Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #256
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 7/8/2002 2:09 PM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 256
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re:what was on the day you were born  [ Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed] ]
  PAL                                   [ John Politis <politisj@[removed] ]
  "Grand Central Station"               [ Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed] ]
  tape print-through and music quality  [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Abbott & Costello 1940 reference?     [ Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed]; ]
  Getting Sirius about OTR              [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  NEW <Drink> JINGLE, revised           [ Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed] ]
  Re: the Old Judge                     [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Re: Buried Alive                      [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed] ]
  NBC Chimes                            [ Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed] ]
  Stirring drama                        [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  Great Gildersleeve or Jack Benny cas  [ Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@ricon ]
  Today in radio history 7/7            [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  RE: Comics to Radio                   [ ""Cynthia \"ChibiBarako\""" < ]
  December Bride on otr!                [ Trinapreston3@[removed] ]
  Oldies But Goodies                    [ Grbmd@[removed] ]
  Hal Stone Photo                       [ danhughes@[removed] ]
  drink of choice during radio days     [ Maxjo@[removed] ]
  Major Richard I Bong, Ace of Aces     [ Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed] ]
  candid mike-camera                    [ Jer51473@[removed] ]
  more NBC chimes                       [ Frank Absher <fabsher@[removed]; ]
  Whistleing Themes                     [ lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed]; ]
  Moxie                                 [ "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@attorneyro ]
  The Olde Tyme Radio Network Weekly S  [ HERITAGE4@[removed] ]
  Today in radio history                [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:48:03 -0400
From: Eric J Cooper <ejcooper2002@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:what was on the day you were born?

Charlie, you made have not wanted to start a new topic thread, when you
mentioned that you were born a few hours before a YTJD episode . But I
thought it might be an interesting, if limited one. So what was on the
radio the night you were born. I'll start--among the programs of August
9, 1956 was the Amos n Andy Music Hall featuring Kim Nova and Part 4 of
'The Alder Matter" on Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar. My answer is based on a
radio log of that date that I only saw once, several years ago. Actually
I only have vague memories of radio dramas and comedies being on when I
was a small fry, no specific show recollections, I just remember that
type of programming was on certain hours of the day.

Eric Cooper

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:49:43 -0400
From: John Politis <politisj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  PAL
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I grew   up in Connecticut and we had the  orange drink called PAL, in
glass bottles.  Haven't thought of  it in years.

John Politis

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:50:11 -0400
From: Dennis W Crow <DCrow3@[removed];
To: OTR Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Grand Central Station"

Irene and Lee talk about the ornate opening of the long running melodrama,
"Grand Central Station."  I participate in Elderhostels at a nearby retreat
center and discuss old radio with the participants.

In the forty or so Elderhostels where I have volunteered in the last few
years, two OTR programs have had their openings recited, word for word,
more frequently than any other.  "Grand Central Station" and "Mr. District
Attorney" have embellished openings that somehow remain within the memory.
Audience  members  will stand up and recite the beautifully written opening
lines of these historic programs  all the time -- at least at half the
events.

The phrase in Ken Carpenter's opening of "One Man's Family" always produces
the biggest laugh.  "Bewildering offspring"  must trigger a different sort
of memory.

Dennis Crow

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:50:42 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  tape print-through and music quality

If you listen to an LP or 45 rpm phonograph record that is in good condition
you can sometimes hear a 'pre-echo' at the beginning of the side and between
cuts.  This results from print-through on the audio tape from which the
phonograph record was copied.

Kinsler Hi-Fi Service once got a call from a customer who had just installed
a fine new magnetic phonograph cartridge (with an elliptical stylus) on his
turntable.  He started hearing strange pre-echoes between cuts, and wanted
to know what was up.  I had to tell him that he had finally upgraded his
equipment to the point where it was better than the phonograph records he
was buying, and that he was hearing tape print-through, and that there
wasn't a thing he could do about it.

Many phonograph records weren't produced with as much craftsmanship as might
be desired: they were capable of very fine fidelity, but many record firms
were careless in their recording and manufacturing techniques.

The quality of music reproduction from CD's played over both AM and FM radio
is thoroughly amazing to those of us who listened through the late '40's
through the '70's.

M Kinsler
512 E Mulberry St. Lancaster, Ohio USA 740 687 6368
[removed]~kinsler

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:50:53 -0400
From: Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Abbott & Costello 1940 reference?

     I ran across the phrase "my warriors have been B-A-A-A-D boys" in
a 1940 comic strip. Would this be a reference to Lou Costello's "I've
been a B-A-A-A-D boy" tagline I've heard in some A & C radio skits
from later in the 1940s?  When did A & C  debut on the radio, anyway?

best --  Merlin Haas

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:51:13 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Getting Sirius about OTR

On July 1, Sirius Satellite Radio kicked off its 100-channel service of
60 commercial-free music channels and 40 news, sports and entertainment
channels -- including OTR. MediaBay is one of the Sirius partners. Click
on [removed] to listen to Sirius live, or to find a Sirius
retailer.

To get to the OTR channel, click on "listen," "entertainment" and "Radio
Classics":
[removed];c=Page&ci
d=1019257316797

Good 7/5 CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR article on satellite radio: "Will
Americans pay to turn on the radio?":
[removed]

"According to Radio & Record, an industry trade magazine, a
PriceWaterhouseCoopers study says satellite radio will have 5 million
subscribers paying $630 million in subscriptions by 2006."

Bhob @ SHOWBIZ @ [removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:51:52 -0400
From: Herb Harrison <herbop@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  NEW <Drink> JINGLE, revised

From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
Pepsi-Cola hits the spot
Buy it by the case, a lot
Fill your bathtub to the brim
Combine your drinking with a swim

STOLI VODKA hits the spot
Buy it by the case, a lot
Fill your bathtub to the brim
Combine your drinking with a swim
* *************************************
(Sorry - couldn't resist.)

Herb Harrison

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:52:34 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re:  the Old Judge

From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
I'm looking urgently for corroboration on a bit of Louisville folklore.
It's said a nice fellow passed through town in 1926 with what the locals
thought was a silly [removed]"Old Judge"..and proposed a Saturday night
barn dance-type show.  The snooty station managers reportedly felt this
was FAR beneath their dignity, and the nice man went south to Nashville
--and put the Grand Ole Opry on the air! This story is widely believed
here in Kentucky, but I can't find any documentation of it.   Chris

It couldn't have been 1926, because George D. Hay, The Solemn Old Judge,
had already started the WLS Barn Dance in 1924 in Chicago.  When WSM
Nashville signed on in the fall of 1925 they invited many famous
announcers from other cities to the opening broadcast.  Then they stole
Hay away from WLS, and Hay began another barn dance series on WSM which
eventually was renamed the Grand Ole Opry.  Meanwhile up in Chicago, Hay
was replaced on the WLS Barn Dance by a good friend of mine, the late
Steve Cisler.  Steve lived in Louisville for many years, and quite
possibly this story came from him.  It is just possible that Hay had
pitched his ideas to Louisville stations, but it would have been back in
1923 or 24, not 26.  I never got to do a full oral history with Steve
because I thought he had already done one with the Broadcast Pioneers
Library.  But I do have the tape of a session he did with my Broadcast
History class back in the 80s, and maybe he might mention this on
there.  I'll try to check.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:52:52 -0400
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Buried Alive

 John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; posted:
To: [removed]@[removed]

We have to take such family stories with a grain of salt, of course, but this
does suggest that the "buried alive" stories on Suspense and Alfred Hitchcock
were not without some basis.

This reminds me of the story of a lady who fell into a catatonic
state and was presumed dead. At the funeral, just before closing
the casket a friend place a rose beside the "deceased". One of the
thorns pricked her arm and she came out of her state and was fine.
A few years later she did indeed pass on and her husband requested
that there be no roses at the funeral. ;>)

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:53:16 -0400
From: Bill Harris <radioguy@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  NBC Chimes

"A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed]; wonders:

Electronically programmed?  In those days?  I'd love to know more about how
they did it!

The NBC chimes machine could be operated either manually or
automatically by clock (Telechron).

Bill Harris

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:53:39 -0400
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Stirring drama

This is a 7/5 FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM story about the Texas Radio
Theatre: [removed]

To "bring back the art of radio drama," the group performs vintage radio
scripts on Sunday evenings in an Arlington, Texas coffeehouse, The
Coffee Haus.

Bhob @ FUSEBOX @ [removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:53:51 -0400
From: Chris & Carla White <cncwhite@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Great Gildersleeve or Jack Benny cassettes

Hi,

I recently met a 60 year old man who listened to several old time radio
programs with me. As he listened he said that all the memories of his
childhood started to come back to him. He especially remembers listening to
The Great Gildersleeve and The Jack Benny Program. I decided to start
looking for some of these shows on cassettes to give to him. If anyone
knows where I can get these shows on cassettes with affordable prices
please let me know.

                                                             Thanks,
                                                             Bryant White

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:53:56 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history 7/7

  From Those Were The Days --

1943 - For the first time, Flashgun Casey was heard on radio. Not much
later, the name of the program was altered to Casey, Crime Reporter, and
became much more popular.

1949 - Dragnet was first heard on NBC, starring Jack Webb.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:54:34 -0400
From: ""Cynthia \"ChibiBarako\""" <cvc@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  RE: Comics to Radio

Ron Sayles asked how many newspaper comic strips survive that had radio
shows based on them.  Well, looking at this morning's Chicago Tribune,
we have:

For Better or For Worse (nope, less than 20 years old!)
Dick Tracy (probably but I don't know for sure)
Zits (nope, less than 5 years old)
Dilbert (nope, less than 10 years old but it did have a short-lived TV
show)
Shoe (nope, less than 20 years old)
Doonesbury (nope, Vietnam War era)
The Boondocks (you've got to be kidding, less than 5 years old)
Out of the Gene Pool (in the Trib for less than 2 years)
The Fusco Brothers (in the Trib for less than 2 years)
Pluggers (less than 5 years old and one panel)
Bound & Gagged (less than 5 years old)
Hi and Lois (pretty sure not, but isn't there a connection to ...)
Blondie (yes)
Non Sequitur (less than 10 years old)
Baby Blues (IIRC just celebrated 20 years)
Get Fuzzy (less than 10 years old)
The Buckets (less than 20 years old)
Broom Hilda (don't believe so, think it's after 1960)
Cathy (nope, early '70s)
The Lockhorns (nope unless you count common ancestors like the
Bickersons)
Brenda Starr (maybe)
Mother Goose & Grimm (nope, mid-seventies)
Peanuts (nope but numerous TV specials)
Mutts (nope, early '80s)
Foxtrot (nope, about 20 years old)
Agnes (nope, about 10 years old)
Professor Doodles (kid panel)
Spots (kid panel about 10 years old)
Hagar the Horrible (nope, about 30 years old)
Sherman's Lagoon (nope, after 1970)
Mister Boffo (nope, about 20 years old)

The Trib did carry Little Orphan Annie and once (and Prince Valiant,
years ago) and probably others (did Beetle Bailey ever have a radio
show?) . .  . but as artists died or retired, and the strips were "not
getting enough market", they were dropped in favor of "more popular
strips".  (So we get the Boondocks. Yippee.  :-P)

I then checked my local suburban paper (I take the Trib for the national
and world news and the Herald for the local news) and found only Family
Circus and BC that are even close to being the right age (I think they
both date from the '60s though).  However, Crankshaft has contained OTR
references ... (if you can get your hands on a Crankshaft collection
you'll find lots of references to familiar stuff as Crankshaft the bus
driver is a former minor-league baseball player of a certain age that
"remembers when" . . .)

Hope I haven't bored everybody ...

Cynthia

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:54:48 -0400
From: Trinapreston3@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  December Bride on otr!
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Is it true that there is only three radio episodes of the comedy "December
Bride"?  I
read that the show came on radio before television and became successful on
TV.
The question I really have is, if this show ran on radio form 1952-1953
shouldn't be
more than three shows in circulation?

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:00:44 -0400
From: Grbmd@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Oldies But Goodies

Tim wrote:

I've lived in Ohio most of my life, so I had never heard of True-Ade
before reading your post.  But thinking on it, .A Statler Brothers song, "Do
You Remember These?"..Has the Line."Hit Parade Grape True Ade Sadie Hawkins
Dance"..I thought for for a long time they were saying Kool [removed] members
of the [removed] and Don Reid, Phil Balsley and Jimmy Fortune, as well
as the late Lew DeWitt were all from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and
grew up through the 1950's. Most of their songs have to do with nostalgia
and days gone by.  One of the most awarded groups in music history.(I'm a
fan in case you can't tell)

I too am a Staler Brothers fan, and I think this song is one of the best
nostalgia songs I've ever heard.  It touches almost every base in recalling
the Forties and maybe the Fifties.

Another oldie they do is "Whatever Happened to Randolph Scott."  That's fun
too.

Spence

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:00:59 -0400
From: danhughes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Hal Stone Photo

I finally got around to posting some photos from the spring Cincinnati
photo, and for those of you who have not had the opportunity to meet Hal
Stone in person, there's a nice shot of him on the KAREN GETS HUGGED page
on my web site:

[removed]~dan

That's the main page; look for the KAREN GETS HUGGED link there.  Also a
nice shot of Bob Hastings there.  And can somebody tell me
Hal-who-sells-western-stuff's last name?  Thanks!

---Dan

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:01:09 -0400
From: Maxjo@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  drink of choice during radio days

people , you can have your coke & [removed] my younger days the drink
for me was delaware punch with an occasional cream soda for a change of
[removed],all i can stand now is a diet coke.
max salathiel
del city oklahoma

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:02:42 -0400
From: Doug Berryhill <fibbermac@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Major Richard I Bong, Ace of Aces

Major Richard I. Bong, "Ace of Aces".

No, this wasn't a radio program, but an actual WWII
flying ace in the South Pacific. In fact he was the
highest scoring ace in American history. I was
recently at his memorial museum in his hometown of
Poplar, Wisconsin. Among the artifacts on display was
a photo of Maj. Bong doing a radio broadcast along
side of Bing Crosby. I'm interested in locating a
recording of that program and donating it to the
museum.

Here's all I know: the picture is dated 1945. It shows
Bong and Bing (sorry, I just had to say that) standing
in front of radio microphones in an outdoor setting.
The backdrop appears to have "Los Angeles" spelled out
in large letters. I'm guessing that this was a show
broadcast from some type of military camp or
installation in or near LA. Anybody out there have a
clue about which program this might have been or where
I could get my hands on the recording?

Regards-

FIBBERMAC

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:02:51 -0400
From: Jer51473@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  candid mike-camera

 I seem to recall candid camera being in the movies as a short before
television, of course candid microphone was on the radio. Can anyone
elaborate or does anyone remember seeing the movie shorts, with allen funt of
course?

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:05 -0400
From: Frank Absher <fabsher@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  more NBC chimes

>From "Radio and Entertainment" magazine - St. Louis 10/2/32:
"NBC Chimes Replaced"
    "The NBC chimes, which for years have had the important task of keeping
the far flung networks in synchronization have changed their tone. An
automatic electrical level has replaced the familiar hand struck chimes on
all programs emanating from the NBC New York studios."

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:16 -0400
From: lynn wagar <philcolynn@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Whistleing Themes

Hello Everyone,

     I have recently been enjoying some Maisie shows.
In the opening theme there is whistleing.  I was
wondering what other otr shows have whislteing in the
opening?  The Whistler is a given.

My Thanks!!!   Lynn

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:38 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <lawyer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Moxie

Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:28:35 -0400
From: "George Tirebiter" <tirebiter2@[removed];

I'm surprised that someone utterly unrelated to the soft drink has the
[removed] URL and that the Moxie folks don't do anything about it.

Unfortunately, Moxie seems to be a dying company, shrinking its distribution area, etc.  
Which is a shame.  While they've added a diet version of their beverage, they've never added 
caffeine-free versions.  I've always liked Moxie, ever since I first tried it, when I was about 12 
years old.  But I'm less tolerant of caffeine than I used to be, so I can't drink Moxie as much 
as I'd like to any more.

A. Joseph Ross, [removed]                           [removed]
 15 Court Square, Suite 210                 lawyer@[removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503           	         [removed]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:43 -0400
From: HERITAGE4@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Olde Tyme Radio Network Weekly Schedule

Here's whats on this week - high-end streaming audio 24/7
Starts:  Sunday, July 7th,  for one week at:  [removed]

SAME TIME, SAME STATION with Jerry Haendiges
1. Jerry does a special commentary on Melinda & Larry Gassman's wedding.
Larry
was a former host of Same Time, Same Station.
2. RED SKELTON -  Red's commentary on The Pledge of Allegiance - especially
interesting in light of recent court ruling.
3. MURDER AT MIDNIGHT - 11/11/46   "Nightmare"
4. DEADLINE FOR DANGER  - Episode 31 -  "The Train Mystery"
5. THE DORIS DAY SHOW  - 11/25/52  - Guest:  Kirk Douglas
6. THE CASS DALEY SHOW - 8/18/44 -  Guests: Diana Lynn, Wally Brown
and Alan Carney.

HERITAGE RADIO THEATRE with Tom Heathwood
1. THE GREEN HORNET   NBC - 11/23/39   "The Smuggler Signs His Name"
2. DRAGNET    NBC    3/22/55     "The Big Talk"   with Jack Webb
3. BOB & RAY -   NBC  08/01/51      Features:  "Jack Headstrong"

Enjoy --     Tom & Jerry

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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:03:48 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Today in radio history

  From Those Were The Days --

1950 - Joel McCrea appeared in the lead role of Tales of the Texas
Rangers. The soon-to-be-popular show debuted on NBC.

  Joe

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Visit my home page:
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