Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #348
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 11/11/2005 1:19 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 348
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  UK Cinnamon Bear Web Site!            [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
  "Who WAS that bearded man?"           [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Lookin' good                          [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Guten Tague                           [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  2005 Allen Rockford Award             [ [removed]@[removed] ]
  Radio Sponsors = = =                  [ RBB <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  Another Site Podcasting the Simon Jo  [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  New Website: The NBC Chimes Museum    [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
  ILAM artwork - which storyline?       [ Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@yahoo ]
  Tom Cheek, Sportscaster               [ RBB <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  Cinnamon Bear                         [ "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
  Re: Cinnamon Bear and Children        [ Christopher Werner <werner1@globalc ]
  11-11 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Important Library of Congress Study   [ "thomas" <evander800@[removed]; ]
  Hutton's Stores?                      [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  Cincinnati Convention is worth the t  [ [removed]@[removed] ]
  N-A-B-I-S-C-O                         [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:54:12 -0500
From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  UK Cinnamon Bear Web Site!
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Dennis brought up preparing yourself to listening to The Cinnamon Bear.  I am
one of those CB fans, who look forward to listening to the sweet little bear.
 I felt the need since I have CB fever to share a web site I found last year
surfing the web for information on The Cinnamon Bear.  The site is
[removed]  It's a pretty nice website with coloring pages
for the
kids, especially if you have small kids and grandchildren, that would be fun
to
create a Cinnamon Bear party for the kids, just after Thanksgiving to get the
26 days of listening fun.  There also is things for the adults such as old
newsletters to read, bear facts, music and songs, a radio log, word search,
read
along and sing along, games, and a storybook to download or print.  I think
the
readers should check it out.  I admit I like this site.  I have printed out a
few of the coloring pages to use on my own created audio cassette album case.
 I used colored copy paper to give a Christmas feel to my album cover.  Feel
free to give your opinion of this web site.

 Trina,

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:54:30 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Who WAS that bearded man?"
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From: seandd@[removed]
Subject:  Mike Leannah gets some nice  press

...and much deserved, it was.

Balancing the sharp edge of Parody, with the warm embrace of Tribute, is no
easy trick; many writers, in FOTR and out of it, can't master that high-wire
act.

Michael's RANGER spoof was up there with the best MAD parodies of the old
days (which, in the original color comic days, often targeted radio: INNER
SANCTUM, RANGER, et al.)

Tip o' the white hat, Mr. L!

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:54:56 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Lookin' good

From: alo alo@[removed]

Here is a very  quickly put together flash slideshow of FOTR 2005, for
anyone  interested:

Dear Amanda-

Thanks - that was fun!

(You  probably know that the un-named guy is Don Buka?)

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:55:36 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Guten Tague

Dear Derek-

From: "Derek Tague"  <derek@[removed];

... this month will mark 19 years of sobriety for  me

Speaking as a guy with several alcoholics in the family, including  a
Grandfather who was a suicide, CONGRATULATIONS on one of the biggest
achievements
ever noted in these pages. Puts things in  [removed]

... "Halls of Ivy" adaptation at FOTR ... I was  offered a chance by
director Gary Yoggy to appear in said episode
as the  pitchman for Schlitz Beer ,,, I didn't think it'd be appropriate for
an "openly  recovering" alcoholic to be appearing
in a beer [removed] Enter  ...  Craig Wichman

You hadn't told me that reason, but it makes me even  more happy to have
stepped in. Thanks for the kind words.

And, tieing  this in with the recent Terbaccy thread: it was fun to gas on in
that  ridiculously written spot - but a little eerie. Knowing the great
damage that  both toxins have done to the Race, it's a little unsettling to
hear,
or see, the  period spots for same.

All gosh-wow happy folks - never drunk, or hacking  - in cutesy-poo sketches.
Heck, on the Tube, even with quaint cartoon  spokesmen!

What a world, then and now.
"One day at a time," indeed.  For all of us!

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:55:41 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  2005 Allen Rockford Award

Congratualtions Mary Wallace!

I also knew Allen Rockford from a distance by correspondence and telephone. In
the late 1970s I was working as a Country DJ (to borrow the term from a Bill
Anderson song) at a FM radio station in Brandenburg Ky that has a good signal
into the Louisville Ky area. I knew of Allen's radio show in New York, which I
could not hear. So for personal reasons (I couldn't recieve his New York show
on
my radio in Kentucky)  I suggested to him that he syndicate the show by sending
me a tape of the broadcast after it aired so I could try to place it with a
local station. It took some convincing Allen, but I sold the show (on my
station) to a local bank (I am not a salesman but it was a labor of love for
me)
and Allen agreed to the syndication. But only after I had a sponsor. He
realized
we both shared a deep love for OTR and in return he went one step further and
started preparing a special tape for the Kentucky station using the same OTR
shows to be used in New York. That way listeners would hear the same programs
on
the scheduled week regardless of whether they were in Louisville Kentucky or
listening on the New York station. If memory serves right he eventually added a
third station on his little "tape network" in Glens Falls NY. When I left the
station for a governemnt job, it was after Allen's death, and they were still
airing the show hosted by his partner Don Richardson.

This year was my first time to attend the FOTR convention, and I was pleasantly
surprised to see an award named after my friend, Allen Rockford. I am glad I
was
able to help him, in a small way, with spreading his love of OTR, through The
Sounds Of Yesterday.

Paul Urbahns
Radcliff, KY

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:55:53 -0500
From: RBB <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Sponsors = = =

Kenneth Clark asks about radio sponsorships. My answer would be
cigarette manufactures (tobacco) sponsored the most OTR programs.  Then
cereal makers for all of the kids shows, followed by automobile
advertising, food and bread companies, finally those Little Liver Pills
and other pharmaceuticals.  How did I do?

=Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:56:00 -0500
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Another Site Podcasting the Simon Jones
 Interview

Another science fiction website, [removed], has posted a podcast of
Steven M. Lewis interviewing Simon Jones at the 30th Annual Friends of Old
Time Radio Convention.

For anyone who missed it on the Hitchhiker's site, it is easier to find on
this one.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:57:20 -0500
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  New Website: The NBC Chimes Museum

I would like to take this opportunity to announce the launch of my new
website, The NBC Chimes Museum, at [removed] .

It's lengthy and detailed (I like to call it a doctoral thesis
disguised as a webpage) and I hope it meets with approval from all my
fellow NBC Chimes geeks.

I was actually going to launch the site next Tuesday, the 79th
anniversary of NBC's inaugural broadcast, but I have everything in
place except for one thing (pictures and a direct recording of a
vintage Rangertone Chimes machine, which will be coming to me in a few
weeks courtesy of their owner, a retired NBC engineer in the Cleveland
area) and I am an impatient cuss, so I'm unleashing it on the world
now.

Michael Shoshani
Chicago

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:15:32 -0500
From: Rutledge Mann <cliff_marsland@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ILAM artwork - which storyline?

Hi all,

I'm thinking of commissioning a painting af an ILAM
scene fro my living room.  Any suggestions on which
storyline or scene?  (I don't wish to do Temple of
Vampires, or Stairway).  I'm leaning towards "The
Terror of Frozen Corpse Lodge", "Murder on February
Island", or "The Case of the Transplanted Castle".

If it turns out well, I'll take a picture of it.

Trav

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:16:00 -0500
From: RBB <oldradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tom Cheek, Sportscaster

Longtime Toronto Blue Jays sportscaster Tom Cheek has died at 66 after
battling brain cancer. He called Blue Jays games from the team's
inception in 1977 up until last year-- 4,306 consecutive games.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:16:33 -0500
From: "Michael Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cinnamon Bear

        Chris Holm asked what age a radio listener should start on the
Cinnamon Bear. I don't think [removed] is too young. There are some scary
parts/voices--just hold the little one tight and have fun.
    My kids started on it when they were very young. A lot of the story went
right over their heads but it's a story that one is supposed to hear year
after year and part of the magic is when you suddenly get something at age
six or eight or ten that you had heard but never before understood.
    I think the show originally aired around suppertime, which I have a hard
time relating to because at our house we always listened to the tapes at
bedtime, in the dark. Great fun. And when an episode ended with the
Wintergreen Witch or the Muddlers or some other threatening creature scaring
the life out of Judy and Jimmy, we'd talk about what might happen tomorrow
night, how our heroes in the story could manage to escape, and how we, in
our nice warm bed, were so safe and cozy and warm.
    It's hard to know what images are taking shape in a 3-year-old's brain
while listening to such a show (Wouldn't it be fun to see?) but I wouldn't
worry about The Cinnamon Bear causing any lasting damage to a little one's
psyche. The main characters meet up with a lot more good fortune than bad as
the story unfolds.
    Have fun!

Mike Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:24:06 -0500
From: Christopher Werner <werner1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Cinnamon Bear and Children

Chris Holm asked what was a good age to introduce the Cinnamon Bear to
[removed]

Well most of the children I've given it to are from 3-7 years old. Because
the programs are relatively short (15 minutes) even the youngest of
children will get something out of it. The key is whether a child is
willing to listen. Naturally the very young don't understand everything
that is said, but that's ok - what is important is to start the Cinnamon
Bear tradition early in their lives. Then every year they will look forward
to repeating it, discovering some new detail each year.

Like most other children's education issues, the age is not as important as
the emotional maturity. If the child has a good sense of curiosity and can
listen for only 15 minutes at a time, the program is great.

Most families have welcomed the suggestion of playing an episode each night
before bed to provide incentive to get to bed on time and as a pleasant
thought to go to sleep by. As the story progresses, the child looks forward
with greater enthusiasm to the next episode.

One family that makes many long journeys before the holidays preferred to
play the recording in the car, one episode after the other. Through several
journeys, the story was enjoyed by all.

I would note that I chose to distribute the program as a set of 12
cassettes. 10 are 30 minutes and two are 60 minute. In this way most of the
time the parent/child needs only to push the play button and go to bed. The
recording will end and the tape deck shut off after the episode is done.
Most distributions on CD require the babysitting of the recording to not
skip ahead.

The best response has been from large families with more than 4 children.
Parents love the gift of something that can be shared by all the children
as time passes by.

Of course, Chris, the giving of Cinnamon Bear 'bears' a great
responsibility - you now need to remind the families every year to find the
recordings and start listening on the right day.

Enjoy!

Chris.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:24:16 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-11 births/deaths

November 11th births

11-11-1872 - Maude Adams - Salt Lake City, Utah - d. 7-17-1953
actress: "Maude Adams"
11-11-1883 - Wilbur C. Tuttle - Missouri - d. 6-6-1969
writer: "Hashkdnife Hartley"
11-11-1885 - George S. Patton - San Gabriel, CA - d. 11-21-1945
maverick general: "These Are Our Men"
11-11-1887 - Roland Young - London, England - d. 6-5-1953
actor: Cosmo Topper "Advs of Topper"; William "Johnny Presents"
11-11-1892 - Al Schacht - New York, NY - d. 7-14-1984
sportscaster: ( The Clown Prince of Baseball) "Al Schacht's Sports Show"
11-11-1898 - Rene Clair - Paris, France - d. 3-15-1981
film director: "This Week Around Paris"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-11-1899 - Harold J. "Pie" Traynor - Framingham, MA - d. 3-16-1972
sportscaster: KQV Pittsburgh
11-11-1899 - Pat O'Brien - Milwaukee, WI - d. 10-15-1983
actor: Dan Carson "Dan Carson"; "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
11-11-1901 - F. Van Wyck Mason - Boston, MA - d. 8-28-1978
writer: "The Man from G-2"
11-11-1904 - Joe Penner - Magybecskereck, Hungary - d. 1-10-1941
comedian: "Joe Penner Program"; "Penners of Park Avenue"
11-11-1906 - Harry Holcomb - Malta, OH - d. 9-15-1987
director, narrator: "Curtain Time; "Dr. [removed], The Mental Banker"; "Moon River"
11-11-1909 - Rad Robinson - Bountiful, UT - d. 9-20-1988
singer: (Member of the King's Men) "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "King's Men"
11-11-1909 - Robert Ryan - Chicago, IL - d. 7-11-1973
actor: "Document A/777"; "Hollywood Star Playhouse"; "Suspense"
11-11-1911 - Patric Knowles - Horsforth, Yorkshire, England - d. 12-23-1995
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-11-1917 - Robert J. Shaw - Wisconsin - d. 3-30-1996
writer: "Mr. District Attorney"; "Advs. of Christopher Wells"
11-11-1918 - Stubby Kaye - New York, NY - d. 12-14-1997
comic, singer, actor: "The Heartbeat of Broadway"
11-11-1920 - Ruth Brooks - Omaha, NE
writer: "The Billie Burke Show"
11-11-1922 - Kurt Vonnegut - Indianapolis, IN
writer: "Dimension X"
11-11-1925 - Jonathan Winters - Dayton, OH
comedian: "Monitor"
11-11-1930 - Hank Garland - Cowpens, SC - d. 12-27-2004
guitarist: "Jim Reeves Show"; "Country Music Time"; "Country Style [removed]"
11-11-1939 - Denise Alexander - New York, NY
actress: Francie Nolan "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn"; Debbie Sharp "Big Guy"

November 11th deaths

01-27-1885 - Jerome Kern - New York, NY - d. 11-11-1945
composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Show Boat"
02-25-1925 - Lisa Kirk - Charleroi, PA - d. 11-11-1990
vocalist: "The Henry Morgan Show"
03-22-1886 - Thomas J. Cowan - Newark, NJ - d. 11-11-1969
announcer: WNEW New York
03-29-1912 - Fred Brady - New York, NY - d. 11-11-1961
actor: Himself "The Fred Brady Show"
04-10-1885 - Sigmund Spaeth - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-11-1965
commentator: "Tune Detective"; "Fun in Print"
04-16-1917 - Jean Holloway - d. 11-11-1989
writer: "Hallmark Playhouse"; "Mayor of the Town"; "Mr. President"
05-10-1894 - Dimitri Tiomkin - St. Petersburg, Russia - d. 11-11-1979
composer, conductor: "Last Man Out"; "1947 March of Dimes Campaign"
07-26-1914 - Erskine Hawkins - Birmingham, AL - d. 11-11-1992
bandleader: "Apollo Concerts"; "Big Band Themes on the Air"
07-31-1912 - Irv Kupcinet - Chicago, IL - d. 11-11-2003
sportscaster: WGN Chicago "Chicago Bears"
08-08- 1900 - Victor Young - Chicago, IL (Raised: Warsaw, Poland) - d.
11-11-1956
conductor, composer: "Shell Chateau"; "Old Gold Don Ameche Show
08-29-1899 - George V. Denny, Jr. - Washington, [removed] - d. 11-11-1959
moderator: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"
09-24-1919 - Dayton Allen - New York, NY - d. 11-11-2004
actor: Phineas T. Bluster/Flubadub "Howdy Doody"; "Words at War"
10-12-1905 - Jane Ace - Kansas City, MO - d. 11-11-1974
comedian: "Easy Aces"; "Jane Ace, Disc Jockey"
10-19-1903 - Robert Hardy Andrews - Effingham, KS - d. 11-11-1976
writer: "Skippy"; "Jack Armstrong"; "Just Plain Bill"
12-25-1907 - Cab Calloway - Rochester, NY - d. 11-11-1994
band leader: "Quizzical"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:27:06 -0500
From: "thomas" <evander800@[removed];
To: "old_time_radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Important Library of Congress Study

     A study by the National Recording Preservation Board of the Library of
Congress has concluded that most historic sound recordings created between
1890 and 1964 are nearly inaccessible to scholars, collectors, and the
general public for non-commercial purposes.
     The two reasons given in the report are the physical barriers created
by changing recording technologies and "copyright law [which] allows only
rights holders to make these recordings accessible in current technologies,
yet the rights holders appear to have few real-world commercial incentives
to [removed]  The law has severely reduced the possibility of
such recordings entering into the public domain, at least until 2067".
     Here's what Librarian of Congress, James Billington, said in response
to the report: "[removed] an important challenge to archives and
record companies to work together. We must assure that our recorded heritage
is as accessible as possible for study and enjoyment".
     Although the study analyzed recordings in seven major genres not
specifically including broadcast transcriptions (there was a catch-all
category of "other sound recordings, such as spoken-word recordings and show
music") this would seem to be a report of some significance to the OTR
community.  It is titled "Survey of Reissues of [removed] Recordings" and should
be available at some point through the Library of Congress web site.
    Tom van der Voort

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:06:17 -0500
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hutton's Stores?

I was listening to the Command Performance V-J Day special last night.
There was some dialogue between Bette Davis and Jimmy Durante where he is
inviting her to come to a party he is throwing. I quote from memory:

Bette:  Will anyone I know be there?

Jimmy: Do you know Betty Hutton?

Bette: Sure, will she be there?

Jimmy:  No, but some girls from her store will be.

(A good sized laugh from audience).

Jimmy: They're all from the ten cent counter.

(Smaller laugh from audience)

Was there a Woolworth like chain of stores named Hutton's?  I've never heard
of such a chain, but that seems to be the only way the joke would make
sense.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:05 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cincinnati Convention is worth the trip

Dan wrote:

The best thing about the Cincinnati Old Time Radio and Nostalgia Convention--and
why it succeeds--is that it's everything the big conventions are not. . There's
not as many panels, workshops, and re-creations as in, say, Newark, but this
gives the conventioneer ample time to socialise with OTR friends. 

They don't have as many big name stars at Cincinnati, because unlike Newark and
Los Angeles, none of them live locally. The two Bob's have guests flown in and
put up at the hotel. And that costs money. The Cincinnati Convention could
probably survive without the stars but unless there is a name guest you can't
expect the publicity or expect to get new people to come. Both of which is
necessary to survive. 

My wife, who has no interest in OTR, will sit in the lobby of the hotel in
Cincinnati and knit, folks that sat at out banquet table in past years will just
stop, say hi and talk about common interests(not just OTR). It's a kinda family
atmosphere. That's what I like about it.

Paul Urbahns

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:05:34 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  N-A-B-I-S-C-O
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Jim Burns wrote:

If Worcester, is "Wooster"--

Why isn't Dorcester--

"Dooster"?

Pretty clever,  Jim.  Reminds me of the time a friend of mine in the tourism
business told me that the "Fig Newton" got its name because it was created in
Newton, Massachusetts. My  response was, "Well, it's a good thing they weren't
designed in Intercourse, Pennylvania!"

I usually don't work blue.

Yours in the ether,

Derek Tague

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