Subject: [removed] Digest V2002 #21
From: "OldRadio Mailing Lists" <[removed]@[removed];
Date: 1/21/2002 5:50 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2002 : Issue 21
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Suspense flood on binaries            [ "Larry Moore" <lmoore@[removed]; ]
  Re: Godfrey, Tea and Kazan            [ "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail ]
  Lone Ranger Cheerios Offer            [ "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@anchorwall. ]
  Today in OTR history                  [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  Mp3 Files                             [ "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed]; ]
  Vintage Microphones                   [ sojax@[removed] (Roger S. Smith) ]
  A "lord of the rings" question        [ "Marcus Antonsson" <[removed] ]
  NO WIRE HANGERS!!                     [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Re: LIncoln Highway                   [ OTRDSIEGEL@[removed] ]
  Wholesome Fare at Archie?             [ "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@ ]
  Re: Arthur Godfrey/FDR                [ Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed]; ]
  Ladies Be Seated                      [ "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed] ]
  re: Lincoln Highway                   [ Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed]; ]
  Suspense picks                        [ "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@neb. ]
  Lincoln Highway                       [ wa5pdk@[removed] ([removed] L.) ]
  Re: MP3 Files                         [ Ed Foster <erfoster@[removed]; ]
  Mp3 cd Boombox                        [ ilamfan@[removed] ]
  Today OTR history                     [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
  godfrey on ICHIN                      [ Michael Berger <makiju@[removed]; ]
  OTR files in newsgroups               [ "Frank Phillips" <frankphi@hotmail. ]
  Jack Benny Web Page                   [ Dennis DeMarco <dennisdm@earthlink. ]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:57:33 -0500
From: "Larry Moore" <lmoore@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Suspense flood on binaries

For those who frequent the the newsgroups
[removed],
[removed],
and [removed]
is starting a flood of most of the episodes.  1945 is up now.

Larry Moore

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:58:12 -0500
From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Godfrey, Tea and Kazan

Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; writes:

The Lipton's Tea/Godfrey connection to Elia Kazan and A FACE IN THE
CROWD (1957) is not generally known. I wrote an article about this a few
years ago: [removed]

If Schulberg and Kazan indeed did base Lonesome Rhodes on Godfrey, they did
the Redhead a vast disservice. Orson Welles admitted doing something similar
to Marion Davies with the Susan Alexander character in CITIZEN KANE, but at
least he admitted it was a disservice, whereas Kazan has been generally
arrogant about his own misconduct during the Fifties. While Godfrey may have
been ornery on more than his share of occasions, I've never once heard
anything to suggest he had the kind of contempt for the audience that
becomes Lonesome Rhodes' undoing in A FACE IN THE CROWD. But, of course,
Kazan sold out people he knew on a first-name basis to HUAC in order to get
hundreds of thousands of dollars and a Warner Brothers contract, so why
should it surprise that he'd malign the reputation of someone he DIDN'T
know?

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:58:39 -0500
From: "Ron Vickery" <RVICKERY@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lone Ranger Cheerios Offer

Hi all - I, like some others on this list, have not had any luck in
tracking down the Lone Ranger Cheerios promo.  I finally decided to
e-mail the General Mills Customer Service center.  Their response was:

Dear Ron,
Thank you for writing. Beginning Friday, January 18th, General Mills
will offer the Cheerios Lone Ranger offer for online orders only.
Simply click here <[removed]; and then
click on the "Big G Cereals" drop down box.
We appreciate your interest in Cheerios!
Sincerely,
Cheryl
I checked out the site and you have two options for purchase.  The first
is an entire case (7 packs) for $[removed], which comes out to $[removed] per
pack.  The second option is two packs for $[removed]  I ordered the
two-pack and they charged me $[removed] for shipping (total $[removed]).
Just thought I'd let the list know.
Ron V.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:59:14 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in OTR history

  From Those Were The Days --

1954 - The National Negro Network was formed on this date. Some 40 radio
stations were charter members of the network.
  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:59:32 -0500
From: "S Skuse" <sskuse@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mp3 Files

In digest #19 daveclea wrote -

I located the Newsgroup "[removed]" and
found a number of apparent MP3 files which display as "corrupted"
text.  I cannot find a way to access these files with my "Real
Audio" MP3 player.

These files are newsgroup files, and to access them you need a newsreader
program.

Try the program APicViewer, which is available to download free at
[removed] (the program requires Windows 95, 98
or ME). When it's running, it gives you step-by-step instructions on your
screen, so it's easy to use.

You have to tell the program your isp's news server, which will have an
address something like: [removed]

Outlook Express (the newsreader program that comes with Windows 95/98/ME) is
complicated, and not the best choice if you're not familiar with newsgroups.

Sandra Skuse
[removed]
Fan of English OTR comedian, Jimmy Clitheroe

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:59:51 -0500
From: sojax@[removed] (Roger S. Smith)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Vintage Microphones

In answer to Les Rayburn's post on Friday about obtaining an RCA
microphone.  You better have many bills in your wallet Les, as these
items are VERY expensive.  A quick look on Ebay will give you an idea.
I finally had to settle for a Electro Voice ribbon mic but that cost me
$[removed]  Lots of luck Les. Roger

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:05 -0500
From: "Marcus Antonsson" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: A "lord of the rings" question

Hi Gang,
Long time no see! Hope you're all doing well. A friend of mine is currently
doing some research on the lord of the rings and it's various radio versions.
He recently asked me if I knew who played the role of Gandalf in the
production made by the Mind's eye company. I don't, so I'm asking you guys
instead. We'll be very grateful if you can help us with this.

Best to all!

Marc Antonsson

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:26 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: NO WIRE HANGERS!!

From:  Craig Wichman  Wich2@[removed]   Subject: Godfrey (&c.)
So, it is not at all strange in human nature to find Jolson
gifted/miserable, Cohen charming/wife beating, Godfrey warm/despised, etc.

Don't forget Der Bingle whose motto with his first flock of kids was
"Spare the rod and spoil the child."  Apparently he wore out quite a few
rods on those kids.  Rumor has it that he had reformed when he had the
second group of kids.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:35 -0500
From: OTRDSIEGEL@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re:  LIncoln Highway

   In response to a posting, at least two half hour episodes of LINCOLN
HIGHWAY are in circulation as follows:
A) Betty Barnes: 8/2/41 (Una Merkle)
B) Aviatrix Triangle: 2/14/42 (Mary Astor & George Murphy)
    I have copies of both in my collection.
     Dave Siegel

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:01:06 -0500
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Wholesome Fare at Archie?

Hal (Jughead) Stone, responding to Ian Grieve, speaking of preventing
"unwholesome" activity on Archie, notes, anent his book,

Hey there, you awesome Aussie. Not to worry. If necessary, I'll prepare
two versions of the book. One, nothing but "wholesome" fare, and boring
as hell. The other, laced will all sorts of sexually explicit material.
:)

The late H. Allen Smith, author of many humorous text, noted that there
were "unexpurgated" books and "expurgated" books.  He told someone that
he could get a "purgated" book.  This latter book type was one where the
author would write additional dirty passages in the margins.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:02:14 -0500
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Arthur Godfrey/FDR

From: chris chandler <chrischandler84@[removed];
HOW do we know the clip of . . . Arthur Godfrey description of the
FDR funeral cortege . . . is any more authentic than anything else
on the "I Can Hear It Now" album? . . . Anybody's who's curious might
take a listen and see how suspicious this clip sounds in light of
what we all now know about some of the rest of the "actualities"
on the album.      Chris

It is the third album covering the earlier years (1919-1933) that
contains mostly phony material, but you are also correct that we can't
fully trust Volume I (1933-1945) either.  We already know that Bob
Trout's end of the war announcement is faked, and happily Trout had a
chance to admit it publicly on NPR.  Furthermore, Godfrey appears on
Volume III asking Marge for a crossword puzzle answer during the roaring
20s.  But the surface noise on the FDR funeral recording is not the type
of noise they faked on Vol III, and when they did the fake Trout
recording on Volume I they didn't add any fake surface noise.

I'm looking at the inventory of the CBS News NY collection of aircheck
discs which seems to be the source of the ICHIN clips.  (This is NOT the
KIRO collection, which was not available for the albums.)  CBS recorded
246 disc sides concerning the FDR Death between April 12 and 15, but the
list does not give the exact times for most of these discs and no
content information for any of these.  There are a few discs noted as
either broken or missing as of the 1960s when this inventory was made.
So, the Godfrey recording was probably there for their use in 1948, but
whether it is there now is anybody's guess.  As far as I know the Museum
of Television and Radio has not seemed to be interested in preserving
important materials like this--which might have a positive side because
they probably would have broken all of the rest of the discs if they had
taken 'em to dub.  By the way, most of April 1945 is missing from the
KIRO collection, and it doesn't appear that there is anything there with
the Washington DC portion of the procession.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:03:42 -0500
From: "Russ Butler" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Ladies Be Seated

What was the name of the host on "Ladies Be Seated," an afternoon, live, ABC
network broadcast with mostly ladies in the audience in the mid-1940's?
Maybe Tom Brenneman?  Tommy Bartlett?  And did it originate in Chicago?  It
was a lot like many of the other live audience shows then ("Breakfast Club,"
"House Party," "Queen For A Day," "Breakfast at Sardi's," etc.)  Any
airchecks of these daytime shows?  Thanks.

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:03:32 -0500
From: Gerry Wright <gdwright@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: re: Lincoln Highway

Frank Passage's posted the following query:

I received the following query from Carol Ruth <bluhyws@[removed];:

I was looking at your log page while in search of whether there was
such a thing as a Lincoln Highway Radio Show or whether any show
had a Lincoln Highway theme song?

- ---------

>From John Dunning's On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio.

Lincoln Highway, dramatic anthology.
Broadcast history: March 16, 1940 - June 6, 1942
NBC, 30 min. Saturdays, 1940-41 at 10:00 am; 1941-42 at 11:00 am
Sponsor: Shinola Shoe Polish

Top stars of Broadway and Hollywood including Ethel Barrymore, Joe E.
Brown, Harry Carey, Claude Rains, ...

Host-Announcer: John McIntire
Directors: Don Cope, Theodora Yates, Maurice Lowell
Writers: Jack Hasty, Brian Byrne, Ed Sherry

"Lincoln Highway" offered the kind of dramatic stories usually reserved
for prime time, and thus began a trend toward quality programming on
Saturday mornings. The stories were of people scattered along the
3,000-mile length of [removed] Route 30, which stretched from Philadelphia to
Portland and was popularly known as the Lincoln Highway.
- -----

A search of my miscellaneous collection of logs shows that at least one
collector had an episode from August 2, 1941, with Betsy Barnes,
Fletcher Markle, Kenny Delmar, and Minerva Pious.

Gerry Wright
ZoneZebra Productions
San Francisco

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:04:19 -0500
From: "Ryan Osentowski" <rosentowski@[removed];
To: "old time radio" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Suspense picks

Hello all:
I have recently downloaded some Suspense episodes from Audio Galaxy and it
has inspired me.  I wanted to take a minute to list some of my personal
faves from this series.  I will admit that I have stated on this digest in
the past that I feel Suspense is a bit over-rated.  I always felt it was
driven more by star power than actual good writing.  I always felt that
Escape was a better radio program.  However, when Suspense is good, its
*really* good!  So here are some recommendations from me, the man who is not
an expert, but enjoys listening.

1.  "The Hitch-hiker"-  This is just a really cool ghost story, that doesn't
come off as too cornie.  Orson Welles really does a good job of drawing us
into the character.  His performance, combined with the eerie music and the
lonely atmosphere of the story, makes it a real chiller.  I always felt this
piece of writing by Lucile Fletcher was much better than her more famous
work, "Sorry, Wrong Number."

2.  "Til Death do us Part"-  This episode about a professor who plots to
kill his wife, stars Peter Lore.  The guy is naturally creepy and I think
this is my favorite Suspense story he appears in.

3.  "The House in Cypress Canyon"-  Another Suspense story with a touch of
the supernatural.  The sound of the creature howling is enough to freeze
your blood.

4.  "Drive-in"-  I recently heard the Judy Garland version and prefer it to
the version starring Nancy Kelly.  Suspense did quite a few episodes with
the common theme of the helpless girl being held captive by a psychotic mad
man.  But there was something about the way this character was written,
brought to life by the talented Elliott Lewis, that really gave this
character something.  Judy Garland did a great job.  Its a shame that she
didn't appear in more shows.

5.  "The Defense Rests"-  I love good courtroom dramas and this one had a
good twist ending.

6.  "Too Little to Live On"-  This episode is actually quite depressing and
it has a sad ending, but its good drama.  Ozie and Harriet have great
chemistry and their dramatic acting really made this work.

7.  "A Little Piece of Rope"-  Again, I love the twist ending in this one.

8.  "Consequence"-  Jimmy Stewart is one of my favorite actors of all time.
This is my favorite Suspense program in which he appears.  He also stated a
universal truth in this one.  "They say men are weak and never know it.  But
when you lose the woman you think you love, that's when you find out."

8.  "Death Has a Shadow"-  Bob Hope is actually very good in his dramatic
role.  My favorite scene int his comes when we hear a gunshot and Bob Hope's
character thinks he is shot, but he's not actually shot.  He gives a groan
of pain, which suddenly turns to surprise when he realizes that he's not
hit.

9.  "For Love or Murder"-  The music in this one is grand and Mickey Rooney
does a great job, particularly when he's beating a guy to death with a gun.


10.  "A Murderous Revision"-  This story was actually done twice on
Suspense, under two different titles.  The other one was, "Murder on Mike,"
with Raymond Burr.  I am a big fan of Mr. Burr, but I thought Richard
Widmark did a better job of capturing the feel of the writer being driven to
murder by his own inner demons.  It was that subtle portrayal that made the
story for me, although the ending was a bit predictable.  I also found it to
be a fascinating sociological discussion that took place between Widmark and
Kathy Lewis, pondering the question of why people kill

11.  "A Vision of Death"-  I love Ronald Coalman's voice and this one was
another great ending that I didn't see coming.

12.  "Study of a Murderer"-  For those who think William Conrad is only a
mediocre actor, check this one out.  Hearing Mr. Conrad turn psychotic is
compelling.  Its also another interesting look at how society viewed
psychology during the 50's.

And there you have it, [removed] than you wanted to know from RyanO.  I
apologize for any actor names I misspelled.
RyanO.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:04:30 -0500
From: wa5pdk@[removed] ([removed] L.)
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Lincoln Highway

There was a program many years ago with a song, "Hi there,
[removed] my [removed]'m headed west on the Lincoln
[removed] there, Yankee, give out with a big ol' [removed] in
God's country now."
That's the way I recall [removed] years later.~Ralph

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:05:09 -0500
From: Ed Foster <erfoster@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: MP3 Files

"daveclea" <daveclea@[removed]; asked:

At the suggestion of our ListMaster I located the Newsgroup
"[removed]" and found a number of apparent MP3 files
which display as "corrupted" text.  I cannot find a way to access these
files with my "Real Audio" MP3 player.
Any ideas?

You probably asked your newsreader to "save" the file you wanted.
You have to ask it to "decode binaries" or something like that.  The
exact command and where you find it depends on your newsreader.  For
MT-newswatcher (A Mac newsreader) it's under "News" in the menu bar
and is "Extract [removed]"  Poke around the menu in your newsreader
and you should find the appropriate command.
--
Ed Foster
erfoster@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:05:22 -0500
From: ilamfan@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed] (OTR Bulletin Board)
Subject: Mp3 cd Boombox

     I just bought myself a little boombox for listening
to my OTR shows on mp3 cd.  The Philips AZ1155 is a very
nice little unit, which seems to be able to play every
single mp3 cd I've got.  It also plays standard audio
cd's, and has a digital AM/FM tuner with 30 station
presets.  There's also an "UltraBass" feature, which
really helps with some of the "thin" audio on a lot of
OTR.  Another really nice item on this unit is the
REMOTE CONTROL - very nice to just click a button right
here where I'm sitting, rather than actually get up off
my lazy butt!
     The only thing that I can really pick on is that
the full filenames don't show up in the display: just
the number of folders, and the track number.  But still,
a pretty small nitpick.
     I used to connect my RioVolt up to my tape player
boombox, playing with a cassette adapter (like I do in
the car).  Now this unit has made that clumsy
arrangement obsolete!  I listen to OTR anywhere in the
house, when I cook or clean or do anything.
     I paid about $120 for it, and since most mp3 cd
portable players are around $100, this is a pretty good
bargain.
     I've heard about a SONY mp3 cd boombox that also
incorporates a cassette, but I haven't seen any for sale
in the stores near me.
     Now I'm just waiting for a stand-alone home stereo
[removed]'m keeping my fingers crossed!



Stephen Jansen

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:05:27 -0500
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otr-net <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today OTR history

  From Those Were The Days --

1927 - The first opera to be broadcast over a national radio network was
presented in Chicago, IL. Listeners heard selections from Faust.

1946 - The Fat Man debuted on ABC. J. Scott Smart, who played the portly
detective, weighed in at 270 pounds in real life.

  Joe

--
Visit my home page:
[removed]~[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:01:20 -0500
From: Michael Berger <makiju@[removed];
To: otr <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: godfrey on ICHIN

Listening again this evening to the Godfrey segment on the
Murrow-Friendly disc, it sounds "live", because his
description matches the background sounds, but there does
seem to be a jump cut in the middle of the segment. Here's
the segment from Vol 1, I Can Hear It Now [1932-45]:

[drum beats in [removed]]

"The drums are wrapped in black crepe, and are muffled, as
you can hear, and the pace of the musicians is sooo
[removed] behind them, these are Navy [removed]"

At this point, there seems to be a jump cut because the
drum beats suddenly are gone and he's saying:

"And now, just coming past the Treasury, I can see the
horses drawing the [removed] most generally, folks
havin' as tough a time as I am, tryin' to see [removed]
behind it, behind it, is the car bearing the man on whose
shoulders now falls the terrific burdens and
responsibilities that were handled [his voice begins to
quaver] so well by the man to whose body we're paying our
last respects [removed] bless him, President [removed]
return you now to the [removed]"

Despite the cut, this seems to be an accurate reflection of
Godfrey's report on that April day in Washington.

Michael Berger

= ====
Please reply to: intercom1@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:22:43 -0500
From: "Frank Phillips" <frankphi@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: OTR files in newsgroups

I used to download the files from that newsgroup. They must be saved using a
newsreader such as NewsShark and then they can be played.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:45:19 -0500
From: Dennis DeMarco <dennisdm@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Jack Benny Web Page

Hello all,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I have updated my Jack Benny web
page. The site has been around since 1999 and features bios, pictures, and
autographs of Jack and his crew.

It can be reached at: [removed]

Please be sure to sign my guestbook.

Thanks,

Dennis

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