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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 20
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
1-18 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Stuff no longer produced or availabl [ <whhsa@[removed]; ]
Frederick Ziv [ "Jed Dolnick" <jdolnick@[removed] ]
Re: F. W. Ziv [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
OTR sponsors still with us [ ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed]; ]
Sponsorships [ Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed] ]
looking for two Lux episodes [ Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@yahoo. ]
Re: Scrapping the Masters [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Re George Putnam and other family hi [ Brianhluk@[removed] ]
George Putnam(s) [ "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed] ]
The Guiding Light [ Jeff Weaver <jweaver@[removed]; ]
Frederic (no k) Ziv [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
Ipana/Rising Sun [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
Frederick Ziv [ "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@hotma ]
Re: Pepsodent and Lever [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
Address Request [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
A Couple More Pepsodent Comments [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
Jack Benny in the News [ seandd@[removed] ]
Ipana toothpaste [ Cecil <cecil@[removed]; ]
Milton Berle [ [removed]@[removed] (Marj ]
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:53:42 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 1-18 births/deaths
January 18th births
01-18-1882 - A. A. Milne - London, England - d. 1-31-1956
author: "Fleischmann's Yeast Hour"
01-18-1892 - Oliver Hardy - Harlem, GA - d. 8-7-1957
comedian: "Laurel and Hardy Show" Pilot, never broadcast
01-18-1899 - Lucille Wall - Chicago, IL - d. 7-11-1986
actress: Portia Blake "Portia Faces Life"; Belle Jones "Lorenzo Jones"
01-18-1902 - Helen Lynd - New Jersey - d. 4-1-1992
actress: Miss Duffy "Duffy's Tavern"
01-18-1904 - Cary Grant - Bristol, England - d. 11-29-1986
actor: Jim Blandings "Mr. and Mrs. Blandings"
01-18-1913 - Danny Kaye - Brooklyn, NY - d. 3-3-1987
comedian: "Danny Kaye Show"
01-18-1915 - Bob Mosher - d. 12-xx-1972
writer: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Henry Morgan Show"; "Harry Von Zell Show"
01-18-1915 - Lesley Midgley - Salt Lake City, UT - d. 6-19-2002
producer cbs news: "The Twentieth Century"
01-18-1920 - Constance Moore - Sioux City, IA - d. 9-16-2005
singer, actress: Gloria Dean "Hollywood Mystery Time"
January 18th deaths
01-14-1891 - Maurice Black - Queens, NY - d. 1-18-1938
tuba: "The Clicquot Club Eskimos"
01-27-1904 - Frankie Marvin - Butler, Indian Territory, Oklahoma - d.
1-18-1985
actor: "Gene Autry's Melody Rance"
02-23-1925 - Niels Robinson - d. 1-18-1994
actor: "Coast-to-Coast on a Bus"
03-13-1911 - James T. Quirk - d. 1-18-1969
announcer, station program director Philadelphia, PA
03-31-1918 - Charles Russell - New York, NY - d. 1-18-1985
actor: Johnny Dollar "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar"
04-04-1894 - Ed East - New York, NY - d. 1-18-1952
comedian: Gwendolyn "Quality Twins"; "Sisters of the Skillet"
04-07-1895 - Bert Wheeler - Paterson, NJ - d. 1-18-1968
comedian: "Frank Sinatra Show"; "New Old Gold Show"
05-07-1905 - George E. Stoll - Minneapolis, MN - d. 1-18-1985
orchestra: "Jack Oakie's College"; "Bing Crosby Show"; "Eddie Cantor
Show"
06-12-1890 - Junius Matthews - Chicago, IL - d. 1-18-1978
actor: Grandpa Eph "David Harum"; Ling Wee "Gasoline Alley"
06-25-1893 - Charlotte Greenwood - South Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-18-1978
comedienne: "Life with Charlotte Greenwood"; "Charlotte Greenwood Show"
07-04-1911 - Dwight Hauser - Idaho - d. 1-18-1969
producer, director: "Defense Attorney"; "I Fly Anything"; "Man from
Homicide"
07-09-1901 - Jester Hairston - Belews, NC - d. 1-18-2000
calypso singer: King Moses "Bold Venture"
07-16-1880 - Kathleen Norris - San Francisco, CA - d. 1-18-1966
writer: "By Kathleen Norris"; "Bright Horizon"
10-30-1918 - Joan Banks - New York, NY - d. 1-18-1998
actress: Arline Harrison Manning, "Portia Faces Life"; Carlotta
Lagorro Armour, "Today's Children"
11-20-1916 - Virginia Verrill - Santa Monica, CA - d. 1-18-1999
blues singer: "The Jack Haley Show"; "Show Boat"; "Uncle Walter's
Doghouse"
11-21-1902 - Arthur Schutt - Reading, CA - d. 1-18-1965
pianist: "The Ipana Troubadors"
11-30-1926 - Dick Crenna - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-18-2003
actor: Oogie Pringle, "A Date with Judy"; "Walter Denton, "Our Miss
Brooks"
12-27-1879 - Sidney Greenstreet - Sandwich, England - d. 1-18-1954
actor: Nero Wolfe "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; "Hollywood Star Preview"
12-30-1912 - Nancy Coleman - Everett, WA - d. 1-18-2000
actress: Alice Hughes "Young Dr. Malone"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:54:13 -0500
From: <whhsa@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Stuff no longer produced or available
Dear Folks;
Peace.
Years ago you could order Ralston cereal for "Straight Shooters" on-line,
but you had to get half-a-case! However, this was discontinued. The cereal
has been separated from the pet food and maybe own entirely by a separate
firm, but you can once again order on-line at:
[removed]
this wonderful site has many hard-to-find candies, etc.
I know that Vermont Stores and others sell some of the remembered soaps,
shampoos, etc.
You can still buy the "Original" Shredded Wheat. Manufactured by Post, not
NABISCO, with the same great flavor!
Be on the look out for the definitive book on Straight Arrow coming soon!
Manituwah,
Bill
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:54:29 -0500
From: "Jed Dolnick" <jdolnick@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Frederick Ziv
The following link is for a very interesting article about Ziv:
[removed].
Among other programs, he was responsible for one of my favorites, "Highway
Patrol" with Broderick Crawford as Lt. Dan Matthews ("10-4" "2150-Bye").
Stories abound that Crawford was drunk most of the time, but I don't know if
it's true. I've read that he was a nice guy despite his gruff persona.
I believe Ziv also brought us "Whirlybirds" (with Chuck & PT), another
childhood favorite. Another show was "Harbourmaster" with Barry Sullivan.
I've never seen the show, and always wondered how they made an exciting
program out of a harbourmaster's duties; probably took Highway Patrol
scripts and adapted them for the ocean.
But [removed] this isn't a TV group.
Jed
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:39:48 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: F. W. Ziv
On 1/17/06 9:40 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
Last night I was doing some research on the programs I've accumulated
in my collection over the past 20+ years. Many of them listed Frederick Ziv
among the information I found. Was this man an actor, producer, director,
or what?
Frederick W. Ziv was a producer who became a distributor. He was a
Cincinnati-based advertising man who had worked as a program producer at
station WLW during the mid-thirties, and began distributing transcription
programs in 1937. He was one of many smalltime operators in this field
until the mid-forties, when he made his big score by securing national
distribution rights to off-network reruns of the long-running "Easy Aces"
series.
During the post-war era, Ziv specialized in the production of low-budget
formula adventure and mystery programs, which required relatively litte
overhead but which could bring in big money from small and mid-market
stations looking for network-quality local features, and by the end of
the forties Ziv was the top company in the syndication business. He also
moved into first-run television syndication, and finally production of
series for network TV. This phase of activity attracted the attention of
United Artists, which bought out the Ziv company in 1960.
There are a couple of common misconceptions about Ziv. Some writers have
credited him as being the originator of syndication -- which he most
assuredly was not, coming to the business nearly a decade after Correll
and Gosden and the Chicago Daily News distributed the first recorded
program. The second is that his company name should be written in all
caps (ZIV), as though it were an acronym. It isn't, and it shouldn't.
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:40:22 -0500
From: ".dan." <ddunfee@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR sponsors still with us
Meanwhile, a line of less-expensive vitamins and minerals have been on the
market for a number of years, labeled "Sundown." The fine print on the
packages state that they're marketed by Rexall-Sundown.
The brand name is now owned by walmart and appears on some of their store
otc products.
XB
IC|XC
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:40:31 -0500
From: Brian Johnson <chyronop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sponsorships
I was amazed the other day to find a can of Johnson's
Paste Wax on the shelves of the local Sears Hardware
store. But, if you go to the SCJohnson website you
find they sell it direct under "Hard to Find" of the
product section.
Oxydol is still with us, just not as a P&G product.
Under the history section of their web site they
proclaim Oxydol as the product "that put the 'soap' in
soap opera."
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:48:13 -0500
From: Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: looking for two Lux episodes
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For a project, I'm looking for two Lux Radio Theater episodes. Since I need
them quickly, I'm hoping that someone can send mp3 files of them.
They are the adaptions of Alice In Wonderland and Peter Pan. Sorry, I do
not have exact dates with me right now.
Please contact me if you can help.
Rodney
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:48:45 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Scrapping the Masters
On 1/18/06 11:00 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I wonder if any mothers or stampers were ever retained for syndicated
radio programs for any length of time, or if they were destroyed since
it was unlikely that a program would ever be needed again. (Plus, a
pressing plant could warehouse only so much material. What would they
do with all the metal parts?)
Most of the 1928-29 A&A stampers were scrapped by 1935, when the
Paramount pressing plant in Grafton, Wisconsin -- which pressed the discs
for Marsh Laboratories -- was shut down. I'm not sure what happened to
the metals for the A&A pressings done by Brunswick during the final four
months of the syndicated run, but presumably they met a similar fate when
Brunswick-Balke-Collender was bought out by Warner Brothers in 1930.
Literally tons of metal parts for transcription discs made for one-time
airplay at various pressing plants around the country were junked in the
early 1940s as a result of scrap metal drives. RCA Victor did a major
purge of unneeded 16-inch metal parts around 1941, including both radio
program material and Vitaphone movie soundtrack discs, and I've seen a
copy of a bill-of-sale from that era indicating that they were getting
about ten cents a pound in scrap value.
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:49:32 -0500
From: Brianhluk@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re George Putnam and other family history
details
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Anyone looking for such details as to where people where born, married,
died, etc, may I suggest that a search on family history and geneaology
websites.
You don't have to go on pay sites for details, either. Such as the IGS (or
IGI) website at _[removed]_ ([removed]) is free.
I just brought the following info from the US 1880 Census on it as an
example (and before any one asks, no, I don't know if it is the correct
person I
was looking for!):
Carlton E Morse
Male
Birth Year <1879>
Birthplace ME
Age 1
Occupation
Marital Status S <Single>
Race W <White>
Head of Household Warren Morse
Relation to Head Son
Father's Birthplace ME
Mother's Birthplace ME
Census Place Warren, Knox, Maine
Family History Library Film 1254483
NA Film Number T9-0483
Page Number 335C
>From the above people could even find out who else was in the house at the
time of the census, their ages and occupation (father was 35 and worked in a
shoe shop; mother, Fannie M Morse was 28 and kept house) and even get a copy
of the original census page. From that it is relatively easy to get a copy
of
the person's birth [removed]
Hope this might be of interest to various researchers here.
Sincerely,
Brian Longstaff
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:58:03 -0500
From: "Stuart Lubin" <StuartLubin@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: George Putnam(s)
Jim Cox wrote:
I've amassed reams of material on one or more radio
announcers who went by the name George Putnam.
Since both were from Minnesota, I will refer to each by including his middle
name. In NY, George Carlson Putnam announced
"Lorenzo Jones" and "Portia Faces Life". He later came out from NY to Los
Angeles to do local TV news on the CBS affiliate, (then called KNXT, now
KCBS). He had to changehis name because of the rules. (Are those rules
from AFTRA?) This is where I start to be uncertain in my memory. I believe
he changed his name to George Arthur. I hope that any error here will be
corrected by my good friend, Bobb Lynes, who is an expert on early, as well
as later, television
George Frederick Putnam was an extremely successful newscaster on a
local TV station here. After leaving TV, he returned to radio and, for many
years was a host of call-in shows. In his early days in radio, he started
as a staff announcer at NBC.
Now may be a good time to mention that "Our Gal Sunday" and "Front Page
Farrell" announcer, Ed Fleming, also came to Los Angeles and worked for the
same TV station on local news broadcasts.
Stuart
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:54:23 -0500
From: Jeff Weaver <jweaver@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Guiding Light
I, like many, often enjoy listening to soaps from the OTR days. I was
quite surprised by how modern some of the topics seem. The same plot
lines occur even today. But I thought that I would post for those
interested that Guiding Light is back as a podcast. The CBS show now
offers a podcast of that day's episode with changes made for audio.
It is as if radio is back. I have heard two of the shows now and It
seems to be a great concept. Their idea is to attract the ipod crowd
over to the TV show.
Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:29:32 -0500
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Frederic (no k) Ziv
Was this man an actor, producer, director,
or what? I'm having quite a time trying to discover what this man had
in
common with all of these OTR programs. Could someone please help?
Kenneth Clarke
Ziv was primarily a radio producer. In addition to the syndication of
"The Korn Kobblers", the Frederic W. Ziv Company (headquartered at 1529
Madison Road, Cincinnati, OH) marketed dozens of radio shows in its
syndication business, some of which it produced, while others were
transcriptions of series done live by other studios. Among the more
well known programs syndicated by Ziv were: Philo Vance, Lightning
Jim, Easy Aces, Boston Blackie, and the Wayne King Show. Some of their
others were: Favorite Story (narrated by Ronald Colman), The Kenny
Baker Show, Songs of Good Cheer, Barry Wood Show (with Margaret
Whiting), The Old Corral, and Pleasure Parade (musical variety show.)
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:36:59 -0500
From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ipana/Rising Sun
We used Ipana during the war (WWII for you young folks) and I remember the
colors on the tube
as having yellow background with radiating red stripes ala Nipponese
battle flag. I wonder if this
adversely affected their sales after 7 December 1941. I looked for a
picture of that packaging and
finally found a monochromatic ad from 1940 that showed the Battle Flag
type tube.
[removed]
Oh yes, I remember the Bucky Beaver commercials on radio which can also
be found via Google.
Ed Kindred
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:06:44 -0500
From: "Archie YKnow" <y_know_archie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Frederick Ziv
Was this man an actor, producer, director,
or what? I'm having quite a time trying to discover what this man had in
common with all of these OTR programs. Could someone please help?
Besides the Ziv syndication of radio shows, they also syndicated TV. I just
watched an epiode of Science Fiction Theater with Trueman Bradley as host
from the mid 1950s. The Ziv syndiaction logo was promiently placed.
Archie
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:07:46 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Pepsodent and Lever
On 1/18/06 11:00 AM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
I can't remember whether Pepsodent was originally a P-G or Levers brand
It was neither. It was put out by The Pepsodent Co. of Chicago.
The Pepsodent Company became a subsidiary of Lever Brothers in 1942, when
Albert Lasker decided to liquidate all of his business holdings and
devote the rest of his life to philanthropy. (He also dissolved the Lord
and Thomas agency, long associated with Pepsodent, and allowed three of
his top lieutenants to reorganize the firm as Foote, Cone and Belding.
Years later, Freeman F. Gosden Jr. would serve as a division president
for this firm.)
Unilever, the successor to Lever Bros, sold the North American rights to
Pepsodent to the Church and Dwight Company (makers of Arm and Hammer
baking soda) in 2003, but retains control of the brand in other parts of
the world.
Elizabeth
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:31:53 -0500
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Address Request
Perhaps I am using an out-dated mailing or periodical, but I just had an
envelope returned and I thought the address was still active.
National OTR Enthusiasts
Rt. 1, Box 253
Alacha, FL 32615
Is this club now closed or does anyone know if there is a new address?
Martin
mmargrajr@[removed]
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:12:15 -0500
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A Couple More Pepsodent Comments
I don't remember toothpaste being in short supply after The War, but that
might have been a regional thing that didn't affect Chicago. Also, my parents
owned a 'candy store,' something like the modern convenience store, and we
sold the stuff. I imagine that even if it were in short supply, we'd be
getting at least a few of one brand or another and I wouldn't notice the
shortage.
I remember the Bob Hope Show and mentions of "Irium," and when I actually
tried to read the package, it said "Perium." That was in the late forties,
and I think nobody heard the 'p' sound over the radio, because in the early
fifties, I believe I remember it saying "Irium."
While Chesborough-Ponds is manufacturing the stuff today, with a different
flavor (ugh), they don't advertise it. I think that's why a tube can be
purchased for a buck, and sometimes less at Wal-mart, instead of the two or
three dollars that are charged for the advertised brands. There are at least
three varieties now, 'original,' 'tarter control (or removal), and maybe
'tooth whitening.' Out here (CA) and in a few other states, the stuff is
available at the "99 Cents Only" chain and Wal-mart, that I know of.
Regarding the pepsin, from which Pepsodent derives its name, so does
Pepsi-Cola. I remember back in the forties and fifties recognizing the pepsin
taste, but I don't notice it anymore today.
Thanx,
B. Ray
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:12:27 -0500
From: seandd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny in the News
Filmmaker Albert Brooks salutes Jack Benny as an influence in this interview.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
[removed]
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:13:39 -0500
From: Cecil <cecil@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Ipana toothpaste
You can still buy Ipana toothpast, three tubes for $.[removed], at
[removed] They still carry several products you can't
find on store shelves anymore.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:36:30 -0500
From: [removed]@[removed] (Marjorie M. Nutt)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Milton Berle
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Does anyone know the name of Milton Berle's daughter? I have a photo of
my father (James Melton) and me with Uncle Miltie and what's her name.
Would love to be able to identify her, and perhaps even contact her if
anyone knows how I might do that.
Thanks!
Margo Melton Nutt
Thetford, VT
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