Subject: [removed] Digest V2004 #365
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 11/15/2004 10:19 AM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2004 : Issue 365
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Re: Rochester                         [ Dixonhayes@[removed] ]
  Re: ipod vs. OTR                      [ Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed]; ]
  This Budd's For US                    [ <adf3@[removed]; ]
  my favorite voices                    [ benohmart@[removed] ]
  Here's Morgan!                        [ Bhob <bhob2@[removed]; ]
  11-15 births/deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  Sexy voices                           [ "Scott D. Livingston" <sandl@qwest. ]
  Great Voice                           [ PGreco2254@[removed] ]
  Re: voices                            [ Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed]; ]
  Goldbergs' Hanukkah Bush?             [ Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed]; ]
  Shirley Temple Black                  [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  "Buzz Corry"                          [ "RBB" <oldradio@[removed]; ]
  iPod not the Holy Grail               [ Richard Carpenter <sinatra@ragingbu ]
  satellite OTR                         [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  SPERDVAC 2004                         [ David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed] ]
  Howard Blue and Burgess Meredith      [ Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed]; ]
  Distinct Voices                       [ JimBourg@[removed] ]
  October 2004 deaths                   [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:46:03 -0500
From: Dixonhayes@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Rochester
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In a message dated 11/13/04 11:17:28 AM Central Standard Time,
[removed]@[removed] writes:

There was a TV show in which Andy Devine actually substituted for
Rochester.   It was a  "Shower of Stars" special in February 1958,
in which Jack Benny, at long last, turned 40.

I wonder if that's the one where Eddie Anderson had an on-set heart attack
during rehearsal.  I just bought a 1958 Life magazine that shows Anderson
being
hauled into an ambulance and Benny looking distraught during rehearsal.  Turns
out it was a mild attack.

Dixon

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:46:37 -0500
From: Jim Widner <widnerj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: ipod vs. OTR

At 12:18 PM 11/14/2004, you wrote:
Being a Mac user, the iPod interfaces easily with my computer. My son,
who uses a PC, ended up installing a Firewire card because the uploads
were slow via USB (what I'd read was that the iPod only works with USB
[removed], but my son tells me that's not true, but it is slower - best to
research your system before buying I would think).

I use my ipod everywhere with all kinds of OTR on it. It seems to play
anything I have loaded. I have a PC and started out interfacing it with my
PC. My wife uses the slower USB with her mini-ipod and I used USB [removed] with
my own PC for my Ipod (we are a two ipod family!).

Anyway, I switched to a firewire cable because indeed it is faster on the
downloads.  I also use a special PC software that allows me to move files
FROM the ipod back to a PC, so if ever I had a crash, etc. the files are
recoverable. There is MAC related software that allows this too, though
Apple does not provide for this two way management - it is all third party
software.

I am sure there are cheaper alternatives depending upon your needs, but my
Ipod travels everywhere with me both for otr as well as music.

Jim Widner

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:47:41 -0500
From: <adf3@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  This Budd's For US

11-14-1905 - Wilbur "Budd" Hulick - Asbury Park, NJ
comedian: "Stoopnagle and Budd"; Mortimer Meek "Meet Mr. Meek"

I recently asked Tom DeLong if "Budd" was still alive.  Does anyone know if
he is and/or where he would be living at age 99?
"Stoopnagle and Budd" were forerunners of the understated, absurdist,
modern-cool school of comedy who's work still seems fresh and undated today.
Anthony DiFlorio

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:47:46 -0500
From: benohmart@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  my favorite voices

Great thread! As some of you may know, voice actors to me are Tops. I'm actually a 
bigger voice actor fan than a radio fan. I consider the lead of the Jerky Boys to be one 
of the top of the heap today - even if you don't like his humor, his voice(s) are rather 
incredible. Sue Perkins is my favorite of the Current female voice actors (and she's very 
attractive too!), doing great BBC work on The 99p Challenge and It's Been a Bad 
Week. 

As for the 'classics' - the cartoon Alice in Wonderland has one of the best voice casts 
ever assembled. Next year will see biographies of 2 people from it: Verna Felton 
(Queen of Hearts, Dennis Day's mom on Jack Benny) by Fredrick Tucker (he's 
uncovered some Great info and Rare pictures), and Jerry Colonna, written by his son 
Bob. 

I also have great respect for Paul Frees, Mel Blanc, Frank Nelson, Marvin Miller and the 
incredible Marlin Hurt. I still find it hard to believe Marlin is Beulah. How can this be?!

Ben Ohmart

Old radio. Old movies. New books.
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:21:30 -0500
From: Bhob <bhob2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Here's Morgan!

I'm still hoping someone here can come up with an explanation of Henry
Morgan's gag about the composer Alfred Newman that inspired MAD to use
the name Alfred E. Neuman. Sources are contradictory. Here's something
from Wikipedia: "The character takes his name from Alfred Newman, a
member of a well-known family of film composers, who made a series of
blackout radio appearances that had amused Kurtzman years earlier."

"Blackout" comedy on radio? The term seems inappropriate and calls into
question the entire sentence (which doesn't mention Henry Morgan). Other
sources say that Alfred Newman was the name of a character on the Morgan
radio show which seems more likely.

Any thoughts? (as Billy Crystal would say when satirizing Joe Franklin)
If not, any other memories of Henry Morgan's show? I only recall hearing
it a few times in 1949-1950.

Bhob

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:21:37 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  11-15 births/deaths

November 15th births

11-15-1879 - Lewis Stone - Worcester, MA - d. 9-12-1953
actor: Judge James Hardy "Hardy Family"
11-15-1881 - Franklin Pierce Adams - Chicago, IL - d. 3-24-1960
panelist: "Information Please"
11-15-1890 - Samuel Ornitz - NYC - d. 3-11-1957
hollywood ten screen writer: "House Unamerican Activities Committee"
11-15-1919 - Carol Bruce - Great Neck, NY
singer: "Ben Bernie Orchestra"; "Carton of Cheer"
11-15-1919 - Veronica Lake - Brooklyn, NY - d. 7-7-1975
actress: "Exploring the Unknown"; "Request Performance"
11-15-1923 - Robert Barron - NYC - d. 5-28-2002
actor: Flint Blackbeard "Jack Armstrong"
11-15-1929 - Ed Asner - Kansas City, MO
actor: "Odyssey of Homer"; "We Hold These Truths"
11-15-1932 - Petula Clark - Ewell, Surrey, England
singer: "Vanity Bandbox"; "Guard Session"
11-15-1946 - Janet Lennon - Culver City, CA
singer: (The Lennon Sisters) "Music on Deck"; "Voices of Vista"; "Guest Star"

November 15th deaths

01-16-1890 - Lloyd Bacon - San Jose, CA - d. 11-15-1955
film director: "Screen Guild Theatre"; " Screen Director's Playhouse"
01-25-1924 - Speedy West - Springfield, MO - d. 11-15-2003
steel guitarist: "Grand Old Opry"; "Tennessee Ernie FordShow"
02-22-1890 - Enid Markey - Dillon, CO - d. 11-15-1981
actress: Lillian Burke "Woman of Courage"
04-28-1878 - Lionel Barrymore - Philadelphia, PA - d. 11-15-1954
actor: Leonard Gillispie "Dr. Kildare"; Ebenezzer Scrooge "A Christmas Carol"
05-05-1914 - Tyrone Power - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-15-1958
actor: Dean Edwards "Freedom [removed]"
06-10-1897 - Boris Kroyt - d. 11-15-1969
violinist: (Member of the Budapest String Quaratet) "Library of Congress
Concert"
08-28-1898 - Charlie Grimm - St. Louis, MO - d. 11-15-1983
Sportscaster:(Jolly Cholly) WBBM Chicago
10-18-1913 - Evelyn Venable - Cincinnati, OH - d. 11-15-1993
actress: "Lux Radio Theatre"; "Stars of Tomorrow 1934"
12-19-1888 - Fritz Reiner - Budapest, Hungary - d. 11-15-1963
conductor: "Curtis Institute Musicale"; "Ford Sunday Evening Hour"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:21:46 -0500
From: "Scott D. Livingston" <sandl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Sexy voices

Paul Adomite asked who had the sexiest voice in OTR. Can any female voice
beat the sexy smoothness of Cathy Lewis? None that I know of!

Scott "Fibber" Livingston

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:21:54 -0500
From: PGreco2254@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Great Voice
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Hi,
  Other great voices of [removed] Lovejoy, Jeff Chandler,
Raymond Burr, Eve Arden, Ralph Bell, Howard McNear, Parley
Baer, Hans Conreid, Joseph Cotton. Agnes Moorehead.
Pete

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:02:20 -0500
From: Steve Lewis <stevelewis62@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: voices

Which OTR voices did you think were the sexiest of the time?

G. I. Jill

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:58:22 -0500
From: Bill Jaker <bilj@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Goldbergs' Hanukkah Bush?

    One of the OTR publications used to run an ad in every issue from
someone looking for a program from "The Goldbergs" series entitled "The
Hanukkah Bush".  Does anyone know if that episode has ever been found?
Is there any information about it?

--Bill Jaker

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:59:13 -0500
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Shirley Temple Black

On page two of my Parade magazine in today's (Sunday) newspaper, Walter
Scott's "Personality Parade" page, a writer asked a question about the child
actress, Shirley Temple for his answer.  There is an early b/w photo of her
with her trademark, curly hair smiling behind an RCA ribbon microphone with
the letters  "F B C" on it.  No date indicated, but maybe it is a
late-1930's publicity studio from her studio.

Anyone recollect what the "F B C" might represent?  It is "Something"
Broadcasting Company, for sure, but nothing comes to my mind, however.
Perhaps it was just a mic prop used in one of her films and the network
letters are just make-believe-radio.  Any "FBC" suggestions out there?
Thanks.

Russ Butler  oldradio@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:46:09 -0500
From: "RBB" <oldradio@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  "Buzz Corry"

Ed Kemmer has died at age 84.  He played the heroic "Buzz Corry" on the
popular 1950's children's science-fiction program "Space Patrol."  It was on
the ABC radio network as well as on TV as a 15-minute show that debuted on
the new visual medium, March 9, 1950.  The show expanded to a half-hour and
ran until 1959.  Buzz was the steel-jawed commander of the 30th Century
battle cruiser, "Terra V."

Ed Kemmer was a real-life war hero, a WWII fighter pilot who spent 11 months
in a German prison camp before studying acting at The Pasadena (CA)
Playhouse on the GI Bill.  In 1964, he moved to New York and spent 19 years
as a regular actor on TV soaps.

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:46:42 -0500
From: Richard Carpenter <sinatra@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  iPod not the Holy Grail

    Recent postings have sung the praises of the iPod
for storing and listening to OTR shows. But although
the iPod gets most of the publicity, it may not be the
best option for Windows users. Some users have said
that while it works seamlessly with a Mac, the results
with Windows can be somewhat less stellar. I use a
Dell DJ for both music and old time radio, and it
works easily and perfectly with my computer. Not only
that, my 20 gigabyte model cost about half what an
iPod does.
    And then there are CD-R players that cost less
than either and may be more cumbersome, but they do a
great job, too.

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:47:12 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  satellite OTR

which contains edited
(hacked-up) OTR to make room for the stream of contemporary commercials
they
add into the service. Much like "When Radio Was," if you're interested in
OTR, you won't be interested at all in listening to their service.

I happened across a satellite radio display at Wal-mart the other day and
was transfixed by the selection of programming available thereupon.  I
brought up the OTR channel and there was The Life of Riley. I stood there
and listened to OTR for the first time in many months.

While I have eminent respect for the historians and preservers of OTR
programs, I engage in neither pursuit.  I like to listen to the old shows,
but none are broadcast in my area.  So I think satellite radio would be a
good choice for the likes of me.

Though the shows are trimmed for contemporary advertisements and edited for
audio clarity, they are listenable, fascinating, entertaining and available.
This is precisely what is needed to maintain and renew interest as older
devotees die off.

M Kinsler

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:48:25 -0500
From: David Siegel <otrdsiegel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  SPERDVAC  2004

    As an OTR hobbyist since the mid 1960's and one who has been attending
FOTR Conventions from the very beginning it has been my pleasure to have
met a number of west coast and Middle America collectors either at Newark
or through our travels or as a result of trades over the years.
    The temptation for this "over the hill New Yorker" to make it out to
SPERDVAC'S annual convention was always one which my wife and I would, PUT
OFF UNTIL NEXT YEAR  ......  that is until this year, when we finally made
the plunge and  I am delighted to report that we had the time of our lives.
     Yes SPERDVAC is different in many ways from FOTR but being different
simply means that an attendee gets a perspective of the hobby and of his
fellow hobbyists that can only be enriching.
     While I will return to Newark on a continuing basis I must publicly
thank the SPERDVAC hosts (Bobb Lynes and his committee) for organizing one
great convention and further strongly recommend that fans who, like myself,
may have put off attending in the past, for whatever reason, begin now
saving your nickels and dimes so that you can be there in November of 2005.
     I won't comment on the program since the details have appeared on line
earlier (except to say that things went off without a single flaw) nor will
I comment on the dealers room (except to say that I left a substantial
amount in the hands of at least one dealer), not will I comment about the
hotel (whose rates were most modest and whose service was exceptionable.
      What strangely was to me at least the true highlight of my attendance
was meeting several fellows, one from the state of Kentucky and the other
from the state of Washington, both of whom turned out to be hobbyists who I
truly hope to continue to exchange ideas, jokes, and perhaps even some otr
material long into the future.
     Making new friends and renewing old friendships makes events like
these truly memorable.
Dave  Siegel

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:36:53 -0500
From: Dan Hughes <danhughes@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Howard Blue and Burgess Meredith

Howard Blue has graciously allowed me to post his Burgess Meredith piece
on the net.  The story is from Howard's book WORDS AT WAR.

Access it here (and also see a photo of Burgess in his radio days):

[removed]

---Dan

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:37:02 -0500
From: JimBourg@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Distinct Voices
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Got to include Raymond  Burr.

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:31:24 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  October 2004 deaths

October 2004 deaths

07-06-1927 - Janet Leigh - Merced, CA - d. 10-3-2004
actress: "Cresta Blanca Hollywood Players" - Radio Debut
11-22-1921 - Rodney Dangerfield - Babylon, Long Island, NY - d. 10-5-2004
comedian: "Voices of Vista"
06-04-1919 - Robert Merrill - Brooklyn, NY - d. 10-23-2004
singer: "An Evening with Romberg"; "Robert Merrill Show"
08-26-1907 - Lester Lanin - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-27-2004
bandleader: "Lester Lanin and His Orchestra"; "Here's to Veterans"
08-28-1924 - Peggy Ryan - Long Beach, CA - d. 10-30-2004
dancer, actress: "Mail Call"; "Bob Hope Show"; "Proudly We Hail"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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