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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2010 : Issue 75
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: OTR Injustice Corrected           [ Jordan Young <jordanyoung50@sbcglob ]
  Re: OTR Injustice Corrected           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  posting by martin grams re radio log  [ "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@[removed] ]
  OTR Injustice Corrected, by Martin G  [ Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@sbcgl ]
  4-23 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Copying radio logs                    [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
  BBC radio play                        [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
  [removed]!                     [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  4-24 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  This week in radio history 25 April   [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:24:28 -0400
From: Jordan Young <jordanyoung50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR Injustice Corrected

Credit where credit is due! Kudos to Martin Grams for bring this
issue to light. It's happening not only within the OTR hobby, of
course, but throughout the arts--especially film--and many other
subject areas.

Many people have taken material from my books on Spike Jones over the
years and regurgitated it as their own, notably quotes obtained
directly from interviews with former Slickers. They never heard of
fair use and have no understanding of copyright.

Then there's the discography issue--every Spike Jones discography out
there derives from the efforts of Ted Hering--but where Jack Mirtle,
Scott Corbett and myself give credit to Ted, many publications and
websites do not.

Because technology makes it easy to steal doesn't mean you should.

Jordan R. Young
"Spike Jones Off the Record"

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:24:32 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: OTR Injustice Corrected

Martin Grams wrote --

I once talked to Tom by
phone and asked if he was aware of this (during our conversation) and he
remarked, "that's why I don't care to get back into the hobby or research
another subject." He's out of the hobby altogether.

I can entirely sympathise with him, and with your entire post. About ten
years ago, I transcribed an entire run of 1930-31 "Amos 'n' Andy" scripts
from the microfilm copies which I own. This was difficult, time-consuming
work, as anyone who has worked with microfilm can attest, but I made the
scripts available online along with an introductory and concluding
article written -- and copyrighted -- by me. Subsequently I took the
material down from the web with an eye toward expanding it into a book,
as a followup to my earlier book on A&A. However, it was brought to my
attention that certain "independent researchers" had helped themselves to
the material from my site, and were distributing both the scripts and the
accompanying articles -- with my name and copyright credits removed.

I can't afford to track down and go after these people legally -- and
there wouldn't be much point, given the fact that the stuff is already
floating around out there and probably always will be. But I have no
intention of ever again sharing material as freely as I once did, and
the entire experience has left me with a very sour taste in my mouth
about the way certain  OTR people conduct themselves.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:24:42 -0400
From: "W. Gary Wetstein" <wgaryw@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  posting by martin grams re radio logs
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i can't add anything to the eloquent and precise comments made by martin
grams.  he's right;  there is an appalling lack of respect displayed towards
the people who deserve so much credit for their incredible work in
documenting the history of OTR.  i just wanted to try to be the first person
to jump in and say, "hear, hear".

your indignation is justifiable, and you expressed it well.

regards,
--wgw

"there's some folks out there who if they don't get it, you can't tell
'em."
--louis armstrong

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:24:47 -0400
From: Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR Injustice Corrected, by Martin Grams, Jr.

Thank you for bringing this unfair practice to our attention, Martin.  I
agree with you wholeheartedly.  In scholarly works, credit should always be
given to the originator of the work.  But these people are not scholars, they
are egotists.

Stuart

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:25:14 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-23 births/deaths

April 23rd births

04-23-1564 - William Shakespeare - Stratford-upon-Avon, England - d.
4-23-1616
playwright, poet: Several of his works adapted for radio
04-23-1879 - Talbot Mundy - London, England - d. 8-5-1940
writer: "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"
04-23-1884 - Edwin C. Hill - Aurora, IN - d. 2-12-1957
news commentator: "Human Side of the News"; "Your News Parade"
04-23-1893 - Frank Borzage - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 6-19-1962
film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
04-23-1895 - Ngaio Marsh - Christchurch, New Zealand - d. 2-18-1982
author: "Final Curtain"
04-23-1898 - Lee Vines - Texas - d. 12-28-1987
announcer: "CBS Radio Workshop"; "Burns and Allen"
04-23-1901 - George Harmon Coxe - Olean, NY - d. 1-30-1984
novelist: "Casey, Crime Photographer" based on his novels
04-23-1910 - Simone Simon - Bethune, Pas-de-Calais, France - d.
2-22-2005
actor: "Inner Sanctum"
04-23-1915 - James F. Fleming - Baraboo, WI - d. 8-10-1996
announcer: "Vic and Sade"; "Get John's Other Wife"
04-23-1918 - Oliver Treyz - Willewemoe, NY - d. 6-14-1998
director of ABC radio
04-23-1919 - Clifford Kendrick - d. 9-17-1996
drums: "Bob Skyles and His Skyrockets"
04-23-1921 - Janet Blair - Altoona, PA - d. 2-19-2007
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre", "Abbott and Costello"
04-23-1921 - Warren Spahn - Buffalo, NY - d. 11-24-2003
hall of fame pitcher: "Tops in Sports"
04-23-1922 - Jack May - Henley-on-Thames, England - d. 9-19-1997
actor: "The Archers"; "Sherlock Holmes"
04-23-1924 - Norman Painting - Leamington Spa, England - d. 10-29-2009
actor: Phil Archer "The Archers"
04-23-1925 - Elena DaVinci - d. 11-10-2006
host: "Magazine of the Air"
04-23-1928 - Shirley Temple - Santa Monica, CA
actor: Judy Graves "Junior Miss"
04-23-1931 - Tom Pettit - d. 12-22-1995
nbc reporter: "Meet the Press"
04-23-1932 - Ed Walker - Forrest, IL
co-host: "The Joy Boys of Radio"

April 23rd deaths

01-08-1908 - William Hartnell - London, England - d. 4-23-1975
actor: The Doctor "Doctor Who"
02-07-1908 - Larry "Buster" Crabbe - Oakland, CA - d. 4-23-1983
actor: "George Jessel Show"; "Hollywood Showcase"
02-12-1898 - Curt Peterson - Albert Lea, MN - d. 4-23-1980
announcer: "Jones and Hare"; "The Pure Oil Band"
02-15-1905 - Harold Arlen - Buffalo, NY - d. 4-23-1986
composer: "Songs By Arlen"; "Kraft Program"; "Good New of 1940"
03-10-1900 - Peter de Rose - NYC - d. 4-23-1953
pianist, singer: "Sweethearts of the Air"
03-19-1907 - Kent Smith - NYC - d. 4-23-1985
actor: "NBC University Theatre of the Air";"Radio Reader's Digest"
04-10-1919 - Bruce Buell - Santa Ana, CA - d. 4-23-1996
annoucer: "California Caravan"; "Mystery is My Hobby"
04-15-1921 - Art Ford - NYC - d. 4-23-2006
emcee, disk jockey: "Monitor"
04-23-1564 - William Shakespeare - Stratford-upon-Avon, England - d.
4-23-1616
playwright, poet: Several of his works adapted for radio
05-07-1903 - Samuel Herbert Herman - Bronxwood, NY - d. 4-23-1995
xylophone player: Staff musician for NBC
05-11-1909 - Ocie Stockard - Crafton, TX - d. 4-23-1988
bango: "The Musical Brownies"
05-19-1894 - Henry Busse - Magdeburg, Germany - d. 4-23-1953
orchestra leader: "Fitch Bandwagon"; "Spotlight Bands"
05-24-1914 - Vernon (Vern) Carstensen - Clinton, IA - d. 4-23-1999
announcer, actor: "Box 13"; "Damon Runyon Theatre"
06-23-1944 - "Jolly Joe" Truszkowski - Warrior Run, PA - d. 4-23-2009
polka bandleader: WICK-AM Wilkes Barre, PA
07-04-1907 - Tommy Carr - Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-23-1997
actor: Jerry Hall "Magic Island"
07-21-1911 - Alice Cornett Asherman - Plant City, FL - d. 4-23-2002
singer: Had own program five times weekly on NBC
07-24-1917 - Robert Farnon - Toronto, Canada - d. 4-23-2005
conductor: "AEFP Farewell Party"; "Songs for America"
07-29-1916 - Albert Lewin - NYC - d. 4-23-1996
writer: "Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy"; "Eddie Cantor Show"
08-14-1879 - Edna Fisher - NB - d. 4-23-1978
actor: "The Al Pearce Show"
09-13-1883 - Lewis E. Lawes - Elmira, NY - d. 4-23-1947
commentator: "Twenty Thousand Years in Sing Sing"
10-12-1915 - Mike Moser - Spokane, WA - d. 4-23-1953
producer, director: "Space Patrol"
10-24-1879 - Benjamin Albert "[removed]" Rolfe - Brasher Falls, NY - d.
4-23-1956
conductor: "Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra"; "Believe It or Not"
11-06-1904 - Selena Royle - NYC - d. 4-23-1983
actor: Hilda Hope "Hilda Hope, [removed]"; Kathy Marsh "Portia Faces Life"
11-18-1891 - Sigmund Anker - Bern, Switzerland - d. 4-23-1958
violinist: KFRC San Francisco, California
12-05-1906 - Otto Preminger - Vienna, Austria - d. 4-23-1986
actor, film producer, director: "Fun In Print"; "Listen to the People"
12-17-1902 - House Jameson - Austin, TX - d. 4-23-1971
actor: Sam Aldrich "Aldrich Family"; Inspector Douglas Renfrew
"Renfrew of the Mounted"

Ron

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:25:34 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Copying radio logs

Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:27:19 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];

This is NOT an issue about copyrights. This is NOT an issue about
trademarks.

Actually, it IS a copyright issue, and if just once someone got sued,
the word might get out that this isn't a safe thing to do.  That's
the only way it's ever going to stop.

--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 92 State Street, Suite 700                   Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02109-2004           	         [removed]

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:25:46 -0400
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  BBC radio play
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On Saturday 8th May, 1430 -1530 UK time, BBC Radio 4 has a play called 'An
English Tragedy' about the trial of John Amery who broadcast on the Nazi
propaganda radio during the Second World War.

Cheers !  Graeme

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:25:58 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  [removed]!

Michael Berger wants to know about a late 1930s radio show chaired by
S. J. Perelman.

Jay Hickerson's "Ultimate History" says this series was on the air
for Mutual from 4/7/39 to 2/12/40. It was a half hour show sponsored
by B. F. Goodrich Rubber. Mutual originally aired it on Friday nights
and then moved it to Mondays, first at 9:30 pm and then, as of
11/6/39, changed it to 8 pm.  The show was sometimes called "Author's
Quiz."

Apparently there is only one audio copy circulating, that of the
first episode (probably the audition.) Perelman is not the host
(Odgen Nash is) nor is Perelman on the four person panel. On this
show the panel consists of Marian Collins, short story writer, Carl
Van Dorn, historian and professor, Frederic Danay (I'm Ellery") and
Manfred B. Lee (I'm Queen.")

The format of the show involved a very short dramatization of the end
of some story. Next, the panel had to construct a storyline which
would explain the ending the radio audience had just heard. In the
surviving program, the story the panel is asked to complete is "The $
2001 Watch."

Many collectors have this copy in their holdings as I do also.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:26:06 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-24 births/deaths

April 24th births

04-24-1871 - Blanche Ring - Boston, MA - d. 1-13-1961
actor/singer: "Fight Camp"; "Jumbo"
04-24-1894 - Norman Sweetser - d. 8-28-1980
director: "Just Plain Bill"; "Stella Dallas"
04-24-1897 - Alfred Brown - d. 1-28-1978
actor: Og "Og, Son of Fire"
04-24-1905 - Robert Penn Warren - Guthrie, KY - d. 9-15-1989
author: (All the King's Men) "NBC University Theatre"
04-24-1906 - William "Lord Haw Haw" Joyce - Brooklyn, NY - d. 1-3-1946
propagnadist for Nazi Germany during World War II: Hung for treason
04-24-1907 - John Frank Anders - Upward, NC - d. 12-18-1983
composer, singer: live radio program in Knoxville, Tennessee
04-24-1910 - Albert Zugsmith - Atlantic City, NJ - d. 10-26-1993
film producer/director: "Bud's Bandwagon"
04-24-1911 - Arval Hogan - Robbinsville, NC - d. 9-12-2003
country, bluegrass: "Briarhoppers"
04-24-1916 - Eldon Shamblin - Weatherford, OK - d. 8-5-1998
guitarist: "Bob Wills and the Texax Playboys"
04-24-1922 - Aaron Bell - Muskogee, OK - d. 7-28-2003
singer: "Steve Lawrence Show"
04-24-1924 - Clement Freud - Berlin, Germany - d. 4-15-2009
panelist: "(Grandson of Sigmund) Just a Minute"
04-24-1926 - Marilyn Erskine - Rochester, NY
actor: Gail Carver "Lora Lawton"; Janey Brown "Young Widder Brown"
04-24-1928 - Brian Clewer - London, England - d. 4-16-2008
host: "Cynic's Choice"
04-24-1928 - Ted McKay - Raised in North Avondale, OH - d. 12-22-2005
talk show host: "Party Line"; Created first talk show on WKRC
Cincinatti in 1955

April 24th deaths

02-03-1924 - Leslie Stevens - Washington, [removed] - d. 4-24-1998
film director: "Stagestruck"
02-12-1923 - Mel Powell - NYC - d. 4-24-1998
pianist, composer: "Jam"; "I Sustain These Wings"; "Grand Roundup"
02-13-1908 - Lennie Hayton - NYC - d. 4-24-1971
conductor: "Your Hit Parade"; "Ipana Troubadors"
03-08-1889 - Rosario Bourdon - Montreal, Canada - d. 4-24-1961
conductor: "Cities Service Concert"; "Great Personalities"
04-26-1920 - Frankie Scott - Georgia - d. 4-24-2004
performer: "Grand Ole Opry"
05-07-1896 - Gale Binkley - d. 4-24-1979
banjoist: (Binkley Brothers Dixie Clodhoppers" WSM Nashville, TN
05-14-1925  Tristram Cary - Oxford, England - d. 4-24-2008
musician: "Dr. Who"
06-04-1921 - Harvey Bullock - Oxford, NC - d. 4-24-2006
writer: "Breakfast with Burrows"
06-17-1913 - Bob Allen - Allendale, OH - d. 4-24-1989
singer: (Hal Kemp Band) "Phil Baker Show"; "Calling America"
06-27-1914 - Noboru Kirishima - Iwaki City, Japan - d. 4-24-1984
enka singer: "This Week's Star"
07-17-1906 - John Carroll - New Orleans, LA - d. 4-24-1979
actor: "Hello Mom"; "Suspense"
08-03-1904 - Clifford Simak - Millville, WI - d. 4-24-1988
writer: "Dimension X"
08-16-1915 - Al Hibbler - Tyro, MS - d. 4-24-2001
jazz singer: "A Date with the Duke"; "Jubilee"
08-21-1890 - Bill Henry - San Francisco, CA - d. 4-24-1970
commentator: Chief CBS Correspondent
10-02-1895 - Bud Abbott - Asbury Park, NJ - d. 4-24-1974
comedian: "Abbott and Costello Show"
10-29-1897 - Hope Emerson - Hawarden, IA - d. 4-24-1960
actor: Henrietta Topper "Advs. of Topper"; Elsie the Cow "Happy Island"
10-30-1912 - Preston Lockwood - Leyton, England - d. 4-24-1996
actor: "Sherlock Holmes"
11-15-1924 - Mike Raven - London, England - d. 4-24-1997
actor: "Raven Around Show"

Ron

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:26:35 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This week in radio history 25 April to 1 May

 From Those Were The Days

4/25

1938   Your Family and Mine, a serial, was first broadcast.

4/27

1921   Weather broadcasts were heard for the first time on radio when
WEW in St. Louis, MO aired weather news.

1931   NBC presented Lum and Abner for the first time.

1932   The Texaco fire chief, Ed Wynn, was heard on Texaco Star Theater
for the first time. Wynn, a popular vaudeville performer, demanded a
live audience to react to his humor if he was to make the switch to
radio. The network consented and Wynn became radio's first true superstar.

1937   The initial broadcast of Lorenzo Jones was heard over NBC.

4/28

1947   Studio One on CBS was first broadcast. The show was full of great
stars, but no sponsors. CBS dropped Studio One after a year on radio.

4/30

1945   "How would you like to be queen for a day!" That opening line,
delivered by host, Jack Bailey, was first heard on Mutual on this day.
The first Queen for a Day was Mrs. Evelyn Lane.

1945   Arthur Godfrey began his CBS morning show. His theme was Seems
Like Old Times. Arthur Godfrey Time ran until this very same day in
1972. Godfrey's show used live talent and not records. His popularity
with listeners was the major reason that several sponsors gave Godfrey
the freedom to ad lib their commercials and, from time to time, joke
about the products as well.

5/1

1931   Singer Kate Smith began her long and illustrious radio career
with CBS on this, her birthday. The 22 year old Smith started out with
no sponsors and a paycheck of just $10 a week ($139 in 2009 dollars) for
the nationally broadcast daily program. However, within 30 days, her
salary increased to a more respectable $1,500 a week ($20,934 in 2009
dollars).  ([removed])

Joe

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