Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #235
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/23/2001 12:51 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 235
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Re: geography by speech pattern      ["Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed]]
 Heroes and Superheroes               ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Did they or didn't they?             [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 A CAC Lady                           [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 Two O'Clock Eastern War Time         [leemunsick@[removed]           ]
 Jack Benny for Governor?             [Ehutchison@[removed]                 ]
 Magic Island missing shows??         [Jack Harris <jack@[removed]]
 Jan Miner, John Dehner & ?           ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
 Mississississippi  River             ["Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter-]
 Mary Jane Higby                      [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 Jennifer Jones - OTR Digest V01 #234 [Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@telu]
 A Possible Why CAC Solution          [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 Scarce favorites?                    [dabac@[removed]                    ]
 Jennifer Jones                       ["Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm]
 walter winchell                      ["Norm Wyers" <nwyers@[removed];    ]
 Storing & listening to MP3 [removed]  ["James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed]]
 Ave Maria Hour                       [Paulurbahn@[removed]                 ]
 OTR had few superheroes, thank God.  [John Mayer <mayer@[removed];        ]
 radio character names - Jack Benny P ["Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];  ]
 OTR community                        [Ryan Ellett <ryanellett@[removed]; ]
 Johnny Dollar                        ["Albert P. Cohen" <apcohen@intercom]
 Fred Allen Remembered                [Kubelski@[removed]                   ]
 Amos and Andy - Self-serve gas       ["Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];  ]
 My Super Hero                        [Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];    ]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:19:15 -0400
From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: geography by speech pattern

Elliott (?) Sanger wrote a book, Rebel in Radio - The WQXR Story, or title
similar. In it he described a program the station aired in the general
period between 1936 and appr. 1955. The book, with the rest, are packed so
I'll do my best to relate what I remember.

The program was along the lines of Tune Detective. The host was a linguist
and by listening to persons say words like "Mary-Merry-Mary", could many
times tell where they from, sometimes even whether they lived east or west
of (again, I think) Central Park.

Mr. Sanger was vice-president and co-founder of the WQXR stations; also
served I believe in one or more positions as well. The book was written
after his retirement, ca. 1965, and chronicled the station's early days
through purchase by the [removed], the 50's and early 60's. It's very
interesting and insightful, to use two very overworked terms.

Don't know if this is what you're looking for but it immediately sounded the
Conelrad tones when I read your post.

 Macandrew

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:17:49 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Heroes and Superheroes

Jer51473 suggests that when talking about OTR superheroes, notes,

1) he/she must have abnormal powers or abilities <snip> they all do
super things  <snip> 2) super has to mean some sort of costume or
disguise that in real life no one would wear as a daily garb.

Now I agree with 1) but not 2).  To take an example of a genuine OTR
superhero, Chandu, the Magician, he wore no special costume, just
ordinary clothes.  (For that matter, outside of the 1940s OTR venue, so
did Ibis the Invincible, though he did wear an East Indian turban, which,
presumably Frank Chandler didn't.)    In one episode, after winning a
rough-and-tumble fight against a couple of baddies, Chandler said, "Just
because a man is a magician doesn't mean he's not a man."

3) jack armstrong, hop harrigan, dick tracy, don winslow, tom mix, roy
and gene, hoppy, etc. are heroes, not super heroes.

Amen!!  There's been an inflation in our language, but let's try to be
honest.  While The Lone Ranger borders on the mythic, he's still human.
As mentioned, the title character in my "special" show, Captain Midnight,
was a hero, but nothing more.  The point of a hero, as opposed to a
superhero, is that no matter how talented, he or she would have to cope
as other humans would.  Nick Carter was a master detective, not a super
detective.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:25 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Did they or didn't they?

The restored old-time movie palace Kentucky Theatre in Lexington shows
midnight cult films.  This weekend is the fairly recent "Chasing Amy"
from 1997.  The Lexington Herald Leader published this capsule review:
"Romantic comedy about people who write comic books for a living and
whose most passionate conversations can center on the sex lives of
Archie and Jughead."

How about it, Hal?  Do you and/or Bob Hastings have any secrets to tell
us?  Hi'ya Archikins!  What's the REAL inside info on Betty and
Veronica. Rosemary Rice have any comments?

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:21:47 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  A CAC Lady

conradab@[removed] says:

Another lady "Calling All Cars" player.

[removed]
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:18:39 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Two O'Clock Eastern War Time

I'd like to join the off-mike comments about John Dunning's book.  It's
fun, there's some great stuff in it about radio, and well worth a
read.  Warning:  it's long, and if you're like me, you won't want to try to
read it all in one very long sitting!

I had two problems with the book, both minor:

The cover artwork clearly shows (and written references inside describe)
one very large stick.
Yet at one point Mr. Dunning discusses the station's directional pattern
beaming up the New Jersey coast into New York City.  How can this be?

Secondly, on the same cover artwork is seen what to me looks clearly like a
foreign automobile, perhaps German, which might be a strange juxtaposition
with the WWII story line.  [removed] didn't want to give it away!  This does
not match the story line.  Perhaps both problems stem from the artist who
made the cover painting.

Perhaps Mr. Dunning is reading this?  I'd love his comments.  And thanks
for a great yarn!


[ADMINISTRIVIA: I don't believe Mr. Dunning owns a computer, let alone
spends time on-line. Folks with contrary information, please give!  --cfs3]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:46 -0400
From: Ehutchison@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny for Governor?

A. J. Ross asked about the possible meaning of a reference on the Jack Benny
Show in which Jack gets a laugh by saying someone wanted him to run for
Governor of Georgia.

I can't be sure, but I believe there was once an especially interesting
gubernatorial election in Georgia in which it became public knowledge that
one of the candidates was a former mental patient.  At that time the stigma
attaching to mental illness was very great and this news was expected to mean
a quick end to anyone's candidacy.

It also happens that in that day, a lunacy hearing was required for
commitment and release was obtained by being examined by a board that would
certify that the individual was now "sane."  In a clever tactic, the
candidate with the history of institutionalization began running
advertisements declaring--quite truthfully--that he was the only candidate
for Governor who had been "certified sane." 

As it is well established that you can fool all of the people at least some
of the time, it is quite possible that this strategy of making lemonade  from
lemons may have worked.  It is possible, too, that in this context a
suggestion that Jack Benny (or anyone) run for Governor of Georgia, would
imply that their sanity--or lack thereof--would not be a handicap.

Ed Hutchison
Jackson, MS

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:39 -0400
From: Jack Harris <jack@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Magic Island missing shows??

Ian I still can't figure out about the missing two episodes. There should
be 130 as that would make sense for a run. However I have listened to them
closely (I thought) and can't figure out what is missing. Like any good
serial they always tell you what happened last time and it always is what
happened last time. One dealer claimed he had all 130 but no one seems to
know what two are missing. I am going to listen to the two you say are
missing. (the few episodes before and after and see if they are. It would
be nice to know. I would be more than happy to buy the missing two.

Jack Harris



for dive videos, computers and astronomy
visit [removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:34 -0400
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jan Miner, John Dehner & ?

I don't think anyone has mentioned that
Jan Miner has also appeared on stage.
It's been quite a few years, and it was
after Jan became known as "Madge" in
TV commercials, but I saw her in a
stage production by the St. Louis Rep.
Theater.

I also want to mention that, sometime
during the years 1951-53, I was having
lunch in a Hollywood restaurant and saw
John Dehner, Larry Dobkin and another
man walk in.  The third man was not Sam
Edwards, since I had seen him before in
a radio show.  I have often wondered if
that third man might have been Harry
Bartell, whose face is unknown to me.  I
read, in this digest, that he appeared on
TVs "Gunsmoke."  I wonder if anyone
knows some specific episode, or some
specific movie, that Mr. Bartell was in.
Perhaps Mr. Bartell could help me out
here.

Harry Machin Jr.
harbev5@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:21:48 -0400
From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mississississippi  River

	Hi Anybody,
    The one exception on the boundries (East and West) at the Mississippi
River was and is [removed] radio in St. Louis which is the oldest station in St.
Louis (1921) and is still going strong.
     West of "the" river  was given  "K"in front of it's call letters and "W"
East of "the" river.
					Till Next Time,
					Harold

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:36 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
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Subject:  Mary Jane Higby

Glen Schroeder recalls Mary Jane Higby's memoirs which he believes were
published in the 1970s.  Actually they surfaced originally in 1966.

And he asks if she is still with us.  Regretfully, Ms. Higby, one of soap
opera's most memorable and beloved actresses, died Feb. 1, 1986 in New
York City.  This queen of the audio heroines is best recalled for her
portrayal of Joan Field Davis in the durable When a Girl Marries.  She
also turned up as villainess Cynthia Carter Swanson Whitney on The
Romance of Helen Trent and in lots of other running parts, including most
of daytime's fare.

She was inspiration to me in preparing The Great Radio Soap Operas
(McFarland, 1999) for I knew that no work beyond her own 1966
autobiography had been produced limited to that aural genre.  And none
offered detailed data from a wide spectrum of the washboard weepers so I
was able to feature 31 of the most prominent from a list of 205 series.
Ms. Higby was helpful to me in 1969 by providing some material that
eventually appeared in this volume.  I attempted to "do her justice" by
including several behind-the-scenes anecdotes from her experiences and a
photo of this luminary when the book finally took shape.

She was married in 1945 to another of daytime radio's most auspicious
actors, Guy Sorel, who turned up in dramatic runs on Backstage Wife
(where he was Larry Noble during the final 8 years of that run), and in
roles on Just Plain Bill and Road of Life as well as a lot of nighttime
radio theater.

Jim Cox

Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:31 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
Subject: Unidentified subject!


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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:20:12 -0400
From: Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jennifer Jones - OTR Digest V01 #234

The following sites should profide useful info on Jennifer Jones - At
least I can hope so! ===> ELMER
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Cecil B. DeMille - Lux Radio Theater Listing of DeMille films.
URL: [removed]

Yahoo! Entertainment>Actors and Actresses>
Help - More Yahoos Home > Entertainment > Actors and Actresses > J All
sites UK sites only Ireland sites only This category only advanced
search [ A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P
| Q | R | S | T |
URL: [removed].

Pseudonyms of famous people
URL: [removed]...

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:43 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  A Possible Why CAC Solution

Sharing a possible solution to a long time "why" of mine.
I've never worked "Calling All Cars" and now I may know
the reason. Bobby!  *Grin*

[removed]


--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:16:27 -0400
From: dabac@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Scarce favorites?

I was wondering - what are some of the rarer series of once popular otr
shows?  Dan

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:28:06 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jennifer Jones

Someone asked about whether actress Jennifer Jones did any radio.
I only know of two,

Philco Radio Hall of Fame  (2/20/44)  with Charles Bickford,
       Reed Hadley, Jerry Lester, and Helen OíConnell.
       On this show, Jones and Bickford sing ́Song of Bernadette.î
The Academy Awards  (3/2/44)  Jones is among dozens of actors who
       appeared on the radio ceremony, with Jack Benny as [removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:51 -0400
From: "Norm Wyers" <nwyers@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  walter winchell

My great-grandmother was paid a tribute by Walter Winchell sometime around
July 29, 1940, her final birthday, or March 29, 1941, the day she died.  I
am attempting to locate the manuscript so that I can quote it in a book I am
writing about her son.  Her name was Pauline Tysen Wurdinger.

Thanks.

Norm Wyers
nwyers@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:35 -0400
From: "James G. DuPuy" <dupuy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Storing & listening to MP3 [removed]

Hi Guys & Gals!

Here we go again about Cds/magnetic media and mini disks.

From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
Subject:  Trouble hearing mp3 file

completely invalid because the trader forgot to make
sure that the letters ".mp3" followed the show title. The format was

Greg, copy those programs to your hard drive and then rename them, adding
the
.mp3 suffix.  You can then play them from the hard drive.

I would advise just burning a new cd with the 2 files corrected first.  THEN
try the following:

If the disc is still open he can import the last session, change the
filenames on those files (ie, tack on the .mp3 extension) and burn the
session.  The filename will be updated and the (corrected) CD remains
usable and copyable for future trades.

Reason being that if something goes wrong, it is possible to make the disk
unusable.  It's not likely, especially if
the disk was being repaired from the original recorder, but if your computer
crashes or "locks" up (pretty much the same difference) or there is a power
"glitch" or some such happens while you are doing this, you run the risk of
not being able to recover the disk.  I have had this happen.  Luckily, I had
the original files still on a zip disk that time.  (used zip disks before I
got a cd burner) That is also the reason I COPY files to cds and not MOVE
them.  CDs are normally very reliable, but you do get bad ones on occasion.
Actually, almost no media is a perfect solution.  the old LPs were actually
very reliable as long as you keep them in good condition and use a turntable
with a good cartridge and stylus. (Replace the stylus before it starts
wrecking your albums!)  I still remember my dads old 78 player that used
steel needles!  It probably had 28+ grams of pressure on the groove!  No
wonder those records got noisy real fast!  I have an old AR (Acoustic
Research) turntable with an Ortifone (hope I am spelling it right) cartridge
that tracks at under a gram now.  I admit though that I have used it very
little over the past 10 years.

MP3 is a great format as long as you don't try to record at too low a bit
rate.  I use 128 for music and never below 32 for OTR.  (more like 48 to 64)
I also store to CDs but I COPY first, then listen to the CD file. THEN
delete from the HD.  Has saved me a few times.  Now I archive to CDs but
listen from my Hip Zip player.  It is a lot smaller that a CD player, and
uses the Click (now pocket zip) disks.  They seem to be very reliable and
the unit can save and load any file as well so I keep all my work files
(ASCII files for our controllers) on a couple of the disks so it is great to
just plug it in the USB, dump a file or so and take it with me home or to
work or to customers.  The audio quality is excellent!  I use it in the car
all the time with a cassette adaptor.  The only down side is that you can't
change the battery.  It has a built in Lithium Ion.  On the plus side, it
recharges very fast and a charge lasts all day (continuous playing!) I have
a spare AC unit at work so I can always charge it.  It now supports audible
format now too.  It's small enough to pop in your pocket and bouncing does
not bother it near as much as a CD player.  Never had it "skip" even on
really long stretches of horrible pot-holed roads!  That would be well
beyond the usual 30 to 40 seconds of memory on the average CD player.  (LOTS
of pot holes in Ohio!)  I do hear that the Rio Volt is a great unit.  I just
find that it would be way to big to fit a pocket.  The HipZip also has a 12
step Treble & 12 step Bass control in addition to the usual
"Rock/flat/classical/jazz" setting you usually see.  I really like that.
Enough plugging, Great OTR to everyone!

I don't suffer from insanity, I create and enjoy every minute of it!
Mitsy, my yorkie dog says; "I'm so darn cute even I can't stand it!"

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:34 -0400
From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ave Maria Hour

There is a web site for the program, apparently it is back on the air in
limited markets.
Here is the site:
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:32 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR had few superheroes, thank God.

Jer51473@[removed] suggests that, by definition, a superhero must have "1)
abnormal powers or abilities, but not necessarily impossible or
[removed] and 2) super has to mean some sort of costume or disguise
that in real life no one would wear as a daily garb."

Then, I guess, the Lone Ranger would qualify as a Superhero - shooting a
gun out of the moving hand of an outlaw riding a horse, while mounted
himself on Silver, borders on being a superpower, and he wore that mask.
The Shadow, on the other hand, would not because, although he meets the
first qualification (on radio if not in the pulps), his accessories, a
slouch coat and opera cape, were not unheard of in his day, although the
popularity of such garments was certainly waning.

The Spirit of the comic pages would barely qualify as a superhero,
purely on the basis of his domino mask and his extraordinary ability to
take a beating and bounce back. Tarzan might have been a superhero,
since his garb was unusual for an English nobleman, albeit practical for
the climate, and his abilities certainly exceeded those of normal men.

Doc Savage wore no costume (unless you count the torn broadcloth shirt
he wore on all the Bama covers), but he did have that unusual bronze
skin. (BTW, have you ever noticed how many elements of the Superman
comics were derived from Doc Savage? "The Man of Steel" from "The Man of
Bronze," the Fortress of Solitude, etcetera. Superman was sort of an
amalgam of DS and a reverse John Carter). Not sure if Doc Savage was on
OTR, but there are some enjoyable NTR shows of his adventures.

Actually, by any definition, there were not a lot of superheroes on OTR,
and thank God for that. As one who once aspired to be a comic book
artist, did his thesis on comic books, and once narrated and engineered
the world's first, I am confidant, radio comic book review, I must say
that a plague of superheroes has all but destroyed comics as an art
form. Where there used to be a wide variety of genres including
detective, crime (not the same), horror, science-fiction, comedy,
romance, funny animals, adventure, pirates, war and a host of others,
today there is little but sophomoric superheroes and, worse yet, many of
them are developing the silly Walter Keane eyes of anime and manga.
Apparently, comics are following the decline of popular music, which
long ago abandoned meaningful lyrics and has managed to get melody down
to the single note of "Who Let the Dogs Out?"

Try going into a comic specialty shop today and asking if they have any
comics that don't feature superheroes and note the quizzical stare you
get from the proprietor; in most, comic book and superhero are taken to
be near synonyms. Many comics shopkeepers with claims of knowledge of
their field have never even heard of EC Comics. A form of entertainment
which has become a serious creative endeavor in Europe is, in the
states, reduced to considerations of whether The Submariner could beat
up Aquaman. A single Carl Barks Uncle Scrooge story contained more
research, character development, plot twists and narrative drive than a
whole ten-part X-Men serial adventure.

Of course, much of this resulted from the crippling of the medium by the
Comics Code, largely at the hands of Mr. Goldwater of Archie comics (no
reflection on the radio show, Hal!). Again, thank God there were few
superheroes on radio, even in children's programming. I prefer to think
not, but, conceivably, if radio adventure drama had survived, it would
have deteriorated as comic books have. If so, we should be grateful that
it was allowed to die a dignified death.

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:30 -0400
From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  radio character names - Jack Benny Program

Since I've noticed an interest in radio character names I'd like to throw in
my two-cents worth and ask a question to boot.
I've noticed that almost everyone on the Jack Benny Program worked under an
alias. By this I mean although Jack was called Jack Benny on the show, he
clearly wasn't actually playing himself. He was playing a character named
Jack Benny which was nothing like the real man. Mary Livingstone (although
she later took on the name in real life) originally was not named Mary
Livingstone. That was a character created specifically for the show (and to
give her a part I assume).
We all know Rochester's real name was Anderson and even Dennis Day was born
with another name (although it slips my memory at the moment. I remember
hearing an interview with one of the writers and Phil Harris who pointed out
that the name Dennis Day was created for the show and over the years, like
Mary, it stuck and the performer came to "become" Dennis Day since that was
all his fans referred to him as).
Now, my question is: I assume Don Wilson never worked under a psuedonym, but
I could be wrong. Anybody have anything on this?

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:31:28 -0400
From: Ryan Ellett <ryanellett@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR community

Does anyone have an educated guess as to the size of
the OTR collecting/listening community? Swartz and
Reinehr estimate it at 1,500 in "Handbook of Old-Time
Radio". But that was written in 1993, before the
Internet had really taken off. Surely that number has
grown since then. Any insights?
Ryan



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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:33:19 -0400
From: "Albert P. Cohen" <apcohen@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnny Dollar

I have run a bit behind in my reading of the Old Time Radio messages and saw
a question about missing Johnny Dollar episodes from 1956.

I reviewed a log produced many years ago by Radio Yesteryear about episodes
in their collection.  I checked their listings for the specific titles
note by the writer.  Here are the items they did not have (which coincides
with the questioner's list).  Clearly, however,  failure of one vendor to
list certain items is hardly proof that the episodes no long exist.

1.  McClain Matter - #3 - 2/8/56 - not listed
2.  Salt City Matter - #2 - 4/3/56 - not listed
3.  Sea Legs Matter - #5 - 8/3/56 - not listed
4.  Cranesburg Matter - #2 - date unknown - not listed
5.  Imperfect Alibi - #2 - 9/18/56 - not listed

I then checked the programs against my tapes, recorded from WAMU.  Of those
programs, the only one I have is #2 of The Cranesburg Matter.  The show
was a six part story. The dates were Friday 8/24, 8/27, 8/28, 8/29, 8/30,
8/31.   My collection and the Radio Yesteryear list has the previous story
as being the Crystal Lake Matter.  That 5-part story line ended on August
17, 1956.   I have not listened to the tapes for some time but I know one of
the multi-parters had an irregular schedule due to the election [removed]  Ah
nuts, it was driving crazy so I pulled the tape.  The Republican Convention
took the time slot on 8/20 through 8/23/56.  That is why the Cranesburg
Matter was a six-parter.

Hope this helps.

Al Cohen

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:38:16 -0400
From: Kubelski@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Fred Allen Remembered

This is sort of off-topic, but for those of us worried about the legacy of
Fred Allen, an article in the New York Times today opens it with a Fred Allen
quote "Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Television."  Implicit in this is
that the people reading the article would know who Fred Allen was.  All is
not lost.

Sean Dougherty
Kubelksi@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:16:27 -0400
From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
To: "otr digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Amos and Andy - Self-serve gas

I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. I remember hearing an
episode of Amos and Andy and would like to find out the title of the episode
(and maybe locate a copy of the show itself). In it A'n'A are speculating on
what business venture they could go into and one of them proposes opening a
gas station only the other one says that would be too much work.
The first one says they could have the customers do the work and pump their
own gas and of course the response is that the idea was plumb crazy. Who in
their right mind would pay to be able to pump their own gas? Indeed.

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From: Mike Ray <MRay@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: My Super Hero
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:54:22 -0400

Hi Gang:
My super hero is and has been since I was
a kid, Orson Welles. Mr. Welles (the first
Lamont Cranston) was one of the very few
real genius of OTR. (Elliott Lewis would be
another) He direction, vision, writing and
acting were absolutely spellbinding. He talents
were unlike anything I had ever encountered,
then or now. I'm so thankful so much of his
work is still with us. He remains our obedient
servant

Mike Ray
616-451-3061 Ext. 140

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