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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2009 : Issue 145
A Part of the [removed]!
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK [ Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed]; ]
Sounding good at [removed] eh. [ StepToons@[removed] ]
Theme song to Burns and Allen [ etorch@[removed] ]
Union names [ jack and cathy french <otrpiano@ver ]
MP3 or elitist [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Apollo on the radio [ Jodie Peeler <raisingirl@mindspring ]
Re: Jack Benny And Rochester [ "Scott Palmer" <scott@[removed]; ]
Re: Jack in the dark [ stevenl751 <stevenl751@[removed]; ]
Another Nostaglic Article About Radi [ Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed] ]
8-3 births/deaths [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
Gertrude Berg or Molly Goldberg? [ Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed]; ]
RE: Recycle Names? [ James Meadows <walthamus@[removed]; ]
Lights Out [ "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@hotm ]
Jack Benny & Eddie Anderson [ Frank McGurn <[removed]@sbcglobal. ]
Biographical Stories of famous autho [ Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed]; ]
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:15:00 -0400
From: Jerry Haendiges <Jerry@[removed];
To: Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK
Hi Friends,
Here is this week's schedule for my Olde Tyme Radio Network. Here you
may listen to high-quality broadcasts with Tom Heathwood's "Heritage
Radio Theatre," Big John Matthews and Steve "Archive" Urbaniak's "The
Glowing Dial" and my own "Same Time, Same Station." Streamed in
high-quality audio, on demand, 24/7 at [removed]
Check out our High-Quality mp3 catalog at:
[removed]
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SAME TIME, SAME STATION
*Atomic Energy*
THE QUICK AND THE DEAD
NBC Sustaining Thursdays 8:00 - 8:30 Pm
Special 4 Part Series On Atomic Energy
Host: Bob Hope
Narrator: Robert Trout
Director/Writer: Fred Friendly.
Supervisor: William F. Brook
Summer Replacement For "The Aldrich Family"
Episode 1 7-6-50 "Chain Reaction"
Episode 2 7-13-50 "Mister Hope And The Atom Bomb"
Episode 3 7-20-50 "The Hydrogen Bomb"
Episode 4 7-27-50 "Where Do We Go From Here?"
==================================
HERITAGE RADIO THEATER
SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE
(NBC) 8/2/51 "Caged" starring Eleanor Prker & Hope Swanson. A gripping
story of life in a Woman's State Reformatory.
THE STRANGE DR. WEIRD
(MBS) 11/7/44 First Show - "The House Where Death Lived" Maurice Tarplin
is the good doctor.
FUN FROM THE BLOOPER REEL
- Lowell Thomas - The "Dolly Dimples" story.
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THE GLOWING DIAL
Silver Theater - "Danger Lights"
originally aired December 12, 1938 on CBS
Starring: Clark Gable, Paula Winslow, John Conte announcing.
Sponsor: International Silver Company
Theatre of Romance - "Casanova Brown"
originally aired November 13, 1945 on CBS
Starring: Henry Fonda.
Sponsors: Colgate, Halo Shampoo
Encore Theater - "Green Light"
originally aired June 25, 1946 on CBS
Starring: Robert Young, Pedro de Cordova, Frank Graham announcing.
Sponsor: Schenley Labs, Inc.
Academy Award Theater - "Suspicion"
originally aired October 30, 1946 on CBS
Starring: Cary Grant, Ann Todd, Hugh Brundage announcing.
Sponsor: E. R. Squibb & Sons
Camel Screen Guild Theatre - "Call Northside 777"
originally aired October 7, 1948 on NBC
Starring: James Stewart, Pat O'Brien, Richard Conte, Michael Roy announcing.
Sponsor: Camel Cigarettes
==================================
If you have any questions or request, please feel free to contact me.
Jerry Haendiges
Jerry@[removed] 562-696-4387
The Vintage Radio Place [removed]
Largest source of Old Time Radio Logs, Articles and programs on
the Net
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:17:29 -0400
From: StepToons@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Sounding good at [removed] eh.
In a message dated 8/2/2009 4:59:13 [removed] Eastern Daylight Time writes:
Subject: Re: 64kps?!!
Sounding good at 64? Maybe okay for [removed] but there's too much
digital chirping at that low rate for archival purposes.
When I'm transferring old tapes or discs, it's 192kbps or higher (usually)
for me. And why not go higher? It's not as if MP3 files are huge.
A note about MP3 "file Info": (For those who don't know:)
I use WINAMP (it's [removed]) to add ID3v2 data to all of my MP3's. There's
lot of room to type in title, artist, year and comments. It's great for
historical notes. So don't just save the TITLE of a show within the file
name;
use the datapack that's included with every MP3 file to add a some beefy
notes and history.
:-) Step
[ADMINISTRIVIA: As I thought I mentioned in the last issue but the note seems
to have been truncated, since I can't post here my thoughts on this argument
are posted to my blog at [removed] along with a
podcast of an episode of The Columbia Workshop. --cfs3]
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:17:36 -0400
From: etorch@[removed]
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Theme song to Burns and Allen
Following on a thread about Meredith Willson--does anyone know of a good
recording of "The Love Nest", particularly played in the way Willson played
it leading into and out of the "Burns and Allen" show?
Evan Torch, MD
Atlanta
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:17:44 -0400
From: jack and cathy french <otrpiano@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Union names
Larry Moore inquires about actors using different names in the
performing unions and wants to know if the professional names are
retired after a person dies with that given name.
I'm a member of both SAG and AFTRA under the name "Jack French." Had
there been another member on the books with that exact name, I would
not have been able to use my "given" name as my professional name in
that union. So if there was a "Jack French" in SAG but not in AFTRA,
I might have been "Johnny French" in SAG and "Jack French" in AFTRA.
However for convenience, most actors whose professional name is
already in usage in one union, will choose another name and use it in
both unions. I worked with William "Bill" Delaney on stage in
Washington, DC several times. When he qualified for SAG, there
already were both a William and a Bill Delaney in the union. So Bill
changed his professional name to "Delaney Williams" and joined both
SAG and AFTRA under that name.
The unions have had this requirement in place a long time. In the
1940s, a British actor came to Hollywood whose name was James
Stewart. Inasmuch as SAG already had a James Stewart in the union,
the immigrant became "Stewart Granger" when he launched his [removed]
movie career, later becoming a major star in "Scaramouche."
It's up to the individual unions whether or not to let a second actor
use the name of a union member who is deceased. I suspect that
decision is based upon how famous the deceased actor was and how long
ago his death occurred. They probably wouldn't let an actor take the
name of say, Sean Connery shortly after he dies.
Jack French
Editor: RADIO RECALL
<[removed]>
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:18:09 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: MP3 or elitist
Sammy Jones writes:
I'm afraid I have to disagree. 64 kbps sounds pretty bad to my
ears: If I can hear digital swishes or chirping, that's just
not good enough.
First generation OTR recordings can and do sound very good, indeed.
MP3 has opened up the hobby to untold thousands, I see nothing wrong
with that. We need all kinds in the hobby, those who collect, those
who listen and those who do both. If you want to be an elitist, that
is your privilege, but don't belittle the ones who are not elitist.
Ron Sayles
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:18:17 -0400
From: Jodie Peeler <raisingirl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Apollo on the radio
Jim Burns asked:
Any memories here, of how radio participated in our first missions to
the moon?
I've found stray bits and pieces of it out there. For instance, a
CBS/Bantam Audiobooks cassette titled "Man on the Moon," narrated by
Walter Cronkite, had Reid Collins' vivid CBS Radio description of the
Apollo 11 liftoff.
One of the sites that used to feature actualities (since taken down, I
believe) also had the start of a CBS hourly newscast from the afternoon
of July 20, 1969, with Allan Jackson giving the news of, and early
reaction to, Eagle's landing. This site (or perhaps another one; it's
been several years) also had an ABC newscast with Art Van Horn from the
morning of December 27, 1968, with the top story being the imminent
re-entry of Apollo 8 from the first flight around the Moon.
If there are sites out there with more audio clips, I'd love to know.
I'm into spaceflight history just as I'm into old radio and television,
and I love getting my hands on this stuff.
As an aside, former Mutual newsman Don Blair wrote a book a few years
ago called "Splashdown! NASA and the Navy" based on his days as a pool
correspondent on the recovery ships. As far as a definitive account of
the Navy's recovery role in NASA missions, it leaves a good bit to be
desired, but if you want firsthand stories of what it was like to be out
there reporting it as it happened, it's a very entertaining book.
One more note: Mutual had a green Ford Econoline van, rented from Avis
in 1966, that had equipment to support the radio newscasts and helped
transmit wirephotos. It was brought aboard the prime recovery ship for
each recovery. By 1970, according to a "Popular Science" article about
the Apollo 13 recovery, it had 9500 miles on its odometer but had
traveled about 100,000 miles aboard ships at sea. (The van also had a
ham radio system, operated by its engineering supervisor, who in his
spare time helped members of the recovery ship's company communicate
with their families back home.)
Jodie Peeler
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:18:33 -0400
From: "Scott Palmer" <scott@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Re: Jack Benny And Rochester
The question is whether or not Jack's question was in regards to not being
able to see Rochester because he was black, or not being able to see another
person in the house because the lights were out. Would it have been as funny
if having been said to Mary?
Speaks volumes that it is assumed the prior even in today's audience. Not
singling anyone out on this as I can see both sides of the coin, merely
adding my two cents.
Regards,
Scott Palmer
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:18:48 -0400
From: stevenl751 <stevenl751@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Re: Jack in the dark
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from MULTIPART/alternative
X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain
Near the end of the show, Rochester address's Jack from a distance (in the
script and apparently on stage) and Jack (ad libs) says to Rochester "where
are you". The way I understood it was that perhaps Eddie (Rochester)
Anderson was far enough off mike not to be seen easily, and perhaps out of
the light, and because of Rochester's skin color, Jack could not see him in
the dark.
I've always assumed that Eddie had mistakenly left the microphone early, forgetting he had
the later line, and therefore had to shout his line from off microphone. So Jack's "Where are
you?" ad lib was to address the fact the Eddie was speaking to him from off microphone -
sounding like he was somewhere else - when Rochester was supposed to be in the same room.
The audience's laughter started tentatively at first and then built as they realized that a mistake
had happened and how Jack had responded to it.
- Steven Lewis
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:19:03 -0400
From: Sean Dougherty <seandd@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Another Nostaglic Article About Radio
Here's a nostalgic article about radio from [removed] mentioning many
of our favorite shows.
[removed]
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@[removed]
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:19:12 -0400
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 8-3 births/deaths
August 3rd births
08-03-1885 - Arthur Sinclair - Dublin, Ireland - d. 12-14-1951
actor: John A. Considine "Jumbo Fire Chief Program"
08-03-1886 - Anna Barbash - d. 1-1-1983
soprano: "Memories of Jennie Lind"
08-03-1886 - Russ Westover - Los Angeles, CA - d. 3-5-1966
writer: Creator of the comic strip "Tillie the Toiler"
08-03-1894 - Harry Heilmann - San Francisco, CA - d. 7-9-1951
sportscaster: WXYZ Detroit
08-03-1896 - Wendell Hall - St. George, KS - d. 4-4-1969
singer: (The Red Headed Music Maker) "Eveready Hour"; "Red Headed
Music Maker"
08-03-1900 - Ernie Pyle - Dana, IN - d. 4-18-1945
world war II correspondent: "Words at War"; "Cavalcade of America"
08-03-1902 - Irma Glen - Chicago, IL - d. 12-15-1982
organist: "Irma Glen Lovable Music"; "Vic and Sade"
08-03-1903 - John S. Young - Springfield, MA - d. 1-12-1976
announcer: Foreign news for NBC in Nyw York
08-03-1904 - Clifford Simak - Millville, WI - d. 4-24-1988
writer: "Dimension X"
08-03-1905 - Dolores Del Rio - Durango, Mexico - d. 4-11-1983
actor: "Hollywood on the Air"
08-03-1905 - Gaylord Carter - Wiesbaden, Germany - d. 11-20-2000
organist: "Amos 'n' Andy"; "Breakfast in Hollywood"
08-03-1906 - James Thieran Biggs - Richwood, OH - d. 8-27-1996
radio and telegraph operator: WVZ
08-03-1906 - Robert Emmett Dolan - Hartford, CT - d. 9-26-1972
music maestro: "The Circle"; "Birdseye Open House"
08-03-1907 - Adrienne Ames - Fort Worth, TX - d. 5-31-1947
film star: WHN New York, New York
08-03-1907 - Irene Tedrow - Denver, CO - d. 3-10-1995
actor: Janet Archer "Meet Corliss Archer"; Dorothy Regent "Chandu, the
Magacian"
08-03-1911 - Ken Patterson - Montana - d. 2-16-1990
actor: "Dragnet"
08-03-1915 - Hugh Douglas - Chicago, IL - d. 9-1-1993
announcer: "Have Gun, Will Travel"; "CBS Radio Workshop"
08-03-1916 - Horace Logan - Shreveport, LA - d. 10-13-2002
creator of "The Louisana Hayride"
08-03-1916 - Milton Drake - NYC - d. 11-13-2006
songwriter: "Mairzy Doats"
08-03-1917 - Charlie Shavers - NYC - d. 7-8-1971
jazz trumpeter: "Jump Time"; "Mildred Bailey Show"; "Tommy Dorsey Show"
08-03-1917 - Larry Haines - Mt. Vernon, NY - d. 7-17-2008
actor: Carl Ward "Young Dr. Malone"; Fred Molina "This is Nora Drake"
08-03-1918 - Les Elgart - New Haven, CT - d. 7-29-1995
bandleader: "Let's Go to Town"; "Manhattan Melodies"
08-03-1920 - Marilyn Maxwell - Clarinda, IA - d. 3-20-1972
singer, actor: "Kraft Music Hall"; "Abbott and Costello Show"; "Bob
Hope Show"
08-03-1923 - Jean Hagen - Chicago, IL - d. 8-29-1977
actor: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Stars in the Air"
08-03-1925 - Billy James Hargis - Texarkana, TX - d. 11-27-2004
preacher: Broadcast his ministry on more than 500 radio stations.
08-03-1926 - Tony Bennett - NYC
singer: "[removed] Woolworth Hour"; "Songs for Sale"; "Stepping Out"
08-03-1927 - Gordon Scott - Portland, OR - d. 4-30-2007
actor: "Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy"
August 3rd deaths
01-25-1920 - Fred Pinkard - d. 8-3-2004
actor: "Destination Freedom"; "Hello, Sucker"
02-04-1918 - Ida Lupino - London, England - d. 8-3-1995
panelist, actor: "Hollywood Byline"; "Screen Guild Theatre"
04-28-1929 - Carolyn Jones - Amarillo, TX - d. 8-3-1983
actor: "Dragnet"; "Survivors"
06-27-1938 - Ron Lyons - Asheville, NC - d. 8-3-2007
traffic anchor: KCBS San Francisco, California
08-06-1923 - William B. Williams - Babylon, NY - d. 8-3-1986
disc jockey: Leading New York DJ for more than 40 years at WNEW
08-12-1892 - Alfred Lunt - Milwaukee, WI - d. 8-3-1977
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "Theatre Guild On the Air"; "Treasury
Star Parade"
08-24-1924 - Lou Teicher - Wilkes Barre, PA - d. 8-3-2008
pianist: (Ferrante and Teicher) "The Zero Hour"; "Hollywood Radio
Theatre"
09-19-1924 - Bob Murphy - Oklahoma - d. 8-3-2004
sportscaster: teamed with Curt Gowdy to broadcast Red Sox Games
10-13-1925 - Lenny Bruce - Mineola, NY - d. 8-3-1966
comedian: "Arthur Godfrey Talent Scouts"; "Why Did Lenny Bruce Die?"
12-03-1857 - Joseph Conrad - Kiev, Russian Empire - d. 8-3-1924
author: Many of his works were adapted for radio
12-09-1915 - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf - Jarotschin, Posen, Germany - d.
8-3-2006
singer: Austrian Radio
12-19-1912 - Frank Holliday - San Francisco, CA - d. 8-3-1948
singer: (The Rockaway Four) "The Gay Nineties Revue"
12-29-1894 - Harry Lang - NYC - d. 8-3-1953
actor: Mr. Fuddle "Blondie"; Pan Pancho "Cisco Kid"
Ron
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:22:53 -0400
From: Ken Greenwald <kgradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Gertrude Berg or Molly Goldberg?
To quote the reference on the Dunninger show:
There is at least one mistake,
the author mentions that "actress Molly Goldberg" once appeared on the
program. Of course we all know (especially given the recent posts on the
subject in the Digest) that Gertrude Berg was the actress, Molly Goldberg was
the character she created.
That may not be a mistake.
Often times the radio characters name was better known than the actor/actress's real name.
The name Gertrude Berg certainly wasn't as well known as Molly Goldberg.
So the mention of "actress Molly Goldberg" may be correct, though I am not sure.
Just a [removed]
Ken Greenwald
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:23:03 -0400
From: James Meadows <walthamus@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: RE: Recycle Names?
Larry Moore wrote:
In a book by George Jean Nation on the theater season of 1946-1947 he
mentions a Michael Fox. Now we know a Michael J. Fox and the question is are
there any circumstances when two people can have the same name? Could that
only occur if the person with a given name was deceased prior to the
formation of the various entertainment unions?
I don't really know the answer to that, but I notice that the Internet Movie
Database ([removed]) often lists two or more people with the same name. One
example that comes to mind is Harrison Ford. The first Harrison Ford had
leading roles in silent films but didn't do well in talkies --- [removed]
lists his final film in 1932. He died in 1957, when the Harrison Ford we're
familiar with today was a teen-ager.
As for people with the same name working at the same time --- I guess if I
was just starting out in show business and my name was Ben Affleck or Jackie
Chan, I would probably change it. But if two low-level performers have the
same name and are working at the same time, will one of them change it? Will
their union force them to?
Jim Meadows
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:37:30 -0400
From: "Martin Grams, Jr." <mmargrajr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Lights Out
[removed] King is correct. During the 1980s, someone was deliberately taking
recordings of ARCH OBOLER PLAYS and replacing the opening and closing theme
with that of LIGHTS OUT. Sadly, even Metacom (Adventures in Cassettes) was
selling the ARCH OBOLER PLAYS masquerading as LIGHTS OUT. I recall buying a
cassette with "My Chicago" as a LIGHTS OUT and after listening to it asking
myself what the heck that had to do with [removed]
To this date, tons of MP3s still offer LIGHTS OUT episodes that were never
originally LIGHTS OUT episodes to begin with. Oboler wrote short plays for
numerous series such as Rudy Vallee and Charlie McCarthy for their hour-long
variety programs and in 1939 to 1940 (and a brief revival from 1945), when
Oboler had his own series, ARCH OBOLER PLAYS, he was reusing those same plays
and presenting half-hour broadcasts consisting of two and three short dramas.
The good thing is that this problem has been corrected. Terry Salomonson of
Audio Classics did go through the broadcast logs and verify what was and was
not LIGHTS OUT and ARCH OBOLER PLAYS and sought out the true unaltered
recordings. I bought all my CDs from him. Neal Ellis of [removed]
also did the same and offers them on MP3, so the correct recordings have been
straightened out.
Martin
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:39:00 -0400
From: Frank McGurn <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Jack Benny & Eddie Anderson
Near the end of the show, Rochester address's Jack from a distance (in the
script and apparently on stage) and Jack (ad libs) says to Rochester "where
are you". The way I understood it was that perhaps Eddie (Rochester)
Anderson was far enough off mike not to be seen easily, and perhaps out of
the light, and because of Rochester's skin color, Jack could not see him in
the dark.
If a person is in the dark how do yo tell the color of his skin?
I listened you many Amos & Andy shows and I never remember any one
making remarks about color, Red Shelton had wonderful Smith, Duffy's
Tavern Eddie Green, the waiter, Fibber McGee have Beulah the maid etc. I
never remember the term Colored Negro on any of these shows. I/we knew
what color they were and accepted as actors.
being used in any politically incorrect manor and I hate "politically
incorrect". I always tell lift it is.
As far as [removed] & Rochester are concerned there relationship started on
March 28, 1937 when Rochester became a regular. So the program of
December 18 1949. that is over 12 years, in those 12 years of working
and traveling together you get know one
another and say things to each other that an outsider may
[removed] Amen
Frank McGurn
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:39:08 -0400
From: Jim Erskine <homeway@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Biographical Stories of famous authors?
I'm trying to find some biographical stories of famous authors such as
Dickens, Twain, etc., but haven't found much outside along these lines
except for some stray episodes of Cavalcade of America. Anyone know of
any other programs that feature stories of famous authors from the past?
Any leads would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim Erskine
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