Subject: [removed] Digest V2006 #196
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 7/20/2006 2:20 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2006 : Issue 196
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  I thank you, Larry Talbot thanks you  [ Wich2@[removed] ]
  Art Gilmore                           [ "[removed]" <asajb2000@ ]
  Charlie Chan articles                 [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Western                               [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
  Day of rest                           [ "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed] ]
  Re: Mickey Spillane                   [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  Inner Sanctum and Lon Chaney Jr       [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Remember Wenn                         [ "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed] ]
  A bit more on [removed]                 [ "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed] ]
  The Comedy Show                       [ Dan <teac35@[removed]; ]
  Father Knows Best                     [ "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed]; ]
  Western scripts                       [ "whhsa" <whhsa@[removed]; ]
  7-20 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Re: Yours Truly Johnny Dollar episod  [ "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@worldn ]
  A Note Of Triumph                     [ mikerrigan@[removed] ]
  Elgin Thanksgiving Special            [ Martin Fass <watchstop@frontiernet. ]
  "Comedy Saturday Night," LIVE webcas  [ Nita Hunter <otradiogrl@[removed]; ]
  Same Time Same Station                [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:17:29 -0400
From: Wich2@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  I thank you, Larry Talbot thanks [removed]

(...and several on-list "Michaels" thank you!)

From: "Jonathan  Sweet" _sweetedit@[removed]_
(mailto:sweetedit@[removed])

Out of town and away from my collection right now, but I know there is  an
episode of Abbott & Costello that co-starred Chaney (Jr.)

Thanks for responding, Jonathan.
When you get back, perchance we can work out an off-list trade?

Best,
-Craig

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:17:49 -0400
From: "[removed]" <asajb2000@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Art Gilmore

I happened to download a Dragnet and an Adam-12
episode to show my kids what I watched when I was
growing up and also because I haven't seen these shows
since the 1980's.  The Adam-12 episode featured Art
Gilmore as the watch commander and Howard Culver as a
liquor store owner.  Peggy Webber was also featured as
was Harry Bartell.  This program originally aired in
the late 1960's.  Was it common for such programs to
contain such a plethora of former radio actors.  Was
it because they were newly-unemployed and available
for work or was it a tribute to Jack Webb that he
hired people he might have worked with in radio or
people he knew from radio?

Andy Blatt

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:18:17 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Charlie Chan articles

On Wednesday, July 19, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Brian Taves wrote:

Can anyone direct to any good articles etc on Chan on radio?  I have
the info from the usual reference sources, but that is all.

My  archives includes the following articles (none in electronic form,
of course):

"Charlie's Chan's Poppa:  Earl Derr Biggers"   by Barbara Gregorich in
Timeline Magazine of Ohio Historical Society, Jan-Feb 1999

"Around the World with Charlie Chan" by Charles P. Mitchell in BIG
REEL, Jan 2000

"Charlie Chan on Radio" by Jack French, NARA News, Summer 1980

Jack French
Editor:  RADIO RECALL
[removed]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:18:27 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Western

Hi Everybody,

regarding the thread of producing a light western show as a re-creation, I
would suggest  checking out the Six Shooter.  Three shows that come to mind
are Bret act on the stage, and Bret in charge of a food tasting contest.
Another one is where Bret marries    off his aunt.  I believe   that this
was one of the very best series on radio.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:18:43 -0400
From: "Holm, Chris " <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Day of rest

In digest #195, Sean Dougherty pointed us to a column from the Sheboygan
Press.  And while it's nice to see the Jack Benny program getting a
shout out, I believe I share some of his reservations about the rest of
the article.

I, for one, enjoyed a snicker when the article talked about Sunday being
a day of rest, and of the fancy Sunday dinners mom cooked while still
wearing her "Sunday Best".  Evidently, it wasn't a day of rest for Mom,
just for hardware store owners.

-chris holm

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:32:01 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Mickey Spillane

While many mystery writers DID first "eschew" (Gezundheitt!) Spillane's
work--

By the '80s, if not before, there had been a massive turnaround in the
mystery writers [removed]

They came to respect Spillane's work, at least for its page-turning
spine-tingling-ness, and the vast success he had had with a pretty
standard hard-boiled character.

Also, while the politics were always a little harsh, what had seem
shocking in terms of grue, was fairly tame, by the '[removed]

On a personal level, Spillane was also immensely [removed]

It's fun to note, some of his earliest work was creating short-short
stories/fiction fillers, fo such comic books, as CAPTAIN [removed]

Jim Burns
(Who, like Mike Hammer, also has an office, somewhere near Broadway  ;-)

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:35:41 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Inner Sanctum and Lon Chaney Jr

If memory serves, Junior Chaney did a few other radio things as well
(perhaps an INNER SANCTUM or LIGHTS OUT-type piece?)

Lon Chaney did not do much radio because he was known for drinking too much
- a risk radio produers and directors avoided like the plague.  (Case in
point: John Carradine who was the announcer for a Norman Corwin radio drama.
  He got drunk between East Coast and West Coast productions so someone else
filled in for him for the West Coast performance.)  Chaney appeared on the
Abbott and Costello show once (more than likely if it was 1948, it was for
publicity purposes for ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN).

For Inner Sanctum, Chaney appeared ONLY once.  And contrary to what
reference guides have stated, he did NOT appear on the show to help
publicize the six Inner Sanctum movies Universal released in theaters (this
is obvious since his appearance on the radio show was six months before they
began filming the first INNER SANCTUM movie).

Episode #118  "THE RING OF DOOM"  Broadcast April 4, 1943
Starring: Lon Chaney Jr.
Story:  Again cast as a character named Lennie (a character name he
immortalized in his performance in the film OF MICE AND MEN in 1939),
Chaney, a tough New York dancer, finds himself captivated by a circus named
Lara.  She is a beautiful nightclub snake dancer, and the ill-fated alliance
brings death to the charmer, but not before she has contrived Lennie's doom,
as well.  From then on, it becomes a free-for-all beyond the great divide.

Trivia, etc.  When the Ringling brothers, barnum & Bailey circus went up in
flames - a similar circumstance occurred on this drama the same week, as
this episode depicted a circus background with a fiery climax.  A recording
of this episode is not known to exist.

On the subject of Raymond Edward Johnson, he did leave for the Army and Paul
McGrath was his permanent replacement.  That's the reason why Johnson left
Inner Santum.  Two stories circulate (depending on who you talk to, Raymond
Edward Johnson interview recordings and Himan Brown's story) about the
reason why Johnson never replaced the permanent McGrath.  One is that Himan
Brown never invited Johnson back and Johnson never asked to come back.  The
other story is that Johnson sent his agent to represent him and Brown told
him he doesn't deal with agents and turned Johnson down.

Either way, Brown and Johnson NEVER got along well behind the microphone and
it remained that way after Johnson left.

Horror hosts:
Raymond Edward Johnson   January 7, 1941 to May 15, 1945
House Jameson    two or three weeks from late January 1941 to mid-February
1941
Berry Kroeger   a few summer weeks of 1942, a few summer weeks of 1943, and
May 22, 1945
Paul McGrath    May 29, 1945 to October 5, 1952

Info from INNER SANCTUM MYSTERIES: BEHIND THE CREAKING DOOR  (2002, OTR
Publishing)

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:55:18 -0400
From: "Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed];
To: "OTR" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Remember Wenn

I just finished reading Rupert Holmes mystery, 'Swing' which is set in the
SF Bay Area of 1940,  especially the Claremont Hotel in Oakland (still going
strong), Oakland itself, Berkeley and Treasure Island at the time of the
Exposition.   Very enjoyable.  I checked out his website and was pleased to
read that he is completing work on a musical version of 'Remember Wenn'.
No date given.

Stay tuned,
Irene

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:55:38 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <loiseula@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A bit more on [removed]

A bit more on [removed] (Radio Actors' Telephone Exchange) in Hollywood
(Hollywood 1-010 I believe).

Yes, almost all actors subscribed to RATE - it was important to them.  In
each lobby - CBS, ABC, NBC, Mutual - there was a phone connected directly to
RATE.  At any break in a rehearsal, or at the end of any show, the actors
made a bee-line for the phones to see if they had any calls for other shows.

The conversation:
RATE:  "Rate".
ACTOR:  "Howard Culver"
RATE: " Howard, Producer So&So wants you for Such&Such show on Tuesday,
10AM - 2PM."
ACTOR:" I am available for that show. " (Hooray, it was always good to be
available.)
If you had a conflict, you told RATE that you could not do the show.  (It
was nice to have conflicts - that meant that you were working.)
RATE would then call the Producer and notify him If you could accept the
call.

Lou Lauria owned RATE, and yes, he married (as his second wife) talented
actress Betty Lou Gerson.

Thanks, Stuart Lubin, for the memories!

Lois Culver
Mrs. Howard Culver

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:56:02 -0400
From: Dan <teac35@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Comedy Show

 Hello All!
  Just today, I remembered a program called "The
Comedy Show" This program - from memory - aired on WMT
600 back in the early 80's.
 Program contained snippets from OTR and each show
would have a theme (ie: Halloween) depending on the
time of the year.
 I seem think that Dick Cavett was the host of this
program and it possibly was a syndicated series on
records as I recall on occasion they would "stick" or
skip! (gotta love that Quality Control!)
 Is there any info on this series and/or are these
recordings available for listening or purchase?

 Have A Great Day!
Dan

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:56:57 -0400
From: "Bob C" <rmc44@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Father Knows Best

I recently bought a collection of Father Knows Best (Vol. 1) from
Radio Archives ... and though I can't fault the quality of the
sound, I wish I had re-read John Dunning's description before I
bought them. These are from the 1950 season ... and boy, are they
bad. Or as Bud says (over and over and over again), "Gee whiz!"
or "Holy cow!" or "Good gosh!" Or as Father says at the close of
each segment prior to the commercial, "Oh, no!"

I didn't realize this show was ever that bad. I remember it, I
guess, from the last season, 1953 (I was 8 years old), when
Father was incredibly patient and wise. THIS Jim Anderson is a
whiner ... snippy, snotty and insulting to his wife and kids.
Quite a shock! To quote another tiresome line from the show (by
all the characters), "It certainly is (was)!" Seems to me, writer
Ed James didn't strain himself on this program at all.

I don't recall exactly when the program went off the air (Dunning
says Nov. 19, 1953), but I do know that about that time and on up
until TV finally came to our house in June or July of 1955,
listening to the radio was sad, as so many shows drifted away.
Although it helped having those five nights a week strips (like
Fibber McGee and Johnny Dollar, etc.), it wasn't quite the same.

Bob Cockrum

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:56:18 -0400
From: "whhsa" <whhsa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Western scripts

On Friday, July 14, 2006, at 06:18 AM,Randy Story wrote:

I am still searching for OTR scripts and I want to thank all of the
digesters who have sent emails or called to help me in this effort. I am
looking for western scripts in particular, with 'Hopalong Cassidy' or 'Roy
Rogers'

Dear Randy;
Peace.
I can furnish copies of Straight Arrow radio scripts. All Straight Arrow
script were written by Sheldon Stark. Contact me off list if you want a
copies.
Manituwah
William Harper
whhsa@[removed]

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:06:35 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  7-20 births/deaths

July 20th births

07-20-1869 - Howard Thurston - d. 4-13-1936
conjuror: "Thurston, the Magician"
07-20-1881 - Hugh Sothern - Anderson County, KS - d. 4-13-1947
actor: John Marshall "Those We Love"
07-20-1890 - Theda Bara - Cincinnati, OH - d. 4-13-1955
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
07-20-1890 - Verna Felton - Salinas, CA - d. 12-14-1966
actor: Blossom Blimp "Sealtest Village Store"; Liz Pierce "Judy
Canova Show"
07-20-1896 - Harry Horlick - Tiflis, Russia - d. 7-xx-1970
conductor: "A&P Gypsies"
07-20-1905 - Murray Forbes - Chicago, IL - d. 1-28-1987
actor: Willie Fitz "Ma Perkins"; Benny Fox "Foxes of Flatbush"
07-20-1907 - Art Jarrett - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-23-1987
singer, bandleader: "Coca Cola's Spotlight Parade"; "Fitch Bandwagon"
07-20-1908 - Jerry Desmonde - Middlesbrough, England - d. 2-11-1967
actor: "Crime Classics"
07-20-1910 - Bill Goodwin - San Francisco, CA - d. 5-9-1958
announcer, actor: "George Burns and Gracie Allen Show"; Johnny
Fletcher "Johnny Fletcher"
07-20-1912 - Tom McDermott - McHenry, IL - d. 3-6-1996
producer, director: "Portia Faces Life"; "Rosemary"; "Wendy Warren
and the News"
07-20-1918 - Cindy Walker - Mart, TX - d. 3-23-2006
songwriter: "National Barn Dance"; "Spike Jones"; "Lifebouy Show"
07-20-1919 - [removed] Stevens - Los Angeles, CA - d. 6-13-1994
actor: Lois Graves "Junior Miss"
07-20-1938 - Natalie Wood - San Francisco, CA - d. 11-29-1981
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"

July 20th deaths

01-01-1867 - Lew Fields - NYC - d. 7-20-1941
comedian: (Weber and Fields) "The Eveready Hour"; "George Jessel Show"
01-11-1896 - Armina Marshall - d. 7-20-1991
theatre guild supervisor: "The Theatre Guild on the Air"
01-23-1893 - Franklin Pangborn - Newark, NJ - d. 7-20-1958
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
02-09-1923 - Milena Miller - d. 7-20-2001
vocalist: "The Stu Erwin Show"
03-03-1920 - James Doohan - Vancouver, Canada - d. 7-20-2005
actor: "You Never Had It So Good"; "The Investigator"
03-27-1907 - Mary Treen - St. Louis, MO - d. 7-20-1989
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-31-1908 - Les Damon - Providence, RI - d. 7-20-1962
actor: Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin Man"; Michael Waring "The Falcon"
04-09-1900 - Allen Jenkins - NYC - d. 7-20-1974
actor: "Harold Lloyd Comedy Theatre"; "Hollywood Hotel"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
05-13-1912 - Helen Craig - San Antonio, TX - d. 7-20-1986
actor: "Crime Does Not Pay"
06-06-1901 - Jan Struther - London, England - d. 7-20-1953
author: "Information Please"; "Mrs. Miniver"
07-02-1910 - Earl Robinson - d. 7-20-1991
composer: "The Pursuit of Happiness"
07-12-1912 - Will Bradley - Newtown, NJ - d. 7-20-1978
bandleader: "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Saturday Night Swing Session"
07-23-1916 - Sandra Gould - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-20-1999
actor: Lucy Twitchell "Sad Sack"; Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
10-09-1910 - Phil Hanna - River Forest, IL - d. 7-20-1957
actor: Three Cheers "Al Pearce Show"
11-19-1923 - Frank Reynolds - East Chicago, IN - d. 7-20-1983
newscaster: Chicago radio
xx-xx-1881 - Claude Cooper - London, England - d. 7-20-1932
actor: Pegleg Gaddis "Moonshine and Honeysuckle"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Home state of James Daly
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:32:19 -0400
From: "Stewart Wright" <stewwright@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Yours Truly Johnny Dollar episodes from
 1960 and why they were preempted

Jim Taylor asked about some pre-emptions of YOURS TRULY JOHNNY DOLLAR
episodes in 1960.

CBS Sunday 1960 Time Slots:
All times listed are Eastern Time.

During most of 1960, the CBS Sunday drama line-up was:
YOURS TRULY JOHNNY DOLLAR 5:00 or 5:05 PM
SUSPENSE at 5:30 PM
HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL at 6:00 or 6:05 PM
GUNSMOKE at 6:30 PM
(SUSPENSE  and HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL left the air on 11/27/1960.  SUSPENSE
returned to the airwaves on June, 25, 1961, replacing GUNSMOKE.)

Why was Yours Truly Johnny Dollar
preempted on April 10?  I doubt if it was
a major news event or sports event because
the other CBS Radio Network dramas
Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel and
Gunsmoke aired that day

Pre-emption - April 10, 1960
Due to CBS coverage of The Masters Golf Tournament.

Since YOURS TRULY JOHNNY DOLLAR occupied the earliest of the CBS Sunday
drama time slots, it was more prone to pre-emptions from afternoon sporting
events than the later airing series.

The same question applies for the YTJD
programs of  July 10, 1960 and July 24, 1960.

Pre-emption - July 10, 1960
Pre-empted by Democratic Convention Preview.  Special Program from Los
Angeles.
The 1960 Democratic Convention was held in Los Angeles July 11-15, 1960.

Pre-emption - July 24, 1960
Pre-empted by Republican Convention Preview.  Special Program from Chicago.
The 1960 Republican Convention was held in Chicago July 25-28, 1960.

Was it a common practice if a program
was to be  preempted next week to tell
listeners or not say  anything, with the
exception of course of breaking news?

The practice varied.

YOURS TRULY JOHNNY DOLLAR episodes were pre-recorded at least a week in
advance of their broadcast date; sometimes as much as three or four weeks in
advance.  Sometimes the network knew about pre-emptions in time to mention
them in the JOHNNY DOLLAR broadcast the week before they occurred.  (See
below example.)  In some cases, they did not have sufficient advance warning
to do so.

At the end of "The Crystal Lake Matter" on August 17, 1956, both Bob Bailey
and the announcer mentioned that YOURS TRULY JOHNNY DOLLAR would be
pre-empted by the Republican Convention until, Friday August 24, 1956 when
"The Kranesburg Matter" started its six part run.

Could it be that three YTJD episodes aired that we
don't know about?

No, they were just simply pre-empted.

Signing off for now,

Stewart

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:32:29 -0400
From: mikerrigan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  A Note Of Triumph
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According to the new issue of TV Guide, CINEMAX will run the 2006
Oscar-winning short about Norman Corwin entitled "A Note Of Triumph: The
Golden Age of Norman Corwin."  It is scheduled to air on Thursday, 7/27 at 7
pm EST.

Mike K

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:18:27 -0400
From: Martin Fass <watchstop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Elgin Thanksgiving Special

Maybe  many of you are already familiar with the Elgin Watch Company's
Two Hours of Stars, aired on NBC in 1948, and available in excellent
quality at: [removed]

For those who are unfamiliar with it, this is to urge you to listen,
especially to the final twenty stirring minutes.  Red Skelton has often
been known for excessive sentimentality, but for me THIS time.  It is a
beautiful program sequence both for his sketch, and a closing piece
spoken by Don Ameche.

There was a certain risk taken, I believe, in Red Skelton being so
outspoken about racial and ethnic prejudice, conditions which continue
with us to such a vast degree, today.

The Elgin Watch Company is no more, and this appears to be the only one
of the Elgin holiday specials aired on NBC that has been preserved;
fortunately, in fine quality.  Cheers to Real OTR for having it!

--Martin Fass

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:56:35 -0400
From: Nita Hunter <otradiogrl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Comedy Saturday Night," LIVE webcast
 Saturday, 7/22
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Spend your Saturday night listening, laughing and chatting about your
favorite OTR Shows this Saturday night, 7/22 as Radio Classics Theater host
Steve Brown presents "Comedy Saturday Night" from 9 to 11 [removed] central
standard time.

  Listen to episodes of "Fibber McGee & Molly," "Our Miss Brooks," and "The
Jack Benny Show."  Then, email or call into the show to add your "two cents."

  This Internet only webcast can be accessed at the following URL:

  [removed]
  Press the "Listen Live" button on the top of the page.

  For listeners who'd like to email:  wgtdradio@[removed]
For listeners who'd like to call-in, the DIRECT line is: 262-564-8450

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:05:22 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Same Time Same Station

Hi Everybody,

does any one know the history of the radio series Same Time Same Station.
It feature OTR and radio personalities  memories of the Golden Days of
Radio.  I understand it was heard on KRLA in Pasadena in the 1970s.  I now
understand the series ran in WA with a different host.  Did the series
show up any where else in the USA.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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