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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2008 : Issue 15
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Fred Allen recording                  [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Reel to Reel                          [ John edwards <jcebigjohn41@hotmail. ]
  1-16 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ charlie@[removed] ]
  Nightwatch doc., Arch Oboler, OTR on  [ Charles Salt <charles_salt@hotmail. ]
  Stinkers                              [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Jewish characters on OTR              [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  Cincinnati Convention Date            [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  RE: The 'Dream' Hour                  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  1-17 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:59:35 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Fred Allen recording

I am trying to locate the broadcast date for an episode of the Fred Allen
radio program that featured Portland and Allen going down Allen's Alley and
knocking on Senator Claghorn's door, where the line the Senator delivers is:

SENATOR: When I eat crackers in bed I only eat Georgia Crackers.

He then sings a line of Swanee River.

I have discovered that it is an episode of Fred Allen that has been
circulating for decades, and not one that has just recently been circulating.
Can anyone help?

(Derek Tague told me that Elizabeth McLeod is an expert on Fred Allen, so
maybe she can help shed light?)

Martin

mmargrajr@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:59:51 -0500
From: John edwards <jcebigjohn41@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Reel to Reel
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Hi, Always enjoy reading The Digest.  There are probably few who read this
that are still using the old Reel to Reel tapes.  I am one & a trader friend
in Ohio is another.  At this point we both have extra blank reels.  If you are
looking for some good quality reel to reel tape contact me off list.  Also,
does anyone know for sure of the dates scheduled for the Cincinnati Convention
this year?

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:14:03 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-16  births/deaths

January     16th births

01-16-1878 - Harry Carey, Sr. - NYC - d. 9-21-1947
actor: "Lincoln Highway"; "Suspense"
01-16-1890 - Lloyd Bacon - San Jose, CA - d. 11-15-1955
film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; " Screen Director's Pla
01-16-1895 - Irene Bordoni - Ajaccio, Crosica, France - d. 3-19-1953
singer: "The Coty Playgirl"
01-16-1895 - John B. Kennedy - Quebec, Canada - d. 7-22-1961
commentator: "Collier's Hour"; "RCA Magic Key"
01-16-1901 - Sid Silvers - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-20-1976
actor: Beetle "Phil Baker Show"; "Jack Benny Program"
01-16-1907 - Alexander Knox - Strathroy, Ontario, Canada - d. 4-25-1995
actor: "Document A/777", BBC
01-16-1907 - John Hiestand - Madison, WI - d. 2-5-1987
announcer: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Cinnamon Bear"; "Feg Murray Show"
01-16-1909 - Ethel Merman - Astoria, NY - d. 2-15-1984
singer" "Ethel Merman Show"; "Home Front Matinee"
01-16-1910 - Dwight Weist - Palo Alto, CA - d. 7-16-1991
actor: Mr. District Attorney "Mr. District Attorney"
01-16-1910 - Jay Hanna "Dizzy" Dean - Lucas, AR - d. 7-17-1974
baseball broadcaster: (Baseball Hall of Fame) "Game of the Day"
01-16-1914 - Roger Wagner - Le Puy, France - d. 9-17-1992
chorale director: "It's Time for Johnny Mercer"; "America Sings"
01-16-1916 - Joe McMichael - Minneapolis, MN - d. 2-12-1944
singer: (The Merry Macs) "Bing Crosby Show"; "Fred Allen Show"
01-16-1916 - Norval Taborn - d. 1-23-1990
singer: (The Vagabonds) "The Breakfast Club"
01-16-1917 - Brainerd Duffield - Boston, MA - d. 4-5-1979
writer: "The Ford Theatre"
01-16-1920 - Elliott Reid - NYC
actor: Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's Family"
01-16-1922 - Lina Romay - NYC
latin singer: "The Bing Crosby Show"; "The Dick Haymes Show"
01-16-1924 - Allen Swift - NYC
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
01-16-1924 - Katy Jurado - Guadalajara, Mexico - d. 7-5-2002
actor: "George Fisher Interviews the Stars"
01-16-1929 - Popeye the Sailor - d. will live forever
cartoon character: "Popeye"
01-16-1947 - Michale Falconer Anderson - Aberdeen, Scotland
author of radio plays

January 16th deaths

02-12-1888 - Victor Kolar - Budapest, Hungary - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"
03-23-1905 - Sidney Walton - Mississippi - d. 1-16-1958
announcer: "Arthur Tracy, Street Singer"; "Changing Times"
03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
05-03-1907 - Earl Wilson - Rockford, OH - d. 1-16-1987
columnist: "Earl Wilson's Broadway Column"
06-13-1908 - Carl Eastman - NYC - d. 1-16-1970
actor: "Mrs. Miniver"; "Renfrew of the Mounted"
06-26-1913 - Jack Moyles - d. 1-16-1973
actor: Major Daggett "Fort Laramie"; Rocky Jordan "A Man Named Jordan/
Rocky Jordan"
07-31-1892 - Herbert W. Armstrong - Des Moines, IA - d. 1-16-1986
preacher: "Plain Truth"; "The World Tomorrow"
09-01-1907 - Ray Barrett - NYC - d. 1-16-1973
announcer, newscaster: "Monitor"; "Talent Search, Country Style"
09-22-1875 - Guy Bates Post - Seattle, WA - d. 1-16-1968
actor: Ulysses S. Grant "Roses and Drums"
10-06-1908 - Carole Lombard - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 1-16-1942
actor: "The Circle"; "Hollywood Hotel"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:12:01 -0500
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over nine years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!

Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!

For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:17:55 -0500
From: Charles Salt <charles_salt@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Nightwatch doc., Arch Oboler, OTR on film and TV

I have a few questions I was hoping the list members might be able to help me
with please:

1. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the following Nightwatch item
please?
"a 2 hour 1980 interview. A LOOK
BACK 1980 2:00:00 Interview about the "Nightwatch" Series includes
excerpts with Frank Language and those not used in the regular series."

2. Did Arch Oboler ever write his memoirs and if not, has anyone ever
published something similar about him?

3. Could someone recommend to me (either on or off the list) reliable online
vendors of Old Time Radio-related films and TV shows on DVD?

Many thanks for your help,
Charles

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:30:04 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Stinkers
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       I know what you mean.  Some of the movies that were made of
radio shows ("Dick Tracy", "The Whistler", "The Shadow', and "The
Third Man", [removed]) weren't as good on the screen as they were on the radio.
But let's be fair, it was a visual medium and radio was not.  Radio allowed
their audiences to use their imaginations to a greater extent than movies
did.
Let's also be honest, the term "stinky" is about as subjective a term as you
can get.  Some radio fans might consider the translation of these radio
programs to movies, and later to television, a bold move and about as good
as the  medium could handle at the time.

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:30:13 -0500
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jewish characters on OTR
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        I can understand what you mean about there being stereotypical
Jewish characters on OTR.  The two which immediately spring to my mind
are Mrs. Nussbaum from the "Allen's Alley" section of "The Fred Allen
Show" and Molly Goldberg from "The Goldbergs".  There were stereotypical
references made about these characters along the way, but to my
knowledge, none of them were intentionally mean spirited.

       Stereotypes of other characters were also easily found.  What about
Southern (Senator Claghorn, "Vic and Sade", "Sam and Henry", [removed]),
aged (Titus Moody, [removed]), gay (Rembrandt Watson from "Candy Matson"),
characters of color (Beulah from "The Martin Hurt and Beulah Show" and
all of the characters from "Amos and Andy").

       I think it's because we're more aware of them (stereotypes) today than
at that time.  Then, OTR took the public as it was in general and tried to
find
humor their audiences could relate to.  Some of the references of various
groups of people which were broadcast then might today be considered
offensive.  Who knows? We've probably just become more sensitive to them
now than we as a society were then.

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:30:19 -0500
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cincinnati Convention Date

Does anyone have the date for the Cincinnati Convention?

Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:55:56 -0500
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: The 'Dream' Hour

Just wondering; could it have been the "Dreen" Hour, as a program sponsored
by Dreen Shampoo?

Thanx,
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*Today's Lucky Number is 369	*

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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:29:48 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-17 births/deaths

January 17th births

01-17-1874 - Edna Wallace Hopper - San Francisco, CA - d. 12-14-1959
Gave beauty tips on the networks 1930-1932
01-17-1875 - Minetta Ellen - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-2-1965
actor: Francis 'Fanny' Barbour "One Man's Family"
01-17-1880 - Mack Sennett - Richmond, Quebec, Canada - d. 11-5-1960
king of silent comedy: "Hear It Now"; "Biography In Sound"
01-17-1884 - Noah Beery, Sr. - Kansas City, MO - d. 4-1-1946
actor: "Campbell Playhouse"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1891 - Marjorie Gateson - Brooklyn, NY - d. 4-17-1977
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1899 - Nevil Shute - d. 1-12-1960
novelist: "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-17-1903 - Warren Hull - Gasport, NY - d. 9-14-1974
actor: Jack Hamilton "Gibson Family"
01-17-1904 - Grant Withers - Pueblo, CO - d. 3-27-1959
actor: "Calling All Cars"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
01-17-1904 - Knox Manning - Worcester, MA - d. 8-26-1980
announcer: "Advs. of Sherlock Holmes"; "Headlines on Parade"
01-17-1905 - Peggy Gilbert - Sioux City, IA - d. 2-12-2007
saxophonist: "The Early Girls and the Three Chirps"
01-17-1910 - Tex Fletcher - Harrison, NY - d. 3-14-1987
actor: Tex Mason "Songs of the B-Bar-B"
01-17-1914 - Ann Loring - NYC - d. 7-10-2005
actor: "Casey, Crime Photographer"; "X Minus One"
01-17-1914 - Howard Marion-Crawford - England - d. 11-24-1969
actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"
01-17-1914 - Irving Brecher - NYC
writer, producer: "Community Sing"; "The Life of Riley"
01-17-1915 - Hugh Brundage - Montana - d. 3-31-1972
announcer: "Academy Award Theatre"; "Aunt Mary"
01-17-1919 - Dallas Townsend - NYC - d. 6-1-1995
newscaster: "CBS World News Roundup"; "World Tonight"
01-17-1921 - Herb Ellis - Cleveland, OH
actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"
01-17-1922 - Betty White - Oak Park, IL
hostess: "Betty White on Animals"
01-17-1926 - Moira Shearer - Dunfermine, Scotland - d. 1-31-2006
worked briefly as a radio announcer in the 1980s
01-17-1927 - Eartha Kitt - North, SC
singer: "Here's to Veterans"
01-17-1930 - Dick Contino - Fresno, CA
accordionist: "Horace Heidt and His Musical Knights"
01-17-1931 - James Earl Jones - Arkabutla, MS
actor: "We Hold These Truths"
01-17-1941 - Clive Elvyn Rice (Clyde Campbell) - Haslemere, Surrey,
England
actor: Bobby Benson "Bobby Benson and the B-Bar-B Riders"

January 17th deaths

03-06-1916 - Rochelle Hudson - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 1-17-1972
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
03-22-1907 - Bernice Claire - Oakland, CA - d. 1-17-2003
vocalist: "Waltz Time"
08-17-1913 - Guy Della-Cioppa - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-2000
director: "An American in Russia"; "The Columbia Workshop"
09-20-1912 - John W. Loveton - d. 1-17-1997
director: "The Shadow"; "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Court of Missing Heirs"
09-22-1915 - Vincent Donehue - Whitehall, NY - d. 1-17-1966
actor: Neil Davison "Home of the Brave"
09-24-1904 - Jan August - NYC - d. 1-17-1976
pianist, bandleader: "Quarter hour broadcast on Mutual during 1947-48
09-26-1919 - Barbara Britton - Long Beach, CA - d. 1-17-1980
actor: Pamela North "Mr. and Mrs. North"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
10-10-1903 - Vernon Duke - Pskov, Russia - d. 1-17-1969
broadway composer: "Mildred Baily Show"; "Good News of 1940"; "March
of Time"
10-20-1925 - Art Buchwald - Mount Vernon, NY - d. 1-17-2007
humorist: "Monitor"
11-27-1910 - Ray  Herbeck - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-17-1989
bandleader: "Ray Herbeck and His Orchestra"
11-30-1920 - Virginia Mayo - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-17-2005
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-02-1916 - Charlie Ventura - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-17-1992
tenor sazophonist: "Spotlight Bands"; "Gene Krupa and His Orchestra"
12-15-1896 - Betty Smith - NYC - d. 1-17-1972
author: "Studio One"; "Hallmark Playhouse"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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