Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #298
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 8/2/2003 3:32 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 298
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Births and Deaths w/e 8-9             [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Seabiscuit                            [ Osborneam@[removed] ]
  Efrem Zimbalist                       [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
  Re: Overseas News Transmissions.      [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Bob Hope and Jack Benny               [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
  Bob Hope Page                         [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
  Reliable Sources                      [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Trivia                                [ Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed]; ]
  CD/MP3 players revisited              [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
  bob hope tribute                      [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Bribing of librarians, secretaries,   [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:54:19 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Births and Deaths w/e 8-9

Births August 3rd

08-03-1894 - Harry Heilmann - San Francisco, CA - d. 7-9-1951
sportscaster: WXYZ Detroit
08-03-1896 - Wendell Hall - St. George, KS  - d. 4-4-1969
singer: (The Red Headed Music Maker) "Eveready Hour"; "Red Headed Music Maker"
08-03-1903 - John S. Young - Springfield, MA - d. 1-12-1976
announcer: Foreign news for NBC in Nyw York
08-03-1905 - Dolores Del Rio - Durango, Mexico - d. 4-11-1983
actress: "Hollywood on the Air"
08-03-1905 - Gaylord Carter - Wiesbaden, Germany - d. 11-20-2000
organist: "Amos 'n" Andy"; "Breakfast in Hollywood"
08-03-1917 - Larry Haines - Mt. Vernon, NY
actor: Carl Ward "Young Dr. Malone"; Fred Molina "This is Nora Drake"
08-03-1920 - Marilyn Maxwell - Clarinda, IA - d. 3-20-1972
singer, actress: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Bob Hope
Show"
08-03-1923 - Jean Hagen - Chicago, IL - d. 8-29-1977
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-03-1926 - Tony Bennett - NYC
singer: "[removed] Woolworth Hour"; "Songs for Sale"; "Stepping Out"

Deaths August 3rd

02-04-1918 - Ida Lupino - London, England - d. 8-3-1995
panelist, actress: "Hollywood Byline"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
08-06-1923 - William B. Williams - Babylon, NY - d. 8-3-1986
disc jockey: WNEW New York City
08-12-1892 - Alfred Lunt - Milwaukee, WI - d. 8-3-1977
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Theatre Guild on the Air"; "Treasury Star
Parade"

Births August 4th

08-04-1889 - William Keighley - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-24-1984
host: Lux Radio Theatre
08-04-1890 - Carson Robison - Near Chetopa, KS - d. 3-24-1957
singer: "Eveready Hour"; "Dutch Masters Mimstrels"
08-04-1897 - Abe Lyman - Chicago, IL - d. 10-23-1957
bandleader: "The Jack Pearl Show"; "Lavender and New Lace"; "Waltz Time"
08-04-1901 - Louis Armstrong - New Orleans, LA - d. 7-6-1971
trumpeter: "Pursuit of Happiness"; "Sealtest Village Store"; "Story of Swing"
08-04-1903 - Helen Kane - The Bronx, NY - d. 9-26-1966
actress: (The Boop-Boop-a-Doop Girl) "Today"s Children"
08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder Bakers Trio"
08-04-1908 - Wally Maher - Ohio - d. 12-27-1951
actor: Dan Murray "One Man"s Family"; Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"

Deaths August 4th

04-05-1901 - Melvyn Douglas - Macon, GA - d. 8-4-1981
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-19-1920 - Frank Fontaine - Cambridge, MA - d. 8-4-1978
comedian: John L. C. Sivoney "Jack Benny Program"
11-16-1904 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon"s Jazz Concerts"

Births August 5th

08-05-1887 - Reginald Owen - Wheathampton, England - d. 11-5-1972
actor, writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-05-1890 - Al Goodman - Nikopol, Russia - d. 1-10-1972
orchestra leader: "Fred Allen Show"; "Al Goodman"s Musical Album"; "Your Hit
Parade"
08-05-1906 - John Huston - Nevada, MO - d. 8-28-1987
actor, writer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-05-1908 - Wilbur Evans - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-31-1987
singer:"Vicks Open House"; "Stars from the Blue"
08-05-1911 - Robert Taylor - Filley, NE - d. 6-8-1969
host, actor: "Good News of 1938"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Plays for Americans"
08-05-1912 - Lew Valentine - San Benito, TX - d. 6-1976
quizmaster: Mennen Jury Trials"; "Dr. [removed], the Mental Banker"
08-05-1914 - Parley Baer - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 11-22-2002
actor: Chester Wesley Proudfoot "Gunsmoke"; Doc Clemmens "Rogers of the
Gazette"
08-05-1920 - Selma Diamond - London, Ontario, Canada - d. 5-14-1985
writer: "The Big Show"

Deaths August 5th

02-09-1909 - Carmen Miranda - Lisbon, Portugal - d. 8-5-1955
singer: "Hello Americans"
04-02-1914 - Sir Alec Guinness - London, England - d. 8-5-2000
actor: BBC Free Lance
06-01-1926 - Marilyn Monroe - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-5-1962
actress: "Hollywood Star Parade"; "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
06-04-1918 - Howard Culver - Colorado - d. 8-5-1984
actor: Steve Adams/Straight Arrow "Straight Arrow"; "Free lance"
08-20-1881 - Edgar Guest - Birmingham, England - d. 8-5-1959
poet: (Poet Laureate of Radio) "Edgar Guest in Welcome Valley"; "It Can Be
Done"
11-10-1925 - Richard Burton - Pontrhydfen, South Wales - d. 8-5-1984
actor: Readings of poetry, plays and school programmes for the BBC
11-20-1916 - Judy Canova - Stark, FL - d. 8-5-1983
comedienne: "Paul Whiteman"s Musical; Varieties"; "Charlie McCarthy Show";
"Judy Canova Show"

Births August 6th

08-06-1881 - Leo Carrillo - Los Angeles, CA - d. 9-10-1961
actor: Pedro "Grapevine Rancho"
08-06-1881 - Louella Parsons - Freeport, IL - d. 12-9-1972
commentator: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Louella Parsons"
08-06-1886 - Billie Burke - Washington, [removed] - d. 5-14-1970
comedienne: "Billie Burke Show"; Mrs. Featherstone "The Gay Mrs. Featherstone"
08-06-1911 - Lucille Ball - Celoron, NY - d. 4-26-1989
comedienne: Liz Cooper "My Favorite Husband"; Lucy Ricardo "I Love Lucy"
08-06-1915 - Jim Ameche - Kenosha, WI - d. 2-4-1983
actor: Jack Armstrong "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy"; Jim West
"Silver Eagle"
08-06-1917 - Robert Mitchum - Bridgeport, CT - d. 7-1-1997
actor: "Family Theatre"; "So Proudly We Hail"
08-06-1922 - Jackie Kelk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-2002
actor: Jimmy Olsen "Advs. of Superman"; Homer Brown "Aldrich Family"
08-06-1923 - William B. Williams - Babylon, NY - d. 8-3-1986
disc jockey: WNEW New York City
08-06-1925 - Barbara Bates - Denver, CO - d. 3-18-1969
writer: "Just Plain Bill"; "Mr. Keen, Tracer of Lost Persons"

Deaths August 6th

02-19-1893 - Sir Cedric Hardwicke - Stourbridge, England - d. 8-6-1964
actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"; Winston Churchill "These Four Men"
04-17-1923 - Harry Reasoner - Dakota City, IA - d. 8-6-1991
reporter: CBS News Washington
10-01-1909 - Everett Sloane - NYC - d. 8-6-1965
actor: Frank Kennelly, "Twenty-First Precinct"; Alfred Drake "This Is Nora
Drake"

Births August 7th

08-07-1911 - Ray Nicholas - Galesville, WI - d. 6-16-1979
director: Free lance
08-07-1926 - Stan Freberg - Los Angeles, CA
comedian: "That"s Rich"; "The Stan Freberg Show"

Deaths August 7th

01-18-1892 - Oliver Hardy - Harlem, GA - d. 8-7-1957
comedian: "The Laurel and Hardy Show" Pilot, never broadcast
02-09-1901 - Walter Preston - Quincy, IL - d. 8-7-1982
singer: "Philco Hour"
02-20-1931 - Amanda Blake - Buffalo, NY - d. 8-7-1989
intermission guest: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-10-1903 - Leon Bismark "Bix" Beiderbecke - Davenport, IA - d. 8-7-1931
jazz musician: "Band Remotes"
05-18-1900 - Raymond Paige - Wausau, WI (R; Los Angeles, CA)- d. 8-7-1965
conductor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Musical Americana"; "Stage Door Canteen"

Births August 8th

08-08- 1900 - Victor Young - Chicago, IL (R:  Warsaw, Poland) - d. 11-11-1956
conductor, composer: "Shell Chateau"; "Old Gold Don Ameche Show"
08-08-1895 - Nat Pendelton - Davenport, IA - d. 10-11-1967
actor: "Dr. Kildare"
08-08-1905 - Nino Martini - Verona, Italy - d. 12-9-1976
singer: "Seven Star Revue"
08-08-1905 - Ross Graham - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-5-1986
singer: "Cities Service Concert"; "Show Boat"
08-08-1907 - Benny Carter - NYC - d. 7-14-2003
saxaphonist, songwriter (Professor) "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin
Street"
08-08-1910 - Sylvia Sidney - The Bronx, NY - d. 7-1-1999
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-08-1913 - Axel Stordahl - Staten Island, New  - d. 8-30-1963
conductor: "Songs by Sinatra/Frank Sinatra Show"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Coke
Time"
08-08-1921 - Webb Pierce - West Monroe, LA - d. 2-24-1991
singer: "Louisiana Hayride"
08-08-1922 - Rory Calhoun - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-28-1999
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-08-1923 - Esther Williams - Los Angeles, CA
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Tex and Jinx"
08-08-1926 - Richard Anderson - Long Beach, NJ
actor: "Suspense"

Deaths August 8th

04-29-1904 - Russ Morgan - Scranton, PA - d. 8-8-1969
bandleader: (Music in the Morgan Manner) "Russ Morgan Orchestra"
07-19-1914 - Lou Krugman - Passaic, NJ - d. 8-8-1992
actor: Tony Griffin "Romance of Helen Trent"; Ulysses Hink "Dear Mom";
"Gunsmoke"
07-26-1899 - Danton Walker - Marietta, GA - d. 8-8-1960
broadway columnist: "Forty-Five Minutes on Broadway"; "Twin Views of the News"

Births August 9th

08-09-1892 - Joe Emerson - Grand Rapids, MI - d. 9-30-1969
gospel singer: "Hymns of All Churches"; "Hymn Time"
08-09-1901 - Charles Farrell - Onset Bay, Cape Cod, MA - d. 5-6-1990
actor: Verne Albright "My Little Margie"
08-09-1903 - Don Bernard
director: "Blondie"; "Life of Riley"; "Meet Mr. Meek"
08-09-1905 - Leo Genn - London, England - d. 1-26-1978
actor: Free lance

August 9th Deaths

01-29-1915 - Victor Mature - Louisville, KY - d. 8-9-1999
actor: "Hollywood Star Playhouse"
08-24-1900 - Jimmy Fidler - St. Louis, MO - d. 8-9-1988
commentator: "Jimmy Fidler"

--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Jay Jostyn

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:54:26 -0400
From: Osborneam@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Seabiscuit

In OTR Digest #295, Derek Tague (hi Derek!) asks:
What I would like to know is: what exactly is
a "seabiscuit?" Is it some sort of comestible that sailors eat?

Seabiscuit was sired by Hardtack.  His name was a cute
play on words of his daddy's name.

According to my Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary:
Hardtack, is a hard biscuit or bread made of flour and water without salt,
suitable for long sea voyages due to its
keeping qualities.

Arlene Osborne

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:54:22 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Efrem Zimbalist

Would anyone know if there is a familial connection between famed
violinist Efrem Zimbalist who guested with The New York Philharmonic on
CBS (between 1927-63) and the actor by that name (Efrem Jr.) who starred
in ABC-TV's The FBI series (1965-74)?  Just curious.  Not a common
moniker.

Jim Cox

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:56:53 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Overseas News Transmissions.

On 8/2/03 11:20 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

Anyway, as I was reading, I got to wondering about the technical
requirements of getting field reports from the battlefield on the
air. Before the relaxation of the recording ban, how did the
reporter's story get routed from his transmitter in, say, North
Africa, to the network in New York and then live to the rest of the
country? Yes, I know that field transmissions were on short wave, and
picked up somehow. Was it generally one or two hops to get home,
[removed], transmit in N Africa, where it's picked up in, say, London,
and then retransmitted to NY, etc? Something like that?

And another thing. How did he know WHEN to transmit? He finds a
story, writes it, and somehow locates a transmitter. How did the
reporter know exactly when to start talking?

It was actually a lot less complicated than this -- in fact, the entire
process was strictly regimented and carefully controlled by the military
authorites. The vast majority of reports were given from central
transmitting points administered by Allied forces and made available on
an equal basis to all networks. Correspondents would line up in the
studio and, one by one, would take a seat at the microphone and deliver
their reports, according to a schedule worked out well in advance by the
military authorities and transmitted to the engineering departments of
each network, often over the same circuit used to transmit the actual
reports but sometimes over a separate frequency. Actual live broadcasts
"from the field" were all but nonexistent -- most reports came from the
safety of a studio, far from the actual combat lines.

In the NBC Collection at the Library of Congress, there are a number of
recordings by RCA Communications in New York of raw news feeds from
Allied headquarters in North Africa. The reports are counted down and
cued by a droning-voiced engineer, and often include successive
transmissions by reporters representing NBC, CBS, Mutual, Blue, the BBC,
and the CBC, along with not-for-broadcast reports read at dictation speed
for the use of the wire services. In these transmissions, the Army
engineer can be heard stating something like "Next is Joe Blow reporting
for the National Broadcasting Company in New York transmitting two
minutes from -- mark. Joe Blow transmitting one minute and forty five
seconds from -- mark.  Joe Blow transmitting to the National Broadcasting
Company in New York one minute and thirty seconds from -- mark.  Joe Blow
transmitting to the National Broadcasting Company in one minute. One
minute from -- mark." And so on until the final countdown: "A report from
Joe Blow for NBC in New York in 5 seconds - 4 -- 3 --- [removed]" and the
final two seconds would be silent to allow the network to pick up the
transmission. The New York announcer would be signalled by the engineer
to announce the report, and hopefully, the introduction would end by the
time of this silent cueing interval, and the report could be smoothly cut
into the broadcast. Sometimes this didn't work, and the report would end
up being upcut by a second or two, or the wrong circuit would be cut in,
or any number of other problems could occur.

But even with these problems, the process was far from random. In fact,
the most interesting aspect of these raw feed recordings is the fact that
often the reports delivered by the various correspondents are close to
*word for word identical,* indicating that the reporters were often doing
nothing but reading what was put in front of them by the military
authorites, rather than generating original reports of their own. This
wasn't always the case, of course, but neither was it a rarity.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:56:56 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob Hope and Jack Benny

Chris Chandler, speaking of Bob Hope and Jack Benny, asks,

Who was more influential?  Who left bigger footprints?  And perhaps
just as importantly, just a couple months after we watched clueless
entertainment writers celebrate The Big 100 by crediting Bob with many of
Jack's innovations--once the Hope Death Hoopla dies down, who will be
better remembered in future times?

This is almost an apples/oranges question.  Jack Benny was a consummate
comedian.  Unquestionably a master of timing,

By contrast, Bob Hope was a really fine comedian who played well to an
audience.  Even in some of his films, he'd speak directly to the
audience.  In fact, in "The Princess and the Pirate," he gave a partial
thumbnail of the film plot before starting to play in the film.

Both could be extremely funny.  Jack Benny's world was self-contained;
Bob Hope's was more open.  _As a comedian_, IMHO, Jack Benny was the
better.  How, as an entertainer, they both had equivalent stature.  Bob
Hope's dedication to bringing some entertainment to servicemen, which
revved up in World War II extended through three other conflicts, and
between them as well.

I think both left giant footprints, but they wore different-style shoes.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:47:31 -0400
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob Hope Page

Here is a nice web page that someone sent me.

[removed]

Allen

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:07:27 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Reliable Sources

From: Dick Judge <dickjudge@[removed];
When it comes to authoring a book on OTR is it better
to use scripts over actual broadcast recordings? I'd go
with the broadcasts but a combination of both is perfect.

The script is what was PLANNED to be broadcast, so the recording of the
broadcast would be more accurate to note what had been changed on the
airing.  But often episode titles and numbers exist only on the script.

It should be remembered that if the recording is made from the line from
the studio, there is a possibility that the program was different when
aired.  There are examples of programs that had been interrupted for news
bulletins also existing in the complete form as from the studio.  Likewise,
the program listings in the newspapers and radio guides are what was
scheduled, not necessarily the same as what was aired.  That is why it is
great to have the NBC logs available at the Library of Congress.  Changes
are pencilled in.

My friend Tim Brooks who co-authors the Complete Guide to Prime Time
Television Programs refers to an even more authorative source--the ratings
books.  The program had to go thru the entire transmission chain and be
viewable in homes in order to be listed.  Books for individual markets will
also list whenever there were transmission failures, even for just parts of
programs.  When I've mentioned this in the past I've drawn a blank as to
where there might be repositories of detailed radio ratings from the OTR
era.  Has anybody made any discoveries of these--not just the annual
summaries, but the day-by-day listings?

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:29:13 -0400
From: Kenneth Clarke <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Trivia

          This one's fairly easy for me.

          The musical was "Mame" (based on the book "Auntie Mame"
by Patrick Dennis).  Angela Lansbury and Willard Waterman were
in the Broadway version.  (Rosalind Russell was in an earlier movie
adaptation.  I believe she might have done some OTR work. )  Lucille
Ball played the title role and Bea Arthur played Vera in the last movie
version.  There was a song (one of my favorites) called "Bosom Buddies"
which referenced 'Orphan Annie and Sandy, like Amos and Andy.'

          I never saw the Angela Lansbury version (but have it on tape).
Rosalind Russell's Mame, IMHO, had more of a sense of fun to her.
Lucille Ball (while very good with the slapstick) was a bit  too hard.
Especially in  the latter part of the movie.   I always considered Mame
as a madcap type character to begin with, who  matured a bit with age
(while keeping her sense of fun throughout.)

          Here's a trivia question for everyone, while we're on the
subject
of  "Mame".  Does anyone remember what Mame's philosophy of life
was?  (This should be pretty easy.)

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:48:27 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CD/MP3 players revisited

First, thanks for the great posts when I asked for recommendations on
CD/MP3 players.  I got some great information.  I have a second and
hopefully last question.  Do any of you listers out there have a CD/MP3
player which is small, I carry mine on the bus, and which has a cue
feature so that you can hear the show go by in fast forward or rewind?  I
am looking for a player that is small, has a resume feature, and where
you can hear the program going past in fast forward or rewind if you are
in play.  Since I am a blind person and can't see numbers going by or
whatever, I want to be able to know when I have zipped through a
commercial or even a segment of a show.  Any help on this question would
be appreciated.  I thank you all again for your patience in this matter.
Kurt

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:03:53 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  bob hope tribute

For what it's worth, I think it was perhaps a year or two ago that someone
like People magazine issued a tabloid-style tribute to Bob Hope.  I'm not
sure just why they chose to publish it just then, but it was all over every
grocery store in our area.  Perhaps Mr Hope was ill but didn't die quite
when he expected to.

I think he would have thought that these circumstances were amusing and
would have derived some splendid material from them.  A few years ago,
whichever President we had declared a "Bob Hope Day."
Hope's reaction was, "When you're 97 years old, every day is Bob Hope Day."

He will indeed be missed.

M Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]~mkinsler1

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Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:42:42 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bribing of librarians, secretaries, etc.

The corruption of archive librarians and associated institutional officials
was brought up a few weeks back, and since I've had experience in this field
I thought I'd contribute.

What you need is a large clear plastic jar, typically available from your
Dollar Tree or other $[removed] store.  Then, a trip to Sam's Club to buy a
couple of exceedingly large bags of M&M's, preferably the peanut variety.
Glue a note describing your particular interests or needs onto the outside
of the jar plus one or two of your business cards or stickers.  Fill the jar
with M&M's and deliver it, personally or via UPS.  (When I delivered one to
UPS, the young workers there laughingly said that they might not be able to
guarantee delivery.)

I think the strategy works best if you've worked with the people previously,
but you'll have to take your chances.  It won't work at a college with
anyone who has or thinks he has faculty rank, but it's great with the, uh,
real people.  We smoothed our way through the dissertation process by
delivering such a gift to the Graduate Records Office at our school.  And we
recently made up another such pack of destruction for the much-abused
nursing staff who'd been attending my crazy father in the hospital in
Cleveland over the last couple of weeks.

If it'll work with these people, I'll bet it'd enable you to plug in a good
tape recorder at a record library.

Sam's Club is best because the M&M's are fresh.  M&M's are somewhat silly,
but don't look pretentious and are always good.  Several pounds will do.

M Kinsler

dedicated to the corruption of the guardians of OTR shows, etc.

512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
[removed]~mkinsler1

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