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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2009 : Issue 142
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  7-29 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Arthur marketing time                 [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Re: Re: 64kps?!!                      [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
  7-30 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Lights Out episode                    [ "Diane Brown" <dianeb1963@bellsouth ]
  RE: Yoo-Hoo, Mrs. Goldberg            [ "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed] ]
  Semi-OT: Radio, and the Apollo Missi  [ jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns) ]
  Meredith Willson and Les Paul         [ KENPILETIC@[removed] ]
  Yoohoo, Mrs. Goldberg                 [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Love on the Line                      [ Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed] ]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:41:22 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  7-29 births/deaths

July 29th births

07-29-1869 - Booth Tarkington - Indianapolis, IN - d. 5-19-1946
writer: "Maude and Cousin Bill"
07-29-1876 - Maria Ouspenskaya - Tula, Russia - d. 12-3-1949
actor: "Towards the Century of the Common Man"; "Treasury Star Parade"
07-29-1877 - William Beebe - Brooklyn, NY - d. 6-4-1962
author: "Information Please"
07-29-1887 - Sigmund Romberg - Nagykanizsa, Austria-Hungary - d.
11-9-1951
composer, conductor: "An Evening with Romberg"; "Swift Hour"
07-29-1888 - Niles Welch - Hartford, CT - d. 11-21-1976
announcer: "The Campbell Playhouse"
07-29-1892 - Horace Braham - London, England - d. 9-7-1955
actor: Charles Lang "Wendy Warren and the News"; Ernest Benning "Big
Sister"
07-29-1892 - Lewis James - Dexter, MI - d. 2-19-1959
vocalist: "The Mobiloil Concert"; "The Revelers Quartet"
07-29-1892 - William Powell - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 3-5-1984
actor: Father "My Mother's Husband"
07-29-1894 - Kenneth Daigneau - d. 6-11-1948
actor: Captain Silver "Sea Hound"
07-29-1895 - Bill Corum - Speed, MO - d. 12-16-1958
boxing color man: "Gillettes's Cavalcade of Sports"
07-29-1896 - William Ford Manley - d. 7-10-1954
writer: "Snow Village Sketches"
07-29-1900 - Don Redman - Piedmont, WV - d. 11-30-1964
bandleader: "Don Redman and His Orchestra"; "Chipso Radio Program"
07-29-1900 - Owen Lattimore - Washington, DC - d. 5-31-1989
consultant: "Pacific Story"
07-29-1905 - Clara Bow - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-27-1965
actor: (The It Girl) "Kay Parker in Hollywood"
07-29-1906 - Thelma Todd - Lawrence, MA - d. 12-16-1935
comedienne: Series with Zasu Pitts
07-29-1909 - Bernard Mackey - d. 3-5-1980
singer, guitarist: (Member of the Ink Spots) "The Four Ink Spots";
"Let's Go Nightclubbing"
07-29-1910 - Joseph Curtin - Cambridge, MA - d. 4-5-1979
actor: Nick Charles "Advs. of the Thin Man"; John Perry "John's Other
Wife"
07-29-1910 - Sydney Roslow - d. 11-12-2002
psychologist: "What Makes You Tick?"
07-29-1911 - Florence Freeman - NYC - d. 4-25-2000
actor: Ellen Brown "Young Widder Brown"; Wendy Warren "Wendy Warren
and the News"
07-29-1913 - Geraldine Kay - d. 9-25-2001
actor: Barbara Palmer "Masquerade"; Kyle Ling "Lone Journey"
07-29-1913 - Stephen McNally - NYC - d. 6-4-1994
actor: "Ford Theatre"; "Screen Director's Playhouse"; "Lux Radio
Theatre"
07-29-1914 - Robert Haag - Illinois
actor: Sheriff Mark Chase "Death Valley Days"
07-29-1914 - "Professor" Irwin Corey - Brooklyn, NY
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Show"
07-29-1916 - Albert Lewin - NYC - d. 4-23-1996
writer: "Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy"; "Eddie Cantor Show"
07-29-1919 - Vic Lewis - London, England - d. 2-9-2009
band leader: "Jazz Alive"
07-29-1922 - Johnny Barricks - d. 12-3-2005
disk jockey: WKAY Glasgow, Kentucky
07-29-1924 - Lloyd Bochner - Toronto, Canada - d. 10-29-2005
actor: "The Chase"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
07-29-1924 - Robert Horton - Los Angeles, CA
actor: "Suspense"
07-29-1927 - Luther Sies - Westminster, MD
author: "The Encyclopedia of American Radio 1920-1960"
07-29-1938 - Peter Jennings - Toronto, Canada - d. 8-7-2005
news broadcaster: "When Conventions Were Conventions"
07-29-1949 - Tim James Archer - Lancaster, CA
singer of radio commercials
07-29-1950 - Bill Estes - Racine, WI - d. 4-13-2008
regional manager of Wisconsin Public Radio's WHAD-FM

July 29th deaths

02-01-1906 - Hildegarde - Adell, WI - d. 7-29-2005
singer, pianist: (The Dear that Made Milwaukee Famous) "Hildegard
Program"
02-12-1898 - Charles Brendler - d. 7-29-1965
music director: "The Navy Hour"
03-01-1910 - David Niven - Kirriemuir, Scotland - d. 7-29-1983
actor, panelist: "NBC Radio Theatre"; "Transatlantic Quiz"
03-14-1919 - Luther Henderson - Kansas City, MO - d. 7-29-2003
arranger: "Cue Magazine Salutes ASCAP"
03-31-1933 - Anita Carter - Maces Springs, VA - d. 7-29-1999
singer: (Carter Sisters) "Country Music Time"; "Grand Ole Opry"
05-12-1936 - Tom Snyder - Milwaukee, WI - d. 7-29-2007
talk show host: ABC Network
06-09-1900 - Fred Waring - Tyrone, PA - d. 7-29-1984
conductor: "Fred Waring and His Pennsylvanians"; "Pleasure Time/
Victory Tunes"
06-27-1927 - Peter Bayliss - Kingston-upon-Thames, England - d.
7-29-2002
actor: "A Trick to Catch the Old One"
07-21-1910 - Carl Ravazza - Alameda, CA - d. 7-29-1968
bandleader: "Carl Ravazza and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"
07-31-1916 - Bill Todman - NYC - d. 7-29-1979
producer, director, writer: "Treasury Salute"; "Winner Take All";
"What's My Line"
08-03-1918 - Les Elgart - New Haven, CT - d. 7-29-1995
bandleader: "Let's Go to Town"; "Manhattan Melodies"
08-06-1895 - Phil Boutelje - Phildelphia, PA - d. 7-29-1979
arranger: Paul Whiteman Orchestra
08-10-1921 - Marvin Zindler - Houston, TX - d. 7-29-2007
disk jockey, spot news announcer: KATL-AM, Houston, Texas
08-30-1896 - Raymond Massey - Toronto,  - d. 7-29-1983
actor, host: "Doctor Fights"; "Harvest of Stars"
08-31-1897 - Sidney Ellstrom - Chicago, IL - d. 7-29-1968
actor: "Captain Midnight"; "Flying Patrol"; "Lights Out"
10-13-1910 - Tex McCrary - Calvert, TX - d. 7-29-2003
interviewer: "Hi Jinx"; "Tex & Jinx"
12-02-1899 - John Barbirolli - London, England - d. 7-29-1970
conductor: "New York Philharmonic"
12-22-1889 - Anthony Caruso - Italy - d. 7-29-1973
composer, clarinetist: WCAU and WIP Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Ron

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:41:39 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Arthur marketing time

Dr. James Belpedio ponders:

Whatever the Lipton people thought of his antics behind the scenes is
probably unknown, but Arthur sold oceans of chicken soup. Does anyone
have any info on that aspect of Godfrey's career?

Ah yes.  It's all right there on pages 26-27 of The Great Radio Audience
Participation Shows
([removed]) and
800-253-2187, now at a significantly reduced $[removed]  Godfrey, "that man
himself," is featured on pages 19-32.

You'll also find honorable mentions on Godfrey's salesmanship in Sold on
Radio:  Advertisers in the Golden Age of Broadcasting
([removed]), at $[removed]

Cheers.

Jim Cox

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:41:59 -0400
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Re: 64kps?!!

On 7/29/2009 Rodney Bowcock wrote:
(Double all of this if you assume 64kps recordings).

Sure, but keep in mind that FM radio, with all of it's issues is about the
same as 96kbps, so why you'd settle for any less than that is beyond me.

96 kbps is the rate commonly expressed as to be used for FM-quality
equivalent joint stereo MP3 encodings. Joint stereo encodings are
somewhat more efficient in the use of bit space than two-channel
encodings. The rough equal in quality for a mono recording is a 64
kbps encoding which is probably in all cases as good as any OTR
analog recording even if it came from Radio Archives, especially if
variable bit rate is used in the MP3 encode.

Don

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:42:06 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  7-30 births/deaths

July 30th births

07-30-1880 - Robert R. McCormick - Chicago, IL - d. 4-1-1955
newspaper publisher, commentator: "The Chicago Theatre of the Air"
07-30-1890 - Casey Stengel - Kansas City, MO - d. 9-30-1975
hall of fame baseball manager: "DiMaggio Farewell"; "Witness!"; "Tops
in Sports"
07-30-1909 - Gordon Hughes - d. 4-19-1999
director: "Lights Out"; "The Guiding Light"
07-30-1911 - Richard Louis Ables - d. 8-1-1997
composer, musician: Woody Herman Orchestra; Charlie Barnet Orchestra
07-30-1912 - Charles Irving - Minneapolis, MN - d. 2-15-1981
actor: Tex Mason "Bobby Benson's Advs."; Jerry Malone "Young Dr. Malone"
07-30-1912 - Edward L. Bliss - Fizhou, China - d. 11-25-2002
cbs news correspondent: (One of Morrow's Boys) CBS News Twentieth
Century Roundup"
07-30-1914 - John Meston - Pueblo, CO - d. 3-24-1979
writer: "Gunsmoke"; "Escape"; "Fort Larmie"
07-30-1916 - Dick Wilson - Preston, Lancashire, England - d. 11-19-2007
actor: "Family Theatre" Mr. Whipple in Charmin commercials
07-30-1922 - Meredith Davies - Birkenhead, England - d. 3-9-2005
conductor: "City of Birmingham Choir"
07-30-1928 - Christine McGuire - Middletown, OH
singer: (The McGuire Sisters) "Arthur Godfrey Time"
07-30-1928 - Joe Nuxhall - Hamilton, OH - d. 11-15-2007
baseball annoucer for the Cincinnati Reds
07-30-1958 - Robert Leppzer - Cambridge, MA
producer: "Wounded Knee: Roots of Earth"

July 30th deaths

01-02-1931 - Renee Roy - Buffalo, NY - d. 7-30-2005
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
01-05-1923 - Sam Phillips - Florence, AL - d. 7-30-2003
owner sun records: "Lost and Found Sound"
01-26-1905 - Margaret Cousins - Munday, TX - d. 7-30-1996
writer: "Holmes Radio Magazine"
02-08-1908 - Myron McCormick - Albany, IN - d. 7-30-1962
actor: Christopher Wells "Advs. of Christopher Wells"
03-17-1916 - Karl Weber - Columbus Junction, IA - d. 7-30-1990
actor: Ray Matson "Dr. Six Gun"; Phil Stanley "When a Girl Marries"
04-04-1907 - Bob Venables - Woodstock, IL - d. 7-30-1985
announcer: "The Whistler"
05-10-1914 - Charles McGraw - NYC - d. 7-30-1980
actor: Ken Thurston "Man Called X", "Dragnet"; "Suspense"
06-07-1897 - George Szell - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 7-30-1970
orchestra leader: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"; "New York Philharmonic"
07-10-1914 - Joe Shuster - Toronto, Ontario, Canada - d. 7-30-1992
co-creator (with Jerry Siegel): "Advs. of Superman"
08-22-1897 - Eddie Dunstedter - Edwardsville, IL - d. 7-30-1974
organist, conductor: "Gold Medal Fast Freight"; "Lineup"; "It Happened
in Hollywood"
09-08-1896 - Howard Dietz - NYC - d. 7-30-1983
song lyricist: "The Gibson Family"
09-13-1903 - Claudette Colbert - Paris, France - d. 7-30-1996
actor: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players"; "Lux Radio Theatre";
"Millions for Defense"
09-29-1915 - Brenda Marshall - Island of Negros, Philippines - d.
7-30-1992
actor: Nancy Smith "Smiths of Hollywood"
10-10-1913 - Janis Carter - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-30-1994
scriptwriter: "Gangbusters"
11-23-1900 - Julian Atkins - Oklahoma - d. 7-30-1984
guitar: "The Radio Cowboys"
11-27-1917 - Buffalo Bob Smith - Buffalo, NY - d. 7-30-1998
actor: Howdy Doody "Howdy Doody"
12-06-1887 - Lynn Fontanne - Waterford, England - d. 7-30-1983
actor: "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Biography In Sound"

Ron

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:42:28 -0400
From: "Diane Brown" <dianeb1963@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Lights Out episode
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Hello All,

Does anyone know the airdate for the Lights Out episode "Night"? I am trying
to organize my collection and am missing this date.

Thank you,

Diane Brown

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:42:53 -0400
From: "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: Yoo-Hoo, Mrs. Goldberg

  Speaking of Elizabeth McLeod, has anyone heard from her lately? She was
a major, dare I say irreplaceable, contributor to this Digest.
    Tom van der Voort

Elizabeth just made a post today over on the 78 List about the relationship
(or lack thereof) between Columbia Phonograph Co. and the Columbia
Broadcasting System in the latter's early days.

The 78 List archives are available here:
[removed] .

You're right; Elizabeth is a very valuable asset to the OTR community.

Sammy Jones

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:00 -0400
From: jameshburns@[removed] (Jim Burns)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Semi-OT:  Radio, and the Apollo Missions

It's amazing to think that forty years ago, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin,
and Michael Collins were only in the first few days of a THREE WEEK
quarantine, at the Lunar Receiving Laboratory, in Houston. (That
spectacular New York City parade, and the other celebrations, didn't
occur until nearly a month after the Saturn V had [removed])

The heroes' only recreation was television, radio, reading, visits
through the window, and by phone, with [removed] And then, only what
could be squeezed in during a barrage of medical tests.

And, while it would be fascinating to know exactly what radio, TV or
music the astronauts relaxed to (the isolation periods ended, after a
couple of more Moon missions)...

All this is really only as a preamble, to what I meant to ask, a couple
of weeks ago!

;-)

TV coverage of Apollo 11 has been fairly well archived, and
occasionally, highlights replayed. (Although I'd still love to find out
what's happened to one of the nerwork's Robert [removed]
[removed])

I remember the TV broadcasts, throughout the days, commencing July l6th,
1969.

But what was the radio coverage, like?

Surely, there were those folks stuck in their cars somewhere, or in
other locations with no TV reception, when Armstrong first walked on the
[removed]

I can vaguely remember radio news reports in those days, keeping
everyone up to date on the Apollo's progress.

But the history of radio and the Apollo missions, it seems to me, may
have been generally ignored.

As we recall those great days--

What could have been the start of our immediate manned exploration of
the solar system--

Any memories here, of how radio participated in our first missions to
the moon?

Jim Burns

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:08 -0400
From: KENPILETIC@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Meredith Willson and Les Paul

Hi Gang -

Yesterday I heard on XM "Radio Classics" a Burns and Allen broadcast  which
I believe was from October 4, 1945.  The musical director was  Meredith
Willson.  During the course of the program the orchestra played  "Begin the
Beguine".  There was a guitar solo.  The guitarist sounded  a great deal like
Les Paul, but there was no credit given.  My Question:  Can anyone confirm
whether this was or was not Les Paul?  I don't believe  that Les was a regular
member of Mefedith's orchestra, but he might have been a  guest on that
broadcast.  Check out the broadcast if you can.  It's a  good program (Gracie
buys Nylon Parachutes instead of a Jeep), and the Orchestra  (with Les?)
plays a wonderful arrangement of the song.

Happy Taping     Ken Piletic   Streamwood,  Illinois and Alma, Arkansas
School

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:14 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Yoohoo, Mrs. Goldberg

I had a similar reaction to the documentary on Gertrude Berg that was posted
here yesterday.  There were major continuity glitches, odd choices for
inclusion that made it seem like the video and audio tracks had nothing to
do with each other (why include a very funny Marx Brothers sketch in a film
about The Goldbergs?) and a major glossing over of the history of the radio
show.

Clearly, it wasn't enough for the filmmakers that Mrs. Berg was a successful
entertainer beloved by millions.  She also had be a crusader for FDR,
against the blacklist, an empowering voice for women and Jews when they were
out of the mainstream, etc.

While I don't deny the importance of these issues, focusing on them without
examining her core work accurately diminishes the effort.

Many of the experts who appear on camera in the film come across as if they
had to make the case that Mrs. Berg was important enough to warrant a
movie - something that would be taken for granted if the subject were
Groucho Marx or Charlie Chaplin.  And referring to Gosden & Correll as "the
first" actors to play Amos 'N Andy is almost as comic as how hockey star
Dennis Hull used to introduce his (only) wife as his "first wife"  (a joke
about how often his more famous brother Bobby had been married).

The film implies some kind of moral superiority for Berg because she used
Yiddish actors to play Jewish parts, while Gosden & Correll used white
actors to play back characters, which is absurd in the context of that era
particularly when you take into account that many of the actors on Amos 'N
Andy were black.

In addition, the film implies that the only reason The Goldbergs lost
popularity was because of a blacklist vendetta against Berg for supporting
union leader Phil Loeb but the show had been on and off the air several
times before the red scare.  I don't have enough information to validate or
invalidate the film's argument but that's at least a point that should have
been addressed.

One final question that wasn't necessary to address but would have been nice
is why there were so few overtly Jewish shows and characters on TV in the
decades that followed.  It was groundbreaking to have a seder service on the
air in the 1930s - all of the other Jewish comedians on radio celebrated
Christmas on their shows.  Has there been a seder on TV or radio since?
What was the show's lasting influence?

While there were many parts of the film I enjoyed, it gained coherence as it
went into the second half, it did make me recall the old joke about the
dancing bear - what's significant is that this film got made and distributed
at all, not how well it came out.

What was most exciting was seeing one actor I knew, the late Larry Robinson,
talking about his role as Freddy, as well as several I didn't who are
presumably still alive.  Perhaps some new convention guests to hunt down?

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:21 -0400
From: Andrew Steinberg <otrdig2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Love on the Line

I recently acquired episodes of a show called Love on the Line. They are
supposed to be from 1947. The shows are in the form of a 3 minute telephone
call between Peggy and Paul. Does anyone have any more information about this
show? 3 minutes seems short for a radio show.

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