Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #412
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Date: 11/15/2003 1:51 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 412
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  20 Million Sweethearts                [ RBackus22@[removed] ]
  11-15 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The shy Art Carney                    [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
  Looking for OTR dealer                [ P Larsen <larsenhouse@[removed]; ]
  Art Carney shows - help needed        [ Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed]; ]
  writing to the stars                  [ "Micheal Leannah" <mleannah@charter ]
  Radio Revival                         [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Big Band Sites                        [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  Cinnamon Bear Map, please             [ "Jim Erskine, Homeway Press" <homew ]
  big band links                        [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
  Re: Arkansas vs. Arkansas             [ Kcpymurphy@[removed] ]
  Penny Singleton obit                  [ Michael Berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
  11-16 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:00:19 -0500
From: RBackus22@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  20 Million Sweethearts
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   For those of you always on the lookout for OTR related movies, Turner
Classic Movies ran "20 Million Sweethearts" (Warner, 1934) this afternoon.
   Pat O'Brien as a fast talking con man/talent scout "discovers" Dick Powell
as the country's newest radio Romeo. Actual performances by the Mills
Brothers and Ted Fio Rito's band as well as entertaining imitations of other
radio
stars of the day.
   Not academy award material, but fun to watch for the OTR fan.

           Dick Backus

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:00:02 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-15 births/deaths

Shichi-Go-San Day (Japan)

November 15th births

11-15-1879 - Lewis Stone - Worcester, MA - d. 9-12-1953
actor: Judge James Hardy "Hardy Family"
11-15-1881 - Franklin Pierce Adams - Chicago, IL - d. 3-24-1960
panelist: "Information Please"
11-15-1919 - Carol Bruce - Great Neck, NY
singer: "Ben Bernie Orchestra"; "Carton of Cheer"
11-15-1919 - Veronica Lake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-7-1975
actress: "Exploring the Unknown"; "Request Performance"

November 15th deaths

04-28-1878 - Lionel Barrymore - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-15-1954
actor: Leonard Gillispie "Dr. Kildare"; Mayor "Mayor of the Town"
05-05-1914 - Tyrone Power - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-15-1958
actor: Dean Edwards "Freedom [removed]"
08-28-1898 - Charlie Grimm - St. Louis, MO - d. 11-15-1983
Sportscaster:(Jolly Cholly) WBBM Chicago
12-19-1888 - Fritz Reiner - Budapest, Hungary - d. 11-15-1963
conductor: "Curtis Institute Musicale"; "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:55 -0500
From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The shy Art Carney

Thank you Hal and Irene for your postings on Art Carney. I rarely saw the
Honeymooners on the first go around.
I guess that having a TV would have helped but the other was that having
been raised in an alcoholics home I
found the blustery Ralph Kramden a little hard to take. Amazing that a run
of 39 episodes has become an all time
classic! My appreciation for Art Carney came in "Harry and Tonto" and also
in his small role in the TV version of
Fame. In Fame he had all of the earmarks of the shy character that has been
revealed in this digest. He was
very heartwarming. May the Lord be looking after him.
Ed Kindred

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:47:36 -0500
From: P Larsen <larsenhouse@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Looking for OTR dealer

What dealers have good quality MP3's?
I am tired of the 24k junk on ebay.

I am ok with 32k sets.

Thanks

PL

[ADMINISTRIVIA: There are plenty of places on the World Wide Web and USENET
to download 32kbps OTR.  --cfs3]

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:45:49 -0500
From: Max Schmid <mschmid@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Art Carney shows - help needed

Well now that I've shot my mouth off to the newspapers, I have to deliver!

Can anyone let me know of specific circulating shows that Art Carney
appears on? I mean title and date?  Actual episodes of "March of Time"
"Casey, Crime Photographer" or "The Magnificent Montague", or even Henry
Morgan shows?

I will be playing an episode of Land of the Lost, even though I have no way
of telling which of the three actors known to have played Red lantern is on
the show. Also to be heard, Columbia Workshop 8/11/46 "Wilbur, the
Psychoneurotic Automobile", featuring Arnold Stang, Carney and others. I
can probably dig up a Henry Morgan show, but if you know of an episode that
he's heavily featured on, it will save me a lot of time previewing many
shows by Sunday.

If my memory is correct, there's an episode of "Man Behind the Gun" where
there's a roll call with the actors calling out their real names, and I
think Carney was one of them. Ring any bells?

Please respond to me off-list if you have any concrete dates, etc. Many
thanks. Max

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:24:22 -0500
From: "Micheal Leannah" <mleannah@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  writing to the stars

Hello Anybody--
    I have a 12-year-old daughter and a son who is 9 and although they enjoy
modern singers and TV shows (at least somewhat), they have grown up
listening to the old-time singers and radio stars with me. Whenever a name
they're familiar with appears in the obituary column, they grieve a little
with the rest of us. My daughter's favorite OTR shows are Our Miss Brooks
and The Aldrich Family so when Richard Crenna and Jackie Kelk passed away,
she regretted not writing to them.
    Now Art Carney and Penny Singleton--other names familiar to them--have
died. My daughter asked me last night, "Are there any left I could write
to?" She was asking specifically about the Jack Benny Show and I had to tell
her no. "How about the Cinnamon Bear?" No. "Lone Ranger?" Uh-uh.
    We watched the Andy Griffith special the other night and that prompted a
couple of letters to Don Knotts and company. My son wants to write to TV's
Eddie Haskell (Ken Osmond). Of course they'll have more success aiming at
these stars of the '50s and '60s than with the radio stars of the '30s and
'40s.
    But then I got to thinking. The kids have written to retired athletes
and some other stars of various media and have gotten letters in return.
They even corresponded for a while with one of the munchkins from the Wizard
of Oz. I don't want to give up on the stars of radio, which is more beloved
to us than TV or the movies.
    I thought about Hal Stone, who the kids are familiar with, and Rhoda
Williams, who I met at the FOTR convention a couple of years ago. Perhaps
they would be receptive to a couple of kids' fan letters. I am sure there
are others. Can anyone advise me as to how to find current addresses of
people from old time radio? It can't be as easy as going to the public
library. The address books they have are probably filled with current TV
stars, etc.
    The kids just want to express their love and thanks to the owners of the
voices they hear on a daily basis, to make some kind of a connection. I'm
sure they'll respectfully ask for an autograph or the answer to a question
or two, with the understanding that nothing is promised or expected.
    Does anyone have any advice for making this happen? Do these people mind
being bothered? If not, how can I get their addresses? Does anyone have any
knowledge of a star of OTR who welcomes these kinds of letters, particularly
one who would be known by the kids in the audience? Should we include
stamped, addressed envelopes?
    Thanks to anyone who can help us at all with this.

Michael Leannah
Sheboygan, Wisconsin

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:24:40 -0500
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Revival

This article reviews an old-time radio style performance  -- it mentions
Jack Benny and demonstrates that recreations can get paying audiences and
favorable reviews.

Who knew?

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:42:58 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Big Band Sites

Stephen Davies posted

     I didn't hear an answer to Peter Appleyard's query for big band
MP3's.  There's a lot of websites where you can stream music, but not
download it.

Try [removed]
She has several big band mp3's available including alot of Glenn Miller  as
well as other big names and not so big names.

 He continued

        I have a similar big band problem.  I'm trying to find a
functioning discussion list about historical big bands.  Can anyone direct
me to a thriving list of band fans?

Try David Miller's website "Swinging Down The Lane" at [removed]

There is usually very lively conversation going on in the "Big Band Talk"
feature.

George Aust

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:25 -0500
From: "Jim Erskine, Homeway Press" <homeway@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cinnamon Bear Map, please

Could Dennis C. or someone please point us to the site with the hand drawn
map to track Paddy O'Cinnamon's adventures?

Also, any other good CB links to share, anyone?

Tis almost the [removed]

kylistener

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:39 -0500
From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  big band links
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If  you belong to a Usenet service, there are at least two groups that I
know of that post hundreds of big band and other 1940s-50s and earlier
music, almost all in Mp3 files.

The directories are:

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[removed]

Michael Berger

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:43:48 -0500
From: Kcpymurphy@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Arkansas vs. Arkansas
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I am from Kansas and Missouri; the river is pronounced "R Kansas" and the
state is pronounced "R Can Saw" -  at least in eastern Kansas and western
Missouri.
kacie

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 03:55:11 -0500
From: Michael Berger <intercom1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Penny Singleton obit
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Blondie got a fair sized AP obit but The Independent [UK] gave her a real
sendoff. To read it all, use this link:

[removed]

Michael Berger

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:38:58 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-16 births/deaths

November 16th births

11-16-1889 - George S. Kaufman - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 6-2-1961
panelist: "Information, Please"; "This Is Broadway"; "Who Said That?"
11-16-1896 - Jim Jordan - Peoria, IL - d. 4-1-1988
comedian: Mickey Donavan, "Kaltenmeyer"s Kindergarten"; "Fibber McGee "Fibber
McGee and Molly"
11-16-1896 - Lawrence Tibbett - Bakersfield, CA - d. 7-15-1960
singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Your Hit Parade"; "Golden Voices"
11-16-1899 - Mary Margaret McBride - Paris, MO - d. 4-7-1976
commentator: "Mary Margaret McBride"
11-16-1904 - Eddie Condon - Goodland, IN - d. 8-4-1973
guitarist, host: "Eddie Condon"s Jazz Concerts"
11-16-1908 - Imogene Coca - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-2-2001
comedienne: "Big Show"
11-16-1909 - Burgess Meredith - Cleveland, OH - d. 9-9-1997
actor: "Red Adams/Red Davis "Red Adams/Red Davis" (the precursor to "Pepper
Young"s Family")
11-16-1912 - George O. Petrie - New Haven, CT - d. 11-16-1997
actor: Michael Waring "The Falcon"; John J. Malone "Amazing Mr. Malone"
11-16-1916 - Daws Butler - Toledo, OH - d. 5-19-1988
actor: "Sears Radio Theatre"; "Stan Freberg Show"; "That"s Rich"
11-16-1916 - Jack "Smiling Jack" Smith - Fort Ward, Bainbridge Island, WA
singer: "Breezing Along"; "Prudential Family Hour"; "Jack Smith Show"

November 16th deaths

02-01-1901 - Clark Gable - Cadiz, OH - d. 11-16-1960
actor: "So Proudly We Hail"; "Silver Theatre"
04-12-1899 - Boake Carter - Baku, Russia - d. 11-16-1944
news commentator: "Night newscast for CBS"
08-04-1905 - Frank Luther - Lakin, KS - d. 11-16-1980
singer: "Luther-Layman Singer"; "Frank Luther Show"; "Happy Wonder Bakers Trio"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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