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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2003 : Issue 201
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
A Likely Intro to Classical Music [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
Various Follow-Up Comments [ Derek Tague <derek@[removed]; ]
Re: First Family albums [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed] ]
Re: Robert Stack on Radio [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed] ]
Re: Green Hornet [ "Shawn A. Wells" <swells@[removed] ]
Brace Beemer Day [ "Phil Stallings" <redryder@midwest. ]
Source for Book bargains on OTR [ "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2 ]
Reinventing the wheel [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
June Carter Cash -- RIP [ "Joe Cline" <[removed]@[removed] ]
Sunbeam Bread [ lawrence albert <albertlarry@yahoo. ]
theater five [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
Red Skelton [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Democratic Political Program [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Green Hornet---who is that guy? [ William Brooks <webiii@[removed]; ]
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:25:15 -0400
From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A Likely Intro to Classical Music
Dear Friends in the Ether:
Last week here on the Digest, my good buddy Jim Nixon (and several
others) answered my question about the Rheingold beer jingle & how it was
based on "The Student Waltz" by Emile Waldteufel. We had an interesting
follow-up about it off-list, which I thought made an interesting side-story.
Here it is below.
Thanks.
Derek Tague
"Jim Nixon" <ranger6000@[removed]; wrote:
Derek-
Thanks for the compliment. I would add that what knowledge I have of
classical music all started with the William Tell Overture however. Like
Reg Jones, I became extremely curious about the music used on the program,
and so began listening to everything classical at a very tender age! Drove
my parents nuts.
Salut!
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From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <ranger6000@[removed];
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:38 AM
Subject: Rheingold
Jim:
Please forgive the delay but I'm a few issues behind w/ the Digest. I
wanted to personally thank you for answering my nagging question about the
source of the Rheingold jingle. Who'd've ever thunk that your knowledge of
classical music & cultchuh doesn't begin & end w/ the "Wm. Tell O'ture" :)
Ether!
DT
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:09:55 -0400
From: Derek Tague <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Various Follow-Up Comments
Hi Gang:
Re: ARTHUR GODFREY:
With all this talk about Arthur Godfrey, I'm surprised we haven't heard
from my buddy Lee Munsick, "the Sage of Appomatox."
Incidentally, all you programmers of OTR (whether via radio, satellite, or
Internet streaming), I just want to remind you that the centennial
anniversary of Mr. Godfrey's birth occurs sometime this coming August. [Supply
us with a date, please, Ron "Mr. Birthday" Sayles]. I just hope that Arthur
Godfrey, whom A&E Biography dubbed "Broadcasting's Forgotten Pioneer," will
garner just as much attention as did Bing Crosby's 100th birthday did a couple
of week-ends ago.
Re: PAUL HARVEY's "THE REST OF THE STORY"
I have 3 paperbacks, which were issued in the late 1970s & early 1980s,
each containing 100 stories from the "TROTS" series. The author listed on all
three is Harvey's son Paul Aurandt. The books are called "Paul Harvey's 'The
Rest of the Story,'" "More Paul Harvey's 'The Rest of the Story,'" and
"Destiny" [I forgot the third one's subtitle, but believe "Rest of the Story"
is contained therein]. Harvey also issued a book full of humorous anecdotes
from his sub-feature "For What It's Worth" (also the name of the collection).
The only other book I know BY Paul Harvey is the virulent anti-Communist
title "Autumn of Liberty" from circa 1954.
Re: SUPER SUDS:
The Spike Jone & His City Slickers tune that includes the "Super Suds"
jingle (which Martin Grams, Jr., alluded to) is their version of Jack Benny's
theme song "Love in Bloom." This version includes "samples" from other earlier
Spike Jones hits & ends, somewhat anti-climactically, with the Super Suds
jingle.
Re: NORMAN CORWIN'S 1944 DEMOCRAT/FDR RALLY BROADCAST:
Would Prof. Biel or Prof. Yoggy or Col. Tollin tell us the story about
Jimmy Durante's slot being filled by some badly played organ music at the
conclusion of the rally, which sounded so bad, it prompted potential voters
to turn off their radios & not listen to the following [removed] broadcast? I
would try to recount it myself, but think such a monumental re-telling
requires the services of an OTR historian in the McLeodian mold [Elizabeth?].
Yours in the ether--
Derek Tague
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:15:47 -0400
From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: First Family albums
Patrick asked
Can anyone trade for, sell me a copy of this [First
Family album] on mp3 or cassette?
Both volume 1 and 2 of the First Family ablums are available on CD at
your corner music store or on the internet at [removed] or
[removed]. com or your favorite online site.
Gerry Wright
ZoneZebra Productions
San Francisco
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:15:26 -0400
From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Robert Stack on Radio
Mark wondered about appearances of Robert Stack on radio. Here is a list
of shows that I could find.
COMMAND PERFORMANCE
09-20-49 -- 393
CELESTE HOLM, Jerry Hilliard, Robert Stack
FAMILY THEATER
12-01-48 -- 94
World With A Fence
Frank Lehey (Notra Dame Coach), Robert Stack, Richard Webb, Gloria Blondell
02-22-50 -- 158
Spy, The
Jack Grayson, Robert Stack, Lilian Biaff
07-18-51 -- 229
House Where Time Stopped, The
Leo McCleary, Ann Blythe, Robert Stack
10-29-52 -- 291
These Thy Gifts
Gene Lockhart, Robert Stack
02-11-53 -- 305
Indispensable Man, The
Lisa Gaye, Robert Stack, Debra Padget
03-25-53 -- 311
Round Trip
Jack Bailey, Ann Blythe, Robert Stack
07-01-53 -- 325
Longest Hour, The
Loretta Young, Robert Stack, Gene Lockhart
02-17-54 -- 358
Different Drummer, The
Jeanette MacDonald, Robert Stack
07-06-55 -- 428
Today Is Sunday
Jeanne Crain, Robert Stack
08-31-55 -- 436
Big One, The
Robert Stack, Cecil Kelloway
LUX RADIO THEATER
01-16-50 -- 685
Mister Belvedere Goes To College
Clifton Webb, Coleen Gray, Robert Stack
09-21-54 -- 889
So Big
Ida Lupino, Robert Stack
SCREEN GUILD THEATER
04-20-52 -- 518
Bachelor Mother
Ann Sothern, Robert Stack
STARS IN THE AIR
01-31-52 -- 8
It Started With Eve
Charles Cobourn, Vanessa Brown, Robert Stack
Gerry Wright
ZoneZerbra Productions
San Francisco
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:16:07 -0400
From: "Shawn A. Wells" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Green Hornet
Greetings!
These couple of shows explains a few things:
11/4/47 # 831 Graft Crosses A Bridge
11/11/47 # 832 Too Hot To Handle
9/10/46 # 771 Death In The Dark
9/24/46 # 773 Underwater Adventure
I can't recall which ones specifically, but it's in two of these four. The
story revolved around Britt's Dad hiring a lady to investigate his son, or
something to that effect. Anyway, she finds out that he is the Hornet, and
eventually they both tell his dad. Also, you learn about the connection
between the Hornet (Reid Family in general) and the Lone Ranger.
Thanks
Shawn
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:16:42 -0400
From: "Phil Stallings" <redryder@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Brace Beemer Day
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As some of you know, May 3rd was our first Annual Brace Beemer/Lone Ranger
Cheerios Breakfast here in Mt. Carmel - the birthplace of Brace Beemer. With
little time and money to work with this year it still was a success.
Hadley's, a local cafe, gave up their Saturday morning business and hosted the
breakfast with General Mills supplying the Cheerios. Dick Fuss set up a
display featuring some of his Lone Ranger memorabilia. He has over 4000 items
in his collection. Beemer's third cousin, John Stelzer in the guise of "The
Old Ranger" told stories of Brace's life and history of the Lone Ranger.
Everyone got a free mask and a ride in a horse drawn wagon. Brace's daughter,
Barbara, conducted the drawing for two bicycles for the kids.
Plans are under way for a bigger event next year. Possibly two or three days
and a live broadcast. We're working on Brace Beemer Daniel (Brace's Grandson)
to join us and play the part of the Lone Ranger.
And, we are still working toward our goal of building a statue of Brace
Beemer/Lone Ranger here in Mt. Carmel.
Stay tuned for more exciting news from the birthplace of Brace Beemer.
Feel free to contact me with any questions and/or suggestions. Phil Stallings
redryder@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:23:41 -0400
From: "ellsworth o johnson" <eojohnsonww2@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Source for Book bargains on OTR
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This bookseller has many bargains on books about OTR. go to:
[removed]
and in the search block type: RADIO and hit enter.
This is one that I purchased titled THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMERICAN RADIO An A-Z
guide to Radio from Jack Benny to Howard Stern. published in 1996, 370 pages,
hardbound, illustrated.
This is called a publishers remainder---published at $ 60 . Hamiltons price $
[removed]
Ellsworth Johnson
Spokane, Wa
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:23:58 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Reinventing the wheel
From: Stephen Jansen ilamfan@[removed]
when transcribing a show . . . I'd spent time at the typewriter, hitting
the Fast-Forward and Rewind and Play buttons on the cassette
deck over and over and over,swearing that "I'll never do THIS again!".
Then I got my computer, and OTR on mp3. Night and day! Shrinking
the player so it fit in the upper corner of the word processing program,
just a single click to hear a sentence, another to pause it, type the
sentence, and back again. Learn the keystroke commands for your
mp3 player, and you don't even need to touch the mouse!
Somewhere around 115 years ago just such a mchine was already invented! It
was called the Dictating Machine and was designed to be easily used by a
transcribing typist with foot switches that enabled the typist to start,
start, and replay short segments with just a tap of a toe. The reason why
you are so amazed at the ease of transcribing from an MP3 is that you have
been unnessarily doing it the hard way by using an ordinary cassette
machine instead of one that was designed for the purpose. If you went to
an office supply store you could have found one that uses ordinary
cassettes. But over the years these machines have also used cylinders,
grooved belts, magnetic belts, grooved discs, magnetic discs, and tape
reels, cartridges, and cassettes of all types.
OTR Tie-In: ALL of these dictating machine formats have at some time
somewhere been used for recording radio broadcasts. Archives go crazy
trying to maintain or find some of these weird machines to play recordings
they have on some weird format. Mention was made a few days ago about some
WW II propaganda stations and questions as to whether recordings exist of
them. Both the [removed] and British governments had monitoring stations and
published daily written transcripts of important broadcasts from around the
world. The British still do this. In the WW II days these monitoring
stations used wax cylinder dictating machines to help the transcribers'
work, but most of the cylinders were routinely shaved and reused daily.
But there are thousands of these cylinders in the National Archives that
have not yet been cataloged or dubbed, so it is possible that there might
be some of these stations recorded on them. If Les Waffen of the Archives
is at the ARSC Conference in Phila in two weeks, I'll ask him about these.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:32:10 -0400
From: "Joe Cline" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: June Carter Cash -- RIP
June Carter Cash, the last surviving daughter of Mother Maybelle Carter
(the Original Carter Family) and wife of singer Johnny Cash, passed away
today of complications of heart surgury. She was seventy-three.
The original Carters ([removed], Sara, Maybelle) worked at a number of radio
stations around the country during the thirties, including XERA (I think
that's right) in Del Rio, Texas, one of the premier high-power Mexican
stations of that era, before ending their career at WBT in Charlotte in
1941. After the original act broke up, Maybelle and her daughters, Helen,
Anita and June, billed as Mother Maybelle & The Carter Sisters worked in
Knoxville, Tenn. and Richmond, Va. before moving to WSM in Nashville (where
their guitarist was one Chet Atkins) and the Grand Ole Opry.
June was a singer, songwriter (Ring Of Fire, a hit for husband-to-be Cash
in the early sixties), actress and comic. She was considered the equal of
the Queen of Country Comedy, Minnie Pearl, in the fifties, before she
studied acting in NYC (at the behest of director Elia Kazan) and rejoined
her family act.
June was married to honky-tonk singer Carl Smith in the fifties (their
daughter is country/rock singer Carlene Carter) before marrying Cash in the
late sixties. She and Cash appeared in a number of TV series together, and
June had a featured role in The Apostle, with Robert Duval.
(Sara and [removed] Carter had two children, Joe and Jeanette, both of whom
still live near Hiltons, Va. at the old Carter homestead.)
June was one of the increasingly few peformers of the "super-power"
stations still around. She will be missed.
Joe Cline
Charlotte
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:18:15 -0400
From: lawrence albert <albertlarry@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sunbeam Bread
Was Sunbeam
more widespread than just Indiana?
I can remember eating Sunbeam Bread back in the
fifties when I was a kid in Seattle. There was also a
large billboard advertising it we use to pass on the
highway all the time.
Larry Albert
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:18:49 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: theater five
In the 60s I used to listen to Theater Five on KGO I think between six
and 8:30 (yes, five), and then Claud the Magnificent (maybe Jim Dunbar,
but not sure), from 8:30 to 1030 [removed] Does anybody know how many Theater
Five shows there were and how many exist in collections? My favorate
shows were The Elevator with Edgar Staley and Flights of Angels with
Martin Gable, which is one of the saddest shows I can remember and
others. It was an interesting show and I was going to the school for the
blind in California (CSB) and didn't watch TV at all on Saturday nights.
Anyway, it was a good show and they were always different, so five shows
every saturday was great. Kurt
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:19:07 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Red Skelton
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:45:31 -0400
From: "Nichole Baxter" <lovingchrist19@[removed];
Did he really keep going over his sloted
time period all that much and thats why they gave him an hour show?
It makes a good story, but I don't think the network would give him an
hour show just for that reason. I'm sure it had to be because he was
that popular and merited it.
My favorite Red Skelton show, oddly enough, is one where Red wasn't
there. Apparently Red Skelton was sick for awhile, and other performers
appeared on his show to substitute. A commercial video that's out there
somewhere, called "Red Skelton: The Lost Episodes, Volume II," Ed
Sullivan plays Clem Kadiddlehopper, Sheriff Deadeye, and Freddy the
Freeloader.
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:19:56 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Democratic Political Program
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:46:34 -0400
From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
In the modern day, neither Warner Brothers nor NBC has enough control
over Martin Sheen to tell him to shut his trap, but I would have thought
back in the '40s, MGM, for example, would have been WAAAAAY too
iron-fisted and cautious to allow somebody like Judy Garland onto an
undertaking like this.
You might think that, but remember that Roosevelt and the Democrats were
the establishment at the time, and there was a war on. We've seen what a
foreign crisis can do for the image and job-approval ratings of a
previously not-very-popular President. Now imagine that it's much more
intense, and the President is already very popular.
The main difference is apparently that the Dems, in the half-century
since this 1944 broadcast, gradually ceded what we now call the wartime
'national security' issue to the GOP.
It wasn't gradually at all. It happened in the Vietnam War era. But
most of it is just public perception. I saw an opp-ed piece yesterday
which asserted that the elder Bush cut military expenditures and that
Clinton increased them, and that most of the smart weapons systems that
worked so well in Iraq were originated and developed under Clinton.
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:21:23 -0400
From: William Brooks <webiii@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Green Hornet---who is that guy?
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As I was reading the digest a couple of days ago I saw that someone
asked, in the Green Hornet series,who knew the secret identity of the
Green Hornet. At that same time I was listening to a couple of
episodes of the Hornet that answered that question.
In "Graft Crosses a Bridge" 11-4-47 we are told that a new female
reporter for the Daily Sentinal (Linda Travis) hid in the back seat
of a car to avoid the crossfire of a gunfight. It turns out this car
was the Black Beauty, the Hornet's car. Being afraid to be found in
the car she hunkers down and ends up being transported to the
Hornet's secret hide-away. There she confronts the Hornet and finds
out that he is in fact Brit Reed. She then admits to Reed that she is
really in the employ of Reed's father and that the old man had sent
her to find out what kind of a man Brit had become. That night Reed
called his father and asked him to come to him right away.
During the course of the show Reed convinces Linda that the Hornet is
really on the side of law and order. With her help the Hornet solves
the murder of kind old ferry boat owner. She is now absolutely sure
the Hornet is a good guy and all is well in the world. But
wait---what about the pending arrival of Brit's father?
The following show, "Too Hot to Handle" 11-11-47, finds Linda picking
up the kindly old gentleman (Brit's father Dan) at the train depot
where he was arriving from the west. She took him to Brit's apartment
where Brit admits to his father that he is the Green Hornet. The old
man is dimayed (he had once wanted Brit to offer a reward for the
capture of the Hornet) but with the help of Linda, Brit convinces
him that the Hornet is one of the good guys. The old man then asks
Brit "Who knows you are the Green Hornet". Brit replies, "Kato,
Linda, and now you". The old man then reflects on how as a youth he
rode with one of Brit's ancestors to help bring justice in the old
west. These line are delivered over the William Tell Overture.
Later in the show the old man, Dan, is having lunch with an old
friend of his, Jim Higgins, the Police Commish. Higgins tells Dan
that he is going to resign his position because he son is being
blackmailed. Dan tells him not to, that he knows who the Green Hornet
is and that they will help clear Higgins's son.
As a slight aside---I could swear the voice of Dan, Brit's father, is
John Todd, the voice of Tonto on radio. The voice of Jim Higgins
sounds a lot like Brace Beemer, The Lone Ranger, but I"m not as sure
of this voice as I am of John Todd's.
Anyhow, back to our story---The Green Hornet, Kato and Linda are able
to catch the blackmailer and save the reputation of Jim Higgins and
his son. The last scene has Higgins thanking Dan and wishing he could
meet the Green Hornet and thank him. Old Dan laughs and says, maybe
some day you will.
So---as of November 11, 1947 ( according to the shows themselves) the
only people who knew the secret identity of The Green Hornet are:
BRIT REED (the Hornet himself), KATO (the Hornets faithful valet),
LINDA TRAVIS (assistant to Dan Reed), and DAN REED (the father of the
Green Hornet and nephew of the Lone Ranger).
And now you know" the rest of the story";
Bill Brooks
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