Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #21
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Date: 1/19/2007 4:18 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 21
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Old time radio museum             [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
  Location of Radio Museums - Chicken   [ "JLF" <jlf@[removed]; ]
  Online OTR-- without Shoutcast        [ "origami" <origami@[removed]; ]
  re: Sardi's                           [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Museum                                [ <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  Elmira OTR Event                      [ seandd@[removed] ]
  Superman on Radio Inquiry             [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
  Jack Benny Quote                      [ "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@hotm ]
  CINCINNATI CONVENTION                 [ "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed] ]
  1-19 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Peggy Delaney and Recipe For Murder   [ "Charles Salt" <charles_salt@hotmai ]
  Re: The Popular Shift                 [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:32:13 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Old time radio museum

Never try to take a man's dreams away from him.  They may be all he has left.

Good luck Joe in whatever you decide on in  regards to your museum.

Charlie

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:32:42 -0500
From: "JLF" <jlf@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Location of Radio Museums - Chicken & Egg
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Having lived in a major metropolitan area and now in frontier rural America
I have to chuckle at the discussions about where to locate radio museums.
Yes it would be nice to locate them in or very near a metro area but how
does one get enough revenue in these areas to cover the inflated cost of
rent and/or buildings? Most of rural America has lots of vacated large
buildings you can pick up for a "song"! Plus a museum in a small rural town
might help save the town economically. And now with the Internet one can
advertise the museum for almost nothing.

JLF

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:33:35 -0500
From: "origami" <origami@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Online OTR-- without Shoutcast

Hi,

I have posted the online addresses of internet radio
stations carrying OTR programs.
All you have to do is copy one of the twelve addresses and
insert it into your Windows Media player where it invites
you to "Open Location." Paste or type it in, and then it
will play.  Does for me, anyway, in my Windows machine.

[removed]

Instructions included.

BTW, I have no problem with Shoutcast running Linux as my
operating system, but do notice that Windows users do not
have it that easy.  They are asked to use WinAmp.
Downloading WinAmp should solve that, and WinAmp has a good
reputation.  (Googling for any warnings about Shoutcast or
any problems at all with using that service-- found no
problems worthy to be put on the net.)

Nonetheless, use the addresses on the link above and you can
skip Shoutcast and Winamp altogether.

I hope that you enjoy some online OTR,
John
[removed]  Email me if you encounter problems or find a mistake.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:34:15 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Sardi's

It occurs to me that most of the non-fictional places referred to in old
radio broadcasts (and old TV broadcasts, too) are no more accessible to us
today than the fictional ones.  I have less of a sense of just what the Copa
is or was (I think there might have been several) than I do of Wistful
Vista.

Perhaps it's just as well to keep these legendary spots in imagination as
they were, but if someone feels like making a list of the, uh, 'real' places
we've visited in our minds so many times, along with some sort of
description or even a contemporary photograph, it might make interesting
reading.

M Kinsler

a font of projects for other people to do

512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 43130 740-687-6368
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:24:35 -0500
From: <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Museum

is the museum about Fibber McGee and Molly up and running in IL, and are
there any bed and breakfast places open in the USA, that has a tie in to
OTR?

The Museum of Broadcast Communications is not open for business, but it will
be this year possibly summer. The web sit is [removed] . It has been
closed for several years. The museum lost its old location and bought an old
loft building that they are spending millions to remodel. It will be
beautiful.
The building is in Chicago's loop just north of the Chicago River at State
street. You won't finf any bed and Breakfast in that neigboorhood, but lots of
hotels.  Chicago has parking garages that may require a bank loan to pay for
the parking Fee. I would look for a suburban hotel of B&B. Chicago has great
public transportation As they say "Don't leave home without it" (American
Express or equal)

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:20:25 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Elmira OTR Event
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Coverage of Gary Yoggy's OTR event in Elmira New York from the local paper. 
Lots of good OTR background.
Sean Dougherty SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:20:54 -0500
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Superman on Radio Inquiry

MWOTRC received the below inquiry from a researcher who read at our web
site, a two-part article in the 2005 RADIO RECALL on "Superman in the
Media" written by Thomas Powers. <[removed]>

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"I'm the author of "Superhero: The Secret Origin of a Genre"
<[removed]> and I co-chair the Comic Arts Conference
annually in San Diego.  I'm currently working on Superman research and
am looking for summaries, scripts, or audio copies of the following:
8-31-42   Superman comes to Earth
9-1-42     Eben Kent dies in fire
6-3-43     Meteor from Krypton
I'd appreciate any help you can render.

Dr. Peter Coogan
Kinkel Center at Fontbonne University, St. Louis, MO
<PCoogan@[removed];

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Digesters who can assist can contact him off-list, with a dual posting
on the Digest for others interested.

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:23:13 -0500
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Jack Benny Quote

Noveist Robert Anton Wilson died recently.  His obiturary in the British
paper The Guardian contains this paragraph:

When his last illness became terminal, he was bombarded with financial
support from readers. He paraphrased comedian Jack Benny to thank them,
saying: "I do not deserve this, but I also have severe leg problems and I
don't deserve them either." His last posting on his website said: "I look
forward without dogmatic optimism but without dread. I love you all and I
deeply implore you to keep the lasagna flying."

Complete obit at:

[removed],,1992696,[removed]

What Jack Benny quote exactly is being paraphrased?  It's not familiar to
me.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:53:16 -0500
From: "Bob Burchett" <haradio@[removed];
To: "[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  CINCINNATI CONVENTION
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When you call the hotel to make your room reservations ask
for Betty, and you
won't have any problems. [removed]
I know it's early, but a couple of of
people have had a problem.
I'm glad some of you are calling this early. I'll
take that as
good sign for a good turnout again this year.  For more
information I have a flyer I can email.

Bob Burchett

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:13:46 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-19 births/deaths

January 19th births

01-19-1809 - Edgar Allan Poe - Boston, MA - d. 10-7-1849
author: "Columbia Workshop";"World's Greatest Short Stories"
01-19-1866 - Harry Davenport - NYC - d. 8-9-1949
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"; "Family Theatre"
01-19-1887 - Alexander Woollcott - Phalanx, NJ - d. 1-23-1943
commentator: "Early Bookworm"; "Town Crier"
01-19-1905 - Anne Hummert - Baltimore, MD - d. 7-5-1996
producer: "Backstage Wife"; "American Album of Familiar Music"
01-19-1906 - Lanny Ross - Seattle, WA - d. 4-25-1988
singer: "Lanny Ross Program"; "Maxwell House Show Boat"
01-19-1908 - Ish Kabibble (Merwyn Bogue) - Erie, PA - d. 6-4-1994
comedian: "Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge"
01-19-1909 - Merrill E. Joels - Hartford, CT - d. 9-5-2001
actor: "Counterspy"; "Aunt Jenny"; "The Big Story"
01-19-1910 - Jaime Del Valle - d. 9-16-1981
producer, director: "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"; "Count of Monte
Cristo"
01-19-1913 - Edward M. Asherman - d. 7-1-2005
composer/guitarist/singer: Xavier Cugat Orchestra
01-19-1916 - Marion Sweet - d. 7-xx-1978
actor: Dragon Lady "Terry and the Pirates"
01-19-1919 - Ray Eberle - Hoosick Falls, NY - d. 8-25-1979
singer: "Glenn Miller and His Orchestra"; "Glenn Miller's Moonlight
Serenade"
01-19-1920 - Ken Nordine - Chicago, IL
announcer: "Jack Armstrong, The All-American Boy"; "The Breakfast Club"
01-19-1922 - Guy Madison - Pumpkin Center, CA - d. 2-6-1996
actor: Wild Bill Hickok "Wild Bill Hickok"
01-19-1927 - Nancy Dickerson - Wauwatosa, WI - d. 10-18-1997
newswoman: "784 Days That Changed America (Watergate Scandal)
01-19-1927 - Peter Fernandez - NYC
actor: George Bigelow "The Aldrich Family"; "Skip "Right to Happiness"
01-19-1928 - "Little" Jimmie Sizemore
singer with father Asher: "Grand Old Opry"
01-19-1931 - Robert MacNeil - Montreal, Canada
newscaster: CBC Canada
01-19-1931 - Tippi Hedren - New Ulm, MN
actor: "World's Fair Holiday"
01-19-1932 - George Mann MacBeth - Lanarkshire, Scotland - d. 2-16-1992
poet, producer: BBC Radio
01-19-1939 - Phil Everly - Chicago, IL
singer: (The Everly Brothers) "March of Dimes"; "Country Hoedown"

January 19th deaths

01-20-1898 - Norma Varden - London, England - d. 1-19-1989
actor: "Crime Classics"; "NBC University Theatre"
01-22-1914 - Joy Hodges - Des Moines, IA - d. 1-19-2003
vocalist; "The Joe Penner Show"
03-10-1918 - Laddie Seaman - Reading, PA - d. 1-19-1942
actor: Scoop Ward "News of Youth"; Biff Bradley "Pepper Young's Family"
04-18-1908 - Irra Petina - Petrograd, Russia - d. 1-19-2000
singer: "The Railroad Hour"
04-22-1920 - Hal March - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-19-1970
comedian: Matt Henshaw "December Bride"; Mr. Cook "Too Many Cooks"
05-26-1884 - Charles Winninger - Athens, WI - d. 1-19-1969
actor: Captain Henry "Show Boat"; Uncle Charlie "Uncle Charlie's Tent
Show"
05-31-1904 - Clifton Utley - Chicago, IL - d. 1-19-1978
newsman: (Father of Garrick) "Comments by Clifton Utley"
07-08-1917 - Glenn Langan - Denver, CO - d. 1-19-1991
actor: "Chuck Morgan "Stand By For Crime"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-04-1898 - Hugh O'Connell - d. 1-19-1943
actor, comedian: "Vanity Fair"
09-05-1879 - Harold Sanford - Florence, MA - d. 1-19-1945
conductor: "Philco Hour"; "Exploring America with Carveth Wells"
09-11-1887 - Gus Arnheim - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-19-1955
orchestra leader: "Woodbury Soap Show"
10-18-1913 - Martin Blaine - Illinois - d. 1-19-1989
actor: Adam Sheppard "FBI in Peace and War"; Scott 'Tubby' Truman
"Valiant Lady"
11-09-1913 - Hedy Lamarr - Vienna, Austria - d. 1-19-2000
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-17-1917 - Byron Keith - Illinois - d. 1-19-1996
Started his career in radio in Boise, Idaho in the 1930s
12-28-1887 -  Charles Dingle - Wabash, IN - d. 1-19-1956
actor: Employer "Meet the Dixons"

Ron Sayles

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:26:18 -0500
From: "Charles Salt" <charles_salt@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Peggy Delaney and Recipe For Murder request -
 corrections

Sorry, my mistake regarding the CBC shows I needed. As some subscribers have
rightly pointed out Peggy Delaney finishes at episode 39, the other shows I
listed are seperate, unrelated plays (which I have anyway, doh!).

I still need the last four episodes of Recipe For Murder though. Thanks

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:29:14 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: The Popular Shift

On 1/18/07 2:21 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

That would mostly be Paley's doing, wouldn't it? I believe he was the
first to smell buckets of money in pop music, even as Sarnoff was
still trying to bring the Concert Hall into the parlors of Mr. and
Mrs. North America. (Whither all the ships at sea?)

Well, CBS didn't really become a significant factor until after the
alliance with Paramount and the affiliation with Don Lee toward the end
of 1929 -- and both of these did bring an increased emphasis on "popular"
types of entertainment as opposed to the more upscale. But by then, Rudy
Vallee was already a star on NBC, the Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra was
going strong, and Joe Cook was about to become the first major
musical-comedy star to get a regular series. So I'd say it was more a
case of sponsors getting wise to the idea that upper-crust programming
wasn't necessarily the way to go -- that was what sparked the trend
*toward* such programming in 1928, more than any focused network
programming policy, and when it became clear that more people liked the
Ipana Troubadours than the Whittall Anglo-Persians, the trend moved just
as quickly in the other direction.

I think what's caused too many historians to assume there was a more
significant cultural push toward upscale programming than there actually
was is the fact that many slick magazines of the time published articles
complaining about the amount of low-down jazz and hillbilly music on the
air. These articles may have represented a point of view common to a
certain social class, but they never represented the actual mood of the
great mass of the public -- and in the end, radio programming was about
giving that public want it wanted, and not forcibly "elevating" them.

Elizabeth

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