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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 15
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Thank You Harlan Zinck [ "Robert J. McKee" <mckee137@mindspr ]
The surprise caricaturists! [ leemunsick@[removed] ]
Whitfield Connor [ "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@hotmai ]
Re: Plan ahead-Seattle 6/28-30. [ sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn) ]
New DVD MP3 Player [ "James Horn" <oldtimeradiohome@msn. ]
Thanks from Mom and another question [ "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@anchorwall. ]
Re: Children's Records [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
OTR Actress dies [ Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed]; ]
Godfrey was a sly old fox. [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
Only The Shadow [removed] [ "Ryan Hall" <pezman419@[removed]; ]
Converting tapes into digital files [ "[removed]" <swells@[removed]; ]
Old-Time Radio, and I mean Old! [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
The Masked Man Comes to [removed]! [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
Bob & Ray [ "Jeff Bankens" <jeff_bankens@thenew ]
Re: Detectives [ "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-self ]
OTR photo in the Economist [ "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed] ]
Re: Howard Culver [ Cnorth6311@[removed] ]
French scholar [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
TELLO TEST [ BryanH362@[removed] ]
Re: MP3 encoding [ Fred Berney <berney@[removed]; ]
Today in Radio History [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:06:38 -0500
From: "Robert J. McKee" <mckee137@[removed];
To: "Old Radio List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Thank You Harlan Zinck
I have been lurking around this list for some time now thanks
to Mr. Zinck's making me aware of it's existance. I had intended
just to join and ask for help locating someone who would be able
to provide me a cassette tape of a news broadcast of two of
Gabriel Heatter from WW II. I remember as a youngster his
"Ah, there is good news tonight" lead-in and I want to share that
experience with some of today's young people who might not
share the patriotism us old geezers have. When I was a youngster
there were still lots of WW I vets around and Memorial Day
had programs in every town with everyone being there, remembering
those who paid the ultimate price for our freedom.
[removed] reading these posts awakens memories that I had forgotten
about years ago. All-girl [removed] Evelyn and her magic violin,
late night big band remotes (remember when music was music?) and
so many other things that were wholesome entertainment for the whole
family.
All those Chicago stations had buttons set to them at home and in the
car. But there was one Sunday morning after church program from
WGN that I will never forget. Harold Turner at the pipe organ. I
understood that when the new studios were built it was only through
his efforts the organ made that costly move to be heard for many
more years. Anyone know of it's fate?
Bob McKee
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:07:01 -0500
From: leemunsick@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The surprise caricaturists!
I love being corrected when I am in error; after all, one learns from one's
mistakes! In my posting about Al Hirschfeld I [removed] once, but
twice! This is what happens when one assumes things (you know what they
say about that!).
I am delighted to hear of the other-than-Hirschfeld caricatures of Jack
Benny and Alfred Hitchcock. It's a special treat to learn that the one OF
Hitch was also BY Hitch! Who would have guessed? Leads me to ask if his
name appears anywhere in or under the caricature on the slide used for his
TV program? Thanks so much! Lee Munsick
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:05:26 -0500
From: "John edwards" <jcebigjohn41@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Whitfield Connor
As a long time collector of OTR I came across the name Whitfield Connor
recently. He starred in several shows from The Romance Series & at least
one from Theatre Five. Until I listened to these shows I had never heard of
him before. He seemed like a very good radio actor. What other shows did he
star in or appear in. I always try to listen for the credits at the end of
shows, but maybe I'm just getting forgetful but I don't recall hearing his
name before. He reminds me a little bit of Bob Bailey. Thanks John
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:08:16 -0500
From: sfx-meow@[removed] (Ray Erlenborn)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Plan ahead-Seattle 6/28-30.
As an enthusiastic radio alumnus, I've been invited to participate in
many OTR recreations for more than 20 years and I'm looking forward to
yet another adventure this year in Seattle when The Radio Enthusiasts of
Puget Sound present their REPS Showcase conventon. A bunch of us who
worked in radio make this convention a must-do on our calendar and we go
every year.
I can vouch for a well run and very friendly, small and intimate, 3 day
Gala!
I've never seen a fan, or for that matter, an actor who didn't leave the
convention in high spirits!
May I encourage OTR fans to plan ahead and visit the Seattle REPS
website at [removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:08:51 -0500
From: "James Horn" <oldtimeradiohome@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: New DVD MP3 Player
Today I went to Circuit City and purchased The Apex Digital AD-1500 DVD
Video Player. On the box it said it would play MP3 files, upon asking a
sales person what bit rate it could play, he told me that he didn't know and
there was no documentation to find out. (Some help he was) well the price
was right ($[removed]) so I purchased it in hopes it would support mono format
OTR shows. After getting it all set-up and playing a DVD to make sure it
was working AOK, I put in an MP3 Disk "Life of Riley" with-out doing
anything it pulled it up, put a listing on the screen of my TV. WOW I was
amazed, I scrolled down to the first episode hit the enter button and it
played wonderfully. I am unsure what type of names (Digital data) it will
handle, but I will look into the book and see. Of Course all shows on the
CD were listed as just Life Of Riley with-out the actual nems of the shows,
but it may be in the formating of the titles on the disk. I will look into
it and follow up.
Either way, for $[removed] I am extremely happy with it.
Jimbo
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:09:10 -0500
From: "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Thanks from Mom and another question
First, my Mom asked me to thank everyone who responded, both on- and
off-list, to her questions about Skippy. We were both disappointed to
discover there are no known recordings, but hopefully something will
turn up in the future.
When I started collecting OTR about 20 years ago, my only source was the
local Hennepin County library, and their limited collection of Radio
Reruns tapes. One tape I made a (bad) copy of was of a program called
"5-Minute Mysteries". Does anyone have any info on this series? By the
way, what ever happened to Radio Reruns?
Thanks,
Ron
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:09:46 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Children's Records
For the last year, I've been transferring my collection of old children's
78 rpm records to CDs. You can go on my web site and listen to short one
minute excerpts from about 20 of these. Just start by clicking on the OTR
link. Then look on the left frame for the link for the Children's Classic
Records.
In a few days, I'll be putting up a special page for interesting clips.
I'll be starting with the Author Anderson clip I talked about a little
while ago.
Then as I get them transferred, I'll put putting up interviews and all
sorts of OTR interesting stuff. All free, just for your entertainment.
[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:09:59 -0500
From: Richard Pratz <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR (Plain Text Only)" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR Actress dies
Actress Lillian Green Caran died Jan. 2, 2002 in Long Island, [removed]
Her obituary credits her with "thousands of radio and television network
appearances including "Fibber McGee & Molly" - "The Goldbergs" - and "Ellery
Queen". I can't locate her in any of my OTR reference books under the name
"Green" or "Caran". Can anyone shed some light?
Rich
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:07:32 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Godfrey was a sly old fox.
leemunsick@[removed] writes:
[Archie Bleyer] was replaced [on Arthur Godfrey's shows] by Richard Hyman,
From: "Dave Walter"
Do I assume correctly that this would be ... Dick Hyman [who]...
has since ... accompanied Don Imus in the latter's nightclub act
and commercial recordings? From Godfrey to Imus - now THAT
would strip the gears!
Not really! If Godfrey's career had started around 1960 instead of
around 1930, he would be right up there with the top of today's morning
shock-jocks: Imus, Howard Stern, and Bob & Tom, and probably would have
beat "Feminine Forum" pioneer, Bill Ballance, to the punch back in the
70s. I've discussed my theory with Lee Munsick many times: Godfrey had
one of the cleverest dirty minds in the business. Whenever he could he
would slip in a sly little double-entendre and with an innocent grin
would get away with it. Compare the format of Godfrey's daytime show to
that of Stern--a bunch of friends sit around and chat, it was often
simulcast on TV, the boss is wearing headphones, and guests come on.
The only difference is that Stern has no band and Godfrey's guests sang
instead of stripped.
Michael Biel mbiel@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:11:50 -0500
From: "Ryan Hall" <pezman419@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Only The Shadow [removed]
Well, I seemed to have misplaced (read: lost) my collection of The Shadow
MP3 CDs, and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to trade me for
their collection. Let me [removed]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:33:29 -0500
From: "[removed]" <swells@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Converting tapes into digital files
Peter:
I would imagine that you will recieve a lot of good advice here in the
digest, but I will try to put in my "2 cents worth." It really depends on
what your trying to achive, and how much work you want to put into it. Some
basic equipment needs:
A very good sound card
Good digital audio software
A good quality cassette or open reel deck, clean heads, etc, etc
- I will detail the process that I go though to do it, but that doesn't mean
that this is the only way to do it. First I play the tape into the system
and record it using Cool Edit Pro , [removed] .com . After it's into
the system, I "shape the audio," meaning that I make sure there are nice
neat beginnings and endings, then I use a parametric eq, one of the many
functions on CEP. After that, I amplify the wave form to achive uniform
sound throughout the recording. I then go through step by step and begin to
remove the clicks, pops, cracks, and any tape hiss, up to a 30 band graphic
eq. etc, etc. Depending on the quality on the original material, these steps
will fluxuate accordingly. Once that is all completed, I sample, [removed] listen
to various segments of the show to see how it turned out. Bear in mind that
this is still in a .wav format ( not mp3 just yet). If the recording is up
to par, then I name the file, [removed]
original airdate , episode number if known, and the show title:
[removed] 711126 (11) Vacation With Death
I have been for sometime just using the higher bitrates, [removed] 44,100/160 or
better but this is a matter of choice and you'll have to decide which one
you prefer. At that high bitrate you can put about 12-13 hours of digital
audio onto one CD.
One major thing to keep in mind is that the quality of the source material
will have a big affect on the quality of the mp3. You can make a recording
better than the original source, but you can't work miracles. Meaning that
if your using a 15th generation tape that sounds pretty bad, you can not
make a mp3 that would sound like a 1st generation master from it. But if
your talking about high quality tapes from RS, RM, etc, etc. then you can
make very good quality mp3's from them. As I stated earlier, there are many,
many ways to do it. The neat thing about it is that once you do it, then you
will not have to play your original source material again, thus greatly
reducing the risk of damaging it. Atleast that is what I do, after I finish
a series I box up that material and pack it away, or in the case the souce
material was not mine, I send it back to the owner along with a set of the
mp3/cd's so they can save their originals as well. Mp3 has really gotten a
bad name in some cases as it refers to OTR, mainly becasue of some of the
poor recordings and encodes that have floated around. But in reality, if
it's done right, you will be amazed at what you can do with it. I took over
200 commerially bought music CD's from my collection, Big Bands, Classical,
Blues, etc. and encoded them all at the high rates and reduced the pile of
CD's down to about 6 Mp3/CD's. Since I have a car stereo that will play
Mp3/CD's, this turned out great. To be honest, I couldn't tell the
difference between the two when I played them back to back.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:34:21 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Old-Time Radio, and I mean Old!
Joe Mackey, quoting from Those Were the Days,
1906 - Hugh Gernsback of the Electro Importing Company advertised radio
receivers for sale for the low, low price of just $[removed] in Scientific
American magazine. The first ad selling the gizmos guaranteed reception
of about one mile.
Mr. Gernsback was a phenomenon. However, you could get better than one
mile reception from a crystal set! (I might add that the crystal set was
the first semiconductor radio ever fabricated.)
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:34:35 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Masked Man Comes to [removed]!
Just when I had given up all hope of ever finding the special anniversary
edition of the Cheerios packages with the Lone Ranger lunchbox, I found them
last night! Having looked in all of the major supermarkets of the area and
in Target and in K-Mart and in Walmart, etc. and NOT finding them, where do
you think I saw them? In a market that caters to the Mexican-American
community!!! Caramba!!!
Don't give up hope, people.
Barbara
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:35:51 -0500
From: "Jeff Bankens" <jeff_bankens@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Bob & Ray
Hello All,
Recently I heard a Bob & Ray show on NPR. I think it was some kind of
tribute to them. The episode they aired had a segment called Mr. Science or
Golly Mr. Science.
Does any one know how many Mr. Science sketches Bob & Ray did? Thanks in
advance!
Jeff Bankens
Westlake, LA 70669
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:36:14 -0500
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Detectives
I always found Phillip Marlowe (the Gerald Mohr version) to be one of the
finest shows of the genre on the air. I honestly, enjoyed, but never
quite understood why Sam Spade was considered a superior show.
My little brother has a couple Broadway Is My Beat episodes (He isn't
fond of the show by the way) and I'll have to check out his before I can
have an opinion.
I *do* suggest that you not judge the Johnny Dollar episodes in that
particular set as the best of the show. You need the 5 part episodes
with Bob Bailey for that. Though I'm learning the Bailey 30 minute shows
aren't half bad either.
rodney.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:36:37 -0500
From: "Philip Chavin" <philchav@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR photo in the Economist
Recently Michael B. asked us for the identities of the persons in the
"Hollywood Hotel" photo in the Economist article he referred to.
Harold Z. replied that the older gentleman (on the right) was Edwardo
Canadino. I think I recognize that gentleman and he's probably the same
actor Harold had in mind, but if it's who I think it is, his name was
Ed(u)ardo Cian(n)elli.
-- Phil C.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:38:14 -0500
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Howard Culver
How played Dr. Gillette in the movie "The Black Whip"
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:34:37 -0500
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: French scholar
I'm looking for a French scholar who can help me with the proper spelling
of a French name. A character in a radio drama that I'm including in one
of my books has a French moniker and I'm at a loss to know how to spell
it. Would anyone skilled in French contact me directly and let's see if
we can arrive at a better guess than I've been able to give it. Thanks
for any helpers who are willing to try.
Jim Cox
otrbuff@[removed]
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:03:15 -0500
From: BryanH362@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: TELLO TEST
01-15-2001
Awhile back the discussion on the digest centered around a radio program that
a few had remembered called "Tello -Test".
I came across an ad for the old show the other day .
Monday October 8, 1945
Tune In Red and White Food Stores ' "TELLO-TEST"
Starts Oct. 8 KXL Mon thru Fri 11:30 am
It's fun ! It's Easy ! It Pays ! Al Schuss asks the question
You give the answer ! Enjoy this fascinating radio game . You'll find the
answer posted at you nearest Red and White store . Get the answer !....Listen
to Tello-Test.
Be ready to earn liberal cash prize if called.
It's radio's greatest quiz show featuring Al Schuss as quizmaster ....
Sponsored by your Red & White stores.
MONEY ! MONEY ! MONEY ! MONEY ! MONEY !
Hmmm ..... I don't even recall the Red & White food stores but the show
seems very much like the early morning radio I recall from the 70s .
(Interspersed with the top
hits of the day of course.)
KXL was one of Portland's independant stations . If Money wasn't your
reason for listening to radio each day at 11:30 am you could always switch
over to a network station and hear Woman of America (KGW NBC) , Stars of
Today (KEX ABC) ,
Rosemary (KOIN CBS) or Queen for a day (KALE Mutual ).
Looking back I think I would have been induced to listen to Tello -Test .
Did we ever decide why they called it Tello-Test ?
-Bryan
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:06:45 -0500
From: Fred Berney <berney@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: MP3 encoding
Peter, Here is what you need to do to convert your audio cassettes to MP3.
Attach a cable between the output of your audio cassette recorder and the
input of your computer sound card. You want to use the AUX IN not the MIC IN.
Download a program like Cool Edit or if you purchased the Deluxe version of
EZ CD Creator, it comes with a sound recording program.
Record the sound from your cassette into your computer. Save it as a WAV
file. Although if you buy certain versions of Cool Edit, you can save it
directly as a MP3 file.
But, if you don't have that feature then you'll need an encoder. I happen
to like the Ultimate Encoder. You can download a 30 day trial version and
then you'll need to buy it. There are probably some freeware or other
shareware programs out on the Net that may let you use them indefinitely
with certain features removed unless you purchase them.
A good place to find a lot of stuff like this is [removed]
If you end up using an MP3 encoder, they all you basically do is select the
WAV file you want to encode and press a few buttons.
Prior to encoding, you'll need to select the Sample Rate and Encoding Size.
Much discussion has been made on this forum as to what is best. Whatever
you select, make sure, if you are planning to make CDs and play them on a
CD/MP3 player, that you select rates that match your player.
If you or anyone else needs more details, email me directly. Hope this helps
[ADMINISTRIVIA: If you're using a Macintosh or unix machine instead of a
Windows box however, you will need different software. Again, when
referencing software, please note under what operating system the software
runs. We have a large number of Mac users, and a few unix users on this list.
Not everyone runs Windows, folks. --cfs3]
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:24:20 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in Radio History
From Those Were The Days --
1945 - Art Linkletter starred on the CBS radio debut of House Party. The
show continued on the air for 22 years, including a long stint on CBS
television
Joe
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