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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2008 : Issue 66
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  SPERDVAC convention May 2 ,3 ,4       [ bobb lynes <iairotr@[removed]; ]
  Article on Sound Archives             [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
  One Man's Family                      [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Mr. Clean touched many                [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Listening To Records                  [ skallisjr@[removed] ]
  We're Off to Cincy!                   [ "randy story" <hopharrigan@centuryt ]
  RE: An Occurrence at Golden Gate Bri  [ "Belpedio, Dr. James" <[removed] ]
  Mr Keen                               [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Sacred Cows                           [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Occurrence also [removed]!            [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  RE: The Barbours Squeaky clean???     [ Tony Bell <t_bell61@[removed]; ]
  St. Patrick's-Easter OTR Marathon     [ "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@[removed] ]
  the SPERDVAC convention for 2008      [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
  3-13 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Oasis Cigarettes                      [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Re: playing 78s                       [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:20:13 -0400
From: bobb lynes <iairotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  SPERDVAC convention May 2 ,3 ,4

Yes, there will be a SPERDVAC convention this year, coming up in May, thanks
to those members who
were just voted off the Board of Directors.

This past SPERDVAC Election day was a very surrealistic "happening".

Since it was the official annual membership meeting with ballot counting to
be done, I didn't invite a guest speaker to come and share his or her radio
memories with us. Instead I planned to show videos of radio shows that moved
to TV.   More and more of these gems are surfacing now, and I find them very
interesting, historically.

Scheduled to begin right at 12 noon, we were unable to, as President
Steinmetz had not arrived yet.
SPERDVAC's by-laws clearly state that  the President shall preside over the
annual
membership meeting  held the 2nd Saturday of March.  12:15 came and went,
still a no-show President or Vice-President. There being a majority of Board
members present, they convened and chose
an "interim" President to officially open and preside over the meeting.
These Board members (most of whom attend meetings regularly) were Walden
Hughes, Glenda Kelly, Don Aston, Jim Harmon and Frank
Bresee   They chose Don Aston to run the meeting until the President would
arrive.
Don Aston did a wonderful job!  It was a real breath of fresh air, offering
us a glimpse of a SPERDVAC that "might have been".   My major regret is
(since we had no guest) we didn't record it (audio or video) so that all
members could have witnessed it.  I believe Secretary Glenda Kelly took
notes, so the proceedings should be in the meeting minutes, any of which are
available to members.   I bet you didn't know that, did you?

Don opened the meeting officially and then threw the meeting open to the
members present.  What
followed was something I haven't seen or heard in too many of my 34 years in
SPERDVAC.  The attendees questioned, offered input and suggestions about
SPERDVAC , and especially commented about
the current SPERDVAC election.  It was what we've needed for too long a time.
It's too bad that the very gentlemen who should have heard the comments were
simply not there.   Steinmetz, Haefele, Struthers and Greenwald finally did
show up  about 2:30, after we had seen a couple of videos.  Soon, the
election committee emerged with the ballot count. Because of the lies and
innuendoes in some candidates' statements we lost three of the directors who
would have helped  SPERDVAC to regain its former standing in the OTR world.

As Activities Chair (and as former Board member and President) I want to take
this opportunity to personally thank you, Don Aston, for the magnificent job
you did that Saturday in March, 2008.  You helped open a window of truth  and
offered a few precious moments of sunshine on a cloudy SPERDVAC meeting.

Sadly, that cloud has settled on  SPERDVAC [removed]

See you at the Convention,

Bobb Lynes

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:20:50 -0400
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Article on Sound Archives
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An interesting article about sound archiving. Best way to see it is just to
'Google' [removed], and when the site appears go to Publications and
click on 'Tracking the Reel World' .
  Cheers !  Graeme Stevenson,  ORCA / UK

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:24:59 -0400
From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  One Man's Family

Re Bethany's reaction to One Man's Family: ditto here - again
with my kid's ears, but it left enough of an impression that I
wouldn't have more than one or two shows in my collection other
than to simply have an example of it.

Listening as a kid, it was like watching molasses in January ...
soooo sloooowwww. And growing up in West Texas (hardscrabble
ranches, farms with sandstorms and tornadoes) it was also hard to
identify the fog-enshrouded wealthy Sea Cliff residents. Father
Barbour was always in the library. To us the library was ...
well, you know.

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:25:32 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Mr. Clean touched many

Of the Barbour clan of One Man's Family, Bethany Rutledge writes:

I don't think I've ever come across
another family so squeaky clean and one-dimensional in
radio or television.

Has she never heard/seen any episodes of The Adventures of Ozzie and
Harriet, December Bride, Father Knows Best, The Goldbergs, Mama, My Son
Jeep, Pepper Young's Family, The Woman in My House, et [removed]

Jim Cox

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:26:12 -0400
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Listening To Records

KC0PWA asks,

I've picked up several dozen 78 records over the past
couple years and would like to listen to them, at
least once. I've read one should never use a regular
record player, even an older one with 78 capabilities.
Do any readers have suggestions for how to enjoy these
records without harming them or the player?

Well, records were designed to be played, and on turntables.  The older
78 RPM players had rather heavy stylus arms, but the multispeed players
had ones with a lighter touch.  Recently, some new table-model units have
come on the market with turntables as well as CD and cassette readers,
and these have stylus arms with rekatively light pressures.  IMHO, the
"best" way to listen to old records of any type is to thay them once and
record them, preferably with an electronic connection, on another medium.
 I recently picked up a copy of "Hear It Now," and immediately
transferred it to cassette.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:26:18 -0400
From: "randy story" <hopharrigan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  We're Off to Cincy!
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Sing with me, radio friends!
(To the tune of "we're Off to See the Wizard!")
Ohhhhhh, we're off to Cincinnati!
What wonderful place it is!
If ever there was a convention near
The Cincy Con is one
Because
Because
Because
Of the wonderful things it is!
:)
Oh, well. I'm no lyricist, folks.
I've got my roommate, my days off have been approved, and it looks okay(ONLY
[removed] am a public school teach after all) financially for a change.
I hope to see everyone there.
By the by, I am now teaching a folklore class to seniors at dear old West
Plains High School and I was also wondering if any of our digesters might now
of OTR related resources, books, or the like with Ozark-themed materials/
plots. characters, [removed]
Let me know soon, please.

Blessings:)
R. Story

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:27:14 -0400
From: "Belpedio, Dr. James" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: An Occurrence at Golden Gate Bridge

Hello.
I am responding to the query about the connection between Vertigo and An
Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge. Those familiar with Bierce's story know
that the entire story takes place during the one or two seconds between
the commencement of the hanging and the moment that the rope becomes
taut and the execution is complete. The story is what flashed through
the condemned man's mind in that split second.
In Vertigo, there are a number of plot inconsistencies and
improbabilities that are unexplained, including the McKittrick Hotel
scene, the intricacies of the killing of the first Madeleine, the
inability of an experienced detective to unravel the scheme, Scottie's
obsession with Madeleine/Judy, a man with severe back injuries carryinh
Madeleine out of the Bay, and others. The story begins when Scottie
falls off the roof and ends with him poised to fall - or jump -  off the
roof of the chapel at the mission. If one considers the surrealistic
elements of the plot, which  is nearly all of it, as merely what flashed
through Scottie's mind while he was falling in the establishing scene,
and before he hits the ground, it appears to be an unraveling of the
plot in the same format as the story in Owl Creek Bridge. I ran across a
similar analysis in a film journal also some years ago that was based on
the same assumption.

Nevertheless, the story would be ideal for series like Suspense or
Escape. Bierce himself was a devout pessimist who firmly believed that
at birth, every person was issued a death sentence.

JBelpedio
Worcester, MA

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:27:38 -0400
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Mr Keen

I had no idea my simple Mr Keen question would generate so much comment,
but it's been very interesting.  While there were significant
exceptions, my completely non-scientific survey of the responses seem to
show people falling into one of two major camps: Those who remember Mr
Keen from their youth and still look upon the show kindly, and those who
discovered the show much later and who, shall we say, don't regard it so
favorably.

Regardless, I really enjoyed reading all of the responses, especially
Jim Cox's answer/plug.  It was both informative AND an effective sales
pitch, as his Mr Keen volume has made its way on to my lengthy and
growing "books to buy" list.  So mission accomplished.

Booked and ready for Cincy,
Chris "Castile" Holm

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:55:32 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sacred Cows

From: Bethany Rutledge _bsr_mmr@[removed]_ (mailto:bsr_mmr@[removed])

I'm listening to "One  Man's Family" for the first time
this winter ... ACK! ... Any  thoughts?

Dear Bethany-

One suggestion: duck!

Best,
-Craig W.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:00:07 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Occurrence also [removed]!

Citations for "Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" have included Suspense and
Escape, but it also was done by CBS Radio Mystery Theater in their usual
52-minute format.

The date for that version is 6/4/74, and it was repeated two more times with
a cast of stars.

Ted Kneebone. 1528 S. Grant St., Aberdeen, SD 57401
Phone:  605-226-3344. Email: tkneebone1@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:29:14 -0400
From: Tony Bell <t_bell61@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: The Barbours Squeaky clean???
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 Bethany Rutledge said:

I'm listening to "One Man's Family" for the first time
this winter. I've read so many good things about it
over the years, so I was looking forward to its
arrival with much [removed] Alas, I cannot stand
the Barbours! I don't think I've ever come across
another family so squeaky clean and one-dimensional in
radio or television. ACK! I've only listened to the
first 25 or so episodes, so maybe I'll warm up to them
soon. I'd really like [removed] Any thoughts?

Well, Bethany, if you have only heard the first 25 or so, you have a long way
to go!! Of the material that exists today, the really good stuff
doesn't begin, IMO, until the late 40's or early 50's.  Wait until you meet
Joan, Claudia's eldest daughter.  Or Pinky and all the shenanigans he
gets into.  The cutting edge material turns up in the late 50's with Joan's
divorce and remarriage, Penelope's affair with a married man and Dan
Murray's business dealings, just to name a few.

I adore "One Man's Family", and one reason is because while it might seem kind
of boring at first, the storyline did actually evolve with the times
and addresses many topics that our society was dealing with, particularly post
WWII.  Alcoholism, juvenile delinquency and  women's changing role in
the workplace are among what you will hear discussed in the later years.

As you might already know, the show lasted about 27 years, and there aren't a
lot of existing episodes until about 1949, but there are enough around to
sort
of get the gist of who everyone is. After that, there is much more material
and there are whole story lines that are preserved until the end in 1959.  My
advice is to
give it some time, and hang in there until you can get a lot of continuous
episodes and get a real feel for the characters.  I think despite the
conservative nature
of some of the main players, like the inimitable Father Barbour, you will find
this family is anything but squeaky clean!!

Tony Bell

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:28:56 -0400
From: "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@[removed];
To: "oldtime radio digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  St. Patrick's-Easter OTR Marathon
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        Hello Old Time Radio Fans,
On Saturday March 15 and Sunday March 16, 2008, we shall be playing wonderful
old time radio shows from St. patrick's Day and Easter.  For more information,
go to: [removed].  If you wish to write to me privately,
please write to Robert Acosta at boacosta@[removed].  Thank you.

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:48:56 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  the SPERDVAC convention for 2008

Hi Everybody,

the SPERDVAC old Time Radio convention will be during the week end of Friday
May 2 through Sunday May 4 at the Sportmen,s Lodge in Studio City.  Many
funs things are being plan this year.  Panels includes Movie star Coleen
Gray talking about her days on Lux Radio Theater, a Lone Ranger panel with
Fred Foy and Dick Beals, Bob Mills who wrote for Bob Hope for 17 years,
Peter Ford the Son of Glenn Ford talking about his parent career, and a
music panel featuring Ray Briem, and Marilyn King.  Some of the shows
includes the Lone Ranger with Fred Foy, Jack Benny with Eddie Carroll, Great
Gildersleeves with Shirley Mitchell, Tom Mix with Tommy Cook, the Fatman,
Easy Ases, and Ethel and Albert.  Over 20 radio personalities will be there.
You can look at an order form at [removed] or drop an email at
Walden1@[removed] or call (714) 454-3281

Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:56:43 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  3-13 births/deaths

March 13th births

03-13-1873 - Nellie Revell - Springfield, IL - d. 8-12-1958
commentator: "Neighbor Nell"; "Meet the Artist"
03-13-1878 - Katherine Emmett - San Francisco, CA - d. 6-6-1960
actor: Agatha Anthone "The Romance of Helen Trent"
03-13-1892 - Janet Flanner - Indianapolis, IN - d. 11-7-1978
reporter: "Listen, The Women"
03-13-1896 - Leona Powers - Salida, CO - d. 1-7-1970
actor: Mrs. Bixby "My Son Jeep"; [removed] Brown "Aldrich Family"
03-13-1898 - Donald MacDonald - Denison, TX - d. 12-9-1959
actor: Willie the Weep "Big Town"
03-13-1898 - Henry Hathaway - Sacramento, CA - d. 2-11-1985
film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
03-13-1900 - George Kondolf - d. 12-xx-1985
producer: "Theatre Guild on the Air"
03-13-1900 - Harry W. Flannery - Greensburg, PA - d. 3-10-1975
newscaster: Foreign correspondent in Berlin for CBS during WWII
03-13-1903 - Charles D. Livingstone - d. 7-28-1986
producer, director: "Lone Ranger"; "Green Hornet"; "Challenge of the
Yukon"
03-13-1905 - Dick Wells - d. 2-xx-1968
announcer: "Ma Perkins"; "Painted Dreams"; "Right to Happiness"
03-13-1905 - Louis Roen - Marengo, WI - d. 2-15-1993
announcer: "Today's Children"; "The Breakfast Club"
03-13-1907 - Frank Wilcox - DeSoto, MO - d. 3-3-1974
actor: Father "Central City"
03-13-1908 - Paul Stewart - NYC - d. 2-17-1986
actor: Gyp Mendoza "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Richard Rogue "Rogue's
Gallery"
03-13-1909 - Herbert Kline - Davenport, IA - d. 2-5-1999
worked for a loyalist radio station in Madrid during the Spanish
revolution
03-13-1910 - Frank Gabrielson - New York - d. 1-24-1980
writer: "The Cavalcade of America"
03-13-1910 - Sammy Kaye - Lakewood, OH - d. 6-2-1987
bandleader: (Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye) "Sunday Serenade"
03-13-1911 - James T. Quirk - d. 1-18-1969
announcer, station program director Philadelphia, PA
03-13-1911 - L. Ron Hubbard - Tilden, NE - d. 1-24-1986
science fiction writer: "Dimension X"
03-13-1913 - Harold J. Stone - NYC - d. 11-18-2005
actor: Sergeant Waters "21st Precinct"
03-13-1914 - Bob Haggart - NYC - d. 12-3-1998
bass: "The Bob Crosby Show"; "Eddie Condon's Jaxx Concerts"
03-13-1914 - Bob Weiskopf - Chicago, IL - d. 2-20-2001
writer: "The Fred Allen Show"
03-13-1914 - Glen Gordon - NYC - d. 9-16-1977
actor: Dr. Fu Manchu "The Shadow of Fu Manchu"
03-13-1918 - Ina Ray Hutton - Chicago, IL - d. 2-19-1984
bandleader: "Spotlight Bands"
03-13-1919 - William Ormond Mitchell - Weyburn, Canada - d. 2-25-1998
radio dramatist: "Jake and the Kid"
03-13-1920 - Bill Allbaugh - d. 4-xx-1985
sportscaster: KASI Ames, Iowa
03-13-1953 - Milwaukee Braves - Boston, MA - d. 10-1-1965
Only franchise in the history of sport never to have had a losing season

March 13th deaths

01-13-1909 - Danny Barker - New Orleans, LA - d. 3-13-1994
jazz guitar: "This Is Jazz"
01-20-1898 - Tudor Owen - Wales, UK - d. 3-13-1979
actor: Jocko Madigan "Pat Novak for Hire"; Editor "Alias Jane Doe"
03-15-1907 - Jimmy McPartland - Chicago, IL - d. 3-13-1991
jazz artist: "Doctor Jazz"; "Town Hall Concert"
04-11-1911 - Robert Saudek - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 3-13-1997
television producer: Established the Museum of Television and Radio
04-18-1857 - Clarence Darrow - Kinsman, OH - d. 3-13-1938
lawyer: " Scopes "Monkey" trial, WGN Chicago"
04-28-1911 - Lee Falk - St. Louis, MO - d. 3-13-1999
writer: "Mandrake the Magician"
06-21-1925 - Maureen Stapleton - Troy, NY - d. 3-13-2006
actor: "Best Plays"
07-21-1895 - Ken Maynard - Vevey, IN - d. 3-13-1973
cowboy actor: Ken Maynard Show"
07-22-1898 - Stephen Vincent Benet - Bethlehem, PA - d. 3-13-1943
writer: "Columbia Workshop"
07-26-1918 - Stacy Harris - Big Timber, Quebec, Canada - d. 3-13-1973
actor: Jim Taylor "This is Your [removed]"; Carter Trent "Pepper Young's
Family"
08-08-1889 - Major J. Andrew White - d. 3-13-1966
Pioneer announcer, sportscaster and executive
10-18-1901 - Annette Hanshaw - NYC - d. 3-13-1985
singer: "Show Boat"; "Camel Caravan"
11-24-1912 - Garson Kanin - Rochester, NY - d. 3-13-1999
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-03-1913 - Bill Green - Massachusetts - d. 3-13-2005
pianist: "Matinee with Bob and Ray"; "Stumpus"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:47:20 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Oasis Cigarettes
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A friend of mine said on the radio during the 1950s, when Oasis Cigarettes was
advertised, there was a slogan in the commercials.
"They taste good."
To me, that seems very genric and not something catchy that people would
remember, recall or repeat.  Is his memory correct or was there a different
slogan?

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:12:48 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: playing 78s
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Ryan asked whether 78s should not be played on older record players.  The
usual advice is not to play them on antique wind-up acoustical machines.  We
use duplicate and common records to demonstrate those machines.  Three-speed
electrical phonographs from the 1950s onward would be perfectly safe, as would
modern hi-fi component turntables if they have the 78 speed.  You would have
to use a different stylus from that used on LPs and 45s.  The needle points
for the 78 groove (as well as for most 16-inch transcriptions) are three times
wider than for microgrooves on LPs and 45s.  Using a microgroove needle on a
78 would result in a noisy and fuzzy sound as the needle skitters around in
the wide groove.  There are several dealers with info pages and supplies, such
as Kurt Nauck at [removed]  and Kevin A Barrett at [removed] .  Usual
disclaimers apply except that these guys are friends of mine.

Michael Biel   mbiel@[removed]

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