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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 01 : Issue 225
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: OTR Conventions [StevenL751@[removed] ]
CAVALCADE OF AMERICA ["randy story" <BYGEORGE@[removed]; ]
hopalong, 1 more time ["Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
Re: Shorty the Barber [Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
Hopalong Cassidy [Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
Re: An addendum [Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
gildersleeve one last time [JimInks@[removed] ]
Gildersleve's Wife ["Tom & Sheila Hogben" <hogben@libco]
Hopalong Cassidy ["A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro]
Funniest secondary character ["Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed]]
Funniest Phil Harris ["Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback]
LOC question [dabac@[removed] ]
He Nust Be Shoveling Off .... ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
Batman Mystery Club [Bev Keddy <nstn1173@[removed]; ]
Re: R, Carpenter's Funny Folks [sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
[removed] ["Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];]
Can anyone help? ["Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];]
Zorro [Ga6string@[removed] ]
In Costume [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
Thomas Edison disc ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:09:47 -0400
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: OTR Conventions
In a message dated Mon, 9 Jul 2001 8:15:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
I am new at this convention thing. Are there any > conventions in the
western [removed] for the rest of the
year or for that matter any others anywhere in the
States.
The annual Friends of Old-Time Radio Convention will be held this year
October 25-28 in Newark, NJ. This is the largest and oldest of all of the
OTR conventions.
Steve Lewis
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:09:50 -0400
From: "randy story" <BYGEORGE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: CAVALCADE OF AMERICA
Hi, kids!
I am looking for an episode of CAVALCADE OF AMERICA entitled:"A Marine 200
Years Old" starring William Bendix. And I would also like to read a synopsis
of the show to see if it is the one I havebeen looking for 2 years now on
behalf of a WW2 veteran pal of mine who is no longer able to see. He
remembers seeing this story(as he remembers it) starring Ward Bond as either
a movie or TV(ugh!!) show. I have checked movie databases and have not been
able to find CAVALCADE OF AMERICA or DUPONT THEATRE.
Martin Grams wrote a book about the series, I think, and if he is reading
this, I would ask that he contact me with any relevant information he might
have. Anyone, for that matter, who can help me help my dear, aging freind in
this search should feel free to contact me.
thanks all!
randy
[removed]
add any of the Ronald Colman episodes of THE JACK BENNY PROGRAM to my list
of all time funniest otr shows!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:09:52 -0400
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: hopalong, 1 more time
hi
i have to admit he is my favorite :) the western ch only shows the same
ones over and over, anyway
there was a radio version of hop before wm boyd, but it was really an
audition, it was on forecast #8- 8/11/41 for cbs
and on july 29 the western ch is having a "hopalong cassidy public hero #1"
documentary
ed
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:20:25 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Shorty the Barber
Shorty the Barber was absolutely the funniest character on A&A. I looked
forward to the segment with him and, like the audience I was laughing before
he ever said a word. One of the funniest skits was with Gabby the Lawyer. It
was a lively dialog between the two on politics. I laughed until my whole
body ached. And you know. That brings up a very good point. Just think how
lucky we are today. We have the luxury of listening to it again and again.
Just hit rewind, and in a flash, your there to enjoy it all over again. Back
when we listened to these gems as they happened, we only had our memories to
rely on. Today, we can go back and savor every nuance, every word, and like
the Abbott and Costello skit, "Who's on First," it remains funny no matter
how many times you listen to it. The other good thing about today's
technology, if you did not understand what someone said the first time, you
can go back and listen until you finally get it right. We could not do that
thirty or forty years ago. I have heard the old axiom "They don't make 'em
like they used to" and all I can say is thank God.
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:20:43 -0400
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hopalong Cassidy
Joe Ross writes:
All are certainly =registered= trademarks. But a trademark is lost if it
isn't used, and the registry might not have that information. Anyone know
whether these trademarks have been used lately?
Joe, though I would think you would know better than me, I used the term
"live" as it is used by the Trademark office. My understanding is that
"live" refers to the mark still being under prosecution within the
Trademark Office. That is, if you are researching a mark and try to apply
for one that is "live" an objection to your petition would be filed by the
USPTO. That is, the mark is still active and qualifies as still in use
whether it is or not.
Jim Widner
Dayton, OH
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:20:23 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: An addendum
I have one more thing to say about replaying a segment of an OTR show. On one
of the Gildersleeve shows, Judge Hooker tells Gildy what TR means, but I have
never been able to discern exactly what it is he is saying. If any one else
knows what I am talking about, and knows what the Judge says, please let me
know.
Thanks
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:57:29 -0400
From: JimInks@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: gildersleeve one last time
I just saw the [removed] Fields movie, The Man on the Trapzee, on TCM. A
policeman enters a basement where two drunks are and one of the drunks calls
the cop, a "gildersleeve." the other drunk says, "A cop."
The Gildersleeve character began on Fibber McGee and Molly and as most here
know, evolved into Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve. But he was General
Gildersleeve early on and I'm assuming that could account for why the last
name; given the information everybody has previously supplied about the
origins of the Gildersleeve name.
Think I'll go listen to Gildy now.
-Jim Amash
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:57:28 -0400
From: "Tom & Sheila Hogben" <hogben@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gildersleve's Wife
As I Listen to Fibber McGee & Molly shows in the early years,Gildersleve's
wife is mentioned in several [removed] In The Great Gildersleve Show he is a
bachelor. Anyone know the story behind the switch?
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:36:53 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hopalong Cassidy
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:36:31 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
Now bear in mind that I am not an attorney, but I'm pretty sure it's legal to
reprint those early stories and novels as long as they remain in their
original form.
If the name Hopalong Cassidy is a valid trademark, I think that you could
reprint the stories, but you couldn't use the name on the cover or in
promotion. I'm not an intellectual property lawyer, so there may be other
restrictions that I don't know about.
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 01:46:48 -0400
From: "Jimidene Murphey" <jimimark@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Funniest secondary character
Richard Carpenter writes:
As a spinoff to the "funniest episode" discussion, does anyone have a
funniest secondary character?
Is there anybody out there who could possibly forget Mr. Whipple and Sweetie
Face, his "big ole wife" of Fibber and Molly? Is there anybody out there
who could not describe to you in detail what Mr. Whipple looked like, even
though you had never seen him? Or Sweetie Face, whose voice you never
heard? Is there anybody out there who doesn't have some sort of Sweetie
Face in his/her life, if not for a spouse, then a friend, neighbor, big
sister, big brother, or brother-in-law? We all had sympathy (yet admiration
for endurance) for Mr. Whipple. After his scene was over, who of us hasn't
muttered or thought, "That poor [removed]" Yet, somehow he never let Sweetie
Face get him down, and he usually had the last laugh.
Jimidene Murphey
jimimark@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:31:07 -0400
From: "Philip Railsback" <philiprailsback@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Funniest Phil Harris
Hi folks. What is your funniest OTR episode? I believe one of the >funniest
shows I listen to is Phil Harris and Alice Faye. When you put >Phil,
Frankie and Julius together, it's pandemonium.
Couldn't agree more. The Phil Harris show doesn't always work, but it
usually does, and is more often than not just great. My favorite episodes
are "Cadillac in the Swimming Pool", "Alice's New Car", "The Circus",
"Publicity Stunt" (I think that's the name of it. Remley has Phil jump off
the Brooklyn bridge for publicity), and the whole sequence of when Remly
gets fired. Matter of fact, if I had to choose, I'd say those are my
favorites, when Remley gets fired.
Other greats one are "Market Fight", when Phil gets sued and Julius
testifies "for" him. And there's one that's circulating on the internet
called "Health Food", though that's obviously the wrong title. It's very
funny but has nothing to do with health food or any other kind of food. The
actual plot is that Remley is frantic because his rich aunt is visiting town
and she is under the impression that not only is he married to Alice Faye
but that he is the owner of Rexal drugstores -- all 400,000 of them (10,000
wasn't enough for Frankie so he told her 400,000).
- Philip
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:31:04 -0400
From: dabac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: LOC question
Can anyone tell me if all the otr holdings in the library of congress
are copyrighted materials, or if some was what would properly be termed
as public domain? Dan
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:31:02 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: He Nust Be Shoveling Off ....
Speaking of "funniest episodes," Richard Carpenter asks,
does anyone have a funniest secondary character?
Not counting Mike Clancy of Mr. Keen, it's hard to draw a line on just
what makes a character secondary. However, one of my favorites was Digby
O'Dell, The Friendly Undertaker, on The Life of Riley. "You'rfe looking
.... very natural."
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:30:53 -0400
From: Bev Keddy <nstn1173@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Batman Mystery Club
Hi, everyone. I have an .mp3 file of a show called the Batman Mystery
Club. It was produce in 1950. It's probably the same show that you might
have on your hard drive; it's the one I downloaded off a newsgroup.
On a comics mailing list I'm on, someone wrote that there was only a pilot
episode produced. This is curious, since, having heard the show, it's a
continued story. Doesn't make sense to me.
So, my question for you is: was the Batman Mystery Club on the air for any
length of time? How can one obtain more episodes of the show if it
was? Can someone provide me (or the whole list) with information on the
program?
Thanks, everyone. I am behind reading these digests but will catch up
asap. I really enjoy this list.
Bev
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:23:53 -0400
From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: R, Carpenter's Funny Folks
I'd like to harken back to The Eddie Cantor Show of which I presume
there are no recordings, I was sound effects for a short time set up
stage left, where Bert Gordon made his entrance. On my script it would
say: "Erlenborn shield Mad Russian". Bert would have his ear tips tucked
inside his ears and walk to centerstage with yours truly shielding at
his left elbow. I would step aside when he reached the mike, his ears
would pop out and in heavy dialect he'd exclaim, "How do you dooo!"
How I miss the extremely funny ethnic comedians. Also on Cantor was
Harry Einstein. Parkyakarkas!
Later I worked with a gentleman named Artie Auerbach on The Al Pearce
Show
His Kitzel character was charming but objectionable to the sponsor. Al
was asked to eliminate this delightful dialectician from the [removed] or
else. Al chose the "or else" and picked up a new sponsor. Audiences
continued to hear Kitzel's trademark [removed]"Hmmmn yeah, could be!"
So here I sit, singing my sad incantation,
"Where did all the dialects go?" ..Swedes. Shanty Irish, Darkies, (Is
that designation acceptable?)... and even lispers like the loveable Joe
Penner have been booted out!
Years ago I was charmed by Charlie Lung, "Man of a thousand voices" ,
Today he would be lucky to go on the air with
no more than a dozen dialects.
"Time Marches On, Trodding on our heritage! The above requiem is not
copywrited. Signed: Midterm
Octogenarian.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:23:56 -0400
From: "Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: [removed]
Hi all! I've been catching up on the digests, and have comments regarding
many of the [removed] Please bear with me ;)
First, with the Archie Andrews radio [removed] Personally, when comparing it
with The Aldrich Family, I prefer the Aldriches. Of course, I've only heard
one Archie Andrews show, so I guess I can't form an opinion. I found that
the voices of Archie and Jughead were very similar and I had a hard time
distinguishing who was talking (!). (The episode I heard, btw, is the one
where the Andrews get a Television set). I also had a hard time actually
listening to the show because I found the voices to be so exaggerated they
were verging on annoying. I am only 16 now, but I remember reading the
Archie [removed] (I have a box full of about 100 of them collected over the
years). Maybe I should listen to more of the shows to get a better-rounded
opinion. oh! and by the way, I remember watching recently a TV cartoon,
"ARCHIE'S MYSTERIES" or something to that affect. It was a new show (in the
90s) where the gang in Riverdale would confront ridiculously unreal
"mysteries". It was something of a Scooby Doo, I would say.
Secondly, about the Funniest Radio program:
I class the Funnies Radio program as a show that can make me laugh out loud.
Being in the new generation of kids, it is very difficult for an old radio
show to do it for me (although I do still enjoy them). Anyhow, a few
programs come to mind.
Burns & Allen: the episode where Jack Benny is guest star called, I believe,
"Cheapskate".
also, the episode called "H&R Blockhead" gave me a good rouse.
Bob & Ray do a great job making me laugh out loud. My father enjoys these
shows a lot too. I wish I had more (!)
Finally, I think that the best written comedy show in OTR was the Fibber
McGee & Molly show (and coming from a 16 year old, I think that means a lot).
The running gags, the characters, everything was just perfect, and hilarious.
I especially like the parts when Fibber goes on those rants where he rattles
off some HUGE tongue twister until he is exasperated and takes a big sigh.
Great [removed]
happy listening,
jeff
[removed]
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:05:37 -0400
From: "Jeff Geddes" <jeffg@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Can anyone help?
Hi again,
I received this e-mail from someone looking for information on a CLAIRE
WALLACE who apparently had some OTR [removed] I really have no idea so I
will address the question to you guys;
You might be wise to reply to me instead of the inquirer [removed] She
might get scared ;)
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Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 14:20:09 -0600
From: Barb Campbell <bcampbell@[removed];
Subject: Claire Wallace radio question - TV Documentary
To: jeffg@[removed]
Hello:
Cooper Rock Pictures Inc. is producing a History Television documentary
about Joan Bamford Fletcher. She's said to be the only woman to command
70 Japanese soldiers and used them to move to safety 2000 Dutch from
jungle internment camps in Sumatra. This was in the fall after the
surrender of the Japanese - though by this time the Indonesians were
hostile.
I have a telegram from Claire Wallace that asks for an interview with
Joan. Do you have any idea of any of the Claire Wallace programs were
preserved? Is there someone you'd suggest I contact?
Thank you for any assistance you may offer.
Barb Campbell
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Thanks guys,
jeff
[removed]
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:05:35 -0400
From: Ga6string@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Zorro
Anthony Tollin mentioned Zorro in his last post. I'm building a database of
my collection, and I have two 15-minute episodes of "The Adventures of Zorro"
that I'm trying to find the dates for. The episodes are from a Radio
Yesteryear tape (#2293), titled "Imprisoned" and "King's Justice," and are
listed only as 1957. Anyone have any more specific details to offer?
I'm also trying to nail down dates for the NBC Short Story episodes "Dr.
Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" and "Frankenstein," put out many moons ago on Golden Age
Radio (Metacom) BB405.
While I'm here, thanks to everyone who responded to my question about the OTR
novel set, inc. "The Grapes of Wrath." Apparently, it's from NBC University
Theater, 1/9/49.
Sincerely,
Bryan Powell
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:55:18 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: In Costume
Hal (Harland) Stone writes Gerry Halpern:
...And as far as the "Characters" being in "Full Costumes",
you gotta be kidding me. Do you really think I'd be seen
in public wearing that dumb "Beanie"?
Hal,
Probably not, but as was the case for many of OTR's regular
show's cast members, the performers of a show's familiar
characters were used to produce publicity photographs for various
advertising and promotional uses, and often costumes WERE used to
set the scene. Lum and Abner, Amos and Andy [removed] wore garb to
suggest their radio roles for publicity shots. Were you and Bob
ever photographed together as Archie and Jughead in all the
character's high school campus splendor, Archie in his athletic
sweater, and Jughead in beanie, and suspenders? (Or did Jughead
wear suspenders?)
If so do you have any of those shots still in your archives?
Or are they also slated for your book so we'll just have to wait?
CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
Encino, California.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:29:43 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Thomas Edison disc
My father recently acquired one of the old 1900's Edison Phonographs, one of
those small black tubes about a few inches long, and engraved all around the
black tube. It's thicker than I always thought (seen them in documentaries
but never up-close). For those who might be interested: It was made at the
Edison Laboratory in Orange, NJ. The phonograph itself was registered in
the US Patent Office on August 9, 1904 by the National Phonograph Company.
Apparently by what I read on the side of the cardboard can the phonograph
comes in, at least 11 other patents were made on this product, and all dates
are registered and listed. Also has the clause "This record is sold by the
National Phonograph Company, upon the condition that it shall not be sold to
any unauthorized dealer or used for duplication, and that it shall not be
sold, or offered for sale, by the original or any subsequent purchaser
(except by an authorized jobber to an authorized retail dealer) for less
than thirty five cents apiece. Upon any breach of said condition, the
license to use and vend this record, implied from such sale, immediately
terminates."
The label on the cardboard tube lists: EDISON GOLD MOULDED RECORDS, "ECHO
ALL OVER THE WORLD"
The song on the tube is apparently a duet called "Oh, Oh, Miss Lucy Ella"
and there is a number after the title of the song, 9676.
A repro of Thomas Edison's signature is all over the can, and one on the
phonograph itself. Anyone know about the number that is listed after the
title, on the phonograph? My father wants to learn more about the disc.
Thanks!
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