Subject: [removed] Digest V2007 #96
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Date: 3/25/2007 11:57 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 96
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Carol Richard Hoosier?                [ "Mark Kratzner" <hollywoodhoosiers@ ]
  3-25 births/deaths                    [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  The Cliche Expert                     [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
  Walgreen's OTR CDs                    [ Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed]; ]
  A SAD ANNOUNCEMENT                    [ David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@c ]
  Microphines To Famous Objects         [ "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed] ]
  re; the ILAM ET saga                  [ Chargous@[removed] ]
  Real sound [removed]                 [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Re: Film editing and Groucho          [ Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed]; ]
  OTR in the News                       [ seandd@[removed] ]
  ILAM                                  [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:23:01 -0400
From: "Mark Kratzner" <hollywoodhoosiers@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Carol Richard Hoosier?

Sorry to hear about the death of Carol Richard. For some reason I thought
she had an Indiana connect. I can't seem to find my source. Can anyone on
the list give me details?

Mark Kratzner
Hall of Hollywood Hoosiers Vincennes, IN
Hometown of Red Skelto

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:23:11 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  3-25 births/deaths

March 25th births

03-25-1867 - Arturo Toscanini - Parma, Italy - d. 1-16-1957
conductor: "NBC Symphony Orchestra"
03-25-1887 - Raymond Gram Swing - Cortland, NY - d. 12-22-1968
commentator: "Voice of America"
03-25-1892 - Andy Clyde - Blaingowrie, Scotland - d. 5-18-1967
actor: California Carlson "Hopalong Cassidy"
03-25-1897 - John Laurie - Dumfries, Scotland - d. 6-23-1980
actor: James Fraser "Dad's Army"
03-25-1899 - Bella Spewack - Bucharest, Romania - d. 4-27-1990
writer: "The Radio Guild"
03-25-1901 - Ed Begley - Hartford, CT - d. 4-28-1970
actor: Walt Levinson "Richard Diamond, Private Detective"
03-25-1901 - John Earl Fetzer - Decatur, IN - d. 2-21-1991
broadcast pioneer: "WKZO Fiftieth Anniversary Broadcast"
03-25-1903 - Binnie Barnes - London, England - d. 7-27-1998
panelist: "Leave It to the Girls"; "Breakfast with Binnie and Mike"
03-25-1903 - Frankie Carle - Providence, RI - d. 3-7-2001
bandleader, pianist: "Pot o' Gold"; "Treasure Chest"
03-25-1906 - Jean Sablon - Nogent-sur-Marne, France - d. 2-24-1994
baritone/composer: (French Troubadour) "Shell Chateau"; Magic Key of
RCA"
03-25-1906 - Margaret Daum - Pittsburgh, PA - d. 2-23-1977
singer: "American Album of Familiar Music"
03-25-1908 - David Lean - Croydon, Surrey, England - d. 4-16-1991
screenwriter, film director: "Lux Radio Theatre"
03-25-1908 - Philip Reed - NYC - d. 12-21-1996
actor: Ross Barrington "Society Girl"; Brian Wells "David Harum"
03-25-1909 - Jay Blackton - NYC - d. 1-8-1994
composer, conductor, pianist: "Stu Erwin Show"; "Broadway Showtime"
03-25-1913 - Prescott Robinson - Montreal, Canada - d. 5-19-1999
newscaster: "Eight O'Clock Morning News on Mutual"
03-25-1914 - Robert Rounseville - Attleboro, MA - d. 8-6-1974
singer: "The Voice of Firestone"
03-25-1916 - Jean Rogers - Belmont, MA - d. 2-24-1991
actor: Elaine Dascomb "Those We Love"
03-25-1919 - Jeanne Cagney - NYC - d. 12-7-1984
actor: (Sister of James Cagney) "Movietone Radio Theatre"; "Suspense"
03-25-1920 - Howard Cosell - Winston-Salem, NC - d. 3-23-1995
sportscaster: "Speaking of Sports"
03-25-1921 - Nancy Kelly - Lowell, MA - d. 1-15-1995
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Free Company"; "Suspense"
03-25-1924 - Harold Neal - Michigan - d. 2-27-1980
announcer: "Challenge of the Yukon"; "Green Hornet"; "Lone Ranger"
03-25-1925 - Len Dressler - d. 10-16-2005
voice of the Jolly Green Giant
03-25-1940 - Anita Bryant - Barnsdall, OK
singer: "Guard Session"; "Let's Go To Town"
03-25-1948 - Bonnie Bedelia - New York, NY
actor: "Empire of the Air"
03-25-1965 - Sarah Jessica Parker - Nelsonville, OH
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

March 25th deaths

01-15-1899 - Goodman Ace - Kansas City, MO - d. 3-25-1982
comedian, writer: "Easy Aces"
02-25-1906 - Warren Hymer - NYC - d. 3-25-1948
actor: "Screen Guild Theatre"
03-12-1921 - Earl Nightingale - d. 3-25-1989
actor, announcer: Sky King "Sky King"
05-06-1899 - Billy Cotton - London, England - d. 3-25-1969
bandleader: "Wakey Wakey!!"
05-10-1921 - Nancy Walker - Philadelphia, PA - d. 3-25-1992
actor: "Mail Call"
06-01-1905 - Robert Newton - Shaftesbury, England - d. 3-25-1956
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-12-1929 - Buck Owens - Sherman, TX - d. 3-25-2006
singer: "Here's to Veterans"
08-16-1915 - Gloria Blondell - NYC - d. 3-25-1986
actor: Gerry Booker "I Love A Mystery" Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery
Time"
09-08-1902 - Welcome Lewis - d. 3-25-1999
singer: "Singo"; "The Singing Bee"
09-16-1911 - Paul Henning - Independence, MO - d. 3-25-2005
writer: "Burns and Allen"
09-27-1887 - Pat "Uncle Ezra" Barrett - Holden, MO - d. 3-25-1959
actor: "National Barn Dance"; Uncle Ezra "Uncle Ezra"
11-22-1906 - Trezzvant W. Anderson - Charlotte, NC - d. 3-25-1963
newscaster: "Pittsburgh Courier News"
11-29-1910 - Al Schwartz - Passaic, NJ - d. 3-25-1988
writer: "Phil Harris/Alice Faye Show"; "Bob Hope Show"
12-08-1916 - Richard Fleischer - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-25-2006
film director: "The TM Radio Program"
12-11-1922 - Robert Arden - London, England - d. 3-25-2004
actor: "America Looks Abroad"
12-12-1915 - Bea Fontane - New Milford, NJ - d. 3-25-2002
singer: (The Fontane Sisters) "Chesterfield Supper Club"

Ron Sayles

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:23:28 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Cliche Expert

Does anyone have a copy of Norman Corwin's "The Cliche Expert" in decent
sound?

I'd like to use exerpts in a business presentation soon but the copy I have
is terrible.

Thanks for any help,

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:24:38 -0400
From: Rick Keating <pkeating89@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Walgreen's OTR CDs

After reading about the OTR shows on CD at Walgreen's
the other day (I somehow missed the original messages
on the subject from last summer), I went to the
Walgreen's near me and found a few. Then, curious to
see what else was available, I visited five other
Walgreen's stores in the days that followed. I ended
up buying 10 CDs in all.

I've only listened to four of them so far, but haven't
noticed any problems with sound quality. When I went
back through past issues of the digest for references
to the Walgreen's CDs, in part to find out how many
there are in all, I found a post where someone had
complained about the sound quality of _Fibber McGee
and Molly_ (which was actually _Fibber McGee and
Company_ at the time). I didn't notice any problems on
my copy for either episode. At least nothing major.

My research into past issues of the digest reveals
there's a _Jack Benny_ CD. I've not seen it, but I
haven't been to all the Walgreen's near me. I'm
curious, though. Does anyone know how many of these
"Golden Age of Radio Collection" CDs there are? I
figure there's got to be at least one more than the
_Jack Benny_ one. After all, the _Dimension X_ CD with
the episodes "The Lost Race" and "To the Future" (both
very good shows, by the way), can't be the _only_
program in the science fiction collection.

One great thing about these CDs, apart from their low
price, is that so far as I can tell, having listened
to only four of them, (and knowing that an episode of
a show can have various titles, especially if it never
received an official one), only one of the 20 episodes
is a duplicate of one I already own (the _Ozzie and
Harriet_ episode entitled "Antique Vase.") Another,
the _Aldrich Family_ episode "Making Henry Jealous"
_may_ be a duplicate. I have one titled "Henry is
Jealous of a Jock", but until I listen to the new one,
I won't know if it's the same one, given a slightly
different title.

Rick

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:26:39 -0400
From: David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed];
To: OTR DIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  A  SAD   ANNOUNCEMENT

    Friends of old time radio collector and dealer Pat Mc Coy may
want to send him condolences on the loss of his wife of 40 plus
years. Dolor ores, who was Pat's right hand in the otr business had
been ill for the past several years and lovingly cared for at home
for all but the last few weeks when she required greater medical
care. She passed away somewhere near 6:00 AM on March 24.

     Pat is being comforted by his very supportive children and while
I would not recommend any calls to him for at least a week or two I
know that he would appreciate notes of  condolence  from folks in the
hobby who know him.

Dave Siegel (who would rather be posting a more positive notice.)

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:26:49 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi Friends,

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THE DINAH SHORE CHEVROLET SHOW
Television program from June, 1957
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starring: Alice Frost and Joe DeSantis. A news story turns into murder.

RADIO PREVIEWS THE MOVIES
1933 Paramount's Movie Parade
"Paramount Is On The Air" Bing Crosby in "Too Much Harmony"
"Paramount Is On The Air" Claudette Colbert in " Torch Singer"

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originally aired November 1, 1947 on NBC
Starring: Forrest Lewis, Viola Berwig, Beryl Vaughn, Cliff Sabere, Sherman
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originally aired July 29, 1945 on CBS
Starring: Raymond Walburn, Verna Felton, Tom Hanlen announcing.
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Starring: Shirley Booth, Ethel Owen, Everett Sloane, Ken Roberts announcing.
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     The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
     Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on the Net

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:16:48 -0400
From: "Bill Knowlton" <udmacon1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Microphines To Famous Objects

For decades WSM, Nashville, broadcast "live" the Pan American passenger
train as it headed south out of Union Station bound for New Orleans. It was
so dependable that it was regularly scheduled each day at 5 [removed]

WSM had a mike down by the track adjacent to its huge transmitter tower
south of Nashville.

Hank Williams in his tribute song to the train, "Pan American," saluted the
broadcast with the line:
"when she passes that Nashville tower you can hear that whistle [removed]"

When I was a kid I remember that when Arthur Godfrey broadcast from his
Virginia farm he had a mike line to his bird feeder.

Every New Years Eve at 7 pm I tune in the BBC to hear the midnight rung in
"live" by Big Ben in London.

And the people of Poland have a daily broadcast of the "Trumpeteer Of
Krakow" as he blows his horn out the steeple windows of the Catholic
Cathedral.

BILL KNOWLTON

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:24:49 -0400
From: Chargous@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re; the ILAM ET saga

While I'm familiar with the Becker/Bloch story, it still brings up the
frustrating point; where are the ILAM ETs?

As far as I know, I'm the last person to "officially" find an ILAM
episode.  They were on the back of some material from a Utah station that
was heavily into the America First movement.  However, the original
engineer had keyed up the ILAM sides (2) so they wouldn't be played
again.  I spent a lot of frustrating time dubbing it.  I finally managed to
get almost every word out of it it runs about 28:51.  "Eight Kinds of
Murder", 6/30/41.

I released a cleaner, fresher, version of Eight Kinds on usenet a couple of
weeks [removed] will never be perfect due to the extensive disc damage, but
it's listenable.

I did my part and released mine; I'd urge anyone that might have some new
ones to release theirs (I have no problem with them making some money on
their time and efforts).  The longer someone sits on it, the less of a
market there will be.  I know, as I had sat on mine for a while, trying to
get trade value - I never really did, so I finally just released it.

Does anyone know where the harder-to-find episodes of Turquoise Pass (8/30,
8/31, 9/1/50) came from?  They came from a different source than 8/22 and
they're always badly muffled or have a bad buzz.

And a big THANK YOU  to all the people who DID release their episodes over
the years, whether it be for profit or for trade; thank you JIm Harmon,
Dave Amaral, and the New York guy who released some of the '51-52 ones,
Dave Goldin, Ted Kneebone, and anyone I've missed.

	Travis

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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:24:59 -0400
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Real sound [removed]

Someone has asked about the use of "live" real sounds on radio programs.
Some of the significant sounds that were done live originated at the NBC
studios in Chicago.  The people responsible for "Empire Builder", sponsored
by the Great Northern Railway, decided to use the actual sounds of a steam
locomotive, the whistles, the bells, etc. Probably everything except the
actual engine!  Some of these items were mounted on the roof of the NBC
studio building (Merchandise Mart?) and actuated by signals controlled by
the program's engineers on cues by the director.  This website shows some of
the details of these early broadcasts (1930-31, etc.)...

[removed]

In doing some local programs by the students at the SD School for the Blind,
I found that the best sounds came from the real objects handled by the
actors themselves!

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
[removed]~stmarkch/

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:55:41 -0400
From: Fred Berney <fsberney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Film editing and Groucho

From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];

Many years ago, I read an article in American Cinematographer magazine
about the way You Bet Your Life was covered.  According to the
article, the show used multiple
sound-on-film cameras (like Auricons), but the film soundtrack was used
as a director's signal between cameras, with the audio being recorded
separately on tape.

I read something similar and then when I worked at Palmer Films in
San Francisco back in the 70's, I was told how this worked. They
did  the same thing on the I Love Lucy Show.

The shows was shot with two or three cameras. The director could
control the light in the camera that recorded the sound. By pressing
a button, this would put a black stripe on the sound track. So the
director could "call the shots" but switching between cameras.

All the editor had to do was to cut the film from the three cameras
to match the stripe on each film. from each camera. The decision as
to which camera was to be on at any certain time, was already decided
by the director. A very fast was of editing film. This relates to
live TV where the director or to be exact, a switcher, will switch
between cameras.

Bill Palmer had either invented this system or something like it. I
believe that the Captain Z-ro show was shot this way.

It has been years since I was told all of this, but as I recall, Bill
Palmer had something to do with multi camera shooting and editing.

As most of you know, Mr. Palmer worked with Ampex and Bing Crosby to
invent the tape recorder. Again the story is vague, but Bill Palmer
had designed a tape recorder that had the capston and pinch roller on
the same side that the feed reel was on. So that the tape was
"pushed" through the heads instead of being "pulled" through the heads.

Ampex didn't want to pay him royalties, so they redesigned the
recorder to have the capston and pinch roller placed on the same side
that the take up reel is on.

When I worked at Palmer Films, they still had that original tape
recorder and it was still working.

There was a lot of history at Palmer Films. I was told that the
galvanometer that we used to put sound tracks onto film was the same
one used back in the days of the Jazz Singer movie. I thought that
that film had sound on disc, but maybe at some point the sound was
transferred directly to film.

I wish I could go back in time. I was too young to really appreciate
the people I was meeting in San Francisco. I had invented a piece of
editing equipment and that got me into the offices of Francis Ford
Copala - America Zoetrope. For all I know, I might have met George
Lukus and didn't know it.

Fred
Check us out for old time radio & TV shows & Movie Serials
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:57:39 -0400
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR in the News
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A tribute to OTR from the Terra Haute Tribune Star.  A great lede paragraph
for Jack Benny
fans:

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And a live
stage show tribute to OTR is previewed in the Lenawee Daily Telegram.  The
article also includes some OTR anecdotes.  Apparently, it's in Michigan, so
Jim Widner may want to
go.

[removed]

Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed] 

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:56:53 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  ILAM

Hi Everybody,

picking up on Kenny post about the ILAM ETS.  I had lunch  with Karlton E.
Morse in 1985 during the SPERDVAC convention and he explain that he had a
sound engineer record the shows and kept them, but he lost track of him and
did not recall his name.  Take care,

Walden Hughes

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