Subject: [removed] Digest V2003 #73
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 2/16/2003 11:15 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2003 : Issue 73
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE for  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
  Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou             [ EdHowell@[removed] ]
  Tom Corbett, Space Cadet              [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
  Re: The good old days?                [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  Re: "Encyclopedia of Radio"           [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: Chicken Heart                     [ Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed]; ]
  Re: missing Johnny Dollars and time   [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
  Woman Announcers                      [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  Patty Andrews                         [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  WOMEN ANNOUNCERS                      [ Frosty Povick <frosty@[removed]; ]
  women broadcasters                    [ Donna Halper <dlh@[removed]; ]
  Dec. 8th 1941                         [ George Aust <austhaus1@[removed] ]
  "Chicken Heart"                       [ Smzmurphy@[removed] ]
  otr get togetherings                  [ vigor16@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:00:42 -0500
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK SCHEDULE for week
 starts: 02/16/03

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
Audition Shows are featured this week:
1. OUR MISS BROOKS   1947 with Shirley Booth
2. MY WILDEST DREAM  11/20/52 Host: George Putnam,  and
Panelists:  Ann Rutherford, Helen Westcut, Roger Price and
Hans Conried.
3. SECOND GENERATION   11/11/54  Host: Jack McCoy,  with
Panelists: Barbara Hale, Dick Hyland and Hans Conried.
4. OUR MISS BROOKS   6/23/48  Audition show with Eve Arden
as Connie Brooks and Will Wright as Osgood Conklin.

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE  with Tom Heathwood
1. THE CAMPBELL PLAYHOUSE    CBS  3/17/40 - Mark Twain's
classic,  Huckleberry Finn"    stars: Orson Welles and Jackie Cooper.
2. THE COLGATE SPORTS NEWSREEL  with BILL STERN
NBC -   2/7/47  with bandleader,  Spike Jones.

Enjoy -  Tom & Jerry.

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:10:52 -0500
From: EdHowell@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou

Does anyone have any recordings of Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou they would
duplicate for me?

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:15:30 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Tom Corbett, Space Cadet

David Rogers wrote:

I have been trying to sort out my sci fi stuff and I have been having a bit
of trouble with my Tom Corbett, Space Cadet programmes. I keep finding
different catalogues with different show listings so I am finding it hard to
put everything in its correct order.
I was reading that it was a TV and a radio show. Therefore, I am wondering
if a lot of the mp3 files that I have are actually taken from TV shows
rather than the radio.
Any help?

Based on the Robert A. heinlein novel SPACE CADET, the radio series became a
popular juvenile program on both radio and television (I just finally got
the entire TV series on video (at least a ton of videos that supposedly has
the entire series) and it's not bad, really).  TOM CORBETT, SPACE CADET
actually began on television first, CBS television, and later moved to ABC
under the sponsor of Kellogg's Pep Cereal.  Once the program originated over
ABC, someone came up with the idea of having the scripts written so cleverly
that the audio tracks to the television episodes could be recorded and
re-edited to pose as radio broadcasts.  Much like television actors acting
out the part of a radio script on the bube tube.  That's why the radio
episodes sound much like TV broadcasts.

Broadcast twice a week, Tuesday and Thursday, live from NY, 5:30 to 6 [removed]
Drex Hines was the director.  Jackson Beck was the announcer.  Scripts were
written by Richard Jessup, Jack Weinstock, Willie Gilbert, Gilbert Brann,
Don Hughes, Elwood Holffman, Hal Rine, Peter Freedman, and Palmer Thompson.
Cast included Tom Corbett played by Frankie Thomas, Jr., Dr. Joan Dale
played by Margaret Garland, Astro was played by Al Markim, Roger Manning was
played by Jan Merlin, Captain Strong was played by Edward Bryce and
Commander Arkwright was played by Carter Blake.  Radio series lated 52
episodes (26 weeks).  All of the stories were two-part adventures.

1.  The Living Crystals of Titan  1/1/52  with Peter Capel
2.  The Living Crystals of Titan  1/3/52  with Peter Capel
3.  Rocket Into Danger  1/8/52
4.  Rocket Into Danger  1/10/52
5.  Space Station of Danger  1/15/52
6.  Space Station of Danger  1/17/52
7.  Shanghaied on a Deep Spacer  1/22/52
8.  Shanghaied on a Deep Spacer  1/24/52
9.  Operation Hide and Seek  1/29/52  with Berry Kroeger
10.  Operation Hide and Seek  1/31/52  with Berry Kroeger
11.  Doomed Cargo  2/5/52
12.  Doomed Cargo  2/7/52
13.  Interplanetary Space Tournament  2/12/52
14.  Interplanetary Space Tournament  2/14/52
15.  Ice Caves of Pluto  2/19/52
16.  Ice Caves of Pluto  2/21/52
17.  Trial in Space  2/26/52
18.  Trial in Space  2/28/52
19.  Asteroid of Danger  3/4/52
20.  Asteroid of Danger  3/6/52
21.  Giants of Mercury  3/11/52  with Connie Lempke and James Monks
22.  Giants of Mercury  3/13/52  with Connie Lempke and James Monks
23.  Atmosphere of Death  3/18/52  with Peter Capel, Elspeth Eric, and
Maurice Tarplin
24.  Atmosphere of Death  3/20/52  with Peter Capel, Elspeth Eric, and
Maurice Tarplin
25.  Mission of Mercy  3/25/52  with Luis Van Rooten
26.  Mission of Mercy  3/27/52  with Luis Van Rooten
27.  Double Cross in Space  4/1/52  with Paul Ford, Gilbert Mack and Ian
Martin
28.  Double Cross in Space  4/3/52  with Paul Ford, Gilbert Mack and Ian
Martin
29.  Mystery of the Sparkling Meteor  4/8/52  with Sarah Bushel
30.  Mystery of the Sparkling Meteor  4/10/52  with Sarah Bushel
31.  Holiday of Terror  4/15/52
32.  Holiday of Terror  4/17/52
33.  Riddle of Astro  4/22/52
34.  Riddle of Astro  4/24/52
35.  Escort of Death  4/29/52
36.  Escort of Death  5/1/52
37.  Danger in Deep Space  5/6/52  with Luis Van Rooten
38.  Danger in Deep Space  5/8/52  with Luis Van Rooten
39.  Marooned with Death  5/15/52  with Susan Douglas and Ian Martin
40.  Marooned with Death  5/17/52  with Susan Douglas and Ian Martin
41.  Greatest Show in the Universe  5/22/52  with Leon Janney and Connie
Lempke
42.  Greatest Show in the Universe  5/24/52  with Leon Janney and Connie
Lempke
43.  Revolt on Prison Rock  5/27/52  with Joseph Ballow, William Keen, and
James Monks
44.  Revolt on Prison Rock  5/29/52  with Joseph Ballow, William Keen, and
James Monks
45.  Vultures of Death  6/3/52  with Maurice Tarplin
46.  Vultures of Death  6/5/52  with Maurice Tarplin
47.  Satellite of Death  6/10/52  with Ian Martin and Dick Keith
48.  Satellite of Death  6/12/52  with Ian Martin and Dick Keith
49.  Pursuit of Danger  6/17/52  with Ivor Francis and Ian Martin
50.  Pursuit of Danger  6/19/52  with Ivor Francis and Ian Martin
51.  A Round Trip to Disaster  6/24/52
52.  A Round Trip to Disaster  6/26/52

The only 41 episodes of the 52 are known to exist.
Episodes 1, 8, 13, 14, 15, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, and 52 are not known to
exist.  Because the titles of the episodes are not given in the beginning of
each episode, there has been confusion over the years with collectors giving
their own titles to the recordings, which is why can get the same recording
from three different sources and

Jan Merlin and Frankie Thomas, Jr., the two leading stars of the radio and
television series will be on hand to autograph and even perform at the
Williamsburg Film Festival in Williamsburg, Virginia on March 6 to 8, 2003.
There will be a couple OTR dealers setting up at the convention and a few
OTR fans show up every year so if you are within driving distance, stop on
by and get your picture taken with the stars.  There is also going to be a
radio recreation on stage with the sci-fi fan club so you can watch a
performance right before your eyes.
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(SLIGHT PITCH: Johnny Western who acted in an episode of TV's HAVE GUN -
WILL TRAVEL and composed and sung the "The Ballad of Paladin" the show's
closing theme song, will also be attending the Williamsburg Film Festival
but only for a couple days, not the entire festival.  My HAVE GUN WILL
TRAVEL book will be at the convention so if you are planning on stopping by,
get your copy autographed by Johnny Western.  if you can't make it to the
festival, let me know and I'll be more than glad to arrange for an
autographed copy.)
Martin Grams, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:17:21 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: The good old days?

Sanctum, in his posting about the dual sponsorship of "The Shadow" program,
mentioned that

***Blue Coal dropped their longtime East Coast sponsorship after the 1949-50
SHADOW season, following the collapse of the Anthracite market.

Ordinarily, I would have just kept reading (with interest) the rest of the
posting, but his mentioning the "Collapse of the Anthracite market" brought
back a floor of very early childhood memories. It only relates to OTR in
that it was part of our normal lifestyle during the early years of radio.
I'm referring to coal home heating systems. How many folks remember that
ritual?

When I was about 4,(1935) my folks moved into a new two story house that had
a new coal furnace and huge water boiler attached. I had totally forgotten
about those years until Santums posting. Then vivid memories came flooding
[removed] the small coal chute window, and watching that black (not blue
:) messy stuff sliding down the chute into the coal bin in the basement.
Fortunately, I was too young to shovel the stuff into the furnace, and I was
warned repeatedly by my Father not to touch, or go anywhere near the
furnace.

Then, along came World War 2, and either coal was rationed, or in short
supply due to war industry needs, (or we couldn't afford to buy it)...so for
a period of time, we were not able to use the big furnace. My father put a
pot belly stove on the hearth in front of the living room fireplace, and we
used that for heat. I distinctly remember getting out of bed on the second
floor, chilled to the bone, grabbing some clothes, and racing downstairs to
get dressed around that pot belly stove.

[removed] along with refrigerators replacing ice [removed] came Oil Burning
furnaces, and the wheels of progress spun ever onward. Come to think of
[removed] looked forward to the Oil Truck deliveries as well. But that's
because one of my favorite Uncles was the truck driver, and Uncle Myrt let
me help him hook up, and turn the valves.

Sorry for the slightly off topic stream of consciousness, but you youngsters
missed out on all sorts of "adventures" during those "Golden" soot smudged
years.

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead              [removed]

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:04:13 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: "Encyclopedia of Radio"

On 2/16/03 9:18 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

Has anyone in this group contributed to the 3-vol "Encyclopedia of Radio"
which is to published in Dec 2003 (at the price of $350!)   I just learned
of this upcoming encyclopedia.

I wrote three articles for this volume -- a piece documenting the
short-lived Amalgamated Broadcasting System, a discussion of the
controversial involvement of the Jehovah's Witnesses religious group in
1920s and 1930s broadcasting, and  -- surprise! -- the article on "Amos
'n' Andy." All of these are based on my own original research, not on
secondary sources. I believe a few others on the list are also involved
with the project -- I'd be interested in knowing who else wrote what!

I wrote and submitted these pieces nearly two years ago, but publication
of the encyclopedia has been delayed by various unforseen business-type
circumstances. I've got fingers crossed that the 12/03 publication date
will be the final one. Things *are* moving forward - I recently sent back
my corrections to the edited versions of my articles, and all indications
are that This Will Be The Year the books see print.

As you can guess from the price, this isn't a set that's targeted to the
individual purchaser -- it's being marketed primarily to academic and
public libraries. It doesn't focus exclusively on the OTR era -- it's the
whole history of broadcasting down to the present day, and hopes to be
the definitive reference work on the subject.

Elizabeth

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:04:34 -0500
From: Bryan Wright <bswrig@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Chicken Heart

Harry Machin Jr. wrote about the Lights Out episode "Chicken Heart" saying:
I got it from Radio Yesteryear sometime in the early '70s and it was on
reel-to-reel tape.   I think it was a "Lights Out" show.  I don't have
time right now todig through hundreds of RtoR tapes in my basement, but
perhaps someone can tell me ifI'm right about the show not being lost.

What you've probably got is a short 5-8 minute condensed version of the show
that was produced for records in the late 1960s or early 1970s. A recording
of the original half-hour broadcast is not currently known to exist. For
anyone who wants to hear the full half-hour version, I'd highly recommend
getting a copy of the re-creation that list member Steve Lewis and the
Gotham Radio Players staged at this past year's FOTR Convention. They used
the original Lights Out script, and the acting and sound effects are superb!
Fred Berney sells copies of the video or DVD at his website
([removed]). I enjoyed the re-creation so much at the convention, I
ordered the DVD when I got home and have watched it again several times
since. I have no connection with Mr. Berney, jut another very satisfied
customer!

Bryan Wright

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:04:58 -0500
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: missing Johnny Dollars and time machine

Ryan [removed]

If I had a time machine, I'd go back and record Yours Truly, Johnny
Dollar,
"The Salt City Matter," "The Sea Legs Matter," "The Lonely Hearts
Matter,"
and "The Imperfect Alibi Matter."

And I [removed]
Does this mean that there is a complete version of The Kranesburg Matter?
 My copy only has 6 of the 7 parts.

If I could go back, my main priority would be getting those precious Vic
& Sade episodes.  Paul Rhymer was a comic genius, and his program was
without a doubt, in my opinion, the funniest OTR show ever.  The world
would be a better place if we had three or four hundred more episodes.

Rodney Bowcock
Rare Dean and Jerry movies! Now available from Past Tense Productions!

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:05:10 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Woman Announcers

To this growing list, as compiled by our contributors, let me add the
name of Alice Yourman.

She was the announcer on "Two On A Clue", a delightful detective show of
15 minutes, buried in the afternoon schedule of the soaps. The  series
featured the crime-solving exploits of a married couple, Jeff and Debbie
Spencer, and it aired from Oct 44 to Jan 46 on CBS.  Only two audio
programs have survived.

Yourman did all of the announcing and shared the commercials with an
uncredited male, extolling the virtues of LaFrance bleach, Statina
starch, and Postum.  Yourman, of course, was more well known as a very
competent radio actress on many soap operas, variety shows and
comedies.  Among her leading roles, she played Archie Andrews' mother.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
[removed]

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:05:19 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Patty Andrews

Today (February 16) is the 83rd birthday of Patty Andrews, one-third of the
Andrews Sisters.

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Make your day, listen to an Olde Tyme Radio Program

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:05:51 -0500
From: Frosty Povick <frosty@[removed];
To: old time radio list <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  WOMEN ANNOUNCERS

On 2/15/03 11:43 AM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

The small number of women announcers is to some
extent >due to the fact that they are not physically
able to >endure the long hours of work.

Let's see: When my kids were 5 and 3, my husband and I
split up.  He paid no child support.  So in addition
to my 5days a week job as a courtroom clerk, I worked
4 hours
a night, 3days a week as a telephone operator.  I also
took in ironing.  Then, of course, I tried to keep up
with the house and spend as much time with the kids as
possible.  Yeah, we women are such weaklings compared
to the big strong men.

frosty

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:06:10 -0500
From: Donna Halper <dlh@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  women broadcasters

Several comments:  for those who have read my book, "Invisible Stars: A
Social History of Women in American Broadcating" (she said, plugging
shamelessly), you are aware that since 1920, there have always been women
in so-called non-traditional roles, from Eunice Randall (who not only was
the stereotypic 'story lady' but who also did tower maintenance and helped
build radio receivers) to Marie Zimmerman (first woman to own a station,
1922), to Bertha Brainard (first woman network executive at NBC, 1927) to
Dorothy Thompson and Kathryn Cravens who did political commentary on the
news for NBC and CBS respectively in the 30s.  And while Edward R. Murrow
may have told Pauline Frederick that women are not suitable for news
broadcasting (a position Walter Cronkite and [removed] Kaltenborn both said they
agreed with), there have been women reading news at a number of stations
well before the EEOC legislation of the late 60s mandated that radio HAD TO
hire women and minorities.  Oprah Winfrey got her start as a reporter at a
Nashville station circa 1973, if I recall correctly.

And as somebody noted when quoting that bizarre 1941 manual, women were
widely regarded as unable to do long hard shifts, since the medical
community still believed that for 5 days a month, due to her menstrual
period, a woman was (gasp) incapacitated and not capable of thinking
rationally (I couldn't make this stuff up if I [removed]).  Of course this
was nonsense, but it gave the industry permission to keep women away from
the higher paying jobs.  Actually, I have always wondered why in the first
decade of broadcasting, there were numerous women on the air-- not all of
of whom did homemaker shows (although Ida Bailey Allen and other radio
homemakers were very popular)-- and somehow the republic did not fall.  Yet
by the rise of the networks and the advertising agencies, women were
restricted to 'traditional' areas, such as discussing recipes and doing
gossip shows.  It seems every time women made gains, this was followed by a
huge backlash against them.  The Golden Age of Radio was wonderful if a
woman accepted the role assigned to her-- she could be a partner in a
comedy team (George Burns and Gracie Allen, Jack Benny and Mary
Livingstone, Fred Allen and Portland Hoffa, etc) or a female vocalist like
Kate Smith or hostess of a women's show where she shilled for various
products (Mary Margaret McBride got rich doing this).  But if she wanted to
do news or be an announcer or perform in some executive capacity, the
popular media went into overdrive speechifying about how terrible this
was.  I have endless articles from the newspapers and trade publications
(all written by men) about this subject, if anyone wants to read further
bizarre quotes about what people believed regarding gender roles in the 30s
and 40s.  And let's not forget that even in the "Rosie the Riveter" era,
when women ran entire stations because the men were off at war, most of
those stations made the women sign an agreement that even if they wanted to
keep those jobs, as soon as the war was over, they would have to give them
up.  Ah the good old [removed]

Donna L. Halper, Emerson College Boston (who remembers very clearly being
told even in the late 60s by radio stations that "we don't hire
women")

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:06:44 -0500
From: George Aust <austhaus1@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Dec. 8th 1941

In Barbara Watkins column "Information Please" in Sperdvac's Radiogram
newsletter for February, she has mentioned a really nice site that some
of you may not know about. A very interesting history of Chicago radio
and television at [removed] (sorry I don't know how
to make a link) looks like a website with some rich history and lots of
links to other sites.
What really caught my eye in Barbara's column though, was that this
website has the Dec. 8th 1941 broadcast of Don McNeil's Breakfast Club.
This hour long broadcast is historically significant due to the many
interuptions for news bulletins about the happenings in the pacific. You
can download this programand the quality is fair to good.
I have a lot of Dec 7th broadcasts but not that much from the following
day so this is great for me.  I also have not heard from anyone on the
availability of MBS's Dec 7th coverage.  I'd really like to have that.
I have the NBC Red network recordings from that day but I'd also like to
have the Blue network recordings.  Anyone like to trade?

George Aust

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:06:57 -0500
From: Smzmurphy@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Chicken Heart"
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain

Thank you, Harry Machin, for responding to my post about "Chicken Heart." You
are correct -- that LIGHTS OUT episode does indeed deal with a heart that
keep growing and GROWING. . .

To my knowledge, the only version that exists is the truncated version from
Arch Oboler's "Drop Dead" album. If anyone does have the full episode, I'd
love to trade for it.

Also, I've been enjoying the great variety of responses to my question about
the OTR Time Machine.

Mike Murphy

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:07:16 -0500
From: vigor16@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  otr get togetherings

Hi all,

Does anybody out there know of any restaurants or coffee shops that
feature Old time radio as part of their theme?  I was wondering if OTR
would be a good theme for such a venu.  A friend of mine, who does that
kind of interior stuff asked me if he calls "radio days" has ever been
done.  Told him that I'd ask the experts.  Has it ever been done by any
of you?  We, otr folks walk in all professions.  We must have done it, at
least, once.  We are gutsy folks.  We wouldn't be in such enthusiastic
frame about our hobby, if we weren't.  Appreciate any feedback.

Deric M.

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