Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #182
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Date: 5/23/2002 1:03 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 182
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Nig  [ lois@[removed] ]
  Jekyll and Hyde                       [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Johnnie Dollar                        [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Shareing OTR with others              [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
  Jekyll and Hyde                       [ "Mark E. Higgins" <paul_frees_fan@a ]
  Francis X Bushman on Batman           [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
  TV to Radio 2                         [ AandG4jc@[removed] ]
  Re: Gerald Mohr's Johnny Dollar audi  [ Ga6string@[removed] ]
  DR JEKYLL AND MR HYDE                 [ "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Re: Cowboy help?                      [ "Garry D. Lewis" <glewis@[removed] ]
  famous firsts                         [ Michael Berger <makiju@[removed]; ]
  Re:The Altman-Belafonte Project       [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Boris Karloff                         [ Musiciantoo47@[removed] ]
  Hello Again and Lum and Abner         [ "Matt Votisek" <mattvotisek@hotmail ]

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 04:52:08 -0400
From: lois@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  #OldRadio IRC Chat this Thursday Night!

A weekly [removed]

For the best in OTR Chat, join IRC (Internet Relay Chat), StarLink-IRC
Network, the channel name is #OldRadio.  We meet Thursdays at 8 PM Eastern
and go on, and on! The oldest OTR Chat Channel, it has been in existence
over five years, same time, same channel!

Our numerous "regulars" include one of the busiest "golden years" actors in
Hollywood; a sound man from the same era who worked many of the top
Hollywood shows; a New York actor famed for his roles in "Let's Pretend" and
"Archie Andrews;" owners of some of the best OTR sites on the Web;
maintainer of the best-known OTR Digest (we all know who he is)..........

and Me

Lois Culver
KWLK Longview Washington (Mutual) 1941-1944)
KFI Los Angeles (NBC) 1944 - 1950
and widow of actor Howard Culver

(For more info, contact lois@[removed])

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:17:17 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Jekyll and Hyde

In response to Bruce Dettman, I have several radio adaptations of Dr. Jekyll
and Mr. Hyde.

My Favorite Story
Mystery Classics
Theatre Guild On the Air of 5-11-1950 with Fredrik March and Barbara Bel Geddes
Theatre Royale
Weird Circle
A six part serial with each program 15 minutes in length
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Make your day just a little better,
Listen to an Old Time Radio Program.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:17:39 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Johnnie Dollar

This is a new one on me, I did not know this. This is a direct quote from John
Dunning's "On the Air."

August 29, 1955: Log writers Terry Salomonson and Don Aston note a new
audition produced this date: never aired. CAST: Gerald Mohr as Johnny Dollar.

If Mike Giorgio heard it, I guess that it has now been aired. I hope that you
recorded it Mike.
--
Ron Sayles

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:17:52 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Shareing OTR with others

Hello Everyone, I have been asked to give a
presenation/talk on OTR.  I was wondering if anyone
out there could give me some ideas and suggestions
on how to put a program together.  I'd like to do an
audio/slide show kind of talk.  I would especially
need help putting together the slide show part!  Has
anyone done this in the past?  I would appreciate any
feed back any one would like to share!!   Many
Thanks!!

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:18:02 -0400
From: "Mark E. Higgins" <paul_frees_fan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jekyll and Hyde

    Regarding Bruce's inquiry on radio versions of Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
Hyde, I checked my collection and found 4.  Theatre Royale did a version
with with Laurence Olivier; NBC Presents: Short Story did it in 1951 -
1952;  there is an hour long version with Frederick March; and of
course, Jack Benny did his version on 12/7/42.  I'm sure that there are
probably more.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:18:40 -0400
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Francis X Bushman on Batman

    I just saw Francis X Bushman on an episode of "Batman". He played the
role of Mr. Van Jones-acollector of old silent films that the Riddler tried
to rob from. Although Mr. Bushman was a leading man in the silent film era
(films like Ben Hurr, and the original "The Ten Commandments) he was also
known as Nero Wolfe to radio mystery fans.

    Radio fans might want to stay tooned to thier batchannels because later
in the Batman epiodes there will be a guest superhero. None other than The
Green Hornet.
The episodes are intitled" A piece of the Action/Batman's Satifaction". But
if you can not wait till then, this Sundays episodes wiil have The Green
Hornet and Kato make a cameo apearance through a window when Batman and Robin
batclimbs up a building.(which was the case, because the series was so hot
that everyone wanted in on it. and this was how the writers got around to
show them all) These episodes are entitled "The Spell of Tut/Tut's Case is
Shut."
Allen

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:18:50 -0400
From: AandG4jc@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  TV to Radio 2

    Believe it or not but there was even a try at getting "I Love Lucy" on
radio after the video version was a hit. But there was only one episode
produced and there were none after that. The one episode was narrated by Desi
Arnez.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:19:03 -0400
From: Ga6string@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Gerald Mohr's Johnny Dollar audition

I'd like to add that Gerald Mohr's audition for YTJD included a complete
program in two 15-minute episodes. Very enjoyable.

BTW, Mohr makes a subsequent YTJD guest appearance in a 5-part story, "The
Lorco Diamonds Matter," I believe. Don't have the dates in front of me.

Take care,
Bryan Powell

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:20:06 -0400
From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  DR JEKYLL AND MR HYDE

In issue 181 Jerry wrote:

BBC Serial - Broadcast in 1932
Complete In 52 Episodes
Producer and star: George Edwards

Jerry, the date of 1932 is incorrect, not picking on you, I know you didn't
date it and it is a date that has been given to this serial for many years
and like the explanation given previously for George's Frankenstein serial,
it needs to be corrected.  I will ask the other members of the Australian
Group to date this serial accurately and as Jamie has indicated it is more
likely to be late 1930's.  Nor is it BBC as listed in several Log sites,
George Edwards (man with 1,000 voices) was Australian and did many different
adaptions of books as can be heard from other serials in circulation.

But the good news is that there are 52 episodes and it did star George
Edwards who would have played most of the speaking parts and it would have
been a George Edwards Production :)

In the early days of Australian Radio, it was 'required' for the announcers
to speak in a very British voice, so often, Australian OTR is branded as
BBC.  Fortunately we have 'grown out' of our 'cultural cringe' and
announcers now speak dinky di Aussie.  The ABC (National radio) still get
letters from little old ladies who were teachers for 40 years, correcting
their pronunciation :)  I don't think anybody expects Commercial Radio
announcers to know how to read so the ABC cops all the letters.

Ian Grieve

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:20:25 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1955 - Jack Benny signed off his first run network radio broadcast after
a run of 23 years. Mr. Benny was devoting his time fully to TV.  (Of
course the show continued a few more years in repeats).
  Joe

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Visit my home page:
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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:20:46 -0400
From: "Garry D. Lewis" <glewis@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  Cowboy help?

If nobody can help directly, you might want to go to this website-

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If is a movie/tv cowboy collection par excellent

		yours giddy-up- go going,

				Garry D. Lewis
--
Some say the glass is half full, I say it's merely a bad bartender.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:21:14 -0400
From: Michael Berger <makiju@[removed];
To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  famous firsts

Listening to one of those marvelous Information Please
programs last night, a question revolved around famous
"firsts" in radio.

No doubt the experts in this group will nail the correct
answers, but just for fun, here were the questions:

What was the first presidential convention to be broadcast?
And who was nominated? [That's a toughie]

What was the first heavyweight championship bout to be
broadcast? Location/participants/name of announcer

Who was the first President to deliver a radio address to
the nation, and when?

I will wait a day or so to see what answers come back, and
then will share with you what the InfoPls researchers said
were the correct answers.

Cheers
Michael Berger

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:23:21 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:The Altman-Belafonte Project

Derek Tague notes,

Mr. Altman said  he and Belafonte
wanted to dramatize the story of Gosden & Correll, & the A 'n' A
phenomenon of
the early 1930s. He said he wanted to emphasize how some of A 'n' A's biggest
fans were, at one time, African-American.

This project has gone thru a number of permutations since it was first
announced. During 1997, Belafonte stated that it was going to be done in
a sort of musical-drama-revue format, not unlike that of "Bring In Da
Noise, Bring In Da Funk," and that it would revolve around the story of
the A&A TV series. More recently, Belafonte gave an interview last summer
in which he insisted the project is still alive, and that he and Altman
are still trying to come up with a script. Given all these various
changes, it sounds to me like the project has gotten bogged down in
"Development Hell," and it'll be a long time, if ever, before we actually
see it.

I must admit, though, that I'm intrigued to see how they might handle it.
 There are definitely opportunities for interesting cinema in the Correll
and Gosden story -- a great opening shot might be to focus in on
ten-year-old Freeman perfectly comfortable as the only white face in a
black crowd, cheering on his friend Garrett Brown as he competes in an
amateur boxing match, and then you could follow Garrett and Freeman
learning to mimic different voices, Freeman being forced to quit school
to help support the family after the death of his father, the death of
Freeman's mother and sister in a car accident, teen-age Charlie Correll
plinking away at the piano in a Peoria nickelodeon and dreaming of a
stage career, the drudgery of teaching Masons and Elks how to soft-shoe
dance for Joe Bren, the two performers trying to calm a panicked crowd
when a violent storm hit in the midst of a Bren show in South Dakota, the
two-month struggle to put together the first episodes of "Sam and Henry,"
the angry break with WGN over syndication, the negotiations with Judith
Waller at WMAQ over A&A, the triumphant Pantages vaudeville tour of 1929,
the trip to New York to sign the NBC contract, the arguments with NBC and
Pepsodent over the program format, the standing ovations from the black
audiences at the Regal Theatre in Chicago, their bewildered reaction to
the excesses of The Craze, their frustrations and disappointment with
"Check and Double Check" -- and then the climactic scene of their being
cheered by a crowd of 35,000 at the Chicago Defender's summer picnic at
the same time the Pittsburgh Courier was campaigning to put them off the
air.  That would be an interesting point to end the picture --
emphasising the  ambiguity of the  black response to the program, and
suggesting that the seeds for A&A's ultimate fall from public esteem had
already been planted at the moment of their greatest triumph.

Belafonte himself would be a good choice to play Courier publisher Robert
Vann (even though he's about twenty years too old for the role) and a
good counterpoint to the Correll and Gosden story would be to trace
Vann's own rise, his bitter conflicts with other black leaders of the
day, his tendency to mount elaborate circulation-building crusades, and
his relationship with George S. Schuyler, the combative, Menckenesque
editorial writer who actually wrote most of the anti-A&A material
appearing in the Courier during the campaign.

Inserted thruout you would need to have illustrative scenes from actual
broadcasts, taken from the original scripts -- meaning whoever played C&G
would need to have remarkable multiple-voice acting and dialect skills to
make it work, and would also need to be able to play the scripts totally
straight, with no sense of irony. Frankly, I don't know of any actors
today who I think could take the original A&A scripts and really make
them convincing -- the trick is to have it sound *real,* and not like two
guys "doing voices."

This would seem to me to be the biggest challenge in the project: the
audience would really need to understand *why* the program was so popular
for the rest of the story to make sense, and they would need to
understand this *wasn't* the 1940s sitcom or the 1950s TV show. If Altman
and Belafonte can pull that off, they might have a picture worth seeing.

Elizabeth

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:37:12 -0400
From: Musiciantoo47@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Boris Karloff
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At the end of the INNER SANCTUM/MYSTERY PLAYHOUSE episode "Death Is A Joker"
with Peter Lorre, Mr. Lorre Introduces the next upcoming episode titled
"Creeps By Night." The "introduction" lasts 15 minutes or so & gets you quite
involved in the story. Does anyone know if this program exists in its
entirety? I would love to hear how it ends. Thanx!

Kenny.

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:25:38 -0400
From: "Matt Votisek" <mattvotisek@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hello Again and Lum and Abner

TO ALL:

Just wanted to write and say "hi" again, I have been reading this list for
about 5 years give or take.  In the past I have been an active part in this
and more recently I have been so busy with finishing college (finally!) and
trying to find a new job (not an easy time to do this!) so I have been
lagging as far as my [removed] I am happy to be back and am looking
forward to being an active part of this newsletter once again.

So here's my first question: I am looking for someone who has an accurate
list, or so called, of shows for Lum and Abner.  There seems to be a couple
of different versions of logs for this show, are any of them accurate?

Anyone know of a good source for mp3's of Lum and Abner?  I have some, but
am in the process of trying to find someone who is up for a trade?  COntact
me directly at: mattvotisek@[removed] if interested.

Thanks to all of you for keeping this list interesting.

Well it's a little late [removed] Goodnight Folks!

Matt Votisek
mattvotisek@[removed]

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