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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2008 : Issue 47
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Ed Wynn                           [ Larry Husch <lshusch@[removed]; ]
  Re: Captain Salty?                    [ Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed] ]
  re: Hound of the Baskervilles         [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
  Re:Ed Wynn                            [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: News Clips WW-2                   [ Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@sbcglo ]
  Urgent search for a Ford Hour broadc  [ "Francis Crociata" <[removed] ]
  ILAM - help!                          [ Chargous@[removed] ]
  Re: Ed Wynn                           [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Used Audio cassettes for sale         [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  Sherlock Holmes and the Library of C  [ "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  2-19 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:44:18 -0500
From: Larry Husch <lshusch@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Ed Wynn

Bob Jennings wrote:

Uh, I believe Joe MacKey made a typo in his historic events
postings. Ed Wynn signed on as a radio star in 1932, not 1922. There
were no national networks in 1922, or sponsors interested in
broadcasting nationwide yet.

Apparently this has been discussed before on Old Time Radio Digest.
Check out the webpage,
American Radio Drama 1921-1922, at
[removed] where there are quotes from
several newspaper articles which discuss the Ed Wynn program.

Larry Husch

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:44:58 -0500
From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Captain Salty?

Freddy by way of Sondra by way of David Ballarotto asked about a certain
series:

...a radio show he used to listen to as a [removed] He keeps thinking the
name was Captain [removed] He said it
took place on a ship and "bad" things always happened on this ship. The
captain was peg-legged, and you
could hear his peg leg dragging behind him, and it was "scary" to a
youngster in the late 1930's.

Well, just as a suggestion: possibly it might have been a serial by Fran
Striker. In the early 30s before he created the Lone Ranger and the Green
Hornet, Striker was mainly known for his weird-mystery serials. One of these
was THE PHANTOM PIRATE, which dealt with a ship trapped in the Sargasso Sea
and plagued by the ghost of an evil sea captain. It was released as a
transcription series in 1934 under the title THE GHOST SHIP, and could very
well have still been making the rounds of local stations in the latter part
of the decade. Unfortunately, no episodes are known to exist.

I wonder what state and town Freddy was living in when he heard this series.

Mike Ogden

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:21:16 -0500
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Hound of the Baskervilles

A comment on the Rathbone/Bruce 6 part Hound of the Baskervilles,
broadcast in 1941. I've listened to the 18 minute fragment of episode
5, the only part that survives. Much of the suspense in the book (one
of my favorites, incidentally) derives from the fact that Holmes is
offstage for much of the action. Watson knows there is a weird,
solitary figure out on the moors--someone who is not the insane
murderer Seldon, who is also loose on the moors. Watson eventually
learns that this mysterious figure is Holmes himself. In the 1941 radio
version, however, they dispense with this mystery (and thus kill the
suspense) by making it clear that Holmes is the mysterious stranger on
the moors. When I heard this, I figured this change was driven by the
necessity of having a lead actor who had to show up sometime. They
simply couldn't go two or three weeks without Basil Rathbone, the star
of the show, making an appearance! I recognize the necessity of the
change, but it's still regrettable. (Don't get me started about Bruce's
bumbling interpretation of Watson, which is sometimes funny but really
not appropriate for this story in particular.)

I think I've listened to most of the main "Hound" adaptations--the
1960s Hobson and Shelley and the 1970s Kevin McCarthy/CBSRMT versions
come to mind. I've got the 1990s Merrison and Williams version, but I
haven't yet heard it--I'm saving it, I suppose. They all have their
merits (as well as their weak points). I have great hopes for this new
version--with three episodes, it sounds like you've got the time to do
the story justice! (And I can't imagine a Holmes story better suited
for radio. The hound always looks a bit silly on the screen, but the
right howl in your ear can give you goosebumps.)

Kermyt

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:20:21 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:Ed Wynn

On 2/18/08 10:40 AM [removed]@[removed] said:

   Uh, I believe Joe MacKey made a typo in his  historic events postings.
Ed Wynn signed on as a radio star in 1932, not  1922.  There were no national
networks in 1922, or sponsors interested  in broadcasting nationwide yet.

The 1922 broadcast was a one-shot local broadcast over WJZ in Newark, and
Wynn was so traumatized by mike fright that he refused to consider
broadcasting again until Texaco talked him into it -- with a big barrel
of cash -- in 1932. By that time the musical theatre was in such an utter
state of Depression-induced collapse that he didn't have much choice if
he wanted to keep working.

Elizabeth

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:53:18 -0500
From: Don Shenbarger <donslistmail@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: News Clips WW-2

On 2/18/2008 Wayne Johnson wrote:
What I am in need of is news clips (30 seconds or less) of progress made in
the European theater of WW2 especially D-Day +1 and for the month following,
reports concerning the Battle of the Bulge and also any news bulletins of
the Korean conflict.

Many WW-2 recordings in MP3 format are available from "The Authentic
History Center". One CD deals with D-Day and the remainder of 1944,
"CD006: WWII: D-Day-Dec. 1944". Go to [removed] and
click on the CDs icon. A table of contents is available on that page
for this disc. There are recordings of both D-Day and June 7th from
the CBS News Room in New York as well as many other recordings.

Other CDs include news reports from other times.

Don

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:54:26 -0500
From: "Francis Crociata" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Urgent search for a Ford Hour broadcast 1/24/1937
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I am looking for one particular Ford Radio Hour (it may have been called the
Ford Symphony Hour, Ford Music Hour at the time).  It is the program of
January 24, 1937--on which the concert pianist Josef Hofmann (1876-1957)
played--and the "Ford Symphony" (aka Detroit Symphony, GM Symphony etc. etc)
was conducted by Victor Kolar.  The program also included selections sung by a
chorus and a talk by W. J. Cameron, a Ford VP.  The program aired on WABC in
New York from 9-10 PM EST-but was broadcast nationwide on a network.

I've come across quite a few Ford Hours from the 36-37 season--in fact,
several from this particular month, but not the one I'm after.  The Hofmann
items are the last remaining known examples of his radio performances-and are
needed for the last of the nine volume "Complete Recordings of Joseph
Hofmann."

I can promise a reasonably generous reward (based on condition) for either the
opportunity to buy transcription discs or to have access to them.  In the
latter case, they would be handled with the utmost care by an internationally
known archival sound technician.

Many thanks!

Francis Crociata

39155 11th Ave

Zephyrhills, FL 33542

813-469-5570

PS My apology if this isn't the first time my search has come to your request.
As the deadline nears, you may again.

PPS I join this list specifically to put forward this request, but find I
avidly read every issue.  Great list serve!

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:55:15 -0500
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ILAM - help!

Does anyone have a decent copy on reel, or better yet, CD,  of 8/30/50
"Murder in Turquoise Pass"?  Ift's one of the hard-to-find episodes and is
likely undated.  It's the one where the Spanish bandit walks into the camp
and holds them up, and brags about how great he is.  The copy I've heard in
the past was very muffled. 8/31 is the episode where a fake military
officer shows up at the door and demands the surrender of Ballard and his
party.  Jack pretends to be cowed by them and "surrenders" the Ballard party.

I found and transferred my copy of 8/31, another hard-to-find episode.  It
was from a cassette.  It's in a bit better sound, maybe VG, and I managed
to get rid of most of the hum.

The same cassette also had a few of the scarcer eps. of Hop Harrigan - the
two audition eps. and an ep with with the plastic plane.  I haven't
finished correcting the volume on the last two of these, but unfortunately,
it had dropouts.

Goldin lists a few more earlier 1942 eps in Poor and Fair/Good condition,
with recent collection numbers.  I haven't seen any of those.

Travis

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:55:42 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Ed Wynn

   Bob Jennings wrote --

 > Uh, I believe Joe MacKey made a typo in his  historic events postings.
Ed Wynn signed on as a radio star in 1932, not  1922.  There were no
national networks in 1922, or sponsors interested  in broadcasting
nationwide yet.

   Well, yes and no.
   According to Dunning, "He was the first performer to bring an entire
comedy show to the microphone.  The date: Feb. 19, 1922.  The place:
WJZ, Newark."  (pg. 219).
   I wrote nothing about a network.  My copy for that day was:
      1922 - Ed Wynn became the first big-name vaudeville talent to sign

      on as a radio talent. Previously, top talent had not considered
      radio a respectable medium.
   It wasn't until April, 1932, he went on any network, and then as The
Fire Chief, for Texaco.
    Joe

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:49:09 -0500
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Used Audio cassettes for sale

For those of you who still use audio cassettes, I've got a bunch for
sale. These are used tapes. We use to record conventions and business
meetings and always had an over run of tapes. It has been over 10
years since I offered that kind of service and I'm trying to clean
out the storage area.

I've sold these before and they do go kind of quickly. So if you are
interested, please email me directly.

Basically these are cassettes that still have the original recording
on them. Most are tabs out, which means if you want to record on
them, you'd have to cover the hole on the back with something like
adhesive tape. They are a mixture of C-62s and C-92. Voice quality
tape, which makes them excellent for OTR use.

They are boxed in boxes of 100 to a box. Cost is 5 cents per tape.
That comes out to $[removed] per box. Plus shipping. Shipping cost depends
on where you live. Since they contain material on the tape, I can
probably ship them by media mail and save you some money.

I just did a count and I have 25 boxes.

I've sold these before and they do go kind of quickly. So if you are
interested, please email me directly.

Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:51:43 -0500
From: "MICHAEL BIEL" <mbiel@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sherlock Holmes and the Library of Congress

From: Michael Ogden <michaelo67@[removed];
According to the OCLC database, the LOC has the
following (all from the Richard Gordon-Leigh Lovell
or Louis Hector-Leigh Lovell years):
"The Empty House"--Oct. 5, 1932--73775-1
(matrix number)
"His Last Bow"--Oct. 12, 1932--73807-1, 73808-1
[etc. etc.]

My assumption is that this is the series sponsored by G. Washington Coffee.
I had heard that this series was recorded on 14-inch RCA Victor pressings,
and it is exciting to see this series of matrix numbers.  They fit EXACTLY
into the RCA Victor matrix numbers.  For example, the two numbers that
follow "His Last Bow" is Walter O'Keefe's wonderful two-sided record of "The
Man On The Flying Trapeze" Victor 24172, recorded on Oct 13, 1932.  Right
before this program on 73802-4 is President Coolidge's speech "My Fellow
Countrymen" on Oct 11, 1932, which the discography does not note as either
being issued or existing as test pressings.  The Holmes programs probably
have matrix prefix FS which is what I saw in Victor's files for a series of
Chevrolet programs recorded the previous month.

Cambell Connell asked concerning the mid-40s series
announced as being aired on AFRS
My question is, does anyone know whether it
is possible that the government still possesses
copies of the old transcriptions that are sitting
in a government warehouse somewhere? If so,
they might have lost Sherlock Holmes and or
other old radio shows. Has anyone ever tried
a freedom of information act request?

No need for that.  What they have is not being kept secret.  As is noted
above, alot is cataloged on line.
[removed]

From: Ken Greenwald

The broadcasts from that period were released to the
public by The Baker Street Associates. I was creative
director of that company and put the entire project
together, which included special introductions before
each half hour broadcast. Lots of work, but a joy to do.
Obviously much research was done by me and my
associates to get all rights cleared . . .

I am glad that you show concern on clearing rights.  This is a major concern
of the Library of Congress, and centers on the discussion that follows.

There have been rumors, and I cannot verify this,
but a large collection of Sherlock Holmes shows
that were once given to Northwestern University
have, in turn, been given by them to The Library
of Congress.

Since I was in charge of the Northwestern collection between 1969 and 1972 I
can tell you that there were no Sherlock Holmes programs in the collection.
Now, a large number of ETs were improperly removed from Northwestern later
that decade and many of those donated to LC by a third party.  There is a
possibility that there were Holmes programs included in the OTHER discs
donated by that same party, and that is something that could be determined
by looking at LC's paperwork of this donation.

If that is the case, then we can "kiss goodbye"
to those shows, as the Library lets very little
out, but takes in a great deal.

Elizabeth and I (and others) have commented before on this very
short-sighted possessiveness attitude.  It is as if you can't have it in
your own collection it doesn't exist.  It does.  It is being preserved in
the best possible form.  It will be there for you to hear any time you want
to.  And it will be there hundreds of years from now, something none of us
can guarantee for our own collections!!!  Stop throwing a hissy fit just
because you can't easily get your own copy.  It is a reference library, not
a circulating library.  Do you complain because you can't get your own
dinosaur bone from the Museum of Natural History??????????  How about a moon
rock from the Smithsonian???  You go to the museum to see the dinosaur.  You
go to the museum to see some moon rocks.  Go to LC to hear what you want to
hear.

Any one can contact The Library of Congress to
obtain a copy of any radio show, provided they
have credentials from an accredited college or
university or can prove that they are writing a
book about that show or series of shows.

Not quite true.  You can go there and listen to them,
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 but obtaining copies requires permissions from the copyright holder.
[removed]   If you are the representative
of an organization like the Baker Street Associates that can negotiate the
copyright permissions, it might be easier.  If you can demonstrate that
there are no copyrights on the materials -- and they often can tell you if
this is the case -- you can also get copies made.

The cost of obtaining a copy from their stored
collection of radio shows is very high. I believe
this is to discourage anyone from "collecting"
a series of broadcasts from them.

Not at all.  Their charges are comparable to that of any regular
professional recording studio.  I have said this before here, their
recording laboratory is not supported by tax dollars.  It has to pay its own
way just like any professional recording studio.

Just like the end of the film Raiders of The Lost
Ark, whatever is stored in that huge government
warehouse usually disappears forever (with a few
exceptions, of course). I hope this helps.  Ken Greenwald

This attitude does NOT help.  It is far more likely that recordings in
private collections disappear.  I have noticed that every once in a while
there are questions on the digest about the whereabouts of the OTR
collection of a deceased collector whose catalog listed some otherwise
unfound programs.  And the whereabouts of the original discs of the majority
of circulating programs are unknown.  At least at LC most of their programs
are from the original discs which are maintained safely in the collection.

As mentioned, LC is very concerned with protecting the rights of the
copyright holder.  I have pointed out to my friends there that it does seem
strange that photocopy machines are freely available to violate copyrights
of printed materials while they zealously guard sound and video recordings.
If you have complaints about the copyright law, I can assure you that the
people at LC likewise have complaints because they do not want to have these
restrictions on their patrons.  Don't complain to me.  Don't complain to
them.  Complain to YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS.  THEY were the ones who
passed the laws and/or can change them.  And it is THEIR library.  The
Library of CONGRESS.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:52:46 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  2-19 births/deaths

February 19th births

02-19-1893 - Cedric Hardwicke - Stourbridge, England - d. 8-6-1964
actor: Sherlock Holmes "BBC Home Theatre"; Winston Churchill "These
Four Men"
02-19-1895 - Louie Calhern - NYC - d. 5-12-1956
actor: "Radio Reader's Digest"
02-19-1896 - Eddie Jackson - d. 7-16-1980
comic: "Jimmy Durante Show"; "Mail Call"; "Big Show"
02-19-1899 - Carl Matthews - Oklahoma Territory - d. 5-3-1959
actor: "The Cuckoo Hour"
02-19-1901 - William Post, Jr. - d. 9-26-1989
actor: John Perry "John's Other Wife"
02-19-1902 - Eddie Peabody - Reading, MA - d. 11-7-70
banjoist: (The Banjo King) "National Barn Dance"
02-19-1902 - Kay Boyle - St. Paul, MN - d. 12-27-1992
writer: "NBC Presents: Short Story"
02-19-1910 - Lionel Clouser - Shamokin, PA - d. 10-17-1942
musician: "The Bob Crosby Show"
02-19-1911 - Merle Oberon - Tasmania, Australia - d. 11-23-1979
actor: "Orson Welles Theatre"; "Stars Over Hollywood"
02-19-1912 - Saul Chaplin - Brooklyn, NY - d. 11-15-1997
composer
02-19-1913 - Jack Leonard - NYC - d. 6-17-1988
singer: (Tommy Dorsey's Band) "Meet the Music"
02-19-1915 - Dick Emery - London, England - d. 1-2-1983
comedian: "Educating Archie"
02-19-1915 - Fred Freiberger - NYC - d. 3-2-2003
writer: "Suspense"; "Family Theatre"
02-19-1918 - Fay McKenzie - Hollywood, CA
actor: "Blue Ribbon Town"
02-19-1921 - Chris Gampel - Montreal, Canada
actor: "The Eternal Light"; "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
02-19-1922 - Sandy Becker - NYC - d. 4-9-1996
actor, announcer: Jerry Malone "Young Dr. Malone"; "Backstage Wife"
02-19-1924 - Lee Marvin - NYC - d. 8-29-1987
actor: "Dragnet"
02-19-1937 - Lee Harding - Australia
author: Several of his works adapted for radio

February 19th deaths

01-03-1920 - Lester Bashara - d. 2-19-1990
newscaster: KGFW Kearney, Nebraska
02-22-1915 - Jules Munshin - NYC - d. 2-19-1970
actor: "MGM Musical Comedy Theatre"
03-13-1918 - Ina Ray Hutton - Chicago, IL - d. 2-19-1984
bandleader: "Spotlight Bands"
03-28-1922 - Paul Bartell - Milwaukee, WI - d. 2-19-2006
announcer, disk jockey: "Blue Baron Show"; "Fox Club"
04-14-1913 - John Howard - Cleveland, OH - d. 2-19-1995
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Hollywood Hotel"
04-23-1921 - Janet Blair - Altoona, PA - d. 2-19-2007
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre", "Abbott and Costello"
05-03-1909 - Fort Pearson - d. 2-19-1989
announcer: "Beat the Band"; "Queen for a Day"; "Hoosier Hot Shots"
07-17-1902 - Edward Gargan - Brooklyn, NY - d. 2-19-1964
actor: "This Is Your [removed]"; "This Is Our Heritage"
07-27-1877 - Florence Gill - London, England - d. 2-19-1965
actor: "Uncle Walter's Doghouse"
07-29-1892 - Lewis James - Dexter, MI - d. 2-19-1959
vocalist: "The Mobiloil Concert"; "The Revelers Quartet"
08-17-1900 - Quincy Howe - Boston, MA - d. 2-19-1977
newscaster: "Quincy Howe: Comment"
08-17-1912 - Gogo De Lys - Edmonton, Canada - d. 2-19-2003
singer: "Carefree Carnival"; "Little Ol' Hollywood"; "Stoopnagle and
Budd"
08-23-1926 - Eugene Troopnick - Boston, MA - d. 2-19-2003
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
08-25-1904 - Alice White - Paterson, NJ - d. 2-19-1983
actor: Blondie Bumstead "Blondie"
09-05-1892 - Joseph Szigeti - Budapest, Austria-Hungary - d. 2-19-1973
violinist: "Camel Caravan"; "Elgin Christmas Party"; "Concert Hall"
09-23-1913 - Stanley Kramer - NYC - d. 2-19-2001
film director: "Jack Benny Program"; "Stagestruck"
09-30-1905 - Michael Powell - Bekesbourne, Kent, England - d. 2-19-1990
screenwriter: "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-07-1927 - Don Rickles - Portland, OR - d. 2-19-1985
announcer: "Nightbeat"; The Whisperer"; "The Whistler"
10-20-1913 - "Grandpa" Jones - Niagra, KY - d. 2-19-1998
country singer, banjoist: "Grand Ole Opry"
12-29-1879 - Billy Mitchell - Nice, France - d. 2-19-1936
aviator: "The World's Most Honored Flights"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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