Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #336
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 10/19/2004 7:54 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 336
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  10-19 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Cool Jack Benny Comic Book review!    [ "Jim Erskine" <homeway@[removed]; ]
  Broadcast Schedule Update             [ Thomas Bray <orderinfo@piecesoftime ]
  Broadcast Update                      [ Thom Bray <tb@[removed]; ]
  Local references on OTR broadcasts    [ Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed]; ]
  Black OTR Actors & New World A Comin  [ Roger Lorette <roger@[removed]; ]
  Duffy's First Reader                  [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
  Black Actors on OTR                   [ "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@ya ]
  Art Linkletter                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Clear Channel Stations                [ "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed]; ]
  Still in the ether                    [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  seeking magazines                     [ "Frank Absher" <fabsher@[removed]; ]
  Re:Dandridge                          [ Kcpymurphy@[removed] ]
  Re: Barry Hill: Service of Remembran  [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
  "battery, AC, or DC"                  [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
  More on network affiliations          [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Clear Channel frequencies in Chicago  [ James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; ]
  Bob Dylan's radio memories            [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:55:44 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-19 births/deaths

You will notice a Bob Guilbert on the death list. He was a guest speaker for
the Milwaukee Area Radio Enthisiasts twice.

October 19th births

10-19-1889 - Fannie Hurst - Hamilton, OH - d. 2-23-1968
writer: "United China Relief"; "Fanny Hurst Reviews"; "Big Joe"; "United
Nations Today"
10-19-1903 - Robert Hardy Andrews - Effingham, KS - d. 11-11-1976
writer: "Skippy"; "Jack Armstrong"; "Just Plain Bill"
10-19-1910 - John C. Mills - Picqua, OH - d. 1-24-1936
singer: (The Mills Brothers) "Mills Brothers Quartette"; "Bing Crosby Show"
10-19-1911 - George Cates - NYC - d. 5-12-2002
orchestra leader: "Full Speed Ahead"; "Guest Star"; "Stand By for Music"
10-19-1918 - Bob Sweeney - San Francisco, CA - d. 6-7-1992
actor: "Sweeney and March"; "Sara's Private Caper"
10-19-1921 - George Nader - Pasadena, CA - d. 2-4-2002
actor: "Family Theatre"
10-19-1930 - Wally Flaherty - The Bronx, NY - d. 9-23-1998
host: "Open Line"
10-19-1932 - Robert Reed - Highland Park, IL - d. 5-12-1992
actor: "Hollywood Radio Theatre"

October 19th deaths

04-16-1914 - John Hodiak - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 10-19-1955
actor: L'il Abner "L'il Abner"; Butch Cavendish "Lone Ranger"
05-01-1919 - John Meredyth Lucas - d. 10-19-2002
film director, producer: "Bud's Bandwagon"
07-13-1902 - Phillips H. Lord - Hartford, CT - d. 10-19-1975
actor: Seth Parker "Seth Parker"; Mitchell Frazier "Story of Mary Marlin"
08-27-1916 - Martha Raye - Butte, MT - d. 10-19-1994
comedienne: "Tuesday Night Party"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Screen Guild
Theatre"
12-22-1911 - Bob Guilbert - WI - d. 10-19-1990
actor: Don Winslow "Don Winslow of the Navy"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:56:14 -0400
From: "Jim Erskine" <homeway@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cool Jack Benny Comic Book review!

Hi folks,

I thought you might enjoy this great
glimpse of a comic-I-wish-I-had-but-it-doesn'[removed]

Dell's Jack Benny Comics #1

[removed]

If you'd like to see more of these, be sure to
let the writer know!

Enjoy!

Jim Erskine aka kylistener

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:56:26 -0400
From: Thomas Bray <orderinfo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Broadcast Schedule Update

Friends:

I'm working out the kinks at LIVE365.  Tomorrow, Tuesday the 18th, I'm
broadcasting a block of Harry Lime, 3+ hours, beginning at 9AM PDT,
[removed]

Tune in;  I'm streaming at 16/11, so those with dial ups should do
fine.  I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions off list.

Kind Regards

Thom Bray
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:31:13 -0400
From: Thom Bray <tb@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Broadcast Update

Friends:

I'm working out the kinks at LIVE365.  Tomorrow, Tuesday the 18th, I'm
broadcasting a block of Harry Lime, 3+ hours, beginning at 9AM PDT,
[removed]

Tune in;  I'm streaming at 16/11, so those with dial ups should do
fine.  I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions off list.

Kind Regards

Thom Bray
[removed]

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:41:33 -0400
From: Philip Chavin <pchavin@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Local references on OTR broadcasts

   I believe there've been discussions on this Digest
re local references that were made on national OTR
broadcasts (and whether many listeners understood them
 back then, whether they're understood by current
listeners to recordings of such broadcasts, etc).  And
there's been discussion about the radio pages of daily
newspapers from the OTR period.

   So: Following is an excerpt from Pat Buttram's
guest column on the radio page of the Chicago (Daily)
Times of 13 July 1945.  Buttram, as many of you know,
was a comedian heard on the National Barn Dance (from
Chicago) and Gene Autry's show.

"Th' first thing a radio comedian does is git a big
audience here in the Middle West. Then he goes to
Hollywood an' starts pullin' jokes about the wolf
packs at Hollywood an' Vine street ... 'an about
Pomona. Ya ain't a real first class successful
Hollywood comedian til you've pulled a joke about
Pomona. Now there's millions of people in this country
of ourn an' I'll bet they ain't but a few of 'em that
know or care anything about Pomona.  But when them
fellers mention Pomona it gits a laugh from th' studio
audience an' so that's supposed to make it funny to us
folks back here in the Middle West."

   -- Phil C.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:45:45 -0400
From: Roger Lorette <roger@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Black OTR Actors & New World A Coming

Just to furthur Howard Blues note about the series "New World A
Coming"...this  series also stared Canada Lee.  I've seen Lee's
name  has  come  up  a  number of times here in the digest.  If
you'd like to sample the series there are 48 episodes online at
my archive website [removed]

Roger Lorette

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:47:19 -0400
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Duffy's First Reader
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Doug Leary asks,

The 10/19/43 program of Duffy's Tavern advertises a free book called
Duffy's First Reader, supposedly written by Archie the bartender. <snip>
Do copies of this booklet still exist?

I checked using http://www,[removed] and found about 20 listings,
starting at $[removed]

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:15:56 -0400
From: "jazmaan@[removed]" <dmf273@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Black Actors on OTR

Thanks for all the info on black OTR actors.  I was aware of some of the dramatic series like "New
World a Comin" and "Destination Freedom".  And then of course there's "Amos 'n Andy" with its
large supporting cast of black actors and actresses. 

What intrigues me, though, is the phenomenon of the white star with the black actor in comedic
support.   Jack Benny with Rochester, and Archie the Bartender with Eddie the Waiter being the two
best examples.  A quick perusal of the David Goldin's Radiogoldindex shows that Butterfly Mcqueen
was a regular on the Danny Kaye show (and also on the Jack Benny Show).   And I just listened to a
Baby Snooks episode where Snooks had a black friend named Phoebe (but I'm not sure who played
Phoebe.  I think it might even have been Fannie Brice playing both parts!)

I was just wondering if there were any other predominantly white comedies that featured a black
actor, but I guess not.

I will try and find the Suspense episodes featuring Roy Glenn though.  Thanks for the info!

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:16:09 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Art Linkletter

Does anybody have the same thrill, maybe not thrill, but satisfaction that I
do that Medicare hauled out Olde Tyme Radio star Art Linkletter do their
commercials? Art may be 92 years young (born 7-17-1912), but he is still
plugging away.  I just think it is great.
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:16:17 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Clear Channel Stations

Not to forget -- 640 on your dial -- KFI Los Angeles  (NBC)

Lois Culver
ex-KFI

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:29:47 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Still in the ether
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Hi Gang!

My new pal here on the Digest, Stuart Lubin, asked me off-list the meaning of
my perennial sign-off
"yours in the ether," wondering why I wanted to asssociate myself with an
anaesthetic gas. Well, if my
postings put anybody to sleep, nobody has been brusque enough to tell
[removed]

I went on to assure Stuart that the term "ether" was used by broadcasting
trade publications as a synonym
for "radio" & "radio transmissions" in the early days of the medium. McFarland
even has a book available
about those early days titled "Manipulating the Ether."

According to the venerable "Random House Dictionary of the English Language,"
which we use extensively
here at Talking Books, the standard entry for "ether" has five basic
definitions. Definitions 1 and 2 deal
with Chemistry; definition 5, with Physics. However, definitions 3 and 4 are
right up the OTR hobbyist's
alley:

"3. the upper reaches of space; the clear sky; the heavens. 4. the medium
supposed by the ancients to
fill the upper regions of space."

Since radio-waves abound in the Earth's  lofty ionosphere, I can see where the
term came from.  Guess
what? For definitions 3-5, the alternate spelling "aether" is also allowed. I
wish I hadn't discovered that.
Enough people accuse me of being "affective"  with all the British spellings I
use.

[removed]'s call the whole thing off!

Yours forever in the aether,

Ionospheric Derek

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:59:03 -0400
From: "Frank Absher" <fabsher@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  seeking magazines
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I'm looking for select copies of a magazine that was similar to a regional
version of TV Guide, but for radio. I know it was published in 1932 and 1933
and it went under two different titles: Radio and Entertainment and RAE, and
it focused on the St. Louis market.
Anybody have any copies stashed away?

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:29:09 -0400
From: Kcpymurphy@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:Dandridge
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Were Vivian, Ruby and Dorothy Dandridge sisters?

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:34:43 -0400
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Barry Hill: Service of Remembrance

Today I had the privilege of attending the funeral
service for our dear friend Barry Hill, and will try
to share some of my observations for those of you who
could not attend.

The rain poured down in droves, the air was cold and
the sky dark, as family and friends came together to
share warm memories of their beloved Barry.

Knowing Barry as I did only through my interactions
with him at his booth at the Cincinnati Convention, I
had no idea the impact this man has had on others --
until I read in the OTR Digest so many wonderful and
glowing accounts of their relationship with Barry.
Today was no exception.  Of those who came today for
Barry, at least half of them stood up to share how
Barry has touched their lives for good over the years.

>From our Old Time Radio community Tom Monroe, whom
I've seen numerous times at the Cincinnati Convention,
was also present.  Tom spoke of his 16 year friendship
with Barry and Marilyn, and how he had come to feel
that Barry was more like a brother than a friend.

Many who were there today were recording artists and
musicians with whom Barry had worked in recording and
CD production.  Several told how Barry helped them get
started in the business.  Everyone told of Barry's
integrity, and how he would give himself completely to
help them in their business. Yet, as one person said,
he "never asserted himself, but would take your ideas
and make them soar."

It wasn't just Barry the businessman that was extolled
today, it was also Barry the person.  They spoke of
his warmth and his humor, the jokes he loved to tell.
They were impressed by his accent.  One friend said
she was always learning new words from Barry, like
when you had to look for the "torch" rather than "the
flashlight". He was ready to drop everything at a
moment's notice and help. "He uplifted you and made
you feel better."

One woman said, "It was hard for me to come in the
door here (the funeral home) because I wanted to take
off my shoes.  The first time I met Barry he said to
me, 'Would you please take off your shoes?' Barry was
real, not fake. He loved the unloved, and he cared
about the castaway, whether it was some animal, or you
on that particular day."

I believe it was Barry's future son-in-law Steve who
said, "With Barry being from England, Mother England
sent some of her weather to us as a tribute today."
Steve was also one among many who lauded Barry's
patriotism, saying, "Even though he was born in
England, he was the most proud American I've ever
known."  Another said she had "learned more from Barry
about America than anyone else."  She also had this to
say about our friend: "If I could sum up Barry, I
would say just two things: First, he certainly fits my
criteria for the most unforgettable character. And
second, he fine-tuned a lot about us."

One family of musicians sang a beautiful rendition of
"Nearer, My God, to Thee" after which, Rev. Stan Wells
shared his personal remembrances.

Rev. Stan Wells shared his remembrances. Reading from
Isaiah 40:31, he told the story of the baby eagle
which had been raised by rabbits. The eagle thought he
was a rabbit, until one day another eagle saw him
playing among the rabbits, and confronted him, "What
do you think you are?" "I'm a rabbit," the young eagle
replied. "No, you're not, you're an eagle," the older
eagle answered.  And taking the young eagle to a high
mountain, the young eagle leaped off and began to soar
like an eagle. And that day the young eagle finally
realized who he really was.  Rev Wells concluded:
"Barry has discovered who he really is.  He knew who
he was as a man. He knew who he was as a father. He
knew who he was as a businessman.  But in these latter
days, Barry has come to the place where he knows who
he is spiritually by the breath of Gods' Spirit within
him.  He is alive eternally, and we will see Barry
again!"

After Rev. Wells' remarks, David Wells, on flugelhorn,
played one of Barry's favorite songs: "The Battle Hymn
of the Republic" and the service was concluded.

Today there were tears shed. But there was also
laughter in our hearts, for that was the way Barry
would have wanted it.

Barry was laid to rest in the family's private
cemetery.

When the service was over, I had the privilege to meet
Marilyn and express my condolences. She seems to be a
wonderful and gracious person, both her and her
family, and I'm sure she appreciates all the
expressions of sympathy from the OTR community.

The link is for the obituary notice for Barry:
[removed]

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:34:52 -0400
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "battery, AC, or DC"

Hello, I just heard the announcer of the Philco Radio hour say this phrase,
and I wonder why? There was only AC or DC as far as I knew: battery or wall
current. What was he talking about? It couldn't have been a slip of the
tongue, because he said you could have the three-way model.
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:35:15 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  More on network affiliations

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:23:59 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];

Before WFAN was WNBC and before that it was WRCA (660
am);

Actually, it was originally WEAF, then became WNBC in 1946.  Then around 1954 or so, it 
became WRCA, and went back to being WNBC in the early 1960s.  It became WFAN in the 
early 1990s.
 
WABC 770 was previously called WJZ (transferred to a
station in Baltimore) 

What happened was that the station was originally owned by Westinghouse.  So when WJZ 
became WABC, Westinghouse was allowed by the FCC to call their Baltimore TV station 
WJZ-TV.

Not sure what the station later known as WCBS (880
was) 

WABC.

1050 (but that was WMGM and then WHN Broadcasting from
the Hotel New Yorker) and then WEVD and now WEPN
(ESPN).

I believe that was originally WHN, before it was WMGM.  It was then allowed to resume the 
old call letters.  The FCC long ago stopped issuing new three-letter calls, but for awhile, they 
were allowing stations which once had a three-letter call, or were somehow connected with a 
station which once had a three-letter call, to reclaim that call.  I believe they don't generally 
allow that now.
 
-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:35:26 -0400 From: James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Clear Channel frequencies in Chicago To add to the discussion, here's some more information I was able to gather on clear channel (Not the corporate Clear Channel) radio stations --- at least the ones I grew up listening to in Chicago: 670 - WSCR (formerly WMAQ) Once an NBC O&O, WMAQ was an all-news station when it was bought by Viacom's Infinity Broadcasting. They switched it to a sports talk station as WSCR ([removed]). No specific network affiliation today, although their schedule does show "CBS Sportsline" on Sunday mornings. 720 - WGN Founded by the Chicago Tribune, and still owned by Tribune Media. WGN ([removed]) was a founding member of Mutual Radio. They dropped out of Mutual decades ago. Today, they air mostly local talk shows and sports, and still have their own news department. One of their few network offerings is ABC's Paul Harvey. They also air the "Lutheran Hour", which has to be one of the oldest religious radio programs around. 780 - WBBM WBBM ([removed]) has been an all-news station for decades, and a CBS O&O for even longer. Now part of Viacom's Infinity Broadcasting, they still carry a lot of Viacom-owned CBS programming. As an all-news station, they of course, have their own local news department. They also air "When Radio Was" at midnight. 890 - WLS When I was growing up, WLS ([removed]) was the big Top 40 Station, that also aired Paul Harvey and "Don McNeil's Breakfast Club". Go figure. Today, they're all-talk, with Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Art Bell, and some local personalities as well. Also, a local news department. Owned by ABC since about 1960. That's what I know about these stations. My question is, are these station still genuine clear channel stations, or have other stations been allowed to share their frequencies at night? Jim Meadows ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:36:16 -0400 From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed]; To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: Bob Dylan's radio memories I'm listening to Bob Dylan's recently published autobiographical book 'Chronicles' which I purchased and downloaded from [removed] I thought you all might enjoy this particular passage. It's my transcription from the audio, one disadvantage to not having a real book at hand. = ================================================== 'You never knew who you would run into there at the 'Kettle of Fish' [Greenwich Village club] One of the guys there had some time back provided sound effects for radio shows. Radio shows had been a big part of my consciousness back in the Midwest, back when it seemed I was living in perpetual youth -- Inner Sanctum, The Lone Ranger, This is Your FBI, Fibber McGee and Molly, The Fat Man, The Shadow, Suspense. Suspense always had a creaking door more horrible-sounding than any door you could imagine. Nerve-wracking, stomach-turning tales week after week I was raised on that stuff. I used to quiver with excitement listening to those shows. They gave me clues to how the world worked; they fueled my daydreams, made my imagination work overtime. Before I had ever gone into any department store I was already an imaginary consumer. I used Lava Soap, shaved with Gillette Blue Blades; I was on Bulova Time, putting Vitalis in my hair, used laxatives and pills for acid indigestion, feenamint and Dr Lyon's tooth powder. I had the Mike Hammer attitude, my own particular brand of justice. I asked the guy who made the sound effects for radio shows how he got the sound of the electric chair and he said it was bacon sizzling. 'What about broken bones?' The guy took out a lifesaver and crushed it between his teeth." --Irene -------------------------------- End of [removed] Digest V2004 Issue #336 ********************************************* Copyright [removed] Communications, York, PA; All Rights Reserved, including republication in any form. If you enjoy this list, please consider financially supporting it: [removed] For Help: [removed]@[removed] To Unsubscribe: [removed]@[removed] To Subscribe: [removed]@[removed] or see [removed] For Help with the Archive Server, send the command ARCHIVE HELP in the SUBJECT of a message to [removed]@[removed] To contact the listmaster, mail to listmaster@[removed] To Send Mail to the list, simply send to [removed]@[removed]