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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2019 : Issue 37
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  My Little Margie                      [ A Joseph Ross <joe@[removed] ]
  Re: Bill (Big Tex) Bragg is gone      [ bobb lynes <iairotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:15:53 -0400
From: A Joseph Ross <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  My Little Margie
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My Little Margie was one of the small number of shows which started on
television and then went to radio.  I don't believe that any dramatic
programs were done on radio by recording or simulcasting the TV
version.  TV had too many visuals.  I notice that the televised CBS
Evening News is heard on some radio stations, and the same is done with
the PBS News Hour, and it often sounds bad because there are obvious
visuals that the radio audience can't see.  In the otr era. I think
stations and networks knew that and didn't try to produce the radio show
on the cheap.  Besides, there was still a large audience for radio, and
until circa 1953, there were some parts of the United States where there
were no television stations yet.

Game shows, like You Bet Your Life, Strike it Rich, etc., could be done
by running essentially the same show on radio and television, but even
there, there was sometimes different editing.  YBYL, for example, on
television usually started with Groucho revealing the Secret Word by
having the duck appear holding a sign showing the secret word.  On some
of the earlier shows, George Fenneman revealed the Secret Word to the TV
audience by opening his jacket, showing a sign underneath.  On some
later shows, they had a large swing come down with an attractive woman
holding a sign showing the Secret Word, and on one occasion, Harpo came
down on the swing.
On radio, the show started with Fenneman saying, "Ladies and Gentlemen,
the Secret Word is xxx."  Groucho would say, "Really?" and Fenneman
would answer, "You Bet Your Life!"

I've been trying to compile a list of the programs that started on
television and then expanded to radio.  So far, my list is:

Tom Corbett, Space Cadet
Space Patrol
Wild Bill Hickok
The Goldbergs (second radio series)
My Little Margie
Howdy Doody
Have Gun, Will Travel

Of these,  there are some special circumstances that bear comment. Space
Patrol actually began as a 15-minute weekday show on a local TV station
in Los Angeles.  Since the station was an ABC affiliate, the show
eventually went on the network, with both a radio and television
version, but the network radio show seems to have preceded the TV show
by a few weeks.

The Goldbergs, a sitcom about a Jewish immigrant family in New York,
started in 1929 on radio and ran until, I believe, 1945, during which
time the family eventually moved to the suburbs and the children grew
up.  The TV version, with the family back in a New York tenement and the
children little, started, with a new cast (except for Gertrude Berg, who
wrote, produced, and directed the show as well as staring in it), a few
years after the radio show ended.  And then a radio version of the TV
version, with the TV cast, was added.

Howdy Doody actually started as a short bit on the Triple-B Ranch, a
Saturday morning radio show for kids hosted by Bob Smith on WNBC in New
York.  The bit featured Smith talking with a country-bumpkin character
named "Elmer," who always greeted Smith with "Well, Howdy Doody."  Since
Smith didn't use a dummy or puppet, the kids in the studio audience
expressed their disappointment that they couldn't see "Howdy Doody."
That gave Smith the idea, first to change the name of the character to
Howdy Doody, and second to talk to the television people.  Several years
after Howdy Doody started on television, a radio version was added,
which was recorded in segments after each TV show.

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A. Joseph Ross, [removed] . 1340 Centre Street, Suite 103 . Newton, MA 02459
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:18:37 -0400
From: bobb lynes <iairotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Bill (Big Tex) Bragg is gone

I'm so sorry to hear about Bill Bragg's passing. He is in a far better place
[removed] more pain & worries.
2019 is turning into BAD NEWS all around us. Too many of our friends are
leaving us,too soon.
My heart-felt sympathy  & love goes out to Kim & the YUSA family.
Let's keep it going!
Rest in peace, Big [removed]
Bobb

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