Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #189
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 6/13/2001 12:05 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 189
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Trading etiquette                    ["Dominick Cancilla" <cancilla@[removed]]
 Libby = Livvy ?                      ["Dixon H. Chandler II" <dchandler@n]
 Suspense question : Lady in Distress ["Dixon H. Chandler II" <dchandler@n]
 Amanda Randolph                      [Udmacon@[removed]                    ]
 #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [lois@[removed]                  ]
 TARZAN on radio.                     ["[removed]" <[removed]]
 Re: Our Own Flubs                    [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 Backwards Tapes                      [danhughes@[removed]                 ]
 Sorry, Wrong Coast                   [Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed];]
 Johnny Dollar five-part              ["Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb.]
 voices of Hap                        ["Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb.]
 The Joys of Found Trivia             ["Tim Ballew" <timballew@[removed]]
 Re: SUSPENSE's Hap                   [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
 Bob Hope in Australia                ["The Lovely Rod" <tlr@[removed]; ]
 re: Back In Nagasaki                 ["J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];]
 Suspense question                    ["Tom and Katja" <kattom@[removed]]
 Re: Arlene Harris                    [Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed]]
 Morse's estate                       [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 Life of Riley                        [Richard Veit <Richard_Veit@[removed]]
 KRA Conclave                         [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 Buffalo                              [otrbuff@[removed]                   ]
 answers                              ["Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];]

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:12:44 -0400
From: "Dominick Cancilla" <cancilla@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Trading etiquette

Despite possible appearances, this question ISN'T about copyrights. (I'm
sure some of you will be pleased to hear that!)

I have never traded OTR, but instead have purchased my collection on
cassettes from a variety of dealers. Because of this, I haven't any idea
what the accepted etiquette is between traders. What I'm wondering is, when
shows are traded, is it considered polite/acceptable for a trader to "clean
up" or otherwise modify a show before trading it to someone else, or are
shows supposed to be kept in their original condition? And if cleaning is
okay, what about restoring parts of a show that are missing (beginnings,
endings, maybe commercials) or combining shows from more than one source
into a single, complete copy? And if any of this is okay, should the person
being traded to be informed of the modifications?

The question comes to mind because a few years ago I purchased a fistful of
tapes from a dealer, and after listening to them I was convinced that he was
(at least in some cases) using other people's cleaned-up copies instead of
copies recorded from his own masters. I stopped doing business with him
because, in a retail setting, this seemed wrong to me. However, it's
entirely possible that among traders this is acceptable behavior.

Before anyone asks -- there were three reasons I suspected that I was
purchasing tapes that had been duped from commercial copies: 1) The shows
paired on cassette by this dealer very often matched shows paired on
cassette by other dealers.  2) A tape that was an anthology of OTR
commercials was identical to a tape of commercials I'd purchased from
another dealer.  3) On one of the tapes I purchased, each show was preceded
by a brief reading of a catalog number ([removed], "C326") which matched the
catalog number used by another dealer (and this other dealer often recorded
catalog numbers on their tapes.)

While we're on the subject, if there are any other rules of trading
etiquette, I'd be interested in hearing them.

Thanks for the info!

--Dominick

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:46:04 -0400
From: "Dixon H. Chandler II" <dchandler@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Libby = Livvy ?

 I was listening to a Sam Spade show - "The Dick Foley Caper" - 9/26/48.
At
the end of the show Sam (Howard Duff) says "Goodnight Libby". There is a


I always thought Sam (in this episode) said, "Goodnight, Livvy," as an
in-joke parody of the way Phil Harris always greeted Mary Livingston on The
Jack Benny Program:  "Hello, Livvy!"

-dc

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:46:01 -0400
From: "Dixon H. Chandler II" <dchandler@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Suspense question : Lady in Distress

In the 1947 Suspense episode, "Lady in Distress," Ava Gardner stops in at a
diner with Howard Duff. She asks the attendant if she can use a pay phone.
The attendant follows her to the phone, annoying her with: "It's right
there, lady, that's the pay phone, right over there, lady. You gonna make a
call, lady?"

Gardner responds: "OK, I see it. Who do you think you are, Orson Welles?"

What's the joke here?  It SOUNDS a little bit like Orson Welles.

-dc

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:26:41 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Amanda Randolph

I clearly remember Amanda Randolph appearing in a daily fifteen minute
pioneer telecast in the late 40s, billed simply as "Amanda." It was on
weekday mornings over WABD, the DuMont TV station in New York that pioneered
in daytime televsion (at least from 10:30 [removed] to 2 [removed]!).

On the show, Amanda played the piano and sang songs. I later immediately
recognized her as Mama on the TV version of "Amos & Andy."

Bill Knowlton, "BLUEGRASS RAMBLE," WCNY-FM: Syracuse, Utica, Watertown NY
(since Jan. 1973). Sundays, 9 pm est: [removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:52:00 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over four years, same time, same channel!

Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
"Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

and Me

Lois Culver
KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
and widow of actor Howard Culver

(For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:18:07 -0400
From: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  TARZAN on radio.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:34 -0400, Bruce Salen
<BXSBM@[removed]; wrote:

Edgar Rice Burroughs is my favorite author.

I've been told that there were, in fact, two TARZAN radio programs --
one
in the 1930's, with Jim Pierce as Tarzan and Joan Burroughs Pierce as
Jane;
the second was in the early 1950's.

Are any of you familiar with either of these two programs?

There were three serials produced in the 1930s (1932, 1934, and circa
1936-8) and about 75 half-hour episodes (early 1950s).

For an introduction to the serials, see "Tarzan of the Air"
( [removed] ) and "Tarzan on (and off)
Radio" ([removed] ).

A review of the first dozen episodes of the 1950s series is available at
[removed]

Are any episodes from either program available for purchase by fans?

Adventures in Cassettes brought out two of the three serials (complete)
and all but about 15 of the 1950s series.  I believe Radio Spirits has
reissued many of these.

Patrick H. Adkins, publisher
FORGOTTEN TALES OF LOVE AND MURDER by Edgar Rice
Burroughs
[removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:02 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Our Own Flubs

OK.  So we admit to having made misteaks, er, mistakes on the air.  But
how many of you have had the guts to post a recording of them on the
net? Huh?  Well, __I__ have.

All the way down at the bottom of
[removed]  you will find a blooper
section.  The one in question that I was responsible for is the second
one, but please remember that this was about 35 years ago.

I should add that fellow OTR-D listmember Mike Muderick and I heartily
recommend the last set of bloopers in that section from Ellie Menna's
"Children's Corner".  Ellie is still a dear, sweet lady, and Muderick
and I still love to kid her about this immoral, er, immortal program.  I
am glad to have a chance to share this with you.  And she will kill me.
Ed Cunningham who is heard on this program became her husband, and is
the voice of Philadelphia Public TV.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:04 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Backwards Tapes

Jim Stokes' story about backwards classical music reminded me of this
episode:

Here in Champaign/Urbana, IL, the culmination of the local 4th of July
celebration is a fireworks show that is synchronized with a local radio
station's broadcast signal.  The entire music package is on a big reel of
tape, and cue tones imbedded throughout the tape electronically set off
the fireworks at the appropriate time.  Bring your radio to the park,
listen to stirring patriotic music as you watch the fireworks.  The
effect is spectacular, as the fireworks explode in time to the music.
The program starts slowly and builds for nearly a half hour to the Grand
Finale, where dozens of fireworks are sent up in a torrent of light and
noise as the crowd goes wild.

Well.  Several years ago, the tape was delivered from the production
company to the radio station wound tails out.  The DJ was used to getting
his tapes wound heads out, and he did not preview the tape.

The fireworks display that year will not be soon forgotten.  The program
began with a few seconds of weird music, then the Grand Finale began and
the sky filled with fireworks.

Barely one minute into the show and everyone in the crowd was going nuts!
 What a show this was going to be!

[removed] everything after that was anticlimatic.  Random fireworks here and
there, no more spectaculars.

A crowd of very puzzled spectators left after the show slowly ran down
and just kind of dissolved into nothingness.  And the music just never
did sound quite right.

Yeah, I loved it.

---Dan Hughes, General Manager
WPCD radio, Champaign IL
[removed]~dan (spiffy home page, with OTR links)

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:06 -0400
From: Eric Cooper <ejcooper2001@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sorry, Wrong Coast

I agree with those who say that there was no "west coast" version of SORRY
WRONG NUMBER for two reasons. I have (as other also have) heard BOTH
recordings and they ARE identical. In addition, it seems unlikely that
Suspense, at that point, would have had a "west coast version". If I am not
mistaken ,"west coast repeats" were only done on the major shows of that
time and Suspense in 1943 was not yet a major show.

The explanation of the Sorry Wrong Number fluff occurred a week later,
after CBS had gotten many letters asking for either an explanation or a
repeat of the ending.

By the way, J. David Goldin of the old Radiola/Radio Yesteyear company,
included a purported photocopy of the New York Times radio log for the
night of the first Sorry Wrong Number broadcast. The episode title was
listed there as, "She Overheard Death Speaking" . Mr. Goldin then asked the
question (right on the album cover) "Wonder Why They Changed The Title At
The Last Minute"?

Well, did they? Or was this an alteration/myth made up by Goldin? And if
true , why the change?


Eric Cooper
Mission Viejo, CA

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:20 -0400
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnny Dollar five-part

Hi all:
I have been listening to otr since I was 12, so I spent a lot of time in my
room as a teenager enjoying the shows.  My dad was never into it.  However,
we were on vacation one year and I brought along some five-part Johnny
Dollar shows.  I happened to be listening to one and he overheard it.  He
came over and listened to it with me.  He said he liked Johnny's style.  My
dad sells insurance, so I guess he found a connection.  He also came to like
Dragnet and Gunsmoke radio, though we still argue over whether the tv or
radio versions of Gunsmoke are better.
RyanO

"It don't matter how a man [removed]'s how he lives that's important."
CPT. Augustus McCrae "Lonesome Dove"

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:16 -0400
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  voices of Hap

Hi all:
I did recognize Bill Johnstone as Hap for Autolite.  But I also recognized
Parley Baer, Tom Holland, Ken Christy and Joe Duvall.
RyanO

"It don't matter how a man [removed]'s how he lives that's important."
CPT. Augustus McCrae "Lonesome Dove"

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:25:14 -0400
From: "Tim Ballew" <timballew@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Joys of Found Trivia

Hello all,

I enjoyed the thread on the digest a while back in which the home addresses
of various radio characters and shows were listed.  This turned into a
discussion of where certain shows took place etc.

Around the time of this same thread, the circumstances of Leroy and Marjorie
Forrester's orphan status was partially reconstructed based on clues heard
in various Great Gildersleeve broadcasts.

I guess I'm quite entertained by the little ways in which a fictional radio
character or family slowly acquires a detailed set of trivia around their
lives as writers find themselves portraying random situations that unpeel
thin layer after thin layer of their identity.

It could be incidental to a quick phone conversation, such as giving out
directions or a phone number; it could be a reference to a local event that
betrays the general geographical area.  It could be a never-before mentioned
last/first/middle name, a character's age (Jack Benny excepted!), or any
number of little discoveries.  Don't ask me why, but I'm always tickled to
discover these things.

Dunning tends to string these kinds of items together in his longer show
summaries and the Great Gildersleeve entry is a case in point: among other
items, we find that Gildy lived at 83 Wistful Vista before moving at age 42
to Lakeside and State in Summerfield. (Hey! What happened to Gildersleeve's
wife when he moved?) What's more, (I love this one) Birdie's full name is
Birdie Lee Coggins.  This particular one actually adds to my enjoyment of
her character!

As with the discussion of addresses, some of these factoids are more obvious
(Fibber's 79 Wistful Vista), others seem to be available as self-conscious
plugs & promotions (like entire promotional maps or the "1847 Rogers Road"
address named for one of Ozzie & Harriet's sponsors), but some (the best
ones IMHO!) are more random and incidental references uncovered through
attentive listening.

I mention comedies here (especially sitcoms) because they seem most prone to
this easter egg hunt.  For instance, I stand by my previous statement that
Bob Bailey's (5-part) Johnny Dollar is one of the most 3-dimensional
detectives out there, but only relative to that genre.  Aside from his
constant attempts to enjoy a day of fishing, we don't really hear much about
Johnny himself; the shows are more about the pathos he feels for the
characters he encounters and situations he reacts to than about him as a
man.  Even so, I guess Casey, Crime Photographer might let slip the brand of
his camera or the name of the journalism school he [removed]:)

If any of you encounter trivia of this sort in your listening, it would be
fun to hear about it.

Why not test that premise by sharing my latest:

Recently I have been really enjoying episodes of The Couple Next Door from
the 1957-1960 revival.  It's really unlike any other OTR I've heard so far.
Writer Peg Lynch's dialogue is subtly clever and genuine and the chemistry
between (Actor) Peg Lynch and Alan Bunce almost reminds me of Nichols and
May.  And there is [removed] don't [removed] spacious about the
absence of audience laughter in a comedy (especially "coached" laughter).

And the point is:
Dunning and some other sources I've seen make a point of the fact that the
characters are purposely unnamed, apparently because the roles were
identical to Lynch and Bunce's "Ethel and Albert" (Arbuckle).

"The characters referred to each other as 'dear'", Dunning writes "and were
never named" ([removed])

However, this isn't *completely* the case.  While enjoying a series of
episodes from July/August in which nesting birds delay the building of their
house, I found that this couple's LAST name was mentioned a total of only
about two or three times over two particular episodes.  To cite the example
closest at hand: in the episode from 8/21/58 (I show it titled "Birds Find
The Nest") the general contractor Mr. Dibble says to Alan Bunce's character
"Well, it's a funny thing Mr. Piper, you can't always regulate a human
being"

The Pipers.

OK, not earth shattering, but this is one of the ways in which OTR is fun
for me.  :)

Tim

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:43 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: SUSPENSE's Hap

In a message dated 6/12/01 9:21:57 PM, Lanny Gilbert asks:

Anyhow, his foil is a guy he calls Hap. Hap sounds
just like one of the men who played the Shadow, but
I can't quite place the one. I'm thinking maybe
Bill Johnstone. Does anybody know about this?
Who was the voice of Hap?

***You betchum, Red Ryder.  Bill Johnstone moved to California with CAVALCADE
OF AMERICA in 1943 and soon became one of the top character actors in West
Coast radio, appearing in numerous episodes of THE LUX RADIO THEATRE, THE
SAINT, Jimmy Stewart's THE SIX SHOOTER, etc.  He also starred in Blake
Edward's THE LINEUP and briefly portrayed the Voice of SUSPENSE and also THE
WHISTLER (in the 1948 summer season sponsored by HFC, not the Signal
broadcasts) before returning to NYC where he co-starred on TV's AS THE WORLD
TURNS from 1955-78. --Anthony Tollin

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:46 -0400
From: "The Lovely Rod" <tlr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Bob Hope in Australia

In response to Kenneth's request re Bob Hope appearances, he did appear as a
special guest in Australia on Jack Davey's radio quiz show The Ampol Show:
Number Please! c1950s.

The episode is released on a double CD set called "Variety Radio Style",
featuring various episodes of Australian OTR quiz shows.

Rod Lewis
Aussie OTR at [removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:48 -0400
From: "J. Alec West" <Alec@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Back In Nagasaki

Doug Leary wrote:

I'm sure it's been featured elsewhere, but where I first heard this song was
in the tv version of one of [removed] Wodehouse's "Jeeves & Wooster" stories.
Hugh Laurie as Bertie Wooster plays the tune on the piano as he belts out,
"...back in Nagasaki where the fellas chew tobacky in the mooooooor-ning!"

How about:

	Back in Nagasaki where the fellas chew tobacky
		And the women wicky-wacky-woo!

Hehe.  I believe the song originated in the late 1920s.  Frank Crumit and Nat
Shilkret recorded the song around that time (possibly on cylinder first, before
78rpm).  I have a copy of that version which is pretty, shall we say, "musty,"
ran it through my Dolby unit, and then encoded it in 32k mono RA:

	[removed]

The first minute-and-a-half is instrumental and then Crumit starts singing.

Regards,
J. Alec

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:50 -0400
From: "Tom and Katja" <kattom@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Suspense question

Hi:

Lanny Gilbert asks who plays "Hap" in the Suspense Autolite commencials. It
is, indeed, Bill Johnstone.

Only the Shadow [removed]

Tom Zotti
Wolfeboro, NH

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:27:53 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Arlene Harris

George Tirebiter wonders,

Can anyone
provide any information about her?  She obviously must have been rather
famous at one time.

Arlene Harris was a vaudeville comedienne who spent five years in the
late twenties-early thirties on the western smalltime billed as an
"impressionist of feminine types." A number of women did acts like this
at the time -- a comic monologue, in which the performer simply stood at
center stage holding a prop telephone and acted out one side of a
conversation, as it would be conducted by various stock characters:
clubwomen, dumb-doras, gum-cracking shopgirls, teenagers, and assorted
dialect types. Harris' most popular characterization was of a "fast
talker", in which her publicity claimed she exceeded 240 words per minute
-- and this act caught the attention of San Francisco comic Al Pearce in
1933. She was recruited for Pearce's troupe, "Al Pearce and his Gang"
over KFRC in San Francisco, and went with the group to NBC the following
year.

Harris remained associated with Pearce for as long as he was on the air,
on and off into the mid-forties. During the early forties Pearce had a
very successful side business promoting "unit shows," in which one or two
members of his Gang would play engagements at neighborhood theatres
accompanied by a bill of more-or-less unknown regional talent, and Harris
was a frequent headliner in these performances until the unit-show
business was halted by wartime travel restrictions. In 1946, she joined
the Baby Snooks program as Mommy, continuing in that role until the
series left the air following Fannie Brice's death in 1951.

Elizabeth

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:02:45 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Morse's estate

David Buswell inquires about the rather palatial digs in which Carlton E.
Morse resided.  Just a day or two ago I was doing some research and
rereading the chapter on I Love a Mystery in Jim Harmon's original
edition of The Great Radio Heroes (published in 1967) .  He relates a
marvelous tale about his initial invitation and visit to Morse's Seven
Stones estate near S. F.  It's very compelling reading if only to learn
about the environment in which the great man worked.  I don't know if
it's included in Harmon's newer edition of the same book but I suspect it
is since he (Harmon) was so enamored by the legendary author.  I think
you'll find some interesting insights, although brief, about the physical
surroundings recorded there.

Jim Cox

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:09:24 -0400
From: Richard Veit <Richard_Veit@[removed];
To: OTR Chatgroup <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Life of Riley

                       Subject:                               Time: 8:58 AM
   OFFICE MEMO         Life of Riley
                                                               Date:6/13/01
I have been listening to some "Life of Riley" episodes lately, and they are
quite funny. However, one program (March 4, 1949) puzzled me in a couple of
ways, so I thought I would ask the chatgroup for some answers.
This particular episode originates from the RKO Grand Theatre in Cincinnati,
site of the world premiere of the "Life of Riley" motion picture, which
occurred that same week. Some of the radio cast also appeared in the film,
most notably William Bendix and John Brown (Digger O'Dell). Of course, later
that year, Jackie Gleason would create the television role of Chester A.
Riley in a short-lived first attempt at a series. Bendix reprised his radio
and movie appearances in the much more successful second try at a series four
years later.

Anyway, to get back to my two questions:

(1) Why did Riley get such wild laughter when he said he "lost his shirt in
Newport, Kentucky," on the way to the premiere? Was Newport perhaps a
gambling center on the river?

(2) Why do the recording's commercials not present "Tallulah, the Tube of
Prell" live from the theater but instead apparently cut to studio remakes?
Did something technical go wrong in the theater versions which necessitated
this switch? Were Tallulah's double entendres considered a bit too risque for
the live audience? Was she perhaps performing in an isolated booth that
filtered away the auditorium ambiance? Or were the aired commercials simply
(GASP!) transcribed?

Thanks for any ideas you might have.

Richard Veit

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:09:22 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  KRA Conclave

If you live in or near Louisville, Kentucky, here's an invitation to
attend the monthly meeting of Kentuckiana Radio Addicts Sunday, June 17.
We're definitely a laid-back group of enthusiasts ranging in age from 30s
to 70s and beginning our fourth year together keeping alive the memory of
old time radio in our region.  We may be unique among such clubs for
you'll find no officers, no constitution, no structured programs, no
dues, no newsletter and no library.  Just a good time of sharing and
exchanging ideas and materials without any obligation, yet a tremendous
camaraderie and spirit of fellowship.  Hey, if it'll work here, it'll
work anywhere!  Contact me for time and place.  Everyone welcome!

Jim Cox
otrbuff@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:09:31 -0400
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Buffalo

Has a word or phrase ever stuck in your mind from somewhere and you
couldn't pinpoint its origin?  I've had many of those experiences and
just recently finally identified one of them.  I can recall, as a
youngster, hearing my dad say over and over, "Me kill many, many
buffalo."  I picked that up and repeated it.  Somehow, in the intervening
decades since, I forgot the true origin of that expression.  I didn't
think it came from The Lone Ranger, even though my dad and I shared
hundreds of episodes of that epic drama together.  I knew nobody in the
family was an Indian so I wondered for years:  "Where did we get that
from?"

A few days ago, while listening to some excerpts from Monitor at its
website, the mystery was solved.  Bob & Ray were doing a takeoff on
Indians (nobody referred to them as Native Americans then) and, while
giving the weather reports a la Miss Monitor for some mythical western
hamlets, Ray Goulding (with appropriate grunts) every now and then would
throw in:  "Me kill many, many buffalo . . . ."  Bingo!  Reality!  What a
serendipitous moment!

Anybody else ever hear that expression and remember where you first heard
it?

Jim Cox

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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:49:57 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  answers

Bill Johnstone was on Suspense.  Bob Hope hosted a lot of the AFRS radio
show.  A good one would be the 1944 Christmas show of Command Performance
which was a two hour show.  Charlie Chan was on radio both a serial, and a
complete episode show.  John and Larry Gassman visited Carlton E Morse at
his home.  Carlton had a contract sale on his property which meant that
Carlton sold the home to a an indidvual, but got to live in it until he
died.

Walden Hughes

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