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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 228
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Chiss Sweese                          [ "Norman/Karen Schickedanz" <schick@ ]
  Re: The Lone Ranger's Orgin (Frank O  [ "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@sbc ]
  The Biggest Benny Laugh               [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  Re: Godfrey: How are [removed]            [ dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  Henry Aldrich movies                  [ DR <swl2010@[removed]; ]
  8-22 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Lone Ranger and his origins           [ "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed]; ]
  Re: Henry Aldrich                     [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:01 -0400
From: "Norman/Karen Schickedanz" <schick@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Chiss Sweese

Hello.

Following on Ken Greenwald's comment about the longest laugh on "Jack
Benny,"  can someone tell me what the date of Mary's Chiss Sweese comment
was?

Thanks,
Norm Schickedanz
Tucson

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:58:11 -0400
From: "Phil Stallings" <redrydertexas@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: The Lone Ranger's Orgin (Frank Orgin)

Thank you, Frank McGurn for your note on The Lone Ranger's Orgin.  I've been
trying to decide how to put my thoughts into words ever since this nonsense
about The Lone Ranger being a bad guy started ... you have done a very
eloquent job of it .... Thank You ... Hi Yo Silver ...  Phil Stallings,
Brace Beamer/Lone Ranger Days Committee, Mt. Carmel, IL

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:06:53 -0400
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Biggest Benny Laugh

Where does that leave the audience's reaction to Jack's mention of "Dreer
Pooson?"

...followed by Frank Nelson's followup referral to Mr. "Pooson?"

Bill Knowlton

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:16:39 -0400
From: dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Godfrey: How are [removed]
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 ***"That Godfrey Guy"  Lee Munsick once told me that the Arthur Godfrey line
"How-are-ya, how-are-ya, how-are-ya?" was something greatly exaggerated by
mimics of the day much like the scenario where Ed Sullivan  impressionist Will
Jordan was the one who came up with "...rilly big shew."***

Somewhere I actually have a recording of perhaps the one known time Godfrey
actually used that line.  (I would love to hear any other instances.)

It was in 1979 in a PSA for Direct Deposit (I think from the Social Security
administration).  It popped up in a "Sears Radio Theater" episode.  Here's
how it began.

"Hi, remember me?  Suppose I were to say, 'How are ya? How are ya? How are
ya?'  Yes, that's me, Arthur Godfrey, and that line was hung on me years ago,
even though I never said it."

I'm sure it doesn't really "count" because by that date and Godfrey's own
admission, the legend was already out there.

Dixon

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:20:20 -0400
From: DR <swl2010@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Henry Aldrich movies

MCA purchased the rights to the Paramount library in the mid-fifties a
library of 750 pre-1948 titles (oddly Universal/MCA acquired some 1950's
features as well).  Paramoung sold them for fifty million dollars
deemingtyhem workless.  MCA/Universal since then has raked in over a
billion dollars in rentals of these films.

Included are the Henry Aldrich films.  The likelyhood they will be shown
on regular televisions again is nil.  Public TV stations purchase
classic films to air, hoever, these mostly consist of "A" features.
Never see the "B" stuff being run.

The good news is that the Henry Aldrich features are a part of the
Turner Classic Movies library, which licensed the entire Universal
library.  Go to [removed] and type a Henry Aldrich title in the
"search the movie database" feature and you will find them listed.  TCM
regularly airs lots of "B" films and sometimes in prime time.  Last
friday I recorded a Kay Kyser film on DVD that is only shown on TCM and
isn't out on DVD to purchase.  TCM is your best bet.  You can request
films you would like to be aired right from their homepage.

Trans-O

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:10:46 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  8-22 births/deaths

August 22nd births

08-22-1851 - Daniel Frohman - Sandusky, OH - d. 12-26-1940
broadway producer: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-22-1879 - Edward Johnson - Ontario, Canada - d. 4-20-1959
operatic tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
08-22-1887 - Julia Sanderson - Springfield, MA - d. 1-27-1975
singer, emcee: "Blackstone Plantation"; "Battle of the Sexes"; "Let's
Be Charming"
08-22-1893 - Cecil Kellaway - Capetown, South Africa - d. 2-28-1973
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"
08-22-1893 - Dorothy Parker - West End, NJ - d. 6-7-1967
author, panelist: "Author, Author"; "Information, Please"
08-22-1897 - Eddie Dunstedter - Edwardsville, IL - d. 7-30-1974
organist, conductor: "Gold Medal Fast Freight"; "Lineup"; "It
Happened in Hollywood"
08-22-1897 - Elisabeth Bergner - Vienna, Austria - d. 5-12-1986
actor: "Radio Hall of Fame"
08-22-1897 - Nick Lucas - Newark, NJ - d. 7-28-1892
singer: (The Singing Troubador) "Al Pearce and His Gang"
08-22-1904 - Don Prindle - d. 10-25-1968
writer: "The Abbott and Costello Show"; "Niles and Prindle"
08-22-1904 - Jay Novello - Chicago, IL - d. 9-2-1982
actor: Sam Sabaaya "Rocky Jordan"; Glenn Hunter "One Man's Family"
08-22-1906 - James Meighan - NYC - d. 6-20-1970
actor: Michael Waring "The Falcon"; Peter Carver "Lora Lawton"
08-22-1909 - Julius J. Epstein - NYC - d. 12-30-2000
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-22-1909 - Philip G. Epstein - NYC - d. 2-7-1952
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-22-1910 - David Victor - d. 10-18-1989
writer: "Joan Davis Time"; "Let George Do It"; "The Mel Blanc Show"
08-22-1910 - Lesley Woods - d. 8-2-2003
actor: Mary Wesley "Boston Blackie"; Margo Lane "The Shadow"
08-22-1910 - Rod Brasfield - Smithville, MS - d. 9-12-1958
comedian: "Grand Ole Opry"
08-22-1915 - Hugh Paddick - Hoddeston, Hartfordshire, England - d.
11-9-2000
actor: "Beyond Our Ken"
08-22-1920 - Ray Bradbury - Waukegan, IL
writer: "Bradbury 13"; "Martian Chronicles"
08-22-1922 - Shelley Winters - St. Louis, MO - d. 1-14-2006
actor: "Hollywood Star Preview"
08-22-1942 - Kathy Lennon - Los Angeles, CA
singer: (The Lennon Sisters) "Music on Deck"; "Voices of Vista";
"Guest Star"

August 22nd deaths

02-16-1903 - Norman Shelley - d. 8-22-1980
actor: John H. Watson "Corner In Crime, Saturday Night Theatre"
03-04-1892 - Helen Van Tuyl - Iowa - d. 8-22-1964
actor: Ellen Collins "Bachelor's Children"
04-08-1911 - Bob Dixon - Stamford, CT - d. 8-22-1998
announcer: Edward R. Murrow: created the phrase "Listen to Murrow
tomorrow"
06-03-1924 - Colleen Dewhurst - Montreal, Canada - d. 8-22-1991
actor: "Will Cather: A Look of Rememberance"
06-21-1909 - Ted Sherdeman - d. 8-22-1987
producer, director, writer: "Latitude Zero"; "Sad Sack"; "Sears Radio
Theatre"
07-28-1874 - Alice Duer Miller - NYC - d. 8-22-1942
author: "Author, Author"
11-21-1882 - Alfred White - d. 8-22-1972
actor: Soloman Levy "Abie's Irish Rose"
xx-xx-1910 - Lansing Hatfield - Franklin, VA - d. 8-22-1954
singer: "Met Opera Auditions of the Air"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:11:53 -0400
From: "Bob Watson" <crw934@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lone Ranger and his origins

Well, I have to admit that the thread about the Lone Ranger being a deserter
didn't hold much, if any, of my attention.  The Lone Ranger was created in a
very different time, using a very different medium from what we are
accustomed to today.  Part of the appeal of OTR, on my part, is to try to
experience what is perceived to be a very innocent time in our history.  I'm
not sure if folks living during that time were really innocent, or just
"wanted" to be that innocent due to the state that the country was in.
Anyone remember the 1960's?  TV gave us the likes of Batman, a Flying Nun, a
witch, and a genie.  Not to mention the ongoing space race, which, as a
child, I followed intensely.  All the while, the Vietnam War was getting
into full swing amid the backdrop of civil rights and war protests.  We
found escape from the real world in those absurd situation comedies.  I
suspect that was the function many of the OTR shows that have survived for
us to enjoy had when they originally aired.
Take Superman, for example.  The same remarks that allowed us to be privy to
Superman's secrets were never given a second thought by the characters on
the show, because if they had, it would have defeated the purpose.  Those
remarks were made for us, the listener, to hear.  If Perry, Jimmy and Lois
had paid attention, the show would have lost its edge and cliffhanger
suspense on most of its episodes.  Imagine Perry, Lois and Clark in
conversation, Jimmy comes in and says, "Clark, there's a warehouse fire on
the corner of 5th and Main, you better change to Superman and take care of
it."  Somehow, that just doesn't have the edge of Clark hearing the fire
engine sirens and having to figure a way to get away from Perry and Lois.
We, as OTR fans, need to just accept the shows for what they are, and not
try to dissect a 1930's show with new millenium attitudes.

[removed] said that.

Frank McGurn mentions the established Lone Ranger origin and gives credit
where credit is [removed] Tonto.

[removed] I'm not sure of [removed]

Wasn't the "established" version of the Lone
[removed] in the run??

I seem to recall somewhere that in the late 30's or early 40's, that a woman
had found the Ranger after the Cavandish Ambush, not Tonto.

My question [removed] there an earlier "established" origin that differs
from the later version?  Or was the Ranger's origin presented in bits and
pieces for the listener to fit together and an established origin not
presented until late in the run.

And if there was a different "established" [removed] was it?

Thanks for muddling through my tyraid.

Bob

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:34:09 -0400
From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Henry Aldrich

Martin Grams just posted a response to a question about the old Henry
Aldrich movies.

But he left out an interesting fact, having to do with OTR. The actor who
played the Henry Aldrich role in those early movies was none other than my
good friend and super nice guy, James (Jimmy) Lydon.

Jimmy has been a fixture at many recent OTR conventions, and his warm
personality, acting talents, and ever fascinating stories about his
experiences in show business are worth the price of admission alone.

I real fun guy to be [removed] tells it like it is, like it was, and always
with a twinkle in his eyes.

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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