thanks.

John Mac

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:57:55 -0400
From: "Mike Mackey" <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Eliott Lewis

Yes. As I understand it, it was OTR's Eliott Lewis who produced the
Lucy Show and it was his second wife, Mary Jane Croft Lewis, who
played Lucy's best friend "Mary Jane".

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:57:43 -0400
From: ilamfan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
Subject:  1968 War Of The Worlds

     I've just been doing some work with all of these different versions I
have of "The War Of The Worlds" - I have a few questions:
     Are there any copies of the 1949 Quito, Equidor version?  I realize that
it wouldn't be in English (right?), but it would be neat to have a copy.
Maybe all copies were destroyed?  With the angry mob of listeners actually
burning the radio station to the ground (killing 20 employees, and injuring a
dozen others), I could understand some people wanting the entire incident
to "disappear".
     Also, is there anyone out there who has a copy of the 1968 WKBW "War Of
The Worlds" broadcast?  I have the very similar 1971 version, but would
prefer to have the original - evidently it starts a bit slower, lasts a bit
longer, and has different music and opening DJ.  I REALLY want to acquire
this 1968 show, it sounds very, very good.
     By the way, if anyone hasn't heard the 1971 version, it is at:
     [removed]
     It is a phenomenal version, with top-notch acting (by real radio
personalities) great sound effects - as good or better than the original
Mercury Theater production.
     If anyone can help me find these shows, please let me know offlist:
ilamfan@[removed]  Thank you very much!

Stephen Jansen
--
Old Time Radio never dies - it
just changes formats!

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:20:19 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

 From Those Were The Days --

1937 - The first FM radio construction permit was issued. It went to
W1X0J, Boston, MA. The station went on the air as WGTR (General Tire &
Rubber) in 1941.

Joe

--
Visit my homepage:  [removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:35:05 -0400
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Walden Hughes on Yesterday USA

dantrigg422@[removed] writes:

Have just listened to an interview with Harry Bartell on "Walden Hughes Show"
on
the Yesterday USA Network. I must say that it lived up to my exceptions. Any
folks that have not heard Walden's weekend shows are missing out on a real
treat. You can catch Walden every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday evening.

I totally agree with Dan and I also encourage OTR fans to listen in to
Walden's show on yesterday USA.
The show  runs on the average about 5 hours starting at 10:30 pm in the east
which is 7:30 pm Pacific Time on Fri , Sat and
Sun .

Frank Bresee co-hosts on Friday .

Walden plays OTR , has live guests and recorded interviews.
Some of the regularly scheduled OTR programs are :
One Man's Family , I Love a Mystery . Jack Benny , Fred Allen ,  Jack Benny
and more.

I took a note of what is coming up next weekend as far as interviews.

Friday 8-22-03

A.  Frank Bresee interview with Lureen Tuttle

B.  Ken Carpenter segment with Frank Bresee ,
    from a  1972 KFI special

Saturday 8-23-03

A.  Jerry Haendiges live interview

B.  replay of the Gassman,s interview with George Walsh

Sunday 8-24-03

A.  live interview with Jim Harmon

B.  replay of the interview with June Foray and
    Les Tremayne

 I am just glad I found the show .  I have truly enjoyed it .

-Bryan

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:35:20 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Harry Bartell

Hi Everybody,

thank you so much for the kind words Day about the interview with Harry
Bartell.  When you have a good guest like Harry it make the job of the
interviewer really easy.  In the future when their schedule allows them the
Gassman will join me on my week end show for future interview with OTR
personalities.  I am thinking right now Saturday night would be good to
feature the Gassman.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:35:38 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: guess what

Charlie, Ted and Anthony were all very quick to answer my little quiz about
what movie had both "Archie Andrews" and "Henry Aldrich" in it (The
Munster's Revenge). Charlie and Ted added that there was a second movie with
them both: "A Very Missing Person" made for TV, in 1972. This one even had
"Our Miss Brooks" Eve Arden!  Does this ever get shown on TV or otherwise
available?

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:36:17 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Dan Reid/Jim Beasly

We have a local radio personality in Milwaukee by the name of Jack Lee.
Several years ago his wife was my instructor in a weight watchers class. After
I told her of my interest in Olde Tyme Radio she told me that her husband once
played Dan Reid on the Lone Ranger. I looked it up but could find no Jack Lee
listed. Recently I came across a newspaper article about Jack Lee. In it he
mentions that while living in the Detroit area John Todd was his drama teacher
and that he did indeed play the Lone Ranger"s nephew, only he did it under the
name of Jim Beasley. Again, I looked it up and could not find any Jim Beasley
listed as playing Dan Reid. This is an exact quote from the newspaper article,
"Lee"s voice changed too, but not before he got a few shots on ABC as the Lone
Ranger"s nephew, Dan Reid." Does anyone know of a Jim Beasley who played Dan
Reid, the Lone Ranger"s nephew.

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:17:50 -0400
From: "Stephen Bauer" <viajero97@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hello all!

Hi there,

I'm new to the group and I just wanted to say hello. Although I'm 34, I'm a
huge fan of OTR. Especially the soap opera genre. I'm a huge fan of "One
Man's Family" and "The Guiding Light". I'm desperately seeking any surviving
radio episodes of "The Guiding Light". I already have a pretty good
collection but know there's at least one more episode that I haven't been
able to locate. I hope there are more. What a shame that so many great radio
episodes are gone forever! Anyway, if anybody could help me locate more
episodes of "The Guiding Light", I would GREATLY appreciate it!

It's nice to belong to a group that shares my interest in OTR. I have yet to
meet a person in "real life" that shares my interest so it's great that we
can be connected via the internet!

Take care,

Stephen

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:51:47 -0400
From: "Shawn A. Wells" <sawellsotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  'Backstage Wife' and 'Direct From
 Transcription Series 11'

Greetings! For those who maybe interested, we have just released the first
volume of 'Backstage Wife.' There are forty consecutive episodes, all
transferred from the original 16" broadcast transcriptions. Each program has
been digitally restored, and are in full, rich sound. The first volume
consists of 10 compact discs, priced at $ [removed] (non-members) and $ [removed]
(members). As like the 'Young Widder Brown' programs released earlier this
year, if there is enough interest, many volumes will follow. We have nearly
300 of these programs, all on transcriptions. You can view the contents of
the CD's at
[removed](CD-Volume%20O
ne).htm

Also, 'Direct From Transcription Series 11' is finished and ready to go.
Contained on these 10 compact discs are some fairly rare, and un-circulated
broadcasts. Each set is just $ [removed] (non-members) and $ [removed] (members).
You can view the contents of 'Series 11' at
[removed]

Thank You,
Shawn A. Wells
The Old Time Radio Shop
[removed]

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