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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 231
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
my son jeep [ edcarr@[removed] ]
Ohio Magazine Article [ Udmacon@[removed] ]
DVD Discs for OTR [ "Ron Vanover" <rvanover@[removed] ]
RE. "Kitty was a prostitute" [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
Re: Onion Skin Paper [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Re: My Arthur Godrey Experience [ "barry" <barry@[removed]; ]
Olan Soule or Alan? [ David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@yahoo. ]
Phil Harris [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
Re: Benny show [ JackBenny@[removed] ]
#OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig [ charlie@[removed] ]
Eddie Rickenbacher [ wilditralian@[removed] ]
Gunsmoke Revisionism [ art-funk@[removed] ]
OTR Shows on CD [ John DOrazio <radioadventures@yahoo ]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:08:38 -0400
From: edcarr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: my son jeep
hi
a question, i looked up the following show in
jay hickerson book, "my son jeep" it states
that only 4- 15min programs were
broadcast, the reason i ask, i have come into
possession of shows 1, 2, 4 6, and 7 and ea
is 30min long, i can find no dates on the 16in
these are afrs, am i overlooking some little
thing?
ed
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:09:05 -0400
From: Udmacon@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ohio Magazine Article
The July 2004 issue of Ohio Magazine has a fascinating article on the former
Voice Of Amrerica transmitting facilities that operated at Bethany Station,
near West Chester and Mason, Ohio (still the site of the historic WLW-AM
transmitter).
Plans are afoot for a museum to honor this venerable VOA radio site; the
station's main building and antenna switch bay still stand.
The Ohio facilities with its once vast acreage of antenna farms visible from
I-75 between Dayton and Cincinnati, started transmitting to the world in
1944. It was silenced in 1995.
The West Chester Ohio Department Of Parks & Recreation is behind the plans
for this VOA Museum and Park; they can be reached at 513-759-7305.
Info on thearticle is at [removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:58:20 -0400
From: "Ron Vanover" <rvanover@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: DVD Discs for OTR
Mike Kerezman said:
The Problem I've run into is getting your stand alone DVD players to
recognize them. Its seems a lot of DVD players and HOME THEATER SYSTEMS have
trouble recogizing DVD burned as DATA DISCS.
I ran across this information earlier this week. It may be useful.
"CDR-Info, has determined that DVD-R is clearly the most compatible DVD
recording format on the market. To assess the compatibility level of DVD
Formats we created video content on a DVD writer using DVD-R/RW and +R/RW
media. These discs were then played back in other DVD players and DVD-ROM
drives -over a 1,000 combinations of drive, media and player were tested.
The content created on a DVD-R/RW writer using a write once DVD-R disc
played back in virtually all ([removed] percent) of the DVD players and DVD-ROM
drives used in the research. DVD+R discs played back in [removed] percent of the
devices tested.
Since the market for recording to DVD has developed, and different formats
have emerged, consumers have been concerned about the compatibility of their
DVD recording devices with DVD players and DVD-ROM drives. The findings
suggest that for customers who wish to create content on a DVD writer and
interchange this with other PC drives and consumer DVD players, DVD-R is the
clear format of choice."
Ron Vanover
Ron's 20:1 OTR Trading Post
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:58:48 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE. "Kitty was a prostitute"
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I was asked to post this by my friend from Germany:
"What a coincidence! Did you know that the Nazis had
a "Salon Kitty" in Berlin? Here SS-trained prostitutes
did 2 jobs there: while executing their profession they
had to get top secret information from their "clients" -who
came from diplomatic and military circles- in their weak moments.
Every room had a microphone which was linked to disc recording
machines, yet these discs have never been found. Before the fall of
the
communist regimes we supposed they could be in GDR archives. But,
as said, no one knows anything about them.
Bernard Wichert, Germany
b_wichert@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:59:24 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Onion Skin Paper
On 7/13/04 6:07 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I'm amazed too, because ONLY AN IDIOT would type a script on
onion skin paper!
Nonetheless, it *was* done, at least by some programs, for carbon-copy
purposes. For example, all 4091 episodes of the serial "Amos 'n' Andy"
consisted of one original and at least two carbons, the latter being on
onionskin. Usually Charles Correll and Bill Hay broadcast from these
onionskin copies, with Freeman Gosden working from the original. (And no,
they didn't drop pages -- the performers worked seated at a table, with
the pages flat on the table in front of them, and the spent pages were
quietly slid to the side.)
Gosden once explained that, for nearly the entire network run of the
serial, the performers were using up an enormous hoard of onionskin paper
purchased in 1929 by their secretary Louise Summa, who apparently got a
deep discount from some Chicago office-supply distriburor for buying in
quantity. When the paper was delivered, Correll and Gosden were startled.
"We're glad you got a good deal on it," Gosden told her, "but do you
really think we're going to be on the air *that long?*"
Elizabeth
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:47:52 -0400
From: "barry" <barry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: My Arthur Godrey Experience
Actually I never had an Arthur Godfrey experience but when I was a wee tot
my Dad did. He said that he witnessed an accident in which Godrey's wife
was hit by a truck while crossing the street. Her back was broken but
no-one knew that for sure. Of course they didn't know who she was at the
time, either.
Anyway the driver wanted to carry her out of the street and my Dad said no
that that could be dangerous and he should wait for the ambulance. The
driver insisted, my Dad insisted and they got in a fight, in which my Dad
was seriously beaten up. But they said later that it saved her life.
Anyway he says he felt great about it and even more so when he found out who
she was. He's was a flight instructor and a big fan of Arthur Godfrey who
was already big in aviation.
And then he got a thank you note and a $5 check from Arthur Godfrey. He
says he returned the check and the thank you note and made my Mother stop
smoking Chesterfields, Godfrey's sponsor at that time. He said he would
have been overjoyed about the note had there been no check. Or if the check
was enough to cover what it cost him. But he thought a $5 tip was
insulting.
I heard this story told a number of times over the years. I have no doubt
that it's basically true and even less doubt that there's a bit of
exaggeration here and there, knowing my Dad. But he still insists that's
exactly what happened.
Barry
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:48:57 -0400
From: David Phaneuf <david_phaneuf@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Olan Soule or Alan?
I was hunting the internet for a relatively lesser
known actress whose star faded in the 50's, and who
died at the young age of 52, Cathy Downs. In midst of
my search I came across a reference to Olan Soule but
his name is listed as Alan Soule. Is this merely a
editorial mistake, or did he sometimes go by Alan? In
doing a further search on the name Alan Soule, there
appears to be numerous sites in which he has this
name, rather Olan,
Here is the link to the original site I came upon:
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Listening in,
Dave Phaneuf
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:49:54 -0400
From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Phil Harris
While surfing the internet, I came upon this site regarding Phil Harris
[removed] It gives a time frame for
events in his personal and showbiz life. Three things about his life became
known to me for the first time in my life. First, he was born in Linton,
Indiana. For some reason I always assumed he was born in the south. Second,
his full given name at birth was Wonga Phillip Harris (Wonga?) Finally, his
adopted son Phil Harris Jr. was born in 1935 and died in 2001. I never was
aware of his son. I knew that Phil and his wife Alice Faye had two daughters
and often their characters were a part of Phil and Alice's radio program
series.
There is one area I am still a little fuzzy about. How accomplished was Phil
as a musician? Did he play one instrument or a variety of instruments?
Regards,
Ken Dahl
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:01:45 -0400
From: JackBenny@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Benny show
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Allen Wilcox writes:
When was the last recorded live Jack Benny show
Radio show, I presume you mean? Technically I could be a smart aleck and
say they ALL were live, but you probably mean broadcast live. I know that
some
shows were transcribed for rebroadcast as far back as 1941 on at least one
military base. But as far as the date when ALL shows were transcribed ahead
of time and broadcast later has so far eluded me.
Some may say that it was around 1948 or 1949, because that's the claimed
date when the proposal was put to Mary to record her lines at home and have
them
edited into the show later. Obviously, a show couldn't be done live on the
air if post-production editing of Mary's lines were required. However,
Mary's remote broadcasts from her bedroom were not a consistent thing, and
she
appeared live and in person herself on periodic shows into the 50s. Were
any of
those done live on air? I don't know yet.
and how long did the reruns play?
The "Best of Benny" rebroadcasts ran from 10-28-56 to 6-1-58.
Did CBS run the shows even when Jack went to television?
Jack went to television in 1950, so he was doing double-duty with both the
radio and television shows until 1955. Very impressive.
If so I gues you might have been real lucky to hear him on radio one
night then to see him and the gang on tv.
The television show was on CBS Sunday at 7:30PM from 1950 to June of 1959.
So people with both entertainment appliances could turn off their radio and
turn on their televisions sets for an entire hour of Benny enjoyment. The
radio show often made mention of this.
By the way, did Phil Harris join Jack on his tv
program? I know that the rest was there, but I did not
know about Harris.
Phil left the Benny show in 1952, and very few television shows had been
done by that time. Strangely enough, I recently saw the show from 11-4-1951
with Dorothy Shay, and Bob Crosby walks out and sings a song. And this was
almost a year before Bob Crosby took over the orchestral duties from Phil
Harris
on the radio show. Phil did appear as a guest on the show of 10-5-58, and I
need to do more research to confirm which shows, if any, he appeared on
before his departure from the regular series. I've heard he was on one or
two,
but haven't confirmed it yet.
And let's hear it for OTR Digest members who attend the San Francisco Silent
Film Festival! Good taste extends to ALL media!
--Laura Leff
President, IJBFC
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:39:18 -0400
From: charlie@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!
A weekly [removed]
For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio. We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over six years, same time, same channel! Started by Lois Culver, widow
of actor Howard Culver, this is the place to be on Thursday night for
real-time OTR talk!
Our "regulars" include OTR actors, soundmen, collectors, listeners, and
others interested in enjoying OTR from points all over the world. Discussions
range from favorite shows to almost anything else under the sun (sometimes
it's hard for us to stay on-topic)...but even if it isn't always focused,
it's always a good time!
For more info, contact charlie@[removed]. We hope to see you there, this
week and every week!
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:40:09 -0400
From: wilditralian@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Eddie Rickenbacher
David Phaneuf writes about wishing he had discussed Eddie Rickenbacher
with his elderly friend more. If he wants to know memories of Eddie, I
can put him in touch with my wife's uncle, who is 90 and still entirely
alert and computerized. A friend of his -- who was an employee of
Eddie's -- set up a dinner engagement among Eddie and my wife's Uncle
Jerry and himself. It seemed that Eddie wanted to begin equipping all of
his Eastern Airlines planes with communication radios. Jerry was a radio
electronics guru, and also a pilot, so, during the course of the evening,
Eddie hired Jerry to equip all his planes with radios and, when he wasn't
doing that, fly left seat as a captain. They became friends, but the
thing was broken up when Jerry got drafted. He was expecting a 6-month
hitch, and then the reserves, and Eddie was hoping to get him back.
Well, his 6-month hitch would have been over in January of 1942, and the
Japs had a different idea. 6 months led to a retirement as a full-bird
colonel. Eddie then got drafted, too. After the war they ran into each
other again at a book signing, and it was a great reunion.
Regards,
Jim Arva
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:56:00 -0400
From: art-funk@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gunsmoke Revisionism
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In Digest No. 230 Mike Kerezman compared and contrasted the level of violence
on the radio and television versions of Gunsmoke. I'm in general agreement
with Mike. I listened to Gunsmoke on the radio for several years before ever
seeing it on TV. I've also listened to radio episodes more recently having
purchased them from several sources. My opinion is that the radio series was
much "edgier" than the TV series. Indeed, William Conrad's Matt Dillon seems
a rougher even vengeful character in comparison to the one portrayed by James
Arness. Chester Proudfoot seems very different than Chester Good. Doc on
radio is sounds much less self-assured than on television. Certainly the
characters were created by the radio writers but the television writers seem
to have developed them in different directions than the creators. Well,
that's my $.02 worth.
Regards to all,
Art Funk
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:50:55 -0400
From: John DOrazio <radioadventures@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR Shows on CD
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Looking to buy used copies of OTR Shows, on CD. I'm on a butget,but would like
to build a collection of OTR Shows for my enjoyment. Thanks !
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