Subject: [removed] Digest V01 #229
From: <[removed]@[removed]>
Date: 7/16/2001 3:10 PM
To: <[removed]@[removed];

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                      The Old-Time Radio Digest!
                         Volume 01 : Issue 229
                   A Part of the [removed]!
                           ISSN: 1533-9289


                           Today's Topics:

 Linkletter                           [Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];       ]
 Re: Paul Harvey                      [Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed];    ]
 Calling All Cars                     ["Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed]]
 Re: William Bendix and Pearl Harbor  ["Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@hotmail]
 Bob Juhren                           [Barth Wysong <stargazerbw@[removed]]
 Hal Stone's comments                 ["Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];  ]
 Re: Bob Hastings                     [DETBoss@[removed]                    ]
 Radio Premiums and World War II      ["Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@]
 Re: Captain Midnight Decoder         [Cnorth6311@[removed]                 ]
 Granby's Green Acres                 ["Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed]]
 William Bendix and Pearl Harbor      [Ron Tilton <octave@[removed]; ]
 Son of Son of Calling All Cars       [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 Calling All Cars/Rosenquist          [Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed]]
 locating Eli Segal                   ["Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@charter-]
 re: William Bendix and Pearl Harbor  ["Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];   ]
 Andrews vs. Aldrich                  ["Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];]
 Dennis Day                           ["Michael Stein" <MSTEIN@[removed]]
 Re:A (Fudd) by any other name        [hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];    ]
 Second Bananas                       [Jim Murtaugh <JimM@[removed];   ]
 Involving the "Next Generation"      ["Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed];   ]

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:50:26 -0400
From: Michael Biel <mbiel@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Linkletter

In discussing game shows that were on both radio and TV, Kenneth Clarke
mentioned:

"People are Funny"--which became "Art Linkletter's House Party", I think

No, it remained "People Are Funny."  These were two separate and
distince programs on two different networks.  "Art Linkletter's House
Party" was an early afternoon daily program on CBS, and "People Are
Funny" was a weekly prime-time program on NBC.  He also had other
programs, including one on TV called "Life With Linkletter" which from
the one 16mm print I have looks very much like a prime-time House
Party.  He later reused that title in a program he did with his son Jack
in the 1970s.

Michael Biel  mbiel@[removed]

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:22:15 -0400
From: Merlin Haas <mvhaas@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Paul Harvey

     According to a newspaper report this week, radio commentator Paul
Harvey, one of the last direct links to the "Golden Age of Radio,"
will have outpatient surgery later this month to repair a weakened
vocal cord. Harvey has been off the air since mid-May recovering from
what he thought was laryngitis.
     Chris Berry, vice-president of ABC News Radio, said that doctors
at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., diagnosed the problem last
week and he expects Harvey to be back on the air "by the end of
August."

best -- Merlin Haas

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:22:48 -0400
From: "Jerry Haendiges" <Jerry@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Calling All Cars

George Wagner asked;

   Wasn't Mr. Rosenquist (NOT "Rosencrans") the
actual, real-life chief radio dispatcher for the Los
Angeles Police?

	Yes, Jesse Rosenquist was the first real-life dispatcher and it is actually
he that you hear on the programs.  Likewise, Chief James E. Davis was the
real-life Los Angeles Police Chief who initiated two-way communications in
the police department.  To find out more about Rosenquist and listen to him
in action, you can go to;
[removed]

	For more information on Chief Davis, the Los Angeles Police communications
setup and "Calling All Cars," you may go to;
[removed]

	"Calling All Cars" is not just another "Cop" show.  The series had a
specific goal in mind.  This was a cooperative effort between Chief Davis,
the Los Angeles Police Department and Rio Grande Gas Company.

	Actually it was designed for two purposes ... to sell Rio Grande Gasoline
and to tout the use of two-way radios in police cars.  As such, the stories
revolve around just how fast squad cars can get to the scene of a crime now
(1930s) as compared to a few years ago because of the radios ... and the
increased speed and power of Rio Grande Gas :-)

	I only have Chief Davis listed as appearing in a couple of broadcasts.  In
fact he was in almost all of the early programs.  He served as host,
narrator and commentator at the beginning and ending of the shows and in
various spots during the shows.  The cases are purported to be from actual
police records of the LAPD and other departments.  I have no way to verify
this fact, although it certainly sounds as if it could be true.  It uses
real names of real places in and around Los Angeles.  Since this was
strictly a local program, that lent a lot more realism to the stories as
listeners quickly related to the names and could actually "spot" where the
action was taking place.  I've even heard stories about people, after
listening to a broadcast, would go down to the location the next morning to
try and see the aftermath of a monstrous crime scene :-)  Many of the police
officials that appeared as narrator, were just plain awful.  They were
awkward, missed cues and lines and mispronounced just about everything.
Chief Davis, however was very good and I feel extremely authoritative in his
comments.  He comes across as having been personally involved in each and
every case.  He adds a lot of color to the narrative.

	May of the programs are quite hokey, but I think that just adds to the
charm of this early series.

	If you wish to find out more information on the series, you may go to my
Website, The Vintage Radio Place at <[removed]>.  Go down to the "Main
Table of Contents" and click on "Vintage Radio Logs."  Then just click on
"Calling All Cars," or any of the other over 500 logs listed there to view,
download or print out the log(s).  All programs with catalog or location
numbers are available for purchase there also on CD, Cassette and other
formats.

	You may also find this series listed in my on-line CD / cassette catalog
which is located at <[removed]> OTRSite On-Line Catalog.  To
use this catalog, your browser must be Frames compliant and you should be
running at a resolution setting of 800x600 or higher for best viewing
(although lower resolution settings may be used).

    I hope this helps.  If you have any other questions, please feel free to
contact me.

            Jerry Haendiges <jhaendiges@[removed];

  [removed]  The Vintage Radio Place

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:07:49 -0400
From: "Dave Walter" <fredallenfan@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: William Bendix and Pearl Harbor

I never remembered the show name or the
title, but it was about a guy, Bendix, at Pearl Harbor in early December,
1941 and he "knew" about the soon to be attack because he had experienced
it before or was from the past or something like that.

The program described above is "The Time Element," a Rod Serling TV play
(aired on "Desilu Playhouse") that served as the first of two pilots of "The
Twilight Zone."

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:07:47 -0400
From: Barth Wysong <stargazerbw@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Bob Juhren

I have just returned from a trip to visit author Robert Juhren.  I had a
delightful time and we spent many pleasant hours talking about OTR.

Bob wrote a few scripts for Suspense and over 3 dozen scripts for Radio
Mystery Theater in the 70's.  He has also done scripts for Heartbeat Theater
in the 60's.

In the course of my meeting he came across two previously unproduced scripts
and commented that he won an award for a Heartbeat Theater script called "No
Matter Where You Live".

He has most of his scripts but few recordings.  I was wondering if anyone
out there has recordings of his Heartbeat Theater shows (I will provide a
list next time I talk to him).

He also has a recording of one of his first shows, done in college at a
local radio station.  The recording is on what looks like a large phonograph
record with a metal backing.  The label is titled WWHG and penciled in the
title "Invitation to Live 4/30/48".  There are checks by the box labeled "33
1/3" and "Start inside".

Bob has no way to play this recording and I was wondering if anyone knows
how to get this show on cassette for him.

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:07:45 -0400
From: "Lois Culver" <lois@[removed];
To: "OTR Digest" <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Hal Stone's comments

Said Hal Stone:

Although I can't speak for the others, I am sure that they would echo my
sentiments, as follows. It's "we" who are lucky to have so many people
interested in OTR, that appreciate our involvement in the medium, (Oh so
long ago), and remain dedicated fans to this day. (We're also lucky to still
be kicking around so we can join in the fun).

Right on, jughead!  And Hal's right -- we'd love to have you join our OTR
Chat Room.  I'll be vacationing in australia the next three weeks, but the
channel will be well taken care of by Charlie (OTR Digest) Summers, and Lou
([removed]) Genco, my right hand men. At least come in and give Hal a bad
time!

Lois Culver

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:40:32 -0400
From: DETBoss@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Bob Hastings

Hal Stone has referred to Bob Hasting on several occasions. Is this the same
Bob Hastings that played on McHale's Navy?

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:05:13 -0400
From: "Stephen A Kallis, Jr." <skallisjr@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Radio Premiums and World War II

Although there have been novelty items before the days of radio premiums,
and although there are pocket novelties after the passage of OTR, radio
premiums were fundamentally in a class of their own.  Many had strong
connections to the shows they were offered on, and though they were made
of brass and/or plastic, many were clever, and showed a lot of
creativity.

Duruing World War II, there were different kinds of premiums.  Because
certain metals, notably copper, were in high demand, meaning that they
were diverted from being used in the manufacture of premiums (early WW II
premiums, like the 1942 Captain Midnight Code-O-Graph, were actually
manufactured in 1941, before the United States' entry into the conflict).
 Thus, many premiums were composed of paper products, including cardboard
and cardstock, and cloth. For instance, the Orphan Annie show, which had
issued "decoders" before the war continued to do so during its remaining
years on radio, but the last two were made of cardstock.  Tom Mix offered
comic books in 1942.

However, some premiums were developed just for the war conditions.  The
paramilitary Secret Squadron of the Captain Midnight show got two items
to help fight the war, at least in the minds of the members.  One was the
Magic Blackout Lite-Ups kit -- a couple of sheets of paper impregnated
with a luminous chemical, wrapped in a largish sheet with information on
insigne of the Civilian Defense organization, ways to use the paper to
help in a blackout, and the like.  The other was the MJC-10 Plane
Spotter, which was an ingenious device composed of cardboard and paper
that could help identify Allied and Axcis aircraft, and determine their
altitude and speed.  The show also offered a shoulder patch of the Secret
Squadron symbol made of cloth.  Terry and The Pirates, in 1942, offered a
Victory Airplane Spotter, a cardboard wheel with silhouettes of friend
and foe aircraft.  The Jack Armstrong issued a Secret Bombsight, cleverly
made of paper, wood, and a mirror.  The Lne Ranger had a blackout kit,
too.

Because the wartime premiums were made out of paper and wood, many of
them perished after the war.  But they were a special part of the time.

Stephen A. Kallis, Jr.

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:05:15 -0400
From: Cnorth6311@[removed]
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Re: Captain Midnight Decoder

I think the decoder Doug is referring to is the one that was used in the
April 1st joke. I would like to have that again myself.

Charlie Northway

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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:38:47 -0400
From: "Ian Grieve" <ian@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Granby's Green Acres

Chad wrote:

I've always been a big fan of the "Green Acres" TV series and was surprised
to learn recently that it was preceeded by a radio program, "Granby's Green
Acres".  Since that time I've been searching all over the web and haven't
been able to find this show on any of the OTR dealer sites.  Can anybody
out there tell me how many episodes of the radio show were produced, and
where I might could find them?  Also if you have any please e-mail me.

I have the link on my home computer Chad if somebody else doesn't provide it
in answer to your question.  Apparently there were 8 episodes, of which 4
are made available on that website.  Unfortunately the website owner has
never replied to my e-mails, nor to others I know who have asked the same
question, How do we find the other 4 episodes?

The shows are funny and you can see where the TV show came from.  There are
some very big differences and some character changes.  One is the farmers
Daughter.

Ian

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:46:59 -0400
From: Ron Tilton <octave@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  William Bendix and Pearl Harbor

In response to both Jim Widner and Jer51473's question: The show in
question is a one hour 1959 "Desilu Playhouse" titled "Time Element" and
was also noteworthy as being the pilot for the "Twilight Zone". It was
broadcast locally (WPIX- Channel 11) on thanksgiving '98 as part of the
"Twilight Zone" marathon.

Best Regards,
Ron Tilton
octave@[removed]

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:46:56 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Son of Son of Calling All Cars

More fills for the "Calling All Cars" Artists roster:

[removed]

[removed]

CAB
--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:46:57 -0400
From: Conrad Binyon <conradab@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  Calling All Cars/Rosenquist

George Wagner asked:

    Wasn't Mr. Rosenquist (NOT "Rosencrans") the
actual, real-life chief radio dispatcher for the Los
Angeles Police?

George, as Mr. Kitzel might say,   "Ummmmm,  could be."  *Grin*
Whatever
his job on the [removed] might have been I'm thinking you're right
on with
his name having 'guist' rather than 'crans' to it.  Such are how
memories dim.

CAB


--
conradab@[removed] (Conrad A. Binyon)
   From the Home of the Stars who loved Ranches and Farms
     Encino, California.

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:08:59 -0400
From: "Harold Zeigler" <hzeigler@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  locating Eli Segal

	Hi everyone,
   I got a phone call from Steve Mauer asking help in locating a Eli Segal
who at one time was a director at East Connecticut State Univ. He wrote a few
books on old time radio and Steve would like to make contact with him.
   E-mail any answers to me at hzeigler@[removed] .
				Thanks,Harold

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:04:03 -0400
From: "Michael Hayde" <mmeajv@[removed];
To: [removed]@[removed]
Subject:  re: William Bendix and Pearl Harbor

Jer51473@[removed] asks if anyone recalls this show:
I never remembered the show name or the title, but it was about a guy,
Bendix, at Pearl Harbor in early December, 1941 and he "knew" about
the soon to be attack because he had experienced it before or was
from the past or something like that. He was trying to warn everyone
and nobody would believe him.

The title is "The Time Element," written by Rod Serling and produced for
"The Desilu Playhouse."  Interestingly, it was written as the pilot for "The
Twilight Zone," but sold to Desilu's anthology series.  The "true" "Twilight
Zone" pilot, "Where is Everybody?" was produced some months later.

Michael J. Hayde

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:58:02 -0400
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Andrews vs. Aldrich

Hello all, but especially Hal Stone.  I have read some of the various
comments on the character of Archie Andrews vs. Henry Aldrich and finally
decided to give Archie a chance.  I have only heard two Archie programs,
both of which I found annoying.  However, I have only found a few Aldrich
programs I liked, but my preference was still Aldrich.  Part of this is
because of the lack of available Archie programs.  Too bad, as Archie is a
fine show once you get used to it's style.

Anyway, I had planned to write in this digest that, while I thought Bob
and Hal were excellent actors, I really prefered Aldrich instead and just
could not stand Archie.  My opinion has changed, and I now see the error
of my ways.  While Aldrich is OK, I really have not liked many of the
programs I have heard.  Both Hal and Bob are excellent, and I would like
to see Bob Hastings himself on this digest.  Let us hear from as many
surviving actors as possible while they are still around.  Anyway, for
anyone who has felt like me and just not given Archie a chance, I
recommend giving it another listen.  No, Hal did not pay me to write this.
While I liked the writing of the Swift series better for some reason, (odd
considering the sustaining shows had the same writer) I liked Ian Martin
better as Mr. Andrews in 1946-47.  By the 1950's, it felt like the show
was going down in quality and did not have much life left.  I have only
heard one program from 1951 though, so I may be misjudging.  Anyway, try
to listen to programs before and during the Swift era if you can.
Unfortunately, I only have one on tape, but a few are available in mp3.  I
have not checked, but I am sure Jerry Haendiges also has them.

I have a question for Hal or anyone else.  Did either Hal or Bob have any
regular parts on radio besides Archie?  In other words, were either of
them regulars on any other shows?  I would like to hear more of both of
hem but am not sure where to look.  Thanks for any answers.

Also, to Hal Stone personally, while this might seem strange to you since
you got paid for your performances and that was it, thanks for being a
good actor.  Even though the quality of a lot of OTR is good in comparison
with television or modern radio, there were still some actors which were
only fair at best or limited in their ability.  I think that you did not
have those limitations and did a good job playing your part.  You are a
pleasure to listen to, as well as Bob Hastings.

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:58:00 -0400
From: "Michael Stein" <MSTEIN@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Dennis Day

Just catching up on digests--and must heartily agree with the comment about
Dennis Day. I listened to two Benny shows while traveling over the weekend,
and found myself looking forward to Dennis' part in the shows. His talents
include an uncanny ability to create characters as well as impersonations. In
the "Jack gives a bum fifty cents" episode, Dennis does a great impersonation
of Ronald Colman.

Michael

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:57:10 -0400
From: hal stone <dualxtwo@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Re:A (Fudd) by any other name

In response to a question from "laurie1125"

Didn't Doc from Fibber McGee +ACY- Molly once placed Mr. Andrews on
Archie Andrews?

I answered, in all innocence,

<SNIP> the "Doc" on Fibber was Arthur Q. Brian, you are
100% correct. He played that part on the show for 13 weeks, <SNIP>
 I was talking on the phone with Bob Hastings today on that very subject. But
I always spelled his last name "O'Brian". Bobby says it was plain "Brian".
Who's
right?

Then, the wise guy webmaster whose initials are Charlie Summers, posted the
following.

[ADMINISTRIVIA: Neither; it's Arthur Q. Bryan. See:

Now I hasten to add the following, Mr."Wise Guy". (Who couldn't e-mail me
personally with the correct spelling before he added my posting to the
Digest. Oh no, he had to show up my stupidity to the whole world. :)
But he did E-mail "personally" after the fact, and giggled uncontrollably.

So before Bob Hastings gets on my case, I go on record to state that he did
not spell it plain old "Brian" in our phone conversation. He just said it.
What the heck. Brian and Bryan sound the same to me. I always trusted
sounds, not my eyesight. (I was on Radio, remember). And I don't have any
research books. I'm sure unlike me, Hastings knew the correct spelling. So
there Charlie! My ex-friend!

Being Irish, I always thought it was "O'Brian". So sue me!

And even though Charlie Summers has informed me that it is considered very
bad form to quote a "Private" e-mail in the Digest (without first getting
permission), I don't give a rats behind in this case. He said, [removed]

   "So you can tell Mr. Hastings that neither one of you oews me a drink
this time. [removed] maybe you both [removed] think about [removed]"

Some guys will do anything for a free drink. By the way. He has the nerve to
criticize my spelling. Look at he way he spelled "owes". Ha :) Gotcha
Charlie!. Paybacks are hell!


[ADMINISTRIVIA: Never mess around with a guy in a [removed]  --cfs3]

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:15:22 -0400
From: Jim Murtaugh <JimM@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Second Bananas

			Hello all!  My all time favorite second banana is
"little Leroy".  I think, even though Walter Tetley was well into his 30's
and still playing a 12 year old, this is a tribute to his talent.  His
timing ion retorts to Uncle Throckmorton is brilliant.  When I listen to one
of the shows, I'm convinced the I'm really listening to a kid.  His talent
also shines on the Phil Harris Alice Faye show.

			Jim Murtaugh

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:34:08 -0400
From: "Vince Long" <vlongbsh@[removed];
To: <[removed]@[removed];
Subject:  Involving the "Next Generation"

Over the years that I've read, and occasionally posted to, this list I've
seen the subject of getting younger listeners involved in the hobby as
collectors, listeners, or whatever.  I thought I'd update the group on my
recent efforts.

I'm a high school technology teacher and, among other things, maintain and
create content for our web server, where I also host my part of my own OTR
site, both of which have been online for over 5 years.  A few months ago I
went to the dress rehearsal for our school's spring play to shoot some video
for the web site and noticed that many of the actors were kids that I had,
or have had, in one or more of my technology classes.  I was surprised to
find a crossover between dramatics and computer geeks so and a week later I
gathered some of them in my room after school and asked if they do anything
with their acting skills outside of school.  It turns out that they write
and perform skits for their own enjoyment and even had a few on video tape.
I quickly suggest that they assemble this content into a television program
that we can run on our community access television station (where I have a
show and am a board member.)

Well, they liked the idea and this pretty much consumes them for the
remainder of the school year.  They end up with one 30-minute program which
they shot on many locations and post-produced in the studio at the TV
station.  So far, they've produced 2 of these shows and a third, a
feature-length take-off on Hamlet, is being filmed now.

OK, I'll get back on topic here.  After their first show was done, they
remarked that it takes LOTS of time to produce just 30-minutes of video.  I
suggested that they look at radio since the costumes, sets, and such are
provided by the listener.  They are intrigued by the idea but most of them
have not listened to any radio drama, comedy, or variety, though a couple
were familiar with NPR's Star Wars and the BBC's Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy.  So, to catch them up, I burned them a few CDs of OTR and encouraged
them to recreate a few of the old shows to get the hang of it, with the goal
being that they would eventually write and perform their own material.

They decided on an episode of The Shadow, found a copy of the script online,
did a few read throughs, and then we recorded it.  The student who is the
ringleader/producer used SoundForge software to edit the audio and add the
sound effects and music.  Their final product was pretty good and they
decided to do another one.  This time they selected a Jack Benny program,
one where Jack has the Coleman's over for dinner.  Since they couldn't find
a script they had to transcribe it from the recording.  Again, we had a
recording session and their audio was mixed with music and the laugh track
from the original show.  They've just recorded their third show, The
Hitchhiker, and said that they have the first draft of their own original
show written.

If anyone is interested in hearing their first two shows, they are on an
unlinked page on our web site and the programs are available in both
RealAudio and MP3.  I've also included pictures of the recording sessions.
The address is:

[removed]

The students were also interviewed on our local NPR station and that
interview is on our site on the same page.

My goal, as a teacher, is to get the students to use technology in creative
ways.  My goal, as an OTR enthusiast, is the get the students the learn
about audio-based drama, comedy, and variety.  Combining our Technology Club
with our new Drama Club looks like a way we might accomplish both goals.

One more thing.  When they were doing their first reading of the Jack Benny
script, they listened to some of the original recording and I noticed that
they did not "get" some of the original jokes.  That might be one of the
reasons OTR doesn't penetrate across the generations.  One of the jokes here
had to do with the tux that Jack was going to wear.  Rochester (who also
took some explaining) said that Jack looked like the master of ceremonies at
Forest Lawn.  Kids here in Billings, Montana didn't have a clue.

Feedback is welcome.

Vince

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