Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #229
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Date: 6/8/2003 9:35 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 229
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: K-Mart record player              [ danhughes@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
  Stereo?                               [ Darryl Hannon <trawfrog@[removed]; ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  the Thin Man                          [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
  The new Green Hornet movie            [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Computer viruses                      [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  June 9th birthdays                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Re: sound effects specialists & Fred  [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Lady Detectives on Radio, Pt. II      [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  New Record Player                     [ LSMFTnolonger@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:04:58 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: K-Mart record player

Herb, I was in a K-Mart tonight in Danville, Illinois (right on the
Indiana border) and saw the $[removed] record player you mentioned.  They had
a big stack of them, and they looked pretty good--a big box with the
33/45 record player on top, an AM/FM radio, a CD player, and a cassette
player.  My mom bought a unit very similar to this one last year for
double the price.  I'd check it out if I needed a phonograph [removed]
---Dan

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:37:13 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK Schedule for Week of
 6/8/03

Hi Everyone - Here's the program lineup for this week - with the new shows
strating on Sunday for a week   24/7 at:
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SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
Tallulah Bankhead is Featured -
1. THE BIG SHOW     NBC   4/22/51   Tallulah is hostess and welcomes guests:
Fred Allen, Joan Davis, Judy Holiday, Lisa Kirk,
Fran Warren, Herb Shriner, and others.
2. IT'S TIME TO SMILE     4/23/41   Starring Eddie Cantor and Dinah Shore.
Tallulah is the guest.

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
1. THIS IS YOUR FBI   ABC   1952 -  "The Unhappy Embezzler"
2. YOU BET YOUR LIFE   NBC simulcast - 1950 - with Groucho Marx.
3. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL with BILL STERN     NBC
Program #309   from 10/05/45.    Guest  movie star, Pat O'Brien.

Enjoy --  Tom & Jerry

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:39:33 -0400
From: Darryl Hannon <trawfrog@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Stereo?

From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
Subject:  "Old Time" Stereo System

Some months I remember a discussion here about whether "record players" are
still being sold.

Reading Herb Harrison's discussion about record players brought to mind an
experiment run by WOR in New York (during the '50's?, '60's?).

Back then, although FM broadcasting was common, it wasn't stereo. WOR, for
reasons I never fully understood, decided to provide (as a limited test) stereo
service by broadcasting one channel on WOR-AM and the other channel on WOR-FM.
One was left channel and the other was right. Listeners were instructed to
place two radios side by side to hear "stereo". What a lashup! As I remember,
it worked, but hardly seemed worth the effort.

Did any station other than WOR try such a thing?

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:39:40 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

   From Those Were The Days --

   1942 - The comic soap opera Clara, Lu 'n Em was revived on CBS (the
original show began in 1931 on NBC). Clara, Lu and Em were together
again for just a short while before vanishing into radio oblivion.

1947 - Lassie debuted on ABC. It was a 15-minute show about an
extraordinary collie. Animal imitator, Earl Keen provided the whines and
other dog noises. The announcer was Charles Lyon; Marvin Miller and
Betty Arnold played Lassie's owners. The sponsor was Red Heart dog food.

   Joe

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Visit my homepage: [removed]

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:11:02 -0400
From: Jer51473@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  the Thin Man
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 wou;d like to find access to these forties programs. I seldom see them
advertised. Are they available, and if so, where and in what quanties? Anyone?

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:08:33 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The new Green Hornet movie

While we're all on the subject of THE GREEN HORNET, there have been attempts
recently to revive the series through Hollywood.

In 1995 a feature-length movie was made in Japan and I was lucky enough to
acquire a copy in letterbox format with English subtitles.  Could have been
done better with a TITANIC-like budget, but it was more entertaining than
the campy 1960s TV series that eventually led to aliens from outspace (in
campy Irwin Allen-style costumes).

There is a film script that has been floating about in collector hands for
Universal's attempts to do a feature-length movie with Jet Li as Kato.  For
anyone who doesn't know who Jet Li is, watch LETHAL WEAPON 4 or THE ONE.
Youll get an idea.  To date, production has not began on the film and
chances are it's going to many more years till it comes out since everyone
who has a financial interest wants "a piece of the action."  By then a new
script will probably be written anyway.

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:16:41 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Computer viruses

Charlie Summers had a point.  With all the talk of the new BugBear virus
floating around on the web, many crooked people will take advantage of
spreading chaos on the web just for their jollies.  There is an easy way to
prevent yourself from downloading anything harmful and it's so simple.

1.  Don't open any e-mails whatsoever that you are not familiar with.  If
the sender isn't a friend of yours or the stranger didn't put anything in
the subject line such as "Old Time Radio," it's best to just delete it
altogether.  I get one or two e-mails a week which no one puts anything in
the subject line - I delete them.

2.  Don't open any e-mails with the subject line describing anything
regarding . . . "Protect yourself" or "new virus alert."  Many of those are
actually people willingly or unwillingly sending you a virus.  Just delete
it.  You are just as safe before and after you delete the message.  Many
virus hoaxs are spread because of these e-mails.

Although these are not 100% foolproof ways of preventing viruses, you are
eliminating a large percentage of the risk.
Or as the old saying goes, if you want to be free of diseases, don't sleep
with strange bed-fellows.
Martin

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:00:18 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  June 9th birthdays

The birthdays for June 9th are:

06-09-1900 - Fred Waring - Tyrone, PA - d. 7-29-1984
conductor: "Fred Waring and His Pennsylvanians"; "Pleasure Time/Victory Tunes"
06-09-1908 - Robert Cummings - Joplin, MO - d. 12-1-1990
actor: David Adair "Those We Love"
06-09-1910 - George Bryan - NYC - d. 6-27-1969
announcer: "Helen Hayes Theatre"; "Arthur Godfrey Talent Scouts"
06-09-1910 - Joseph Julian - St. Marys, PA - d. 3-11-1982
actor: Sandy Matson "Lorenzo Jones"; Archie Goodwin "Adventures of Nero Wolfe"
06-09-1915 - Les Paul - Waukesha, WI
guitarist: "Fred Waring Show"; "Drene Show"; "Rhubarb Red"
06-09-1926 - Mona Freeman - Baltimore, MD
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"

Those who died on June 9th:

06-08-1921 - Alexis Smith - Penticton, British Columbia, Canada - d. 6-9-1993
Actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-05-1918 - Allen Ludden - Mineral Point, WI - d. 6-9-1981
host: "Mind Your Manners"; "College Bowl"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hometown of [removed] Kaltenborn and Spencer Tracy

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:02:06 -0400
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  sound effects specialists & Fred Allen
 TV

knight555@[removed] (name??) had a question about whether sound
effects technicians moved over into television.  First of all, let me
answer a side question he had by saying that radio sound effects
technicians are NOT "Foley Artists."  That term has one specific meaning
and it has no relationship to radio.  In movies, Foleys act out sounds in
synchronization to previously filmed action.  In radio, sound effects
technicians worked in essence as actors in creating the sounds
independently, but under the guidance, of the director and the action being
acted live while the effects are being done.

That said, Stan Freberg had a routine where his sound effects man created a
scene which would be rather difficult to enact on television, and when
asked afterwards if the old radio people went into television or into rest
homes, he replied that they did go into TV but after about 26 weeks they
left and went into rest homes.  But seriously, there were plenty of things
for sound people to do in television, and I have videotapes of several
special radio-themed editions of "I've Got A Secret" where their resident
sound effects man (whose main job usually was to sound the buzzer) did a
demonstration of radio sound effects.  Just as there has been discussion in
this digest as to whether there were women in this field (there were--the
sounds on War of the Worlds were done by a woman) I should mention that
this gentleman who worked sound on "I've Got A Secret,", Orville White, was
African American.  On one of these programs he was joined by Jerry McCarty
who later became the sound effects technician on the "CBS Radio Mystery
Theatre."

This brings up another point.  Several months before the end of the RMT
there was a wonderful TV piece about the program on "CBS Sunday Morning."
Hi Brown discusses McCarty and mentions that until the late 50s the sound
effects people were all members of AFTRA, the actors union.  Then when
radio drama went into decline (his words) they were moved over into the
engineers union, probably NABET.   This shows how highly regarded sound
effects people were considered in the days of radio, that they were
considered on a par with the actors who used their voices.

Finally, to answer another question, Fred Allen did do TV, and much of this
work survives.  His early attempts at comedy variety programs were not too
successful, and would have been too much a strain on his heart.  But he
hosted a panel show "Judge For Yourself" for a season, and at the time of
his death was a regular panelist on "What's My Line."  Game Show Network
has shown 3 or 4 JFY's and recently concluded showing probably all of his
WML's.  On one of those, his wife Portland Hoffa was the mystery guest!  My
daughter has all of the GSN programs and has made a few of them available
in the past, and may eventually be able to get around to them again
sometime in the future.  In the meantime, some of them (including the
variety programs which we don't have) can be seen at the Museum of TV and
Radio in NY and LA.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:31:37 -0400
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lady Detectives on Radio, Pt. II

Thanks for a great response to my inquiry. Digesters emailing me
directly have located all but one of the series I requested assistance
in locating.

The only series not found yet is "Michael and Kitty", which some
collectors may have indexed as "Michael Piper, [removed]" since that was an
alternate title. It was a husband and wife team (played by John Gibson
and Elizabeth Reller) in an NBC series that aired 1941-42. Only one eps.
survives to present [removed]

I have thanked all those who responded by separate communication and
will follow up on their offers.

Muchos gracias!

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 23:19:05 -0400
From: LSMFTnolonger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  New Record Player

Herb Harrison wrote about a record player that was on sale at K-Mart.
Well, I know of another new record player that is carried by [removed]
Go to [removed] and in the search engine write "Teac SL-A100" and
you'll see a new self-contained record player that can also be connected
to a stereo system. It is available in red or black (other electronics
stores have a third color) and sells for $[removed]  Teac is a good
company, but what really makes this model special is that it features
the missing third speed. Most turntables for the last ten years have
only had the 33 1/3 and 45 [removed] speeds. The Teac SL-A100 has both of
those speeds plus the 78 [removed] speed--the K-Mart record player doesn't.

Greg Jackson, Jr.

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