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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2004 : Issue 192
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
CD FAILURES [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
When are the Southern Cal otr conven [ Mike Thomas <calvetrecept@[removed] ]
THE BIG SLEEP and SPADE [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
Radio To Comics [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
Re: Cincy Convention [ danhughes@[removed] ]
Robert St. John [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
Radio to Comics [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
The Whistler [ BH <radiobill@[removed]; ]
Why is OTR and Radio History importa [ "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@peop ]
Keaton singing, radio [ "Clifton Martin" <MARTBART@peoplepc ]
6-7 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
A Message Of Interest To The Digest [ David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed] ]
Spade is not Marlowe [ Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed]; ]
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:01:40 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: CD FAILURES
I recently had a CD of otr in mp3 fail so to speak. Th disk in question was
generic brand called DURABRAND which according to NERO Toolkit was burned on
March 25 2002. I have recently used this cd in last six months so I know it
olnly failed [removed] type CD by Durabrand comes with a label pressed
[removed] I can still see a file listing of the CD but I'm unable to access the
files or copy them to my hard disk. I am grateful I stop using Generic brand
cds a long time ago. I just wanted pass this along.
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, OK
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:52:35 -0400
From: Mike Thomas <calvetrecept@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: When are the Southern Cal otr conventions?
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Are there otr conventions in southern cal at any time during the year??? Any
in Anaheim or Long Beach???Thanks!!!
Mike And Ernestine Thomas
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:54:09 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: THE BIG SLEEP and SPADE
Someone wrote:
(Personally, I disagree because Spade was based in San Francisco, and
Cypress Canyon is very clearly set near LA.)
Sam Spade WAS in Los Angles! The novel by Raymond Chandler THE BIG SLEEP.
All or most of the shootings (killings) were in a house in Cypress Canyon.
The Big Sleep is one of my favorites. The movie stared Humphrey Bogart and
L. Bacal. The second Movie, Big Sleep, was filmed in GB and stared Robert
Mitchum and James Stuwart. I should think the version from LA was most
likely broadcast with authorization of the author or and the producer?
Sam Spade first appeared in the novel THE MALTESE FALCON and subsequently in
three short stories written by Dashiel Hammett. The Radio show was adapted
from the characterization in these. Chapter 2 of THE MALTESE FALCON clarly
indicates the setting is San Francisco in several places:
"...Spade paid his fare amd left the taxicab. San francisco's night-fog ,
thin, clammy, and penetrant, blurred the Street." (THE MALTESE FALCON, Taken
from FIVE COMPLETE NOVELS of Dasheil Hammett,, [removed])
THE BIG SLEEP (1939) written by Raymond Chandler featured the other
Detective Philip Marlowe who was set in Los Angelas. The confusion stems
from the fact that the movie version of THE BIG SLEEP has Marlowe being
played by Humphrey Bogart who also played Spade in THE MALTESE FALCON.
However, in the the Howard Hawks film THE BIG SLEEP is easy to see that its
set in [removed] The fact is Spade was San francisco both in the orignal book by
HAMMETT and the Radio [removed] see no reason why just because Spade is based
in San Francisco that he has to stay there on every case. The Philip Marlowe
show starring Gerald Mohr had show where Marlowe stumbles upon Murder while
his car is put into a ditch by Winter storm. He obviously outside of [removed]
There another one where he's forced to drive a crook toward Mexico in
Southern California.
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, OK
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:54:33 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio To Comics
Allen Wilcox asks,
Okay now. For the past several digest there have been disscusions on
comic inspired radio shows. But now lets name shows that were radio
programs and then moved to comics. I will start off by naming three that
I know of. "The Lone Ranger", "The Green Hornet" and "The Saint. Any
others?
Well, depending upon how loosely one accepts transitions, there was
Captain Midnight. The Fawcett comic book, which ran into the 1950s, was
extremely different from the radio program, with the title character as a
costumed superhero who "flew" using membranes from the arms attached the
side of his uniform like unto the gliding surfaces of a Flying Squirrel.
He also had a heat-ray device called as a "doom beam" that projected a
clock face with the hands at 12:00. The radio show was far different
with the hero an aviator who headed a government funded paramilitary
organization.
Anthony Tollin can say more about The Shadow than I, but I believe it was
on the radio before becoming a Street & Smith comic book. The comic
apparently derived from the radio show, because in it, The Shadow was
effectively invisible.
There was a Jack Armstrong comic book, as memory serves. This obviously
derived from the show. I never read that one.
Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:55:00 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Cincy Convention
Jerry, you just missed it--it's in late April every year.
I have several reports and photos on my web site--just scroll down to the
Cincy Convention links:
[removed]~dan/
---Dan
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:55:53 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Robert St. John
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 12:05:47 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
NBC had some excellent radio reporters in Max Jordan, Fred Bate, [removed]
Kaltenborn (formerly CBS), Robert St. John (was anybody aware he lived to
102 years and was a declared pacifist?),
Up until just now, the only thing I knew about him was that he was the author of a biography
of Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion. It did seem rather incongruous to see, in
my high school library, the spine of the book, reading "Ben Gurion by St. John"
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210
lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:55:46 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross"
<lawyer@[removed];
To:
[removed]@[removed]
Subject: Radio to Comics
But now lets name shows that were radio
programs and then moved to comics.
"Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar" A comic book episode of Johnny Dollar was
issued just last year from one of the smaller comics publishers.
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:56:13 -0400
From: BH <radiobill@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: The Whistler
Barbara asked about The Whistler:
Does anybody know who the actor is that portrays the Whistler in the early
CBS shows? As there may be more than one, I'd like to know who plays him in
the months of May and June 1943. It has been speculated that Gale Gordon and
Joseph Kearns were early Whistlers, but I don't believe it is either of them
in these particular broadcasts. Could it be Howard Culver? I've never seen a
suggestion that it is, but it sounds like him.
According to The Big Broadcast by Frank Buxton and Bill Own, Bill Forman
played the part in the original version on CBS with Marvin Miller as the
announcer, and says that Miller played the part for six months while
Forman served in the Army (no dates given). Everett Clarke is also
listed as playing the part. There is no mention of Gale Gordon or Joseph
Kearns as George Aust mentions, so can't comment about that.
Bill H.
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:56:54 -0400
From: "mike kerezman" <PHILIPMARLOWE@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Why is OTR and Radio History important
I just say I've noticed a difference in "Reading ability". I am far from
being an expert, but I have a humble [removed] noticed occassionally a
tendency in newer Radio drama efforts to 'overact' sometimes. I can quite
put my finger on it. I like the drama that BBC still does. I've been
listening to the BBC series of Sherlock Holmes which is quite good and
faithful. However, in one show I listened too recently one supporting actor
appeared this way to me as if they were merely reading their lines or being
overly [removed], Clyde Merrison and Michael Williams, the
leads carried the show quite well. I've also noticed a few times on the CBS
Radio Mystery Theater some melodramatic dialogue in context of male - female
relationships. All this is minor to me however.
One would never have suspected that Mr Dillion was in fact Bill Conrad
reading a marked up John Meston script from the table and wasn't actually
engaged in the fight in the Long Branch but two sound men [removed] one
must be careful to separate in ones mind critiquing the performance and not
purely nostaglizing the Old ones and thereby being overly critical of newer
[removed] for one feel hoever, that the High-Adventure series ESCAPE
(1947-1954) will never be surpassed.
Mike Kerezman
Macomb, Ok
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:22:43 -0400
From: "Clifton Martin" <MARTBART@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Keaton singing, radio
The Damfinos, International Buster Keaton Society, can tell you more about
Buster and everything he did than you would want to know. They have their
annual convention in my
town, Muskegon, Michigan, where Buster had a summer home.
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:22:51 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 6-7 births/deaths
June 7th births
06-07-1891 - Alois Havrilla - Pressov, Hungary - d. 12-7-1952
announcer: "Campbell Soup Orchestra"; "Jack Benny Program"
06-07-1896 - Hope Summer - Mattoon, IL - d. 6-22-1979
actress: Clara "Girl Alone"
06-07-1903 - Glen Gray - Metamora, IL - d. 8-23-1963
bandleader: "Camel Caravan"
06-07-1903 - Joseph Kahn - NYC - d. 9-3-1998
pianist: "Voice of Firestone"; "Story of Mary Marlin"
06-07-1908 - Clarence Straight - d. 6-21-1988
actor: Rags the Dog "Those We Love"
06-07-1909 - Jessica Tandy - London, England - d. 9-11-1994
actress: Liz Marriott "Marriage"; Mildred Rogers "Of Human Bondage"
06-07-1911 - Stanley Unwin - Pretoria, South Africa - d. 1-12-2002
sound engineer, commentator: British Broadcasting Corporation
06-07-1913 - Tom Collins - Chicago, IL - d. 6-17-1973
actor: Chandu "Chandu the Magician"; Nicholas Lacey "One Man's Family"
06-07-1917 - Dean Martin - Steubenville, OH - d. 12-25-1995
singer, comedian: "Martin and Lewis Show"
06-07-1926 - Dick Williams - Wall Lake, IA
singer: (The Williams Brothers) "Bing Crosby Show"
06-07-1934 - Beverly Wills - CA - d. 10-24-1963
actress: Fluffy Adams "Junior Miss"
June 7th deaths
01-03-1898 - Zasu Pitts - Parsons, KS - d. 6-7-1963
comedienne: "Lum and Abner"; "Tommy Riggs and Betty Lou"
01-23-1907 - Dan Duryea - White Plains, NY - d. 6-7-1968
actor: Lou Dana "Man from Homicide"
03-03-1911 - Jean Harlow - Kansas City, MO - d. 6-7-1937
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"
05-30-1906 - Norris Goff - Cove, AR - d. 6-7-1978
actor: Abner Peabody "Lum and Abner"
06-21-1922 - Judy Holliday - NYC - d. 6-7-1965
actress: "Big Show"
08-15-1910 - Signe Hasso - Stockholm, Sweden - d. 6-7-2002
actress: "Charlie McCarthy Show"; "Hollywood Star Time"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
08-22-1893 - Dorothy Parker - West End, NJ - d. 6-7-1967
author, panelist: "Author, Author"; "Information Please"
10-19-1918 - Bob Sweeney - San Francisco, CA - d. 6-7-1992
actor: "Sweeney and March"; "Sara's Private Caper"
--
Ron Sayles
For a complete list:
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:23:30 -0400
From: David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed];
To: "DIGEST, Postings" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A Message Of Interest To The Digest
From: Evelyn Walters <ewaltersfl@[removed];
Subject: audio tapes
To: otrdsiegel@[removed]
Dear Mr. SiegeI
I have forty-eight reels of Lum and Abner in excellent sound. These are on
7"reels and are recorded on 1/4track. This collection was my husbands who
passed away. I would like to offer them for sale to someone who would
enjoy them. I am asking $[removed] per reel, or $[removed] per reel if someone would
like to purchase the entire collection. I also have copies of the Society
newletters and pictures.
Mr. J. Hickerson suggested that I write you. Perhaps you know of someone
who would be interestedin buying them. My name and address is Evelyn
Walters, 141 Chicory Ave. NE, Palm Bay, FL 32907. My e-mail address is
<mailto:ewaltersfl@[removed];ewaltersfl@[removed].
Sincerely,
Evelyn Walter
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 15:49:53 -0400
From: Kermyt Anderson <kermyta@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Spade is not Marlowe
Awful E remarked:
Sam Spade WAS in Los Angles! The novel by Raymond
Chandler THE BIG SLEEP.
Awful is confusing Sam Spade (written by Dashiell
Hammett; first appearance in The Maltese Falcon,
serialized in Black Mask in 1929, before being
reprinted as a stand-alone novel in 1930; Spade later
appeared in 3 short stories) with Philip Marlowe
(written by Raymond Chandler; first appearance in The
Big Sleep in 1939; followed up by six 1/3 novels and a
handful of short stories; three of the novels are
cannibalized from pre-Marlowe pulp stories, and
several of the short stories that were publisbed in
books as Marlowe adventure were originally published
pre-Marlowe, with a different protagonist).
All of the Spade tales are set in San Francisco. All
of the Marlowe stories are set in, or within a day's
drive of, LA. (Two of the novels have siginificant
portions set in nearby Bay City.) I think one of the
pre-Marlowe stories that was re-worked to feature
Marlowe has him flying to Alaska as well. (But my
memory may be misleading me. I'm currently reading the
original version of the stories--they've been
collected together in one giant volume--and the
details of which ones were republished to feature
Marlowe later escape me right now.)
Kermyt
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