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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 109
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
on stage [ "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; ]
4-6 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
FBI on the [removed] [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
marijuana [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
Decoder Rings [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
Re: Mayers' Castile Soap Recipe [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
Who Owns the Lone Ranger? [ seandd@[removed] ]
Wow, what a response! [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
Reels at Cincinnati [ "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@hotmai ]
RE "I SWAN [ "ME!" <voxpop@[removed]; ]
Re: Jack Benny/Whistler [ Illoman <illoman@[removed]; ]
Swan Soap [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
Harry Bartell's Other Talent [ OTRadiofan@[removed] (OldTimeRadio ]
Do you hear what I hear? [ Wich2@[removed] ]
One More "Colored Oleo" Story [ "Bill and Reva Muhr" <brmuhr@robson ]
Sears Radio theater [ "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed] ]
[removed] [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
Re: Fwd: The Campbell Playhouse [ "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed]; ]
Trucks [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
more Harry Bartell on TV [ "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@sbcglob ]
South Florida Residence [ JJiovanazz@[removed] ]
OTR and Vocabularies [ "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@earthlin ]
harry bartell [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:36:30 -0400
From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: on stage
Re comment by Irene Heinstein about stage shows where actors read aloud, I
was more than happy some years ago to attend the theatrical version of 84
CHARING CROSS ROAD, in which the two leads sit on opposite sides of the
stage reading the letters that make up the narrative.
Especially since the male lead was Leonard Teale, a famous Australian actor
who started in Old Time Radio -- I grew up listening to him play Superman.
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:36:44 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 4-6 births/deaths
I will be out of town this weekend participating in a trivia contest
so I will send a couple of lists a day 'til I send Monday.
April 6th births
04-06-1884 - Walter Huston - Toronto, Canada - d. 4-7-1950
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Cavalcade of America"
04-06-1892 - Lowell Thomas - Woodington, OH - d. 8-29-1981
newscaster, commentator: "Lowell Thomas and the News"; "Man with a
Question"
04-06-1895 - Dudley Nichols - Wapakoneta, OH - d. 1-4-1960
screenwiriter: "Cavalcade of America"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
04-06-1903 - Mickey Cochrane - Bridgewater, MA - d. 6-28-1962
sportscaster: (Member Baseball Hall of Fame) "Mickey Cochrane"
04-06-1924 - Mimi Benzell - Bridgeport, CT - d. 12-23-1970
singer: "Jack Pearl and Mimi Benzell"; "Railroad Hour"
04-06-1927 - Gerry Mulligan - NYC - d. 1-20-1996
jazz saxophonist: "Sound of Jazz"; "White House Jazz Festival"; "Voice
of Vista"
04-06-1929 - Andre Previn - Berlin, Germany
pianist: "Songs by Sinatra"
April 6th deaths
01-02-1920 - Isaac Asimov - Petrovich, Russia - d. 4-6-1992
Author: "I, Robot"; "Nightfall"
01-15-1882 - Henry Burr - St. Stephen, New Brunswick, Canada - d.
4-6-1941
singer: "National Barn Dance"; "Uncle Ezra"
03-31-1908 - Red Norvo - Beardstown, IL - d. 4-6-1999
jazz vibraphonist: "Bughouse Rhythm"; "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Woody
Herman Show"
04-08-1915 - Fred Flowerday - d. 4-6-1986
director: "The Lone Ranger"; "The Green Hornet"; "Challenge of the
Yukon"
06-17-1882 - Igor Stravinsky - Oranienbaum, Russia - d. 4-6-1971
composer: "Columbia Work Shop"; "New York Philharmonic"
09-29-1904 - Greer Garson - County Down, Ireland - d. 4-6-1996
actress: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Everything for the Boys"; "Star and
the Story"
10-08-1881 - Oscar O'Shea - Peterboro, Canada - d. 4-6-1960
actor: John Marshall "Those We Love"
11-21-1912 - Ralph Butler - d. 4-6-1987
director: "Bright Horizon"; "Perry Mason"; "Rosemary"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:53:48 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: FBI on the [removed]
Each week FBI headquarters produces two brief (1 min each) informative
programs in connection with the ABC Radio Network. OTR announcer George
Ansbro was one of the hosts until his retirement. The subject matter
can deal with anything that involves the FBI: Case solutions, Ten Most
Wanted, crime prevention techniques, law enforcement history, etc.
Last week they interviewed me on the subject of FBI drama shows in the
Golden Age of Radio and based on that interview, two of these
one-minute shows resulted. The first one began airing on ABC affiliates
as of April 2nd.
For those of you skilled enough to navigate a web site with audio clips
(which I still can't do) the following has my shows [removed] I
think stay there for about 2 weeks:
[removed]
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
[removed]
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:54:02 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: marijuana
Marijuana was a short story, done as a Molle Mystery Theater. Kurt
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:18:52 -0400
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Decoder Rings
Jim Widner, speaking of the story about the man who bought the house
where "A Christmas Story" was filmed, quotes the press reportage,
Talking about how the new owner is going to restore the house to the
way it looked in the film, the AP writes: "In addition, he plans to open
an onsite gift store selling items linked to the movie, including
Ovaltine, Little Orphan Annie decoder rings and leg [removed]"
and then observed,
I know Steve will want to tell us all about those "decoder rings!"
Being not only an OTR fan, but also into some cryptosystems, I've
followed stories of "decoder rings," making corrections where necessary.
However, I've seen listed on several auctions "decoder rings" that
generally turned out to be badges, etc. I've asked some of the sellers
why they called a badge a ring, and their response has been a variant or
so of, "Well, the letters and numbers are in rings, aren't they?"
I suppose that a circular scale can be considered a "ring," I suppose,
but that's a real stretch.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:19:21 -0400
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Mayers' Castile Soap Recipe
In Digest #108, John Mayer gave an excellent recipe
for Castile Soap, containing (I'm writing from
memory): 5 oz olive oil; 40 oz. lye; 14 oz water.
Tried said recipe. Don't need to bathe no more. Skin
is all gone. Cast-steel was right!
LOL
D Phaneuf
PS - Maybe I had too much Roma Wine when I copied that
recipe? [removed] happy BELATED April Fools!
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:19:44 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who Owns the Lone Ranger?
According to England's Guardian newspaper, it's Classic Media, a New
York-based entertainment group led by a former Marvel Comics executive that
also controls children's TV icons Thomas the Tank Engine and Bob the Builder.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
[removed],3604,1452208,[removed].
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:20:03 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Wow, what a response!
In #108, Paul Thompson wrote:
I swan, don't you youngsters learn anything while
growing up???
Wow, I had no idea. I had never heard of Castille soap, which makes me glad
I have a resource like the OTR digest which allows me to mine all the old
folks for knowledge! :-)
Not only have I never heard of Castille soap, but I'm an engineer in an
auto-parts factory; so I was doubly doomed to assume that the announcer said
cast steel.
A big thank you to all who replied to the digest and to me personally!
-chris holm
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:16 -0400
From: "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Reels at Cincinnati
I haven't read too much on the Digest lately about the Convention coming up
in less than 10 days at Cincinnati. For those that are interested in reel
to reels there will be more than 2000 reels being sold at a couple of the
Radio Memories tables. These are the master reels from two of the larger
reel to reel collectors that have over the last several years been
transcribed to either cassette and or CD. While a lot of the reels are of
rather widely circulated material there are some reels that are not in the
mainstream of circulating shows. Although collecting on reels has some draw
[removed] as the lack of new equipment and the large amount of space that
reels take up, many myself included find it their favorite means of
collecting. Due to the fact that I need to free up [removed] are hoping
that we can find home for many of these 2000 plus reels. Also a pretty
large quanity (trailer space permitting) of blank reels are being brought to
Cincy. If you are coming to the convention be sure to stop by Radio
Memories [removed] at $[removed] per reel you can help fill in some gaps
in your collection.
If you haven't decided whether to make the trip to the OTR Convention I
urge you to attend. The dealers have as wide a selection of nostalgia
related material I have ever seen. Reel to reel to MP3s, movie posters, etc
almost anything you can think of and each year there is new items to pick
over. Hope to see as many of you as possible this [removed] more these
conventions are supported the longer we will have them to look forward to
each year. Thanks, John Edwards
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:24:27 -0400
From: "ME!" <voxpop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE "I SWAN
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RE I SWAN didnt't LUM or ABNER used to say that all the time?
chet norris
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:25:38 -0400
From: Illoman <illoman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Jack Benny/Whistler
He wasn't, but Rod Serling was on JACK'S show. Jack pooh-poohs the
concept of the Twilight Zone, and then ends up caught in it himself
during his walk home. It's really, really fun, especially for people
like me who are fans of both series. We also have this episode in our
video library.
Speaking of Benny, I was listening to an episode of The Whistler, and
they mentioned a parody of that show by benny called The Fiddler. Can
someone give me the broadcast date for that show?
Thanks,
Mike
[removed]~illoman
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:26:02 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Swan Soap
I've enjoyed the thread on Swan. We used that soap in our house -- maybe
for washing unmentionables? I don't really recall. Some of the responses,
however, have tickled my funnybone.
Paul Thompson wrote:
I swan, don't you youngsters learn anything while growing up???
Where I grew up a common expression was "I'll swany," whatever that meant.
A little later, we moved to Florida and I acquired some scholarship. My new
exclamation was "Well, I'll Suwannee."
It's a wonder Charlie doesn't wash his hands of this whole mess.
Jim Cox
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:26:29 -0400
From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (OldTimeRadio Fan)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Harry Bartell's Other Talent
With all the all the attention that Harry Bartell is receiving lately in
the Digest, and deservedly so, I vaguely remember his brilliant
performance in an epic about the search for the Northwest passage across
America, in which he played either Lewis or Clark. If this has already
been mentioned, my apologies.
There is yet another talent that Harry had, of which many people are not
aware. Take a guess. He shares this talent with another OTR performer,
the Digest's own talented Conrad Binyon. Yes, both of them shared great
interest and knowledge about photography, and both Conrad's and Harry's
photos of studio performances, or actors just sitting around, have been
enjoyed by OTR fans, many years later. In Conrad's case, he is still
sharing his marvelous photography with us.
Stuart Lubin
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:27:20 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Do you hear what I hear?
"From: "Bob Reynolds" _boblo1@[removed]_ (mailto:boblo1@[removed])
In my 3 1/2 years receiving the newsletter, I don't think there has been a
discussion re: the OTR shows that had the best sound effects."
Dear Bob, & gang-
Wow- great thread! But a tough [removed]
For one thing, it's very subjective. Speaking both of OTR and MAD, I've
found preferences to range all the way from "BBC-esque,
mainly-actors-at-a-mic,
with little sfx production," all the way to "full-out, quad-sound, wowzer
sfx-
who cares about the acting & story?"
And of course, it's not really fair to compare very early OTR to very late,
[removed]
But personally, I find the best of the '50's era sfx to be just about
perfect. The "sound patterns" used in shows like DRAGNET, GUNSMOKE, and FT.
LARAMIE
are flat-out Works of Art- and more importantly, they perfectly support the
pieces, without overpowering them.
It's a little sad; it always puts me in mind of the quote (Mary Pickford?)
to the effect that, "It's so sad that Talkies killed Silent Film just as we
were getting really good at it!'"
Best,
-Craig
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:29:06 -0400
From: "Bill and Reva Muhr" <brmuhr@[removed];
To: "old radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: One More "Colored Oleo" Story
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Back in the very early 50's (when,of course,I was a very young child!),I
attended a University of Oregon/Oregon State College basketball game at
venerated McArthur Court in Eugene,my home town. Also in attendance that night
were members of the Oregon State Legislature. At the time,the hottest topic in
this organization was whether or not to allow "colored" oleomargarine. As soon
as the members of the Legislature were introduced by the PA announcer college
students (being college students) started a chant of "WE WANT COLORED OLEO!"
This went on for about three minutes. Eventually, they got Colored Oleo! Bill
Muhr
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:09:31 -0400
From: "Dandrea, Chris" <ChrisD@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Sears Radio theater
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Any know where I can buy the Sears Radio Theater series in MP3 on CD
ROM?
I would like to get the entire run of the series. It was a short lived
show running from 1979 - 1980 I think.
Thanks
Chris
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:09:57 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: [removed]
Bob Slate asked about margarine that had to be colored. I have lived most
of my life in South Dakota. As a kid I remember that South Dakota had some
kind of law that forbid the sales of colored margarine (we called it "oleo",
for oleomargarine). The only kind we could buy was that white stuff that
looked like lard. There was a little plastic container that came with the
white stuff (which also came in a plastic package). You had to break the
orange thing and knead the whole package. When you got thru, it looked like
butter.
Eventually, the legislature rescinded the law about colored oleo. I think
the purpose of the prohibition was to help the dairy farmers keep up their
sales of butter -- which was also artificially colored! I think real butter
is not yellow, sort of an off-white.
Now, if you go to a restaurant and order "oleomargarine", the waitresses
don't know what you are talking about!
Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:27:42 -0400
From: "R. R. King" <kingrr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Fwd: The Campbell Playhouse
Fwd: The Campbell Playhouse: I asked Roger Hill, the owner,
about a Campbell Playhouse program, "For Whom The Bell
Tolls" (with Orson Welles and Katherine Hepburn) that I was
lookin for.
Campbell Playhouse didn't do an adaptation of Hemingway's "For Whom
The Bell Tolls." But a December 30, 1938 broadcast of that series
featured Welles and Hepburn in an adaptation of the same author's "A
Farewell to Arms." A recording of this is available at the Library of
Congress, according to the LOC's online SONIC catalog. Why is it not
circulating? I don't know. Maybe because it costs a small fortune to
free up material from the LOC.
The LOC also claims to have a couple of other non-circulating
Playhouse episodes -- from the series' third season, produced by John
Houseman, but without Welles. I wish somebody would liberate those,
too. One of them is a version of Shaw's Pygmalion with Laurence
Olivier and Viven Leigh. The other is something called "Mrs. Faye
Comes of Age" with Mary Astor.
-----------
Just thought of another OTR time travel tale: an excellent and unusual
hour-long adaptation of Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King
Arthur's Court" which was the premiere episode of "The Ford Theater"
in 1947. The script updates the Yankee and his American slang to the
1940s and turns some of Twain's satire on its head but it is a nice
piece of radio.
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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:53:07 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Trucks
Stuart Lubin@OTRadiofan@[removed] wrote:
...I wish that Digesters would contribute more examples of misunderstood
words and phrases on OTR because they were audio only.
The only example I can come up with at the moment is when the [removed] was at
war with Italy at the beginning of WW2, the sponsor of "First Nighter" was
heard as "Campana Italian Bomb" when it was really "Campana Italian Balm".
Other examples would be much appreciated.
Stuart. All early listening in my years made me think
Dodge/Chrysler made "Jaw brated" trucks. During all
that time I often wondered what a 'brated' truck was?
Conrad Binyon
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon) Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:55:23 -0400
From: "Jim Hilliker" <jimhilliker@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: more Harry Bartell on TV
Besides the "Dragnet" TV show, you can also find Harry Bartell in at least 3
episodes of the classic 1950s TV situation comedy "I Love Lucy." Bartell is
seen in the second season's episode 42 (The Courtroom) as the process
server; in season 4's episode 114 (Hollywood at Last), in which he plays the
head waiter at The Brown Derby. This is the famous one in which Lucy causes
the waiter to dump food on William Holden. And in season 5's episode 132
(The Great Train Robbery) as the jewel thief. These can still be seen
occasionally on TV Land and are sold as video and DVD collections.
Jim Hilliker
Monterey, CA
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:55:39 -0400
From: JJiovanazz@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: South Florida Residence
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Hi,
Just a notice to old time radio fans in South Florida. My church, is having
a flee market type sale on Saturday, April 9th. From 8 AM till 2 PM. I have
donated my entire collection of old time radio cassette tapes for the flee
market. There are about 700 1hr. tapes from the late 30s to the mid 50s.
About
100 of the tapes are of, "Suspense." ( my favorite show) The rest are mostly
comedies, mysteries, and adventures. I am about to make or collect MP-3 disks
that take up a lot less room now that we are permanent residence of Florida.
I think they will be selling the tapes for .50 cents or [removed] apiece. The
address is: The Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Boca Raton. 2601 St.
Andrews
Blvd. Boca Raton, Florida 33434. (561) 482-2001. ENJOY.
James Jiovanazzo
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:56:01 -0400
From: "Harry Machin Jr" <harbev5@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR and Vocabularies
Stuart Luban's post about OTR developing a
youngster's vocabulary brought back a "lost"
memory. My 8th Grade teacher and Grade
School Principal was reading to us one day
when he came to "machete." He pronounced
the word "match-ett" and of course I raised
my hand and corrected him, saying that the
word was pronounced "ma-shett'-ee." He
gave me a stony stare and continued with his
own incorrect pronunciation. I knew the
correct pronunciation from "Jack Armstrong,"
of course. Thanks to Stuart for bringing back
that memory from 1943.
_________________
Harry Machin Jr
harbev5@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:56:16 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: harry bartell
I just got some HI-Q escape shows and one of the places to hear Bartell
is in the Vincent Price Three skeleton key. He plays Auguste and once
you get to know the quality of the voice you will hear it all the time.
A lot of the time he would play a mexican or a frenchman, but once you
know the voice you won't miss it. Again, I heard it first I think on
Dear Abbie, or however you spell it. Kurt
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