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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2003 : Issue 294
A Part of the [removed]!
ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Bob Hope [ PFornatar@[removed] ]
Tarzan and the Diamond of Asher [ Chip Melsh <chip20877@[removed]; ]
KCRG -- [removed] [ Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed]; ]
Mourning for Bob Hope? [ Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed]; ]
no Hope [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
Bob Hope and NBC [ revelation206jm@[removed] ]
Biography in Sound [ "michael Simon" <[removed]@wor ]
Information, Please [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Re:More call letters [ Tedshumaker@[removed] ]
Bob Hope & KPOJ [ "Charles L. Prescott" <charlypresco ]
ANNOUNCERS [ gsgreg@[removed] ]
Bob Hope [ "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed] ]
DAN SEYMOUR [ gsgreg@[removed] ]
Re: Bob Hope remembered [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
Bob Hope [ erest@[removed] ]
I never left home [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
Bob Hope [ "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed]; ]
call letters [ "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed]; ]
recordings revisited [ "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@hotmail. ]
Tex McCrary Obituary [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
Today in radio history [ Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed] ]
Dan Seymour [ Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed] ]
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:31:52 -0400
From: PFornatar@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bob Hope
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I grew up with Bob Hope and I grew old with Bob Hope. As I grew older I
liked him less for some reason. I thought his movies were wonderful and his TV
appearances on other people's shows was fine. I have many of his shows and
find
them topical. I met Bob once in a backstage visit of an extravaganza at
Hollywood Bowl circa 1950. He was not flippant but quite nice to us kids.
Early on, when we were young kids we listened to him because he could be
quite racy in a Mae West way. I remember a night when he told someone on the
show," This eight year old girl swallowed a pin and didn't feel the prick
until
she was eighteen." Of course, it was the talk at school. Anyone remember that
line.
Paul Fornatar
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:17:33 -0400
From: Chip Melsh <chip20877@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Tarzan and the Diamond of Asher
Could someone give me any information on Tarzan and
the diamond of Asher?
Hi Bill,
Try this link.
[removed]
It seems to have what you're looking for.
Chip
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:42:40 -0400
From: Sandy Singer <sinatradj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: KCRG -- [removed]
I worked for this station -- Cedar Rapids Gazette
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:43:08 -0400
From: Ed Kindred <kindred@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mourning for Bob Hope?
I did not mourn the announcement of the death of Bob Hope the other day. I
mourned when I saw him in a commercial where
he was seated in a diner, stone deaf, blank look on his face and dealing
with an actress/waitress who probably had no idea
of the background of the old dude at the table. I rejoice in the legacy he
has left in his body of radio, movie and TV work. I have
enjoyed his work from 1946 when I was nine years old. You did not have to
be old or mature to enjoy Bob Hope. He has been
one of God's incredible gifts to us. I thoroughly enjoyed A&E's running a
two hour biography monday night in place of the scheduled
Dr. Phil.
Well done good and faithful servant.
Ed
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:43:27 -0400
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: no Hope
In 1972 I was in a small cafe in British Columbia and saw a hand lettered
sign on the wall, it said: You Americans have Richard Nixon, Johnny Cash
and Bob Hope. We Canadians have Pierre Trudeau, little Cash and no [removed]
Well, it seemed funny at the time.
Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:43:57 -0400
From: revelation206jm@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bob Hope and NBC
In defense of NBC (I'm just a peon with no NBC or other broadcasting
affiliation), I think there probably will be a Bob Hope tribute special
sometime in the near future. Personally, I don't think it necessary to
tribute Mr. Hope the very same day he died or shortly thereafter. Some people
are actually offended by canned obituaries of the media. When a celebity
reaches a certain age newspapers, TV news, etc. file away a tribute for use
when the day of the celebrities passing arrives. I don't find this offensive
myself. Anyway, I see no need for the big rush. Maybe his family should be
given some more time to mourn, and then they could be included in any
upcoming NBC tribute.
Also, I was moved by the two minute tribute on NBC at the start of prime
time broadcasting. Furthermore, I thought there was a considerable amount of
news coverage by much of the media. I was moved by the affection for Mr. Hope.
Like many, I will miss him. As a veteran, I greatly appreciate his
efforts to entertain the US military forces over the decades. I'll see in in
Paradise Mr. Hope when I get there. Say hello to Bing for me. If you see
Jesus face to face, tell Him I love Him.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:47:05 -0400
From: "michael Simon" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Biography in Sound
Does anyone know where I might get a copy of the December 25, 1956 episode
of Biobraphy in Sound? Its a program about Grandma Moses and I am anxieous
to hear it. None of my usual sources carry the program.
Thanks
Michael
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:47:50 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Information, Please
Dick Judge wrote:
Marty Grams is a little off with his numbers for Information Please.
At the present time there are between 237 and 245 shows in existence, rather
than the 223.
I do believe there were more than 600 actual show dates for this series.
Again rather than the 510 that he says.
Sorry Dick,
INFORMATION PLEASE ran a total of 510 episodes. My figures are accurate
because I had access to Dan Golenpaul's papers, correspondence, scripts,
contracts, inter-office memos, etc. For the record, see excerpt below:
Episode #1 Broadcast of May 17, 1938.
Panelists: Franklin P. Adams, science writer Science writer Bernard Jaffe,
columnist Marcus Duffield and Prof. Harry Overstreet
Episode #510 Broadcast of April 22, 1951.
Panelists: Franklin P. Adams, John Kieran, playwright Howard Lindsay and
actress Dorothy Stickney
As for the number of episodes in existence, I could be off by a few numbers
- I'll admit I'm no expert on everything. But my numbers total that of what
Jay Hickerson listed in his ULTIMATE GUIDE book (which lists current info as
to the number of broadcasts known to exist in recorded form and dealers who
have those recordings available) and a few additional broadcasts I came
across which Jay Hickerson didn't have listed. There are A LARGE NUMBER of
recordings floating about with no airdates, and a LARGE NUMBER of recordings
floating about with multiple dates. An excellent example is . . .
Episode #180, broadcast of October 24, 1941.
Panelists included Franklin P. Adams, John Kieran, musician Deems Taylor and
author [removed] Forrester.
Yet I have purchased two copies of this recording which dealers have been
inaccurately listing March 14, 1939 and January 9, 1940 as the broadcast
date. How do I know the dates assigned to the recording is inaccurate?
Because the following are the true guests on those dates:
Episode #44 Broadcast of March 14, 1939.
Panelists: Franklin P. Adams, John Kieran, radio new commentator Elmer Davis
and author Dorothy Parker
Episode #87 Broadcast of January 9, 1940.
Panelists: Franklin P. Adams, John Kieran, Oscar Levant and Edna Ferber,
author of Show Boat
The one problem with the surviving INFORMATION PLEASE broadcasts is that no
script or episode title was ever assigned like THE SHADOW and INNER SANCTUM
so collectors have been easily accepting whatever broadcast date accompanied
the recordings and mistakenly assumed that the date assigned is correct.
One of the cause and effects for this repeat error was because at the end of
each INFORMATION PLEASE broadcast, Clifton Fadiman would reveal to the
listening audience who would be guest "next week" but MANY times that did
not turn out to be the case. Guests sometimes were unable to attend as
planned. Christopher Morley, author of KITTY FOYLE and a Sherlock Holmes
know-it-all, lived just blocks away from the broadcasting studio so anytime
a guest was unable to attend, Morley would substitute in their place. At
the end of the broadcast of February 6, 1942, Fadiman revealed that Boris
Karloff was scheduled to appear for the week after. However, Karloff was
superstitious (according to a press release) and as a result, Karloff backed
out of the broadcast of February 13, 1942. A guest author took his place.
Karloff did appear on the February 20 broadcast with another horror star,
John Carradine. Now a recording og the February 13 broadcast does not exist
in recorded form. The end result is that I have acquired from two different
dealers, copies of the February 20 broadcast with Karloff and Carradine, and
the dealers inaccurately listed February 13 as the date! See how the
mistake can be easily made?
BearManor Media will be releasing a book entitled INFORMATION PLEASE in
October and the book will contain a complete episode guide to all 510 radio
broadcasts, in detail with all of the guest panelists and their occupations
(along with reprints of contracts, press releases, reviews, history of the
series, etc.). I personally have in my possession (thanks to a good friend)
a copy of the sponsor contracts so I can verify through the broadcast dates
listed in the contracts (A definitive source) that INFORMATION PLEASE was
never broadcast over the radio long enough to even reach 600 episodes. The
episode guide that will be featured in BearManor Media's book (courtesy of
Ben Ohmart) will allow every collector and fan to finally have a definitive
one-stop source to straighten out the mess of wrong dates and inaccurate
guest star listings. They can compare their recordings to the log and
accurately date the recordings accordingly. Thus if you have a broadcast
featuring Deems Taylor and [removed] Forrester, anyone using the index will
easily be able to find the ONLY episode to feature both guests in the same
broadcast - and whola! The exact broadcast date!
Information reprinted above came directly from the INFORMATION PLEASE book,
reprinted with permission.
Martin Grams, Jr.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:47:57 -0400
From: Tedshumaker@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re:More call letters
WLW World's Lowest Wages.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:48:23 -0400
From: "Charles L. Prescott" <charlyprescott@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bob Hope & KPOJ
Dixon wrote:
I met the great comedian in October 1989 when he was in town for a show.
With a photographer in tow, I interviewed him for my TV station. Bob Hope
was
funny, kind, and never minded the requests for pictures or autographs, in
fact
even seemed to expect them.
I saw Bob twice ... once on Guam when I was stationed there during the
Vietnam War and once during the early 70s when he was doing a book
signing at the J. K. Gill store (gone now) in downtown Portland, Oregon.
However, he must have been in a touchy mood that day. A KPTV
cameraman stuck a mike in front of his mouth and Bob pushed it away ...
saying, "Get that (expletive) thing out of my face!" However, I think
he was ill on that day ... but still was a "trooper" enough to not miss
an engagement.
Gordon Gregersen wrote:
Here in Portland, Oregon we used to have two daily newspapers: The
Oregonian (still in existence) and the Oregon Journal (gone for at least
25 years). Radio Station KPOJ? Portland Oregon Journal, of course.
I used to deliver Oregon Journals when I was a kid in John Day, Oregon.
But, on KPOJ, were you listening back in 1960-1 when the announcer
committed suicide? My grandfather was. The announcer put on a record
and, at the end, it just went click .. click .. click .. for about a
half-an-hour. Then the music started up again. The next morning, the
Journal (and the Oregonian) reported that the announcer had taken his
own life. The last song he played? "Softly As I Leave You," by Matt Monro.
CLP
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:48:41 -0400
From: gsgreg@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: ANNOUNCERS
In issue 293, Donald Tuttle asks for information on radio announcers.
In 1978, Ray Poindexter wrote the book "Golden Throats and Silver Tongues:
The Radio Announcers" (River Road Press). I checked on Tuesday afternoon,
and learned that copies are available(hardback with dust jacket) at the
Advanced Book Exchange website, [removed].
The usual disclaimers apply.
Gordon Gregersen
Portland, Oregon
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:49:24 -0400
From: "Roby McHone" <otr_alaska@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Bob Hope
If anyone wants to send a sympathy card to the Hope family here is the
e-mail address:
admin@[removed]
Roby McHone
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:02:42 -0400
From: gsgreg@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: DAN SEYMOUR
More regarding Donald Tuttle's post in #293:
Indeed, there were two Dan Seymours: the black-haired, greasy Dan Seymour
(1915-1993) of at least three Bogart pictures (Casablanca, To Have and
Have Not, Key Largo) and the silver-tongued Dan Seymour who announced Aunt
Jenny and The Aldrich Family.
Gordon Gregersen
Portland, Oregon
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:57:01 -0400
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Bob Hope remembered
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In a message dated 7/30/03 3:55:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:
I remember when people like Frank Sinatra,
Princess Diana, and even George Burns died, there were full magazine
specials on their [removed] and the television coverage! Specials, hour-long
dedications, [removed] Now, with perhaps the biggest name in show-biz, all I
see is a one-night, 3 minute segment on his death in the middle of a news
broadcast.
Shameful!
CNN devoted a sizable chunk of its day to coverage of Bob Hope's death,
capped off with the Larry King tribute. They showed multiple clips of his TV
shows
and movies, and several times even repeated an audio clip from the opening of
"The Pepsodent Show," along with a film clip of Hope and Frances Langford
behind some microphones, doing a radio show.
Fox also devoted a considerable amount of coverage to Hope.
Dixon
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:22:19 -0400
From: erest@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Bob Hope
When I think of Bob I think of Johnny Carson's show. Whenever Bob had a
special in the works he would visit Johnny.
To me he was so much funnier on Carson's and even his outtake were better
than the show. Still the shows were
better than most TV. It is great to hear the old radio shows now, since for
so many years not many were available.
Rob
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:29:05 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: I never left home
I would like to remind everybody about a Lux Radio Theater called I never
left home, written as a book by Bob Hope and performed on Lux. I don't
have the date to hand, but I think it was in 1944 or 1945, but I am not
sure. Check it out. Kurt
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:29:36 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <hughes1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Bob Hope
Hi Everybody,
I interview Les Brown Jr. last week. He told me that his dad got the job
with Bob Hope because of Doris Day. Les wanted to cut back on his One Night
Stands and let the word out he would take a cut in pay to join radio show.
At an event for taking pictures for one of the Film Magazine Bob was ask if
he was happen with his band. He said no, and they play him a copy of the
record Sentimental Journeys. He wanted to know who was the girl. he was
told it was Doris Day. Bob wanted to hirer her for the radio show. Then he
was information that she was under contract for Les Brown. Bob said let
hirer the band then. Thus Doris Day stayed with the radio show for only two
year, while Les had quit a career working with Bob. Take care,
Walden
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:29:48 -0400
From: "Kurt E. Yount" <blsmass@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: call letters
I don't know how to spell this, but KRHM (now KIIS FM) stood for Ruth and
Harry Maslish. I actually don't know when it started, but it ended
during the 70s. Kurt
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:30:08 -0400
From: "B. J. Watkins" <kinseyfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: recordings revisited
Thank you to Elizabeth, Martin and Michael for their answers to my question
about transcribed programs aired on the West Coast, most specifically
Information Please.
Michael mentioned Beat the Band and the similar answers given to the same
questions. How did other quiz shows handle the west coast repeats? Anyone
have any examples? I wouldn't expect ordinary contestants to be able to act
out their answers and reactions. And if different contestants were used it
would almost be like doing two different shows. I'd love to hear an example
of this.
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:30:18 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Tex McCrary Obituary
David Hinckley of the New York Daily News notes the passing of Tex McCrary
in today's edition.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
[removed]
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:30:28 -0400
From: Joe Mackey <joemackey108@[removed];
To: otrd <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Today in radio history
From Those Were The Days --
1933 -- listeners turned up the radio on this day to hear the announcer
introduce "Jack Armstrong, the All-American Boy!" The show was one of
the longest-running adventure programs on radio, continuing until 1951.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:31:33 -0400
From: Lee Munsick <leemunsick@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Dan Seymour
Dan Seymour the film actor who portrayed sleezy villains is most
definitely NOT the same Dan Seymour who was a radio announcer /actor on
many programs in "the golden age". There is one reference to his visage
which kind of sums up his success: "Described bluntly as 'yeccch' in a
1968 book on movie villains, porcine Dan Seymour has certainly played
more than his share of slimy bad guys." He appeared in 60 films and at
least 30 television appearances. Actor Dan Seymour passed away ten
years ago.
The radio Dan Seymour may best be recalled as the host on the
radio-later television program "We, The People". He succeeded Dwight
Weist and others as that program's announcer in 1949. Earlier voices in
that slot, beginning with the show's creator Phillips H. Lord in 1936,
included Gabriel Heatter, Milo Boulton, Dwight Weist, Burgess Meredith,
and Eddie Dowling.
The radio "We, The People" left the air in 1949, having been sponsored
in its last 8 years or so by Gulf Oil. It continued on the new medium
called television for some years.
After that version left the air, Seymour became a figure to reckon with
in the advertising industry, winding up as the senior executive in one
of the largest ad agencies in New York, the J. Walter Thompson Company.
The same irreverently referred to by one radio comedian as "J. Waltere
Puppycup". Their company web page has the following short biography:
The fourth CEO of the J. Walter Thompson Company, Dan Seymour joined
JWT's Radio and Television Department in 1955. Prior to working with
JWT, Seymour was Vice President of Radio and Televisio n at another
agency and before that a radio announcer and series producer. Seymour
played a major role in the development of JWT's Radio-TV operations,
both in programming strategy and creation of commercials.
Seymour was also the host of a CBS radio program called "Sing It Again;
which debuted in 1948, switched to CBS-TV in 1950, and ended its run in
1951. It was a combination quiz show and musical talent stage,
featuring such young performers as Alan Dale and Jan Murray.
In 2001, there was a motion picture called "Everything Moves Alone"
produced by one Thomas Edward Seymour, described as
writer-actor-producer-cinematographer-editor-composer. Busy man!
Appearing in the cast as a policeman was Bruce Seymour, also listed as
Associate Producer, a title shared by another presumed relative
[removed] guess it: Dan Seymour. What the connection is amongst all
these folk is not detailed. Whatever it was, apparently they kept it in
the family!
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