Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #111
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Date: 4/7/2005 9:14 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 111
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Once again, from TV TO Radio!         [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Amos and Andy of 12-17-46             [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
  Swanning and Miscellaneous            [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Re: I Swan                            [ Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@rocketmai ]
  We've lost another long-time dealer.  [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  National Recording Registry           [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  more soap                             [ "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed] ]
  re: no new tape                       [ Dan <teac35@[removed]; ]
  OTR Tributes                          [ Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon. ]
  Re: Paul Henning                      [ Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed]; ]
  Jack Webb                             [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
  OTR-related monument -- Earle Graser  [ "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@6 ]
  In Memory of Murray                   [ Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed] ]
  Cincinnati Convention                 [ "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed] ]
  Ivan Snell                            [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  They are still out there              [ "Tom Bewley" <fords3137@[removed] ]
  no more tape                          [ Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed]; ]
  OTR Article in Ironwood Daily Globe   [ seandd@[removed] ]
  Smothers Brothers in Spokane          [ seandd@[removed] ]
  4-8 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  useless information                   [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:59:27 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Once again, from TV TO Radio!

From: OTRadiofan@[removed] (Stuart Lubin)

... about TV performers of  the 60's and 70's who
are now doing "OTR-related pursuits"... The only one I  can think of
off-hand
is Harold Gould ... a regular at SPERDVAC conventions  ..."

Dear Stuart & folks-

Well, us Right-Coasters could add some FOTR vets: Paul Peterson, and Will
Hutchins. I've been privileged to share the mic with them- though with Will
it's
 a struggle to keep him from stealing it!

Best,
-Craig Wichman

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:59:46 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Amos and Andy of 12-17-46

Hi Everybody,

Frank Bresee is looking for a copy of the Amos and Andy show of 12-17-46
with Al Jolson.  Frank glass discs of the show is worn out.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:27:43 -0400
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Swanning and Miscellaneous

"Tim Lones" <tlones@[removed]; wrote:
My store carries Kirk's CoCo Hardwater Castile-similar to Lava Soap.

It's difficult to imagine a Lava style Castile soap, as the latter is
intended to be especially gentle whereas Lava's name suggests it was
made with volcanic pumice to clean away the grime of rugged toil such
as auto mechanics. The two-note rhythmic LAVA jingle always
suggested, to me, more the punishment of the guilty than the washing
of hands.

"Don and Kathy Dean" <dxk@[removed];, replying to Chet Norris,
remarked upon the expression, "I swan.":
I recall my mother using an expression, " I swan to goodness, if
that don't beat all".
I believe that would be an example of a "minced oath," sort of like
"Jiminy Cricket" being a form of "Jesus Christ." Except in this case
the very mention of the act of swearing was suppressed, swearing
being regarded by many as a sin, with no clear distinction drawn
between swearing in the sense of using vulgarities and swearing in a
courtroom. The expression goes back well before _Lum and Abner_,
certainly to the early 20th century and, I believe, back to the Civil
War or earlier.

"Mark Wuellner" <mwuellne@[removed];
Does anyone know of any OTR-related statues/monuments/places?
I don't know if Popeye counts; he did have his own radio show. There
is a statue of Popeye in, I believe, Crystal City, Texas, erected by
local spinach growers in grateful appreciation of Popeye's role in
the popularization of that crop. But then, as mentioned earlier, on
the radio show Popeye actually derived his strength from Wheatina,
which product, coincidentally, sponsored the show.

"Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed]; reminisced:
The notes about castile soap reminded me of the soap my mother used for
laundry.  It was [removed] used a cheese grater to shred the
Fel-Naptha into the washer.  ...And that jogs my memory about "bath
night."  Dad turned on the water heater Saturdays and Mondays.
Saturday night was the time for our weekly bath.
I picked up a bar of Fels-Naptha recently; it's made by Dial in
Phoenix. Until I was in about the sixth grade our water heater was a
tank on the back of the coal range in the kitchen (the same one that
picked up audible radio broadcasts), through which our sometime hot
water pipe ran, so we had hot water only when there was a fire in the
range. Which meant we had more hot water in the Winter than in the
Summer, since the range also served as a source of heat. It also
meant that when we finally got an electric range hot water was much
less plentiful, having to be heated on one of the eyes, a
teakettle-full at a time. I seem to recall we had to heat up three
kettles-full to provide enough warm water in the big laundry tub that
served as our bathtub once a week. We didn't go dirty the rest of the
week; we took one-kettle "sponge" baths from a porcelain basin in the
kitchen sink.

On misunderstanding radio: as I've related in the past, likely to no
one's amusement but my own [anyone else who might have found it cute
has long since passed on] as a toddler I thought that Fibber McGee
was a Key and Molly was a hot tamale; I was not aware at my innocent
age of the laws of the day that forbade such marriages. In addition,
I seldom missed a broadcast of the Betty Crocker Show, as I was
fascinated by the marvel of a talking saltine, even if she did only
talk about cooking. I suppose I must have been a strange child. I
also remember distinctly my disappointment - I still recall that I
was sitting in a high chair - when my first bowl of Kellogg's Rice
Crispies, the World's Only Talking Cereal, refused to acknowledge me
with so much as a single word.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:28:02 -0400
From: Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: I Swan

I've got an old Firesign Theater tape where they say that and segue
into ASWAN (as in the Dam) I never knew what I Swan was until now.
Thanks

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:35:26 -0400
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  We've lost another long-time [removed]

Folks;

   Received word this morning from our friend Terry Salomonson of Audio
Classics Archive; another OTR dealer is gone.

   Ivan Snell, of The Shadow's Sanctum and who was due to be at Cincinnati
next week, has died of an apparent heart attack. For those of us who have
been attending conventions for many years, Ivan was an ever-present figure;
he was the only tape dealer to make the trek to last year's REPS Showcase,
and was a routine presense at both Cincinatti and the Newark FOTR Convention.

   On a completely personal note, it was Ivan who, many years ago, introduced
me to the South African Avengers radio program.

          Charlie

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:48:44 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  National Recording Registry
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Hi Gang!

The Voice of Art Chimes wrote (highly edited, here):

The Library of Congress has announced 50 items that will be added to its
National Recording Registry of key audio recordings of enduring value.

The complete list is at [removed].

Several items are of particular interest to OTR devotees, including --
9. NBC radio broadcast coverage of Charles A. Lindbergh's arrival and
reception in Washington, [removed] (1927)
21. Edward R. Murrow broadcast from London (1940)
22. "We Hold These Truths," radio broadcast (1941)
28. Jack Benny radio program, March 28, 1948
("Your money or your life")

By using the worded "added," Library of Congress implies that this
is an ongoing project and that this newly announced Top-50 is being
added to some registry that already exists. I went to the above link
only to find these new inductees. If this registry already exists,
does anybody know where to find the entire list, or, at least, how
t[ navigate around LoC's website to do so?

Hopefully, this is not the initial offering as 't'would be sad that
Herb Morrison's "Oh, the humanity!" Hindenburg coverage,
Orson Welles's Mercury Theatre "The War of the Worlds," and
the Mae West/Don Ameche "Garden of Eden" sketch from
"Bergen/McCarthy" were glaringly overlooked.

Always in the ether,

Derek Tague

[removed]: I know I've said this before, but as a proud New Jerseyan,
I'd like to accentuate that three of the biggest radio stories of the
1930s took place in the Garden State: 1) the Lindbergh baby
kidnapping trial; 2) the Hindenburg; 3) WOTW.

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[ADMINISTRIVIA: The website location for the National Recording Registry
Board is [removed]

Also, for those of you with XM Satellite Radio, this topic was covered in an
interview with Sam Brylawski on this morning's "The Bob Edwards Show" - this
program is re-run at 9:00pm edt/6:00pm pdt this evening, and is looped on the
on-line service all day today, and in rotation on the weekend.  --cfs3]

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:49:12 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  more soap

In #110, Ted Kneebone wrote:

The notes about castile soap reminded me
of the soap my mother used for laundry.
It was Fels-Naptha.  She had a Maytag
wringer washer, washboard, and two big
rinsing tubs.

Now, I may not have heard of castille soap, but this youngster has definitely
heard of Fels-Naptha soap.  When I left home to move to Michigan, a bar of
Fels-Naptha was one of the things my mother sent with me.  Not for laundry by
the load, but for cleaning individual stains.  A chunk of that soap and a lot
of elbow grease seems to get the worst grease, grass, or mustard stains out
of everything.

I know Fels-Naptha is an old soap, but I don't remember ANY advertising for
it.  Modern or old-time, print or radio/TV.  Every other soap advertised on
the radio during the OTR era; did Fels-Naptha sponsor any shows?

-chris holm

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:40:21 -0400
From: Dan <teac35@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: no new tape
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actually, new reel tape will be manufactured later this month by a company
located in Pennsylvania called Discount Tape. Part of the bankrupt buyout
from Quantegy included all manufacturing rights and such to the entire Audio
Tape line from Quantegy. You can still get tape from this reputable site:
[removed] . They have a daily update halfway down the
homepage.

 DISCLAIMER: I do not work or am I associated with this company - only a
satisfied customer of their products.

 Make Yahoo! your home page

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:43:48 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR Tributes

 >  Does anyone know of any OTR-related statues/monuments/places?

There's "Allen's Alley" in downtown Boston, renamed and dedicated to
native Fred Allen a few years ago.  And it literally is an alley -- a
pedestrian pass-through between Boylston and Stuart Streets.

Alan Chapman

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:39:24 -0400
From: Jordan Young <jyoung@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Paul Henning

I was out of town when Paul passed. Just wanted to note he was one of
the nicest, gentlest and most down-to-earth folks in the business
I've ever met, a real sweetheart. No bull, no pretense of
sophistication, a Midwestern farm boy to the end.

And yes, in response to inquiries, he talks at great length about his
radio work on "Fibber McGee and Molly" and "Burns and Allen" in my
book, THE LAUGH CRAFTERS. Contact me off-digest if interested.

Jordan R. Young

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:07:11 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Webb

     Just in case anyone's interested, I located
a book titled "Just The Facts Ma'am", the authorized
biography of Jack Webb.  It's published by the same
publishing house my books come from.  It includes
everything (as I understand it) about Jack Webb's
life, his work on OTR, and television among other
interesting things.  Once I get the ISBN, I'll enter
it on this mailing list.

     Wasn't Jack Webb the star of "Pat Novak For Hire"
among others?

Another OTR Fan,

Kenneth Clarke

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:37:28 -0400
From: "Frederick S. Hillman" <fshillman@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OTR-related monument -- Earle Graser

In response to Mark Wuellner's question about OTR-related statues or
[removed]

Someone posted a few months ago that the city of Farmington Hills, MI
planned to erect a sign near the former residence of Earle Graser, the
pre-Brace Beemer radio Lone Ranger, who was tragically lost in 4/1941 as
he was driving home from a broadcast.

I sent a letter to the city council in support of the monument and
received a very courteous reply  from them.  They indicated that the
sign will be installed "in the Spring of 2005," and (in what I think is
a marvelous gesture) the "sign will be in black and silver instead of
the traditional green to keep with the theme."

There has been some talk of a statue of Beemer in his hometown, Mt.
Carmel, IL, but I don't know if that has moved forward.  Perhaps someone
else has some info on [removed]  Here's an idea:  a sign below the Mt.
Carmel highway signs saying something like "Birthplace of Brace Beemer,
Radio's Lone Ranger."  After all, other towns and cities announce
"All-American City" or "Championship Pom-Pom Team 1997," etc!

Hi-Yo Silver,
Fred Hillman

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:47:03 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  In Memory of Murray

I notice in Ron Sayles' recent births/death submission
among  the April 7th birthday anniversary dates that
of Murray Bolen, who for a time was the
producer/director of "The Mayor of the Town" during a
period of the time I had my stint appearing on the
show at CBS.

One of Murray Bolen's many talents was  playing piano
and writing songs.  I remember these lines from one of
the ditties he wrote and sang due to a request I often
made of him whenever he sat down to play for the cast
during a break.  It was called "I'm Quitting Ole San
Quentin," and it included the following lines:

"I'm quitting Ole San Quentin,
Sing Sing's the place I wanna be.
I'll drop you guys a hint,
up there I'll learn to print,
I'll make myself some dough,
you're gonna see."

Ah, memories.

Conrad Binyon

---
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
Encino, CA
Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:10:14 -0400
From: "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Cincinnati Convention
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Getting close. Anyone who is coming can pay when you
get here. There are no added fees for doing that.
It will be the first visit for Elliott Reid to Cincinnati. Hal
Stone, Rosemary Rice, and Esther Geddes will make
return visits.
There are still rooms available at the hotel. All the
little soccer players will be there the week before us.
Anyone who comes this year will not have to stay at
other hotels like last year.
Looks like another weekend of old time radio and
nostalgia.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:10:28 -0400
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Ivan Snell

We recently lost another of our OTR enthusiasts.  Ivan was a friend of Barry
Hill who died a few months ago.  This news was given to me by Terry
Salomonson.  Ivan was a frequent dealer at our convention.  Jay

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:10:52 -0400
From: "Tom Bewley" <fords3137@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  They are still out there
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My now deceased aunt was a collector of common artifacts of the 30's and 40's.
Once while visiting me in Seattle we reminisced about mixing an orange powder
into uncolored margarine. A couple weeks following her return to Ohio I
received an envelope that containing a six sided piece of cardstock on which a
blob of orange powder was captured by a cellophane cover. Printed on the back
was, "Margarine color  15PG  Starch--FD & C Yellows 3 & 4. Not less 15 % Pure
color. Mix into 1 lb Margarine until evenly colored. The Dykem Co., St. Louis,
Mo. I still have it. Anyone have a pound of uncolored Margarine?

Tom Bewley

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:11:03 -0400
From: Tom Greenli <tom_greenli@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  no more tape

hi
this is for those who still use reel to reel, as you
may or may not know no new tape is being made
according to a newspaper article,
<snip>
ed

Ed,
The article that I read stated "No more reel to reel
tape made in the US". There are still a few companies
over seas making it.
Tom

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:09:42 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR Article in Ironwood Daily Globe

This is a very nice nostalgic remembrance of OTR from a small newspaper in
California.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:09:53 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Smothers Brothers in Spokane

The Smothers Brothers are about to play Spokane.

In an interview with the paper there, they identify Jack Benny and George
Burns as among their all-time favorite TV show guests.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:21:04 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  4-8 births/deaths

April 8th births

04-08-1882 - Lulu McConnell - Kansas City, MO - d. 10-9-1962
comedienne: "It Pays to Be Ignorant"
04-08-1887 - Walter Connolly - Cincinnati, OH - d. 5-28-1940
actor: Charlie Chan "Charlie Chan"
04-08-1889 - Sir Adrian Boult - Chester, England - d. 2-23-1983
writer: "Advs. of Ellery Queen"; "Casebook of Gregory Hood"; "Sherlock
Holmes"
04-08-1896 - Yip Harburg - NYC - d. 3-5-1981
lyricist: "Columbia Presents Corwin"
04-08-1900 - Bert "Mad Russian" Gordon - NYC - d. 11-30-1974
comedian: "Eddie Cantor Show"; Yasha "Duffy's Tavern"
04-08-1905 - George Baxter - Paris, France - d. 9-10-1976
announcer: "Grand Central Station"
04-08-1905 - Ilka Chase - NYC - d. 2-15-1978
panelist, hostess, actress: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Luncheon at the
Waldorf"
04-08-1912 - Sonja Henie - Kristiania, Norway - d. 12-12-1969
skater, actress: "Hollywood Hotel"; "Bill Ster's Colgate Sports
Newsreel"; "Shell Show"
04-08-1915 - Fred Flowerday - d. 4-6-1986
director: "The Lone Ranger"; "The Green Hornet"; "Challenge of the
Yukon"
04-08-1916 - Carl Cotner - IN - d. 11-14-1986
steel guitar: "Gene Aurty's Melody Ranch"
04-08-1919 - Virginia O'Brien - Los Angles, CA - d. 1-23-2001
actress: "Blue Ribbon Town"
04-08-1921 - Franco Corelli - Ancona, Italy - d. 10-29-2003
operatic tenor: "Gala Performance"
04-08-1930 - Dorothy Tutin - London, England - d. 8-6-2001
actress: "Before the Party"
04-08-1941 - Peggy Lennon - Los Angeles, CA
singer: (The Lennon Sisters) "Music on Deck"; "Voices of Vista";
"Guest Star"

April 8th deaths

01-28-1914 - Nelson Olmstead - MN - d. 4-8-1992
actor: Joe Huston "Bachelor's Children"; Lee Edgar "In the Case of
Aggie Horn"
02-12-1893 - Omar Bradley - Clark, MO - d. 4-8-1981
general of the army: "What Are We Fighting For?"; "[removed] Campaign"
02-17-1897 - Marian Anderson - South Philadelphia, PA - d. 4-8-1993
singer: "Ford Evening Sunday Hour"; "Telephone Hour"; "New World A'
Coming"
03-08-1909 - Claire Trevor - NYC - d. 4-8-2000
actress: Lorelei Kilbourne " Big Town", Theresa Travers "Results,
Inc."
05-04-1924 - Gene Klaven - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-8-2004
new york morning personalty: "Klaven and Finch"; "Klaven in the
Morning"
06-13-1920 - Ben Johnson - Pawnee, OK - d. 4-8-1996
actor: "Francis Burke for Attorney General"
12-19-1894 - Ford Frick - Wawaka, IN - d. 4-8-1978
baseball comissioner: "Baseball: An Action History"; "Play Ball";
"Tribute to Babe Ruth"
xx-xx-1876 - Louis Dean - Wilmington, DE - d. 4-8-1933
announcer: "Stoopnagle and Budd"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:11:52 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  useless information

I don't know if anybody really wants to know this, but the Sleep No More
show called Marris is from the story the horsehair trunk by Davis Grubb.
Didn't that just make your day?  Kurt

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