Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #483
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 12/12/2002 9:03 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 483
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Rita and Vinton                   [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Re: Empire Of The Air                 [ StevenL751@[removed] ]
  Re: recording audio from movies       [ Greg Przywara <gmprzywara@students. ]
  What's a Capehart                     [ "Robert J. McKee" <mckee137@mindspr ]
  Re: Answering Martin                  [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  Re: Vinton Hayworth & Rita            [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:20:08 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Rita and Vinton

On 12/10/02 11:35 PM OldRadio Mailing Lists wrote:

I never knew Rita Hayworth to be overtly political as, say, her fellow
aforementioned colleagues in "Americans for the First  Amendment" [unless one
considers that she was once married to Orson Welles, who was quite political
in the 1930s]. But aren't the Hayworths, Rita and Vinton, related  somehow?

Rita Hayworth's real name was Margarita Cansino, and "Hayworth" was
simply a stage name -- so I don't think they were related.

Vinton Hayworth, by the way, has a very interesting career credit that is
rarely mentioned (and which has nothing to do with his politics) -- he
was for a time the program director for the second television station in
Chicago. This was W9XAP, opened by U. A. Sanabria's "United States
Television Company" in August 1930. Operating from the Chicago Daily News
Building, as a companion station to WMAQ, W9XAP used Sanabria's variation
of the Baird-Jenkins mechanical scanning process, and was on the air
regularly until March 1933.

Hayworth's involvement with the station actually pre-dated his first
major radio role (Jack Arnold, the male lead on "Myrt and Marge") by
nearly a year, and in addition to administrative duties, Hayworth
frequently appeared on camera -- often appearing with other WMAQ
staffers, including Bill Hay of "Amos 'n' Andy," who served as chief
announcer for W9XAP, and Ireene Wicker, "The Singing Lady," who appeared
opposite Hayworth in numerous televised dramatic presentations.  Hayworth
had a long television career in the 1950s and 1960s, but few realize just
how far back he went.

Elizabeth

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:46:58 -0500
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Empire Of The Air

In a message dated 12/11/2002 11:26:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, OldRadio
Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed]; writes:

You can buy it from [removed] in both VHS & DVD versions. A >book is also
[removed]

And let's not forget about the excellent full-cast audio drama that was
produced by the Firesign Theatre's David Ossman, based on the same book.
While the TV version takes a documentary approach, the audio version actually
dramatizes the story of "The Men Who Made Radio".  The cast of 90 features
(among others) Edward Asner, Bonnie Bedelia, John Astin, Steve Allen, David
Ogden Stiers, and Norman Corwin.  I highly recommend this 90-minute show, in
my opinion it's both more interesting and more entertaining than the TV
version.  It's available online from [removed], search for
"Empire".

Steve Lewis

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:38:28 -0500
From: Greg Przywara <gmprzywara@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: recording audio from movies

That reminds me of something I've been doing since I was about 8. Whenever
we were about to go on vacation, I would set up a tape recorder in front of
the television and record the audio off of my favorite movies. I think that
indirectly led to my interest in OTR which surfaced during my sophomore
year of high school. I still record the audio off of Jerry Lewis movies for
my youngest sister using the more sophisticated method of connecting the
audio out from VCR to the audio in on the stereo. Makes a great,
inexpensive gift!

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:38:34 -0500
From: "Robert  J.  McKee" <mckee137@[removed];
To: "Old Radio List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  What's a Capehart
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Martin asks:

What the heck is a Capehart?  was it a turntable
for 78 rpm or LP records in the forties?

My father only sold Zenith, Crosely in his radio & appliance
store but there were always Philco, Silvertone, Capehart and
a zillion other brands in his shot for repairs.  It is just another
brand name from the past that may or may not still be around.
Bob

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:39:55 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Answering Martin

Among some of the questions my buddy martin Grams asked in a recent posting
was.

Any bright light bulbs know the answers to any of these?

A radio actor once lived in Dougleston, Rhode Island, but after checking a
few maps, can't find such a city.  Was there really such a city during the
forties?

It's quite possible that someone got that actors address only partially
right, Martin.

I offer the following. Could it have been "Long Island" instead of "Rhode
Island".

I am very familiar with that upper middle class community on the Eastern
most fringe of Queens County, (a suburb of NYC.) It was Dougleston, Long
Island, and I know for a fact that quite a few radio actors lived out that
way to escape life in the city. That community was about a 15 minute drive
from where I lived in Whitestone, [removed]

It was not an easy commute for them, so maybe they could afford to drive
into the City when they had jobs. The "parkway" system ran right past
Dougleston. Otherwise, one had to take an "elevated" subway system to the
end of that particular line serving Queens County, which terminated in
Flushing, Queens. (Where quite a few other NY radio Actors lived. Among
them, my friend Ross Martin.) But then, a bus ride of perhaps a half hour
more was required to reach Dougleston. Quite possible, they drove their car
to Flushing, and hopped on the train there. [removed] if I'm not mistaken, I
think the Long Island Railroad (not connected the the NY Subway system) also
went through or near the Dougleston Community.

Small world tid bit. My Uncle Charlie owned a parking garage in Flushing,
that filled up daily with many "end of the line" subway commuters bound for
NYC.

Me, I got to park there free when I went into the city to work. :)

How's that Martin? More than you could ever possibly want to know about
Dougleston and it's OTR inhabitants. Please don't ask me who they were were.
I just remember riding home on the queens subway line with many who were in
the business.

Off topic, but the same thread. I even had a relative who lived in
Dougleston (The more affluent side of the family), and someone else that I
mention in my book (a lady friend) also lived there at one time. [removed] Did
your question bring back a flood of memories.

Do I qualify a being a "bright Lightbulb" or just "dim"

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Jughead

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:41:03 -0500
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Vinton Hayworth & Rita

Derek Tague asks;

But aren't the Hayworths, Rita and Vinton, related  somehow?

Absolutely correct, Derek. Although some might question that relationship,
since Rita was the daughter of a Latin Dance team and Vinton has a long
"American" pedigree.

Following Vinton's and my reunion (after a great many years had passed since
we worked together on the "Archie" program), and shortly before his death,
Vinton sent me a fascinating story (history) about his ancestry, of which he
was extremely proud. In Particular, One Sergeant-Major Patrick O'Hare, his
maternal Grandfather, who distinguished himself with service in the "2nd
[removed] Dragoons" in early Indian Campaign's on the frontier during the late
1850's. He was ultimately to also serve in the Union Army during the Civil
War, in such battles as Flint Hill, Yorktown, Williamsburg, Savage Station,
Catlett's Station, Brandy station, the Seven Days Fight, and at Gettysburg.

As a young child, Vinton had the opportunity to spend many hours with his
Grandfather, who he revered and idolized. He would listen by the hour to the
tales his Grandfather would tell. And his grandfather took him to many of
this Country's historical sites, instilling in him an appreciation for the
sacrifices that many had made to build this Nation.  (Sorry for getting
briefly away from Derek's question, but I bring this up only to explain why
Vinton grew up with an intense pride in this country's military, and his
sense of unbridled Patriotism.

OKay, that said, here's Vinton's family tree.

One Sgt. Patrick O'Hare married an Irish lass (what else) named Bridget
Hennessey.

They had 7 kids. 4 boys, 3 girls. (I'll spare you the full rundown.) One of
their daughters (Margaret) married a bloke named Allynn D. Hayworth.

That couple then had 5 children. 2 boys, 3 girls. (Vinton being one of the
boys.) Eventually, one of Vinton's sisters, "Volga", married Eduardo
Cansino.

Volga and Eduardo had 3 kids. 2 boys and a girl named Margarita.

Guess who changed her name from Margarita, shortened it to "Rita" and used
her mother's maiden name. :) Vinton's niece of course.

The story that Vinton sent me (primarily, reflections about his Grandfather)
makes incredible reading. It's 7 tight typewritten pages in length. Maybe,
if I ever have the time, I will try and contact Vinton's Heirs and see they
will grant me permission to reproduce it. I mean, we are talking major
historical recollections from Sgt. Major Patrick O'Hare, as told to my
friend Vinton.

And now you [removed] rest of the story. (Is that phrase copyrighted?) :)

Yikes! After re-reading Vinton's memoirs for the purpose of getting my facts
straight for this posting, I just realized what a great movie could be made
about Sgt. Major O'Hare. Haley Joel Osment (spelling?) could play young
Vinton. Where is Victor McGlaughin (spelling?) when I need him?

Hal(Harlan)Stone
Whose sainted mothers maiden name was Sullivan. :) Another Mick! :)

Regards

Hal(Harlan)Stone

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