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                            The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                              Volume 2007 : Issue 41
                         A Part of the [removed]!
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                                 ISSN: 1533-9289


                                 Today's Topics:

  Items to Ponder                       [ "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed] ]
  Communism and [removed]                [ "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed] ]
  Name Changes                          [ Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@sbcgl ]
  blacklist                             [ "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed] ]
  1/2 shows                             [ "EDWARD J. CARR" <edcarr@[removed] ]
  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK               [ "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@c ]
  Call Letters                          [ Russ Butler <songbook2@[removed]; ]
  Red Menace                            [ "Robert Birchard" <bbirchard@earthl ]
  Re: Red Menace                        [ Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@rocketmai ]
  Red Scare                             [ "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed] ]
  Changing OTR Names                    [ "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed] ]
  ADMINISTRIVIA: One more [removed]      [ Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed] ]
  Red menace redux                      [ Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed]; ]
  RE: The Lone Ranger's First Name (UN  [ "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed] ]
  Barney Beck                           [ Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed]; ]
  Flash Gordon's Raymond/Marine Patch   [ Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed] ]

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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:21:43 -0500
From: "[removed]@[removed]" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Items to Ponder

My life will never be complete until little unexplanable  facts are
finally solved. These are mysteries of situation comedies, some
detective - police series and some adventure series. I have been
pondering these situations for years.

Ozzie & Harriet - 2 boy, nice home, no job & no money problems. Where
did their money come from?

Amos & Andy - Amos had a Taxi cab. Andy seldom had a job But dated
women  King Fish was boss of the lodge  that was broke, married and his
wife didn't work. They never ate meals.

Boston Blackie - was he a criminal, or a detective? How did live never
had a job or stole money?

Burns & Allen  - George didn't work, but had had a good home and lots of
friends. only mentioned their show on rare occasions, but no income or
job. Never seem to want for anything and at one time had a cook or a maid.

The Cisco & Pancho didn't have gold mine or jobs. They just wander all
over the west, with no money

Duffy's Tavern - served bad food  Never seemed to have any customers,
but tavern did business for yeas and the owner, who had no first name,
was never there. Archie had no last name. How did it stay open?

Fibber McGee & Molly - Lived in a nice house, had a bank account, had a
cook, Beulah, for a while, was member of the Elks Club, and I assume
they bought food. They lived fairly well on what income? Fibber never
worked after 1939.

Matt Cvetic - an under cover spy for the FBI , member of the Communist
party. Did he have [removed] Did The FBI pay Him? Did the Communist  Party
Pay him?

 Luigi- had and Antique Shop Did he cver sell any thing?

 Harry Lime, The third Man., He was a con man , but how did he live
between scores?

Spave Patrol and Buck Roger Junped from Planet to Planet  and we know
today It can take years to go a planet. They sure showed how simple it
was. on Radio.

These Items have bother me for years  probably because my father use to
use to ask these questions when I was just a kid. So these things have
stuck in my mind for over 65 yearsand into the 1950'[removed] Does any one
have answers?

Frank McGurn

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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:58:48 -0500
From: "Ted Kneebone" <tkneebone1@[removed];
To: "Old Time Radio Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Communism and [removed]

Thanks to the many who contributed to my question about Communism on radio.
I will copy all your remarks and save them.  It seems that in the 1950s if
you wanted to really hurt someone, you just called him a Communist or a Red.
Sen. Joseph McCarthy failed in his attempt to expose Communists in the Army.
I have a recording of Sen. Karl Mundt (R. SD) talking about the Communists,
but he calls them "Common-ists."  Mundt sent these ETs to South Dakota radio
stations to keep the public informed on his work in Congress.  I think that
may be the same program on which he interviews J. Edgar Hoover, head of the
FBI.

Ted Kneebone / 1528 S. Grant St. / Aberdeen, SD 57401
[removed]~stmarkch/

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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:59:12 -0500
From: Stuart Lubin <stuartlubin6686@[removed];
To: Time Radio Digest Old Time Radio Digest <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Name Changes

Here are a couple more for you, Derek:  Jeff Chandler, before he
was Mr. Boynton, went under the name Ira (Last name began with a
G, such as Grosell, or something very much like that). When
Portia Faces Life announcer, George Putnam, came to Los Angeles
to do television news, after radio died, he had to change his
name because there was, and still is, a radio and television
personality by the same name.  So, he changed it to George
Arthur.  If I am wrong about the first name, Jim Cox can help
because we have had this discussion quite awhile ago, but not on
the Digest.

Stuart

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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:07:04 -0500
From: "Mark Kinsler" <kinsler33@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  blacklist

[ADMINISTRIVIA: This discussion will continue only so long as it remains
civil.  --cfs3]

Good idea.

I think that it's worth noting that the McCarthy Era coincided with the end
of OTR.  Many good writers and artists had to hide from the fury of the
Communist-hunters, and so the simple music shows that succeeded network
dramas on radio must have seemed lots safer and cheaper.

M Kinsler

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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:08:09 -0500
From: "EDWARD J. CARR" <edcarr@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  1/2 shows
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hi
i believe i asked this before, if not great, i have a number of 1/2 shows
(16in discs) of "skippy hollywood theater"
does anyone on this list have, or know some one who may have the same so we
can get together
thanks
ed carr@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:05:40 -0500
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <jerryhaendiges@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  OLDE TYME RADIO NETWORK

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:06:17 -0500
From: Russ Butler <songbook2@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Call Letters

Lee Munsick's post on the OTR Digest reminds me of the call letters of some
experimental radio stations, [removed]  W3XDD and W8XNU  before they had their
official call assigned by the government, or it could be for amateur "ham"
stations with the number following the "W" or "K" preface letter. The station
 "Z" (ZNS) is the call for an AM radio station in The Bahamas at
810, 1240 and 1540AM frequencies to cover the islands  I'm sure
others on the Digest will be more specific.

=Russ Butler  songbook2@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:06:39 -0500
From: "Robert Birchard" <bbirchard@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Red Menace
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    I would merely remind Brian Johnson that it is Fredric March (not
Frederic), Orson Welles (not Wells), and Katharine Hepburn (not Katherine)

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:07:31 -0500
From: Brent Pellegrini <brentpl@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Red Menace

Regarding Brian Johnson's essay on the Red Menace and Hollywood I have a question.
I've always understood that we have freedom of religion in the United States. I always wondered if
this notion of freedom  carried over to political thoughts and preference. I'm pretty ignorant
about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I grew up just assuming that I had freedom of
anything. In other words, does the Constitution give us the freedom to follow whatever political
theory or system we choose?
Back in the McCarthy era, was it illegal to be a communist? Was there a law on the books? If not,
I never understood why they could go after the Hollywood guys (or my father for that matter:do a
google search for "Canwell" + angelo pellegrini)

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:31:43 -0500
From: "Larry Siskind" <lasisk@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Red Scare

In response to Brian Johnson opinion of the Red Scare, I lived
through it and remember that people who expressed unpopular ideas
or defended those who were falsely accused of being "communist",
were themselves labelled "communists" or "dupes".  Walter
Winchell in his radio show on more than one occasioned claimed
that anyone who was critical of J Edgar Hoover was playing into
the hands of the Nation's enemies. As an example of the hysteria
of the time let me share this with you. When I  was about 15  I
bought a copy of the " Communist Daily Worker"  and placed it on
my uncle's desk without him knowing it.  I did it as a joke. I
later confronted him with the paper in his possession and accused
him of being a communist. He was horrified, didn't know how the
paper got there and asked me not to tell anyone.  Today a
reaction like that could never happen.   As a liberal, I loathed
Senator McCarthy's methods but I equally loathed the evils of
Soviet Russia.  History proved that  there were Soviet spies in
the [removed] and that they delivered atom bomb secrets to Russia.  A
listener today hearing Dana Andrews in "I Was A Communinist For
the FBI" would laugh and call the stories far  fetched as many
were; however, a student of communism would find that during the
1920's and 1930's  and later in Eastern Europe, "good" communists
were murdered by their own party because of "failure" or because
of intraparty intrigue.    After World War 2 and with the onset
of the Cold War, The American Communist Party rapidly declined.
When Stalin died in 1953 his successors lost control of the [removed]
party. Many former members of the party, some of whom I later
met, were not traitors to this country. They hated Capitalism and
were very much influenced by the evils of the Depression and of
racism. The Party fought both.  That was why they were
communists.  Under our constitution people have the right to hold
and express unpopular ideas and join unpopular groups as long as
they are not involved in violent or unlawful acts. The bottom
line was that many people, communists and non-communists,  were
persecuted because of their beliefs and because of  whom they
associated with, not for illegal acts.

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:31:51 -0500
From: "James Yellen" <clifengr3@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Changing OTR Names

How about Myron Wallace aka Mike Wallace.

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:59:44 -0500
From: Charlie Summers <charlie@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  ADMINISTRIVIA: One more [removed]

Folks;

   After reading the comments sent to the list regarding the Cold War (all of
which have been civil, BTW), I want to ask anyone interested in commenting to
please avoid all references to contemporary issues. I want to keep the
discussion focused firmly on the topic, and avoid it breaking down into an
argument about current foreign policy.

   I realize I'm managing this retroactively, and I apologize to those
posters who received a reject this morning because of this, but I really want
us to discuss this reasonably. Both sides of the debate have something to
teach us, which can't happen if we end up arguing over the contemporary
challenges facing us.

         Charlie

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:35:24 -0500
From: Hal Stone <otrjug@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Red menace redux

On the current thread (topic) re: communism in the entertainment
[removed] Charlie (you all know which one) [removed]

"[ADMINISTRIVIA: This discussion will continue only so long as it remains
civil.

I will try very hard to keep it polite and civil, but it is going to be very
difficult. Having lived through that period, and having worked with many of
the great Americans that Howard Blue demonizes in his book as having been
involved in the unmasking of Communists sympathizers and activists among New
York radio actors, I was very impressed with Brian Johnson's "unmasking" of
the facts.

Soviet Communism was a real threat to this country following WW II.
I have no patience with those who can't comprehend the real need for
patriotic activists to combat that insidious threat to our way of life.

Brian Johnson's piece was was masterful.

Howard Blue (and others) seem to be lost in the "romanticism" of the
Hollywood blacklist era. The problem with such an outlook (dare I say,
seen through "rose-colored" glasses) ignores the fact that the American
Communist Party was directly controlled by the Soviets and that Hollywood
was awash with CPUSA activists. After Boris Yeltsin opened up the files of
the old Soviet Union and the US government's declassification of the Venona
project, there is just too much historical evidence to allow that view to
continue to be expressed uncontested. There were A LOT of active Communists
in Hollywood in those days and their allegiance lay with Joseph Stalin.
They were NOT just "political progressives." The war against Communism, 
though it may not have been waged fairly on every level, was still a
necessity.

You Go, [removed] the Man!!!!

Brian ends [removed]

We do ourselves a disfavor when we rewrite history or ignore real threats to
make cheap political points.

May my dear friends Vinton Hayworth, Dwight Wiest, and others rest easy in
their graves knowing that they fought the good fight, and there are some of
us still around that will defend their actions against those misguided
individuals who write books maligning them, and who fail to understand, or
are unwilling (or incapable) of acknowledging, that their principal
motivation was unabashed patriotism, and their legitimate [removed]
defending democracy against a very real threat.

I did my part in the military during the Korean War. They fought the battle
on the home front.

Hal"Jughead"Stone

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:41:49 -0500
From: "Druian, Raymond B SPL" <[removed]@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  RE: The Lone Ranger's First Name
 (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

A while back, there was a thread on the list discussing Bill Conrad, as Matt
Dillon, walking into a bar and saying, "Hello, John," and the meaning of that
greeting. I thinik it's obvious that he was saying 'hello' to The Lone
Ranger.

[removed]
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:19:35 -0500
From: Bob Slate <moxnix1961@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Barney Beck
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And I think Barney Beck also did "Bobby Benson And His B-Bar-B Riders" over
WOR in New York.

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:10:15 -0500
From: Melanie Aultman <otrmelanie@[removed];
To: OTRDIGEST <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Flash Gordon's Raymond/Marine Patch
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According to At Ease  Reminisce Books l996, pg 130:

  (by Carl Crumpton, Topeka Kansas)
  "When I was a boy in Ogden, Kansas during the'30s, my hero was the intrepid
Flash Gordon.  So imagine my surprise and delight years later when Alex
Raymond--the creator of Flash Gordon--joined my unit, Marine Torpedo Bombing
Squadron EMTB-143, which flew from the escort carrier USS Gilbert Islands.

  Captain Raymond was the combat artist for our flight group, assigned to
paint pictures of life in a Marine Air Group flying from an aircraft carrier.
A true gentleman, he often allowed us to watch him work.

  We were one of the few squadrons to have two distinctly different patches
during World War II.  Alex Raymond created the second one for us in l945.
(picture)"

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