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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 323
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Dangerfield                           [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  Benny and Rodney Dangerfield          [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
  John Daly-WML Mystery Guests          [ "Tim Lones" <timl2002@[removed] ]
  SPERDVAC meeting this Saturday        [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
  How the programs worked               [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
  radio writers                         [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
  Halowe'en Program'mes                 [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  Thanks, all                           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Gildy's Blade                         [ "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed]; ]
  A Benny birthday                      [ "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed] ]
  Rodney Dangerfield                    [ ABCDiehl@[removed] ]
  Lux Radio Theatre                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  10-8 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  old microphone/lamp?                  [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
  Jack Benny                            [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:56:41 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Dangerfield

The name "Dangerfield" goes back through showbiz history. Stan Laurel
played a character named Dangerfield in 1926, and several other films of
that decade had characters with that name. Between 1903 and 1948, Ella
Howard Bryan wrote dozens of Western stories under the pseudonym Clinton
Dangerfield.

Jack Benny and Ellen Drew starred in Paramount's BUCK BENNY RIDES AGAIN
in 1940. That same year, Ellen Drew headed the cast in Paramount's THE
TEXAS RANGERS RIDE AGAIN, portraying a character named Ellen "Slats"
Dangerfield, while May Robson appeared as Cecilia Dangerfield and John
Miljan played Carter Dangerfield. Possibly the plethora of Dangerfields
and the Ellen Drew connection inspired Benny's writers to concoct the
Rodney Dangerfield Western actor.

The comedian began performing in his teens as Jack Roy. When he married
in 1949, he spent 12 years as an aluminum-siding salesman, living with
his wife and children in Englewood, New Jersey. At the time of his
divorce, he decided to try for a comeback when he was 40 years old. The
NEW YORK MIRROR listed New York area nightclubs and acts. Since he
hadn't performed in years and didn't know how his new act would go over,
he wanted to appear, as he put it, "anonymously." He told Inwood Lounge
owner George McFadden to use "any name at all" except Jack Roy when
giving information to the MIRROR. When the emcee gave an introduction,
he said, "Here's Rodney Dangerfield."

Dangerfield's autobiography, IT'S NOT EASY BEIN' ME: A LIFETIME OF NO
RESPECT BUT PLENTY OF SEX AND DRUGS, was published last June by
HarperCollins. In recounting his comeback, Dangerfield writes, "My show
went fine, despite my nervousness, and afterward I asked the owner,
'Where'd you get that name?' 'I don't know,' he said. 'I made it up,
just like that.' All my friends said it was a funny name, so I decided
to keep it."

Nothing in the memoir indicates that Dangerfield knew (at the time) that
the name came from THE JACK BENNY SHOW. Perhaps McFadden did not even
listen to THE JACK BENNY SHOW but heard the name from someone who was a
listener. At any rate, it seems unlikely that Dangerfield could have
gone for long without learning the true source of the name.

Bhob @ FUSEBOX @ [removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:57:07 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Benny and Rodney Dangerfield

I'm on break from the club, but I'll take this one briefly.

"Rodney Dangerfield" was referred to on only a couple Benny shows, and was
years before the comedian began performing.  I had asked some time back if
the
inspiration for the name had been taken from the Benny show, but never got
an answer.

--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:16:38 -0400
From: "Tim Lones" <timl2002@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  John Daly-WML Mystery Guests
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It was indeed understood that John Daly would be the "Mystery Guest" if one
failed to show [removed] in 17 years, no one did. So On the last Show in August
1967 John Daly was the Mystery [removed] the panel almost didnt get [removed]

Tim Lones

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:19:12 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  SPERDVAC meeting this Saturday

The guest speaker at the Saturday, October 9th SPERDVAC meeting is former
child actor TED DONALDSON.  Ted is already an Honorary Member, having
appeared at a meeting in January, 1980 (almost 25 years ago!).

Ted began his career in the late 1930s in NYC on early TV(!), moving on to
stage, radio & films.  His radio work began on the Ted Malone Show,
following up with daytime serials & evening dramas.  Moving to Hollywood to
act in movies; he was in "Once Upon a Time" (film version of Norman Corwin's
"My Client Curley") with Cary Grant, among others, he continued radio work
on Screen Guild Players, Cavalcade of America and more. Ted was "Bud" on
Robert Young's "Father Knows Best" for 5 years on radio.

The meeting is free & open to the public and begins at 12 noon.  Meeting
place is the Mid-Valley Library, 16244 Nordhoff St., North Hills (in San
Fernando Valley).
See you there!

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:20:45 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  How the programs worked

"evantorch" <etorch@[removed]; Asked:

1.) Were all of the actors on the stage (if the
program was in front of an audience) all of the
time? When we here(sic) Jack Benny or Lux or Burns and
Allen was the cast sitting down waiting for their
parts; were guest stars on the stage the whole time?

And

2.) How many people used a microphone (for example
the RCA 44B)and how each actor knew what mike to go to?

No1. Correct, Evan.  My recall was guest stars were
introduced to the audience as part of the warm up so
that their sudden appearance to the microphone
wouldn't incite some sort of audible reaction from
the audience. The "Mayor of the Town" Show I worked >
on with Star Lionel Barrymore had announcer Ken
Peters or Frank Marrtin warm up the audience in
front of the stage's closed curtain which opened
upon their introduction of Mr. Barrymore who because >
of his arthritis was confined to his chair and
exclusive boom microphone at a table on stage. All
the other actors would used the microphones set up
for them.

Evan,Question No. 2. depended upon the story line
somewhat which set the the situation for a show's
microphone set up.
Bill Murtough, a stellar sound engineer for CBS
during my time there could explain just exactly the
thought process involved in each show's microphone
set up.

Obviously a show such as CBS "I Was There," which
used often stories involving crowd scenes would have
more than one microphone for the many people heard
rather than a story involving three men in a life raft
lost at sea.  Also microphones using a telephoned
voice were designated a 'filter' microphone and the
actor had to use it especially for that effect to be
broadcast otherwise actors weren't restricted to
which microphones they could use. Again Bill could
tell
you the technical setup used to 'balance' the audio
inputs from each microphone.

As for "weighty actors" like Harold Peary to have
overhead craned microphones? No, but Bill again may
have some stories about hefty actors to tell. *grin*

CAB

--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:21:03 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi friends,

	Here is this week's line-up for the week of 10-3-04 on my Olde Tyme
Radio
[removed] Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
streaming RealAudio at [removed]

Past archived broadcasts are also available there.

We look forward to having you join us!

	Jerry

Here's this week's lineup:

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges

MY FRIEND IRMA
Episode 2  4-18-47  "The Prize Fighter"
Stars: Marie Wilson, Cathy Lewis, John Brown and Leif Erickson
Music: The Sportsmen and Lud Gluskin and His Orchestra

THE DINAH SHORE SHOW
11-16-44  "Football"
Guest: Charles Laughton
With: Robert Emmett Dolan and His Orchestra and The Joseph Lilley Chorus

THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
12-11-61  "Adventure of the Resident Patient"
BBC Production aired in the United States
Stars: Norman Shelley and Carlton Hobbs

THE BURNS AND ALLEN SHOW
Episode 24  3-13-40  "GRACIE ALLEN FOR PRESIDENT" Part 3
This is the Third of a 14-part mini series, which we will be airing over the
next 11 weeks.
CBS    HINDS HONEY AND ALMOND CREAM    Wednesdays 7:30 - 8:00pm
STARS: George Burns and Gracie Allen
WITH: Frank Parker
ANNOUNCER: Truman Bradley
MUSIC: Ray Noble's Orchestra
=======================================

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood

THE GREEN HORNET
NBC    12/29/40    "Phony Testing"
stars Al Hodge as Britt Reid/The Hornet.

ON YOUR MARK
WOR (Mutual NYC)    10/06/48
Bud Collyer is the MC of a New York City daily quiz show.

THE LONE RANGER
1950's- Original General Mills Promotional 78 RPM discs "Origin of The
Ranger" and "Finding Silver" stars Brace Beemer, John Todd and Fred Foy.
======================================

THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak

It's a program well calculated to keep you in ... SUSPENSE in
EPISODE NET 20 of The Glowing Dial as we present 5 of our favorite episodes
of radio's outstanding theatre of thrills, "Suspense".

Suspense - "Sorry, Wrong Number"
originally aired May 25, 1943 on CBS
(this is the Armed Forces Radio Service version)
Starring: Agnes Moorehead.
Sponsor: Sustained

Suspense - "Fugue In C Minor"
originally aired June 1, 1944 on CBS
Starring: Vincent Price, Ida Lupino.
Sponsor: The Roma Wine Company of Fresno, California

Suspense - "The House In Cyprus Canyon"
originally aired December 5, 1946 on CBS
Starring: Robert Taylor, Cathy Lewis, Hand Conreid, Jim Backus, Howard Duff,
Paul Frees, Wally Maher.
Sponsor: Roma Wine Company of Fresno, California

Suspense - "On A Country Road"
originally aired November 16, 1950 on CBS
Starring: Cary Grant, Cathy Lewis, Jeanette Nolan, Harlow Wilcox voicing the
commercials.
Sponsor: Autolite

Suspense - "Zero Hour"
originally aired May 18, 1958 on CBS
Starring: Evelyn Rudie, Ellen Morgan.
Sponsor: co-sponsored (this episode has no commercials)
====================================

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
shows.

            Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387

  [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place
  Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:21:13 -0400
From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  radio writers

John Crosby of the New York Herald Trib was one of the
most famous radio critics of the 40s-50s; a book of
his best columns, Out of the Blue, is a classic.  Ben
Gross of the NY Daily News was perhaps the first
nationally known radio critic and Jack Gould of the NY
Times, better known as a TV critic, got his start
writing about radio. On the west coast, Dwight Newton
of the San Francisco Examiner, Terry O'Flaherty of the
Chronicle and Cecil Smith of the LA Times were also
well known radio critics of that era.

Michael Berger

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:24:04 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Halowe'en Program'mes
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Hi Gang:

My vote for a great Hallowe'en show is that Lucille Fletcher-scripted story on
"Suspense" involving a creepy pipe organ which starred Vincent Price. The
exact title "escapes" me.

Yours in the eeeeeee-ther!

Derek Tague

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:59:56 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Thanks, all

I just wanted to offfer thanks to all who offered good wishes during my
recent hospitalization -- I'm back home now and am making a
slow-but-steady recovery. It'll probably be a while yet before I'm fully
caught up on correspondence, to say nothing of back OTR-Digests, but be
asssured all your kind thoughts were much appreciated.

Elizabeth

"The Original Amos 'n' Andy" -- Coming in Spring 2005 from McFarland & Co.
[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:20:13 -0400
From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Gildy's Blade
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Re: Gildy's Blade:

One was offered for sale on E-Bay a few years [removed]
I dropped out of the bidding when it exceeded fourty dollars!

regards,
Ken Lanza
klanza@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:20:38 -0400
From: "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed];
To: "OLD TIME RADIO LIST (E-mail)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A Benny birthday

Jell-O all,

I will be 39 this January and I want to have a birthday with a Jack Benny
theme. I am looking for ideas and ways to make it a Benny day. If anyone has
any ideas please post them. You're only 39 once you know, well maybe more
than once.

Thanks
Chris

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:43:02 -0400
From: ABCDiehl@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Rodney Dangerfield

In an interview I had with comedian Robert Klein who became friends with
Rodney
when Klein was getting his start in stand-up,  Klein said  Dangerfield  once
told him he took his name from the phone book.  I see that another OTR posting
believes a nightclub
owner chose the name. Will we ever know?  One thing's for certain, in death
Rodney Dangerfield is now getting a lot of respect!   He was unique, or as
Klein said "a brilliant pioneer in comedy."
Bill Diehl
ABC Radio Network
New York

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:12:03 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lux Radio Theatre

Someone asked the question what star appeared on the most Lux Radio Theatre
broadcasts. I must admit I did not do the research on this , someone else did.
Eddie Marr is the all time champ having appeared over 400 times, but as far as
the Hollywood stars go, Fred MacMurray appeared 27 times and Loretta Young
appeared 26 times. They have to distinction of appearing more than any other
Hollywood star.
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:12:15 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  10-8 births/deaths

October 8th births

10-08-1881 - Oscar O'Shea - Peterboro, Canada - d. 4-6-1960
actor: John Marshall "Those We Love"
10-08-1897 - Rouben Mamoulian - Tiflis, Georgia, Russia - d. 12-4-1987
film director: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
10-08-1908 - Albert Matz - NYC - d. 4-26-1985
screen writer: (One of Hollywood Ten) "Words at War"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-08-1918 - Ron Randell - Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-08-1919 - Gabriel Dell - Barbados, British West Indies - d. 7-3-1988
actor: (The Dead End Kids) "Texaco Star Playhouse"

October 8th deaths

01-09-1916 - Fernando Lamas - Buenos Aires, Argentina - d. 10-8-1982
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-26-1913 - William Prince - Nichols, NY - d. 10-8-1996
actor: "Crime Does Not Pay"; "Philco Radio Playhouse"; "Somerset Maugham
Theatre"
02-04-1895 - Nigel Bruce - Ensenada, Mexico - d. 10-8-1953
actor: Doctor John H. Watson "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"
02-18-1892 - Wendell Willkie - Elwood, IN - d. 10-8-1944
presidential candidate: "Information Please"
04-29-1914 - Derek Guyler - Wallasey, Merseyside, England - d. 10-8-1999
actor: "It's That Man Again"
05-01-1942 - Joan Hackett - NYC - d. 10-8-1983
actress: "CBS Mystery Theatre"
07-23-1908 - Karl Swenson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-8-1978
actor: Lorenzo Jones "Lorenzo Jones"; Lord Henry Brinthrope "Our Gal Sunday"
08-02-1900 - Helen Morgan - Danville, IL - d. 10-8-1941
hostess, singer: "Helen Morgan, Songs"; "Broadway Melodies"; "Fred Allen Show"
08-30-1887 - Eduardo Ciannelli - Island of Ischia, Italy - d. 10-8-1969
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-06-1886 - Gus Kahn - Koblenz, Germany - d. 10-8-1941
lyricist: "Good News of 1938"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:13:01 -0400
From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  old microphone/lamp?

Steve Salaba comments:

OK, here's a puzzler. I've decided that I'd like to have a table lamp that
looks like it was made out of an old fashioned microphone. Or maybe made
from a *real* old microphone. It just seems to present many possibilities
for jokes about covert recording ("Just speak into the lamp") as well as
the OTR reference. My search of the internet has come up with nothing. Have
any of you heard of or seen such a thing? I can always get an old mike and
make one myself, I suppose, but ready-made would be nicer.

There were early radio speakers that were designed as lamps but I have
never seen a microphone as such. In the early days of broadcasting
sometimes the microphone would be disguised as a lamp as some performers
had severe mic fright and couldn't perform in front of one. Vintage
broadcast microphones go for pretty steep prices, especially the classis
RCA ribbon velocity microphones like the 44 and 77 series which can go
for over $1,000. Older carbon button mics of the late 1920's early 30's
also command equally high prices. Modifying one to turn it into a lamp
would destroy it's vintage value.

You might check ebay as there are many vintage mics offered and you
might find something not to expensive that would do, also check under
novelty radios, there were some transistor sets that were built into
plastic reproductions of old mics.

Bill H.

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:34:54 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny

     I heard that Jack Benny had a problem with
his hands.  This so-called problem, issue, or whatever
precipitated his trademark in the industry of saying,
'Well!' and cradling his chin in his hand. Was it
because he was unsure of what to do with them? Did
this start on radio?  Did it begin after he was broadcast
on television and could be seen by his audience?  Did
this issue ever exist to begin with?

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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