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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 327
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  11-19 births/deaths                   [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
  Re: Robert Hall                       [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Robert Hall commercials; HTML         [ Robert Paine <ka3zci@[removed]; ]
  Ooops!: "Robert Hall" Replies Delete  [ "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ Jerry Haendiges <jerryhaendiges@cha ]
  Sold on Radio                         [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  Robert Hall Radio Commercial          [ James Yellen <clifengr3@[removed] ]
  Long titles                           [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
  G I Journal log                       [ DanHaefele@[removed] ]
  final Gildersleeve episode            [ Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@yahoo. ]
  Border Radio                          [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
  dick [removed]                       [ Afanofoldradio@[removed] ]
  Robert Hall                           [ Richard Olday <raolday@[removed]; ]
  ROBERT HALL COMMERCIALS               [ Durangokid@[removed] ]
  Robert Hall lyrics                    [ John Abbott <mraastro@[removed]; ]
  RE: Gildersleeve                      [ <celticone22-radiodigest@[removed]; ]
  Re: Robert Hall                       [ "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:36:38 -0500
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-19 births/deaths

November 19th births

11-19-1863 - Billy Sunday - Ames, IA - d. 11-6-1935
preacher: "Back Home Hour"
11-19-1864 - Geroge Barbier - Philadelphia, PA - d. 7-19-1945
actor: "Song of the Islands"
11-19-1883 - Ned Sparks - Guelph, Canada - d. 4-3-1957
actor: "The Grouch Club"; "The Texaco Star Theatre"
11-19-1885 - Erskine Sanford - Trinidad, CO - d. 7-7-1969
actor: "The Free Company"; "Mercury Theatre on the Air"; "Orson
Welles Theatre"
11-19-1889 - Clifton Webb - Indianapolis, IN - d. 10-13-1966
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"
11-19-1890 - Charme Allen - Dayton, OH - d. 10-4-1980
actor: Aunt Polly "David Harum"; Ma Owen "Into the Light"
11-19-1897 - Bud Green - Austria - d. 1-2-1981
lyricist: "Great Moments to Music"
11-19-1901 - Charles Webster - England - d. 2-xx-1965
actor: Dr. Kimball "Life Can Be Beautiful"; Tom Bryson "Backstage Wife"
11-19-1905 - Eleanor Audley - NYC - d. 11-25-1991
actor: Elizabeth Smith "Father Knows Best"
11-19-1905 - Tommy Dorsey - Mahanoy Plane, PA - d. 11-26-1956
bandleader: "Jack Pearl Program"; "Fame and Fortune"; "Tommy Dorsey
Show"
11-19-1913 - Blue Barron - Cleveland, OH - d. 7-16-2005
bandleader: "Blue Barron and His Orchestra"; "One Night Stand"
11-19-1918 - Spiro Agnew - Towson, MD - d. 9-17-1996
[removed] vice president: "Meet the Press"
11-19-1919 - Alan Young - North Shields, England
comedian: "Alan Young Show"; "Tony Martin Show"; "Jimmy Durante Show"
11-19-1921 - Roy Campenella - Philadelphia, PA - d. 6-26-1993
sports news: "Campy's Corner"
11-19-1922 - Dick Wesson - Maine - d. 4-25-1996
announcer: "Space Patrol"; "Hollywood Open House"
11-19-1923 - Frank Reynolds - East Chicago, IN - d. 7-20-1983
newscaster: Chicago radio
11-19-1933 - Larry King - Brooklyn, NY
talk show host: "WOR Diamond Julilee"; "Rambling with Gambling"
11-19-1936 - Dick Cavett - Gibbon, NE
talk show host: "Jean Shepherd Show"
11-19-1939 - Garrick Utley - Chicago, IL
news correspondent: "Second Sunday"
11-19-1954 - Kathleen Quinlan - Pasadena, CA
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"
11-19-1956 - Glynnis O'Connor - NYC
actor: "CBS Radio Mystery Theatre"

November 19th deaths

01-06-1903 - Francis L. Sullivan - London, England - d. 11-19-1956
actor: "[removed] Steel Hour"
03-01-1896 - George Frame Brown - d. 11-19-1979
actor: Gus "Tony and Gus"
05-01-1888 - Anna Appel - Bucharest, Romania - d. 11-19-1963
actor: Mrs. Cohen "Abie's Irish Rose"
05-30-1902 - Stepin Fetchit - Key West, FL - d. 11-19-1985
comedian: "Hollywood Hotel"
07-01-1907 - Bill Stern - Rochester, NY - d. 11-19-1971
sportscaster: "Carnival of Champions"; "Colgate Sports Newsreel"
07-02-1928 - John Timpson - Harrow, England - d. 11-19-2005
presenter: "Today"

Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:50:58 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Robert Hall

"Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];

Does anyone here remember the "Robert Hall" radio commercials?
If so --

1. Can anyone provide the complete words? All I happen to remember
   of them is:
             "Oh the values go up, up, up;
              And the prices go down, down [removed]"

2. Even better still -- is there a downloadable MP3 or WAV of it

Well, I've got one version. Or two, actually, the one to which you
refer and another jingle just for back to school, both performed by
Les Paul and Mary Ford. I don't think they did the general Robert
Hall commercials, so these may have been done, perhaps, live on their
radio show. Anyhow, the lyrics you seek are there. The two
commercials are combined into one mp3; I can split them if necessary.
Write me offline and let me know how to get them to you (I know I
could have contacted Glenn offline, too, but I thought someone might
be interested in hearing about Les Paul and Mary Ford doing the
Robert Hall jingles. Then again, maybe not.)

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:52:01 -0500
From: Robert Paine <ka3zci@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Robert Hall commercials; HTML
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Three Robert Hall commercials have been running through my mind for decades.
One I'd call generic; the second, back to school and the third, a Christmas
ad. I remember only parts of each:

  "When the values go up-up-up, And the prices go down-down-down
   Robert Hall this season will show you the reason:
   Low o-ver-head, low o-ver-head."
  I understand this one, as well as the remaining, was recorded by Les Pau
and Mary Ford.

  "School bells ring and children sing, It's back to Robert Hall this year.
   Mother knows for children's clothes, It's back to Robert Hall this year."
  There's more to it, but that's where my memory ends for this one.

  "We're doing our Christmas shopping  At Robert Hall this year.
   We're saving on clothes for Christmas  At Robert Hall this year.
   For quality, more low prices  And gifts for one and all
   For the finest selection  The biggest selection
   Where America goes for family clothes
   It's Robert Hall this year."

    These may not be completely accurate but remember that it's been probably
thirty years since I heard the latter two. I saw the first somewhere on the
net but don't remember where.
  Try a search engine or Wikipedia and try either Robert Hall or Les Paul and
Mary Ford.
    BTW and a bit newer than the time-frame of OTR, does anyone remember the
Hai Karate commercials? "[removed] - be CAREFUL how you wear it!" I'd like
to get recordings of these. Also, does anyone remember the four "Seasonal
Sounds of Self-Defense"? It's probably now consider so non-PC, but they were
a little far-out for their time.

  Now the HTML thing. I sent a post awhile back and got an auto-response to
the effect that I had the wrong format. I tried to correct it but I don't
think I got it straightened out. Hey - I [removed]

  Bob

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:53:13 -0500
From: "Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed];
To: "[The Old-Time Radio Mailing List]" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Ooops!: "Robert Hall" Replies Deleted As Spam! 
 :(

Grrrr!!! Technical mis-step -- your E-Mail replies were all marked as Spam
and were automatically deleted before I realized it. (All I have is the
record of the deletions.) Please re-send your replies, thanks! (They'll
still get marked as Spam, but this time I'll know what's happening and will
be able to intercept them BEFORE they reach the bit-bucket!

Sincere apologies for the inconvenience. (If it assuages your sense of
inequity any, intercepting messages in this manner poses a moderately-high
level of inconvenience to ME, too.)

Given that the Spammers have forced me (at least, on this occasion, which
is thankfully exceedingly RARE!) to Jump through Hoops in order to receive
legitimate E-Mails, I have the sickening feeling that they're [removed]! :(

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:53:27 -0500
From: Jerry Haendiges <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

Hi Friends,

Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you
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Happy Thanksgiving!

THE GOOD NEWS SHOW
Episode 91    11-23-39    "Here Come The Pilgrims"
Stars: Walter Huston and Raymond Walburn.
In Honor Of It's 76th Anniversary, Walter Huston Recites The "Gettysberg
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THANKSGIVING STORY BY BABY SNOOKS.

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Episode 543    11-24-47    "Us Pilgrims"
Stars: George Tobias, Ralph Bell, Mercedes McCambridge

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Narrator: Peter Roberts
==================================

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THE ALDRICH FAMILY
NBC    11/25/48   "Thanksgiving Dance and Turkey Run"
Ezra Stone/Jackie Kelk.

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CBS    11/22/39    Starring Gene Hersholt in" "Prelude to Thanksgiving"

LUM AND ABNER
ABC    11/22/45    "Thanksgiving Dinner"
====================================

THE GLOWING DIAL

The Answer Man - "Thanksgiving Questions"
originally aired November 23, 1944 on WOR / MUTUAL
Starring: Albert Mitchell as The Answer Man.
Sponsor: Trommer's White Label Beer

Family Theater - "Home For Thanksgiving"
originally aired November 27, 1947 on MUTUAL
Starring: Paul Henreid, Joan Leslie, Charles Boyer hosts, Tony LoFrano
announcing.
Sustained

Casey: Crime Photographer - "After Turkey, The Bill"
originally aired November 27, 1947 on CBS
Starring: Staats Cotsworth, Jan Miner, John Gibson, Tony Marvin announcing.
Sponsor: Anchor-Hocking Glass Corporation

Anthology - "The Story Of Thanksgiving"
originally aired November 21, 1954 on WRCA, NY
Starring: Agnes Moorehead, Fred Waring Glee Club, New England
Conservatory Alumni Chorus, Fleetwood announcing.
Sustained

The Adventures Of Sam Spade - "The Terrified Turkey Caper"
originally aired November 24, 1950 on NBC
Starring: Steven Dunne, Lurene Tuttle, Dick Joy announcing.
Produced, Edited & Directed by William Spier (Suspense).
Music by Lud Gluskin.
Sustained
==================================

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      Jerry Haendiges

      Jerry@[removed]  562-696-4387
      The Vintage Radio Place   [removed]
      Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on
the Net

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:54:18 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Sold on Radio

Glen P. asks:

Does anyone here remember the "Robert Hall" radio commercials?
If so --

1. Can anyone provide the complete words? All I happen to remember
   of them is:
             "Oh the values go up, up, up;
              And the prices go down, down [removed]"

I suspect many of us here do, Glenn.  The next couplet reads:

"Robert Hall this season will show you the [removed]
Low overhead ... low overhead!"

That one and scores of others will, I predict, be running through your head
until you probably want to yell "turn it off!" after you read my next tome:

SOLD ON RADIO
Advertisers in the Golden Age of Broadcasting

It recounts most of the medium's major marketers by providing boatloads of
details about the firms, campaigns and personalities responsible for the
marketing mix we heard on the aural ether in those days.  The commercial
jingles, of course, were a very important aspect.

This is another attempt to fill the gaps of another niche in radio's history
that has languished too long.  The work focuses on 24 major American
corporations that were everyday advertisers on the airwaves while
identifying 100 added frequent marketers there, including where they plugged
their wares.  There's a helpful glossary of terms and lots of
self-explanatory sidebar material along with photographs of some of the
shows.

This new work is scheduled for release next spring/summer and may answer all
of those questions you have about advertising on radio.  If this largely
unexplored territory appeals to you, put it on your wish list now.

You can read about it now at
[removed]

Jim Cox

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:12:53 -0500
From: James Yellen <clifengr3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Robert Hall Radio Commercial

The values go up, up, up
The prices go down, down, down
Robert Hall's the reason
blah blah blah blah season
Low [removed]
Low overhead.

School bells ring and children sing
It's back to Robert Hall again.
Mother knows
for best in clothes
It's back to Robert Hall again.
blah blah yadda yadda blah
Shop at Robert Hall

Does that help?

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:13:20 -0500
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Long titles

Dan Haefele writes about a series labeled "Names of Tomorrow Finding Stardom
Today in  Hollywood" and asks:

can anyone think of a radio show  with a longer names?

I dunno.  Maybe "Music and the Spoken Word from the Crossroads of the West"
perhaps?  It's the official moniker of The Mormon Tablernacle Choir and/or
Salt Lake City Tabernacle Choir program.  But then, a homily by any other
name smells just as sweet.

Jim Cox

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:14:25 -0500
From: DanHaefele@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  G I Journal log

I'm transferring some G I Journal programs for SPERDVAC's  library.  A Google
search hasn't turned up a log of this AFRS series.   Anyone know where I can
locate one?

Dan Haefele
SPERDVAC Acquisitions Chair

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:46:51 -0500
From: Rodney Bowcock <pasttense_78@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  final Gildersleeve episode

The date, April 16, 1957 must be a mistake because
Gildy's last episode was #551 dated 6/2/54.

I doubt I'll be the only one to point this out, but
this is not the case at all, though the logs do end at
this date.  Gildersleeve lived on in new episodes off
and on for three more years, in various formats
including a 15 minute daily strip show, and a 25
minute traditional sitcom.  Very few episodes after
the 6/2/54 date exist (though a few have recently been
uncovered).

Martin Grams Jr located the scripts in a college
archive, so maybe the log can be updated in the
future.

Rodney

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:45:48 -0500
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Border Radio

Just wanted to alert interested parties that there was an audio article
on this week's "On The Media" about John Brinkley and Border Radio that
is interesting to hear. It should be of interest to Old Time Radio fans
as it delves into Brinkley, Pappy O'Daniel and other early radio
promoters. You can hear it as well as download the file at this location:

[removed]

Jim Widner

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:30:28 -0500
From: Afanofoldradio@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  dick [removed]
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it has been reported that actor dick wilson, though not known for radio,has
died at age 91. he played [removed] in Charmin commercials for many years for
 Proctor and [removed] kienzler springfield ill.

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:12:12 -0500
From: Richard Olday <raolday@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Robert Hall

Glen wanted info on Robert Hall commercials. The one I
remember is School Bells ringing, children singing,
it's back to Robert Hall again. That is all my fading
memory recalls. Dick

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:13:04 -0500
From: Durangokid@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ROBERT HALL COMMERCIALS

Does anyone here remember the "Robert Hall" radio commercials?
Can anyone provide the complete words? All I happen to remember
   of them is:
             "Oh the values go up, up, up;
              And the prices go down, down [removed]"

CAPITOL RECORDS came out with a four CD box set titled "THE
LEGEND OF LES PAUL" and includes a 56 page booklet detailing
his career and all the songs in the box set . .

The box includes seven ROBERT HALL commercials, five RHEINGOLD
BEER commercials, several of their radio shows and all of
their Capitol recordings EXCEPT "THE MAN ON THE FLYING TRAPEZE"
which came out in 1948 . . . Don't know why it wasn't included .

The rest of the words to the above:
              "Robert Hall this season
               Will show you the reason
               Low over head - low over head"
And, for your listening pleasure, they do one with a hillbilly
twang, another with Chinese phrasing and another in a German-
marching-through-Europe flair . . .

Les comments in the booklet that these spots were made in
the late 1950's and just before he and Mary divorced . .Les
continued into the mid 1960's when the " . . old man died
and ROBERT HALL became extinct . . "

A lot of today's box sets of recording artists include false
starts and alternate takes . . You'll never hear these from
Les & Mary as they recorded at home and delivered the finished
product to Capitol Records . . .

             Glen E. Mueller  ~  Rowland Heights, CA
             SPERDVAC Founding Member #12

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:14:55 -0500
From: John Abbott <mraastro@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Robert Hall lyrics
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I have not thought of Robert Hall in decades, but I do remember getting a
winter coat there once that was warm and heavy - - and outgrown before
spring!

As far as the words, these come to mind:

"Oh the values go up, up, upAnd the prices go down, down down
Robert Hall this season is telling the reason
Low overhead, Low overhead!"
It is amazing what come to mind when you just let it idle for a while - now I
hope I can get it OUT!

harmed in sending this [removed], some electrons along the way were
inconvenienced.

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:28:38 -0500
From: <celticone22-radiodigest@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE:  Gildersleeve

In digest 326, Frank McGurn answered a question
regarding the Gildersleever show.  Per one log Frank
referenced, the show ended at episode 551, dated April
6, 1952.

However, another log, Old Time Radio Researchers
Group, shows the following shows after that one:

*  4/06/02  551 Trying to End Aunt Hattie's Stay

* 54/10/26      A Pal To Leroy
* 55/10/20      Floyd's Inheritance
* 55/xx/xx      Vacation Time
* 56/xx/xx      Doye O'Dells Dude Ranch (AFRS 498)
* 57/02/28      Red Cross Benefit Show
* 57/03/07      Gildy Causes Water Outage
* 57/04/16      Family Prepares For Easter
* 57/xx/xx      Bessie's Vacation
* 57/xx/xx      Water Reservoir Down (AFRS 508)

Anne

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Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:45:03 -0500
From: "Bob Scherago" <rscherago@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: Robert Hall

"Glenn P.," <C128User@[removed]; wrote:

Does anyone here remember the "Robert Hall" radio commercials?
Can anyone provide the complete words? All I happen to remember
  of them is:
            "Oh the values go up, up, up;
             And the prices go down, down [removed]"

Well, I'm not 100% sure, but I remember it as

"When the values go up, up, up,
and the prices go down, down, down,
Robert Hall this season will give you the reason,
Low overhead, low overhead!"

Am I close?

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