Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #349
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 11/12/2005 4:18 PM
To: [removed]@[removed]

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 349
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  lone ranger                           [ Dave Parker <dave@[removed] ]
  20 Questions Game                     [ Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@erols ]
  question?                             [ knight555@[removed] ]
  Re: Sales by Industry                 [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
  Sponsorship                           [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@j ]
  Re: radio sponsors                    [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
  Re: "And Heeeere's the Cinnamon Bear  [ "David Kindred" <david@[removed] ]
  Advertisers                           [ "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  "Huttons?"                            [ Booksteve@[removed] ]
  re: Who WAS that bearded man?         [ "Mark E. Higgins" <paul_frees_fan@a ]
  Hutton's stores                       [ "karl tiedemann" <karltiedemann@hot ]
  Bill Oddie                            [ "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed]; ]
  Mystery Time                          [ "Morris Joseph" <mjoseph55@hotmail. ]
  Barbara Hutton                        [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
  Who played Lee Jones on Dragnet?      [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
  11-12 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:06:10 -0500
From: Dave Parker <dave@[removed];
To: OLD TIME RADIO <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  lone ranger

Hi Lone Ranger fans.  Recently at the FOTR CONVENTION in Newark - a
lot of people asked me how they could get a copy of my [removed],
dissertation entitled "A Descriptive Analysis of the Lone Ranger as a
Form of Popular Art".  I got the degree at Northwestern in
[removed] (no matter how you calculate it) was 50 YEARS AGO.

BELIEVE ME --when I wrote it I never imagined that 450 page study
would ever interest anyone beyond a few graduate students.  But here
it is A LOT LATER and OTR fans are asking about it.  So --here's the
deal

I will happily send you a copy for $[removed] plus handling and mailing
(whatever that may be).Format will be the printed page eight and a
half by six and a half.

My name is Dave Parker - my address is 27763 Altamont Circle in Los
Altos Hill, CA 94022.  My Phone is (650) 948-7828.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:06:51 -0500
From: Jack & Cathy French <otrpiano@[removed];
To: OTRBB <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  20 Questions Game

Surely most of us remember Mutual's "Twenty Questions" which Ronson
sponsored for most of its 1946-54 run. A panel, mostly family members,
started with "Animal, vegetable, or mineral" and then solved the word
mystery with 20 (or less) yes-or-no questions. Only 16 shows have
survived in audio form.

However, now you can play this game electronically, with a computer
taking the part of panelists Florence, Herb, Fred, and Bobby.

The current Hammacher Schlemmer catalog offers a "Mind-Reading
Electronic Question Game" and its description shows it to be based on
that puzzle solving radio show. To wit:  "With uncanny precision, this
device guesses what you're thinking of after a round of 20 questions.
After you answer 20 yes-and-no questions, the  instrument will guess
your object. If not correct, you win."

The thing looks like a blue Star Wars helmet and retails for 45 bucks.
While it never mentions the radio series that inspired it, this was
probably done to avoid any copyright infringement. And this computer
device is slightly at a disadvantage since it does not start with
"animal, vegetable, or mineral."

Usual disclaimers [removed]

Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:31:19 -0500
From: knight555@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  question?

Depending on how old you are, this is otr LOL.  My son is a big fan
of the Star Wars shows that were performed , i think, by NPR sometime
after the first 3 movies came out.  He asks if the newer stories have
been performed by anybody in a similar manner.   He is also a big fan
of Hercule Poirot , and asks if those stories were ever performed for radio?
thank you as always, to those much more knowledgable than i.
MJ

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:00:25 -0500
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Sales by Industry

On 11/11/05 3:19 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:

My answer would be
cigarette manufactures (tobacco) sponsored the most OTR programs.  Then
cereal makers for all of the kids shows, followed by automobile
advertising, food and bread companies, finally those Little Liver Pills
and other pharmaceuticals.  How did I do?

Here's a breakdown of combined advertising revenue for NBC and CBS
classified by industry for calendar year 1938, compiled by the Variety
Radio Directory for 1939-40:

1. Foods/Beverages ----------$21,156,602
2. Drugs/Toiletries -------- $18,459,526
3. Tobacco Products --------- $8,256,260
4. Soaps/Household Products - $7,568,395
5. Automotive --------------- $3,903,597
6. Petroleum Products ------- $2,977,443

Those six industries covered [removed] percent of NBC/CBS time sales for 1938.

Elizabeth

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:52:28 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr" <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sponsorship

Russ Butler, speaking of OTR sponsors, notes,

Then cereal makers for all of the kids shows,

Well, Little Orphan Annie was sponsored by Ovaltine (as was Captain
Midnight, which wasn't just a kid show, and which was sponsored by Skelly
Oil prior to Ovaltine).  Sky King was sponsored by Derby Peter Pan Peanut
butter.  Smilin' Ed McDonnell was sponsored by Buster Brown Shoes.  And
for a couple of years, Hop Harrigan was sponsored by *nobody*.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:52:37 -0500
From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: radio sponsors

Soap has to be included in the list somewhere, not only because of
the soap operas, but also because of Amos 'N' Andy (Rinso) and Lux Radio
Theater.

Al Girard

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:52:54 -0500
From: "David Kindred" <david@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: "And Heeeere's the Cinnamon Bear!"

If you haven't heard the "Cinnamon Bear" before, make sure you heed
Dennis Crow's advice, and start listening. My boys (10, 9, 7) are very
excited about the forthcoming start of the show. I think this will be
the 4th year they've heard it. It is solely due to Dennis' promotion of
the series that I finally got a copy of it, and now I'm regretting not
having started earlier. Dennis, I'm very grateful. THANK YOU!

The show is not just for kids; everyone will love it. Make sure you get
a copy, and listen with the rest of us, one show a night, until
Christmas. I'm looking forward to it!

--David

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:53:58 -0500
From: "Jim Cox" <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Advertisers

We read in this forum:

Kenneth Clark asks about radio sponsorships. My answer would be
cigarette manufactures (tobacco) sponsored the most OTR programs.  Then
cereal makers for all of the kids shows, followed by automobile
advertising, food and bread companies, finally those Little Liver Pills
and other pharmaceuticals.  How did I do?

Well, if you really wanna know ... did ya ever hear of "cigarette operas,"
"cereal operas," "automobile operas," "food and bread operas," or
"pharmaceutical operas"?  I really don't think so!

Jim Cox

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:09:13 -0500
From: Booksteve@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  "Huttons?"
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George Tirebiter wrote:

Was there a Woolworth like chain of stores named
Hutton's?  I've never heardof such a chain, but that seems to be the
only way the joke would make sense."

I'm sure there will be a lot of responses  to this but I'm presuming, not
having heard the show he described, that Durante  was referring to BARBARA,
not
BETTY, Hutton. Betty was the great madcap  comedienne. Barbara Hutton was the
Paris Hilton of her day, heiress to the  Woolworth fortune (as well as, at one
time, married to Cary Grant.). She was  parodied quite a bit on radio for a
time but only later did her sad--tragic in  fact--true story come out. Farrah
Fawcett played Barbara in a TV movie entitled  POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL.

For more pop culture minutiae, check out _Booksteve's Library_
[removed]

Steven Thompson

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:00:20 -0500
From: "Mark E. Higgins" <paul_frees_fan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Who WAS that bearded man?

    I have to echo Craig's praise of Mike Leannah.  As a friend and
fellow member of the Milwaukee Area Radio Enthusiasts, I have
experienced Mike's talent and sense of humor first hand, and was present
at the first performance of the Lone Ranger script by our own Nightmare
Players.  The script is hilarious, and does combine the best of parody
and tribute.  And - Mike is the nicest guy in the world.  I look forward
to his next work, and hope to be able to play a part in it (I have since
joined the Players).  Keep up the good work.

Mark

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:00:33 -0500
From: "karl tiedemann" <karltiedemann@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hutton's stores

Barbara Hutton was the Woolworth's heiress, so presumably the gag here was
that Jimmy Durante mixing Barbara up with Betty.

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:05:48 -0500
From: "Mike Hobart" <zines50@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bill Oddie

I suppose I should have mentioned it at the time, but I wasn't sure how many
Goodies fans might be on an OTR [removed]

Bill Oddie wasn't able to join Tim Brooke-Taylor and Graeme Garden on this
tour of Australia, but he does appear (sort of).    He recorded some video
clips which are played on a big screen behind the stage, and there is some
well-rehearsed banter between the three of them which really makes you feel
he is taking part in the show.

At one point the video "fails" and Garden continues the routine by picking
up a (rather unflattering) Bill Oddie ventroloquist dummy and doing his
lines as well as his own  ("Then we went to the head of the [removed]"  "The
what?"  "The radio network.")

Bill has his own career nowadays as a bird watcher and I believe even has a
brand of birdseed named after him in Britain.   Now that's fame!

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:52:13 -0500
From: "Morris Joseph" <mjoseph55@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mystery Time

   I recall the series "Mystery Time" vaguely in the mid-1950's. It was
   broadcast on ABC-Radio five nights a week at 7:30PM EST and originated
   in New York.  I think it had a short run and was probably one of the
   last dramas on ABC-Radio. Each night of the week was devoted to a
   different theme. I can remember three of the five themes, namely
   "Police Blotter", "Mike Malloy, Private Eye" and "Masters of
   Mystery".  Does anyone remember the other two themes and the duration
   of this series?

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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:52:54 -0500
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Barbara Hutton

"George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed]; writes:

I was listening to the Command Performance V-J Day special last night.
There was some dialogue between Bette Davis and Jimmy Durante where he is
inviting her to come to a party he is throwing. I quote from memory:

Bette:  Will anyone I know be there?
Jimmy: Do you know Betty Hutton?
Bette: Sure, will she be there?
Jimmy:  No, but some girls from her store will be.

I imagine many will correct this, but the reference is not to Betty Hutton
but, rather, to *Barbara* Hutton - the much-married daughter of the founder
of the Woolworth chain of variety stores, Frank W. Woolworth. Thus, the
"girls from her store" would be those who worked the five-and-dime counter
at Woolworth stores.

You can read more about the extremely sad life of Barbara Hutton at
[removed].

Harlan Zinck
First Generation Radio Archives
[removed]

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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:40:54 -0500
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Who played Lee Jones on Dragnet?

Hello, I can't find the actor's name who played Lee Jones on Dragnet. He
seems to have a Boston accent or thereabouts. I know there's a book that
would probably give the answer, but until the Library for the Blind puts it
in braille or talking book, which is doubtful, I ask here. For some reason,
Dragnet never gave the credits at all or all of them.
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:41:18 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-12 births/deaths

November 12th births

11-12-1884 - Griff Barnett - Blue Ridge, TX - d. 1-12-1958
actor: Rexall Family Druggist "Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show"
11-12-1903 - Jack Oakie - Sedalia, MO - d. 1-23-1978
comedian: "Jack Oakie's College"
11-12-1911 - Claudia Morgan - Brooklyn, NY - d. 9-17-1974
actress: Carolyn Allen Walker Kramer Nelson MacDonald; "Right to Happiness"
11-12-1911 - Clay Bryant - Madison Heights, VA - d. 4-9-1999
baseball analyst: "Baseball with Clay Bryant"
11-12-1914 - Charles Marion - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-29-1980
writer: "The Eddie Cantor Show"
11-12-1917 - Henry Jerome - New York, NY
bandleader: "Dinner at the Green Room"
11-12-1917 - Jo Stafford - Coalinga, CA
singer: "Tommy Dorsey Show"; "Ford Show"; "Chesterfield Supper Club"
11-12-1920 - Richard Quine - Detroit, MI - d. 6-10-1989
actor: "Doctor Christian"; "Mayor of the Town"; "Family Theatre"
11-12-1922 - Kim Hunter - Detroit, MI - d. 9-11-2002
actress: "Medicine USA"; "Philco Radio Playhouse"; "CBS Mystery Theatre"
11-12-1929 - Grace Kelly - Philadelphia, PA - d. 9-14-1982
actress: "Family Theatre"; "Bob Hope Show"

November 12th deaths

02-14-1884 - Grace Valentine - Springfield, OH - d. 11-12-1964
actress: Minnie Grady "Stella Dallas"
04-30-1912 - Eve Arden - Mill Valley, CA - d. 11-12-1990
actress: Connie Brooks "Our Miss Brooks"; Libby Collins "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-20-1911 - Vet Boswell - Birmingham, AL - d. 11-12-1988
singer: (The Boswell Sisters) "The Boswell Sisters"; "Woodbury Soap Show"
05-30-1917 - Peter Leeds - Bayonne, NJ - d. 11-12-1996
actor: Eugor "Rogue's Gallery"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Stan Freberg Show"
06-01-1888 - Louis Mason - Danville, KY - d. 11-12-1959
actor: Clem Betts "Moonshine and Honeysuckle"
06-23-1917 - Norman Rose - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-12-2004
narrator: "Dimension X"
07-07-1891 - David Ross - New York, NY - d. 11-12-1975
actor: Bob "Mary and Bob"
07-07-1909 - Eddie Mayehoff - Baltimore, MD - d. 11-12-1992
actor: Waldo Greentree/Nick Scott "Against the Storm"
07-14-1931 - Robert Stephens - Bristol, England - d. 11-12-1995
actor: Aragorn "The Lord of the Rings"
07-29-1910 - Sydney Roslow - d. 11-12-2002
psychologist: "What Makes You Tick?"
08-13-1909 - Dave Willock - Chicago, IL - d. 11-12-1990
actor: Tugwell "Jack Carson Show, Sealtest Village Store"
12-03-1908 - Anna Sten - Kiev, the Ukraine - d. 11-12-1993
actress: "March of Time"; "Stagedoor Canteen"
12-07-1879 - Rudolf Friml - Prague, Bohemia - d. 11-12-1972
operetta composer: "Railroad Hour"; "Chicago Theatre of the Air"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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