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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 176
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK [ "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed] ]
The Old Time Radio Gazette [ "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed]; ]
Sherlock & Tony [ Wich2@[removed] ]
This week in radio history 5/23-29 [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Gene Wood, Game Show Announcer [ Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@[removed]; ]
Re: CD Labels [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
MP3 player for walking [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
Protecting CDs with stickers [ "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed]; ]
kiddie show question! [ vigor16@[removed] ]
Re: [removed] something else I [ Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@sbcglob ]
It just hit [removed] [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
Gildy the Ice Cream Man [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
The Misadventures in Cassettes with [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
Temple of the Vampires [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Subject: About preserving cds [ <bruceglazer@[removed]; ]
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:06 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK
Hi friends,
Here is this week's line-up for the week of 5-23-04 on my Olde Tyme
Radio
[removed] Featuring Tom Heathwood's "Heritage Radio Theatre," Big John
Matthews and Steve Urbaniak's "The Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same
Station" broadcasts, being broadcast on demand 24/7 in high quality
streaming RealAudio at [removed]
Past archived broadcasts are also available there.
We look forward to having you join us!
Jerry
Here's this week's lineup:
SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
BEST PLAYS
Episode 35 5-8-53 "Of Mice and Men"
Stars: Burgess Meredith and Anthony Quinn
Author: John Steinbeck
THE NEW EDGAR BERGAN HOUR
Episode 11 1-22-56 Guests Rudy Whistler and Cecil Zong (Traffic Expert)
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HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
SPECIAL GUEST: Chuck Schaden
Broadcasting Hall of Fame member, radio historian, Chicago OTR broadcaster,
and author of the new book, "Speaking Of Radio," Talks with Tom about his 34
years in interviewing old time radio stars and his recollections in his new
book. Great sound clips of Jim Jordan (Fibber McGee), Jack Benny, Edgar
Bergen, Mercedes McCambridge, Bret Morrison, Les Tremayne and others.
Don't miss this one!
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THE GLOWING DIAL with Big John Matthews and Steve Urbaniak
It's time for The Glowing Dial's All Star Western Round-Up
Gunsmoke
#1 "Billy The Kid"
CBS 4/26/1952
with William Conrad, Parley Baer, Georgia Ellis, Don Diamond, Harry Bartell,
Howard McNear, Richard Beals, Paul Dubov, Mary Lansing. Sustained
The Lone Ranger
# 1270 "The Iron Horse"
WXYZ/ABC 5/12/1950
with Brace Beemer, John Todd. Fred Foy announcing.
Sponsored by General Mills
The Roy Rogers Show
"The Tall Tale Of Pecos Bill"
MUTUAL 5/8/1945
with Roy Rogers, Pat Friday, Bob Nolan and the Sons Of The Pioneers and
guest Porter Hall.
Sponsored by Goodyear.
Gene Autry's Melody Ranch
"Uncle Billy Harlow"
CBS 9/19/1948
with Gene Autry, Pat Buttram, Johnny Bond, Cass County Boys, Pinafores, Carl
Cotner Orchestra.
Perry Ward announcing.
Sponsored by Wrigley Gum
Frontier Town
# 24 "Gun Trouble Valley"
SYNDICATED 3/6/1953
with Reed Hadley
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Please feel free to contact me with any questions or requests for upcoming
shows.
Jerry Haendiges CET <Jerry@[removed]; 562-696-4387
[removed] The Vintage Radio Place
Largest source of OTR Logs, Articles and programs on the Net
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:36 -0400
From: "Arthur Funk" <Art-Funk@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Old Time Radio Gazette
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Today while looking for the Moylan Twins on Google for my wife, I came upon a
website previously unknown to me. I thought I'd share it here. Following is
copy/pasted from their "About Us" page:
"What began as a demonstration web page, The Old Time Radio Gazette is now a
center of statistics and information on Radio's Golden Age.
"Danny Goodwin has been doing research on old time radio, its programs,
performers, and sponsors since 1988. With the help of this website, he is now
presenting his findings on the Internet. If you're a fan of old time radio,
this web site is for you. If you're not, you may find that your interest
level has increased by looking over the information on this web site."
Their URL is: [removed]
Among other things they have some Hooper ratings information on primetime and
daytime programming from the 1930s and 1940s.
By the way, my wife was very pleased at the Moylan Twins stuff I found on
google. There was even a clip of them singing their theme song for Thrivo Dog
Food.
Regards to all,
Art Funk
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:13 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sherlock & Tony
Dear Jim, Derek, & [removed]
From: "Jim Harmon" <jimharmonotr@[removed];
I suppose it is generally known that Randall did not appreciate old time
radio at all
I've heard him say something to the effect that it was "just reading". I'll
grant that he was a solid actor; I'll also grant that bad radio actors - both
then, and now -"just read". But boy, that comment speaks more to his own lack
of respect for the medium than for anything else. Anyone who's listened to
the likes of Aggie Moorehead, Ray Collins, Joe Kearn, Bill Conrad - and many
more - knows that they were damn well acting!
An even greater talent, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, never fully appreciated his
great creation, Sherlock Holmes, either.
That's often stated, but needs an asterisk. It is indeed true that Doyle
tired of the character, killed him off, and brought him back mainly because
of the offer of an embarrassingly large check from America. BUT - by the time
of the last collection, "The Casebook", just 3 years before his death in
1930, he had softened enough to refer to Holmes's rebirth in the
introduction:
"I have never regretted [removed] These lighter sketches have (not) in actual
[removed] prevented me from finding my limitations in (other) branches of
[removed]
One likes to think that there is some fantastic limbo for the children of
[removed] Perhaps in some humble [removed] Sherlock and his Watson
[removed] find a [removed]"
And here's a good place to thank lister Derek Tague, for coming out to see us
bring the two out of that limbo last week. In our re-creation of OTR legend
Edith Meiser's first non-Doyle tale, both the cast and the house seemed to
enjoy their visit with The Great Detective and The Good Doctor.
Best,
-Craig "Sherlock" Wichman
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:22 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: This week in radio history 5/23-29
From Those Were The Days ---
5/23
1922 - The first debate to be heard on radio was broadcast on WJH in
Washington, DC. The two debaters argued about the topic of Daylight
Saving Time with the audience acting as the judge.
5/26
1940 - Invitation to Learning was first heard on CBS. The educational
program ran for 24 years.
5/28
1931 - WOR in New York City premiered The Witch's Tale. The program was
broadcast on the Mutual Broadcasting System (of which WOR was the
flagship station) where it aired until 1938.
5/29
1939 - When a Girl Marries was first heard on CBS.
1943 - The Million Dollar Band was heard for the first time on NBC.
Charlie Spivak was the first leader of the band that featured Barry Wood
as vocalist. The unusual feature of the show was the awarding each week
of five diamond rings.
Joe
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Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 23:19:53 -0400
From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gene Wood, Game Show Announcer
I don't know if Gene Wood did much in the way of radio announcing, but I
heard a report on CBS Radio's hourly news on Sunday night that Gene Wood
passed away at age 70, sometime within the past few days. (Some other
reports I've come across on the Internet say that he was 80).
There were numerous first-run-syndicated and network TV game shows
throughout the 1970s and 80s that Gene Wood announced for, and a few
that he even hosted. Most seem to have been Mark Goodson-Bill Todman
productions, including:
Tattletales, Password, Card Sharks, Family Feud, among many others.
Mark J. Cuccia
mcuccia@[removed]
New Orleans LA CSA
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:05:18 -0400
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: CD Labels
At 10:25 PM 5/23/2004, Jer wrote:
Most of my otr cds do not have
labels because i have not spent the extra money for such. Instead, i have just
labeled them myself using a marking pencil. They are not attractive, but i can
identify each. Question: how important is a label? I thought the underside of
the cd was what was important to protect, not the topside. Anyone, please
advise.
If you ask six people you will get six answers.
Labels are a tough question. Some people feel the lacquer surface that
protects the mirror layer can become damaged by various organic materials
in the adhesive.
Writing on a CD is also a tough question. All the authorities say use only
a water-based felt marker. Solvent-based markers are again thought to
damage the lacquer layer. The only thing really clear is you should never
use a pointed or hard object to write on CDs--do not use pencils or
ballpoint pens for instance.
I use labels made by Memorex on the theory they know how to make them so
there won't be a problem.
I use a Sharpie marker which is usually not recommended, but have no
failures as a result of doing so. I do let the ink dry before putting the
disc in an envelope or box. I have several water-based felt tipped markers
made for marking CDs and don't like any of them.
The data layer is just under the mirror layer which is on top of the disc.
The underside of the disc is a simple window and is the least worrisome
surface.
Some CD-R blanks have more durable lacquer coatings and advertise them as
such. I believe these are worth looking for. The discs are still vulnerable
as the bond between the silver or gold mirror surface and the dye layer is
poor. This is not a problem in commercial CDs because they do not use a dye
layer.
You won't like what a label does in a car player with a front loading slot
if it should get wrapped around the tiny rubber rollers that load and
unload the CD. Those loading mechanisms are tough on any CD-R. If you are
going to use a car player you should expect some wrecked CDs whether you
use labels or not. Overall, it's a better idea to use a flip-open portable
with a tape adapter for the car.
If a label ever comes off the disc, it may remove part of the reflective
layer rendering the disc useless. Cheap labels just don't make for a good
economy in my book.
Labels do provide a measure of protection for the data surface side, but
the best protection is keeping the CDs in a jewel box. Put labels on using
a tool and do not try to remove them to reposition them. Do not stack
unprotected CDs. If you keep your CDs in a slip case, be aware that long
fingernails can scrape the mirror surface easily.
When you make a bad CD, save it for destructive testing to see for yourself
how easily they can be damaged.
Don Shenbarger
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:05:51 -0400
From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 player for walking
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:04:17 -0400
From: Gerald Serrino <gserr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 player for walking
Does anyone know of an MP3 player that will play the
slow bitrate OTRs and has an antiskip function that
one could use for walking. I have a Rio but its not
good for that.
Gerald,
I'd suggest you look at the iRiver flash memory
portables. Even the least expensive model (~$99) has
128Mb. and plays MP3's ranging from 8Kbps. - 320Kbps.
Being a flash memory unit you don't have any
mechanical parts so anti-skip is a non issue. You can
check them out on their web page.
[removed]. You can buy direct or through
[removed] There may be others. You might even get a
deal on [removed]
I hope this helps,
Tom
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:23:16 -0400
From: "Lou Giliberto" <kd7hcw@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Protecting CDs with stickers
From: Jer51473@[removed]
Subject: About preserving cds
Instead, i have just
labeled them myself using a marking pencil. They are not attractive, but I
can identify each. Question: how important is a label? I thought the
underside of the cd was what was important to protect, not the topside.
Anyone, please advise.
That is true for commercially pressed CDs. However, for home-burned CDs,
you must protect the back (label side) even more. What looks like the
Memorex/Maxell/Pick-your-brand is actually the media itself. You can take a
CD-R (one that you don't want and can destroy), and scratch off the "paint"
and you will see the plastic is actually clear. It's this "paint" that
stores the data.
If you write directly on the "paint", it's best to use a non-permanent felt
marker or grease pencil. If the ink soaks through, or if you dent the
surface with a pencil, you will damage the media.
In some sense, then, a sticker will protect the media on a CD-R. However,
it's not critical. I store CD-Rs without stickers. More important is that
if you write on the "paint", be careful what you use. I use a Flair or
similar marker usually.
The same goes for DVD+-R's
Commercially sold CDs and DVDs are pressed rather than burned, so the paint
on the back is just that - paint.
-Lou
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:06:45 -0400
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: kiddie show question!
Hi all,
I have a friend who asked me bout a show I never heard of, though I
recall something but don't know where. He recalls a kiddie show when he
was young 30s to 40s that featured a couple children going under water
and talking with fish and other marine type animals and having
adventures. Sounds like a serial, the way he described it. He said it
was real fantacy for kids. I thought he might have been talking about
Magic Island, but he said that it wasn't that. It might have been 15
minutes in length. Any of you kid show experts have any ideas. If not,
I'll try to get more details this week sometime.
Deric
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 02:07:40 -0400
From: Michael Shoshani <mshoshani@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: [removed] something else I have been
Bob Watson wrote:
On an entirely different level, I was wondering how many complete evenings of
entertainment from OTR's history are out there.
<snip>
I don't mean just one network, but
various networks. Meaning, if I could reconstruct May 22, 1946, at 7:00, I
would listen to a program from NBC Blue; at 7:30, one from CBS; at 8,
something from Mutual.
May 22, 1946 actually was not a good day for NBC Blue programming, the
network having ceased to exist under that name some two and a half
years prior to that date. :)
Michael Shoshani
Chicago
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:23:54 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: It just hit [removed]
I have occasion to watch Saturday Night Live
infrequently and realized Don Pardo has been an
announcer on NBC for quite some time. He is a real
holdover. Some of his earliest experience was as an
announcer for Eddie Cantor and he's been with NBC for
60 years, now strictly as an announcer for SNL. He
was born in 1918, which makes him 86 years old. Along
the way, he was the annoncer on the original Jeopardy
with Art Fleming as well as the first go-round of The
Price is Right in 1956 with seemingly the only (or
main) quiz host, Bill Cullen. He's well-known for the
quiz show catchphrase "tell her what she's won"made
popular by him. He'd be a good choice
(if he'd ever attend) the FOTR conventions, or just
one. Andy Blatt
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:24:37 -0400
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gildy the Ice Cream Man
Funny how some memories hang on, even though they were
primarily insignificant.
>From my adolescence or young adult years there is a
memory that persists. And that is my first hearing of
Gildy's trademark laugh. It wasn't on OTR, however.
It was on that successor medium, TV, and even then,
not on a regularly aired show, but rather a one minute
commercial. If I remember correctly, "Gildy" was
advertising a brand of Ice Cream (I think
Baskin-Robbins(r)), as an Ice Cream Vendor. What
sticks in my mind is the comment my mother made when
she first saw it. We were sitting in our living room
when the commercial came on, my mom reading a book as
usual, but when "Gildy" laughed his trademark
rolling-downward laugh, my mom looked up, and with a
wistful tone in her voice, and a look of fond memories
on her face, simply said, "The Great Gildersleeve!"
I suppose the memory sticks because I eventually would
see that commercial many times, but also because my
mom's words sounded so strange to a young person
unfamiliar with the glory days of OTR. I probably
said, "What?" but don't remember if I did or not. Mom
may have explained who Gildy was, but I don't remember
that either. But I do remember the change that came
over her as forgotten memories came flooding back, and
the words she spoke: "The Great Gildersleeve".
Now, after so long of an introduction, my question is:
Does anyone else remember this commercial, and was
this Hal Peary or Willard Waterman? Both, I
understand sounded very much alike.
--Dave Phaneuf
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:36:58 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Misadventures in Cassettes with Sherlock
Holmes
Many Years ago when My Late father (1939-2002) started collecting OTR in the
late 1970s, one of the casettes he purchased was series of casettes called
RADIO RERUNS which I believe was associated with the now defunct ADVENTURES
IN CASETTES (Remember those? Where you had to flip the tape over half way
through a single story as they only had one show per cassette). One of the
Radio Reruns I remember listening to over and over again growing up was the
show Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (1955 Sir John Geilgud and Sir Ralph
Richardson Series) called "The Blackmailer". This series ran for about 16
shows on BBC and I believe Orson Welles turned up once as the arch nemesis
Professor Moriaty ("The Napoleon of Crime"). I recently listened to this
series on collection of Holmes in Mp3 and found that the B;ackmailer show
from Radio Reruns was missing (or Edited out) a few minutes. What it amounts
to is a few minutes of dialogue edited out - the brief dialogue of Holmes
and Waton first meeting in which Holmes says to Watson :"From Afganistan I
perceive?" Prior to that the Radio Reruns episode leaves out Holmes brief
discussion of his experiments with regard to Hemoglobin. Later in the
episode Holmes and Watson conversation regarding Turkish Baths is also left
out of the Radio Reruns version. The funny things is all this time I never
realized I was missing anything. Does anyone have an explantion? I know
there is other shows in the 1955 Series that have small differences in them
from the way "I heard them on RADIO RERUNS".
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Ok
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:37:56 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Temple of the Vampires
Regarding the news that there is possibly new ILAM [removed]
The "Temple of Vampries" serial exists partially, about half of the chapters
are known to exist. In 1989, Jim Harmon with the assistance of a West Coast
disk jockey re-enacted the remaining chapters, the ones that were missing,
to help fill in the blanks. What Scott Eberbach was referring to in a
previous posting about "someone's recreation," is possible, since those
re-enacted segments have been floating about in circulation in collectors'
hands for years. If the are indeed recordings of the "lost" episodes, I
would strongly recommend supporting Ted and his endeavors to make them
available by purchasing a complete set of the serial when he confirms and
releases the serial. Reason being, "Temple of Vampires" is probably one of
the top five serials ever done on I LOVE A MYSTERY and holds true to the
claim that ILAM was one of the best radio programs ever broadcast (not to
mention that "Temple of Vampires" is also one of the scariest radio
broadcasts produced). Like the previous Fu Manchu recordings that Ted
discovered and released, days after he releases the ILAM serial, there will
be copies available for free downloads on the web and Ted will never recoop
the money he paid for the missing chapters of ILAM.
[removed]
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 10:39:06 -0400
From: <bruceglazer@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Subject: About preserving cds
Regarding the best method to label CD's & DVD's,
there are many opinions and concerns, including the
the potential "leak-through" of glue (from labels)
and ink.
I recently purchased a "CD-R Pen". They are
relatively inexpensive and are intended to be
safe to use. I also store my CD's and DVD's
vertically because that is supposed to be the
preferred method.
Bruce R. Glazer
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