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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 264
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
8-11 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
recording restoration [ "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed]. ]
re: "The Day the Earth Stood Still" [ "Gary Johnson" <garyj@imagesjournal ]
The Day the Earth Stood Still [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Re: Singing Commercials [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Richard Diamond script book query [ passage@[removed] ]
Titles of radio and/or tv episodes [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
The Day the Earth Stood Still [ "Jan Krzok" <jkrzok@[removed]; ]
PHC on film? [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
digital scanning of sound [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
The Day The Earth Stood Still [ Roger Lorette <roger@[removed]; ]
mirror [ "Nicoll" <Nicoll@[removed]; ]
Andy Griffith vs. Lum and Abner [ "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed]; ]
Re: Sixties stories [ Troubadourfilms@[removed] ]
Corwin on Fred Allen? [ Richard Fish <fish@lodestone-media. ]
Re: Day the Earth Stood Still [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
storytelling program [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
Mayberry/ Pine Ridge connection [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
Re: Set of Radio Shows [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
Re:singing commercials [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Re: Mayberry ties to OTR [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
sam spade [ edcarr@[removed] ]
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:20:07 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-11 births/deaths
August 11th births
08-11-1891 - Helen Broderick - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-25-1959
actress: (Mother of Broderick Crawford) "Shell Chateau"
08-11-1902 - Lloyd Nolan - San Francisco, CA - d. 9-27-1985
actor: Johnny Strange "Results Inc."; Martin Kane "Martin Kane, Private Eye"
08-11-1915 - Jean Parker - Deer Lodge, MT
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-11-1928 - Arlene Dahl - Minneapolis, MN
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre". Hollywood Stars on Stage"; "Philip Morris
Playhouse"
August 11th deaths
06-24-1904 - Phil Harris - Linton, IN - d. 8-11-1995
bandleader, singer: "Jack Benny Program"; "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
08-05-1918 - Tom Drake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 8-11-1982
actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Proudly We Hail"
09-08-1913 - Patricia Wilder - Macon, GA - d. 8-11-1995
actress: Honey Chile "Bob Hope Show"
12-19-1924 - Rex Barney - Omaha, NE - d. 8-11-1997
baseball color man: "Game of the Day"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:22:11 -0400
From: "Joe Cline" <joeunited@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: recording restoration
Mark sez:
The results from scanning old recordings are quite dramatic, and have
improved a lot since 2002 - you can find some examples and information at:
[removed]~av/
The latest news on this subject came last week, when it was announced that
this technology was to be used to try to "clean up" the worn Dictaphone belt
containing the only known audio recording of the 1963 Kennedy assassination.
The National Archives had forbade further playing of the belt using a stylis
because of the degredation of the recording.
Joe Cline ([removed])
Charlotte
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:22:23 -0400
From: "Gary Johnson" <garyj@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: re: "The Day the Earth Stood Still" on radio
To answer Steve Salaba's question:
Lux Radio Theater did a production of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL on
January 4, 1954.
I believe this is the only radio production of this sci-fi classic.
Best,
Gary Johnson
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:22:59 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Day the Earth Stood Still
Steve Salaba asked about "The Day the Earth Stood Still" being dramatized on
radio, and that he heard it as an Armed Forces Radio Service rebroadcast for
troops stationed overseas.
The network "on-air" broadcast does exist, as well as the AFRS rebroadcast,
and what Steve listened to was the AFRS version - same recording, just
without the Lux commercials and an added announcement about the AFRS.
"The Day The Earth Stood Still" was dramatized on THE LUX RADIO THEATRE on
January 4, 1951 with Michael Rennie reprising the role of the other-worldly
visitor from outer space whose mission is to spread a message about
mankind's decision to ultimately face total destruction. Small bits of
trivia: Paul Frees was the narrator for the drama, adding a sense of
importance to the drama's closing moral. Frees was also the narrator for
two science-fiction films of the 1950s AFTER the LUX broadcast, WHEN WORLDS
COLLIDE and WAR OF THE WORLDS, making LUX a pre-attempt to narrate a sci-fi
story.
The late Tyler McVey was in the cast of the movie version of THE DAY THE
EARTH STOOD STILL as a soldier and for the LUX version, McVey was also a
member of the cast.
The role of Bobby Benson, the young boy who befriended the visitor from
Outer Space was played by Billy Gray (still alive and kicking), a child
actor who reprised the same role for the radio version as he had for the
movie version.
Martin Grams
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:23:21 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Singing Commercials
On 8/10/04 12:18 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I suspect that I may be opening the proverbial can of worms here, but was
this really the first singing radio commercial? I'm always suspicious of
"world's first" things, since they seem to be open to so much debate. Is it
even possible to pin down the first singing commercial? Are there other
contenders for this title? Anyone want to shed some light on very early
radio advertising practices?
It's been claimed that the "Have You Tried Wheaties?" jingle was first
used around 1926 on WCCO, Minneapolis, then owned by Washburn Crosby
Company, the makers of that cereal, but I've never seen proof of this
claim. (By 1933, this jingle was used with slightly altered lyrics, as
the closing theme for "Jack Armstrong.") But it's quite probable that
this wasn't the first, because singing commercials weren't a sudden
innovation. Nobody invented them -- they evolved.
Musical themes with a link to the product dated back to the 1923-25 era,
and such original compositions as the "Cliquot March," for Harry Reser's
Clicquot Club Eskimos or the appropriation for commercial purposes of
such pre-existing compositions as "Smiles," used as a theme by the Ipana
Troubadours -- S. C. Lanin, Director. One of the first vocal examples of
this genre of musical theme song was the use of "Brighten The Corner
Where You Are" as the theme for Harvey Hindemeyer and Earle Tuckerman,
[removed] Goldy and Dusty, The Gold Dust Twins. The opening announcement for
their Red Network program clearly tied the theme song to the product, by
suggesting that Gold Dust Washing Poweder really did "brighten the
corners." Strictly speaking these theme songs weren't commercials -- but
they got the point across.
1928-1930 was the period which really led to the flowering of the
"singing commercial theme song" idea -- in part as a way to get around
NBC's lingering restrictions on direct advertising in nighttime shows.
During this time, the names of sponsors and specific product plugs were
being inserted into the theme songs of many programs. Some examples were
"Hello! Hello! The R-K-O!" which each week opened the Radio Pictures
Hour; "On The Road To Sunshine" (or, "Sunshine Vitamin Yeast") which was
used as the theme for Rudy Vallee's Fleischmann's Yeast Hour until Vallee
insisted otherwise; "Oh, My! It's Eskimo Pie!," which cued the adventures
of the Jenkins Family over CBS beginning in the fall of 1930; and
"Tastyeast Is Tempting," which beginning in 1930 introduced Dwight
Latham, Wamp Carlson, and Guy Bonham as the Tastyeast Jesters. Billy
Jones and Ernie Hare, of course, were early practitioners of the singing
theme song, and by 1929 were integrating Interwoven Socks into the lyrics
of "How Do You Do Everybody, How Do You Do?" as they would continue to do
with subsequent sponsors.
There were many other such "singing commercial" theme songs during this
early era -- these are just ones that immediately come to mind. But the
idea of commercial messages set to music was well established long before
the craze for free-standing singing jingles hit in the late thirties.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:24:08 -0400
From: passage@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Richard Diamond script book query
Hi All,
I got this query from Patricia Hauseman <projectbb@[removed];:
- --
I came across a richard diamond dark blue bound book
that had typewritten pages (also says camel cigarettes
on the front, then april-june 1951). In it were the
scripts from all of the richard diamond radio shows
from that time frame.
<snip>
could you tell me what these usually run? it's not
in good shape.
- --
Frank
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:24:28 -0400
From: Jer51473@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Titles of radio and/or tv episodes
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I know all the dramatic shows had specific titles, but did the comedy shows?
I read logs now of amos n andy, andy griffith, lum n abner, dick van dyke, my
favorite husband, etc. and they all have titles for each episode. I can
understand why this is necessary today, but did these episodes actually have
titles
when they first aired? Also, does each episode have an official title or are
the titles "made up" by whoever is advertising their wares? I do not remember
most of these episodes having titles.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:24:37 -0400
From: "Jan Krzok" <jkrzok@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The Day the Earth Stood Still
In response to Doug Leary's query (Sorry, had to do it) Lux Radio Theatre
did a dramatization of the film in January 1954. I also have an undated
version from a show called Hollywood Radio Theatre
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:25:01 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: PHC on film?
If this piece had appeared on April 1, I wouldn't have
believed it. Apparently Garrison Keillor's "A Prairie
Home Companion" is being developed for a film,
starring (among others) Meryl Streep, Lily Tomlin, Tom
Waits and Lyle Lovett:
[removed]
Kermyt
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:25:26 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: digital scanning of sound
This is slightly off-topic, but since people have been
ruminating about digital scanning technology again,
I'll toss this in. Last week there was a piece in the
NY Times on using digital scanning technology to
re-analyze the only audio reoording of Kennedy's
assassination. I meant to post this at the time, but
got caught up in other things, and now it requires
paying a fee to read in the archives. (Or heading down
to your local library to see the physical version of
the paper.)
Kermyt
[removed]
2
Tape of Kennedy's Killing Is Getting Digital Analysis
By MICHAEL JANOFSKY (NYT) words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 14 , Column 1
DISPLAYING FIRST 50 OF WORDS - About a year from now,
one of the most vexing mysteries in American history
may finally be solved: Did Lee Harvey Oswald act ...
Scientists at the Lawrence Berkeley National
Laboratory have begun work on a digital scanning
apparatus that they believe will be able to reproduce
sound from [removed]
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:25:56 -0400
From: Roger Lorette <roger@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Day The Earth Stood Still
Steve Salaba [removed]
I happened to tune in to an internet radio station today just in
time to hear the last part of a radio dramatization of the 1952
science fiction film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" which starred
the same actor who played "Klaatu" in the film, Michael Rennie.
If I can answer this [removed] must be easy.
At least one of the radio airings of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was on
the "Lux Theater" program broadcast on Jan 04, 1954.
There may have been others.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:35:08 -0400
From: "Nicoll" <Nicoll@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: mirror
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The other day, in a flea market, I ran across a mirror(17"X24" w/wooden frame)
with advertising on it:
PHILCO
(Picture of cathedral radio)
ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCTS
PHILCO
CONSUMER ELECTRONICS CORPORATION
My question is: Is it worth the $[removed] I paid for it?
Will Nicoll
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:37:39 -0400
From: "Philip Adams" <padams33@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Andy Griffith vs. Lum and Abner
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With all these postings concerning my all-time favorite TV show, The Andy
Griffith Show, I am reminded of something I've wondered about for many
years: Were Andy Griffith and/or his writers fans of the Lum and Abner
radio show?
I don't know whether Andy Griffith's writers were fans but I distinctly
remember hearing a joke on a rerun of "Green Acres" which compared something
to being like Lum and Abner. While audiences today probably would have little
idea what they are referring to (unless they are like us) the audiences of the
mid-60s probably still remembered the old boys fondly since L & A had only
left the airwaves a little more than a decade before at that point.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:38:08 -0400
From: Troubadourfilms@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Sixties stories
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While I can't speak for this program in particular, the first story that you
mentioned was told by Ken Nordine on one of his word jazz albums. Ken does
has a very deep voice and sounds great telling spooky stories.
One of my favorites is The Fibberty Jib. I hope this helps.
Rob Hindman
Kneeland Ca.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:22:50 -0400
From: Richard Fish <fish@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Corwin on Fred Allen?
Norman Corwin appeared as the guest on Fred Allen's program on Sunday,
May 14, 1944. Leroy Bannerman's biography of Corwin says,
"...he narrated 'Jack and Jull' as a burlesqued representation of his
own radio production techniques. Variety commented that it 'provided
mirthful listening, while actually being a tacit kudo for the CBS
producer.'"
Does anyone know of a copy of this program survives?
I would love to get my hands on this, and send a copy on to Norman. I do
not believe he has one.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Thank you,
Richard Fish
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:35:43 -0400
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Day the Earth Stood Still
At 12:18 PM 8/10/2004, you wrote:
I'm wondering what program it may have
originally been on.
Steve, the story was dramatized on Lux Radio Theater on January 4th, 1954.
It was an adaptation by Milton Geiger of the screenplay as many of the Lux
programs were. Those in the cast include Michael Rennie, Jean Peters, Paul
Frees, Lamont Johnson, Herb Butterfield, Tudor Owens, Billy Gray, Edith
Evanson, Tyler McVey, William Conrad, Robert Griffin, Tom Brown, Fred
Shields, Marvin Bryan, Shep Mencken and others.
Of course, the film was based very loosely on Harry Bates short story
"Farewell to the Master."
It is identified in my old book co-authored with Meade Frierson III:
Science Fiction on Radio: A Revised Look at 1950-1975 published in the
ancient years of 1996.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:36:17 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: storytelling program
Another was about a house
burning down, and in the house a stove furiously kept making pancakes as
the
place burned down.
To add to the general chorus, this story is "There will come soft rains," by
Ray Bradbury, featured in the collection, _The Martian Chronicles."
My favorite part is a description of the outside wall of the house after the
nuclear attack on the city. The whole wall was charred except for white
paint silhouettes of a man cutting the grass, a woman with a tray serving
what was presumably cookies and lemonade, and two kids throwing a ball that
never came down.
M Kinsler
their dog survived and is featured in the story
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:48:51 -0400
From: "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mayberry/ Pine Ridge connection
Michael Leannah poses the question, "was Andy Griffith and/or his writers
fans of Lum n' Abner?"
They must have been. Tim Hollis has looked into the many similarities of
Mayberry and Pine Ridge and their respective inhabitants in his well-written
newsletter for the National Lum n' Abner Society.
Contact Tim at hollis1963@[removed] and tell him that "Honrary Mimber" Bobb
Lynes sent you.
Bobb
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:49:10 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Set of Radio Shows
We just purchased some radio shows packaged in a very nice vinyl album.
There are 40 cassettes and the front cover says 40 shows. The programs include:
Abbott and Costello
Amos and Andy
Burns and Allen
Fibber McGee and Molly
The Great Gildersleeve
The Bickersons
Jack Benny
Lum and Abner
Sherlock Holmes
The Green Hornet
I Love Adventure
Lights Out
The Haunting Hour
Gangbusters
This is Your FBI
Tales of the Texas Rangers
Hopalong Cassidy
The Mysterious Traveler
Duffy's Tavern
We are planning to bring them to NJ to sell at our dealer's table, but if
anyone is interested, we could sell a few by mail. This would certainly
make a nice gift for someone that enjoys OTR but don't have a big collection.
Email me directly for more information.
Fred
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:49:25 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:singing commercials
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In a message dated 8/10/04 12:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
I suspect that I may be opening the proverbial can of worms here, but was
this really the first singing radio commercial?
Much of what I'm about to describe is "that's what I heard" kind of stuff,
I'm hoping someone will correct me or fill in the holes.
I always heard the Wheaties jingle was recorded as a record, and either sold
or given away, and someone happened to play it on the radio as part of a show
sponsored by Wheaties or with a sponsorship tie to the brand. If so, I have
to question that it's the first, as I once saw an old catalog from Sears
showing off a 78 rpm of what appeared to be a Moxie jingle (Moxie being a
drink of
some kind) and that one dated to around 1921. Then again, I have no idea if
the "Moxie" song was ever played, or if the Moxie people ever paid anyone to
play it.
I've also heard the Happiness Boys introducing themselves as "the Interwoven
Pair" in their opening theme, as the world's first singing commercial, and
Groucho Marx once claimed someone acquainted with him wrote the first-ever
advertising jingle for something called Birely's Orange Juice.
The oldest ones I personally have ever heard was the Wheaties jingle, both
alone and in the closing moments of a 1935 "Jack Armstrong" broadcast, and I
have heard the "Interwoven Pair" (and for that matter Tasty Breadwinners)
opening
theme, not to mention the old "Tastyeast is tempting" jingle."
Dixon
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:49:40 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Mayberry ties to OTR
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In a message dated 8/10/04 12:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
If I were to meet Andy Griffith I
would ask him if he listened to Lum and Abner in his younger days.
Actually I have always heard "Vic and Sade" had more of a direct influence on
"The Andy Griffith Show," as far as its humor, its writing and its style.
One example I hear brought up to drive this point home: Barney and Andy
discussing in detail how and why Barney wears hats as low as he does. Many
of the
writers were believed to be fans, and of course as mentioned earlier, one
writer
was none other than Bill Idelson.
Dixon
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:58:43 -0400
From: edcarr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: sam spade
hi
quick note, the new sam spade "the
chargogagogman-chogagogchabuna caper"
is ready, if interested in obtaining a copy
email edcarr@[removed]
for those who do, the next new show will be
a col flax, i will also put on an extra new
show with that, this time w/sam the other
shows aren't/ weren't ready yet.
ed
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