Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #385
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Date: 12/4/2004 1:14 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 385
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Blog [removed]                      [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  Jughead on the Atkins Diet?           [ seandd@[removed] ]
  Nostalgic article                     [ seandd@[removed] ]
  The End of an [removed] We Know It     [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
  The "Original" Cinnamon Bear          [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
  Spencer Tracy on radio                [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  Onward & Upward (?)                   [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Radio Guides and Mirrors              [ JayHick@[removed] ]
  Re: radio on History Channel          [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:33:28 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Blog [removed]

Folks;

   Although lately the comments I've placed on the blog have been about poor
quality customer service, or satellite radio, or annoying blog spammers, I've
recently posted two entries dealing specifically with Old-Time Radio to which
I'd like to direct you. The one posted 12/03/04 deals with one six-year-old's
definition of "famous," and the one posted 12/04/04 talks about how Christmas
came a little early this year, and why I had to sweep cinnamon bun crumbs
from my post office box.

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<A HREF="[removed]">[removed]</A> (For AOL)

         Charlie

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:29:20 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jughead on the Atkins Diet?

Gee Hal, you looked pretty good at FOTR this [removed]'s with the sudden
drastic diet?

:)

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:25:02 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Nostalgic article

This article reminicsing about being born in the 1930s mentions many OTR
stars.  It's from a small newspaper in New Jersey, I believe.

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 18:26:20 -0500
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The End of an [removed] We Know It
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Listmaster Charlie sticks by the generally held contention that the true end
of OTR was 09/30/1962:

[ADMINISTRIVIA: For the purposes of this list (which _is_ in the FAQ), OTR
defines the period between the 1920s and September 30, 1962. Yes, some of you
think of CBSRMT as "OTR," others choose the end of Arthur Godfrey, still
others think "Star Wars" was Old-Time Radio; but the end of Suspense/Yours
Truly Johnny Dollar seems as reasonable a delimiter as any, so it's what we
use here.  --cfs3

That seems reaonable to me, Mr. Summers, except for one [removed] I was born at
the end of October 1962,
during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and, therefore, missed being born within the
"OTR era" by less than a
month. As a result, I like to exercise a little leeway by allowing for
"Theatre Five," "Arthur Godfrey,"
and "NBC Monitor"  so that I can half-truthfully say that I was born in the
OTR era.

 CBSRMT ran until 1982, which really is "stretching" it. Still, I'dlike to
make allowances for it so that my
pal Martin Grams Jr. can likewise say he was born during the days of OTR.

Yours truly, Johnny Ether, [removed] Derek Tague

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:13:48 -0500
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The "Original" Cinnamon Bear

By now, many of you are enjoying "The Cinnamon Bear." The dozens of  folks
who requested the lyrics to the  songs suggests to me that a great number
of families,  old and new, are discovering and re-discovering  the magic of
Maybeland. Good!

It might interest the readership to know that when The Cinnamon Bear
Brigade was active in the late eighties and early nineties,  our founder,
newspaperman Don Jensen of  Kenosha, Wisconsin, printed notes from a 1982
interview he had with CB's creator, Glan Heisch.

Glan told  Don that he had a stuffed  little bear when he was a kid. It had
shoebutton eyes and he named it Cinnamon Bear. When Glan's daughter
Catherine  was born in April, 1937,  he wrote a series of poems for her.
One was about his pet bear from childhood.  When TRANSCO recruited Glan
that same year to write a children's Christmas series, he had some original
light verse to draw upon. Amazingly. he wrote the script in just six weeks
ably assisted by his wife Elizabeth.

Glan explained that the music, songs, and bridge music, were all recorded
separately and inserted in the show.

He gives special credit to Don Honrath who wrote the music.  Honrath died
tragically of polio when he was 36 but Glan states that he was on the brink
of a brilliant music career.

Dennis Crow

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:26:47 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Spencer Tracy on radio

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Spencer Tracy radio appearances

Command Performance - 6/30/42
Command Performance - 12/25/44
Chase & [removed] - 7/24/38
Family Theater - 2/16/49
Family Theater - 12/20/50
Good News - 9/1/38
Good News - 929/38
Lux - 1/4/37
Lux - 2/7/38
Lux 10/25/37
Lux 3/27/39
Lux 1/8/40
Lux  12/1/41
Screen Guild Theater - 3/12/39
Screen Guild Theater - 4/21/40
YFY extraextra - ?

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:23:21 -0500
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Onward & Upward (?)

Dear Anthony & Gang-

Two factual asterisks to this sentence:

ANTHONY TOLLIN:

As for the relative lack of new radio [removed]

The lack is only seen when relative to the pre-TV days. Any cursory search of
the Web, or a Big Chain bookstore, will show more new works than ever since
then.

...part of the problem is the lack of modern-day radio networks to air them
on.

There is no lack of Air- and Web- cast venues CAPABLE of running same. There
IS a lack of those entities WILLING to - and especially, willing to pay a
responsible licensing fee, to support production costs.

Happy Holidays,
-Craig Wichman

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:46:54 -0500
From: JayHick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Guides and Mirrors

I still have 125 Radio Guides and 30 Radio Mirrors left.  If you want some or
all please contact me.  Jay Hickerson

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:09:28 -0500
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: radio on History Channel

From: "Jack Feldman" <qualitas@[removed];
Don't trust the History Channel.

Jack Feldman's revelation of some of the idiotic factual errors that the
History Channel will be re-inflicting the airwaves with when they re-run
"Modern Marvels: Radio" next Friday, reminds me of the program I consulted
on, The History of Stereos.  Thank Goodness they were so inept that they
forgot to put my name in the credits.  It was very late in production when
the independent production house that was producing this dreck came to me
for some photos of specific early stereo equipment.  Talking to them over
the phone I started to realize that they had some weird ideas that I tried
to correct, but it seems that these were already committed to film.  When
the show eventually aired it became evident that the main purpose of the
program was as a publicity stunt for Dolby which had underwritten the
project but had nothing to do with the development of Stereo.  Factual
error came flying at a pace of several per minute.  The most ridiculous was
the animation of a cutting head diagram that showed two separated halves of
a cutting stylus cutting the single-groove stereo groove.

The program I saw showed me that they don't check their facts.

Most of their productions are done by independent production houses, and
generally the only things they know is how to produce and edit films.  The
correctness of the content of the films is an inconvenience to them.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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