Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #231
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/18/2001 9:44 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 231
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Re: Naming SHADOW villians           [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
 George Wright, Organist              ["Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];  ]
 There's laughter In The Air          [Paulurbahn@[removed]                 ]
 Organists                            ["Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed]]
 Re: Early Remote Recordings          [Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]]
 Hal Stone and a drink                ["Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed]]
 The Shadow Audience & Margot Lane    ["Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed]]
 Re: Museum of Broadcasting           ["Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];   ]
 Vince Long's Shadow episode          ["Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@earthl]
 Re: Dennis Day & Dinah Shore         ["J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed]]
 Just-Postwar Radio Premiums          ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Role Competition/Acquaintanceship    [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 Re: Oldest Remotes                   [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 The greatest Radio Super Hero        [AandG4jc@[removed]                    ]
 Art Linkletter Programs              [HERITAGE4@[removed]                  ]
 #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed]                  ]
 No money changed hands               [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
 Sardi's and the Brown Derby          ["Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed]]
 OTR and movie connection             ["greg przywara" <orsonwelles3@home.]

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:55:40 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Naming SHADOW villians

In a message dated 7/17/01 4:02:12 PM, Harold Zeigler writes:

Hi,everyone,
   On the "Shadow" show "Death From The Deep" there must have been a inside
joke going on as engineer "Joseph Hart" played by my favorite villian, arthur
venton and the sub capt. played by Paul Stewart, who was named "Barry
VENTON".which I thought was funny.

***Actually, the actor's name is Arthur VINTON and Paul Stewart plays the
villainous Barry VINTON, not Venton.  The surnames of the cast members show
up a lot during the 1937-38 SHADOW seasons.  If you listen to the 30
surviving Orson Welles SHADOWs, you'll find a number of characters named
Stevenson, Roberts, Sloane, Collins, Stewart, Vinton, etc.  During Bill
Johnstone's tenure, villains appeared with the names Wilson Tuttle and Nathan
Tufts while those men were directing the series.  Sometimes it was an inside
joke like a mention of a political broker, "Boss Houseman," a reference to
Mercury Theatre-producer John Houseman.  However, cast members like Margot
Stevenson and Ken Robert told me long ago that the real reason was to prevent
possible lawsuits and legal complaints.  If someone named Vinton took offense
at the use of the name and claimed to have been defamed, the producers could
point out that they'd lifted the name from a member of the cast or crew (who
could be depended upon to sign a legal release).  --ANTHONY TOLLIN

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:44:46 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  George Wright, Organist

George Wright was well known across the country as evidenced by the
appearance of obituaries in many major newspapers including "The New York
Times". These are excerpts from his obituaries.

George Wright, one of the last of the great theater organists of the Golden
Age of movies, died of heart failure May 10  near his home in the Hollywood
hills. He was 77.

Best known for his virtuoso performances on the huge Wurlitzer theater pipe
organs at the famed Fox Theater on Market Street in San Francisco and the
ornate Parnmount Theaters in both New York and Oakland, Mr. Wright was in
constant demand during the 1940s,'50s and early'60s, playing at concerts and
recitals around the world.

He also recorded more than 60 albums, some of which sold more than a million
copies between the early 1950s and 1960s.

 In 1941 he joined radio station KFRC and landed a Job at the Fox Theater,
where he played to sold-out audiences during the early 1940s. Mr. Wright
later moved to New York, where he was hired as the house organist at the
Paramount Theater. There, he played with many of the great Jazz and pop
artists of the time, including Frank Sinatra, Frankie Laine and Ella
Fitzgerald.

After he returned to California, he went to work for ABC radio and
television where he was musical director and live studio organist for the
long-running TV serial, General Hospital. During these years, he also played
countless concerts and continued an active recording career.

In 1995, he won the first lifetime achievement award from The American
Theatre Organ Society. He recorded his final album last March.

Mr. Wright owned a Mighty Wurlitzer theater pipe organ which was installed
in his home in the Hollywood hills and played until just a few days before
he died. He finished his last album -- Salon" -- just 60 days before his
desth. He is survived by his son, Tom, of Hollywood.

A personal note:  George was a good friend of my late husband Howard Culver.
The instituted a "poetry and music" show on KFRC, San Francisco.  The show
continued in Los Angeles with Bob Mitchell at the organ in the late 40's.
We never missed a concert at the San Gabriel Civic Auditorium, where George
continued to pack the house. Oh yes, if you ever yelled "CHARGE!" after the
6 organ notes, at the Dodgers baseball games in Los [removed] was
George playing those 6 notes.

Lois Culver
KWLK Radio (Mutual) Longview, WA 1941-44
KFI Radio (NBC) Los Angeles CA 1945-47, 50-53
Widow of Howard Culver, actor

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:44:44 -0400
From: Paulurbahn@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  There's laughter In The Air

Does anyone have this book or radio comedy scripts?
Please email me offline.
Thanks,
Paul Urbahns
paulurbahn@[removed]

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:44:42 -0400
From: "Robert Paine" <macandrew@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Organists

Bill Murtough's mentions of organists and Hartford sparks the names of Hal
Kolb and Walter Dawley. Kolb worked at NBC Red affiliate WTIC, starting in
the 30's and was said to be the first in New England to play organ, piano
and celeste in the same program.

Walter Dawley played organ on some of the early Hartford Times Carol Sings,
which originated from The Times portico on Prospect Street and broadcast by
WTIC, later by The Times' WTHT. After WTHT left the air and The Times
folded, the tradition was carried on with Carol Sings from the Old State
House.

Hal Kolb played for an interdenominational religious program on WTIC. One
Sunday afternoon the minister was in the midst of his sermon when staff
announcer Fred Wade was handed a news item. He showed Kolb, who hoped the
minister would wrap up and the station switch to the network before the next
hymn. The minister was given a cue, which he understood and thus cut short
the sermon. WTIC went to the network for the report of the attack on Pearl
Harbor and Hal Kolb did not have to play the scheduled hymn - Joy to the
World.

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:44:40 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Early Remote Recordings

Bryan Johnson wonders,

Someone recently posted to one of the newgroups an NBC remote of Lindberg's
return to America after his historic solo flight across the Atlantic. Where
does this rank in the pantheon of surviving remotes? For 1927 I was pretty
impressed by the quality of the audio.

This isn't the oldest surviving remote broadcast -- in fact *most*
surviving pre-1927 broadcast recordings are of broadcasts originating
outside the studio. For a listing, see my article "Documenting Early
Radio" at [removed]~[removed].

The Lindbergh recordings are of excellent quality -- because they were
recorded by the Victor Talking Machine Company directly off the NBC line
on a total of 21 twelve-inch 78rpm matrices. The recordings do not
represent the complete NBC coverage for that day -- they are only
excerpts, totalling a bit over ninety minutes.

These master recordings were edited down for a series of
commercially-released Victor records, which included highlights from
Lindbergh's arrival, Coolidge's speech, and highlights from the press
club dinner. These discs are not particularly rare, and rotten-sounding
crude tape dubs have been circulating for years. But a complete transfer
of the original 21 matrices is available via the National Archives, which
holds modern vinyl test pressings of the entire set -- and this is
probably the source recording for the MP3 version now circulating.

One noteworthy fact about the Lindbergh broadcasts is that they include
the only surviving recordings of John B. Daniel, who was one of the major
rising stars of the NBC announcing staff in the late twenties and who was
particularly well-known for his announcing of the Chicago Civic Opera
Company broadcasts, and as the "personal announcer" for President
Coolidge from 1926 thru 1928. Daniel would undoubtedly have gone on to
great things -- but he collapsed while working a night shift at NBC-New
York on the evening of August 17, 1929, and died early on the morning of
August 19th of peritonitis, the result of infection from a ruptured
appendix. Daniel, who was only twenty-nine years old, was to have been
married on August 20th. The combined New York announcing staffs of NBC
and CBS served as the pallbearers for his funeral.

Elizabeth

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:56:20 -0400
From: "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hal Stone and a drink

  We have invited Hal to the Cincinnati Convention
and if he comes I'm sure Ted Davenport will buy him
and Hastings a drink.
  It would be a good chance for any of you who have
been chatting with him on the Digest to meet him.
Bob Burchett

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:09 -0400
From: "Karl Schadow" <bluecar91@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Shadow Audience & Margot Lane

In Issue 221, Al inquired about two interesting aspects of The Shadow:
1)performance before a studio audience, and 2) the "status" of Margot Lane
in the introduction of each episode.

Although Margot appeared in each of the 26 episodes of the 1937-38 'blue
coal' ([removed] & W. Coal Co.) season, she was not included in the opening
introduction. It was not until the first episode (The Hypnotized Audience)
of the Summer 1938 series (sponsored by [removed] Goodrich Co.) that she was
introduced as "...constant friend and aide, Margot [removed]" This same
introduction continued throughout this series and into the 1938-39 'blue
coal' season ending with the episode on October 23, 1938 (Gun Island).
Beginning with the following week's episode (Isle of Fear) Margot became
"...friend and companion, the lovely Margot [removed]" This continued through
June 4, 1950 when the [removed] & W. Coal Co. ended it's two decade relationship
with The Shadow. From June 11, 1950 through December 26, 1954 (The Shadow's
last episode) Margot was simply "...Cranston's friend, Margot [removed]" I
don't have an answer as to why the changes occurred of over the years, but
maybe The Martians had something to do with it.

Beginning with the 1938-39 season, The Shadow was performed before a live
studio audience at the Mutual Playhouse on 42nd Street in New York. One
could obtain complimentary tickets by clipping the coupon in The Shadow
Magazine and sending it to the Street & Smith offices in New York. I am very
fortunate to have in my collection, tickets from two additional theaters
that hosted The Shadow. The first (Feb. 6, 1944)lists WOR Mutual Theatre,
52nd Street, West of Broadway, and the second (Oct. 3, 1948) the Mutual
Longacre Theatre, 220 W. 48th [removed] of Broadway. Theatre doors closed ten
minutes prior to air time to allow the staff to instruct the audience on
proper conduct. Audience laughter may be heard on at least two episodes (The
Plot That Failed-March 24, 1940, and The Cat and The Killer-January 12,
1947).

I could not detect the presence of an audience until the 1939-40 season.
However, there is "canned" audience applause that is added to some episodes
of the Summer 1939 Goodrich series. These episodes were originally aired as
the 1938-39 season with the substitution of Goodrich Tire commercials for
those of 'blue coal.' Fans of The Shadow last attended a broadcast on June
4, 1950. Is that a familiar date? The Shadow was transcribed during it's
last four-plus years. Perhaps Street & Smith (copyright owner), the network
(Mutual), the sponsor (Grove Labs) or the advertising agency prompted this
change.

Karl Schadow

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:11 -0400
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Museum of Broadcasting

Bob Keldgord writes:
Some 8 or 9 yrs ago, while on a business trip to NYC, I spent one morning
at the Museum of [removed]  Now it's my understanding that there's a
branch f this Museum somewhere in the Los Angeles area.

Does anyone have an exact address, and is it comparable to the museum in
NYC?

First, since your visit, it's been renamed the Museum of TV and Radio.
Second, you can "visit" online at [removed] (although the catalog isn't
online), and get the exact hours, addresses, events, etc., for both
locations.

Michael J. Hayde

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:06 -0400
From: "Harry Machin, Jr." <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Vince Long's Shadow episode

How can I obtain the Vince Long production of
a Shadow episode discussed in this digest?  Can
someone help me with this?  No website was
mentioned, although a download of the show was.

Harry Machin, Jr.

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:15 -0400
From: "J. Pope" <jpope101@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Dennis Day & Dinah Shore

But, when he's singing, I find myself wishing that the time consumed
doing so was instead more comedy.

    I agree with you there; Dennis Day's musical numbers are the only
thing I dislike about 'The Jack Benny Show.'  I love the music of that
era, but his voice and style don't appeal to me.  I guess nothing's
perfect!

Jennifer

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:17 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Just-Postwar Radio Premiums

Charlie Northway mentioned another World War II premium, a cardboard
periscope called the "Terryscope."

World War II came to a sudden end, as neither the general public nor the
rank-and-file servicemen had any idea of the development of nuclear
weapons.  There were expectations that the war might carry on into 1947,
with an actual invasion of the home islands of Japan to settle the
matter.  For this reason, plus that there was a lead required in the
design and manufacture of premiums, a number of just-postwar radio
premiums were mostly paper and/or cardboard.

One of the most interesting postwar paper premiums was one offered by
Superman, a pair of "Walky Talkys" [their spelling].  During the war,
there were plenty of movies and still photos of GIs using these devices,
so a kid having one of his or her own seemed like a Neat Thing.  However,
as a premium, particularly as a paper premium in the pre-solid-state
days, it was actually a fancied-up string telephone.  Like the real
walkie-talkie, though, it had both "earpiece" and "microphone."  However,
both "earpiece" and "microphone" were simple paper diaphragms.  Both were
connected to the main string so that all three cords were each 120
degrees apart, making the "earpiece" and "microphone" equally efficient.

Naturally, the Superman Walky Talky could be used in conjunction with
conventional paper-cup string telephones, but by comparison they were
luxurious to use.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:14 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Role Competition/Acquaintanceship

Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]; asks:

Also, I am wondering if Conrad Binyon and Hal(Harland Stone) competed for
roles and if they knew each other in their wonderful radio days.  I have
only recently  heard Conrad Binyon on "Suspense," and  "The Life of
Riley", as well as "Mayor of the Town, of course.  It is obvious that
both actors were in demand during their adolescent years and both had
continuing parts on well-known shows.

As for the top two questions, No, and No.  We lived in different
areas and time zones. Harland in New York and I, in Los Angeles.

And I can't resist asking.  Did either run into Harry Bartell? Did Hal or
Conrad appear with Harry?

During the 40's in California, The Motor Vehicle code allowed the
licensing of drivers at age 16 if they could show a requirement
to drive a vehicle and their parents signed a liability
statement.  I had one of those licenses, and a cut down
1934 three window coupe.  With it I usually drove to work and
home between shows.  Never did I ever run into Harry Bartell.
I never even saw him in the parking lots, just inside the studio
walls and hallways, where we may have said "Hi" a couple of times
on the shows we did appear together on, but nothing much more.
I didn't want to bother him with any of my stupid homework
assignments. Besides he was an older type guy who I figured could
pass the ID check at the CBS Columbia Square's Brittingham's
Restaurant bar.

CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:59:58 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Oldest Remotes

From: "Brian Johnson" <CHYRONOP@[removed];
Someone recently posted to one of the newgroups an NBC remote
of Lindberg's return to America after his historic solo flight
across the Atlantic. Where does this rank in the pantheon of
surviving remotes?

Not even close to being the earliest surviving remote.  In fact, MOST of
the earliest known legitimate recordings are remote broadcasts!  First
there is the speech by former President Woodrow Wilson which was aired
from his Washington, [removed] bedroom on November 10, 1923.  Then there are
excerpts from more than a dozen New York Philharmonic-Symphony Orchestra
concerts from Carnegie Hall from WEAF in 1923 and 24.  A couple of them
were issued on the large historical CD set the NY Philharmonic issued
two years ago.  The earliest one I have is from December 13, 1923 from
the original discs.

On Sept 12, 1924 the Defense Test Day broadcast on the AT&T network
included a series of reports from military bases all over the country.
Coolidge's innauguration from 1925 exists.  The March 14, 1925 and
January 1, 1926 recording of a trans-Atlantic broadcast from 2LO London
via 5XX Daventry over WJZ included dance music from Ciro's Club and the
Westminster Chimes from the House of Parliment.  The rest of the 1/1/26
broadcast included segments from Washington, [removed], Schenectady, and NYC,
but these were probably all from the studios of the stations on the
network so were not really remotes.

There also are some recordings of several 1925 and 1926 broadcasts of
The Associated Glee Clubs from the Metropolitan Opera House from WEAF.
Some of these AGC masters were released on Columbia and Victor.
Unreleased sides exist in the Library of Congress.  Compo of Canada
released on Apex Raditone two hymns from an Aug 9, 1925 church service
broadcast from the American Presbyterian Church in Montreal, and a
speech by William Lyons Mackenzie King broadcast on Oct. 19, 1925 from
the Montreal Forum.  This one is particularly interesting becuase some
prankster turned all the lights out in the middle of the speech, and
Mackenzie King is heard trying to silence the crowd by saying "You will
find you will be able to hear just as well in the dark!"

For 1927 I was pretty impressed by the quality of the audio.  Brj

It was professionally recorded by Victor records, and eight sides were
issued.  There are three 12-inch discs with Lindbergh and Coolidge
speeches directly from the original masters, and a 10-inch compilation
of commentary which were dubbed and edited from the original masters.
There is a slight loss in sound quality on the two dubbed sides compared
with the orignal masters.  There were about 20 sides recorded, so there
is over an hour of unreleased material which still exists.  Columbia
records was also recording the broadcast and two sides survive in the
Library of Congress.  I remember the sound quality being superior to the
Victor recording, but I realize now that I did not have the original
Victor masters to compare with at the time.  I only had the two dubbed
sides back then.  There also are two sides at LC from Columbia's
recording of the New York City parade a day or two later.

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:31:09 -0400
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The greatest Radio Super Hero

    Hello everyone? By reading these articles, from time to time, that every
one has an opion on what was thier favorite subject. And I would like to get
some feed back from people on, "Who do you think was the greatest Super
Hero?" I know that a lot of people think that The Shadow is the ultimate
radio hero. But there are a lot of others who may think different. Even if
you think that The Shadow is the one, who comes in second? I my self love The
Green Hornet. By the way there is a new Green Hornet web page being built.
The adress is [removed]. It might be worth checking out. When it
is done.
Allen Wilcox

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:08:00 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Art Linkletter Programs

Michael Biel is accurate in his answer to the questions about Art Linkletter
on radio and TV.  For those further interested, see the
A&E "Biography" broadcast last summer about Art.  I believe it is available
in the A&E sale collection at Barnes & Noble.
My small OTR company contributed portions of an original print of
"Life With Linkletter" as well as clips of "People Are Funny" and
"House Party" and Art's famous recorded "letter" to his daughter.
Tom Heathwood - Heritage Radio Classics - Boston

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 04:52:00 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over four years, same time, same channel!

Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
"Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

and Me

Lois Culver
KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
and widow of actor Howard Culver

(For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:02:41 -0400
To: <[removed]@[removed];
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
Subject:  No money changed hands

 "Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed]; said;

Hello all, but especially Hal Stone.

Hi Back, tony.

Tony went on to say all sorts of flattering things about my acting ability,
and modesty prevents me from repeating them in my reply. :)

[removed] just a few excerpts.

Archie is a fine show once you get used to it's style.
I thought Bob and Hal were excellent actors,

I really prefered Aldrich instead <Snip> My opinion has changed, and I now
see
the error of my ways.

Both Hal and Bob are excellent, and I would like to see Bob Hastings himself
on this digest.

(I've tried getting him to sign on, but he's too busy counting his money).

No, Hal did not pay me to write this.

(True. But maybe Hastings did)!

While I liked the writing of the Swift series better for some reason, (odd
considering the sustaining shows had the same writer) I liked Ian Martin
better as Mr. Andrews in 1946-47.

Yup, Ian was good, as was the original "Father", Vinton Hayworth. But then
too, so was Arthur Kohl who played the part the longest. (You notice I did
not mention Arthur Q. Bryan (Spelled "Bryan", Charlie!)

By the 1950's, it felt like the show was going down in quality and did not
have much life left.

Do you suppose that it coincided with my leaving the show to go "Overseas"
for over a year when the Air Force decided they needed me to save the world
from the North Korean's. :)

I have a question for Hal or anyone else.  Did either Hal or Bob have any
regular parts on radio besides Archie?  In other words, were either of
them regulars on any other shows?

I can't speak for Bob,  as to any other "Regular" running parts. As for me,
No! But we both did many other shows out of NY on an "occasional" basis, if
we could fit them in with our schedules, and if we "were in the running" for
parts in our particular age range. Besides, I think I got "Type Cast" as a
squeaky voiced character.

Thanks for any answers.

Your Welcome, I'm sure!

Also, to Hal Stone personally, while this might seem strange to you since
you got paid for your performances and that was it, thanks for being a
good actor.

Honest folks, I am not related to this guy Tony, and did not have to pay him
for his comments. But I wouldn't put it past that Hastings guy. :)

Tony. You sure get my "Fan of the Week" award.

Hal(Harlan)Stone
"Jughead"
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:14:41 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sardi's and the Brown Derby

From: "Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed];
I noticed that they did not "get" some of the original jokes. ...
Rochester said that Jack looked like the master of ceremonies at
Forest Lawn.  Kids here in Billings, Montana didn't have a clue.

Well, yes.  The sophisticated, bi-coastal comedy routines so beloved by
writers of these shows wore terribly thin even to those of us who heard the
shows originally.  I suspect that after a while, jokes about Pasadena or New
Jersey or the Copa were what people came to expect, and everyone laughed at
the appropriate moments, so it continued.  Never did much for me, and I
tended to avoid Jack Benny's TV show for that reason.  The genre lasted
right up to the 1960's, when Bill Cosby released his first stand-up comedy
album.

M Kinsler

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:38:18 -0400
From: "greg przywara" <orsonwelles3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR and movie connection

The recent postings about "Calling all Cars" reminded me that I recently saw
the movie "In Old Chicago"(1938) starring Tyrone Power for the first time
and being a CAC fan was pleasantly surprised to hear the theme song from
that program as the theme song for this movie!

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