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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 336
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Re: sound efects sources [ StevenL751@[removed] ]
Sound Effects [ "Tom van der Voort" <evan@[removed] ]
Fulton Lewis Jr. [ Howard Blue <khovard@[removed]; ]
Radio "sound" quality [ mart459@[removed] ]
Help with Tandberg R-R tape recorder [ Alfred Copeland <copeland@[removed] ]
Off We Go ... [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Bergen Without McCarthy [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Re: Fulton Lewis Jr. [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
Looking for Reel to Reel Deck [ Chad Palmer <palmerch@[removed] ]
Norman Jolley [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Dramatic Bergen [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
RCA's Nipper [ Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@telu ]
Re: Nipper [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
Fulton Lewis, Jr. [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
Nipper [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed] ]
A complete collection for sale [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
RCAs Nipper [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
Nipper=fox terrier [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
high speed pops [ vigor16@[removed] ]
Glenn Miller's Last Flight [ "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed] ]
Glenn Miller Broadcast 2 [ "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed] ]
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:39:16 -0400
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: sound efects sources
In a message dated 8/25/2002 10:23:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
But, I had a chance to meet a sound man from WOR, Beck, but can't remember
his first name, accept, it wasn't Jackson. (g>)
That would be Barney Beck, a very good friend of the Gotham Players in our
early days. Among his many claims to fame, Barney was sound man for Bob &
Ray.
Steve Lewis
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:39:46 -0400
From: "Tom van der Voort" <evan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sound Effects
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The recent postings about radio sound effects reminded me of a Japanese
film I saw in March of 2000 at the Hirshorn Museum in Washington, [removed] It is
a madcap comedy (subtitled, of course) about the production of an
award-winning radio script written by a housewife (think 'Dr. Christian').
The leading lady is a prima donna who insists on moving the action from a
Japanese fishing village to Chicago. She decides the plot should involve a
handsome pilot whose plane crashes, which causes great consternation since the
sponsor is an airline. I particularly remember a scene involving sound
effects. None of the current production staff know how to produce the
necessary sounds so they send for a senior citizen running the basement
parking garage, who used to be a sound effects man.
I don't suppose this film is available, but if it were, it would make an
interesting attraction at a convention such as FOTR. The English title is
"Welcome Back, Mr. McDonald" and it was directed by Koki Mitani in 1997.
Tom van der Voort
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:41:41 -0400
From: Howard Blue <khovard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fulton Lewis Jr.
Timothy Clough writes
Who was/is Fulton Lewis [removed] . . . he sounds like he was a
conservative talk show host . . .
If so, in what ways was he similar to, and in what different from,
modern day, conservative talk show hosts?
As I discuss in my new book, "Words at War: World War II Era Radio Drama
and the Postwar Broadcasting Industry Blacklist" Lewis was an anti labor,
conservative political commentator whose criticisms of labor were at
least partly motivated by self-interest. In May 1941, the National
Association of Manufacturers hired him to present a series of
testimonials concerning big business and its effort to help national
defense. So when he got on the air and attacked unions, he was doing so
at least partly out of self-interest to please NAM.
For further information about Lewis, see my book which is described more
fully on my web site: [removed] The book will be out in late
October.
Here is a recent review comment about my "Words at War"
". . . there have been many books written about radio, and many more
written about World War II, very few have taken even a cursory
examination of the relation-
ship between the two . . . A fascinating story told in a compelling
fashion."
Ken Mueller, Radio Curator, The Museum of Television & Radio
Howard Blue
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:42:14 -0400
From: mart459@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio "sound" quality
I just enjoyed a rant by one of the local Milwaukee announcers on the poor
quality of broadcasts these days. His complaint was that back in the days when
the studios and broadcast facilities were "hard wired" into baseball stadiums,
the quality of the broadcasts was so much better. That the current reliance on
cell phones, and other "mobile" quality remotes brought down the quality of
the braodcast. His comment on a game that was being transmitted was "not even
up to the standards of the 1940's".
Something that I have to agree with for the most [removed] at least in my
market :)
Jon M.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:42:50 -0400
From: Alfred Copeland <copeland@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Help with Tandberg R-R tape recorder
Hello, All;
Desperately seeking a replacement main (and only) drive belt for my
Tandberg reel-to-reel tape machine. Internet search engines have been
little help. Anyone knowing of a likely source is more than welcome to
drop me a note, on or off the list.
Most Sincerely;
Al Copeland
copeland@[removed]
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:43:41 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Off We Go ...
Henry Brugsch, speaking of recorded sound effects, noted,
It's almost typical often I airport scene where someone is about to
board a plane that's waiting the start. Well, I got an id on this thing,
it was a Douglas DC-2.
Both the DC-2 and some of the DC-3s utilized the Wright SGR-1820 radial
engine. I once was a passenger on a DC-2, a nice little airplane, and
the engine noise I couldn't differentiate from the DC-3s I've ridden in.
(Some DC-3s used Pratt & Whitney Wasp engines.) Most aircraft of the OTR
period used radial engines, which sound a bit different from other piston
engines (my Cherokee PA-151 had a horizontally-opposed 4 cylinder
Lycoming engine that didn't sound like a radial).
[Straying from OTR for just a moment, I saw a TV drama where the sound
effect for a light piston-engine airplane starting was a turbine engine
spoolup. I nearly choked laughing my head off.]
My guess is, a lot of these sounds came from optical transcriptions of
sequences recorded on film, since this medium was still the best sound in
the '30s, and '40s
The problem with optical transcriptions was a "thermal hiss" that made it
possible to identify movie sounds just by listening to them. Of course,
some of this could be eliminated through bandpass filtering, but disk
recordings of the period weren't that bad.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:43:55 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bergen Without McCarthy
Back in the late 1940s or early 1950s, there was a minor disaster film (a
ship sinking) where Bergen played the part of a Scandinavian husband who,
seeing that he and his wife might perish closely, confessed to his wife
that he'd once attended a burlesque show and saw a "wiggle girl." The
title of this film (a black & white film) eludes me completely. At the
close, where the Bergen character debarked from the ship, promised his
wife, "No more wiggle girls." i can remember almost nothing else about
the movie, but I remember Bergen.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:44:08 -0400
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fulton Lewis Jr.
Hi Tim,
Others will answer in more detail, but back in the OTR days, there were
no "talk shows" of the type you are thinking of, but there were what
might be called "news commentator" programs. These programs were for the
most part sponsored , usually 15 mins duration and usually daily but
sometimes weekly. Some of these commentators were conservative while
others could be classified as liberal. In those days as in the talk show
era today, people listened for the perspective that these particular
persons offered. Some of these commentators had many years of very
serious and professional journalistic experience behind them. Others
didn't, but if they had a good voice and could draw an audience for their
sponsor, then their experience did not matter much
Even though these programs were only 15 mins in length, their influence
upon the American radio audience sometimes equalled that of today's talk
show hosts. And to answer your specific question, yes, Fulton Lewis Jr
was politically conservative.
Eric Cooper
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 14:11:33 -0400
From: Chad Palmer <palmerch@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Looking for Reel to Reel Deck
Hi All,
I'm looking for a good 1/4" reel to reel tape recorder, preferably a
portable model if anyone out there has one they'd like to get rid
of. Please e-mail me with specs, asking price, etc. It doesn't have to
have a bunch of bells & whistles, as long as it can record & play back I'd
be happy.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:31:35 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Norman Jolley
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:59:33 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
Not mentioned is the fact that he had a regular role (Dr. Malingro) on the
SPACE PATROL radio series.
Norman Jolley was the head writer of Space Patrol and had a number of
rolls on both the radio and TV versions, including Agent X and the
Secretary General of the United Planets. But according to Nina Bara, who
played Tonga on Space Patrol, Malengro was played by Larry Dobkin.
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:31:51 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dramatic Bergen
Hello All,
The Internet Movie Database ([removed]) lists a bunch of films which
feature Edgar Bergen apparently without Charlie McCarthy or his other
dummies such as dramas CAPTAIN CHINA (1949), in which he played "Mr.
Haasvelt" and MYSTERY LAKE(1953) in which he played "Dr. Sorenson". The most
unusual listing is for a 1967 beach party comedy called DON'T MAKE WAVES in
which his character name is Madame Lavinia! I assume this means he was in
drag. Has anybody ever seen this?
George
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:32:20 -0400
From: Elmer Standish <elmer_standish@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: RCA's Nipper
I see several references to the RCA tademark "Nipper" in
recent postings. Here are a few sites where you can get
pictures of the trademark and some of the small statuettes
that were popular.
Regards to all ===> ELMER
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 17:32:35 -0400
From: Shenbarger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Nipper
In a message dated 8/25/2002 9:23:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
Jer51473@[removed] writes:
What kind of dog is Nipper?
He is an English terrier.
According to "Look for the Dog", by R. W. Baumbach, Eldridge Johnson
acquired the American copyright to the painting when he bought the assets of
the Berliner Gramophone Company about 1900 from Emile Berliner. Mr. Johnson
reorganized the BGC as the Consolidated Talking Machine Co. and then
reorganized that in October, 1901 as the Victor Talking Machine Co.
"From Tinfoil to Stereo" by O. Read & W. L. Welch says the original painting
showed a cylinder talking machine which was overpainted by a gramophone when
the artist was unable to sell it to the cylinder talking machine company
shown in the picture.
There is a good information on Emil Berliner at
[removed]
Don Shenbarger
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:06:15 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fulton Lewis, Jr.
Timothy Clough asked:
I'm currently performing in a local community theater production of "The
Pajama Game." (Opening night was last night (Friday).)
(a delightful musical; I'm glad to hear it's in revival).
In this play, which takes place in the 50's, there's a reference to
listening to Fulton Lewis, Jr. My question: Who was/is Fulton Lewis,
[removed] Judging from the play, he sounds like he was a conservative talk
show host (or something like that). If so, in what ways was he similar
to, and in what different from, modern day, conservative talk show
hosts? I would prefer answers to be as objective as possible, just so we
don't get into another fiasco.
Objective or fair? Well, to add some more depth to "The Pajama
Game"...
Fulton Lewis, Jr. was a leading conservative commentator during the
Roosevelt and Truman years -- not a comfortable position to be in at
that time, but one that he assumed with a calm style and general
respect. Lewis was a native of Washington, DC, a newspaper man and
columnist who sort of stumbled into radio in the mid 30s and then
broadcast for many years on Mutual.
There's no comparison to "modern day conservative talk show hosts".
Lewis was above all a first-rate reporter, winner of the first Alfred I.
duPont Award and an important figure in the development of broadcast
news. He worked to bring broadcast correspondents on a par with print
journalists in Washington and was the founder and first president of the
House of Representatives Radio Gallery.
His views would always be provocative -- among other things, he was
a supporter of the red-baiting activities of Senator Joe McCarthy -- and
he continued to hold forth into the 1960s. He died in 1966.
"And that's the top of the news as it looks from here."
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:05:33 -0400
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Nipper
Jer51473@[removed] wonders:
What kind of dog is Nipper?
IIRC, partly bull terrier with a trace of fox terrier. The
painting was completed three years after Nipper died.
Bill H.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:07:01 -0400
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A complete collection for sale
A large collection is being offered for sale, and some OTR fan could
instantly be enjoying thousands of programs. My friend Bob Mess still
loves old-time radio, but the tapes have become a white elephant. Bob
is a member of the Old-Time Radio Collectors and Traders Society
(ORCATS) - the ham operators who meet on 7238 kHz every Sunday at 8:00
AM Eastern Time. His tapes come from many sources.
The collection is largely reel-to-reel, and there are about 1,000 reels
mostly 1800’. The tapes are thoroughly catalogued in an .xls file. Bob
would like to sell the entire collection for $100. There is one hitch,
however: Bob is not prepared to ship them, so the sale must be on a
cash-and-carry basis. He lives in Binghamton, NY.
Anyone interested or needing more information can contact me off-list,
or contact Bob directly at Rmess@[removed]. Be sure to put the
words "OTR Tapes" in the subject line.
--Bill Jaker
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:05:16 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RCAs Nipper
Hello Everyone!!
A few digests ago someone asked, What kind of dog
was Nipper? Nipper was a Jack Russell Terrier.
With regards to todays Nipper and son, The sons
name is Chipper. Too cute for Words.
Lynn-I collect old radios too!!!
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:07:22 -0400
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Nipper=fox terrier
Nipper=fox terrier
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:33:51 -0400
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: high speed pops
Hey friends,
I know this is a little off topic, but I need help or some expert
opinions. There are no greater experts than those who know their stuff
and you guys really do that well. I have a high speed cassette
duplicator that I purchased a few months ago. Last week, I was running a
tape off for a dear friend and heard some small click or pop on the copy.
Does anyone know what that is? It is quite annoying. I got some OTR
shows years ago from a small vendor and thought they were originally on
the taped show. It sounds like a little electronic glitch. I really
don't want to give a tape of that to my friend. Is there a way to find
out what causes the noise and can it be eliminated. You can either
contact me on or off list. I'm sure others have heard these noises and a
good audio education can benafit all of us. Thank you for the space,
Charlie and all.
Deric M.
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:28:00 -0400
From: "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Glenn Miller's Last Flight
Just in case one of the Big Band Group miss it, KGFE (PBS) will be
broadcasting Glenn Miller's Last Flight. This is the disappearance of the
bandleader's plane on which he and members of his band were traveling to
Paris to entertain the troops during WWII. The time for the broadcast will
be 7pm Central
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:28:10 -0400
From: "George Coppen*" <gacoppen@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Glenn Miller Broadcast 2
Dont get old, I forgot to say the broadcast will be on Wednesday night.
Sorry about that, enjoy.
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