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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2010 : Issue 156
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Gene Hamilton [ Fass Martin <watchstop@frontiernet. ]
Quiz shows [ "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@juno. ]
9-4 births/deths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Tune into Yesterday newsletter ORCA [ Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed] ]
This week in radio history 5-11 Sept [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
9-5 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
History Detectives [ David Loftus <dloft59@[removed] ]
9-6 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:28:55 -0400
From: Fass Martin <watchstop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Gene Hamilton
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Does anybody know the background for why Gene Hamilton, an NBC
announcer with a beautiful voice, sometimes was called, and referred
to himself, as Doctor Gino Hamilton? He self-identified at least once
at the close of a "Biography in Sound" program, the one about actors,
and would regularly be known as Dr. Gino on a series of NBC music
programs called "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street." There
IS an entry at Wikipedia about the show.
--Martin Fass
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:14 -0400
From: "kclarke5@[removed]" <kclarke5@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Quiz shows
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There have been many quiz shows on OTR, as we all know. I don't
believe they've been on the air since radio began however. That being said,
how long have there been quiz shows on OTR and what were the most
popular ones? Contact me off list with this information.
Sincerely,
Kenneth Clarke
kclarke5@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:20 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 9-4 births/deths
September 4th births
09-04-1880 - Claude Cooper - London, England - d. 7-20-1932
actor: Pegleg Gaddis "Moonshine and Honeysuckle"
09-04-1891 - Sam Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 5-5-1977
bandleader: "Ipana Troubadors"; "Benrus Ticksters"
09-04-1895 - Jack Miller - Dorchester, MA - d. 3-18-1985
conductor: "Kate Smith and Her Swanee Music"; "Aldrich Family"
09-04-1898 - Agnes Ayres - Carbondale, IL - d. 12-25-1940
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-04-1898 - Charlie Cantor - Worcester, MA - d. 9-11-1966
actor: Clifton Finnegan "Duffy's Tavern"; Levy Soloman "Abie's Irish
Rose"
09-04-1898 - Harry Salter - Bucharest, Romania - d. 3-5-1984
conductor: "It Pays to Be Ignorant"; "Lanny Ross Show"; "Stop the Music"
09-04-1903 - Bennie Bonacio - Mineo, Italy - d. 1-10-1974
saxophonist: Paul Whiteman, Vincent Lopez orchestras
09-04-1903 - Leonard Lee - d. 8-24-1964
writer: "Sherlock Holmes"
09-04-1903 - Phillip Arkansas - d. 11-27-1969
saxophonisst: WWNC Ashville, North Carolina
09-04-1905 - Meade Lux Lewis - Chicago, IL - d. 6-7-1964
jazz pianist: "Camel Caravan"; "Mercury Theatre"; "Jubilee"
09-04-1908 - Ed Dmytryk - Grand Forks, Canada - d. 7-1-1999
film director: "George Fisher Interviews the Stars"
09-04-1913 - Henry Russell - Michigan - d. 4-14-1968
conductor: "NBC University Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"
09-04-1913 - Jan Savitt - Petrograd, Russia - d. 10-4-1948
bandleader: "Fitch Bandwagon"; "Rhapsody in Rhythm"
09-04-1914 - Leonard Sterling - d. 9-18-1992
announcer: "The Brighter Day"; "We Are Always Young"
09-04-1918 - Paul Harvey - Tulsa, OK - d. 2-28-2009
commentator: "Paul Harvey News"; "Speak Your Mind"
09-04-1923 - Graham Archer - d. 1-3-2001
disk jockey: "Wax Museum"; "The States of the Union"
09-04-1923 - Virginia Maxey - Indianapolis, IN
singer: (Modernaires) "Club Fifteen"
09-04-1925 - Howard Morris - NYC - d. 5-21-2005
comedian: "Those Good Old Days"
09-04-1928 - Dick York - Fort Wayne, IN - d. 2-20-1992
actor: Billy Fairfield "Jack Armstrong/Armstrong of the SBI"
09-04-1931 - Glyn Frewer - Oxford, England
writer: "The Hitchhikers"
09-04-1931 - Mitzi Gaynor - Chicago, IL
singer, actor: "Juke Box Jury"
09-04-1934 - Ron Batozech - d. 7-22-1997
disk jockey: WJOL Joliet, Illinois
09-04-1936 - Wayne Cody - Atlantic City, NJ - d. 6-7-2002
Seattle sportscaster
09-04-1937 - Red Shipley - Johnson City, TN - d. 10-6-2007
host: "Stained Glass Bluegrass"; "Orange & Blue Review"
September 4th deaths
02-06-1929 - Keith Waterhouse - Leeds, Yorkshire, England - d. 9-4-2009
author: his book "Billy Liar" adapted for radio
02-08-1920 - Robert Garnett "Buddy" Blattner - St. Louis, MO - d.
9-4-2009
announcer: teamed with Dizzy Dean on St. Louis Browns radio
04-25-1918 - Astrid Varnay - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 9-4-2006
operatic soprano: "Metropolitan Opera"; "Operatic Excerpts"
06-02-1915 - Walter Tetley - NYC - d. 9-4-1975
actor: Julius Abbruzio "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"; LeRoy Forrester
"Great Gildersleeve"
06-09-1908 - Joe Biviano - d. 9-4-1992
accordionist: NBC Blue Network
06-15-1843 - Edvard Grieg - Bergen Norway - d. 9-4-1907
composer: Some of his compositions used as themes
07-16-1930 - Joey Giardello - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-4-2008
middleweight boxer; "Tops In Sports"; "Pabst Blue Ribbon Bouts"
07-27-1920 - Michael Evans - Sittingbourne, England - d. 9-4-2007
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"
08-09-1911 - Robert K. McCormick - Danville, KY - d. 9-4-1984
newscaster: "Robert K. McCormick and the News"
08-19-1903 - Fran Striker - Buffalo, NY - d. 9-4-1962
creator, writer: "The Lone Ranger"; "Sgt. Preston of the Yukon"; "The
Green Hornet"
09-12-1897 - Richard Maxwell - Mansfield, OH - d. 9-4-1954
singer, host: "A Friend in Deed"; "Cheer and Comfort"
09-12-1907 - Louis MacNeice - Belfast, Ireland - d. 9-4-1963
author: "Christopher Columbus"
09-15-1915 - John Conte - Palmer, MA - d. 9-4-2006
emcee: "Maxwell House Coffee Time"; "John Conte Show"
10-11-1932 - Dottie West - McMinnville, TN - d. 9-4-1991
country singer: "Country Music Time"
10-26-1913 - Charlie Barnet - NYC - d. 9-4-1991
bandleader: "Fitch Bandwagon"; "Saturday Night Swing Session"
11-16-1920 - Colin Thiele - Eudunda, Australia - d. 9-4-2006
writer: "Burke and Wills"
12-12-1917 - Richard Martin - Spokane, WA - d. 9-4-1994
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
12-20-1898 - Irene Dunne - Louisville, KY - d. 9-4-1990
actor: Susan Armstrong "Bright Star"; "Family Theatre"; "Hallmark Hall
of Fame"
Ron
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:39 -0400
From: Graeme Stevenson <graemeotr@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Tune into Yesterday newsletter ORCA
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Readers of the OTR Digest in the UK might be interested to know that Issue 60
of the Tune into Yesterday newsletter is now available from ORCA, The Old Time
Radio Show Collectors Assoc. Articles in the new issue include items about
the radio coverage of the Profumo scandal, radio coverage of JFK's 1963 visit
to Berlin, the early days of the Voice of America, Phil Gries writing about a
collection of TV audio soundtracks that was very nearly 'lost', and a special
report ( reprinted with thanks to the BBC Written Archives ) about outside
broadcasts on the German Home Service in 1942.
A sample copy can be obtained from John Wolstenholme, PO Box 1922, Dronfield,
S18 8XA England, UK
Annual membership of ORCA for US members costs 20 dollars, which brings you 4
editions of the TIY newsletter + access to the club's lending library of old
programmes.
Graeme Stevenson ( Editor: Tune into Yesterday ORCA / UK )
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:48 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: This week in radio history 5-11 September
From Those Were The Days -
9/5
1938 The NBC Red network broadcast Life Can Be Beautiful for the first
time. The program was "an inspiring message of faith drawn from life."
The program aired until 1954.
9/6
1920 The first prizefight broadcast on radio featured Jack Dempsey
knocking out Billy Miske in the third round of a bout in Benton Harbor,
MI. Radio station WWJ in Detroit was the station that fight fans were
tuned to.
9/8
1935 The Hoboken Four, featuring Frank Sinatra as lead singer,
appeared on Major Bowes Amateur Hour on WOR. The group won the
competition held at the Capitol Theatre in New York City.
1944 Ed Wynn resumed his radio career after seven years off the air.
Wynn starred in Happy Island on the NBC Blue network.
9/9
1926 the National Broadcasting Co. (NBC) was created by the Radio
Corp. of America.
From Those Were The Days
1946 Ben Alexander hosted Heart's Desire for the first time, a
giveaway contest program on the Mutual Broadcasting System.
9/10
1935 "I'm Popeye the sailor [removed]" toot! toot! Popeye was heard for
the first time on NBC. The show was based on the Elzie Crisler Segar
comic strip, which featured Popeye, Olive Oyl, Brutas, Wimpy and
Sweepea. Now, eat your spinach in celebration!
Joe
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:56 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 9-5 births/deaths
September 5th births
09-05-1879 - Harold Sanford - Florence, MA - d. 1-19-1945
conductor: "Philco Hour"; "Exploring America with Carveth Wells"
09-05-1879 - Reginald C. Knorr - Mottville, MI - d. 6-13-1959
actor: "Myrt and Marge"
09-05-1887 - Vera Barstow - d. 11-19-1962
violinists: KHJ Los Angeles, California
09-05-1892 - Joseph Szigeti - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 2-19-1973
violinist: "Camel Caravan"; "Elgin Christmas Party"; "Concert Hall"
09-05-1893 - George Sokolsky - Utica, NY - d. 12-12-1962
news commentator: 15-minute weekly series on ABC
09-05-1895 - Craig Earl - Great Barrington, MA - d. 8-13-1985
quizmaster: "Professor Quiz"
09-05-1895 - William Hillman - NYC - d. 5-30-1962
newscaster: Teamed with Raymond Clapper on NBC BLUE, ABC
09-05-1896 - Phil Baxter - Navarro County, TX - d. 11-21-1972
orchestra leader: Live remotes from El Torreon
09-05-1897 - Arthur Nielsen - Chicago, IL - d. 6-1-1980
Founder of the Nielsen Ratings
09-05-1897 - Doris Kenyon - Syracuse, NY - d. 9-1-1979
actor: Ann "Crossroads"
09-05-1897 - Morris Carnovsky - St. Louis, MO - d. 9-1-1992
actor: Adam Bassett "Prairie Folks"; Mr. Kriss "Into the Light"
09-05-1902 - Darryl Zanuck - Wahoo, NE - d. 12-22-1979
film director: "Jack Benny Program"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Triburte to
Irving Berlin"
09-05-1907 - Jimmy Wallington - Rochester, NY - d. 12-22-1972
announcer: "Chase & Sanborn Hour"; "Texaco Town/Star Theatre"; "Alan
Young Show"
09-05-1907 - Sybil Chism Bock - Carrolton, IL - d. 5-28-1980
organist: "One Man's Family"; "Lum and Abner"
09-05-1908 - Elizabeth Day - St. Paul, MN
actor: Sally Jones "Five Star Jones"
09-05-1908 - Gloria Holden - London, England - d. 3-22-1991
actor: Janet Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"
09-05-1910 - Kenny Delmar - Boston, MA - d. 7-14-1984
actor: Beauregard Claghorn "Fred Allen Show"; Commissioner Weston "The
Shadow"
09-05-1912 - John Cage - Los Angeles, CA - d. 8-12-1992
composer: "The Columbia Workshop"
09-05-1912 - Sally Payne - Chicago, IL - d. 5-8-1999
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-05-1914 - Gail Thompson Kubik - Coffeyville, KS - d. 7-20-1984
staff composer and music advisor for NBC: "Great Plays," Soldiers with
Wings"
09-05-1914 - Nancy Ordway - Fort Warden, WA - d. 4-19-2005
actor: Helen Holden "Helen Holden, Government Girl"
09-05-1916 - Frank Shuster - Toronto Canada - d. 1-13-2002
writer: (Wayne and Schuster) "The Army Show"; "The March of Time"
09-05-1916 - Frank Yerby - Augusta, GA - d. 11-29-1991
author: "Best Seller"
09-05-1918 - Max Harris - Bournemouth, England - d. 3-6-2004
composer: "Round the Horn"
09-05-1923 - Joan Wagner Beck - Clinton, IA - d. 12-10-1998
scriptwriter: "Voice of America"
09-05-1929 - Bob Newhart - Oak Park, IL
comedian: "Newhart and Gallagher"
09-05-1932 - Carol Lawrence - Melrose Park, IL
singer: "New Faces of 1948"
09-05-1939 - John Stewart - San Diego, CA - d. 1-19-2008
singer: (Kingston Trio) "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar; "Guest Star"
09-05-1941 - Alma de Groen - Foxton, New Zealand
writer: "Available Light"; "Stories in the Dark"
September 5th deaths
01-01-1889 - Maurice Baron - Lille, France - d. 9-5-1964
conductor of various symphony orchestras for radio
01-10-1927 - Gisele Mackenzie - Winnipeg, Canada - d. 9-5-2003
singer: "[removed] Woolworth Hour"; "Mario Lanza Show"; "Meet Giesele"
01-19-1909 - Merrill E. Joels - Hartford, CT - d. 9-5-2001
actor: "Counterspy"; "Aunt Jenny"; "The Big Story"
02-07-1901 - Bob Stephenson - Washington - d. 9-5-1970
announcer: "Jeff Regan, Investigator"; "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
02-17-1910 - Mark Hawley - New Jersey - d. 9-5-1986
announcer: Guy Lombardo's New Year's Eve broadcast
02-22-1905 - Jean Colbert - d. 9-5-1995
actor: "Young Dr. Malone"; "Portia Faces Life"
03-10-1918 - Heywood Hale Braun - NYC - d. 9-5-2001
cbs sports commentator: "Biography In Sound"
04-17-1925 - Blaine Walsh - Oconto, WI - d. 9-5-1985
sportscaster: Milwaukee Braves
05-28-1899 - Richard Lane - Rice Lake, WI - d. 9-5-1982
actor: Inspector Faraday "Boston Blackie"
06-22-1922 - Joe Siracuso - Cleveland, OH - d. 9-5-1997
drummer: "The Spike Jones Show"
06-27-1900 - Milt Mabie - d. 9-5-1973
singer: (The Westerners) "National Barn Dance"; "Plantation Party";
"Show Boat"
07-19-1925 - Ivor Roberts - Nottingham, England - d. 9-5-1999
character actor: "Station Road"
07-27-1912 - Irve Tunick - NYC - d. 9-5-1987
writer: "The Cavalcade of America"; "You Are There"
08-06-1922 - Jackie Kelk - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-2002
actor: Jimmy Olsen "Advs. of Superman"; Homer Brown "Aldrich Family"
08-27-1921 - Leo Penn - d. 9-5-1998
actor, film director: "Family Theatre"; "Hollywood Calling: George
Fisher Interviews"
09-16-1914 - Allen Funt - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-5-1999
host: "Candid Microphone"
10-21-1912 - George Solti - Budapest, Hungary - d. 9-5-1997
musical director, conductor: "Chicago Symphony Orchestra"
11-16-1921 - Evelyn Goodkin - d. 9-5-2005
actor: Marge Minter "Myrt and Marge"; Penny Latham "Dan Harding's Wife"
12-24-1910 - Fritz Leiber - Chicago, IL - d. 9-5-1992
science fiction writer: "X Minus One"; "Future Tense"; "Audion Theatre"
12-24-1910 - Mitchell Ayres - Milwaukee, WI - d. 9-5-1969
bandleader: "Dunninger Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
Ron
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:30:04 -0400
From: David Loftus <dloft59@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: History Detectives
The recent discussion of "History Detectives" prompted some thoughts on my
part which, because they are more lengthy than the typical post here and
somewhat off-topic, I placed on "American Currents," the blog for which I
write on social, political, economic, and cultural issues. You can find it
here:
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-- David Loftus
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:30:09 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 9-6 births/deaths
September 6th births
09-06-1881 - Charlie Dale - NYC - d. 11-16-1971
comedian: (Smith and Dale) "Al Jolson"; "Kate Smith"
09-06-1885 - Otto Kruger - Toledo, OH - d. 9-6-1974
actor: "Nobody's Children"
09-06-1888 - Joseph P. Kennedy - East Boston, MA - d. 11-18-1969
ambassador to Great Britain: "Ambassador Joseph Kennedy"
09-06-1889 - John Charles Thomas - Meyersdale, PA - d. 12-13-1960
singer: "John Charles Thomas Program"; "Westinghouse Program"
09-06-1889 - Louis Silvers - NYC - d. 3-26-1954
music director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
09-06-1894 - Billy Mills - Flint, MI - d. 10-20-1971
conductor: "Fibber McGee and Molly"; "Great Gildersleeve"; "Amos 'n'
Andy"
09-06-1899 - Billy Rose - NYC - d. 2-10-1966
creator-stager: "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"
09-06-1900 - Charles Kemper - Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-12-1950
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
09-06-1901 - Joseph Vitale - NYC - d. 6-5-1994
actor: "Great Plays"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
09-06-1902 - Morgan Beatty - Little Rock, AR - d. 7-4-1975
newscaster: "News of the World"
09-06-1904 - Maxie Rosenbloom - NYC - d. 3-6-1976
light heavyweight boxing champion, actor: "Slapsie Maxie Show"
09-06-1904 - Mildred Baker - Atlanta, GA - d. unknown
actor: "Roses and Drums"; "Cavalcade of America"; "By Kathleen Norris"
09-06-1904 - Ted Royal Dewar - Skedee, Oklahoma Territory - d. 3-27-1981
orchestrator: "Wayne King and His Orchestra"; Ted Weems and His
Orchestra"
09-06-1908 - Paul Lavalle - Beacon, NY - d. 6-24-1997
conductor: "Chamber Music Society of Lower Basin Street"; "Dinah Shore
Show"
09-06-1909 - Michael Gordon - Baltimore, MD - d. 4-29-1993
film director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
09-06-1911 - Eleazar Lipsky - d. 2-14-1993
district attorney, writer: "Indictment"
09-06-1914 - Ken Vogt - Wisconsin - d. 10-10-2002
disk jockey: WMIL; WFOX; WRIT Milwaukee, Wisconsin
09-06-1915 - Kleve Kirby - d. 3-5-1949
actor: John Murray "Today's Children"
09-06-1916 - Marie Green - Antrim, NH
vocalist: "Everything Goes"; "Hobby Lobby"; "Alec Templeton Time"
09-06-1917 - John Berry - The Bronx, NY - d. 11-29-1999
director: "Screen Director's Playhouse"
09-06-1918 - Jay Stewart - Summitville, IN - d. 9-17-1989
announcer: "Great Gildersleeve"; "Hollywood Barn Dance"; "Spotlight on
Music"
09-06-1919 - John Mitchum - Bridgeport, CT - d. 11-27-2001
actor: (Brother of Robert Mitchum) "This Is Your FBI"
09-06-1925 - Jimmy Reed - Dunleith, MS - d. 8-29-1976
blues singer, guitarist, harmonica playere: "One Night Stand"
09-06-1927 - Waring Jones - Minneapolis, MN - d. 1-10-2008
announcer: Armed Forces Radio
09-06-1930 - Bernard Jaffe - d. 8-2-1993
science writer: "Information, Please"
09-06-1934 - Jody McCrea - Los Angeles, CA - d. 4-4-2009
host" Armed Forces Radio Channel
09-06-1939 - Ray Barfield - Thomasville, GA
producer, host: "Shakespeare Scene by Scene"
September 6th deaths
01-22-1914 - Dick Willard - d. 9-6-2000
announcer, emcee: "The Strange Dr. Weird"; "Take it Easy Time"
02-07-1903 - Graeme Lorimer - Wyncote, PA - d. 9-6-1983
writer: "Maudie's Diary"
02-09-1914 - Ernest Tubb - Crisp, TX - d. 9-6-1984
singer: (The Texas Troubador) "Grand Ole Opry"
02-15-1910 - Vladimir Selinsky - Kiev, Russia - d. 9-6-1984
music: "The Doctor Fights"; "The FBI in Peace and War"; "The Electric
Theatre"
03-05-1881 - Toby Gremmer - Bainbridge, GA - d. 9-6-1981
actor: Hermit "The Hermit's Cave"
03-23-1910 - Akira Kurosawa, Tokyo, Japan - d. 9-6-1998
film director: NHK Tokyo, Japan
05-04-1886 - Shelton Brooks - Amesburg, Ontario - d. 9-6-1975
composer, author, pianist: "Cavalcade of Music"
06-27-1911 - Dr. Jay Morton - Hollywood, CA - d. 9-6-2003
Best know for the catchphrase "Look; up in the sky, etc." on "Superman"
07-04-1900 - Gertrude Lawrence - London, England - d. 9-6-1952
singer, actor: "Royal Gelatin Hour"; "Campbell Playhouse"; "Radio
Reader's Digest"
07-11-1914 - Tommy Bartlett - Milwaukee, WI - d. 9-6-1998
emcee: "Welcome Travlers"
07-18-1918 - Jane Frazee - Duluth, MN - d. 9-6-1985
vaudeville act with sister
09-06-1885 - Otto Kruger - Toledo, OH - d. 9-6-1974
actor: "Nobody's Children"
09-07-1908 - Max Kaminsky - Brockton, MA - d. 9-6-1994
jazz musician: :This Is Jazz"
09-26-1875 - Edmund Gwenn - Glamorgan, Wales - d. 9-6-1959
actor: Ebenezer Scrooge "Christmas Carol"; "Lux Radio Theatre
10-02-1909 - Alexander Raymond - New Rochelle - d. 9-6-1956
cartoonist: Created Flash Gordon and Jungle Jim
10-12-1935 - Luciano Pavarotti - Modena, Italy - d. 9-6-2007
tenor: "Metropolitan Opera"
11-14-1920 - Johnny Desmond - Detroit, MI - d. 9-6-1985
singer: "I Sustain the Wings"; "Philip Morris Frolics"; "Songs for Sale"
Ron
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