Subject: [removed] Digest V2005 #9
From: [removed]@[removed]
Date: 1/10/2005 4:19 AM
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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2005 : Issue 9
                         A Part of the [removed]!
                             [removed]
                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Too Much Mickey!                      [ Randy Collins <rlcollins1@adelphia. ]
  truth, justice, and killing them out  [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  Unfamiliar Words                      [ John Mayer <mayer@[removed]; ]
  Actors in Lum And Abner               [ "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@run ]
  Re: Beguine/Lehrer/TW3                [ Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed]; ]
  re: Mairzy Doats                      [ "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@ea ]
  AFRS Ain't what it used to be         [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
  Silly lyrics                          [ Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed] ]
  Re: 1-9 births/deaths                 [ "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed]; ]
  1-10 births/deaths                    [ Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed]; ]
  The Bear Missed the Train             [ "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed] ]
  Mairzy Doats                          [ skallisjr@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:30:53 -0500
From: Randy Collins <rlcollins1@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Too Much Mickey!

Oh boy, an otr star (Shorty Bell, Hardy Family, Lux, Suspense, etc.) has
made national headlines in the last couple of days. Looks like Mickey
Rooney still has a mischievous streak after all these years. See what
Mickey is up to here at USA Today:

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Also, check out Mickey's official site at [removed] for plenty
of info on the legendary performer. He first appeared in a film in 1926!
After checking out the link above, you'll see Mickey's still 'appearing'
today. :-) Randy C.

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:31:20 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  truth, justice, and killing them outright

Sorry, folks.  As a kid I liked red meat.  I also thought the Lone Ranger
and
Tom Mix should try shooting some of those bad guys dead, instead of just
shooting the guns out of their hands -- a feat whose practicality I
questioned
even at an early age.

I noticed that quite a while back as well, though more in comic books and
TV.  Fictional heroes never kill anyone, at least not on purpose.  Even when
they dropped off the cliff whilst escaping, Superman would scoop them up and
deposit them gently in the exercise yard of the nearest state prison.  Hell,
even The Phantom doesn't kill anyone; he just knocks them out with his skull
ring even today.

Perhaps it's an unwritten rule of popular adventure writing that the good
guys never kill anyone, even when justified.

Can you really shoot a gun out of someone's hand, for real?  I always
wondered if that worked.

M Kinsler

who will begin research immediately.

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:35:40 -0500
From: John Mayer <mayer@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Unfamiliar Words

"Michael Guccione" <jetbonami@[removed]; commented:
Another great mystery is, 'sala cadoola metcha caboola bibbity
bobbity boo', but I think this one is beyond definition.

If memory serves, I believe the phrase is, "Ala kazoola, mitcha
[removed]" It is, of course, part of the formula for converting
pumpkins to carriages.

[No, I'm being silly, not pedantic.]

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:10:38 -0500
From: "Matthew Bullis" <matthewbullis@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Actors in Lum And Abner

Hello, just wondering who played in the show beside Norris and Chet? I'm
listening to the show in chronological order, one episode at a time at
night. As near as I can figure it, Grandpap, Cedric, and of course Lum are
the same voice from Chet. Norris's voice was harder to figure out, because
as Abner, his voice was already an affectation, so I went and listened to a
tribute from 1966 where they talked normally, and was able to pick out
Norris's real voice. Am I right that he did the voice of Dick Huddleston
then? What about Squire? Since I'm nowhere near through the whole series,
still being in May of 35 now, were there other characters that were played
by other actors, or were all the voices portrayed by those two? If they
were, is there an episode where one of them got mixed up and said something
in the wrong voice?
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:11:45 -0500
From: Art Chimes <[removed]@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Beguine/Lehrer/TW3

Tom Lehrer (1928- ) until very recently at least was still teaching at the
University of California in Santa Cruz.

The connection between Tom Lehrer and TW3 on the one hand and Henry Morgan
and OTR on the other is that Morgan was among the most prominent
personalities on NBC-TV's version of "That Was The Week That Was" in its
first (1964) season. In its second season, TW3 featured OTR mainstay Elliott
"Ted" Reid and introduced Tom Lehrer to the unhip part of America who hadn't
yet discovered him.

In the late 1960s, a recall hearing Tom Lehrer songs on Larry Josephson's
groundbreaking morning program on WBAI in New York, "In the Beginning."
(WBAI, the Pacifica station, was also at this time rebroadcasting 15-minute
solo "Here's Morgan" programs that Henry Morgan did at WBAI in 1959 when it
was a commercial station.)

Josephson is the latter-day producer of work by Bob and Ray.
[removed].

See, all this stuff _is_ connected!

Art

PS, and OT: Anyone know who wrote the TW3 segment on Prime Time? Our greedy
ABC affiliate in Washington, WJLA, cuts the network closing credits so it can
get a head start on its profitable local news.

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:38:55 -0500
From: "Michael J. Hayde" <michaelhayde@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: Mairzy Doats

After commenting on the "translation," as it were, of "Mairzy Doats," Michael
Guccione added:
Another great mystery is, 'sala cadoola metcha caboola bibbity bobbity boo',
but I think this one is beyond definition.

Well, yes and no.  "Bibbidy, Bobbidy, Boo" comes from the Walt Disney feature
version of "Cinderella" from 1949.  It's the incantation spoken by
Cinderella's fairy godmother that turns the pumpkin into a coach, the mice
into horses, the horse into a coachman, etc.  Apparently the song made the
hit parade - in fact, Dean Martin sang it on the final broadcast of the first
Martin & Lewis radio series on January 30, 1950.

Michael

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:14:09 -0500
From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  AFRS Ain't what it used to be

I received an email from a fellow who's in Iraq
This little portion of his letter answers any
questions that I've been pondering about what
AFRS currently broadcasts.

I'm a big fan of Old Time Radio shows, in particular, Fibber McGee and
Molly, The Great Gildersleeve, Jack Benny, and a
few of the other classic
comedy shows.

I'm in desparate need of some decent entertainment
and the local Armed
Forces FM Radio doesn't cut it (I'm not a big fan
of rap or Brittany Spears
which is all they play here),<<

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:27:38 -0500
From: Al Girard <24agirard24@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Silly lyrics

Another great mystery is, 'sala cadoola metcha caboola bibbity bobbity boo'

And who could forget the ever-popular

"Chickery chick, cha-la, cha-la
Check-a-la romey in a bananika
Bollika, wollika, can't you see
Chickery chick is me?"

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:28:53 -0500
From: "HARLAN ZINCK" <zharlan@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re: 1-9 births/deaths

Ron Sayles writes:

January 9th deaths

01-12-1894 - Tommy Handley - Liverpool, England - d. 1-9-1949
comedian: "Hancock's Half Hour"

I'll probably not be the only one to note that Tommy Handley was not part of
"Hancock's Half Hour" but rather the long-time star of "It's That Man
Again" -- better known as ITMA -- the BBC's wildly popular 1940's radio
comedy series. (It was vaguely the UK equivalent of "Fibber McGee and
Molly," at least in its weekly collection of catch phrases and colorful
characters with interesting dialects.) Tony Hancock was, of course, the star
of "Hancock's Half Hour," which was a 1950's BBC radio sensation that later
transferred to TV.

Kudos to Ron for his endlessly hard work in compiling these lists. They're
much appreciated, Ron!

Harlan Zinck

PS: BTW, thanks to Jim Harmon, who has now put a new (and rather troubling)
image in my mind: Paddy O'Cinnamon, armed with a tiny machine gun, fighting
off the Nazi hoardes. "Take that," he says in his Irish brogue. Rat tat tat
tat tat tat!

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:28:05 -0500
From: Ron Sayles <bogusotr@[removed];
To: Olde Tyme Radio List <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1-10 births/deaths

January 10th births

01-10-1883 - Francis X. Bushman - Norfolk, VA - d. 8-23-1966
actor: John Fairchild "Step Mother"; Peter Standish "Betty and Bob"
01-10-1891 - Finney Briggs - d. 9-1978
actor, writer: WBCN Chicago
01-10-1904 - Ray Bolger - Dorchester, MA - d. 1-15-1987
singer, dancer: "Ray Bolger Show"
01-10-1908 - Paul Henreid - Trieste - d. 3-29-1992
actor: "Suspense"; "Lux Radio Theatre"
01-10-1914 - Polly Rowles - Philadelphia, PA - d. 10-7-2001
actress: Nita's Aunt "Lone Journey"
01-10-1916 - Don Gardiner - d. 3-27-1977
newscaster, announcer: "Monday Morning Headlines"; "Gangbusters";
"Counterspy"
01-10-1927 - Gisele Mackenzie - Winnipeg, Canada - d. 9-5-2003
singer: "[removed] Woolworth Hour"; "Mario Lanza Show"; "Club 15"; "Meet
Giesele"

January 10th deaths

02-07-1885 - Sinclair Lewis - Sauk Centre, MN - d. 1-10-1951
novelist: "Campbell Playhouse"; "Ford Theatre"; "Cavalcade of America"

02-22-1907 - Sheldon Leonard - NYC - d. 1-10-1997
comedian: Tout "Jack Benny Program"; Joe Crunchmiller "Judy Canova
Show"
03-10-1919 - Marion Hutton - Battle Creek, MI - d. 1-10-1987
singer: (Sister of Betty), (Glenn Miller Orchestra) "Moonlight
Serenade"
04-17-1905 - Arthur Lake - Corbin, KY - d. 1-10-1987
actor: (Brother of Florence Lake) Dagwood Bumstead "Blondie"
04-29-1903 - Frank Parker - NYC - d. 1-10-1999
singer: "A & P Gypsies"; "Jack Benny Program"; "Frank Parker Show
05-14-1905 - Herbert Morrison - d. 1-10-1989
announcer: Hindenburg Disaster; "Call to Arms"; "Good Old Days of
Radio"
05-27-1894 - Dashiell Hammett - St. Mary's County, MD - d. 1-10-1961
author: "Fat Man"; "Adventures of Sam Spade"
06-18-1917 - Richard Boone - Los Angeles, CA - d. 1-10-1981
actor: "Dragnet"
07-26-1903 - Donald Voorhees - Allentown, PA - d. 1-10-1989
conductor: "Show Boat"; "Cavalcade of America"; "Telephone Hour"
08-05-1890 - Al Goodman - Nikopol, Russia - d. 1-10-1972
orchestra leader: "Fred Allen Show"; "Al Goodman's Musical Album";
"Your Hit Parade"
08-12-1893 - Howard Smith - Attleboro, MA - d. 1-10-1968
actor: Will Brown "Aldrich Family"; Jack Galloway "Jane Arden"
09-07-1900 - Everson Tracy - Philadelphia, PA - d. 1-10-1967
actor: Fred Thompson "One Man's Family"
10-22-1916 - Sidney Miller - Shenandoah, PA - d. 1-10-2004
actor-director-songwriter: "Eddie Cantor Show"; "Jeff Regan, Private
Investigator"
11-11-1904 - Joe Penner - Magybecskereck, Hungary - d. 1-10-1941
comedian: "Joe Penner Program"; "Penners of Park Avenue"
11-23-1917 - John Newland - Cincinnati, OH - d. 1-10-2000
actor: "Cavalcade of America"; "NBC University Theatre of the Air"
--
Ron Sayles
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:26:37 -0500
From: "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  The Bear Missed the Train

Ken Piletic asked recently about The Bear Missed the Train.

My question is:
Who recorded that record, and any other information about  it.  I'd like
to get a copy of it.   Thanks.
The Bear Missed The Train, And Now He's Walkin' (etc.  etc.)"

Information on [removed] the definitive website for information on all
things about Jean Shepherd says that THE BEAR MISSED THE TRAIN was recorded
by a group called The Smith Street Society Jazz Band in 1973. They sent Shep
a promo copy that he frequently used on his radio show. The group also
appeared on the Shep TV show, Shepherd's Pie, January 31, 1978 where they
performed the song. A cassette of the song can be puchased. Below is the URL
for the webpage about it You can listen to the song there too.

[removed]

Excelsior!

JIm Yellen

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:27:45 -0500
From: skallisjr@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Mairzy Doats

Michael Guccione, speaking of the lyrics to Mairzy Doats (the translation
was spelled out in the song, notes,

Another great mystery is, 'sala cadoola metcha caboola bibbity bobbity
boo', but I think this one is beyond definition.

That's because those constituted the magic words the three Good Fairies
used to transform Cinderella and the pumpkin into a bell of the ball and
her coach (transportation) in the Disney feature cartoon.

Another song of the period was "Chicory Chick," whose lyrics are:

Chicory chick, cha-ls, cha-la
Checkelaromi in a bananica.
Wallaka Wallaka, can't you see?
Chicory chick is me.

My favorite of that period has fully understandable words, and is a good
fit for the music, but has a rather incoherent message, when parsed:
Dancing In the Dark.

Dancing in the Dar
O
Till the tune ends.
We're dancing in the dark,
And it soon ends.
We're waltzing in the wonder
Of why we're here.
Time hurries by -
We're here and gone.
Looking for the light
Of a new love
To brighten up the night.
I've got you, love.
And we will face the music together,
Dancing, yes, just dancing in the dark.

So there you go.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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