Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #121
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 4/20/2001 7:35 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 121
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Same Time Same Station comes to KCSN [Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed]]
 Horatio Hornblower (again)           ["J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed]]
 Earth Abides                         [bruce dettman <bdettman@[removed]]
 Program Request                      ["H. K. Hinkley" <hkhinkley@[removed]]
 New Book?                            ["Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed]; ]
 Abe Burrows                          [Alan Chapman <[removed]@verizon.]
 places and times for listening       ["J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed]]
 Radio Spirit's Customer Service & Ru [StepToons@[removed]                  ]
 AVPRO                                [steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed]]
 Re: "Sci Fi"                         [SanctumOTR@[removed]                 ]
 CBS Owned Shows                      [William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];]
 Radio Spirits                        ["Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];    ]
 RADIO SPIRITS                        ["Frosty R. Povick" <Frosty@prodigy.]
 Arthur Anderson; Ilka Chase; the Dig [Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed]]
 re: Radio Spirits ...                [ecrasez@[removed]                ]
 Radio Transcriptions                 [ecrasez@[removed]                ]
 Space Opera                          ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Re:dio Spirits?                      ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Subject:                             ["Gerry Vogler" <GVogler1@[removed]]
 Radio Spirits 2 ...                  ["[removed] pollard" <gpollard@[removed]]
 My experiences with RSI              ["Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];]

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:01:41 -0400
From: Larry Gassman <lgassman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Same Time Same Station comes to KCSN

	Hi,
Same time Same Station comes to KCSN
[removed] KCSN in Northridge has been playing the Old Time Radio shows for
nearly 27 years.
We were approached by KCSN and asked to host the Old time Radio Program.
Beginning on Sunday April 22nd Don't Touch That Dial with Bobb Lynes will
no longer be heard.
On that date from noon until 2:00 Pacific Time, we will return to the air
with Same Time Same Station.
Our original Same Time Same Station program was heard for twenty years at
KPCC in Pasadena until March 5, 2000 when the station switched to a news
and talk format.
Same Time Same Station is currently syndicated in the Chico Reeding area on
KCHO Chico and KFPR Reeding as well as on the Internet as a part of
[removed]
KCSn the new home of same time Same Station also makes their programming
available on the Internet at [removed]
We hope you will tune in for two hours of great Old Time radio entertainment!

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:48:56 -0400
From: "J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Horatio Hornblower (again)

After my previous posting, curiosity got the better of me and I re-played
the first two episodes of HH which I have and timed them. These were
originally broadcast in this country on CBS "The Mad King" (07/07/52) and
"The Natividad" (07/14/52). They run about 22 minutes each. Opening and
closing credits present -- each ends rather abruptly and there is no
third-person narrator. The narration is by Michael Redgrave as Hornblower as
he looks back on his career.

This narrative device is more apparent in the later episodes which I have
where the third-person narrator says these are the memories of Admiral
Hornblower.

At this point, the short answer to the question about whether the set of
episodes available from AVPRO are edited or not, is that some episodes
appear to be the edited versions while others are not. I know we are
purists, but just having anything after 50 years seems to be a boon. Except
for that abrupt ending the story appears to be intact.

The description in Dunning always amuses me: "Michael Redgrave as Horatio
Hornblower, in a swashbuckling series with broadsides to starboard,
drumrolls, slashing swords." You get much of that in the opening without
ever having to listen to the rest of an episode.

Randy Cox

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:48:53 -0400
From: bruce dettman <bdettman@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Earth Abides

Could someone tell me on what series this science-fiction novel was
dramatized?

Thanks.

Bruce Dettman

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:28:24 -0400
From: "H. K. Hinkley" <hkhinkley@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Program Request

I received a request by phone today for a copy of a program that I don't
have.  Perhaps if any of you have the 12/10/46 NBC broadcast of Lowell
Thomas you would contact directly Marcie Jacobs at <<marcella@[removed];>.
Many thanks in advance from me and her.

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:28:26 -0400
From: "Ken Lanza" <klanza1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  New Book?

Does anyone have any other information regarding this proposed book?
regards,
Ken Lanza



In early 2001, Fitzroy Dearborn, in cooperation with the Museum of Broadcast
Communications in Chicago, will publish a two-volume Encyclopedia of Radio.
Some 1,200 pages long, it will include over 600 topical entries ranging from
about 1,000 up to as many as 5,000 words. We invite you to become an
Encyclopedia contributor for one or more of these entries. And we hope you
will be willing to suggest additional authors (colleagues, advanced graduate
students) we might approach as well.

[removed]

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:28:28 -0400
From: Alan Chapman <[removed]@[removed];
To: Old-Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Abe Burrows

A wonderful story in today's New York Times about Abe Burrows --
includes info on his radio writing career.  Here's link:
[removed]

Alan Chapman

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:20:28 -0400
From: "J. Randolph Cox" <cox@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  places and times for listening

>From time to time there have been indications of where and when we used to
listen to OTR when it was NTR. Where do people commonly listen to their
tapes, CDs, MP3s, and all the rest these days? And how much time do you
spend at this activity? One show at a time? Several in a row? Same titles or
a mix? I know some listen while walking the dog and others at the computer.

Generally, I listen in the living room -- during lunch or dinner -- on a
Sony player that sits atop the old Philco radio I used in the house where I
was growing up -- and sort of "work my way" through my tapes of a particular
series. I also use 15 minute serial chapters while exercising.

Will anyone admit to falling asleep while listening? I have this recliner
that is deadly!

Randy Cox

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:20:30 -0400
From: StepToons@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Spirit's Customer Service & Rudy Valli

Hello,

I recently had an issue with two cassettes that were included in box sets
from radio Spirits and I had a good experience calling them on the phone. I
felt that the young lady who answered the call qualified my needs and quickly
offered to correct the problem.
I'm a true believer in "service is more important than price."
I buy all of my audio equipment from the dealers who give the best service
not the bets price, and I do this with my entertainment shopping as well.
I usually wouldn't post a letter like this one, but I felt, since each log
appears to have some chat about radio Spirits, I should throw in my two cents.
While I'm here, does anyone know where I can hear a recording of MARY SMALL
on the radio? She started out with RUDY VALLI and moved on to doing her own
shows soon after.
Thanks!
Step

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:08:56 -0400
From: steve mcguffin <earl22002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  AVPRO

Since there seems to be a significant amount of
non-flattering comments concerning a certain OTR sales
source, I was wondering what people's experiences had
been dealing with AVPRO.  I was just looking at their
site.
Steve

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:08:58 -0400
From: SanctumOTR@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: "Sci Fi"

In a message dated 18 Apr 2001 20:54:13 -0400, Stephen A Kallis, Jr. writes:

<<[Space opera} originated in science-fiction (as opposed to "sci-fi")
circles as a mild [removed];>

***Actually, while almost universally disdained in SF fandom, the term "sci
fi" was coined by Forrest J. Ackerman, a longtime science fiction
agent/historian and an attendee of the very first Worldcon in 1939.  It was
certainly popularized outside of SF fandom but it originated with a member of
First Fandom.

--ANTHONY TOLLIN (co-founder of MINICON (the Minnesota Science Fiction
Convention) and author of the recently released Radio Spirits program
booklets "The 60 Greatest Old Time  Radio Shows from Science Fiction Selected
by Ray Bradbury" (with James F. Widner and Ray Bradbury), "Smithsonian
Legendary Performers - The Best of Old-Time Radio Starring Orson Welles,"
"The Lone Ranger on Radio," "Old Time Radio's 60 All-Time Favorites," and
Old-Time Radio's "Master Detectives," "Famous Westerns," "Legends of Comedy"
and "Classic Favorites."

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:08:59 -0400
From: William L Murtough <k2mfi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  CBS Owned Shows

There was recently a question about "December Bride" with Spring
Byington. While I was at CBS Hollywood (1945 untill 1951) the company was
disturbed about the fact that agency and sponsor owned programs presented
a problem. If the agency decided an account should be cancelled, the
network lost a good program. Consequently they decided to develop a
number of shows which they owned. One was "Luigi" starring J. Carol
Naish. Another was "The Cugats" with Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball, all on
a sustaining basis.

Although the books show "December Bride as starting  as sustaining in
1952, I seem to remember it when I was still at KNX. In fact according to
my memory, I did the Saturday evening run-through with Spring Byington.

There was a problem with "The Cugats" title as the listeners tuned in
expecting Xavier Cugat and his orchestra,  so it became the "Lucy Show".
Then when television came about, Desi and Lucy formed Desilu, took over
an old movie studio. and filmed the show. They also used the CBS people.
The announcer was Roy Rowan, staff KNX announcer. The writers, including
Bob Carrol and his bride, Madeline Pugh (daughter of a Ford dealer in
Indiana) were on the KNX staff. CBS engineer, friend Cam McCullough was
the sound engineer, Wilbur (Bill) Hatch from KNX was the musical
conductor. When they show the Desi Arnaz orchestra they are all CBS
musicians. Also the actors are all radio actors. (the stunning Mary Jane
Croft, a noted radio actress, is a regular. Also Gale Gordon). The "I
Love Lucy" TV show is really a slice of old time radio.

In later years the same problem of losing shows came up in television. If
the sponsor cancelled, the whole show went down the drain. When Jim
Aubrey became the president of CBS-TV  he initiated the idea of multiple
sponsorship, overcoming this problem. (Jim was known as the "Smiling
Cobra"). Jim had been a salesman at KNX. However I didn't get to know him
untill he came to New York. He was a hard worker and I enjoyed knowing
him. However, his lust for good looking women got him ousted. One Sunday
a crew cleared out his office. Too bad as he was a great broadcaster!
Also very personable.

Bill Murtough

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:09:03 -0400
From: "Doug Leary" <dleary@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Radio Spirits

Thanks to George P. for his thoughtful comments about Radio Spirits. The
company does appear to value the copyrights more than the material itself,
which is sad. I have never ordered anything from RS, specifically because of
the abundance of negative comments in various places on the Internet. So in
spite of the company's advertising, when people take the time to share their
experiences it does save others some trouble.

Doug Leary

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:09:02 -0400
From: "Frosty R. Povick" <Frosty@[removed];
To: OTR Rountable <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RADIO SPIRITS

I have ordered from radio spirits about 6 times now, and I
have never had a problem with anything I ordered.

frosty

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:14:14 -0400
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Arthur Anderson; Ilka Chase; the Digest

In Norman Lloyd's autobiography, STAGES (Directors Guild of America, 1993),
he writes about  a trick Arthur Anderson played on the Mercury Theater cast
for Shakespeare"s "Julius Caesar."  Evidently, the company worked at a
theater called The Comedy, renamed Mercury by John Houseman and Orson
Welles. It was on 40th Street, between Sixth Avenue and Broadway.  A
fifteen year-old boy named Arthur Anderson, who was playing Lucius, ..."put
a match to the Mercury's sprinkler system, and flooded the stage during the
matinee." ([removed]).   The year was 1937.

Is this not the same Arthur Anderson, who attended a few Friends of
Old-Time radio conventions and wrote a book about his experiences on "Let's
Pretend?"

On another matter, though I haven't read Ilka Chase's autobiography, PAST
IMPERFECT, I think she was a great talker, and she probably conceded that
where was where she made her mark in radio. I seem to remember a show she
did with others,  on Mutual,  in which her comments often  caused  a few
raised eyebrows.  I thought of her radio career when I watched Robert
Aldrich's film, "The Big Knife," (1955). She has great part in that film,
which presents the dark side of Hollywood. Were she still alive and in
demand, I would guess she'd have a platform  on Barbara Walter's "The
View."

Finally, and this is solely my own opinion, the Digest has recently  not
focused on specific radio programs, their casts and crews, as it used to in
days gone by.  Certainly this subject appears, but the conversation seems
drifting over to the technical end of things more and more.  I believe this
 information to be important and some of it is fine.  But I miss the flavor
which discussion of the old shows brings. Just a random thought.

Dennis Crow


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Comments on the types of messages that appear in the OTR
Digest should be sent to the maintainer _directly_ and not sent to the list;
since comments about the list content itself, and by extention the list
management, have nothing whatsoever to do with Old-Time Radio, they are
off-topic by definition.

And before we completely lose sight of things, there has _always_ been a
technical aspect to postings here - I can point to any number of discussions
about what cassette decks to use, why reels are or are not an appropriate
archival medium, how to clean the white gunk off of an ET, whether
"high-speed" (double-speed, actually) cassette decks should be used for
copying OTR tapes, how to bake reel tapes, etc., etc. Today, the comments
tend to be more geared to digital than analog formats, but there isn't much
more tech talk now than there has _always_ been. Although I _do_ try to
maintain a balance leaning toward the programming itself instead of how to
listen to the programming, there is absolutely no reason to close off all
technical discussions, so long as they are relevant to the hobby.

(*sigh*) Some people want me to throttle the technical discussions, but
others want me to throttle the discussions about the programming, and include
MORE technical talk in the Digest. Since these are two _completely_ opposite
viewpoints, there's no way I'm going to be able to satisfy either one of
them, and so can only use my own judgement, and the good judgement of most of
the posters to the Digest, as my guide. Heck, a very few people have made it
clear to me that I should _never_ censor _any_ post to the [removed]
_they_ don't agree with it, of course, in which case I should not permit the
posting. I'll never be able to win that one, so I don't even try.

Some discussions, like the "Radio Spirits Customer Service" one, probably
_should_ be closed down, but only because they have been talked out, and not
because they aren't at least initially relevant to the hobby we all share and
love.

Again, comments on this issue should be sent _directly_ to me; they will not
be considered on-topic for the Digest.  --cfs3]

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:38:00 -0400
From: ecrasez@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Radio Spirits ...

Unlike others, I can't say that I've had any bad experience with Radio
Spirits. But I do miss Adventures-In-Cassettes because they packaged
their shows chronologically (the 72 consecutive hours of Jack Benny is
great!), while with RS they seem to be sorted by whim. Is there a reason
for this?

Like George Pollard, I also enjoyed calling AIC because they had
excellent customer service and were fun to talk to. Once I had a damaged
cassette in the Mayor of Town box set and instead of replacing the tape,
they sent another whole set. Alas .....

Bob S.

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:38:03 -0400
From: ecrasez@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Transcriptions

If anyone is interested, there are quite a number of 16" radio
transcriptions up for auction at Nauck's ([removed]). I also saw
some Sam 'n' Henry 78s somewhere in the catalog.

Bob S.

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:29:58 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Space Opera

A. Joseph Ross, responding to Gordon Payton's query about "space operas,"
observes,

I don't know exactly who coined the term, but it seems to be an
extension of "soap opera" and "horse opera."  In science fiction circles,
it is supposed to refer to a space adventure that could easily work as a
story with the science fictional elements removed.

The "pure," Galaxy-Magazine-defined version is as A. Joesph says;
however, the term has been applied to a somewhat wider range of space
epics, including many with ray-gun battles, such as the aforementioned
Star wars movie.  The hack-level writers could easily change Westerns
into Space Operas, but some space epics that _do_ need a scientific
element may still have a lot of Space Opera type elements in them; hence,
the expansion of the term.

Such dramas don't work that well in an all-sound medium like OTR.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:29:41 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:dio Spirits?

Dr. George Pollard notes,

I gave up buying from Radio Spirits several years ago. <snip> RS took
[an erroneous order] back for credit, but I had to pay the return
shipping.  <snip> One time, I got a nasty letter with a corrected order
that said the problem was mine because I couldn't fill out their form
right. So, I started ordering by letter, with a one-item-per-line list of
numbers and titles. No confusion here, just for or five lines of item
numbers and titles. A couple of orders later, I got a nasty letter from
the same person indicating the errors were because I wasn't using their
order form.

I'm no great fan of Radio Spirits.  However, I've found most of these
problems can be alleviated by doing initial contact by telephone.  I've
had rotten luck trying to use e-mail; IMHO, don't take that route.
Sometimes, Radio Spirits has something that's difficult-to-impossible to
get elsewhere, and if RSI has it, I won't boycott them.

On the other hand, some of their marketing seems a little silly.  Their
"decoder" for nominally lower prices (which they "decode" anyway) I got
for my cryptological collection, but the cipher alphabet was so
simplistic that when I first saw it, I was able to recover it in well
under an hour.  It must have taken them all of five minutes to set it up
(and the $[removed] price tag would take a humungous number of tapes to
"recover" the price of the "decoder").

RSI is a resource, and if you learn how to use it well, a legitimate one.
 But it may be a last resort rather than a primary one.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:13:02 -0400
From: "Gerry Vogler" <GVogler1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Subject:

in my forty years, I have developed what I think is a fairly clear idea of
what constitutes "space opera"  (question of April 17).  When stories set in
space have the goal of pure science fiction ([removed] - 2001), I would classify
it as science fiction, while a story set in space that ignores the
principles of science virtually completely ([removed] - Star Wars) is space
opera.  Additionally, space opera will focus on the hero/villain
relationship over robust scientific accuracy.

Neither is better necessarily in my opinion, but please don't EVER call Star
Wars science fiction !

Gerry Vogler

Gvogler1@[removed] <mailto:Gvogler1@[removed];

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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:14:41 -0400
From: "[removed] pollard" <gpollard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Spirits 2 ...

In OTR Digest 120, I joined the chorus of those recounting difficulties
with Radio Spirits (RS). Carl Amari responded to my comments in a
private e-mail received today. (If you'd like to read his response, send
me an e-mail and I'll forward his to you.) Also responding were several
OTR readers who, to a one, were supportive. A few were kind enough to
offer alternative OTR sources, which I'll check out and report back.
Thanks.

	I stand by my original submission to OTR Digest. The e-mail from Carl
Amari only strengthened my convictions regarding RS. It also raised a
few points.

	Why not respond publically, in OTR Digest? It's standard pratice to do
so in the medium where the original comments were published. Has he been
banned from OTR? I hope not. He should be allowed to attempt to defend
himself? It would make for a spirited exchange!!! What's "The Rock's"
slogan these days, "Bring It On."

	You'd think, moreover, that someone who was concerned about a legion of
serious complaints re: his business and its practices would start by
apologizing or asking for a second chance. Nope. Just told me he doesn't
hire teenagers, and really cares about OTR.

	I found it interesting he wouldn't troll for even a nibble, which he
wouldn't get, anyway. In a fifteen year life as a broadcaster and radio
consultant, every station with which I was associated began each
response to a complaint with some sort of apology and an offer to "make
good," usually in the form of a station tour or call from "your
favourite personality." Every listener counted.

	Wait a moment. Now that I think about it, every listener counted more
for the number one station than the number ten station, in the market.
"Games afoot, Watson!"

	I don't know if Carl Amari cares about OTR or how much, but he has
convinced me he doesn't understand the OTR market. There is a
commonsense difference between the novelty seeker and the aficionado or
collector. The former are profitable based on a high churn rate, whereas
the latter are profitable on a long-term service base.

	Aficionado's and collectors are knowledgable, experienced and
passionate consumers, who know what they're after and if it's been
delivered or not. Incidental gaffs are a part of life. When the
incidental becomes the norm, it assumes an aura of intentionality
shrouded in carelessness or, worse, disregard. So, the aficionado and
collector go elsewhere, and let others know about their experiences:
it's part of their ethos. This is one of the purposes of OTR Digest.
Thanks!!!

	Using bargin basement business practices to court the Bon Wit Teller
trade is not going to work. It works for the novelty seekers, not the
carriage trade. And OTR Digest readers are the carriage trade. Churn or
learn.

	As much fun as it is, I promise no more lengthy contributions re: RS.
I'm not really sure OTR Digest readers should give RS too much
attention. Tiny silk purses may be made from large sow's ears.

						george

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From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: My experiences with RSI
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:37:24 -0700

Hello.  I have only had a few bad experiences with RSI and found that they
are usually fine to deal with.  I have always received orders promptly and
there have been no serious screw-ups or bad tapes.  However, I have had
some bad experiences as follows.

Shortly after last Christmas, I ordered a bunch of album collections on
special.  I got them promptly and appeared to be in excellent sound.
However, with several of them (Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar Volume II,
Escape volume II and some of The Green Hornet volume I come to mind) the
first side of the tapes sounded fine.  This would usually be about the
first show and half of the second.  However, the other side sounded
completely different.  For example, on tape 1 of the Escape volume II set,
the first side sounded rather harsh, as if someone raised the higher
frequencies too much and did not fix the bass.  However, the second side
had the reverse problem, the bass was fixed but the high frequencies were
muffled.  This also happened on YTJD volume II, and was actually much
worse.  The first side would be very low volume and would seem to fade,
while the second side would be quite loud and sound excellent.  I do not
think it was the original material because it happened on so many shows
(all six tapes of YTJD volume II for example) and with Escape, the
beginning of the second side had a few seconds of the end of the first
side so no show content would be missing.  I have not encountered this
with most of what I buy from them, however, but this seems to be prevalent
with my last order.  Of course it is long after 30 days so I am not even
going to bother calling them.

Also, for those who are interested, be aware that KNX gets their shows
exclusively from RSI, or at least they did the last time I listened.  It
is not that I have anything against the way RSI packages their shows (or
the product in other words), it is just that either their shows are
normalized so the music is as loud as the dialogue or they do almost no
noise reduction at all which result in unnecessary clicks and pops.
(insert plug for The First Generation Radio Archives here, where I almost
never encounter this)

Would I buy from them again?  Well, as much as I do not want to, once you
get a "collection," you are stuck buying a bunch to fill the gaps they
created.  For example, while most dealers sell shows in sequence, many of
their "collections" are in a seemingly random order, and you might get
every other show of a season, but if you buy the next volume you can fill
the gaps of those missing shows.  Also, they price out almost every dealer
around, so it would almost seem foolish to buy elsewhere.  (I especially
refer to the big discount chains where you can get their 60 program sets
for $30 or so.)

Finally, if this was not enough, I recently signed up for the [removed]
newsletter.  (I used a very private hotmail address, and it was just to
see what they were up to.)  Anyway, I got an ad about big discounts on
audio books.  Upon going to their listed url, I found most of them to be
abridged and many to be of an adult nature.  They were not X rated as such
but were definitely adult topics, which conflicts with my own standards.
Therefore any thoughts I might have had about buying from them again have
been mostly eliminated.  I will get off my soap box now.  These are only
my opinions, and others may be happy with them.



[ADMINISTRIVIA: Ok, folks, this thread has run its course. Let's let it drop
now and get back to talking about Old-Time Radio, shall we?  --cfs3]
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