Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #298
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Date: 8/1/2002 10:24 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 298
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: OTR at night                      [ Shenbarger@[removed] ]
  Superman tapes                        [ "William Strom" <stromman@[removed] ]
  WNBC, WCBS, WABC                      [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  Re: It Could Be You-WSP Version       [ Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; ]
  otr baseball                          [ michael berger <intercom1@attglobal ]
  First Transatlantic Broadcast         [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed] ]
  The Lone Ranger-Lost Episodes         [ "TIM LONES" <tallones@[removed]; ]
  AUSTRALIAN OTR                        [ "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed]. ]
  mp3 players                           [ "Larry Houghton" <lhoughton@cmsinte ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  OTR sleeping pill                     [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  10" transcriptions                    [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
  Re: Yankee fans                       [ hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed]; ]
  Old TV Shows                          [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 01:03:10 -0400
From: Shenbarger@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: OTR at night

In a message dated 7/31/2002 10:36:57 AM Central Daylight Time, Chris Holm
writes:

I do the same thing.  (Without the walkman, I just use a standard cassette
 player)  The only problem is that I usually end up falling asleep about 10-
15
 mins into the show.  The next night I have to rewind to the spot I last
 remember hearing.

I began listening to OTR and modern mystery drama tapes about a dozen years
ago to help me combat a hearing problem with constant low level ringing.
Nothing else worked. I usually woke up about half a dozen times at night and
rewound the tape. Seldom did I get more than 5-10 minutes into a story before
falling asleep again. I wore out a few tapes.

A year and a half ago I bought a Rio Volt portable and a pair of cheap
computer speakers and now listen to MP3 versions, some collections I have
bought, some I have made myself. The player runs all night--and I sleep most
of the night now. I have not listened to a tape at night since this change.

But I can't listen to Gangbusters. This has to be the loudest program ever
produced in the history of radio. I also have problems listening to programs
with extensive electronic organ interludes and I have learned to dislike the
two minute William Tell lead into the Lone Ranger.

I pays to check the capabilities of any stand alone MP3 player or DVD player
if you intend to use it with OTR. Most have limitations on the formats they
can play. The Rio Volt originally had problems, but its program can be
updated by burning a special boot CD you make from files available at the
manufacturer's support site. These updates have added things like remembering
the last place you were for the most recent ten CDs and a custom equalizer
setting, which were not originally available. They have also added Windows
Media Format and fixed many bugs. My DVD player chokes on any MP3 recorded at
less than 32 kbps and hangs up. A friend's DVD player won't play those
either, but you can skip them and play the rest of the CD. The only way to
know what it will do is take your own sample CD with you to the store and
find a way to listen to each player. The new boom boxes are promising, but so
far, none seem as versatile as the Rio Volt. It can only get better.

Don Shenbarger

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:14:14 -0400
From: "William Strom" <stromman@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Superman  tapes

I have 15 sets of Superman vs. the Atom Man brand new on tape by Radio
Spirits. I am willing to trade for other otr tapes, books , cds etc. Please
email me at Stromman@[removed]
Thanks Bill

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:14:17 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  WNBC, WCBS, WABC

Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:54:41 -0400
From: leemunsick@[removed]

A deal was then worked out wherein WJZ-ABC nee NBC became WABC-ABC. 
WJZ moved south, and the call is still seen as Baltimore TV channel 12
(CBS!)  If I recall correctly, there is no longer a radio call WJZ, not
there at least. My Baltimore OTR friends would know for sure.  What had
been WABC-CBS became WCBS, to reflect its network ties.  Are you still
with me? 
 
Actually, this happened in several stages.  First, in 1946, on the same day, WEAF became 
WNBC and WABC became WCBS.  In 1953, WJZ, WJZ-FM, and WJZ-TV in New York 
became WABC, WABC-FM, and WABC-TV.  Westinghouse, which apparently had originally 
started WJZ, was allowed to reclaim the WJZ callsign, which they put on their Baltimore TV 
station.

Sometime in the 1950s, the NBC stations became WRCA for awhile, then, around 1960 or 
so, changed back to WNBC.  I believe the NBC stations in Los Angeles became KRCA for 
awhile, too.

-- A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed] 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@[removed] Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:59:05 -0400 From: Ken Dahl <kdahl@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: Re: It Could Be You-WSP Version I too remember the program that JLF mentioned. However I recall the program as being called Could This Be You? Sgt. George Amens (spelling?) was the Washington State Trooper who was the "host" of the program. He would stop drivers for driving violations, get out of his car, and drag a cable with a mike on it, up to the violator's car and proceed to explain to the driver why he or she was stopped. Sometimes the responses of the drivers were very funny. The program as I remember, was aired on monday nights at 10:00 pm on Seattle radio station KVI, 570 on the AM dial. The programs run was from the late 40's into the 50's. I often wondered what happened to all the tapes of that program. Regards, Ken Dahl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:59:06 -0400 From: michael berger <intercom1@[removed]; To: otr <[removed]@[removed]; Subject: otr baseball There were two other live radiocasts of that game in the Polo Grounds. One by the Ol' Redhead, of course, and the other done by the Ol' Scotchman, Gordon McLendon of the Liberty Broadcasting Network. His call of the Thomson homer didn't match Hodges' but the total broadcast had all of the tension you'd expect, and he did it without a color man. The McLendon tape is the only surviving version of the entire game. Russ Hodges, incidentally, would occasionally re-play a longer recorded version of the 9th inning, including the two batters before Bobby T. came to bat, and a lot of commentary while the injured Don Mueller was taken off the field after injuring his ankle. There's also a tape in circulation of an old Costas Coast to Coast show in which he played both of the above calls, plus Red Barber's, with lots of between the scenes chatter from people who were there, including Ernie Harwell. Michael Berger who watched his first WS game on TV three days later, a wonderful Giants' victory [followed by an awful defeat in the Series, thanks to a day of rain that gave the hated Yankee staff just the recovery time they needed] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:59:26 -0400 From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed]; To: [removed]@[removed] Subject: First Transatlantic Broadcast "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@[removed]; posted:

Hello,

I remember reading that the first transatlantic broadcast happened in 1926.
It was a broadcast from station 2LO London that was relayed to the us.  Does
anyone on the list have any technical details on it, frequencies, content
etc?
Does a recording of this program exist?  Any information would be
appreciated.

I assume you mean the first broadcast of a scheduled program.
Actually Marconi broadcast the letter "S" in Morse Code across the
Atlantic from Cornwall England and was received by Marconi
personnel at Signal Hill in St. John's Newfoundland. Reginald
Fessenden made a broadcast of voice and music on Christmas eve of
1906 from Brant Rock, Massachusetts that was heard by ship
operators in the Atlantic and a later broadcast was heard in, if I
remember correctly, Scotland. The transmitting device was an
Alexanderson high-frequency alternator, as in 1906, de Forest had
just invented the Audion vacuum tube, so high power transmitting
tubes did not yet exist. Due to a limit on the rotational speed of
the high-frequency alternator, a 100,000 cycles was about the
limit that could be achieved, which would be a wavelength of 3000
meters. The current AM broadcast band starts at approximately 600
meters.
Marconi's transmission used a spark-gap transmitter which
generated radio energy across a pretty broad spectrum so not sure
of the frequency but would have been on a long wavelength. The
aerial was held aloft with a kite.
As far as the 1926 broadcast, I don't have any information on
that, perhaps someone else does.

Bill

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:00:13 -0400
From: "TIM  LONES" <tallones@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  The Lone Ranger-Lost Episodes

     I too, occasionaly watch the Lone Ranger on Starz [removed] couple of
years ago I was in a secondhand furniture/variety.(junk) store which
happened to have a lot of used Videos, some which had been even copied live
from someones TV.  I found this fascinating [removed] LONE RANGER LOST
EPISODES from Goodtimes Video (paid $[removed] for it) Almost 100 minutes of
various LR films, TV shows etc.  Included are two complete TV episodes one
from the first season one from a 1960 syndicated rebroadcast Complete with
early ABC TV Logo and all commercials.  A portion of a Lone Ranger Serial
from 1938 (spanish dubbed) A 1930's cartoon of the Lone [removed]
commercials the LR and Tonto appeared in from the 50's to the 70's Movie
Trailers, a savings bomd film. If you are a Lone Rannger Fan this would be a
neat collectors item.

Tim Lones
Canton, Ohio

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:01:37 -0400
From: "Ian Grieve" <austotr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  AUSTRALIAN OTR

In issue 295, Bill Harker asked:

Does anyone have any information on these three radio programs that were
broadcast in Australia in the 1930s and/or 1940s?

Chatterbox Corner (a children's program);
One Man's Family (evidently taking place in San Francisco but an Aussie
production);
Nicky and Tuppy (a morning show, I believe).

Bill I found the following information for you after hitting a few books.
There are more anecdotes on Nicky if you are interested and I can type them
up for you if you like.  Thanks for the Question, I never knew about Nicky
as he was broadcasting in Victoria and died before I was born, but from what
I read he made quite an impact.

Chatterbox Corner - Nicky - Cliff Nicholls Whitta, ran Chatterbox Corner in
the 1930's and 1940's on 3AW Melbourne in partnership with Fred Tupper and
then with his wife Nancy Lee.  In 1950 Nicky moved to 3UZ to do a Housewives
session and gained 73% of the listening audience.  For this show he chose
the shy young lad named Graham Kennedy as his partner.

Bill as an aside, Graham Kennedy was bigger in Television in Australia than
he was in Radio.  He was even banned from TV for quite a while after doing
'Crow" impersonations in the mid 1970's ( I remember as I was laughing very
hard at the sketch at the time).  Because of delicate ears I will only do
the beginning of the call here as I don't want to be banned from watching
TV, [removed], [removed]  I think you can guess how it ends :)  From what I
read he held Nicky in very high regard and claimed that he owed his entire
career to Nicky.  Not sure what movies starring Graham Kennedy made it to
the [removed], maybe ODD ANGRY SHOT, DON'S PARTY.  Graham compared several game
shows based on [removed] shows as well as Nightime Variety shows.  Unfortunately
he had a fall in his home about a year ago and is now in fulltime care.

The day before he died, in September 1956, Nicky signed off his programme
with the words: 'To all the sickies, keep smiling, hope you are feeling
better by Monday'.  Most of them made it, he didn't.

Another mention of Nicky I found was this note: Melbourne's legendary
'Nicky' introduced a commercial for a Northcote Butcher by playing the
lyrics of "The flies Crawled up the Window".  The sponsor, not amused,
cancelled his contract.

One Man's Family:

John Dunne visited America and brought back some new series for Australia,
one of which was One Man's Family.
John Pickard localised the American scripts by Carleton Morse and produced
the series.  One Man's family was one of the most popular serials in the
1930's with 2SM and it was also on 3XY in Melbourne.  John Dunne produced it
after Pickard's departure.  Pickard left Australia in August 1935 and
quickly made his mark in America on radio.  In 1940 a note in a SUDS
programme reported: John Pickard is now doing so well in the United States
as a radio playwright, actor and producer that he lives in a penthouse.  I
have to laugh here, I guess for the 1930's in Australia, living in a
Penthouse in America was the measurement for success.  Does anybody on the
Digest know what shows John Pickard was involved with in the [removed]

A quick flick through my books showed the following people were accredited
with acting in One Man's Family.

Nancye Stewart played Hazel.
William Mayne Lynton was in the 3XY production as well as producing it.
Douglas Kelly 3XY
Patricia Kennedy (radio Debut) 3XY
Lorna Bingham - 2SM

Another Aside, Lorna Bingham later worked for George Edwards (known on the
Digest for Dr Jeckyll and Frankenstein) on Dad and Dave (often compared to
Amos and Andy, but I can't see it, or hear it) and Search for the Golden
Boomerang.  I have several of Lorna's childrens books based on Golden
Boomerang and also another Children's radio serial David and Dawn.  Please,
if anybody has any surviving David and Dawn episodes, let me know, if only
so you can gloat.  I have several teenagers I can trade.  If you have the
audio, I have spares of the books which are picture books done in the 1930's
and are absolutely fantastic in the artwork as well as George Edwards
intro's and stories.

Unfortunately my Screensounds (Australian Archives) listings give no
indication of any of the shows you asked about in their holdings, so they
either don't have them or don't know they have them.

I would be interested in trading and a copy would be provided to
Screensounds.

Ian Grieve

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:01:59 -0400
From: "Larry Houghton" <lhoughton@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  mp3 players
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As a newcomer to OTR listening, I apparently didn't bring any baggage to my
newfound hobby in terms of recording media.  So, for me, it was straight to
mp3.  My greatest challenge was to find a player that would handle OTR mp3's
low sampling rate.  Other than the Walkman style player, most other units are
designed to play at the higher sampling rates.  One OTR vendor on eBay has
mentioned the Philips AZ1138 as being usable on OTR and eBook CDs.  The
Philips unit is a boombox style and ideal for our purposes.  It's readily
available at Kmart and sells for $100.  We bought one and have had about 98%
success in playing OTR CDs.  The small display shows track (program) number,
but no other information about the program, and it does not always follow the
play list order.  Other than that, it's a nice unit.

Our primary listening post will be the cab of our pickup truck while pulling a
travel trailer.  Since I didn't want to mortgage the truck to continually buy
batteries for the Philips unit, I bought a $13 DC-to-DC converter from Radio
Shack that plugs into the cigarette lighter, clipped the output plug and
soldered the wires to the battery compartment terminals.  So very little
investment, we have a listening system that will make traveling much more
enjoyable, and it will join us in the camper since it also runs on 120 VAC.

And my last comment, Ernie Harwell has my [removed]

Larry Houghton

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:02:12 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

   From Those Were The Days --

1937 - Mutual debuted The Goodwill Hour, with its familiar phrase, "You
have a friend and advisor in John J. Anthony."

1942 - The American Federation of Musicians went on strike. Union
president James C. Petrillo told musicians that phonograph records were
"a threat to members' jobs." As a result, musicians refused to perform
in recording sessions over the next several months. Live, musical radio
broadcasts continued, however.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:04:22 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  OTR sleeping pill

"Irene Heinstein" <IreneTH@[removed]; wrote:

I join Mike Thompson and Chris Holm in listening to OTR cassettes when I am
going to sleep. If only technology would make it possible for the
cassette player to sense when we have fallen asleep and automatically shut
off and save wear and tear on the cassettes.

You can buy electronic timers at Radio Shack (and probably other places)
that you can program for start/end times "to the minute" for the attached
appliances (like your tape player). This would allow you to go to sleep
without the worry of "stretching" the cassette tape at the end.
As for more recent players, like TVs, CD players, etc.,  I don't know of
any that "sense" when you're asleep, then shut [removed] they all have to be
manually time-set.

Herb Harrison

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:11:33 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  10" transcriptions

"This Is Your Life"
Los Angeles Vacation
33 1/3 Long Play
Music: Freddie Martin, Louis Armstrong
Voices: Bob Warren, R. W. Dibble, Bob Meigs, Walt Disney
Watch "This Is Your Life"
Wednesday on NBC-TV

Shawn, the label is only indicating the speed of the disc. Most
transcriptions used the larger 3 mil stylus. These are the ones used to
play standard 78 rpm records. The reason for this is that the groove is
larger and deeper and will wear longer. It also allows for a louder signal
to be recorded.

Usually when a 1 mil stylus is meant to be used, the record will indicate
it with the words "use microgroove stylus".

Fred
For the best in Old Time Radio Shows [removed]

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:14:02 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Yankee fans

My former friend Neil Crowley opined

We Yankee fans used to disparage Barber's dispassionate announcing as boring
<snip>
Mel clearly loved the Yankees
<snip>
but he was also quick to admire excellence in those unfortunate enough not
to be Yankees.

Have you folks detected an "arrogant" tone yet?

Dodger fans were inordinately proud when some Peewee or Stinky or some other
wee player made the All-Star team. Of course they had to grasp at such straws
since real baseball glory was all up in the Bronx.

Have you noticed how condescending Yankee fans are?

The name was "Stanky", not stinky. (Yankee fans could be incredibly
overbearing). And obviously, not too bright. :)

Shall we declare a truce Irene, and nail this supercilious individual? :)

(I apologize to those of you who find my tone patronizing. You're right.

Ah ha! He admits it. What arrogance! What hubris! What [removed] ([removed] stands for
"Baseball sycophant") :)

Good luck to your rattlesnakes, may their venom be strong.
However, until they put 27 World Series flags atop their sandlot they
haven't really beaten the Yankees. And by then the Yanks will be in triple
digits.

Wow! What a bitter pill that must have been for you Yankee fans to swallow.
Being beaten by a new franchise on your home turf. Tsk. Tsk.

Now all you posters know. One of the reasons national League baseball fans
hated the Yankee baseball organization was not the great players that they
had over the years. but that teams supercilious, arrogant, overbearing and
obnoxious fans.  :)

Excuse me, I'm going going gone to put up the bulletproof shutters. How
about that!

Yep! a great imitation of old "Mush Mouth" himself. And as far as the
bulletproof shutters go? That's no deterrent. I'll just slip a diamondback
down the chimney. :)

Loves ya, Neil. I takes pity on mentally challenged and misguided souls. :)

Hal(tell it like it is) Stone

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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:15:58 -0400
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Old TV Shows

A few months ago, I ran into someone that has hundreds if not thousands of
16mm files of old television shows. We made an arrangement and I am now in
the process of transferring all of his films to DVD.

These are very high quality 16mm prints and the resulting DVDs look just
great. So, far I just have about 12 hours of shows transferred, but the
list grows every day. If anyone is interested, email me directly for a list
of what I have.

Fred
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