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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2002 : Issue 92
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Not astounded at Lone Ranger Popular [ "Thomas Mason" <batz34@[removed] ]
Great buys on blank cd's [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
Hi-Yo, Hi-Yo, It's To the Past We Go [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Secret Patrol? [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
There They Go Again ... [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
OTR Stamps [ "Arte" <arte@[removed]; ]
Time Machine & new Lone Ranger [ Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@yahoo. ]
i need some help [ "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed]; ]
Radio Goes to the Movies, Lillian Bu [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
MORE RADIO WINES: STILL ON THE MARKE [ Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@doityours ]
Cresta Blanca [ "Irene Heinstein" <[removed] ]
The Black Museum [ StevenL751@[removed] ]
OTRN Schedule [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
Astounded at the Lone Ranger [ ADeTol1@[removed] ]
Doc Savage Radio Shows [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
Today in radio history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Re: Benny shows 1953 [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
NBC Recordings at LC [ "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@earthli ]
William Shatner [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
A pleasant memory [ otrbuff@[removed] ]
Who was it? [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed]; ]
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 18:33:26 -0500
From: "Thomas Mason" <batz34@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Not astounded at Lone Ranger Popularity on
Radio
Approved: ctrn4eeWlc
What's not to like about the Lone Ranger on radio? I always preferred him
on radio to the images that the comic books put forth. He just seemed more
"real." The closest thing to the radio show was the first Republic Pictures
serial from which Trendle acquired all his neat music cues and bridges even
though he hated the serial treatment of his [removed] then of
course, came Clayton Moore who became the physical manisfistation of the
character.
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:18:19 -0500
From: ilamfan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Great buys on blank cd's
Just a note for those of you who burn OTR shows
onto cd's - Starting Sunday 3/10/02 until 3/16/02 Office
Max is selling a 100-pack of "Hi-Val" recordable cds for
$40 with a $30 rebate, which (after the rebate) ends up
being only 10 cents a cd!
This may sound like an ad (it's not - I don't work
for Office Max or have any of their stock or anything),
but when I run into a good deal like this, I have to let
people know.
I bought a stack a few months ago for a similar
rebate - it took 2 months to get the rebate (which is
about par for the course - why is that?), and the cd's
work just fine (I have used about 50 so far, and none
have failed). Although generally, you don't want to
use "cheapie" discs for archiving (they just don't hold
up as well over time as most name-brand discs), I will
continue to buy these for "average-use" at these prices.
There's also a $30 rebate for a 100-pack of "Spin-
X" cds, I don't know the original price yet. Has anyone
out there had experience with this brand?
Stephen Jansen
--
Old Time Radio never dies - it just changes formats!
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:29:32 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Hi-Yo, Hi-Yo, It's To the Past We Go
:Jer51473 notes, anent the Lone Ranger,
I cant believe that this program was so well liked. <snip> Its funny,
i was a great fan of the Lone Ranger, but more as a comic hero than as a
radio hero. <snip> Was it one of the top rated in terms of
popularity back in the forties?
The Lone Ranger was quite popular, and spanned more than 20 years. As
I've mentioned before, in the radio show, history was a part of many
stories (even when the history was a tad inaccurate), unlike later
presentations. The Lone Ranger himself was presented as a legendary
character, but not so legendary as to lose all humanity. Some have
likened him to a more modern version of a chivalric knight of old.
Possibly the listening audience of the time had a greater sense of
history than nowadays.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:29:54 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Secret Patrol?
Andy DeToll, speaking of obtaining premiums, notes,
However to join Captaiin Midnite's Secret Squadron, it required going
to a Skelly Gas Station and requesting a special form from the owner. I
remember asking for the form from a rather surly station employee. He
was the exception, for most of the adults treated us kids pretty well in
those days.
Actually, during Skelly Oil's sponsorship, the Captain Midnight group
listeners could join was the Flight Patrol. The Secret Squadron came
with Ovaltine sponsorship. The Flight Patrol was an "informal" group,
meaning that it wasn't much of a story element, whereas the Secret
Squadron was a group actively involved in storylines. When I was
listening, part of me was proud to be a Secret Squadron member, while
another part wondered when I'd be able to get my hands on a Pocket
Locator and a .45 automatic, like Chuck and Joyce had.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:29:59 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: There They Go Again ...
As mentioned before, as time passes, things relating to OTR may have fact
replaced by legend.
In The Encyclopedia of Cryptology, by David E. Newton (ABC-CLIO, 1997),
can be found a notation for Radio Serials, is the following:
"Opportunities were offered to obtain decoder rings, badges, and other
simple cipher devices that could be used for the transmission of messages
from broadcast hero or heroine to listeners or between listeners."
There never were "decoder rings" as OTR premiums. But the legend goes on
and on.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:14:22 -0500
From: "Arte" <arte@[removed];
To: "OldRadio Mailing List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OTR Stamps
Dr Biel [removed] trivia question for the group.
These three [removed] stamps each show something that
was actually a broadcast. What are they?
I'm not sure , but I would guess "War of the Worlds,"
the Hindenburg, and the "Fireside Chats"
Arte
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:05:09 -0500
From: Alan/Linda Bell <alanlinda43@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Time Machine & new Lone Ranger
"Arthur Lortie" asks:
Can anyone direct me to [or send me] an mp3 of the 1940's radio episode that
adapted Wells' Time Machine?
If there is a 1940s version of The Time machine, I'd be interested in
knowing about it too. I'm only aware of a perfectly execrable X Minus
One version from the 1950s that just about made me hurl my cookies.
And to the folks who are worried about the coming "desecration" of
the Lone Ranger in the movies, I'm reminded of a story. Someone was
supposedly commiserating with William Faulkner (I think), saying how
sorry they were that one of his books had been ruined by the movie,
to which he is said to have replied, "They didn't do a thing to my
book. It's still there on the shelf, waiting to be read."
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:05:51 -0500
From: "Ed Carr" <edcarr@[removed];
To: OldRadio Mailing Lists <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: i need some help
hi
this is open to anyone who has handled glass discs, i need an idea
to pkg and ship glass based discs and to see that they arrive
safely across country, any input would be welcome, i have never
shipped glass before and even though i think i know a way, i would
prefer someone with experience
ed
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:06:43 -0500
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio Goes to the Movies, Lillian Buyeff
Herb Ellis and Herm Saunders have now been added, along with Art Gilmore and
Michael J. Hayde, to the Jack Webb/Dragnet panel for the Radio Goes to the
Movies weekend in May. For details of events, see
[removed]
Herb Ellis informed us that Lillian Buyeff died about two months ago of lung
cancer. Many of you may have had the pleasure of meeting her either at
SPERDVAC or at the Friends of Old Time radio conventions. Does anyone have
an obituary for her? I couldn't find one on the internet.
Thanks,
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:48:56 -0500
From: Kevin Michaels <kmichaels@[removed];
To: "Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: MORE RADIO WINES: STILL ON THE MARKET
There are two wines that sponsored radio shows during the Golden Era, that
are still being sold today - and possibly a third one. Manachevitts and
Mogen David Wine were popular brands, and I think one of them (Mogen David)
sponsored Sherlock Holmes at one time. The third one, although not a program
sponsor, did have a running commercial by Orson Welles that ended with:. . .
"Paul Monet will sell NO [removed] its time!" I remember the jingle for
Manachevitts went something like this: "Mano-mano-chevitts Kosher wine for
me, that's the wine I want 'cause its heavenly, etc."
Kevin Michaels
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:49:25 -0500
From: "Irene Heinstein" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Cresta Blanca
I feel like a wine industry researcher. This info about wine conglomerates
and corporate wineries is not something I have at hand but at one time when
I worked in survey research, around 1966, the company with which I worked
was hired by Heublein Inc. for an exploratory study in the Napa Valley wine
area since they were interested in their own piece of the market such as
Schenley industries had.
Now to Cresta Blanca, which was founded in 1890, and in its long history to
1941, was considered the finest winery in California, and is still
considered the Most Historic one. Using French cuttings, and having
limestone aging tunnels and perfect soil, it produced wine which to
everyone's amazement won two gold medals at the 1889 Paris Exposition. In
1941 the Cresta Blanca estate and trade name were sold to Schenley
industries which means they were the owners during radio years. In the
late 60s the Cresta Blanca winery and the limestone aging tunnels were
closed. Schenley industries was the producer of Cresta Blanca until 1971.
In 1965 Schenley along with DiGeorgio became the 2 targets of Cesar Chavez'
UFW organizing campaign, selected because they were both absentee corporate
owners with the wine business being only a small part of their operations,
and also because other divisions of their company were unionized. (Both
corporations eventually signed contracts with UFW)
In 1971 the Cresta Blanca name was sold to the Guild Wine Company which as
far as I can tell produced Cresta Blanca wine at least until 1977, perhaps
later (even though it was not produced at the Cresta Blanca vineyards.) So
both Roma and Cresta Blanca ended up at Guild and from there to Canandiagua
which does not produce any wine under the Roma or Cresta Blanca name.
The Cresta Blanca vineyard and limestone tunnels were subsequently acquired
by the Wente family. Once known as Wente Bros. it is now called Wente
Winery. They restored the vineyards and limestone tunnels which are now the
site of the Wente sparking wine production facility and restaurant. The
site is a California historic landmark.
More then you probably want to know about Cresta [removed]
from
Irene Theodore Heinstein
El Cerrito, CA
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:49:45 -0500
From: StevenL751@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Black Museum
I just saw a news item on Reuters saying that the BLACK MUSEUM radio show is
being turned into a tv series. Although it's not totally clear from the
article, it sounds like they will be taking the original Orson Welles
narration from the radio version and using it to narrate the tv show, with an
actor portraying Welles in silhouette. The tv version is being produced by
Harry Alan Towers, who also produced the radio version in the 1950's. He's
producing it in England, and hopes to sell it "around the world" starting in
September.
Steve Lewis
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:11:41 -0500
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTRN Schedule
Here's the schedule of Olde Tyme Radio Network shows for the week starting
Sunday, 03/10/02: [removed]
SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
The Campbell Playhouse - 10/15/39 "Escape" starring Wendie Barrie
Theatre Guild On The Air - 10/12/47 "Cyrano De Bergerac - starring Frederick
March, Florence Eldrige and Ernest Graves
HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
NBC's 25th Anniversary - "The Magic Box" with hosts, Fibber McGee & Molly,
who
"tune in" on a plethora of top NBC talent from the first 25 years.
Dick Tracy - 5/8/45 The V-E Day broadcast.
ENJOY! Tom & Jerry
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:12:41 -0500
From: ADeTol1@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Astounded at the Lone Ranger
The Lone Ranger was the favorite program of all my friends when we were
inthe second, third and fourth grades in the late thirties and early forties.
The reason was because each episode was complete, the rest of the kid's
programs were all 15 minute serials , and there were a loot of them.
We all listened to Tom Mix with the wrangler, Jack Armstrong, Orpan Annie and
the rest. But none of them had the William Tell overture or the thundering
hoof beats.
I have about 200 of them on MP3 and I still enjoy them.
Andy
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:33:11 -0500
From: ilamfan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
Subject: Doc Savage Radio Shows
Does anyone out there have a *quality* version of
the NPR "Doc Savage" radio series? I have copies from 3
different sources (internet download/ebay mp3 cd/OTR
trader's club), all of which seem to have been taken
from the same pitifully poorly encoded "swishy" mp3s.
I really would like to hear this series in good
sound - the acting and production seem to be excellent,
but the poor quality really detracts from my total
enjoyment.
I know that someone out there must have recorded
these shows with some good audio equipment, there must
be a better master out there than a badly-made mp3,
right?
I've got plenty to trade, or would gladly pay for
your time and trouble and materials - please email me
off-list if you can help.
Thanks very much!
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:36:20 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history
From Those Were The Days --
1922 - Variety magazine greeted readers with the front-page headline
that read, "Radio Sweeping Country - 1,000,000 Sets in Use."
1955 - The last broadcast of The Silver Eagle was heard on radio. It was
said to be the last of the adventure stories on the air.
Joe
--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:36:54 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Benny shows 1953
I'd like to add my thoughts on the post 1953 Benny shows.
Over all they are ok, but with Mary recording her lines and having
them inserted they sound really flat. Its as if she were handed a sheet
of paper with only her lines and they are merely "read", not acted out.
There is little (or no) life in her presention. IMO Mary's part could
have been dropped completely without any lost to the program and could
have actually improved the show.
Joe (ducking incoming)
--
Visit my home page:
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:37:12 -0500
From: "joe@[removed]" <sergei01@[removed];
To: "OTR List" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: NBC Recordings at LC
I was just poking around the Library of Congress web site. If you go to
[removed] you will find a page describing
the NBC Radio Collection at that archive. Lots of information. If you have
never visited, it is worth a little of your time.
Joe Salerno
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:28:42 -0500
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: William Shatner
In a message dated 3/9/02 5:03:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
Subject: Re: William Shatner on radio
Glenn Alexander asked
>Does anyone out there know which radio shows he [Shatner] did appear
on?
William Shatner appeared on at least two of the thirteen syndicated
revival shows of "Arch Oboler's Plays" in 1964.
I don't want to be seen as an apologist for Shatner, because I sure am not a
fan of his on TV or on the Priceline commercials. But I just want to inject
this comment. Back in the Fifties or Sixties I saw Shatner in Baltimore live
on stage in "The World of Susie Wong.". He handled the part very well, I
thought, and that was back when I didn't even know who he was.
Spence
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:26 -0500
From: otrbuff@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: A pleasant memory
Our two-year-old granddaughter was visiting in our home and soon went to
a special book we keep readily available for her visits. It's a
battery-powered touch-activated Christmas tune affair -- you touch a
symbol on the side and it plays a specific tune so that as a child her
age turns the pages the tunes are linked with the illustrated stories.
As I often do I was singing the words as our granddaughter activated the
music and she was swaying and clapping her hands in time to the familiar
notes. We went through "Frosty, the Snowman," "Up on a Housetop,"
"Jingle Bells" and several others. Half-way through "Toy Land," a song
whose lyrics, I'm thinking, begin: "Toy Land, Toy Land, Beautiful Girl
and Boy Land . . ." it dawned on me I was actually singing aloud: "Dream
girl, dream girl, beautiful Lustre Cream girl, You owe your shining glory
to a Lustre Cream shampoo." Some things never die. Mr. and Mrs. North,
Our Miss Brooks, Colgate-Palmolive-Peet and their advertising agency
would have cherished the moment!
Jim Cox
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:42 -0500
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Who was it?
I was watching an "I Love Lucy" rerun last night and Lucy was
trying to teach a tall, lanky, bashful, high school boy how to
dance. As soon as he spoke I recognized the voice from some OTR
program, for some reason Corliss Archer came to mind.
Unfortunately they did not show the credits at the end of the
program so I could not get his name. Has anyone else seen this
episode and identify this actor?
Bill
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