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The Old-Time Radio Digest!
Volume 2006 : Issue 294
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ISSN: 1533-9289
Today's Topics:
Larry Haines [ <otrbuff@[removed]; ]
War bonds [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
Big Band Remotes [ "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed]; ]
Complete Broadcast Days [ Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed] ]
complete broadcast days [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
war Bond [ "Walden Hughes" <walden1@yesterdayu ]
FOTR: Will Hutchins, MIA [ "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed]; ]
Baseball broadcasts [ "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed] ]
Matthew Bulliss qustion Re: War Bond [ "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@sbcgloba ]
10-28 births/deaths [ Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed] ]
Old Time Radio Related Search Engine [ Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed]; ]
Mike Wallace [ "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@attorneyross. ]
Amos 'n' Andy recordings [ "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed] ]
Fred Allen and a comment to Travis [ "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed]; ]
This week in radio history 29 Octobe [ "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@adelphia ]
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:25:16 -0400
From: <otrbuff@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Larry Haines
If Ron has ever published the birth date of Larry Haines, I have missed it.
b. Lawrence Hecht of Russian ancestry at Mt. Vernon, N. Y. on August 3, 1917
What does anyone know of Larry
Haines?
I took great delight in playing up this prolific radio and television
actor's accomplishments in my newest book released last spring, The Daytime
Serials of Television, 1946-60 ([removed], 800-253-2187),
devoting multiple pages and many references to him. Not just that, he's
also featured pictorially on the front cover as well as inside.
I have not seen anything that indicates he has left us since the book went
to press. He has been living in Florida in retirement. He was a serial
killer in his last soap opera (Loving, 1995), characteristic of his many
distinguished roles. I saw him on television in the late 1990s receive some
kind of award. He was truly one of the great ones among New York radio
acting companies.
Jim Cox
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:28:07 -0400
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: War bonds
Hello, since I'm too young, being only 28, the programs dealing with war
efforts are a little hard to understand. My friend, who is about my dad's
age, says there was no income tax back then, so I'm wondering about these
war bonds.
There was indeed income tax back then. It began in 1913, and since the top
tax rate was 50%, it did a lot to change the class structure of the nation.
Did they eventually pay off, and did the government having to pay
all this money, increase the national deficit?
Yes, and yes. I believe that War Bonds and Stamps were converted to Series
E United States Savings Bonds, which you can still buy at your local bank.
The money you pay goes to the US Government. They have to pay it back, with
interest, and they always do. You can also loan the government lots of
money at a time by purchasing 'Treasury Bills' for $10,000 each. Your bank
does this every day; they're considered a good investment.
Did the purchasing of the war
bonds really buy supplies such as rifles and amunition?
Yup, but not directly. It went into the general fund, which means it also
went to buy uniforms for the mailman and to paint the stairs at the Statue
of Liberty. But in a war like that one, any government needs lots more
money, which is why they sold special bonds.
In my way of
thinking, why couldn't the government just print more money?
Because when money is more plentiful, it is worth less. The phenomenon is
known as inflation, and it is why a new Chevrolet no longer costs $3,000.
It turns out that if more money is placed into circulation, people feel
richer, but prices go up, too. So if the Gov't prints up a lot of money and
uses it to buy tanks, the tank company will find that the price of the steel
they buy has risen. We say that the currency has been 'debased.' (Note:
since people feel richer when there's more money in circulation, the
President might be tempted to print up a lot of money as election time
approaches, or to otherwise manipulate public opinion. That's why our money
is issued by an independent group of expert bankers who serve ten-year
terms. They're called the Federal Reserve Board.)
I know these
questions may sound silly to those who lived through it, but I have neither
the history, nor the experience, to understand the time quite like I want
to.
They aren't at all silly. The sort of everyday history that your questions
represent is not so easy to fill in.
They have very moving messages at the end of several Fibber and Molly
and Gildersleeve programs, and I assume many others, and I'd like to get a
sense of the times, since this particular subject wasn't covered in any of
my history books, and I have no relatives who are still around from that
time period.
Their memories can be faulty, too. I was born after WWII, but my parents
talked about it a lot. As has been pointed out by any number of authors,
WWII was the high point of many peoples' lives.
Thanks a lot for your input, and for expanding on a subject which is
confusing to us younger listeners.
It ought to be explained better. As the generations change out, it might be
useful to include some sort of decoding session with each recorded show to
answer many of the questions we get here, [removed]: What the heck was Blue Coal?
What exactly was a telegram, or a 'wire,' or a 'cable?' What was a
singing telegram, and why was it funny? What was a ration stamp? Why was
Fibber McGee fascinated with rubber bands during the war?
That sort of thing.
M Kinsler
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:14:30 -0400
From: "Bill Scherer" <bspro@[removed];
To: ""old-time radio digest">" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Big Band Remotes
Hi all,
For the person looking for the big band remotes I have a AFRS New Years Eve
Big band broadcast, and on vinyl I have some Woody Herman and Dorsey
Brothers shows. I believve I also have some Glen Miller in MP3 as well.
If interested just give me a shout offlist.
Bill
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:18 -0400
From: Elizabeth McLeod <lizmcl@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Complete Broadcast Days
On 10/27/06 4:38 PM [removed]@[removed] wrote:
Is anyone aware of recordings of complete broadcast days aside from the
ones I
know of Sep 21, 1939 & June 6, 1944 that were recorded and are available?
Memovox recordings exist of the entire output of NBC Red and Blue from
2pm on December 7, 1941 thru the full day of December 8. Most of these
were issued on cassette by Radio Yesteryear in the mid-1990s.
Some others that exist, but aren't in general circulation --
NBC recorded everything aired over WEAF from June 6, 1944 to August 16,
1944, and this over two-month-long continuous recording survives, give or
take the occasional broken disc, at the Library of Congress. Only the
first 40 hours or so have ever been circulated.
The Federal Communications Commission had recordings made of the entire
broadcast days of all six stations active in Washington DC on July 6,
1945, for use in a study of the percentage of time devoted to advertising
in a typical broadcast day. These recordings were analyzed and discussed
in "Public Service Responsibility of Broadcast Licensees," the famous
"Blue Book" report released by the commission in 1946. It's not known if
these recordings still exist in some deep-storage National Archives file
box, or even the format in which they were made -- it's likely they were
not high-quality discs, but rather Memovoxes or some such low-grade
system.
Elizabeth
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:37 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: complete broadcast days
Hi Everybody,
regarding the post asking about complete broadcast days. Listed below are
complete or partial days of broadcasting that,s is floating around the
hobby. Maybe our friend Karen Lerner of Radio spirit could get both NBC
Red and Blue of 12-8-41 release. Radio Yesteryear had it out for a while.
I am still hoping to land a copy of both those days of broadcasting for my
collection.
1. 9-21-39
2. 12-7-41 NBC Red from 2 PM on
3. NBC Blue of 12-7-41 from 2 PM on
4. NBC Red 12-8-41
5. NBC Blue 12-8-41
6. CBS 6-6-44
7. CBS 6-7-44 most of the day
8. NBC 6-6-44 starting around 2 [removed]
9. NBC 6-7-44 until 6 [removed]
10. 8-10-45 WEAF many hours
11. 123-55 NBC daytime
12. CBS night time 11-17-57
13. August 1960 daytime CBS
14. 9-6-60 CBS daytime
15. 9-16-60 CBS daytime
16. 11-24-60 CBS daytime
17. 11-25-60 daytime CBS
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:30:55 -0400
From: "Walden Hughes" <walden1@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: war Bond
Hi everybody,
regarding War Bond. One of my major is in Economic and I spent 10 year in
the investment fields. Starting in 1940 we had a income tax that only hit
the top 5 percent of income in the USA. Back in the American revolution our
paper money was not worth very much. In the late 1800s we had the fight
over our dollars being back by Silver or Gold. In time of trouble Foreign
countries demand our gold rather than paper to pay our trade bills. In
1933 FDR took us off the Gold standard inside the USA. Thus our government
had some different choices to pay for the war. They chose going the bond
route. This would be one way the government was going to try to stop
inflation. You has many more people earning money during the war, and we
were getting out of the great depression. Bonds paid around 3-25 percent
which mint for every 3 dollars you got 4 back in 10 years. Inflation was a
concern like what happen in other countries after World war I. Take care,
Walden Hughes
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:31:50 -0400
From: "Derek Tague" <derek@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: FOTR: Will Hutchins, MIA
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Hi Gang;
Earlier this week, I spoke with Bas Within, wife of our l pal Will "Issue"
Within. Hutch has often told me that the FOR convention in New Jersey is the
highlight of his year. So, one can surmise that if he's not in attendance,
there has to be a pretty good reason.
It turns out that Will had hurt his back and that the sciatica was so bad that
he was unable to walk without a cane, let alone travel with luggage nor stand
up at the microphone for re-creations. He's been going for RI's and other
tests and seems to be recovering ever so slowly.
Bas told me that Will is still able to indulge in one of his favorite hobbies,
and that's receiving and sending out cards and letters. Therefore--with Bas
Within's permission--I'm posting Will's mailing address so that anyone who'd
like to write and send him get-well wishes may do so.
WILL SHUT, [removed] Box 371, Glen Head, NY 11545--0371.
Yours in the ether (somehow, I went the entire FOR without saying that),
Derek Tague
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:03 -0400
From: "Andrew Godfrey" <niteowl049@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Baseball broadcasts
Free baseball broadcasts can be found at [removed] under Vintage sportcasts
under the V listings. These can be heard immediately. Some of these games
include games that Jimmie Foxx and Lou Gehrig played in back in 1934.
Andrew Godfrey
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:21 -0400
From: "Frank McGurn" <[removed]@[removed];
To: "The Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Matthew Bulliss qustion Re: War Bonds
If you studied history you would find that WWII stated in 1939. This country
was still feeling the effects of the Great Depression. The Germans were
rolling countries in Europe. The Germans were boning England daily, called
the" Blitz"
The USA was eventually going to be involve sooner or later. So we started to
supply war materials to England and Russia. The program was called"Lend
Lease" we were to paid back someday. In about 1940 the "Draft" stared men
over 18 were drafted into the army, Navel etc for a one year to be trained
if needed, and they were.
President Roosevelt stared National Defense. We were making plane , ships,
arms ETC. We had to pay the [removed]'s and the bills for all the war material
So The Treasury started selling "Defense Bond" For $[removed] in ten years you
could cash in the bonds and get $[removed]
For $[removed] cash in for $[removed] When I was in grade school we use to buy
defense stamps for a quarter or a dime and paste them in a book when we got
stamps that totaled [removed] we got a bond.
After Pearl Harbor and we were in the war The Bonds became "War Bonds" and
After the was over they became victory bond or just savings bonds. People
had their employer deduct money, for Bonds, from their pay. Some people
pledged to buy a bond a week.
There was income tax in those days, the same IRS that we all know and love.
Every radio program asked people to buy bonds, If hear OTR talk about War
Loans that meant selling bond . Hollywood stars donated their time and money
to promote and sell bonds . The Stars went tours all over the country to
sell bond.
If you had a bond and wanted to cash it in before 10 year you could, and get
the interest [removed] to the date it was cash in. I believe the government
pay off all the bonds.
There are 15 minute OTR sponsored buy the Treasury Dept call "The Treasury
Star Parade" the episodes were dramatic short dramas on the need for buying
bond. Top movie stars appeared for free and music by popular bands of the
day .
BY,BY BUY BONDS A sign off that was used at the end of some OTR programs.
I'm not a scholar, historian or a writer, but I was kid in the those days,
and was on every bodies mind, and I'll never forget it.
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:57:23 -0400
From: Ronald Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio Digest Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: 10-28 births/deaths
October 28th births
10-28-1886 - Ruth Gates - Denton, TX - d. 5-23-1966
actor: Mrs Lenord "Amanda of Honeymoon Hill"
10-28-1895 - Herb Butterfield - Rhode Island - d. 5-2-1957
actor: Clarence Wellman "Halls of Ivy"; Hunter Glenn "One Man's Family"
10-28-1895 - John Boles - Greenville, TX - d. 2-27-1969
actor, singer: "Texaco Star Theatre"
10-28-1896 - Howard Hanson - Wahoo, NE - d. 2-26-1981
conductor, composer: "New York Philharmonic"; "ASCAP World's Fair
Concert"
10-28-1897 - Edith Head - San Bernardino, CA - d. 10-24-1981
costume designer: Intermission Guest "Lux Radio Theatre"
10-28-1902 - Elsa Lanchester - Lewisham, England - d. 12-26-1986
actor: "Arch Oboler's Plays"; "Columbia Presents Corwin"; "Everyman's
Theatre"
10-28-1905 - Ed Thorgerson - Wisconsin - d. 8-xx-1985
sports announcer
10-28-1906 - Lou Bring - d. 7-15-1951
orchestra leader: "The Al Jolson Show"; "The Gracie Fields Show"
10-28-1908 - David LeWinter - NYC - d. 1-22-1976
orchestra leader: Late night dance band remotes
10-28-1912 - Madaline Lee - Dallas, TX - d. 1-10-1974
actor: Genevive Blue "Amos 'n' Andy"; Wendy Burton "Second Mrs. Burton"
10-28-1913 - Ruth Peterson - Wauwatosa, WI - d. 2-2-1985
actor: Linda Carroll "Hawthorne House"
10-28-1917 - Ron Rawson - d. 7-18-1994
announcer: "Right to Happiness"; "Advs. of Topper"; "Advs. of the
Thin Man"
10-28-1934 - Johnny Western - Two Harbors, MN
singer, actor, songwriter: (Ballad of Paladin) Daily show on KFDI
Wichita, KS
October 28th deaths
01-26-1914 - Jack de Manio - Hampstead, England - d. 10-28-1988
announcer: "Today"; "Jack de Manio Precisely"; "Woman's Hour"
02-22-1891 - George Jeske - Utah - d. 10-28-1951
writer: "Truth or Consequences"
04-01-1917 - Leon Janney - Ogden, UT - d. 10-28-1980
actor: Danny Stratford "Life of Mary Sothern"; Richard Parker "Parker
Family"
07-27-1918 - Veola Vonn - NYC - d. 10-28-1995
actor: Dimples Wilson "Blondie"; Princess Nadji "Chandu the Magician"
08-29-1913 - Sylvia Fine - NYC - d. 10-28-1991
writer: (Wife of Danny Kaye) "Danny Kaye Show"; "Forecast"; "Bud's
Bandwagon"
09-15-1915 - Phil Brito - Boomer, WV - d. 10-28-2005
narrator: "Moon River"
09-16-1919 - Larry Dobkin - NYC - d. 10-28-2002
actor: Archie Goodwin "Advs. of Nero Wolfe"; Ellery Queen "Advs. of
Ellery Queen"
09-17-1907 - Alice Yourman - d. 10-28-2000
actor: Mary Andrews "Archie Andrews"; [removed] Aldrich "Aldrich Family"
10-06-1899 - Mitchell Leisen - Menominee, MI - d. 10-28-1972
director: Lux Radio Theatre
11-02-1892 - Alice Brady - NYC - d. 10-28-1939
actor: "Hollywood Hotel"
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:01:50 -0400
From: Jim Widner <jwidner@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Old Time Radio Related Search Engine
I have improved my old time radio search engine on my web site by
harnessing some of Google's technology. It should be pretty
comprehensive for radio related searches. Feel free to give it a try at:
[removed]
or off my home page:
[removed]
Jim Widner
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:02:08 -0400
From: "A. Joseph Ross" <joe@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject: Mike Wallace
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:22:02 -0400
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
Yes, there was a Quiz Kids on television in the 1950's and 1960's. I
seem to recall that Jack Barry was the narrator, and possibly, Mike
[removed] may be wrong about Mike Wallace, though. It seems like he
was the narrator at one time. He did have a kids show in the 1950's on
television called, "Winky Dink and You."It was apuppet show like Shari
Lewis had. Mike Wallace was all over radio and television in the 40's
and 70's, and up to the 2000's on television, as a host or [removed]
a resume he has to fall back on! Several dealers have many Quiz Kids
shows for sale if you would care to contact me off-line.
I remember Mike Wallace as the quizmaster on one of the big-money
quiz shows of the 1950s, something called "The Big Surprise." He
apparently started out doing various sorts of entertainment shows,
and then moved to doing interviews of news personalities. I seem to
remember the first of those that I saw, in which he interviewed Abba
Eban, who at that time was Israel's ambassador to the United States.
According to Alex McNeil's "Total Television," Jack Barry was the
host of "Winky-Dink and You." He lists The Quiz Kids as having been
on television, first on NBC and then on CBS, from 1949 to 1953 and
says that Joe Kelly, who hosted the radio version, was the first host
on television, later succeeded by Clifton Fadiman.
I don't remember the Quiz Kids on radio or television, except that I
remember they once appeared on the Howdy Doody Show, probably around
1950.
--
A. Joseph Ross, [removed] [removed]
15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax [removed]
Boston, MA 02108-2503 [removed]
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:48:59 -0400
From: "Sammy Jones" <sjones69@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Amos 'n' Andy recordings
Does anyone out there on the list know of any devolpments in the "Finding
Recordings of the Serial Amos 'n' Andy Dept."?
I know several people on this list are hard-core A&A enthusiasts, so if
there's any news or even 3rd hand rumors of A&A serial-era recordings
turning up, I'd like to know!
Thanks in advance,
Sammy Jones
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:49:47 -0400
From: "Gary Dixon" <argy@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: Fred Allen and a comment to Travis
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I always find it interesting that we get the "Fred Allen is or isn't funny"
comments at least twice a year in the OTR digest.
Some collectors claim that Fred had humor that was appropriate for the time
period it was released, but doesn't work very well now. Others believe that
Fred's best work was with Jack Benny. And a few feel that it was necessary to
have an extensive knowledge of the English language in order to appreciate
Fred's talent with words. I honestly find his humor to be more 'reactionary'
than funny. Fred rarely missed a beat when he responded to comment by one of
his cast members, Jack Benny or anybody else he interacted with on the air.
His remarks weren't necessarily funny, but he knew how to get 'the last word
in' on any subject.
An OTR member member named Travis made the remark that 'old turntables should
be seen and not heard!' While I can certainly understand his frustration
about certain transcriptions not sounding as clean as a new CD [removed]
might want to remember that many of the shows we enjoy were recorded direct to
16" [removed] on acetate tape that has seen better days? And all the digital
'clean-up' in the world won't correct an imperfect original source that has
distortion, build in scratches or skips in the grooves that gradually
developed thanks to a bad stylus or tape head.
Gary
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:12:46 -0400
From: "Joe Mackey" <joemackey108@[removed];
To: "otrd" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject: This week in radio history 29 October to 4
November
>From Those Were The Days --
10/30
Orson Welles, known to radio audiences as The Shadow, presented his famous
dramatization of [removed] Wells' The War of the Worlds on CBS's Mercury Theater
at 8 [removed]
10/31
1942 - One of the great wartime shows premiered. CBS debuted Thanks to the
Yanks, starring Bob Hawk. It became one of the most popular of the wartime
programs.
11/1
1937 - The first broadcast of Hilltop House was aired on CBS; while on NBC,
the comic strip character Terry and the Pirates debuted.
11/2
1931 - Myrt and Marge was heard for the first time -- on CBS. The program
centered on two chorus girls who competed for the same parts and the same
men. The creator and writer (Cliff Thomas wrote some) of the series, Myrtle
Vail, also played the role of Myrt; and the original Marge was performed by
Vail's daughter, Donna Fick. Three other performers played the part when
Donna died giving birth. Myrt and Marge continued for 11 years.
Joe
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