Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #73
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 3/5/2001 11:41 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 73
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Re: OTR at Sam's and Target          [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
 Jones/Hare shows available?          [Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed]]
 Square Inch Land Deeds               [John Olsen <jrolsen@[removed];  ]
 Little people inside radios          ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
 OTR at Sam's Club & Radio Spirits    ["Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterst]
 Subject:  OMF/Yarborough's Death     ["David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed]]
 OTR & future generations             ["Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterst]
 Re: Old Radios                       [Don Taylor <don@[removed];   ]
 Culture --                           ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Re: Culture --                       ["J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];]
 reverse shark                        [steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed]]
 Jumping the Shark (L&A version)      [Lanny Gilbert <LannyG@[removed];  ]
 Re: The Death of Cliff, and Cary and [Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]]
 Really bad Benny show                ["igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed];  ]
 old serials                          [knight555@[removed]           ]
 New OTR anthology                    ["Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];]
 The Archers                          ["michael edwards" <medwards_47@hotm]
 Re: Shark Jumping Tales              [Allan_Ropchan@[removed]          ]

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:30:51 -0500
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR at Sam's and Target

In a message dated 3/3/01 10:11:11 PM, Tom Wesley writes:

<<Does anyone know if Sam's Club has discontinued selling of old-time radio
collections from Radio Spirits?  The last several times I was at our local
Sam's, all OTR had been removed from the audio [removed];>

The Radio Spirit's OTR sets aren't on the shelves at the San Antonio Sam's
Clubs, but I suspect that this is probably a seasonal thing.  I've seen them
disappear for a few months and then reappear in the past.  I suspect that
they'll return when RSI's spring collections are released in a month or so.
(And there are some very nice collections coming out . . . all with
historical booklets by . . . oops, modesty forbids.)

However, my local Sam's Clubs are now selling Ron Lackmann's GAA book, THIS
WAS RADIO (which contains lots of nice photos and two CDs) for $[removed], quite a
discount from the $[removed] list price.

Good news!  I've recently seen a number of Radio Spirit's OTR collections in
the audio-video department of my local Target stores which is a really good
sign for OTR.  They're priced at $[removed], as I recall . . . not quite the
discount offered by Sam's and Costco but still a hefty discount from the
$[removed] list.   There are a lot more Target stores around than Sam's Clubs,
and you don't have to qualify for and pay for membership. --ANTHONY TOLLIN

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:25:06 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jones/Hare shows available?

Folks;

   Does anyone know offhand if any Billy Jones/Ernie Hare shows (under any of
the various titles/sponsors) are hiding in any far-flung corner of the web in
MP3 format? I know some episodes of the shows exist, and it would be really
convenient if any were available on a website somewhere, although pointers to
analog recordings would be appreciated as well.

         Charlie

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:19:19 -0500
From: John Olsen <jrolsen@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Square Inch Land Deeds

Here is a copy of the "Advice" column reprinted from The Oregonian,
Wednesday, July 7, 1993.

==========================================================================


SGT. PRESTON FAN WANTS TO TRACK DOWN HIS LITTLE PIECE OF THE YUKON


Q: Here are the best of my recollections about a Sgt Preston offer that
awarded me a square inch or a square foot of land in the Yukon or
Klondike; I can't say for sure about either.

I think it was offered by Cheerios and I had to send in money and/or box
tops. The year was somewhere around 1956 to 1960.

I received a paper deed, which I've lost.

Could you help me find out if I still own that land?

Irving N. Canfield,	Woodburn





A: Like gossip, time distorts facts. But Canfield's fuzzy recollections
provided enough information for Action to home in on the facts and a
wonderful bit of trivia that involved 21 million Americans.

>From the time "The Challenge of the Yukon" began in 1947, kids all over
the country rushed home from school to listen to the radio program about
a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer who kept law and order in the
territory with the help of his dog Yukon King and horse Rex. The hero
was so popular that in 1953 the program was renamed "Sergeant Preston of
the Yukon."

Despite the popularity of the program, however, television chipped away
at radio audiences in the '50s. At the same time, sales declined of the
sponsoring Quaker Oats Puffed Wheat and Puffed Rice cereals, victims of
innovative new cereals and compelling advertising gimmicks - like toys
in cereal boxes.

Then an advertising executive for Quaker dreamed up the idea of giving
away land in the Yukon. Quaker Oats paid $1,000 for [removed] acres of Yukon
land near Dawson, divided the land into square inches and printed 21
million "deeds" to the land bits. In January 1955, the deeds were
packaged in 21 million boxes of Quaker Puffed Wheat and Puffed Rice,
both to encourage sales and to publicize the show's transition from
radio to television.

A 1980 New York Times article by Andrew H. Malcolm claimed the idea
turned into one of the most successful sales promotions in North
American business history. Consumers snatched up all 21 million boxes
within a couple of weeks. It was so successful that a follow-up
promotion offered 1-ounce "Pokes" of Yukon river sand for 25 cents,
according to an article from the Yukon News.

It would have been next to impossible to register 21 million separate
deeds, so on advice of counsel, Quaker Oats set up an Illinois
corporation - the Klondike Big Inch Land Co. - as the registered owner.
A spokeswoman for Quaker Oats said nobody seems to know the exact
sequence of events, but the company failed to make provision for paying
taxes on the property and subsequently went out of business. The
Canadian government seized the land in 1965 for an outstanding $[removed]
tax bill.

In spite of the deed promotion, the television show was short-lived. The
radio show that sparked children's imaginations for eight years failed
on television after a couple of years perhaps because images couldn't
replace imagery. Sgt. Preston rode into his last 24-hour Yukon day in 1957.

But Quaker Oats, the Yukon Lands Branch and the Yukon Department of
Commerce still get calls and letters from people asking what happened to
their little piece of the Yukon.

Thirty-eight years ago, Irving, you and 20,999,999 other kids pulled a
little bit of magic out of those cereal boxes. That's yours forever, but
you don't own the land.


==========================================================================


That's what Portland's main newspaper had to say about it nearly eight
years ago.

If anyone would like to see a picture of the land deeds, go to:

     [removed]~jrolsen/[removed]


John

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:03:19 -0500
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Little people inside radios

David Phaneuf (OTR #71) is the first person I've
ever come across who remembers searching, as I
did, for those little people inside radios who talked
and played music.  I've been telling that story for
many decades, along with my fruitless search for
the ditch (away out in the pasture of my father's
farm) where the sun went down.

The world is so different when you see it through
the eyes of a 4-yr-old.  I grew up in easter central
Kansas, but could never find the Land of Oz on
any map.  And I remember how puzzled I was
when my father showed me (around 1933) the
inside of our Philco radio, and there were no little
people there.  So I join with David Phaneuf in
asking whether any other OTR fans who, when
very young,  grew up in the golden age of radio
and believed in the existence of the little people.

Harry Machin Jr.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:03:21 -0500
From: "Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterstogo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR at Sam's Club & Radio Spirits

Even if Sam's club doesn't carry OTR anymore, you can buy the Radio Spirits
recordings online -- just go to [removed].  They have an hour's worth
of OTR everyday & sell old shows.

Mary Anne

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:03:26 -0500
From: "David Phaneuf" <dphaneuf@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Subject:  OMF/Yarborough's Death

Concerning One Man's Family and the hush-hush approach to an actor's death,
Elizabeth writes

It was a bit too dishonest, I think, for Morse and Ware not to
have dealt directly with the fact of the actor's death -- and
not to have killed Cliff off, rather than resorting to the
supremely lame expedient of having him suddenly get married and
move to Scotland. It wasn't really fair to either the actor or
the character.

Was it "dishonest"?  Yes, but wasn't it also the "way things were"?  After
all, it has only been since Kubler-Ross's "On Death and Dying" that we have
become much more open and honest about death.  2 or 3 generations ago, even
doctors were reluctant to admit to a patient that the patient was dying,
preferring often as not to let the patient "think" everything would be okay,
even when the patient deep down inside knew otherwise.  Death was the great
taboo.  As a pastor, I still come across those who, unfortunately, would
keep a loved one in the dark that the loved one is dying -- ostensibly out
of a mistaken sense that the "news" would be too difficult for the loved one
to bear, but I suspect more honestly because it is too painful for the
family member him/herself to deal with.  Avoidance, I think, would be the
apt term for this approach.

Even in our more "enlightened?????" TV age, when CHEERS' "Coach", and also
HILL STREET BLUES' "Sarge", and more recently NEWS RADIO's Phil Hartman,
died in real life, I remember simple "In Memory Of" dedicatories tacked on
at the end of the shows, and, in NEWS RADIO's case a touching tribute show
with excerpts from past episodes, but I don't recall the "Coach" or "Sarge"
or "Bill McNeal" characters themselves "dying" or being "killed off."  I may
be wrong, but I don't think my memory fails me at this point.

In the "thousand make-believe worlds" created by the entertainment industry,
whether OTR or MTV (that's "Modern" TV -- not "Music" TV -- say, do you
think we can coin MTV as an appropriate designation like OTR or OSR?),
sometimes there is just no room for reality.

Dave Phaneuf

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:17:22 -0500
From: "Mary Anne Burkhalter" <characterstogo@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR & future generations

Hi, I'm new to the list & already posting my second reply!  I would like to
tell the 'Heretic of OTR' that the future isn't entirely grim.  He wrote:
< My fear for OTR's future is when the Baby Boom generation is gone. >

In an effort to keep my hyperative nephew quiet on a long car ride, we
brought along some "Shadow" & "Suspense" tapes.  To our complete surprise,
he listened intently and started asking questions about the show, etc.  I
made him more tapes, then he asked for shows for Christmas and even was "The
Shadow" for Halloween -- he's 10 years old.  He has also turned some of his
friends on to OTR!  So don't give up.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:50:23 -0500
From: Don Taylor <don@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Old Radios

Fred Berney said:

Once in a while I am reminded about a Twilight Zone shows in which
an old radio started playing the old shows and I keep hoping that
one day when I turn on the radio, I'll suddenly hear the shows that
I grew up with.

Technically a bit off topic, but I wanted to share a recent experience
I had while listening to streaming audio over the internet.

I ran across a site that was streaming entire record albums from
various artists, and I selected classic rock 'n' roll (I graduated
high school in 1966 in the Seattle area). All of a sudden I heard a
familiar voice, that of longtime Seattle disc jockey Pat O'Day. As a
teenager I had listened to his program every afternoon on KJR. But I
had no idea that he had recorded a recreation of one of his shows on
an album titled "Cruisin' 1966". For nearly an hour I sat there
spellbound, in front of my computer, as I listened to the songs, the
patter and even authentic commercials from my graduation year,
performed by the guy I had listened to daily nearly 35 years ago. It
was an incredible experience!

-Don Taylor

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:22 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Culture --

J. Alec West notes,

I agree with most of what everyone else has said regarding culture in
the [removed];<

This is sort of tangential to OTR, but two things: 1) why restrict it to
the [removed]; and 2) it isn't as prevalent as one might believe, listening
to some complaintants.  Sturgeon's Law ([removed], that "anything"
[originally, he applied it to literature] is judged on its 90 percent
worst stuff rather than its 10 percent best stuff) applies here: take any
culture, not just the [removed] one, and one could fault-find it.

Reading books and listening to OTR require 'effort'.  It's far easier
to just park-n-sponge information off a tube than it is to exercise that
effort -- also known as imagination<<

There are schlocky books and were dumb OTR shows, too.  I've learned over
the years that some of this is a matter of taste.  To take a relatively
noncontroversial example, there used to be a show featuring the Hartz
Mountain Canaries, where canaries would "sing along" to music being
played.  During World War II, after our family having survived the attack
on Pearl Harbor, we took to leaving at least one radio on as long as we
were awake and at home: because of that, I heard the Hartz Mountain birds
chirp away.  Other than having a radio on in the background in case of
news bulletins, I doubt we'd have heard more than one show, but
_somebody_ liked the show, else it wouldn't have kept going.  If some of
my fellow citizens like to sit and absorb TV shows, that's not a sign
that our (or any) culture is going to Hell in a handbasket.

I think we live in a culture of sheep who prefer being led-by-the-hand
to our entertainment.  These sheep don't seek out entertainment -- they
wait for someone to hype their interest. <<

Hyping interest isn't a matter of the ultimate consumers being sheep; and
it's gone in for ages.  The carnival barker was around before there was
radio, television, or even electricity, but his spiel and delivery
attracted customers.  And carnival barkers weren't restricted to a single
country.

Bottom line?  OTR would NEVER have died if the sponsors didn't abandon
the medium.  But, the merchants of this world were steering their sheep
away from inexpensive radios to more expensive televisions ... and ad
agencies jumped on the bandwagon, knowing the profit potential from TV
would be greater once the sheep were [removed];<

It wasn't a matter of motivating folk to but TV sets: the pull was there.
 We got our first set when my early-teens sister and I decided to pool
our savings, which, together, could have bought a cheap Sears table-model
set, and our father then decided to get something better.  Merely by
existing, television created its own demand; without it, the medium
couldn't have proliferated.

It's normal to think that, under capitalism, markets follow consumer
[removed];<

As was certainly the case of television.  As an example in another
medium, almost all the major studios of the time fought "talkie" motion
pictures, but the public demanded them.  I remember those days: nobody
had to convince us to buy a TV set.

As I mentioned earlier, the decline of OTR was purely financial, and as a
result of shifting demographics _not_ related to any shepherding; but
rather, following what people wanted.   The fact that there wasn't (and
isn't) an unlimited sea of advertising revenues means that something's
got to suffer in any demographic shift.  Not counting newscasts, I watch
maybe four hours of TV a week; and we have no cable.  But OTR isn't my
only interest in media: I have a significant videotape collection, too.
I don't bring that up here, nor my books, nor anything not related to
OTR.  A lot of folk have nonentertainment hobbies ([removed] model trains,
skydiving, etc.), and these take time out of one's day, too.

Our culture is diverse.  It's worth noting that most "audience share"
figures aren't absolute numbers: they are calculated on the basis of the
audience with their TV sets on and tuned to broadcast/cablecast
programming.

Sometimes it's discouraging to those of us who dig OTR that not everybody
is as enthusiastic about the programs as we are ... but it's a fact of
life.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:26 -0500
From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Culture --

"Stephen A Kallis, Jr." wrote:

As I mentioned earlier, the decline of OTR was purely financial, and as a
result of shifting demographics _not_ related to any shepherding; but
rather, following what people wanted.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the inventor of television envision its use
as an educational medium?  I agree with you that the decline of OTR was purely
financial.  I'll even agree that shifting demographics were involved.  But, I
don't necessarily agree that demographic shifting was a natural process.  I
suspect it was guided.  Brief aside.

In the 1950s, Hayden Island (Oregon) was the home of the Jantzen Beach
Amusement Park.  Today, it's the home of a huge shopping mall.  Not long ago,
walls in the mall depicted the "history" of this transition in words and photos
-- the words claiming that sagging gate revenues led to the failure of the
park.  What the words don't say is that greedy land developers lobbied heavily
to have Hayden Island rezoned -- making it impossible for the amusement park to
obtain building permits to refurbish older buildings or erect new ones.  All
the land developers had to do was sit at wait (like vultures) until the
buildings fell apart -- and it wasn't a long wait.  This was not a situation
where demographic shifting 'demanded' a shopping mall be built.  It was a
belief by developers that land values would skyrocket to _their_ benefit, not
that the public was no longer interested in an amusement park.

Televisions and television broadcasting equipment had to come before programs.
And programs had to come before viewers (except for the rare birds who got a
kick out of watching test-patterns <grin>).  But, _sponsors_ had to come before
programs, too.  And the first TV programs were not all that 'unique'.  They
were basically OTR with pictures -- from when a station came on at 10 AM with
Liberace, to the time it signed off with the National Anthem.  But sponsors
only had so many dollars to go around and wanted the biggest bang for the buck.
It was a leap of faith by 'hardware' manufacturers that made television
possible.  There were some people who thought TV would be a passing fad, after
all.  But once that leap of faith was made, sponsors followed suit.  Otherwise,
those who thought TV as a fad would have been right.  Did the public really
want TV as an entertainment medium -- or was the medium _made_ that way based
on the prior successes of OTR?

Regards,
J. Alec

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:30 -0500
From: steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  reverse shark

I'm not sure of dates, but to me a good example of the

"reverse shark" (I think I'm using that term properly)
occured on Fred Allen's show with the advent of the
classic Allen's Alley with Senator Claghorn et al.
There is (in my opinion) no such thing as a bad Fred
Allen show, and some of the earlier shows were
fabulous, particularly anything involving that famous
Chinese detective, One Long Pan, but the Claghorn
Allen's Alley shows are in a class by themselves.
Steve

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:32 -0500
From: Lanny Gilbert <LannyG@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jumping the Shark (L&A version)

Having enjoyed Elizabeth's scholarly posts on the digest, I'd like
to respectfully disagree on the Lum and Abner shark jump. I agree
that the Mars Expedition storyline was silly, but I think the show
had *lots* of life left in it after that. Several of the
storylines (Grandpap has amnesia, Ellie Connors, etc.) are up
 the to pre-"Mars" standard of Lum and Abner, IMHO.

However, I agree the program jumped the shark. The 30-minute
"Hollywood spectacular" productions that started in 1948 were
funny, in a way, but they completely ruined the illusion of
the small-town store and the oddballs that lived in Pine
Ridge, for me anyway.



"I got 35 cents in cash and a $99,000 rocking chair.
That oughta be worth sump'm', ought'n it?" - Cedric Weehunt

Lanny Gilbert

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:34 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: The Death of Cliff, and Cary and Randy At
 Home.

Chris Chandler quotes and [removed]

Elizabeth [removed]


It was a bit too dishonest, I think, for Morse and Ware not to >have dealt
directly with the fact of the actor's death -- and >not to have killed Cliff
off, rather than resorting to the
supremely lame expedient of having him suddenly get married and >move to
Scotland. It wasn't really fair to either the actor or >the character.

Completely [removed] WHY did this happen?  I've never really seen it
[removed]'s easy to postulate the company was simply so broken up over
the real-life tragedy they couldn't bear to re-enact it for the radio

This is one of those questions someone should have thought to ask Morse
while he was still alive. My own theory is that they might have been
afraid to do the deed, simply because it might have seemed to the
listeners that the character of Cliff had, in fact, gone over the edge
and done away with himself. Given his obvious bouts with chronic
depression -- all the symptoms were clearly displayed -- Cliff could very
easily have been imagined as a suicide, even if they portrayed his death
as the result of a car accident. The suspicion might always have been
there in the mind of the listeners -- and I doubt that's something Morse
would have wanted to address.

In any case, contrast Morse's sloppy handling of Yarborough's death with
the way Jack Webb dealt with it in "Dragnet." The "Big Sorrow" episode
stands as one of the most honest expressions of genuine human grief ever
to be broadcast: Joe Friday mourns the death of his partner, even as Jack
Webb mourns the death of a colleague and friend. The scene where Friday
is told that Ben has died, and he sits there stunned, is an extraordinary
and powerful bit of radio acting.


Amos and Andy visited the home shared by Cary Grant and >Randolph Scott --
to find the two relaxing at poolside and
exchanging teasing wisecracks.

You are making that up!!!!  Aren't you?  hahaha

Indeed not -- it was A&A episode 2397, broadcast on Friday, 8/21/36. Amos
and Andy are looking to raise funds to live on while in Hollywood, and
visit "the beach home of Cary Grant and Randolph Scott at 1018 Ocean
Front, Santa Monica" after being told of a job opening there, and become
involved in a friendly chat after learning that Randy is a fellow
Southerner. Then Cary arrives, and the talk turns in another direction.
Here they are:--

Andy -- Yo' all live down heah by yo'self?

Scott -- Yes, the two of us live down here.

Amos -- Mr. Grant, you sho' got yo'self a sunburn.

Grant -- Well, we spend a lot of time around the pool here and in the
ocean.

Scott -- He's running a race with the fellow next door to see who can get
the best tan this summer.

Grant -- Randy, what do you say we go in the pool?

Amos -- Yo' mind if we see yo' dive in just 'fore we go?

Grant -- No.

Scott -- If you get down in North Carolina, tell them hello for me. (To
Cary) How about you, Cary -- are you ready?

Grant -- Let's go.

SOUND --(sound of dive in pool)

Amos -- Look at 'em under de water swimmin'. Dat's Cary Grant an'
Randolph Scott. Gee, dey is nice, ain't dey?

Andy -- Dey cert'ny do git along togetheh, don't dey?

******

"Not that there's anything wrong with [removed]"

Elizabeth

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:57:37 -0500
From: "igsjr@[removed]" <igsjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Really bad Benny show

Rhiman Rotz wrote:

Has anyone ever heard a really *bad* Benny show?<<

The November 30, 1947 broadcast, where Jack has the dream about being
put on trial for killing a [removed] could not believe how bad that
show [removed] guess it seemed like a good idea at the [removed]

Ivan

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:05:34 -0500
From: knight555@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  old serials

To whomever posted the inquiry about finding old films:  the magazine
"Films of the Golden Age " lists numerous sources.  If you can"t find it on
your newsstands,e-mail me directly and I'll try to send you some of the
addresses, or maybe try their website, [removed]   . Hope that helps.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:46:44 -0500
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  New OTR anthology

Hello all.  I have just completed a pilot test of a program which will
feature two
hours of OTR shows.  Since this is only a pilot, it only has three
programs and runs
about 100 minutes.  For now, you must either stream or download directly,
but I hope
to have a web link to it soon.  The direct url is:
[removed]
Please feel free to send any comments to me at
tony@[removed]
.  Thanks.  Also, feel free to post this file to the newsgroups or other
servers
if you want.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:03:46 -0500
From: "michael edwards" <medwards_47@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Archers

In OTRD V01 #71, Owens Pomeroy wrote:

"I just got finished listening to a gold mine of "our kind" of radio from
the UK on "Radio 4" <[removed]; that are really great.  They are formatted
for the PC. When you find the site, click on Radio, then go to Radio 4 the
station that carries the OTR type format.  Here is what I heard tonight:

THE ARCHERS (AN ADVENTURE SERIAL)"

BBC Radio 4 is great.  However, as someone who has the "luxury" of listening
to The Archers each weekday morning at 9 [removed], (luxury in quotes because
I'm at home recovering from stomach surgery),I feel compelled to point out
that The Archers is a soap opera, not an adventure serial.  In fact, having
recently celebrated its' 50'th anniversary, I believe it's Britain's
longest-running soap opera.  (Still not as long running as our Guiding
Light, which will turn 65 next year.)

Michael Edwards

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:31:49 -0500
From: Allan_Ropchan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Shark Jumping Tales

Another example of Shark jumping.

The "Our Miss Brooks Show " was changed forever that fatefull day when
something
happened to "Mr Boynton".  The full rich resonnant voice of Jeff  Chandler was
suddenly and without warning replaced by an interloper.  In my books, the show
had lost that edge and would never be the same again. I suppose Miss Brooks
scared him off, and he moved and changed his calling.  Perhaps to "Frontier
Town" to practice law ?????

Allan

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