Subject: [removed] Digest V2009 #50
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Date: 3/7/2009 3:16 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2009 : Issue 50
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Paul Harvey's Influences              [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  3-6 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Building a radio reference library    [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Og, Son of Fire - Lizzie Tish         [ rand@[removed] ]
  Mercedes McCambridge                  [ Bob Hicks <bobdhicks@[removed]; ]
  Johnny Dollar must have had a wad of  [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
  crystal sets                          [ Grams46@[removed] ]
  OTR books on sale                     [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed] ]
  You Bet Your Life                     [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed] ]
  3-7 births/deaths                     [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Cat Whisker or Cat's Whisker          [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:08:09 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Paul Harvey's Influences

Philip Chavin asked if there were any of Paul Harvey's 1944 WENR newscasts in
existance.  No, but I do have the WENR station break and the opening minutes
of a 1947 newscast.  It was on the end of a home recording of the end of the
Henry Morgan program.  I have the disc somewhere but only now have a poorly
dubbed tape of it, which is why I didn't get it out to him.  It is very
scratchy and I know it can be improved if the disc can be found.

Listening to it, the voice is there but the style has not yet crystallized.
He is reading straight, not using pauses and vast sweeps of pitch and volume.
But I will tell you who was.  Gabriel Heatter.  There are practically no
Heatter newscasts around, although we all have heard him saying "Ah, there's
good news tonight!"  When I finally came across a Heatter newscast from the
night that Israel was created in April 1948 I realized he had absolutely the
same vocal style as Harvey later used.  Pauses, long jumps of pitch, vast
changes of volume emphasizing words, all of it except the deep vocal quality.
Jim Cox's Radio Speakers even lists that the title of his broadcasts from
1935 thru 65 was "Gabriel Heatter News and Comment."  Did Harvey steal
everything??

What I found annoying during the obits last week was the contention that
Harvey INVENTED broadcast news.  His son said on the [removed] web site
""My father and mother created from thin air what one day became radio and
television news. So in the past year, an industry has lost its godparents and
today millions have lost a friend."  CREATED FROM THIN
AIR??????????????????????????????  How DARE he!!!!!!!!  If anything Paul
Harvey successfully CONTINUED a form that goes as far back as [removed]
Kaltenborn, Fulton Lewis Jr,  Elmer Davis, and Gabriel Heatter, and continued
it long after most other broadcasters realized that it was not proper to mix
together indistinguishably news, opinionated comment, AND ADVERTISING.
Reputable journalists will not do commercials, let along mix it into the
newscast in such a way that sometimes the listener is suckered into thinking
at first that it is a news story.  If you read the [removed] obit, you will note
that they are very careful to not ever call him a journalist.

Paul Harvey was an entertaining broadcaster.  What Larry King said was true,
you cannot tune away from a Paul Harvey broadcast.  He has a place in
broadcasting history, but he did not create it.

Michael Biel   mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:08:18 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  3-6 births/deaths

March 6th births

03-06-1882 - Guy Kibbee - El Paso, TX - d. 5-24-1956
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-06-1885 - Ring Lardner - Niles, MI - d. 9-27-1933
writer: "Hallmark Hall of Fame"; "NBC Presents: Short Story"
03-06-1900 - Jay C. Flippen - Little Rock, AR - d. 2-3-1971
actor: Sergeant "Rookies"
03-06-1904 - Hugh Williams - Bexhill-on-Sea, England - d. 12-7-1969
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
03-06-1905 - Adelaide Hawley - d. 12-21-1998
consultant on women's issues: "Adelaide Hawley Show"
03-06-1905 - Bob Wills - Limestone County, TX - d. 5-13-1975
western singer: (Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys) "Rexall Rhythm
Round-Up"
03-06-1906 - Lou Costello - Paterson, NJ - d. 3-3-1959
comedian: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Abbott and Costello Show"
03-06-1909 - Floyd Holmes - Glasgow, KY - d. 1-1-1970
singer: (Prairie Ramblers) "Smile-a-While"
03-06-1913 - Ella Logan - Glasgow, Scotlans - d. 5-1-1969
singer: "The Chase and Sanborn Hour"; "Kraft Music Hall"
03-06-1914 - Kiril Kondrashin - Moscow, Russia - d. 3-7-1981
conductor: "Van Cliburn Concert"
03-06-1916 - Red Callender - Richmond, VA - d. 3-8-1992
jazz bass player: "Jubilee"; "One Night Stand"
03-06-1916 - Rochelle Hudson - Oklahoma City, OK - d. 1-17-1972
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
03-06-1916 - Virginia Gregg - Harrisburg, IL - d. 9-15-1986
actor: Helen Asher "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"
03-06-1917 - Frankie Howerd - York, England - d. 4-19-1992
comedian: "Frankie Howerd Show"
03-06-1918 - Roger Price - Charleston, WV - d. 10-31-1990
writer, actor: "The Comedy Writers Show"
03-06-1923 - Ed McMahon - Detroit, MI
actor-announcer: Monitor"
03-06-1927 - William J. Bell - Chicago, IL - d. 4-29-2005
writer: "The Guiding Light"
03-06-1930 - Lorin Maazel - Paris, France
conductor: "NBC Summer Symphony"
03-06-1934 - Art Blaske - d. 8-25-1997
disk jockey: KFAM St. Cloud, Minnesota
03-06-1935 - Leonard Radic - Melbourne, Australia
writer: "A Clean Sweep"; "Ground Rules"
03-06-1942 - David Cleve - England - d. 9-16-2005
actor: "Out of School"

March 6th deaths

02-23-1886 - Rae Eleanor Ball - d. 3-6-1967
violinist: CBS Network
01-06-1915 - Margaret Muse - Dallas, TX - d. 3-6-2006
actor: "Family Theatre"
01-26-1907 - Rita Ascot - d. 3-6-1988
actor: "Fay "Ma Perkins"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
02-02-1905 - Ayn Rand - St. Petersberg, Russia - d. 3-6-1982
author: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-08-1841 - Oliver Wendell Holmes - Boston, MA - d. 3-6-1935
On his 90th birthday he delivered a short radio speech
05-11-1900 - Georgia Fifield - d. 3-6-1985
actor: Mrs. Hipplewater "Frank Watanabe and Honorable Archie"
05-14-1895 - Lew Lehr - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-6-1950
comic: "Ben Bernie, The Old Maestro"; "Stop Me If You've Heard This One"
05-26-1904 - George Formby - Lancashire, England - d. 3-6-1961
singer, actor: "Manitoba Flood Relief Show"
06-04-1927 - Phil Rammacher - d. 3-6-2003
drums: "The Hoagy Carmichael Show"
06-05-1908 - Edward James - d. 3-6-1995
creator of "Father Knows Best"
06-10-1921 - Chuck Thompson - Palmer, MA - d. 3-6-2005
sportscaster: Baltimore Orioles, Baltimore Colts
06-24-1921 - Peggy DeCastro - On a Sugar Plantation, Dominican
Republic - d. 3-6-2004
singer: (The DeCastro Sisters) "Steve Lawrence Show"; "Here's to
Veterans"
06-26-1892 - Pearl S. Buck - Hillsboro, WV - d. 3-6-1973
author: "America's Town Meeting of the Air"; "Pacific Story"
06-29-1901 - Nelson Eddy - Providence, RI - d. 3-6-1967
singer: "Voice of Firestone"; "Vicks Open House"; "Chase & Sanborn Hour"
07-01-1909 - Gertrude Fass - d. 3-6-2005
writer: "Suspense"; "The Whistler"
07-11-1942 - Tommy Vance - Oxford, England - d. 3-6-2005
presenter: Radio 1
07-20-1912 - Tom McDermott - McHenry, IL - d. 3-6-1996
producer, director: "Portia Faces Life"; "Rosemary"; "Wendy Warren and
the News"
08-08-1917 - Malvin Wald - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-6-2008
writer: "Suspense"
08-19-1873 - Fred Stone - Longmont, CO - d. 3-6-1959
comedian: "Gulf Headliners"
08-31-1900 - Cedric Foster - Hartford, CT - d. 3-6-1975
commentator: "News and Commentary"
09-05-1918 - Max Harris - Bournemouth, England - d. 3-6-2004
composer: "Round the Horn"
09-06-1904 - Maxie Rosenbloom - NYC - d. 3-6-1976
light heavyweight boxing champion, actor: "Slapsie Maxie Show"
09-08-1905 - Henry Wilcoxon - Dominica, West Indies - d. 3-6-1984
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-19-1904 - Elvia Allman - Concord, NC - d. 3-6-1992
comedienne: Tootsie Sagwell "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"; Cora
Dithers "Blondie"
09-25-1909 - Don White - Wolfe Creek, WV - d. 3-6-2005
country, bluegrass: "Briarhoppers"
10-11-1887 - Oscar Shaw - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-6-1967
singer: "Broadway Varieties"
10-20-1882 - Margaret Dumont - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-6-1965
actor: "Paramount Movie Parade"
10-27-1918 - Teresa Wright - NYC - d. 3-6-2005
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-06-1854 - John Philps Sousa - Washington, [removed] - d. 3-6-1932
composer of marches: "John Philip Sousa Speaks"
11-23-1888 - Al Bernard - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-6-1949
singer: "Dutch Masters Minstrels"; "Molle Merry Minstrels"
11-26-1907 - Frances Dee - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-6-2004
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-25-1912 - Leighton Noble - Pasadena, CA - d. 3-6-1994
vocalist, band leader: "Leighton Noble and His Orchestra"
xx-xx-1935 - Graham Armitage - Manchester, England - d. 3-6-1999
actor: Sherlock Holmes "Sherlock Holmes"

Ron

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:08:31 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Building a radio reference library

Kenneth Clarke listed the four books in his starter library of OTR books and
then stated "I've checked with Barnes and Noble, Border's, and Waldenbooks
(who many times will tell me that they don't have any books on the subject(s)
I need available)."  You're going to the wrong places.  These stores stock
only currently available books, and unfortunately usually ignore MacFarland
and Bear Manor Books.  What you need are used book stores, not new book
stores.  But what you really need -- since it is obvious you are on-line
since you are reading this -- are the web sites that are affiliated with used
book dealers, such as Amazon, Alibris, A-1Books, Abebooks, etc.  I usually
try Amazon first, then compare the other ones.  You will find plenty of good
radio history books for under five or ten dollars plus $[removed] postage.  Don't
worry about these services, I've bought literally hundreds of books thru them.

For a start, go to Amazon and do a search for Stay Tuned Sterling.  You will
find copies of the 2 older editions of Stay Tuned: Concise Hist Amer
Broadcast
<[removed]
4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236324579&sr=8-4> by Christopher H. Sterling and John
M. Kittross starting at $[removed]  Get the 2nd 1998 edition -- you don't need to
get the very expensive 3rd 2001 edition.  (If you keep going down this search
list you will see some other great but more expensive books (including some I
see I need to order!) that had listed the Sterling-Kittross book in their
bibliography.

Interested in some OTR star?  Put their name in a search.  Four books about
Jack Benny starting at $[removed]  Fred Allen?  Can you spare 51 cents?  How
about the moguls of the industry?  You can get Eugene Lyons bio of David
Sarnoff for 3 cents, but it lies so much it isn't even worth the three cents.
Put in NBC and you can get the 75 Anniversary book that Elizabeth and I
fact-checked for $[removed]  (There are a couple of places where they did not
take our advice, so there still are errors in the book.  Sorry.) You can even
look ME up (including my middle name as "Michael Jay Biel") and you will see
a VASTLY overpriced copy of my [removed] dissertation for $[removed]!!  (Then come a
couple of books that mention me, but GAD I just got a copy last week of Rerun
Nation for much less than $[removed], so you have to compare searches.)

Yes I have been buying books about broadcasting and recording for over 40
years, so that explains why I am surrounded with books.  But with the
internet, finding books has become so much easier -- I've bought at least ten
in the past two weeks. Nobody has any excuse for not having some basic
research books because some of them are so cheap. Sometimes the older obscure
books are the cheapest.  Book FROM the golden age of radio are great sources.
Look in the bibliographies and footnotes of the books for more titles and
authors.  Chris Sterling's book is a goldmine of sources because he is the
premier bibliographer of the broadcasting industry.  Even with the $[removed]
postage you can afford to buy one or two a week for a total of about $[removed]
Pretty soon you too can have a reference library to envy.

(Standard disclaimers apply -- but doesn't Charlie have a deal with one of
these sellers to help support the digest?)

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:08:40 -0500
From: rand@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Og, Son of Fire - Lizzie Tish

I was flipping through Dunning recently and ran into a listing for a
program that really piqued my curiosity.

"Og, Son of Fire" ran on CBS in 1934-35 three times a week as part of the
"Libby Packing Adventure Hour".  Dunning notes that the show was something
like "Jack Armstrong" featuring a cast of cavemen and dinosaurs.

Are there any surviving examples of the program in audio or script form?

This show sounds _too_ funny.

Also, a question about a transcription I obtained recently.  It's from ABC
and dated 1952 featuring two 5 minute shows recorded as an audition for a
show called "Lizzie Tish".  From what I can tell in listening to it, the
show was designed as a five-day-a-week comedy show with Al Pearce doing a
comedy routine as the title character.

Did this show ever make it to the network?  It seems similar in format to
"Falstaff's Fables", another ABC transcription I bought a few months ago,
that is a five minute daily show featuring comedy from "Falstaff Openshaw"
that was broadcast on ABC's schedule in the early 50s.

Randy

____________
Randy A. Riddle
Mebane, NC

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:08:50 -0500
From: Bob Hicks <bobdhicks@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mercedes McCambridge

I was listening to some Lights Out where Arch Obler referred to
/Mercedes McCambridge as "Merseeds" McCambridge. I have always heard it
as "MerSayDes" McCambridge. I know there are those on the list that knew
her and/or were around her. Which did she use? In other words, what was
the correct way to say her name. Thank you.

Bob Hicks
/

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:09:02 -0500
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnny Dollar must have had a wad of them

I've been listening to a lot of Johnny Dollar 5-parts lately, and
something has started to bother me: He really racks up quite a few
expenses on his expense account.  He's submitting this report for
re-imbursement, so I'm assuming he's using his own money to pay up
front.

When I travel for work, I put everything on a company credit card.  When
I return, I fill out a report and the company pays the card directly.
However, I assume in Dollar's day, credit cards weren't in widespread
use.  I believe that department stores and such would have their own
charge cards, but national credit cards couldn't have been that common,
or even accepted at most places.

So how was Dollar paying for all this?  Was he writing checks
everywhere?  Traveler's Checks? Did carry a big wad of bills and paid
cash for everything?  And with all the times he got beat up, knocked
out, or even shot, why didn't some hood ever roll him even once?

I know I should repeat to myself it's just a show, I should really just
relax.  But it has been bugging me a little bit.  In the 1950s, how
would someone handle that?  Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?  Or
should I say "The How Did Dollar  Pay for Everything Matter"?

-chris holm

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:09:38 -0500
From: Grams46@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  crystal sets

From: "W. Harris"  nbcblue@[removed]:

Are you sure this was a crystal set they were  listening too? By 1938 the
crystal set had long been replaced by AC powered  table top and console
radios.

during the thirties my grandparents  and their children had a scarcity of
cash.  a "store bought" radio  was a luxury that they couldn't afford.

peace  from  kathy
support our troops; end the war in iraq
john 3:16

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:09:45 -0500
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR books on sale

Hamilton Books ( [removed] ) has some OTR books on sale now.

INFORMATION, PLEASE.
By Martin Grams, Jr.  Paperbound. Published at $[removed]    Our Price $[removed]

PRIVATE EYELASHES: Radio's Lady Detectives.
By Jack French.  Paperbound. Published at $[removed]    Our Price $[removed]

STORY OF VIC & SADE.
By Bill Idelson.  Paperbound. Published at $[removed]    Our Price $[removed]

If you buy all 3, Postage & Handling is only $[removed]

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:09:55 -0500
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  You Bet Your Life

Did the radio version of You Bet Your Life ever just use the soundtrack from
the TV version?

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:10:03 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  3-7 births/deaths

March 7th births

03-07-1878 - Percy Hemus - Auckland, New Zealand - d. 12-22-1943
actor: Dr. Winslow "Road of Life"; Old Wrangler "Tom Mix"
03-07-1880 - Sidney Scott Booth - Birmingham, England - d. 3-5-1946
radio performer
03-07-1882 - J. W. Fincher - Arkansas - d. 8-xx-1951
country music: "Crazy Water Crystals Barn Dance"
03-07-1886 - Ray Largay - Wisconsin - d. 9-28-1974
actor: Mr. Farnum "Ma Perkins"; Frederick Nelson "Young Widder Brown"
03-07-1889 - Lula Vollmer - Keyser, NC - d. 5-2-1955
writer: "Moonshine and Honeysuckle"
03-07-1890 - George H. Shackley - Quincy, MA - d. 10-25-1959
conductor/composer: "Ava Maria Hour"; "Homemaker's Exchange"
03-07-1905 - Ruth Freed Akst - Vancouver, Canada - d. 8-7-1989
composer/violinist lead singing and instrumental trio on radio
03-07-1906 - Edward Mabley - Binghampton, NY - d. 12-16-1984
writer: "The American School of the Air"
03-07-1906 - Louis Pelletier - NYC - d. 2-11-2000
writer: "The FBI in Peace and War"
03-07-1907 - George Beck - NYC - d. 10-6-1999
screenwriter: "Good News of 1939"; "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"
03-07-1913 - Smokey Montgomery - Rinard, IA - d. 6-6-2001
banjo picker: (Member of the Light Crust Dough Boys) "Columbia's
Country Caravan"
03-07-1916 - Vivian Smolen - d. 6-11-2006
actor: Laurel Grosvenor "Stella Dallas"; Sunday Brinthrope "Our Gal
Sunday"
03-07-1917 - Hubert Bisping - d. 7-26-1992
newscaster: KUTA Salt Lake City, Utah
03-07-1921 - Elanor Summerfield - London, England - d. 7-13-2001
actor: "Many a Slip"
03-07-1923 - Arthur Julian - Memphis, TN - d. 1-30-1995
writer: "The Beulah Show"
03-07-1925 - Rene Gagnon - Manchester, NH - d. 10-12-1979
raiser of second flag on Iwo Jima:: "Interview programs"
03-07-1925 - Richard Vernon - Reading, England - d. 12-4-1997
actor: Slartibartfast "Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
03-07-1929 - Marion Marlowe - St. Louis, MO
singer: "Arthur Godfrey Time"
03-07-1934 - Willard Scott - Alexandria, VA
disc jockey: (The Joy Boys)
03-07-1937 - Anne Kristen - Scotland - d. 8-7-1996
actor: "Carver"

March 7th deaths

01-01-1913 - Norman Rosten - d. 3-7-1995
writer: "Cavalcade of America"; "An American in Russia"
01-01-1916 - Earl Wrightson - Baltimore, MD - d. 3-7-1993
singer: "Highways in Melody"; "Getting the Most Out of Life"
02-18-1914 - Pee Wee King - Abrams, WI - d. 3-7-2000
singer, songwriter, accordionist: "Grand Ole Opry"; "Pee Wee King Show"
03-06-1914 - Kiril Kondrashin - Moscow, Russia - d. 3-7-1981
conductor: "Van Cliburn Concert"
03-23-1910 - Paula Winslowe - Grafton, ND - d. 3-7-1996
actor: Peg Riley "Life of Riley"; Jill "Joe E. Brown Show"
03-25-1903 - Frankie Carle - Providence, RI - d. 3-7-2001
bandleader, pianist: "Pot o' Gold"; "Treasure Chest"
05-18-1904 - Jacob K. Javits - NYC - d. 3-7-1986
[removed] senator new york: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
05-24-1880- Arthur "Doc" Bagley - d. 3-7-1952
father of radio excercise programs
07-23-1910 - Nat Brandywine - NYC - d. 3-7-1978
pianist, bandleader: "Wonderful City"
08-21-1882 - Helen Carew - Kansas - d. 3-7-1980
actor: Vera Johnson "Stella Dallas"; "Mrs. Mitchell "Barry Cameron"
08-23-1924 - Frank Pacelli - d. 3-7-1997
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Sportsman Club"; "War Town"
09-12-1901 - Ben Blue - Montreal, Quebec, Canada - d. 3-7-1975
actor, comedian: "Hollywood Hotel"
10-20-1927 - Priscilla Lyon - Washington County, NC - d. 3-7-1980
actor: Corliss Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"; Amy Foster "Those We Love"
11-05-1879 - Will Hays - Sullivan, IN - d. 3-7-1954
puritanical censor: "Republican National Convention 1948"; "A Tribute
to FDR"
11-14-1926 - Leonie Rysanek - Vienna, Austria - d. 3-7-1998
soprano: "Metropolitan Opera"
12-24-1916 - Morton Fine - d. 3-7-1991
writer: "Bold Venture"; "Broadway Is My Beat"; "The Front Page"

Ron

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:10:31 -0500
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Cat Whisker or Cat's Whisker
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Hi Gang -

In recent issues there has been some discussion about Crystal Sets.
I built my first Crystal Set when I was about 10 years old in 1947 or
there-abouts.
I had a chunk of Galena and a Cat Whisker (and a single WWII surplus "R-14"
earphone).

Lately I have heard people refer to Cat Whiskers as "Cat's Whiskers".
My question is:  Is it a Cat Whisker  or is it a Cat's Whisker -- or are both
terms
correct?   I prefer Cat Whisker, because that's the way I learned it long
time ago.

Happy Taping (does anybody still use tape?)    Ken Piletic, W9ZMR --
Streamwood, IL

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