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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2005 : Issue 243
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
... And The Winner Is .... [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
Sams almanac [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
Beetle Bomb [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
FICTION OR FACT [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
Re: OTR Quote [ Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed]; ]
Back from real life. [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
DVDs of OTR [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
Fiction and fact .... [ Cecil <cecil@[removed]; ]
Ipod Technology and OTR [ "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@jalc. ]
The almanac [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
Sam Cowling [ alanladdsr@[removed] ]
Who's On First [ <robertgaxley@[removed]; ]
OTR quote [ "Scott Rogers" <srogerssprint5@eart ]
PODCASTING AND subject 2 KNX [ CIEN <voxpop@[removed]; ]
Space Patrol [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
DVDs n' "ought" [ "bobb lynes" <iairotr@[removed]; ]
Walden Hughes program returns [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
Costello born in 1906 [ Steve Carter <scarter2@[removed]; ]
8-12 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
local commercials [ ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed]; ]
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:36:32 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: ... And The Winner Is ....
Jim Nixon, speaking of a Spike Jones version of the William Tell
Overture, asks,
Is it "Beetle Bomb", "Feedle Bomb", "Feetle Bomb", or, less likely,
"Fetal Bomb"?
Interestingly, the question is not new. Once, Doodles Weaver wrote a
letter to the editor of what was then Astounding Science Fiction, John W.
Campbell, Jr., that was printed in the magazine's "Brass Tacks" letter
column. Campbell asked essentially the same question.
It sounded closest to "Feedle Bomb" to me.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:36:44 -0400
From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sams almanac
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I believe that fiction or Fact from Sam's Almanac came from Don O'neill's
Breakfast Club.
Ed Kindred
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:01:24 -0400
From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Beetle Bomb
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I think it was Beetle Bomb and the music was "The Dance of the Hours"
from La Giaconda. Gia gio one of those condas
Ed Kindred
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:11:26 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: FICTION OR FACT
Sam Cowling, my Chicago next door neighbor, did Fiction Or Fact From
Sam's Almanac on the Breakfast Club. He also did a funny bit when
Eddie's orchestra played an instrumental. Sam would go into the audience
-- pluck a lady from the audience, and start dancing with her. He danced
her out of the studio
--just as the orchestra was finishing, they would reappear, lipstick all
over Sam's face.
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:11:55 -0400
From: Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: OTR Quote
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"Fiction and fact from ?????'s almanac"
Vince
Could it be "Fiction and Fact from Sam's Almanac"? Don McNeill's
Breakfast Club. See
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Steve
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:12:38 -0400
From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Back from real life.
Fibbermac here-
I'm back after a several month escape into real life.
I had a few unexpected changes in my life that led
to a rather rapid relocation which has allowed me to
move closer to my wife's family.
Unfortunately, it all came up so suddenly that I had
to abandon my e-mail for several months while I was
relocating. I have only now caught up on my Digests
and have a few very tardy replies to some interesting
threads from the last few months, begining with:
1.) During a thread that was debating the relative
merits of "Lum and Abner", Andrew Steinberg said, "If
I had only one program I could listen to while I drove
accross the country, 'Lum and Abner' would be it."
That struck me as funny because that's exactly what I
did as I was moving from Minnesota to Colorado. (Great
minds think alike, right Andrew?)
2.) I was saddened to hear of the recent passing of
Hildegarde. In 1976, she was one of the stars in a
bicentennial/variety program I also appeared in. (Mine
was a bit part, I assure you.) I still remember her
strong voice and professionalism after all these
years.
3.) In the rather interesting thread about "This is
Your Life", someone asked if there were any guests who
knew in advance that they were to be honored on that
show. This is probably a trick question, but I have a
copy of a two-part radio episode of "This is Your
Life" and it's safe to say that not only did the guest
of honor not know he was going to be on the show, he
didn't realize he had appeared on the show even when
it was over. Can anybody guess who this guest of honor
was?
I could keep going but I probably shouldn't take up a
whole Digest in one sitting.
Wonderful world!
-FIBBERMAC-
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:13:49 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: DVDs of OTR
Thanks to Herb Harrison, Sandy Singer, and Ivan Shreve, Jr. for
suggesting merchants that will likely have inexpensive DVDs of OTR
subjects. While the original copyrights had obviously expired on these
movies and TV shows, it did not stop PC Treasures from slapping their
own copyright date of 2004 on the copies I have.
My missus, who is far more skilled than I at web-surfing, located the
internet location of the company who produced the DVDs I have:
<[removed]> Since all of their
offerings are replicated on [removed], she has a sneaking suspicion
that PC Treasures may be an unadvertised Amazon subsidiary.
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:25:04 -0400
From: Cecil <cecil@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Fiction and fact ....
"Fiction and Fact From Sam's Almanac" was a regular feature on Don
McNeill's Breakfast Club. Sam Cowling began the feature in 1943. His
material often dealt with marriage. For example:
"Your conscience is what makes you tell your wife before someone else does."
The best way to keep a husband is in doubt."
Cecil West
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:36:16 -0400
From: "Jerry Bechtel" <jerrybechtel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Ipod Technology and OTR
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I'm in the process(for the past 11 months) of formatting all my OTR
shows into the itunes system and preparing to attempt to dump all onto a
30 gig ipod. I currently have about 24 gigs of shows ready to move onto
the ipod and have many more to go. What a job to rename / format all the
various mp3 shows into itunes and maintain consistence! It appears to
going well although VERY time consuming. I started with all my favorites
as complete as I could get them and now am moving into my secondary
lists. I hope 30 gigs will be enough. Any suggestions / advice at this
point. Has anyone else done or are doing this. My goal is a complete,
accurate, consistent format for all my shows. I think this will be a
good way to safely store my shows and give great flexibility, while
traveling, to listen to what I want when I want it. Of course I shall
keep my backup on my home computers. Suggestions ?
Thanks for [removed]
Jerry Bechtel
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 01:58:22 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: The almanac
Vince Long recalls: "Fiction and fact from ?????'s almanac"
EVERYBODY will have remembered this one! "Fiction and fact from Sam's
almanac."
Sam Cowling was added to The Breakfast Club crew in 1937 along with Fran
Allison, two of the most durable and funniest members of that legendary
series. They were both still with the show when it left the air at the end
of 1968. Not too many can lay claim to that. They shared something else in
common: both began their stints as singers but hit their strides while
sprouting into humor.
Cowling initially appeared on the show as a member of The Romeos, a musical
ensemble composed of Gill Jones, Lou Perkins and Boyce Smith, with conductor
Eddie Ballantine directing. Over time Cowling's contributions were
channeled into a stream of one-line gags, turning him into Don McNeill's
prime foil. In 1943, when he introduced the almost daily feature "Fiction
and Fact from Sam's Almanac," Cowling's history as a singer was forgotten.
Relying on a barrage of inane riddles, he asked host Don McNeill something
like: "What's the difference between a tiger and a panther?" When McNeill
and other cast members folded, Cowling retorted: "A tiger is a big cat but
panther what you wear."
A critic noted that the portly Cowling recited "lousy jokes, worse verse,
folklore, nostalgia, and letters from his mailbag." Among them:
-- Courtship makes a man spoon, but marriage makes him fork over.
-- The distance between the head of a fox to its tail is a fur piece.
-- Fifty percent of the married people in Denver, Colorado, are women.
-- Take a forest fire, for instance -- now there's a hot one!
-- In Arkansas ... most of the soil consists of dirt.
Cowling may have appeared on only a couple of supplementary network
broadcast series -- radio's Club Matinee from 1937 to 1943 and The Don
McNeill TV Club from 1950 to 1951.
He is pictured on p. 48 of my book, The Great Radio Audience Participation
Shows ([removed]) in a lengthy treatise on The Breakfast Club.
Jim Cox
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 01:59:30 -0400
From: alanladdsr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sam Cowling
Fiction and fact from Sam's Almanac
Old routine from the Breakfast Club with Don McNeill
and Sam Cowling.
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 01:59:38 -0400
From: <robertgaxley@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Who's On First
Herb Harrison stated the first movie on file of the Abbott and Costello
routine was Naughty Nineties. However, it was first perfomed in the boys'
first movie A Night in the Tropics.
Bob Axley
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 01:59:45 -0400
From: "Scott Rogers" <srogerssprint5@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR quote
The phrase was "Fiction and Fact from Sam's Almanac" This was a feature on
Don McNeill's Breakfast Club.
-Scott
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:01:08 -0400
From: CIEN <voxpop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: PODCASTING AND subject 2 KNX
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hello here
i'm not a computer genius as you will soon [removed] reference to
podcasting if one is still on a dial-up connection podcasting would be a
waste of [removed] because it would take 2 light years to download 30
[removed] i correct in this assumption?
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RE KNX
it's the end of an [removed] move to wilshire blvd. i [removed] more
brittinghams or the bank of america on the corner ..no more waiting in lines
around the block to get into an audience [removed] except for me of course
because i would go to the back of knx and steal a script from the trash can
and walk by the lobby receptionist with it in my coat [removed] the one
facing her and take a seat in the first [removed]'t tell anyone there may be
no statute of limitations on that. lol
chet norris
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:01:52 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Space Patrol
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:05:19 -0400
From: "WILLIS G Saunders" <saunders8@[removed];
I saw the name of Jeff Corey in the Births/Deaths column, and I
wondered if some of the Digesters knew that in the early days of
"Space Patrol" on ABC-Radio (and maybe on TV, for all I know), he
played the part of "Lieutenant" Jeff Corey of the Space Patrol,
brother to Commander Corey and flight instructor to Cadet Happy,
before Happy was assigned to Commander Corey? Oh, well, so much for
trivia.
Jean-Noel Bassoir's book, "Space Patrol: Missions of Daring in the name of Early Television"
contains no mention of a "Jeff Corey," either as a character or an actor. The original
commander, Kit Corry (note spelling), played by Glen Denning (real name Franklin Mullen),
didn't last more than a few months before being succeeded by his brother, Buzz Corry,
played by Ed Kemmer.
Mike Moser, the show's creator, got the name from Corry Field, now Corry Station, a Naval
Technical Training Center in Texas where he was stationed during the War. It was named
after Lieutenant Commander William M. Corry, Jr., a World War I hero and aviation pioneer.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210
lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:02:22 -0400
From: "bobb lynes"
<iairotr@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: DVDs n' "ought"
Hi,
Someone (Rob?) asked about how we should refer to the early years of this
new century, such as "ought-five", O-5 or whatever. My 2-cents worth: why
not just say (as the copyright on some TV shows says) "MM-5" or verbally:
"EM EM-FIVE". I think it's a bit easier to get one's tongue around than
"Two Thousand Five". Just an idea.
Re the DVDs Jack French's son gave him, I believe I talked (about 8 months
ago) about the fact that a BUNCH of OTR-related material was becoming
available. Yes it's VIDEO, but featuring all our old friends;
Benny, Hope, Crosby, Burns & Allen, Skelton,Webb,The Ranger and more! I
even picked up a couple of Rathbone/Bruce Sherlock Holmes 1940s Universals
which had as "extras" about 3 RADIO shows on each DVD. "Public Domain" or
not, they're out [removed] I'm sure more are on the way!
See you all in Newark,
Bobb
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:02:33 -0400
From:
BryanH362@[removed]
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: Walden Hughes program returns
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when --Fri, Sat, and Sunday at 7:30 pm Pacific Time.
Now podcasting . Further information found at the above referenced web site.
Hightlights of this weeks schedule:
Friday 8-12-05
A. Jim Harmon talks about western hero's on radio .
B. To celebrate the up coming date of Amos and Andy's 76 years on network
radio we feature an interview with Bill Hay who was the announcer during the
early days.
C. Some Amos and Andy shows.
D. To honor 60 years since the ending of World War II some of the shows as
heard on WEAF on 8-10-45 will be broadcast. This is wexactly what people
heard
in NY on NBC while they were waiting on the news of Japan surrending.
Saturday 8-13-05
A. Dick Bertel and Ed Corcanan interview with comedy writer Carroll
Carroll.
B. interview with Jim Cox to talk about his new book titled " Music Radio "
C. Two Kraft Music Hall's with Bing Crosby
D. Information Please
E. part 2 of Same Time Same Station with guest Marvin Miller
F. other OTR like Lux Radio Theater, Fibber McGee and Molly, Great
Gilderslevve and others
8-14-05
A. Laura Leff with presenting Jack Benny is scheduled.
B. Spin the wheel with Mike Biel . Where does the wheel stop ? Only Mike
knows.
Join Mike for an impromptu live discussion on various subjects.
Great fun .
Look for future highlights of past Biel discussions including the
ever popular
"Tale of Two professors -- Mike Biel vs Leah's professor" .
C. CBS 7 PM hour news broadcast on 8-14-45 when the announcement of ending
of World War II
D. Same Time Same Station special cover news and shows heard from 8-13-45
through 8-14-45.
E. Lux Radio Theater from 1953
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:04:37 -0400
From: Steve Carter
<scarter2@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: Costello born in 1906
From: Herb Harrison
excerpt:
The pair first met in 1906, but didn't officially start performing
together
until 1936. The famous routine had been around for many years before
Abbott
and Costello put their mark on it.
No one knows who wrote the skit."
Actually Herb got it a bit wrong since one of the links he sent has
this:
"Born William Alexander Abbott on October 6, 1897 in Asbury Park, New
Jersey, Bud became one of the most sought-after and polished
straightmen on the burlesque circuit. It was here that he met his
future partner, Louis Francis Cristillo, born on March 6, 1906 in
Paterson, New Jersey."
I can see how the mistake was made.
Meanwhile I'm a new guy. So hello, all. I promise not to correct
everyone's emails. Tee Hee!
Steve
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:14:27 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-12 births/deaths
August 12th births
08-12-1881 - Cecil B. DeMille - Ashfield, MA - d. 1-21-1959
host: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-12-1887 - Gus Van - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-12-1968
comedian: (Van and Schenck) "Eveready Hour"; "Sinclair Wiener Minstrels"
08-12-1888 - Eric Snowden - England - d. 6-27-1979
actor: John H. Watson "Sherlock Holmes"; Alvin "Parties at Pickfair"
08-12-1892 - Alfred Lunt - Milwaukee, WI - d. 8-3-1977
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Treasury Star
Parade"
08-12-1893 - Howard Smith - Attleboro, MA - d. 1-10-1968
actor: Will Brown "Aldrich Family"; Jack Galloway "Jane Arden"
08-12-1898 - Oscar Homolka - Vienna, Austria - d. 1-27-1978
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-12-1904 - Kay Campbell - d. 5-27-1985
actress: Evey Perkins Fitz "Ma Perkins"
08-12-1907 - Joe Besser - St. Louis, MO - d. 3-1-1988
comedian: ("No so faaaast! . . . oh, you craaaaze you!) "Jack Benny Program"
08-12-1911 - Dr. Olan Downes - West Roxbury, MA - d. 12-26-2001
musicologist: "Texaco Metropolitan Opera"; "New York Philharmonic"
08-12-1911 - Jane Wyatt - Campgaw, NJ
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Great Plays"; "[removed] Steel Hour"
08-12-1912 - Sam Fuller - Worcester, MA - d. 10-30-1997
producer, director: "The Aldrich Family"; "The Jack Carson Show"
08-12-1914 - Guy Sorel - d. 4-5-1994
actor: Larry Noble "Backstage Wife"
08-12-1921 - Marjorie Reynolds - Buhl, ID - d. 2-1-1997
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Silver Theatre"
08-12-1926 - John Derek - Hollywood, CA - d. 5-22-1998
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-12-1927 - Porter Wagoner - West Plains, MO
singer: "Grand Ole Opry"
08-12-1929 - Buck Owens - Sherman, TX
singer: "Here's to Veterans"
August 12th deaths
01-06-1913 - Loretta Young - Salt Lake City, UT (Raised: Los Angeles, CA) -
d. 8-12-2000
actress: "Family Theatre"; "Four Star Playhouse"
03-13-1873 - Nellie Revell - Springfield, IL - d. 8-12-1958
commentator: "Neighbor Nell"; "Meet the Artist"
05-16-1905 - Henry Fonda - Grand Island, NE - d. 8-12-1982
actor: "Eyes Aloft"; "Romance"; "Suspense"
05-28-1912 - Tom Scott - d. 8-12-1961
folk singer, writer: "American School of the Air"; "Golden Gate Quartet Sings"
06-06-1875 - Thomas Mann - Lubeck, Germany - d. 8-12-1955
writer: Had works adapted for "Treasury Star Parade"
08-25-1896 - Dick Ryan - Connecticut - d. 8-12-1969
actor: "The Nebbs"
09-05-1912 - John Cage - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-12-1992
composer: "The Columbia Workshop"
09-09-1927 - Mary O. Major - Santa Barbara County, CA - d. 8-12-1998
vocalist: "The Eddie Cantor Show"
09-25-1894 - John Howard Lawson - New York City, NY - d. 8-12-1977
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:34:55 -0400
From: ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: local commercials
A few days ago I was listening to a local station that does the radio
spirits ssyndication shows. I have forgotten what it was, one of the
spooky kind of things that abounded and were copied again and again, and it
contained a local commercial. It is somewhat rare for the radio spirit
shows to have commercials, I think it depends on how much material is need
to fill the hour time slot and only if a show is a bit short are they left
intact. This was a local commercial for a radio dealer in a specific city
and a local phone number was given. How would it be that a disk would
contain a local commercial? Could it have been a tape of a show or some
disk made from the network with the commercial added? The show was from '53
as I recall and was a minor series I had never heard of before and might
have itself been a syndication with local distribution.
XB
IC|XC
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